From mrpjf150 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  4 11:46:29 2019
From: mrpjf150 at gmail.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 11:46:29 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] DMR on the 220
Message-ID: <CAE+kjPdZ+M=XS3JxQZBC_fLtakecknne9bX8VPjtQApW0xhAMQ@mail.gmail.com>

    Hey all

   As I said at the meeting,I was able to bridge from Allstar to DMR using
the MMDVM which is working very well.

    Just thought I would throw it out there on the K2ETS 220 repeater which
it's on right now.

     I am careful not to conflict with any of the Talk groups on the DMR
repeater in Martinsville.

     The talk group that's on the system here is NYC metro..TG 31362..NOT
TG 31360 Tri State

     This link up will only be on a temporary trial basis to see if
anyone's interested in this new technology.Im.not trying to sell DMR to
anyone,just some exposure.

     Comments welcome.

Pete
KD2ARB

From mrpjf150 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  4 14:26:44 2019
From: mrpjf150 at gmail.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 14:26:44 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] DMR on the 220
In-Reply-To: <9632AED7-4A5C-4CC9-9BDD-5597E7F664D0@aol.com>
References: <CAE+kjPdZ+M=XS3JxQZBC_fLtakecknne9bX8VPjtQApW0xhAMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9632AED7-4A5C-4CC9-9BDD-5597E7F664D0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAE+kjPeWrhp5RsVeDr72cjvKM_SWPP+K25A4OVkAQqf2SU3Dxw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris

   Apparently someone disconnected the 220 repeater..Not going to extend
myself anymore

     Be well
     Pete

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 13:28 CHRISTOPHER FINE <crfine at aol.com> wrote:

> Sorry I missed the meeting! Sounds interesting.  See you soon.
>
> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Pete Fierro <mrpjf150 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >    Hey all
> >
> >   As I said at the meeting,I was able to bridge from Allstar to DMR using
> > the MMDVM which is working very well.
> >
> >    Just thought I would throw it out there on the K2ETS 220 repeater
> which
> > it's on right now.
> >
> >     I am careful not to conflict with any of the Talk groups on the DMR
> > repeater in Martinsville.
> >
> >     The talk group that's on the system here is NYC metro..TG 31362..NOT
> > TG 31360 Tri State
> >
> >     This link up will only be on a temporary trial basis to see if
> > anyone's interested in this new technology.Im.not trying to sell DMR to
> > anyone,just some exposure.
> >
> >     Comments welcome.
> >
> > Pete
> > KD2ARB
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From mrpjf150 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 11 14:27:09 2019
From: mrpjf150 at gmail.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:27:09 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] ARRL News...
Message-ID: <CAE+kjPdPVtSf2YFhxRdO+EAFWa_n_Zh6P-PPGpqdP0-GepeQzA@mail.gmail.com>

     Hi all

    Some of you have inquired about the ARRL news.The ARRL news hasn't
aired the last few Mondays because I migrated all my CRON scripts that do
the connecting from my repeater to my hub.Need to investigate why there are
no connections.


     The RVRC hamfest is this Saturday.Lets rally behind our sister club &
support them with a large member attendance.The weather is supposed to be
fantastic,a good time will be had by all.Great friends,lots of gear for
sale,it's all good.

73
Pete
KD2ARB

From unclefofo at comcast.net  Tue Jun 11 14:44:54 2019
From: unclefofo at comcast.net (David Vadney)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:44:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] MAMFEAST
Message-ID: <376173168.633052.1560278695732@connect.xfinity.com>

Good Day Everyone

          As everyone knows the  Hamfeast is this Saturday in Piscataway Me and Dan will be there at 7 am to start 

setting up. I was talking to the weather Lords and put my request in for nice weather they texted me back and said

the temperature will be comfortable and no signs of showers. So hope the see everyone there. A quick reminder 

the ETS monthly net will be tomorrow Wednesday at 8 pm please check in. 


Thank You Dave W2OIL

From vpennetta at pennetta.com  Tue Jun 11 15:59:44 2019
From: vpennetta at pennetta.com (Victor Pennetta)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:59:44 +0000
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] HAMFEAST
Message-ID: <763ea01eedea4e9d926510183df57f53@pennetta.com>

Club members,

As Dave stated it looks like it is going to be a perfect weather day for the RVRC hamfest .  Just a reminder that ETS will again have club tables at the hamfest.  We have done this the last few years to help raise funds by selling equipment and gear that was donated to ETS throughout the year .  If any member who is going to the hamfest has any equipment (no junk) that they would like to donate to the club or would like to sell it and split some of the profit with the club, please contact Dave, Dan or myself before Saturday.

