[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 252, Issue 23
Mike Mickelson
mickelson at denison.edu
Tue Apr 29 17:43:08 EDT 2025
I've had an XG3 since I purchased an Elecraft K3 and KPA500 in 2011... It
gets used often, and I would not part with it even if someone offered
several times the current price. Happy K4D owner.
Mike KD8DZ
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> 1. K3S interface problem with KPA500/KAT500 (Terry Conboy)
> 2. Re: K3S interface problem with KPA500/KAT500 (Jack Brindle)
> 3. Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack keeps
> asking for (Wayne Burdick)
> 4. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Alan Bloom)
> 5. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Bill Johnson)
> 6. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Dave (NK7Z))
> 7. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Lyle Johnson)
> 8. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Dave New, N8SBE)
> 9. reintroducing the Elecraft XG3 (ebasilier at cox.net)
> 10. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Bill Johnson)
> 11. Re: Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for (Walter Underwood)
> 12. Re: reintroducing the Elecraft XG3 (Clay Autery)
> 13. Re: reintroducing the Elecraft XG3 (Wayne Burdick)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 10:20:12 -0700
> From: Terry Conboy <n6ry at arrl.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S interface problem with KPA500/KAT500
> Message-ID: <2449349F-739D-4A4F-A4B3-D1280C8967CF at arrl.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> I bought the 500 pair last fall and connected them to my K3S (2017
> vintage) with the official Elecraft cables (which I've checked for correct
> pin connections and no shorts). All three units are at current software
> versions. The issue I have is that if I change bands on the K3S, nothing
> happens with the tuner or amp. However, when I change bands on the KPA500,
> the K3S follows as expected.
>
> I have the internal tuner in the K3S (disabled when using the 500 pair).
> I set the CONFIG: KAT3 for KAT500Y.
>
> Of course, the tuner and amp detect the TX output and switch quickly, but
> I?d like to have the tuner follow the K3S for WSPR receive.
>
> I?ve corresponded with the customer service crew at Elecraft, but no help
> so far. Anyone have any ideas about Config settings or anything else to
> check?
>
> Thanks,
> Terry N6RY
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 12:58:00 -0500
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com>
> To: Terry Conboy <n6ry at arrl.net>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S interface problem with KPA500/KAT500
> Message-ID: <C3D76CF5-FAA7-4B75-BB90-BBFD706B5770 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Make sure that you have RADIO = K3 in the KPA500 menu. I suspect you do
> since you indicate the K3 is following the KPA500 when you press one of the
> band buttons on the KPA. In the KPA, RADIO must be set to either K3 or BCD
> for it to follow the K3 BAND signals. If it is set to K3, then the KPA will
> send information to the K3 when something happens.
>
> The KAT listens for communications from the K3 on the Aux I/O data bas,
> and should be changing its selector bins based on the frequency the K3
> sends it.
>
> This all makes me suspect that something is wrong with the K3?s AUX I/O
> port. You can (carefully) look at the voltages on the AUX cables to make
> sure the BAND signals are changing as they should. If not, then the issue
> is in the K3.
>
> My suggestion is to check things out one at a time. Connect the KPA500
> directly to the K3 using the proper cable (this one should have pins cut at
> one end). You should be able to get that going without transmitting - when
> the K3 changes bands, the KPA should follow. This is completely due to
> changes in the K3?s BAND signals. Once that works, then add the KAT500 to
> the system. Remember, the KAT connects between the K3 and the KPA so that
> it can disable the PTT going to the KPA when the KAT needs to tune.
>
> These may seem like very simple steps, but they should isolate the problem
> and get us closer to a working system.
> Let me know how your tests go.
>
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> > On Apr 28, 2025, at 12:20?PM, Terry Conboy <n6ry at arrl.net> wrote:
> >
> > I bought the 500 pair last fall and connected them to my K3S (2017
> vintage) with the official Elecraft cables (which I've checked for correct
> pin connections and no shorts). All three units are at current software
> versions. The issue I have is that if I change bands on the K3S, nothing
> happens with the tuner or amp. However, when I change bands on the KPA500,
> the K3S follows as expected.
> >
> > I have the internal tuner in the K3S (disabled when using the 500
> pair). I set the CONFIG: KAT3 for KAT500Y.
