[FADCA] Older 16/32bit Windows BBS / MBO software no longer supported

Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:25:08 -0400

Comments below...

On Saturday 29 June 2002 10:51 L, you wrote:
> Deltona, FL
> Saturday June 29 1010EST
>
> cc by Ham Radio: W0RLI, KN6KB, W0RLI, N8PGR, KE6RK, N3PPC
>
> DOS FBB, WINFBB16, WINFBB32, and Classic Winlink are no longer
> being actively supported by the authors/development teams. WL2K
> is not, nor was intended, to be an "upgrade" to Classic Winlink,
> therefore does not offer all the full-featured BBS/MBO functions
> we need.
>
> FBBLINUX and some serious in-depth work being done by W0RLI are
> the only actively supported systematic BBS/MBO software I know
> of.  W0RLI doesn't yet support the multi-port PTC-II data controllers
> which is a must as we go into the 21st Century.  If Hank had the
> loan of two PTC-IIs for several months, he would probably welcome
> the opportunity to add the SCS controller to his arsenal.
>
> One of the problems, THE MAJOR problem, is that few of us want
> to learn yet another OS (LINUX or any other).. no matter how good
> the proponents' claims. That said, the quickest solution may be
> for a real LINUX guru to provide us with an FBBLINUX install set
> that we can use plug-'n-play while learning LINUX.  Many of us
> would move to that if we could do it initially blindly, then learn
> enough LINUX along the way to keep it running!

If FBB is being built into one of the installers such as the one Red
Hat uses (RPM's) then it is really about as near as you can get
to being what you asked for. The OS is now pretty much stick in
cd's and run. I just installed a RH 7.3 yesterday and the only thing
I did was tell it about the network since I did not do DHCP, beyond
that it went a bit smoother than the Win2k installs (I did 6 of those,
two NT and one 98 yesterday also) and MUCH smoother than the
NT and 98 installs. Once you get familiar with the OS you can do
such neat tricks as a headless box that just moves messages
and which you access from another box elsewhere... I will see if
I can look into this one (if I can just get some time again) and
see what we can do about it.

>
> Perhaps Hans N8PGR would release source code for Classic Winlink
> so some interested programmer(s) could take it over.  However,
> that might be a step in promoting status quo, if not backwards.
>
> I  have a lot of respect and hope for the AirMail software (e-mail
> client), but it may need significant work to bring it into a
> full-featured BBS/MBO program as we have all known it.  I have
> planted some seeds with Jim Coreman KE6RK, the author, but have
> not approached him with anything definite yet as I've not yet
> learned enough about the program.  That said, I have termed AirMail
> as  the "Great White Hope" for early 21st century BBS/MBO software.
>  With Jim's help, it could "do it all" as a DOSFBB, WINFBB or
> Classic Winlink update.  It will presently run HF PacTOR on almost
> any TNC2 clone, MFJs, PK232, Kantronics KAMs, and the SCS series
> of PTC- controllers. It has internet port support.  It does not at this
> time support packet mode nor "conventional" addressing/routing to the
> extent needed for Classic BBS/MBO mode. (Jim, I hope I've not misstated
> that information - I still have a lot of investigation to make with
> AirMail.)
>
> As always - looking for some hope.
> 73,
> bud N0IA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "n4xeo" <[email protected]>
> To: "bud Thompson" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [fbb] Re: fbb digest, Vol 1 #729 - 1 msg
>
> > At 07:56 AM 6/29/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Deltona, FL
> > >Saturday June 29 0755EST
> > >
> > >Does this mean that support for WinFBB 16/32 has gone away?
> > >
> > >bud N0IA
> >
> > The way I see it bud is that all their energy went into working on the
> > Lenux version.
> > When was the last time you saw a release for win15 other than a small bug
> > fix? When are we going to see a FULL version of win32 that works out of
>
> the
>
> > install? I gave up on working on getting win32 to work... I have better
> > things to do with the time. I relies that linux is a better operating
> > program, but I don't have the time to learn it...so that leaves that
>
> out...
>
> > 73, Bill N4XEO
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <[email protected]>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 6:12 AM
> > >Subject: fbb digest, Vol 1 #729 - 1 msg
> > >
> > >
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > >   1. Re: WINFBB AND WINDOWS XP (n4xeo)
> > > >
> > > > --__--__--
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 00:22:44 +0000
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > From: n4xeo <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [fbb] WINFBB AND WINDOWS XP
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone been able to get winfbb16 to run on windows XP using a
> > > > kiss driver like tfkiss or anything else? I can get fbb installed
> > > > without
>
> any
>
> > > > problems, but I'm using bpq as a simple kiss driver to the serial
> > > > port
> > >
> > >that
> > >
> > > > connects to my FPAC computer. This is where and why I need to use a
>
> kiss
>
> > > > driver.  Does anyone know of any updated win kiss drivers out there?
> > > >
> > > > I gave up on trying to get Win32 running....It is a shame that the
>
> support
>
> > > > for it has for the most part gone away!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73, Bill N4XEO
> > >
> > ><snip>
>
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