[FADCA] FW: SEDAN LINK

Sun, 31 Mar 2002 19:33:10 -0500

My second reply

Chuck Hast
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Hast, Chuck 
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:37
> To:	'Gary  Sessums '
> Subject:	RE: SEDAN LINK
> 
> Gary, I understand your position, as soon as I get home I will
> send you the pertinent information, but rather than get in the
> middle of this one I would like for you to talk to others who
> have been trying to get the FADCA network into the state EOC and
> who have been meeting with resistance to this move. I do not want
> to get into another protocol war (I went through enough of that
> back years ago) but I also do not like to see a really weak system
> being promoted over others, in this case there have been attempts
> to extend the FADCA network into the state EOC but it has not
> happened, and rather than be a hearsayer, I would rather that you
> talk to those who have been attempting to get the link into the
> EOC. I have no problem with APRS, FADCA, or SEDAN or all of them
> terminating a circuit into the EOC, but I do have a problem with
> one group being allowed to terminate in the EOC to the detriment
> others, each one of which probably brings good and bad points to
> the table, but I do not want to go any more into this because it
> becomes a 3rd party report, and you need to talk to first level
> information sources. Perhaps if you can help this might be the way
> to get this resolved. We have the whole east coast linked with FADCA
> switches, and are working to get the west side done, we have paths
> across the state. The big problem is that the North tier of the
> state has traditionally been more GA oriented than FL oriented,
> and Buck Rogers had great power over the path the GA network took
> SEDAN is a result of his work and totally rejects common sense 
> networking concepts, i.e. you can only get so many stations on a
> single channel. There are other technical issues also at play here,
> I would rather get into a meeting with all of you at Hooters and
> go over this in depth. My position is a will not go back 10 years
> to technology that is totally surpased by better technology that
> can get the job done, and is deployed throughout the rest of the
> state just because of political issues. This is in truth not a 
> techical issue, it is a political issue. I do not care to go any
> deeper here, I will do so in person with you.
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary  Sessums
> To: Chuck Hast KP4DJT; George Jones W4AQR; Mike Fletcher AD4HV; Gary
> Sessums KC5QCN; Ken Salhoff
> Sent: 3/25/02 5:44 PM
> Subject: RE: SEDAN LINK
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> I appreciate your comments. As the new RACES Officer/ARES Emergency 
> Coordinator for Hillsborough County, I am trying to improve voice and 
> digital communications at the local EOC. I am charged with providing
> backup 
> communications both for both local and statewide coverage. It makes no 
> difference to me as to how it works or what type method, just that it
> works.
> 
> John Fleming, who runs ESF-2 communications for the Florida Department
> of 
> Emergency Management at the EOC in Tallahassee recommends SEDAN be 
> installed in all of Florida's 67 county EOCs as backup amateur 
> communications to the state's ESATCOM system.
> At present, SEDAN is the only amateur digital mode installed at the
> state 
> EOC. Voice HF, VHF, and UHF amateur communications are also available in
> 
> the State EOC.
> 
> Far from being the expert in this area, I defer to you and other's
> opinions 
> in this matter. If the FADCA packet network is "better" than the SEDAN 
> packet network, than I am all for it. I just need some help getting a 
> working packet network installed in the Hillsborough County EOC that
> will 
> allow communications between the Tampa EOC and the Tallahassee EOC.
> 
> I suggest that FADCA convince Mr. Fleming that it's network is better
> than 
> the flat SEDAN network and that the FADCA system should be installed in
> the 
> state EOC in Tallahassee.
> 
> I look forward to meeting with you and the others on your return to
> Tampa 
> to discuss this and the other digital agenda items.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> At 04:37 PM 3/25/2002 -0500,  Chuck Hast wrote:
> <snip>
> 
> >Why don't we get the packet network back up and running rather than
> >introduce something that has such limitations as to be almost useless
> >for anything other than very short messaging.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >Please think and get on the FADCA list and talk to some of the people
> >who have had to deal with SEDAN BEFORE you get mixed in with it.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> 
> >As far as getting to the EOC we have people in FADCA who are working
> >at the state and county level looking at getting a IP link into the
> >EOC.
> 
> 
> 
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