> >
> > Of course, the tuner and amp detect the TX output and switch quickly,
> but I?d like to have the tuner follow the K3S for WSPR receive.
> >
> > I?ve corresponded with the customer service crew at Elecraft, but no
> help so far. Anyone have any ideas about Config settings or anything else
> to check?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Terry N6RY
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 12:14:47 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your
> shack keeps asking for
> Message-ID:
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>
> [Breaking News: Eric will interrupt his Hamvention prep to autograph
> your XG3 manual if you order this week. Just sayin'....]
>
> Remember the XG3? It's our deck-of-cards-sized, versatile and highly
> stable all-band signal source. I tried to compare its weight to my
> HP8647A and nearly broke my postal scale. (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V
> battery included. The HP sig gen warps nearby spacetime.)
>
> "I need one! (why?)"
>
> Because the XG3 puts out a clean, synthesized carrier that simplifies
> all sorts of receiver work, like filter alignment, MDS testing, and
> signal tracing.
>
> And because it has four different calibrated output levels (into 50 ohms):
>
> -107 dBm (1 uV)
> -73 dBm (50 uV / S9)
> -33 dBm (40 over 9)
> 0 dBm (0.23 V RMS, i.e. Humongous)
>
> There are + and - buttons to allow you quickly get to the target ham
> band (160 - 2 meters). Harmonics out to 1400 MHz can be used to cover
> UHF bands as well.
>
> But that's just the start of what you can do with this little
> oscillator. Via the included USB cable, you can control and configure
> the XG3 remotely, do wide-range frequency sweeps, and download new
> firmware. It even includes built-in CW and FSK modulation. ("You mean
> it's a QRPpp CW/RTTY transmit driver for homebrew QRP projects?" Yes.
> With an all-band tunable VFO. "Can you work all states with a barefoot
> XG3?" TBD. Let me know.)
>
> For more information including the downloadable manual, see our XG3 web
> page:
>
> https://elecraft.com/products/xg3
>
> If we've left anything to your imagination, feel free to email me
> directly. You can also see what other XG3 owners are saying on the
> eHam review page:
>
> https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product/9807
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> --
> Elecraft, Inc.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:30:51 -0600
> From: Alan Bloom <n1al at sonic.net>
> To: Elecraft Discussion List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
> Message-ID: <cf07d64b-333b-4842-b140-fc15ec4977a3 at sonic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> > I tried to compare its weight to my HP8647A and nearly broke my postal
> scale.
> > (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V battery included. The HP sig gen warps
> nearby spacetime.)
>
>
> But the HP8647A is a lightweight.? You should have compared it to the
> HP8640B at 46 pounds.? 184 times the weight of the XG3.
>
> Try tying that up in a tree to use as a signal source for a fox hunt!
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
> On 4/28/25 13:14, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > [Breaking News: Eric will interrupt his Hamvention prep to autograph
> > your XG3 manual if you order this week. Just sayin'....]
> >
> > Remember the XG3? It's our deck-of-cards-sized, versatile and highly
> > stable all-band signal source. I tried to compare its weight to my
> > HP8647A and nearly broke my postal scale. (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V
> > battery included. The HP sig gen warps nearby spacetime.)
> >
> > "I need one! (why?)"
> >
> > Because the XG3 puts out a clean, synthesized carrier that simplifies
> > all sorts of receiver work, like filter alignment, MDS testing, and
> > signal tracing.
> >
> > And because it has four different calibrated output levels (into 50
> ohms):
> >
> > -107 dBm (1 uV)
> > -73 dBm (50 uV / S9)
> > -33 dBm (40 over 9)
> > 0 dBm (0.23 V RMS, i.e. Humongous)
> >
> > There are + and - buttons to allow you quickly get to the target ham
> > band (160 - 2 meters). Harmonics out to 1400 MHz can be used to cover
> > UHF bands as well.
> >
> > But that's just the start of what you can do with this little
> > oscillator. Via the included USB cable, you can control and configure
> > the XG3 remotely, do wide-range frequency sweeps, and download new
> > firmware. It even includes built-in CW and FSK modulation. ("You mean
> > it's a QRPpp CW/RTTY transmit driver for homebrew QRP projects?" Yes.
> > With an all-band tunable VFO. "Can you work all states with a barefoot
> > XG3?" TBD. Let me know.)