If you have any equipment that you would like to donate to the club or sell it and split some of the profit with the club but are not going to the hamfest, please contact one of us ASAP as there MAY be the possibility of us making some kind of arrangement to pick up the item(s).  We certainly do not want to turn down anything that can help bring extra moneys to the club but the time and effort to do a pick up would really depend on what the item(s) are, where they are located and the time available.

I will be selling  so I will also be there at 7:00 am as.  Looking forward to seeing everyone there.

73,
Victor, K2NBC
President, ETS of NJ




-----Original Message-----
From: etslist-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:etslist-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Vadney
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 2:45 PM
To: etslist
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] MAMFEAST

Good Day Everyone

          As everyone knows the  Hamfeast is this Saturday in Piscataway Me and Dan will be there at 7 am to start 

setting up. I was talking to the weather Lords and put my request in for nice weather they texted me back and said

the temperature will be comfortable and no signs of showers. So hope the see everyone there. A quick reminder 

the ETS monthly net will be tomorrow Wednesday at 8 pm please check in. 


Thank You Dave W2OIL
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From vpennetta at pennetta.com  Wed Jun 12 11:09:40 2019
From: vpennetta at pennetta.com (Victor Pennetta)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:09:40 +0000
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] Reserving Spots for RVRC Hamfest
Message-ID: <f70a8b386aea4a3799424b8258751d13@pennetta.com>

ETS members,

Per my previous email ETS will have two parking spots for our club tables at the RCRC hamfest this Saturday. I am selling so I will have my own spot.  If anyone else is selling and would like their own spot in the same row as ETS and myself, please let me know right away so that I can reserve adjoining spots with RVRC.

73,
Victor, K2NBC



From vpennetta at pennetta.com  Wed Jun 12 12:09:39 2019
From: vpennetta at pennetta.com (Victor Pennetta)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:09:39 +0000
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] A Question Has come Up About Spots at the RVRC
	Hamfest
Message-ID: <d1dd884eeece4838a42971efe21e1c16@pennetta.com>

To answer a question that has come.  The club tables are available to any member that has item(s) that you want to sell or want to donate some or all of the proceeds from the sale to the club.  If you have a table full of gear that you are selling for yourself, than you need to reserve your own spot.  You need to contact me ASAP if you would like to be selling in the same row as the ETS club tables.

Any questions - just email me.

73,
Victor, K2NBC





From w2oudrew at gmail.com  Sat Jun 15 23:47:17 2019
From: w2oudrew at gmail.com (E Drew Moore)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:47:17 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] Images from today's W2QW Hamfest ...
References: <ACB7CE48-7971-4277-8CFF-2FED46896B9B@jimroselli.com>
Message-ID: <CF226672-50C7-485E-975D-317762424301@gmail.com>



*sent from my ,iPhone 7+-forgive typos*

Begin forwarded message:

From: JIMMY ROSELLI <jim at jimroselli.com>
Date: June 15, 2019 
Subject: Images from today's W2QW Hamfest ...

Hello again.

Below is a link that anyone can use to download the images from todays Hamfest..

https://spaces.hightail.com/receive/WUxBUTJSnx

Please share with everyone.

Note that this download link expires on Sept 30, 2019.

Let me know if you need other files sizes.

73?s, N2GMA
Jim Roselli
jim at jimroselli.com
908-334-0197



From mrpjf150 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 21 17:30:32 2019
From: mrpjf150 at gmail.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 17:30:32 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] NWS KWO-35....
Message-ID: <CAE+kjPeC0_Pkvx1dLcBv_T2YSkB9Ti==ixhJ-zbj3SYaTCHMgw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

     Looks like the NY NWS station will be back on the air at long last


https://nwschat.weather.gov/p.php?pid=201906121909-KOKX-NOUS41-PNSOKX

Pete
KD2ARB

From lengriff at optimum.net  Tue Jun 25 09:29:53 2019
From: lengriff at optimum.net (Len Griffin)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:29:53 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] TRUNKING PRESENTATION INFO
Message-ID: <000801d52b5a$12e81bb0$38b85310$@optimum.net>

BELOW IS A LINK TO THE TRUNKING PRESENTATION HANDOUT

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkzKDWlKFx6FhBkb-vMcWtgu9kFm

 

LEN

WB2HKK


From lengriff at optimum.net  Tue Jun 25 11:18:28 2019
From: lengriff at optimum.net (Len Griffin)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:18:28 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] Presentation at The June 2019 MEETING
Message-ID: <000a01d52b69$3df207d0$b9d61770$@optimum.net>

On June 28, I will be giving a presentation on Trunking radio systems and
scanners.

