[Elecraft] Ladder line changes when wet (was KAT500...)

Bob McGraw rmcgraw at benlomand.net
Mon Jul 21 12:55:11 EDT 2025


I agree, window line changes when wet.  But my measurements indicate it 
is the velocity factor that changes.  Thus the electrical length of the 
line changes from dry to wet, etc.  In a 100 ft length of new window 
line, from dry to wet and then with a wetting agent, with the line 
correctly terminated into its characteristic impedance, the loss 
measurement or changes were almost not perceivable.   ( Less than 0.1 
dB, 2 - 30 MHz).

In the case of the original G5RV, the design specified 34 ft of OPEN 
WIRE line as a matching section on 20M.  The open wire line is much much 
less affected by water, rain, ice, snow and dirt.  It is specifically 
1/2 electrical wavelength on 20M.  If one uses window line, as in my 
tests, the electrical length will change from dry to wet, due to VF 
change, and thus the matching section of the line will no longer be 
electrically correct.   Thus the ATU must be adjusted to account for the 
change in electrical length.  So if you are using window line, one 
should expect the ATU to be required to change values as the weather 
changes.

Also with the G5RV, there is a 1:1 balun at the point where the balanced 
line transitions to coax.  Again researching the original documentation 
for the G5RV, the coax line should be 75 ohm coax.  The feed point of 
the G5RV is ~ 90 ohms +/-j0.

73

Bob, K4TAX

REF:  G5RV_w5rh.pdf


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