[FADCA] Re: Work on telpac for Linux

Wed Nov 3 06:24:38 EST 2004

Rick's note was from last year and I did not see any more posts about it
since then.

Your observations, Chuck, are good.

Maybe Rick will see these posts and let us know the status of his resource.
It seems to me there needs to be some collaberative work between those of
you who are involved in bringing the Linux system into the solution.

Russ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Hast" <wchast at gmail.com>
To: "highlandfl" <oderr at bellsouth.net>; "Rick Muething"
<rmuething at cfl.rr.com>
Cc: "FADCA" <fadca at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 PM
Subject: [FADCA] Re: Work on telpac for Linux

> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:44:51 -0000, highlandfl <oderr at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In telpac-paclink at yahoogroups.com, "Rick Muething"
> > <rmuething at c...> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > We have a bright young user that is helping to translate telpac to
> > Linux.
> > He is Kit Haskins KA0WUC. Kit is in the early stages of testing the
> > initial
> > prototypes and will be looking for some alpha testers in the next
> > few weeks.
> > I think his initial version will be supporting only Kantronics TNCs.
> > Anyone
> > with Linux experience or access to a Linux machine that might be
> > interested
> > in testing please contact me.   I will get more details later.
> >
>
> Russ,
> he does not need to do ANY KISS implementation it is already done
> and in the Linux kernel!! And there are headers to handle all forms of
> it. It is used with TNC-2 type machines, AEA boxes, Kantronics boxes,
> If he wants specifics he sets it up for CRC kiss, I have a set up file for
> BPQKISS which is what Kanronics is using.
>
>
> Tell him to go and get the following CD and install it, as this is the
quickest
> way to get the AX25 stuff up and running.
>
> http://www.afu-knoppix.de/
>
> Also he needs to read the AX25 How To.
>
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/AX25-HOWTO/
>
> There is ABSOLUTLY no reason for him to wast his time doing KISS.
> What distro is he using? All he needs to do is install the AX25 stuff and
> the rest of it is all there, he just needs to add his application as one
of
> the apps that can be accessed from the stack. In the Ax25 docs and other
> docs there are descriptions of how to do that.
>
> I am sure that there is a lot of other work that needs to be done rather
than
> re-doing the AX25 piece. It is very stable and can talk to anything in the
> Linux machine if you set up your connections to the apps correctly.
>
> He should get on Linux Hams if he is not already on there.
> linux-hams at vger.kernel.org
> There is also a german fellow that has been doing the same thing, they
> ought to exchange information as the german fellow already has his
> talking to the AX25 stack, it just is not "pretty" As you have noticed I
have
> not said anything about the Ip side, that is a given as everything in
Linux
> talks to the Ip side of the house.
>
> Here is a copy of his message. He also is asking for help, looks like he
> has the radio piece working, he needs it "gussied up" and all of the
> user interface stuff put in it. I think it would be best to join forces
and get
> the whole thing done right rather than have two of them being worked on.
>
> Remember, unlike Windows, AX25 is integrated into the OS, all you do
> is add what you need i.e. apps (BBS, APRS, Info Servers, file servers
> and other services) Network (IP, FPAC, NetRom, roll your own) so you
> do not need to write anything but the app, and link it to the AX25 and
> IP parts. The AX25 part will be used to link it to the FPAC/Nr/FLEX
network
> stuff. So you can concentrate on building the toys and not have to worrry
> so much about the pipes, of course you do want to keep in mind that
> these AX25 pipes are more like 1/4 inch hose so you do not want apps
> that are too bulky, hold on to that for a bit, and give us time to give
you
> bigger pipes.
>
> Here is Hans message, I am hoping that they are already working
> together on this as it is a shame to have two people going down the
> same road and not sharing the load.
>
>  >
>  >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004
>  >From: "Hans-Juergen Barthen" <dl5di at gmx.de>
>  >Subject: TelPac Node/LinuX
> >
> >I have written a small "TelPac-node" which runs on my LinuX server and
uses
> >it's ax25-kernel and ax25d capabilities.
> >
> >This small and simple piece of software can not be compared to the nice
> >TelPac-Node for windows from Rick KN6KB.  It is just a small tool and not
a
> >real application with a GUI.
>  >
>  >It is based on the standard ax25-tool "tcp_call" which most
> > LinuX-users may
>  >know who have ax25 installed.
>  >
>  >I made this tool binary transparent and included the server-logon,
>  >client-connect text, some logging, error handling and statistics.
>  >
>  >The node is started like ax25_call, tcp_call and all other tools of the
>  >package from ax25d.
>  >
>  >The TelPac-node has no user interface and only a very small config file
>  >with just the node call and the connect text.
>  >
>  >It is running for test with the nodecall db0lj-2, attached via
>  >ethernet/axip to the digipeater db0lj which you can reach from the
German
>  >flexnet network as well as in the worldwide TNN network.
>  >
>  >The node connects to Rick's Winlink2000 server kn6kb.
>  >
>  >Our tests during last weeks were very positiv, we had no problems caused
by
>  >this TelPac node. The telnet port of the Winlink2000 server is an easy
>  >interface.  With the latest Airmail2000 beta release 3.1.952 TelPac
works
>  >absolute fine, with  .351 we had some errors mainly caused by
>  >missconfiguration of our PTC2s causing "proposal errors".
>  >
>  >The logfile of the telpac node can be accessed at our webpage and shows
the
>  >callsigns, login- and logout-time, transmitted and received bytes and
the
>  >average transferrates (this is for test users, some nicer design will
follow).
>  >
>  >The telpac node is tested on SuSE LinuX 9.1 using it's ax25libs and
>  >ax25-tools-0.0.8.  I did not have the time yet to write any nice
>  >documentation, automatic installscripts, autoconfig and automake, so at
the
>  >moment it has to be installed manually and probably needs some
adjustments.
>  >
>  >Easiest way is to just unpack the archiv as a new directory into the
source
>  >tree of the ax25-tools parallel to 'user_call'.
>  >
>  >The tgz includes a README.1st with the installation instructions and a
>  >sample configfile.
>  >
>  >I will provide a better documented and more comfortable version as soon
as
>  >I have some more time and have tested everything.
>  >
>  >Maybe somebody can help with the makefile/configure/automake to get it
>  >installed easier and also on different platforms and LinuX
distributions, I
>  >am no specialist on that tools.
>  >
>  >You can download the current prelimenary version at
>  >http://db0lj.dyndns.org/pub/dl5di-soft/telpac-node.08a.tgz
>  >
>  >Please let me know any experiences when running the node or when using
it.
>  >
>  >73 de Hans, DL5DI
>  >
>  >SysOp @DB0LJ, DB0QT, DA5UDI
>  >
>  >AX-BBS: dl5di at db0lj.deu.eu
>  >Amprnet/Internet: dl5di at db0lj.ampr.org
>  >Internet: dl5di at darc.de
>  >
>  >Homepage der Packet-Radio-Group-Mittelrhein e.V.
>  >HamWeb: http://db0lj.ampr.org
>  >Internet: http://www.db0lj.de
>  >
>
> -- 
> Chuck Hast
> To paraphrase my flight instructor;
> "the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my going
> out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn
> and twisted metal."
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