 

If time permits, I will have my BCD996P2 scanner to demo, as well as an
RTL-SDR dongle running OP25 software.

 

I sent a previous e-mail with a link to a handout document that has many
links to the subject. I'll have some printed out at the meeting.

 

Len

WB2HKK


From w2ljqrp at gmail.com  Thu Jun 27 20:21:43 2019
From: w2ljqrp at gmail.com (Larry Makoski)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:21:43 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] ETS of NJ Minutes May 2019
Message-ID: <CALaVG9doM=o2r4XwsVVrkUepOUUN-_RPWNwoF=bOGXwgNgoUHw@mail.gmail.com>

Minutes for the Meeting on May 31st, 2019
Electronic Technology Society of New Jersey (ETS of NJ)

The Meeting was called to order by  President Vic Pennetta, K2NBC at 8:13
PM.  This was followed by the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance and then
by self-introductions of all those in attendance. We had three guests ?
Frank DeFina KB3DNG, Bob Haack N2AV, Sandeep  Puskuru KC2WXV

Meeting Minutes
Minutes for the April meeting were successfully emailed. A motion was made
by W2OIL and seconded by KC2YRC to accept them.

Treasurer?s Report
Treasurer?s report as given by Dan KC2YRC.
Opening Balance - $7022.95
Income -   50/50s - $55 (100% donation by K2NBC), Coffee Kitty - $7,Dues -
$90
Deposit - 152.00
Disbursements -  $14.00 Bank Service Fee , $322 Mercer Consumer
(insurance), $75 Picnic reimbursement K2NBC, $71.80 Picnic reimbursement
W2OIL, $132.10 Website Fee KC2YRC
Closing Balance - $ 6560.05 ?  so we are $916.53 ?ahead? compared  to last
year.
A motion was made by W2LJ and seconded by N2JUN to accept the Treasurer's
Report. This was approved by the membership.

Correspondence
Sussex Hamfest flyer, OMARC Hamfest flyer, KC2PI and WN2RJR sent their
regrets about being unable to attend.

Technical Report
Repeaters are working OK. The WIN SYS Tech Net will be broadcast. KD2ARB is
looking into the software to connect All Star to DMR.


Picnic Committee ? Save the date -  August 26th

Old Business ? Next Wednesday night net will be on June 12th. A brief
account was given regarding the SPARC Special Event on May 4th in Putnam
Park.

New Business ? Field Day is June 22/23. The W2QW Hamfest is coming up June
15.
Rich KB2LLM played the Pete Smith ?Radio Hams? feature from the 1930s.
Health and Welfare
Drew W2OU is back in attendence.

Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 PM

50/50 ? Won by Don K2DSV ? $34.

Respectfully Submitted,
Larry W2LJ

In Attendance
Drew W2OU Rich W2PQ Mike N2JUN Pete KD2ARB George W2VFW Bill K2WLR Don
K2DSV Chris KD2PMP John KD2IKS Rich KB2LLM Len WB2HKK Mark WA2ZJZ, Warren
KB2UHZ Larry W2LJ Dan KC2YRC Dave W2OIL Vic K2NBC Bill W2WK

From w2ljqrp at gmail.com  Fri Jun 28 07:51:35 2019
From: w2ljqrp at gmail.com (Larry Makoski)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 07:51:35 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] Correction to the May Minutes
Message-ID: <CALaVG9eRxSrgNM-zM4MgpjnRB7qLr-w1USwS2EdPeLz3ZxSTXw@mail.gmail.com>

Picnic Committee ? Save the date -  August 25th  and NOT the 26th as I had
typo'ed last night. If you come on the 26th, I doubt there'd be many people
at the park on a Monday morning.

Thanks to "Eagle Eye" Dave W2OIL for catching this!

Larry W2LJ

From vpennetta at pennetta.com  Fri Jun 28 16:58:33 2019
From: vpennetta at pennetta.com (Victor Pennetta)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 20:58:33 +0000
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] Presentation at The June 2019 MEETING
Message-ID: <2775157341ef4a2889514898ab75f838@pennetta.com>

Fellow ETS members,

Just a last minute reminder that Len, WB2HKK will be giving a presentation on trunking radio systems and scanners.  If time permits, he will have his BCD996P2 scanner to demo, as well as an RTL-SDR dongle running OP25 software.  This should be a very informative and interesting presentation for everyone.  As you know Len's presentations are always top notch.  We will try to have a quick formal meeting and then Let Len have the floor.  So looking forward to seeing everyone tonight at 8:00 pm. 

