[FADCA] D-Star Status Request
Russell Oder
oderr at bellsouth.net
Mon Nov 13 23:54:30 EST 2006
Gentlemen, I am sorry that Neil has not responded to your request (if he
has, I did not see any correspondence that indicated that he had). I had to
relinquish the position of frequency coordinator as I am now residing in
another state. However, I did not see that anyone was acting in any
official capacity with FADCA.
Here are the frequencies we have for coordination if digital systems in
Florida.
2 Meter:
144 Mhz ..........
144.91, 144.93, 144.95, 144.97, 144.99, 145.01, 145.03, 145.05, 145.07,
145.09
145.51, 145.53, 145.57, 145.59, 145.61, 145.63, 145.65, 145.67, 145.69,
145.71
145.73, 145.75, 145.79
As you can see there are some pairs within these frequencies, i.e. 144.91
and 145.51, 144.93 and 145.53, 144.97 and 145.57,etc. If your equipment
allows you to set them up on offsets other than 600 kHz, you have addition
options.
440:
430.050, *430.150, *430.250, *430.350, *430.450, *430.550, *430.650,
*430.850, 430.950
431.025, 440.975, 441.000, 441.025, 441.050, 441.075, 441.100, 441.150
441.175, 441.200, 445.025, 445.050, 445.100, 445.125, 445.150, 445.175,
445.200
445.250, 445.350, 445.450, 445.550, 446.025, 446.050, 446.075, 446.100,
446.125
446.175, 446.200, *446.250, *446.350, *446.450, *446.550
* Are 100 kHz wide channels for high speed packet
As you can see there are a variety of "pairs" that are 5 megahertz apart or
more. Depending on the ability of your equipment, you should be able to find
"pairs" that will support half duplex, and in some cases, full duplex
communications. I suggest you monitor a select set of "pairs", check the
FRC database and if there are no other stations you can identify that are
operating on the frequencies you have selected to consider, submit an
application for coordination to FADCA
Here are the frequencies that FADCA has to coordinate in the 1.2 mHz band:
.......... 1240 Mhz ..........
1249.000, 1251.000, 1298.000, 1298.050, 1298.100, 1298.150, 1298.200,
1298.250
1298.300, 1298.350, 1298.400, 1298.450, 1298.500, 1298.600, 1298.700,
1298.800
1298.900
Here are the frequencies for digital the FRC has on their web page (with
their mispellings) and since they are not responding to your request for
coordination, I suggest you take the initiative and determine the "pairs"
that will be useable by your equipment:
23 Centimeter Band Plan
Frequency Usage
1240.000 - 1246.000 ATV #1
1246.000 - 1248.000 FM Narrowband Links and Digital
1248.000 - 1252.000 ATV #2
1249.000 Digital/Packet, 2 mhz bandwidth channel
1251.000 Digital/Packet, 2 mhz bandwidth channel
1258.000 - 1260.000 FM Narrowband Links and Digital
1260.000 - 1270.000 Satellite Uplinks, Experimental and Simplex ATV
1270.000 - 1276.000 FM Rrepeater Inputs
1276.000 - 1282.000 ATV #3
1282.000 - 1288.000 FM Rrepeater Outputs
1288.000 - 1294.000 Wideband Experimental and Simplex ATV
1294.025 - 1294.175 Digital/Packet, 26 khz bandwidth channel
1294.100 Digital/Packet Calling Frequency
1294.200 - 1295.000 FM Simplex (narrowband)
1294.500 FM Simplex Calling Frequency
1295.000 - 1297.000 Weak Signal (no FM)
1295.000 - 1295.800 STV, FAX, ACSB Experimental
1295.800 - 1296.000 EME and CW
1296.000 - 1296.050 EME Only
1296.070 - 1296.080 CW Beacons
1296.100 CW/SSB Calling Frequency
1296.400 - 1296.600 Crossband Linear Translator Output
1296.800 - 1297.000 Experimental Beacons
1297.000 - 1300.000 Digital/Packet
1298.000 Digital/Packet, 2 mhz bandwidth channel
1299.050 - 1299.950 Digital/Packet, 100 khz bandwidth channel
If they are unresponsive (and it appears they have been) I suggest that you
research the frequencies with the bandwidth you need that you can use with
your equipment, monitor those frequencies and submit a notarized affidavit
of intent to operate on the pair that you select with a copy of the
documents you have submitted to them along with any proof of the dates you
submitted them, and a notice to the FRC that their continued failure to
respond to your repeated submission for coordination of a digital repeater
has resulted on your declaration of intent to operate a repeater on
frequencies within the frequencies authorized for amateur communication in
the band.
If you know a lawyer you can consult with regard to serving the FRC with the
notice that can help you word it so that you are putting them on legal
notice that would may end up being helpful at some later date.
Remember, they are a coordinating body, not an authorizing body. If they
fail to respond to you (as apparently they have repeatedly) they have lost
the ability to act in a coordinating capacity and they can not defend any
challenge to your use.
Russell Oder N4KOX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Hast" <wchast at gmail.com>
To: "Florida Amateur Digital Communication Association"
<fadca at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FADCA] D-Star Status Request
> On 11/13/06, James Lindley <kg4raw at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> We have 1.2 GHZ ,440 Mhz and 2M modules, I asked the FRC About D-Star
>> they said file with the FADCA. So sounds like we are back to the start.
>>
> On 1.2Ghz I see no problem, up until a few years ago we had some freq
> pairs on 440, but those got taken to put more legacy repeaters on that
> band.
> Now we need the back and of course that is probably not going to happen,
> Where are you located perhaps you can monitor one of them and see what
> it is doing, of course in some parts of the state the pairs we lost have
> not
> been used yet, but if you are in South FL I think that they are gone.
> Some
> of them I have listened to did not really sound amateur in operation, but
> I
> guess anymore you can get away with about anything.
>
> 2m, FADCA has really never had pairs for data on that spectrum, so you
> will have to go to FRC for that. The spectrum we have is as follows
> 144.91, 144,93, 144.95, 144,97, 144.99, 145.01, 145.03, 145.05 145.07
> and 145.09. We may be able to pair one of them with a freq 600 Khz up.
> But that is where we are.
>
> What are are you planning to install the system?
>
>
> --
> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> To paraphrase my flight instructor;
> "the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my going
> out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn
> and twisted metal."
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