[ETSList] ETS please consider helping
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I second the motion to send a good donation.
Don K2DSV
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:10:40 -0500 "Ronald Loneker Sr. KA2BZS"
<[email protected]> writes:
> This is K3TKJ Al Waller, who donates his space to the Amateur radio
> public
> FREE...he sponsers our website and also this etslist...maybe we can
> get
> Al W2KOG to send a 'nice donation' to help keep the ball rolling..
> Thanks de Ron
>
>
>
> Subject: Help K3TKJ Keep QTH.NET Going
>
> I saw the following on another qth.net reflector:
>
> Today has not been a good day for me. I am totally bummed out.
>
> Other than the technical things with the servers, much of my time
> is
> spent
> trying to find creative ways to finance what we do and not make it
> commercial. I usually remind our users in the late Fall of
> donations
> and
> during this time of the year I have 2 "Platinum" sponsors that I
> contact.
> These 2 account for about a third of our yearly expenses. Today I
> made
> the
> calls and both are not able to help us any longer, I can understand
> this.
> The economy is flat and who knows when it will get rolling again.
>
> We are in trouble....
>
> This means we are $10K short for the year at the start, but it gets
> worse.
> I can't put any more money into this than I already do, to do so
> would
> not
> be fair to my family. The only place I see this being made up is
> from
> the
> users with a great deal of effort on our part. If every user gave
> us a
> dime
> we could operate for 18 months or so, If every user sent us $1.00
> we
> could
> operate for the next 20 years. What actually happens is about 600
> users/clubs donate an average of $10 each and we never hear from
> the
> rest.
> I'm not ungrateful for the donations don't get me wrong but it is
> the
> same
> users year after year and that will cease too, I'm afraid. With no
> help
>
> we
> will be in deep dodo by Fall.
>
> I don't want to sound like a TV evangelist always begging but I
> guess
> maybe
> that's what it takes.
>
> I need you to be aware of the financial needs of the system and to
> remind
> your users as frequent as you see fit that we depend on them to do
> their
>
> part so that you and I can do our part. Please don't go off yelling
> the
>
> sky
> is falling and/or posting this mail to your lists, but sometime in
> the
> near
> future state our case and ask for user help.
>
> The majority of the expenses monthly are for Internet access, this
> access
> is
> only affordable in 2-3 year contracts. We have one now that is $12K
> a
> year
> for 3 years. That T1 is at about 105% and is getting so slow it is
> unusable
> at times. We have another broadband circuit due to be installed
> Friday
> morning, this one will be $6K a year for 3 years. This will solve
> the
> bandwidth congestion but adding the $600 a month to the $833 a month
> we
> won't be getting from above and suddenly we are $18K in the red
> this
> year.
>
> To give you an idea of how much bandwidth it takes to run all this,
> imagine
> the next time you download a program or something from the net and
> the
> little box says your speed was 194KB (a 56K modem would be about 5K)
> Our
>
> output is 194KB 24/7 it drops off the peg for just a few hours after
> the
>
> US
> goes to bed...Our incoming is a paltry 50KB 24/7....
>
> If you have any other ideas how to support us I am listening.
>
> As always thanks for your help, Al
>
> To help with a donation, go to; http://www.qsl.net/donations.html
> Send this message to any qth.net reflectors you subscribe to for
> posting
>
> if
> you haven't seen it posted there yet.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ron Loneker Sr. KA2BZS
> http://www.cwforever.com
> NJDXA - #1DXCC - 160m DXCC
> JUST SEND IT!....