> >
> > For more information including the downloadable manual, see our XG3 web
> page:
> >
> > https://elecraft.com/products/xg3
> >
> > If we've left anything to your imagination, feel free to email me
> > directly. You can also see what other XG3 owners are saying on the
> > eHam review page:
> >
> > https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product/9807
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 23:52:27 +0000
> From: Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com>
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>, elecraft
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
> Message-ID:
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> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I have one and it's fantastic! Wayne, why add an amp when it's a perfect
> QRPp xsmtr? Just sayin'
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> Scottsdale, AZ
> ________________________________
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> on behalf of Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2025 12:14:47 PM
> To: elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your shack
> keeps asking for
>
> [Breaking News: Eric will interrupt his Hamvention prep to autograph
> your XG3 manual if you order this week. Just sayin'....]
>
> Remember the XG3? It's our deck-of-cards-sized, versatile and highly
> stable all-band signal source. I tried to compare its weight to my
> HP8647A and nearly broke my postal scale. (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V
> battery included. The HP sig gen warps nearby spacetime.)
>
> "I need one! (why?)"
>
> Because the XG3 puts out a clean, synthesized carrier that simplifies
> all sorts of receiver work, like filter alignment, MDS testing, and
> signal tracing.
>
> And because it has four different calibrated output levels (into 50 ohms):
>
> -107 dBm (1 uV)
> -73 dBm (50 uV / S9)
> -33 dBm (40 over 9)
> 0 dBm (0.23 V RMS, i.e. Humongous)
>
> There are + and - buttons to allow you quickly get to the target ham
> band (160 - 2 meters). Harmonics out to 1400 MHz can be used to cover
> UHF bands as well.
>
> But that's just the start of what you can do with this little
> oscillator. Via the included USB cable, you can control and configure
> the XG3 remotely, do wide-range frequency sweeps, and download new
> firmware. It even includes built-in CW and FSK modulation. ("You mean
> it's a QRPpp CW/RTTY transmit driver for homebrew QRP projects?" Yes.
> With an all-band tunable VFO. "Can you work all states with a barefoot
> XG3?" TBD. Let me know.)
>
> For more information including the downloadable manual, see our XG3 web
> page:
>
> https://elecraft.com/products/xg3
>
> If we've left anything to your imagination, feel free to email me
> directly. You can also see what other XG3 owners are saying on the
> eHam review page:
>
> https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product/9807
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> --
> Elecraft, Inc.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 17:13:56 -0700
> From: "Dave (NK7Z)" <dave at nk7z.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
> Message-ID: <d1867cdb-9f52-47ff-8e02-28abd546247b at nk7z.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Wayne,
>
> I have used my XG3 for years, and can't say enough good about it, and
> how useful it is...
>
> The last use was in an antenna building and training class. We set it
> up across a park from where we were, and used it to test the antennas
> built by the folks taking the class... It is handy, small, and a really
> good tool to have.
>
> --
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> It is well-known that the friend of a conqueror is but the last victim.
> Isaac Asimov
>
> On 4/28/25 12:14, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > [Breaking News: Eric will interrupt his Hamvention prep to autograph
> > your XG3 manual if you order this week. Just sayin'....]
> >
> > Remember the XG3? It's our deck-of-cards-sized, versatile and highly
> > stable all-band signal source. I tried to compare its weight to my
> > HP8647A and nearly broke my postal scale. (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V
> > battery included. The HP sig gen warps nearby spacetime.)
> >
> > "I need one! (why?)"
> >
> > Because the XG3 puts out a clean, synthesized carrier that simplifies
> > all sorts of receiver work, like filter alignment, MDS testing, and
> > signal tracing.
> >
> > And because it has four different calibrated output levels (into 50
> ohms):
> >
> > -107 dBm (1 uV)
> > -73 dBm (50 uV / S9)
> > -33 dBm (40 over 9)
> > 0 dBm (0.23 V RMS, i.e. Humongous)
> >
> > There are + and - buttons to allow you quickly get to the target ham
> > band (160 - 2 meters). Harmonics out to 1400 MHz can be used to cover
> > UHF bands as well.
