[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 269, Issue 8
Andrew Lenton
a at lenton.org
Tue Sep 8 14:48:26 EDT 2026
Hi,
I have heard this argument many timed although the ERP rises, the power does not. So if you have a 1Watt transmitter, even with a gain of 30dB, it is still 1 Watt, which your body can absorbed, it is just over a smaller area, and UHF wavelength is 1 metre to 30 CMs, so still a large area of body.
Now when you get to millimetric bands, the eyes is subseptable as it has a poor blood supply and can not cool the area, is so not look into waveguides. Or dishes.
Stay out of fields of 50V to 100V per meter. Or more
KR
Andrew
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1. Tower Climber RF Safety (Kurt Pawlikowski)
2. Re: Tower Climber RF Safety (Jim Brown)
3. Re: Tower Climber RF Safety (Wes)
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 15:44:30 -0500
From: Kurt Pawlikowski <kurtt at pinrod.com>
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Subject: [Elecraft] Tower Climber RF Safety
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Hi!
? ? I thought some of you might find this of interest. It applies
directly to Cell Tower climbers and RF safety, but might be a cautionary
tale for RF exposure for us (and maybe someone nearby our antenna!). Not
*exactly* amateur related.
? ? kurtt WB9FMC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNvQo6JPO54
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 14:26:41 -0700
From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tower Climber RF Safety
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On 9/7/2026 1:44 PM, Kurt Pawlikowski via Elecraft wrote:
The nature of UHF antennas is VERY different from those we use at HF.
They have very high gain, concentrating their energy in a narrow beam in
the horizontal plane, and which can focus a LOT of RF power into the
body of a climber who is in front of them. Much less below them,
although that can still be a lot if there are enough transmitters at the
site for the combined energy is great.
It's pretty hard to have significant RF exposure unless we're running
high power into an antenna that's very close to us (like a few yards).
73, Jim K9YC
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 21:36:58 -0700
From: Wes <wes_n7ws at triconet.org>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tower Climber RF Safety
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Before my electronics career with Hughes Aircraft I worked for a time in the
automotive machine shop my dad managed.? Having an interest in VHF radio and
access to a machine shop, I built several high power 144 MHz amps both for
myself and a number of other local hams.? After moving to Hughes, I worked for a
time on TOW Missile and then moved on to the Phoenix Missile program. For folks
who haven't watched the Top Gun movies, (you really should) Phoenix and the F-14
were a marriage.
Phoenix had a feature called MOAT (Missile on Aircraft Test) wherein after (six)
missiles were loaded onto F-14s a quick functional test was performed on the
flight deck to verify that the system was ready to shoot. before launching the
aircraft. When F-14s were deployed on the Enterprise aircraft carrier there
started to be a lot of MOAT failures, necessitating the aircraft returning to
the hanger deck, the missile being downloaded and retested on an onboard test
set, where the failures couldn't be duplicated.
Someone a lot smarter than I hypothesized that the SCANFAR Radar system
(https://grokipedia.com/page/SCANFAR) was upsetting the MOAT.? The ERP of the
system was about 1.5 MW at about 225 MHz. The Phoenix Program Manager didn't
believe in calculating or simulating anything, he wanted lab testing.? With my
VHF background I was tasked with designing and building an amplifier that would
take the output of an HP-608 generator and develop 300+ watts to be used into a
10 dB Yagi pointed at a test missile, in a lab setting.? This was calculated to
be equivalent to the RF levels impinging on the missile on the flight deck.? I
agreed to build the amp but told them in no uncertain terms I didn't want to be
anywhere near this when testing.? All I could think of was all of those sailors
on the flight deck getting lit up by that radar.
Wes? N7WS
? ps.? I'm as old as Jim and all is this is from failing memory so I can't be
held to any of it :-)
On 9/7/2026 2:26 PM, Jim Brown via Elecraft wrote:
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