[FADCA] Anyone want to take exception to this?

[Bill Sinbine]

At 04:20 PM 7/11/2005, you wrote:
>Chuck Hast wrote:
> >"Therein lies the strength of it, in a disaster there are not enough
>licensed
> >hams to go around, we have been too busy fighting over 30 to 90 year old
> >technologies instead of keeping up with the times....
>
>Chuck...
>
>I must take exception with your comment.  There are more than enough
>licensed Amateur Radio operators in Florida, nearly 40,000 of them at last
>count.

How many of these 40.000 are HAMS and haw many just hold a licence???


>  The real problem is one of LEADERSHIP.

ANYONE can be a leader they just have to find something they want to 
lead...Look at Chuck and Charlie. I would say that they are LEADERS 
in getting Linux fpac going and right now I'm one of the followers!!! 
No one asked them to do it they just WANTED to and they are making it 
happen. Guess what, NO politics involved except for what they come up with.

>  The bickering and infighting
>that has been allowed to permeat the Amateur Radio landscape is the real
>limiting factor.  Too many are now on the sidelines because they are now
>willing to work around those who put their egos first!

So you start your own niche group and make whatever you want happen 
and put them to work. Then when it takes off you can be the leader.

>  The 30 to 90 year
>old technology would have been replaced a long time ago if we weren't having
>to constantly work around the politics and ineptness.

And who is going to do it Paul?
There are only a handful of people that are really doing anything.
Look at packet. We are still using the original programs that haven't 
been updated in 10+ years. Know any code writers? I have a job for 
them. No politics just here is the source code from FBB, AA4RE and 
FPAC. How about updating it to do what we need. THEY can make the 
politics on it since they are doing the work.
I've been trying to get this done for YEARS....Guess what NO takers.



>Successful volunteerism requires lots and lots of teamwork.  That teamwork
>doesn't just happen.  It takes a lot of focus and hard work.  It takes
>effective Project Management based on needs, goals and objectives.  That
>means listening to the potential clients, having a full understanding of
>what it is they want and need and then building it.

Well this is yes and no....In this day and age it is more of a "build 
it and they will come" attitude.
I also remember at one of the meetings we had in Tampa that someone 
said they had a tall site that we could put a fpac switch on and they 
would work on it and it never happened. I don't remember who it 
was... This was just a few years ago. In this case we DO have the 
leadership in FADCA to do it but "The People" that said they would 
work on getting the switch up are still as you put it "sitting on the 
sidelines" and the leadership is still waiting for them to say lets do it..

This is why we have been plugging away with building our network here 
in Florida. We have never stopped. There are only a very small few 
out of that 40,000 that you talk about that are doing anything with 
it. We don't need to use the excuses that we have no leadership or 
this and that.. We are just doing it. And you know what, a lot of 
people are looking at what FADCA was and is doing around the country.


>Yes, there are technology issues to be addressed.  But without some basic,
>fundamental leadership changes, the people needed to build and operate any
>technology are going to continue to sit on the sidelines.  What a waste!

PLEASE let me know who is sitting on the sidelines just waiting to go 
to work with amateur radio and I'll put them to work....
I have NO problem with things that need to be done. We have holes all 
over the state that need to be plugged. We need a site around Sebring 
and Lake Placid that we need sites installed to get the east/west 
link back on line..
Send me the names of all these people that are sitting with a head 
full of knowledge  just waiting to be taxed!!!!!

I think that you are just making excuses for why things aren't getting done.

I'll get off the soapbox now!



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73, Bill Sinbine
n4xeo at bellsouth.net