> >
> > But that's just the start of what you can do with this little
> > oscillator. Via the included USB cable, you can control and configure
> > the XG3 remotely, do wide-range frequency sweeps, and download new
> > firmware. It even includes built-in CW and FSK modulation. ("You mean
> > it's a QRPpp CW/RTTY transmit driver for homebrew QRP projects?" Yes.
> > With an all-band tunable VFO. "Can you work all states with a barefoot
> > XG3?" TBD. Let me know.)
> >
> > For more information including the downloadable manual, see our XG3 web
> page:
> >
> > https://elecraft.com/products/xg3
> >
> > If we've left anything to your imagination, feel free to email me
> > directly. You can also see what other XG3 owners are saying on the
> > eHam review page:
> >
> > https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product/9807
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 18:29:56 -0700
> From: Lyle Johnson <kk7p4dsp at gmail.com>
> To: Elecraft Discussion List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
> Message-ID:
> <
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>
> Alan,
>
> Naw, you need an HP 608D (62 lbs) plus an HP606A (43 lbs).
> And the fox hunters will find the pair immediately, just look for a tree
> with really strong branches, no receiver required.
> Or, if you need to QSY really fast, instead of the 606A, use a Measurements
> 65B...
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 3:32?PM Alan Bloom <n1al at sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > > I tried to compare its weight to my HP8647A and nearly broke my postal
> > scale.
> > > (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V battery included. The HP sig gen warps
> > nearby spacetime.)
> >
> >
> > But the HP8647A is a lightweight. You should have compared it to the
> > HP8640B at 46 pounds. 184 times the weight of the XG3.
> >
> > Try tying that up in a tree to use as a signal source for a fox hunt!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 22:14:54 -0400
> From: "Dave New, N8SBE" <n8sbe at densbe.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
> Message-ID: <82adfd948e50eec709cdb32d28e5fb43 at densbe.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Wayne,
>
> You couldn't pry my XG3 out of my cold, dead, fingers, so I'm glad
> you've reintroduced it.
>
> You may have saved a life...
>
> 73,
>
> -- Dave, N8SBE, Hamshack Hotline 550-0971, HamsOverIP 101018,
> AmateurWire 1348
> >
> > On 4/28/25 12:14, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> >> [Breaking News: Eric will interrupt his Hamvention prep to autograph
> >> your XG3 manual if you order this week. Just sayin'....]
> >>
> >> Remember the XG3? It's our deck-of-cards-sized, versatile and highly
> >> stable all-band signal source. I tried to compare its weight to my
> >> HP8647A and nearly broke my postal scale. (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V
> >> battery included. The HP sig gen warps nearby spacetime.)
> >>
> >> "I need one! (why?)"
> >>
> >> Because the XG3 puts out a clean, synthesized carrier that simplifies
> >> all sorts of receiver work, like filter alignment, MDS testing, and
> >> signal tracing.
> >>
> >> And because it has four different calibrated output levels (into 50
> >> ohms):
> >>
> >> -107 dBm (1 uV)
> >> -73 dBm (50 uV / S9)
> >> -33 dBm (40 over 9)
> >> 0 dBm (0.23 V RMS, i.e. Humongous)
> >>
> >> There are + and - buttons to allow you quickly get to the target ham
> >> band (160 - 2 meters). Harmonics out to 1400 MHz can be used to cover
> >> UHF bands as well.
> >>
> >> But that's just the start of what you can do with this little
> >> oscillator. Via the included USB cable, you can control and configure
> >> the XG3 remotely, do wide-range frequency sweeps, and download new
> >> firmware. It even includes built-in CW and FSK modulation. ("You mean
> >> it's a QRPpp CW/RTTY transmit driver for homebrew QRP projects?" Yes.
> >> With an all-band tunable VFO. "Can you work all states with a barefoot
> >> XG3?" TBD. Let me know.)
> >>
> >> For more information including the downloadable manual, see our XG3
> >> web page:
> >>
> >> https://elecraft.com/products/xg3
> >>
> >> If we've left anything to your imagination, feel free to email me
> >> directly. You can also see what other XG3 owners are saying on the
> >> eHam review page:
> >>
> >> https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product/9807
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 20:33:30 -0700
> From: <ebasilier at cox.net>
> To: <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] reintroducing the Elecraft XG3
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I love mine, and would encourage any ham to buy it
> .