>
>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D5><STRONG><EM>I second the motion to send=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D5><STRONG><EM><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3D"French =
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<DIV>On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:10:40 -0500 "Ronald Loneker Sr. KA2BZS" <<A=
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href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>> writes:<BR>> This =
is=20
K3TKJ Al Waller, who donates his space to the Amateur radio<BR>>=20
public<BR>> FREE...he sponsers our website and also this etslist...maybe=
we=20
can <BR>> get<BR>> Al W2KOG to send a 'nice donation' to help keep =
the=20
ball rolling..<BR>> Thanks de Ron<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
Subject:=20
Help K3TKJ Keep QTH.NET Going<BR>> <BR>> I saw the following on =
another=20
qth.net reflector:<BR>> <BR>> Today has not been a good day for me.&=
nbsp;=20
I am totally bummed out.<BR>> <BR>> Other than the technical things =
with=20
the servers, much of my time <BR>> is<BR>> spent<BR>> trying to =
find=20
creative ways to finance what we do and not make it<BR>> commercial.&=
nbsp; I=20
usually remind our users in the late Fall of <BR>> donations<BR>>=20
and<BR>> during this time of the year I have 2 "Platinum" sponsors that=
=20
I<BR>> contact.<BR>> These 2 account for about a third of our yearly=
=20
expenses. Today I <BR>> made<BR>> the<BR>> calls and both =
are not=20
able to help us any longer, I can understand<BR>> this.<BR>> The =
economy=20
is flat and who knows when it will get rolling again.<BR>> <BR>> We =
are in=20
trouble....<BR>> <BR>> This means we are $10K short for the year at =
the=20
start, but it gets<BR>> worse.<BR>> I can't put any more money into =
this=20
than I already do, to do so <BR>> would<BR>> not<BR>> be fair to =
my=20
family. The only place I see this being made up is <BR>> from<BR>&=
gt;=20
the<BR>> users with a great deal of effort on our part. If every =
user=20
gave <BR>> us a<BR>> dime<BR>> we could operate for 18 months or =
so, If=20
every user sent us $1.00 <BR>> we<BR>> could<BR>> operate for the =
next=20
20 years. What actually happens is about 600<BR>> users/clubs =
donate an=20
average of $10 each and we never hear from <BR>> the<BR>> rest.<BR>&=
gt;=20
I'm not ungrateful for the donations don't get me wrong but it is <BR>>=
=20
the<BR>> same<BR>> users year after year and that will cease too, I'm=
=20
afraid. With no <BR>> help<BR>> <BR>> we<BR>> will be in =
deep=20
dodo by Fall.<BR>> <BR>> I don't want to sound like a TV evangelist =
always=20
begging but I <BR>> guess<BR>> maybe<BR>> that's what it takes.<BR=
>>=20
<BR>> I need you to be aware of the financial needs of the system and=20
to<BR>> remind<BR>> your users as frequent as you see fit that we =
depend=20
on them to do <BR>> their<BR>> <BR>> part so that you and I can do=
our=20
part. Please don't go off yelling <BR>> the<BR>> <BR>>=20
sky<BR>> is falling and/or posting this mail to your lists, but sometime=
in=20
<BR>> the<BR>> near<BR>> future state our case and ask for user=20
help.<BR>> <BR>> The majority of the expenses monthly are for =
Internet=20
access, this<BR>> access<BR>> is<BR>> only affordable in 2-3 year=
=20
contracts. We have one now that is $12K <BR>> a<BR>> year<BR>&=
gt;=20
for 3 years. That T1 is at about 105% and is getting so slow it is<BR=
>>=20
unusable<BR>> at times. We have another broadband circuit due to =
be=20
installed <BR>> Friday<BR>> morning, this one will be $6K a year for =
3=20
years. This will solve <BR>> the<BR>> bandwidth congestion but=
=20
adding the $600 a month to the $833 a month <BR>> we<BR>> won't be =
getting=20
from above and suddenly we are $18K in the red <BR>> this<BR>>=20
year.<BR>> <BR>> To give you an idea of how much bandwidth it takes =
to run=20
all this,<BR>> imagine<BR>> the next time you download a program or=20
something from the net and <BR>> the<BR>> little box says your speed =
was=20
194KB (a 56K modem would be about 5K) <BR>> Our<BR>> <BR>> output =
is=20
194KB 24/7 it drops off the peg for just a few hours after <BR>> the<BR>=
>=20
<BR>> US<BR>> goes to bed...Our incoming is a paltry 50KB 24/7....<BR=
>>=20
<BR>> If you have any other ideas how to support us I am listening.<BR>&=
gt;=20
<BR>> As always thanks for your help, Al<BR>> <BR>> To help with a=
=20
donation, go to; <A=20
href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/donations.html">http://www.qsl.net/donations.=
html</A><BR>>=20
Send this message to any qth.net reflectors you subscribe to for <BR>>=20
posting<BR>> <BR>> if<BR>> you haven't seen it posted there=20
yet.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> Ron Loneker=20
Sr. KA2BZS<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.cwforever.com">http://www.cwforever.com</A><BR>> =
NJDXA -=20
#1DXCC - 160m DXCC<BR>> JUST SEND IT!....<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20
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