[FADCA] LAN and BBS in Ft. Myers/Lee County
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Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:58:56 -0500
There is a list of BBSs if you select to sort the list by type of device.
http://fadca.org/fadcadat/index.html is the url to the index. Click on BBS
and those devices that are BBSs will pop up.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: [FADCA] LAN and BBS in Ft. Myers/Lee County
> Go to the FADCA website, and more specifically to this
> address
> http://www.fadca.org/map/index.html
>
> This map will show you all of the switch sites.
> There is not a BBS list as I recall, but most of
> the switch sites (FPAC devices) have one or more
> BBS associated with them and are even set up as
> speed call connects (you connect to a specific
> ssid of the switch and it routes you to the BBS
> associated with that switch.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2004 15:01
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FADCA] LAN and BBS in Ft. Myers/Lee County
>
> HI,
>
> PLEASE CHECK THE SIGNAL ON W4LX-2 NODE TO SEE IF THE SIGNAL IS CLEAN NOW.
> THERE WAS A GROUND WIRE COMPLETELY DETACHED ON THE OLD CABLES. THE
> PERSONNEL AT THE EOC MOVED THE EQUIPMENT AND DID NOT TURN ON ALL OF IT.
> WE HAD TO MOVE ITEMS TO RELIEVE STRAIN ON CABLES.
>
> I HOPE THAT THE SIGNAL ON 441 IS NOW SATISFACTORY.
>
> COULD W9VDS PLEASE CONTACT ME SO I MAY KNOW HOW BEST TO USE HIS DIGI?
>
> IS THERE A LIST OF BBS/NODES FOR FLORIDA? MY LIST IS 10 YEARS OLD AND
> SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE DEAD OR DEAD TO RADIO. THE TWO LISTED FOR FORT
> MYERS HAVE BEEN GONE SO LONG THAT I HAVE NEVER MET EITHER OF THEM.
>
> THE DRAMA CONTINUES!
>
> 73,
> TOM, KF4UTH
>
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:11:55 -0500 "John H. Green" <[email protected]>
> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Boy, this is a busy day for the reflector!!
> > Tom, kf4uth, The Palm Beach Packet Group has offered several times
> > in
> > the past years to help set up a fpac switch in Ft. Meyers. We still
> > have the offer open. We were talking to Ed, n9awp, about all this.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just for info, the Ft Meyers bbs used to be aa4re, the same as I run
> > here.
> >
> >
> >
> > The La Belle digi was installed last year to bridge the gap from
> > Clewiston to Ft Meyers. It is nothing but a radio and a tnc set to
> > act
> > as a digi. The call is w9vds-8. Eventually we plan to install a full
> > fpac switch, time is the essential element. Unfortunately, it has
> > not
> > worked as well as we would like. The problem lies not in the digi,
> > but
> > in the w4lx-2. When we were over there at a hamfest several years
> > ago
> > we visited the eoc and discovered that the radios are separate from
> > the
> > pc. There was and still is a 120 hz hum on the 441 signal and it has
> > gotten worse - to the point where we can't get any info from w4lx-2
> > ( I
> > just tried).
> >
> >
> >
> > So probably the first thing is to clean up the signal so it is
> > useable.
> >
> >
> > If you decide to setup a fpac switch let me know and I will prepare
> > an
> > install package that will make it easier..
> >
> > If you make it to Orlando stop by the trailer and we can discuss
> > more..
> > We will be out in the swap area somewhere.
> >
> > If not we can meet in Clewiston and have a get together. Frank,
> > wa4pam,
> > heads the ec operations there and would be someone you might want to
> > meet.
> >
> > 73 John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > bud thompson wrote:
> >
> >
> > NOTE: I've moved this thread to the FADCA e-mail reflector as (1)
> > there are
> > folks there more familiar with the lay of the land in the SW part of
> > the
> > state and (2) getting a LAN and BBS up and running should be of
> > general
> > interest and there may be some help within the group.
> >
> > Deltona
> > Sunday Feb 8 1750E
> > NOTE: Not certain- I may have sent this one earlier this AM! It's
> > hell
> > getting old!
> >
> > TOM: KF4UTH... Here are some response to your note below - hope it
> > helps.
> >
> > I assume "DRSEY" is a DRSI two-port ISA TNC card with one port
> > inoperable
> > and one port working 1200b packet on the UHF frequency to KF4HFR .
> > Is the
> > inoperable DRSI port a TNC or an RS-232 port?
> >
> > Is the computer running MS DOS and therefore FBBDOS?
> >
> > Is the link to KF4HFR in Charlotte to a ROSE or FPAC switch, or to a
> > BPQ
> > node?
> >
> > There is no generic problem with KPC3+ TNCs not staying in KISS
> > mode.
> > However, this can be caused by an old internal battery and temporary
> > power
> > failures.