73,
Victor, K2NBC
President, ETS of NJ



From lengriff at optimum.net  Sun Jun 30 10:59:16 2019
From: lengriff at optimum.net (Len Griffin)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:59:16 -0400
Subject: [ETS/PARC List] P25 Trunking Followup Notes
Message-ID: <001301d52f54$6313fbb0$293bf310$@optimum.net>

Hope everyone enjoyed the presentation as I enjoyed researching it.

 

Here are some points I may have forgotten:

 

1] The scanner will be listening to ' SYSTEMS ' that have MANY subscribers.
If you allow it to SCAN all the systems you have programmed, it will take a
LONG time to return to the current conversation. It is best to stay on ONE
system and let it scan the talkgroups on a single system. Remember, it takes
time to find and lock onto the control channel, so if you are scanning
SYSTEMS, transmissions may not be complete.

 

2] The Trunked SYSTEMS use mainly directional antennas. You have to be in
the antennas pattern to hear them. Most have multiple sites, so it is
usually not a problem. Lots of the die hard scanner people have put up
multiple directional antennas, and use combiners fed by hardline to feed
their scanner. Too much for me!

 

3] At RadioReference, there is a terrific discussion at the top of the '
FORUMS ' page about the NJICS system, started in July 2017. It has new info
added every day. This system is still evolving, with new users joining the
system. Note that many counties have their own trunked system, as well as
access to NJICS.

forums.radioreference.com

 

4] The NJICS has 538 talkgroups, as you saw. Not ALL of them will be on a
given tower at the same time. I was reading a radio reference NJICS
discussion this morning, and came across this great explanation:

 

The most important variable is that the NJICS system is comprised of many
individual standalone sites, along with a few simulcast cells. ASTRO 25
(Motorola P25) systems are by nature designed to default towards conserving
channel resources. If a standalone site only has a limited pool of 3-4
channels (one of which is a full-time control channel), then you want to
make sure you're not wasting channels by having talkgroups broadcasting at
that site that aren't required by the users in the area. In that respect,
the system is designed to only carry talkgroup traffic when a radio
registered at the site is affiliated with said talkgroup(s).

Of course there are always exceptions to the basic rules, and in this case,
the exception is that the system administrators can "force" any talkgroup
they want to be carried at any site(s) they want, regardless of whether any
radios are affiliated with those talkgroups at said sites. There are some
examples of those talkgroups on the NJICS which seem to be carried at every
site 24/7 no matter what, DEP Park Police Dispatch seemingly being one of
them.

As far as the SmartX converters are concerned, they simply allow for the
matching talkgroups to be linked together on both systems. The link is
bidirectional, so that no matter which system a radio is operating on, the
audio will be heard on the same talkgroup on the other system. The caveat is
as noted above, that at least one radio must be affiliated with that
talkgroup at one or more sites on the other system, or the talkgroups must
be forced by the system admins to be carried regardless of affiliation
status. If neither of those criteria are met, then the talkgroup will remain
active on only one system. The default setting is "on-demand", so to speak.

That's why often the NJSP talkgroups come and go across various sites on the
NJICS system. If a 700 MHz radio happens to affiliate with 2-COMM in
northwest Sussex County, it will cause the 2-COMM talkgroup to be carried on
High Point. If that radio roams south, it will eventually find a stronger
signal from the Walpack site, at which point two things will happen: #1 the
radio will deregister from High Point, causing the 2-COMM talkgroup to stop
being carried at that site (assuming no other radios are affiliated with
that talkgroup at that site), and #2 the radio will register on Walpack and
will cause the 2-COMM talkgroup to follow it to that site.

The same holds true for talkgroups that are primarily on the NJICS system
now. Even if there is a matching counterpart on the 800 system (DRJTBC
talkgroups, for example), they will only be heard if #1 a radio is
affiliated with one of the 800 MHz simulcast cells, or #2 they are being
forced to be carried on the 800 MHz even in the absence of any radios
actually registered on 800 MHz and affiliated with one of those talkgroups.

Oh and finally, talkgroups can actually be restricted by site. Newark Fire
talkgroups, for example, are only permitted on certain sites. A radio that
tries to affiliate with one of those talkgroups on High Point in Sussex
County is going to be denied affiliation. This is also to preserve channel
resources. Other talkgroups are permitted at any site throughout the state.

Basically, there is quite a bit of flexibility in how these systems operate,
and therefore the answer is wholly dependent on how the systems and
individual talkgroups are setup.

 

LEN

WB2HKK