> That said, I recently tried to use it in an experiment to demonstrate the
> excellent strong-interference-rejection of my K3.
> I fed the XG3 together with antenna into the K3. It became obvious that the
> XG# generates a lot of wide sidebands.
> When I replaced the XG3 with my HP 8640B at same output level, all those
> unwanted signals were gone.
> So, clean for many purposes, but not comparable with the HP 8640B.
>
> 73,
> Erik K7TV
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 04:00:35 +0000
> From: Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com>
> To: Lyle Johnson <kk7p4dsp at gmail.com>, Elecraft Discussion List
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
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> Use a plant dolly to transport. I use one for my EFHW in HOA.
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> Scottsdale, AZ
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> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> on behalf of Lyle Johnson <kk7p4dsp at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2025 6:29:56 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget your
> shack keeps asking for
>
> Alan,
>
> Naw, you need an HP 608D (62 lbs) plus an HP606A (43 lbs).
> And the fox hunters will find the pair immediately, just look for a tree
> with really strong branches, no receiver required.
> Or, if you need to QSY really fast, instead of the 606A, use a Measurements
> 65B...
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 3:32?PM Alan Bloom <n1al at sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > > I tried to compare its weight to my HP8647A and nearly broke my postal
> > scale.
> > > (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V battery included. The HP sig gen warps
> > nearby spacetime.)
> >
> >
> > But the HP8647A is a lightweight. You should have compared it to the
> > HP8640B at 46 pounds. 184 times the weight of the XG3.
> >
> > Try tying that up in a tree to use as a signal source for a fox hunt!
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:03:04 -0700
> From: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> To: Elecraft Discussion List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reintroducing the Elecraft XG3: That gadget
> your shack keeps asking for
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> A friend worked on the HP FASS (E2506A 8792 Model 7) frequency agile
> generator. I think it was used to test military radars. It was a rack of
> stuff and cost $250k.
>
>
> https://www.keysight.com/us/en/product/E2506A/8791-model-7-fass-dc-to-50-mhz.html
> ?
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Apr 28, 2025, at 6:29?PM, Lyle Johnson <kk7p4dsp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alan,
> >
> > Naw, you need an HP 608D (62 lbs) plus an HP606A (43 lbs).
> > And the fox hunters will find the pair immediately, just look for a tree
> > with really strong branches, no receiver required.
> > Or, if you need to QSY really fast, instead of the 606A, use a
> Measurements
> > 65B...
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Lyle KK7P
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 3:32?PM Alan Bloom <n1al at sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> I tried to compare its weight to my HP8647A and nearly broke my postal
> >> scale.
> >>> (The XG3 weighs 4 oz. -- 9 V battery included. The HP sig gen warps
> >> nearby spacetime.)
> >>
> >>
> >> But the HP8647A is a lightweight. You should have compared it to the
> >> HP8640B at 46 pounds. 184 times the weight of the XG3.
> >>
> >> Try tying that up in a tree to use as a signal source for a fox hunt!
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 22:51:37 -0500
> From: Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] reintroducing the Elecraft XG3
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> Then you have an issue....? My XG3 sends out super clean signals.... as
> did the other 4 I daisy chained like Elecraft does sometimes.
>
> I had folks sit down at my demo and thought it was live...? :)
>
> If I could afford one right now, I'd buy at least one spare.? I might
> not need it, but my sons might a few decades down the road.
>
> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
> KY5G
>
> On 4/28/2025 10:33 PM, ebasilier at cox.net wrote:
> > I love mine, and would encourage any ham to buy it
> > .
> > That said, I recently tried to use it in an experiment to demonstrate the
> > excellent strong-interference-rejection of my K3.
> > I fed the XG3 together with antenna into the K3. It became obvious that
> the
> > XG# generates a lot of wide sidebands.
> > When I replaced the XG3 with my HP 8640B at same output level, all those
> > unwanted signals were gone.
> > So, clean for many purposes, but not comparable with the HP 8640B.
> >
> > 73,
> > Erik K7TV
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 08:53:09 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] reintroducing the Elecraft XG3
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> Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > If I could afford one right now, I'd buy at least one spare. I might
> > not need it, but my sons might a few decades down the road.
> >
> >
> You may want to discuss special in-perpetuity pricing with our Trust
> department.
>
> Wayne
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