> >
> > 'FBB' is the BBS program, not something you 'keep on the BBS'
> >
> > Basics...
> >
> > The assumption we start with is there are two or more packet users
> > in the
> > local ham community, and that once a packet LAN is set up interest
> > will
> > grow. Users on the LAN want to be able to send and receive messages
> > over
> > long distances using the network or to pass messages locally for fun
> > or in
> > preparation for emergencies. They may also want to do keyboard
> > 'chat' with
> > each other locally or over longer distances with users on other
> > LANs. In
> > the case of NTS support there must be one or more local packet users
> > who are
> > familiar with NTS nets and procedures and who will generally
> > baby-sit the
> > LAN for NTS traffic.
> >
> > A quick basic review: A switch (FPAC in this case) simply supports
> > automatically passing packets from one radio port to another radio
> > port.
> > FPAC does not permanently store messages for later transfer. A BBS
> > takes
> > messages in, stores them on disk, and later sends them off to where
> > they
> > should go by a routing scheme based on how the messages have been
> > addressed
> > by the sender.
> >
> > Typically an FPAC switch has a 2M Local Area Network (LAN) that
> > local packet
> > stations use to access the network and to work each other. Antennas
> > at
> > switches are generally more highly elevated than packet stations at
> > hams
> > houses, so the LAN helps locals work each other much as a repeater
> > does on
> > voice. Users access the switch through the 2M LAN to get to the
> > local
> > community BBS which not all packet users can reach directly, or to
> > have
> > keyboard QSOs with other stations on the LAN or on the network
> > through the
> > FPAC switch function (which is automatic).
> >
> > Typically a local community BBS is located at the sysop's house/QTH.
> > That
> > way the sysop can keep it configured and running w/o making trips to
> > a
> > remote site where the switch may be located. Where possible, and
> > the BBS
> > has been configured and is stable, BBS may be located at the switch
> > site,
> > but with FPAC switches, the BBS must be in a separate computer from
> > the FPAC
> > computer. This is called a co-located BBS.
> >
> > All local users access the BBS and the FPAC switch from home or
> > elsewhere.
> > No need to physically go to the switch or the BBS just to use the
> > system.
> > Typically, all an NTS users needs to do is post the NTS message to
> > the BBS
> > and all else is automatic. When an NTS message comes in from
> > out-of-area,
> > it appears on the BBS and the locals read it and deliver/relay it.
> >
> > Keeping in mind I don't know the lay of the land there - here is an
> > idea for
> > Ft. Myers/Lee County. Two Major steps - you already have the
> > gear...
> >
> > 1. Use the current computer (DOS?) at the EOC to run FPAC switch
> > software.
> > (This will require someone from the outside to give you some help to
> > set
> > up - but it may not come from very far away). This computer and all
> > the
> > gear you have now will be at the EOC- the switch site. Once working
> > right,
> > no one need to go to the site unless something breaks.
> >
> > This FPAC switch will use the existing 2M radio on the LAN for your
> > local
> > users (right now on 145.03 I believe).
> > This FPAC switch will use the existing UHF radio either to Charlotte
> > or
> > LaBell to link to the Florida Layered Packet Network
> > This FPAC switch will support a 220 packet port to another network
> > link if
> > desired/when available. (TNCs are almost free these days.)
> >
> > This will put Lee County on the Florida Layered Packet network, and
> > greatly
> > extend the overall network coverage into a highly populated area.
> >
> > Even though you may not have anyone locally there who has had enough
> > packet
> > experience to manage the FPAC switch that is no problem. Once set
> > up, the
> > switch can be managed/configured remotely over the network. Right
> > now
> > needed changes to the Melbourne switch are being made from W. Palm
> > Beach.. I
> > expect that WB4MOZ in W. Palm might take care of the Ft. Myers
> > switch
> > remotely until someone there learns how.
> >
> > 2. Now you need a LAN BBS available so users can send, store, and
> > receive
> > messages. If you have someone locally who is reasonably familiar
> > with
> > packet and computers he/she can learn about how to manage an FBB BBS
> > (Windows or DOS) or any FBB-compatible BBS software that they want
> > to use.
> > Actually once configured for local operations, the BBS can be
> > managed
> > remotely by someone at a distance over the radio network, or even
> > over the
> > telephone or internet. (At the sysop's house there would be a phone
> > line or
> > internet connection.) I can guarantee you that after a year, the
> > sysop will
> > know all needed to know and will no longer need the remote help.)
> >
> > If there is no one there who wants to take on the sysop job for the
> > BBS,
> > then local Lee County packet users can simply use the closest BBS on
> > the
> > network! (This would likely be the BBS in W. Palm Beach). The
> > drawback to
> > this is that if the network goes down, then Lee County doesn't have
> > a BBS
> > during an emergency. Likewise if the W. Palm Beach BBS goes down.)
> >
> > NOTE: There may be a concern using the DRSI card and the KAM+ on the
> > FPAC
> > switch. These are details we'll have to check that out. Do not let
> > this
> > dissuade you from considering the above as the solution is to
> > replace those
> > TNCs with more generic TNCs (used MFJS, etc,) which are super cheap.
> > Trades
> > might be made- in fact, the KPC3+ could be used by the sysop of the
> > FBB BBS
> > at home and the DRSI card could also be used by an FBB BBS at home.
> > (Slightly harder to configure, but we have folks who can do all
> > that.)
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > bud N0IA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 01:22
> > Subject: Re: [FADCA] Re: BBSs on Layered Network
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BUD,
> >
> > ON W4LX/-2 WE HAVE RADIOS FOR 2 METERS, 220, AND 440.
> > THERE IS A DIRSEY CARD (ONLY ONE PORT STILL WORKING) ON THE 441 AND
> > A
> > KAM3+ ON THE 2 METERS. (WE WISH TO REPLACE THE KAM AS IT WILL NOT
> > HOLD
> > KISS, A COMMONLY DOCUMENTED FAULT. A PROBLEM WITH MEMORY
> > MANAGEMENT.)
> >
> > THERE IS NO 220 USE AS WE DO NOT HAVE A PORT ON THE COMPUTER AND WE
> > HAVE
> > NOT OBTAINED A TNC.
> > THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ANYONE WHO DESIRES TO USE 220.
> >
> > THE 441 IS USED FOR THE 'BACKBONE' RADIO AND FOR SYSOP USE.
> > WE ARE RUNNING BPQ FOR INTERBBS TRANSFERS.
> >
> > FBB IS THE SYSTEM USED NOW, BUT NONE OF THE LOCAL OPS SEEM TO LIKE
> > IT.
> > IT IS NOT A MATTER OF EDUCATION, JUST FBB IS NOT SOMETHING THEY WISH
> > KEPT
> > ON THE BBS.
> >
> > OUR ANTENNAS ARE ON THE TOWER AT THE EOC.
> >
> > WE ARE CONNECTED TO KF4HFR IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY FOR MESSAGE TRANSFER.
> >
> > DOESN'T THIS CONSTITUTE A LAN?
> > WHAT MORE IS NEEDED TO BE AN FPAC SWITCH?
> > WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE LINE WHICH COULD BE USED FOR
> > TELENET.
> >
> > THERE IS NO LOCAL CLUB THAT WOULD SPONSOR PACKET ACTIVITIES.
> >
> > WE HAVE THE ONLY TOWER LOCATION WITH RELIABLE EMERGENCY POWER OF
> > WHICH I
> > AM AWARE LOCALLY.
> > THERE IS NO CHANCE OF GETTING A SPOT ON THE CHANNEL 20 TOWER WHERE
> > OUR
> > NEW VOICE REPEATER IS LOCATED. THE REPEATER CLUB HAS THE OTHER
> > LOCAL
> > SITES OCCUPIED.
> >
> > I HAD NEVER BEEN ADVISED THAT THERE WAS ANY PACKET ACTIVITY IN
> > LABELLE.
> > WHAT ARE THE FREQ AND THE CALLSIGN? I HAVE BEEN USING THE FORT
> > MYERS
> > BBS/NODE FOR THE LAST FIVE+ YEARS. AT NO TIME HAS THERE BEEN ANY
> > CONTACT
> > WITH LABELLE OF WHICH I AM AWARE.
> >
> > NOW THAT I HAVE FINISHED MY THREE YEARS AS CLUB PRESIDENT, I WILL
> > HAVE
> > MORE TIME TO DEVOTE TO OTHER RADIO ACTIVITIES, LIKE PACKET.
> >
> > I HAVE ASKED SOME OF THE LOCAL OPERATORS TO MAKE A LIST OF DESIRED
> > FEATURES AND ITEMS NOT WANTED IN OUR NEW SOFTWARE. THIS SHOULD BE
> > DISCUSSED SOON.
> >
> > PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE CONTACT ME ABOUT THE LABELLE INSTALLATION AS A
> > GROUP
> > OF US WOULD LIKE TO VISIT IT AND LEARN WHAT WE CAN TO HELP KEEP OUR
> > BBS/NODE UP AND RUNNING. WE ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING WHAT WE CAN
> > ABOUT
> > FBB AT THAT TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TRAINED
> > ASSISTANT/REPLACEMENT
> > ON BOARD AS WE NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHEN.
> >
> > IS THAT THE SAME DIRECTOR WHO WAS GONE FOR A WHILE? IS HE BACK?
> > PERHAPS
> > HE COULD CALL ME AND BE OF HELP, ALSO.
> >
> > THIS IS A THUMBNAIL SKETCH OF THE LOCAL INSTALLATION.
> >
> > 73,
> > TOM, KF4UTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
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