[Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

Tue Oct 24 11:54:46 EDT 2023

Thank you Eric. I certainly didn't want to start a conflagration on the 
list, I do appreciate you stepping in here. I used the K3 reflector 
because I have a K3s and this is the one I'm subscribed to and read.

As a slight tangent I've noticed in the past the topics have 
occasionally wandered around and I just skip the ones I'm not interested 
in, perhaps a good policy for the users here?

73 de John WB5THT

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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 11:20:08 -0700
> From: Eric Swartz <eric at elecraft.com>
> To: Toast <mantz at toast.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?
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> Folks - It is perfectly OK to have -civil- discussions here comparing our
> rigs to other rigs (within a reasonable length.) .
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> And it's ok to post Elecraft products for sale here.
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> It is NOT OK to be rude or get personal and criticize other's postings.
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> Please stop the complaints criticizing what others should not post
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>>> On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:02?PM,
>>>
>>> ?LMAO!  Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various
>> un/under-qualified people making comments on equipment they cannot even
>> BEGIN to understand MUCH LESS operate anywhere near its capabilities.
>>> This is the Elecraft manufacturer's list.  It is here to discuss
>> ELECRAFT gear.  Ask Wayne or Eric.  It belongs to THEM.
>>> IF you choose to talk about NON-Elecraft gear, be prepared to field very
>> pointed questions about your qualifications and testing methods.  Because
>> if you are acting a 'fool", it WILL be revealed that you do not know what
>> you don't know.
>>> Be well!
>>>
>>> Just saying.....  there are numerous other venues to discuss your Asian
>> crap.... THIS ain't the place unless you are OK with getting sharpshot
>> until you capitulate.
>>> Have a good day.
>>> lecraft.com <eric.swartz at elecraft.com>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:27:03 -0500
> From: Lou Laderman <lladerman at icloud.com>
> To: Andrew Moore <andrew.nv1b at gmail.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?
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> This back and forth isn?t helpful folks. Sometimes opinions about another?s post are better held privately than to perpetuated in an endless email chain of ill-will.
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> 73, Lou W0FK
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> Lou Laderman
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> On Oct 23, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Moore <andrew.nv1b at gmail.com> wrote:
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> ?Lashing out is an indication of an unrelated underlying issue. Feelings of
> inadequacy or inferiority. Real or imagined.
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> 73,
> -Andrew NV1B
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> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 2:02?PM Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
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>> LMAO!  Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various
>> un/under-qualified people making comments on equipment they cannot even
>> BEGIN to understand MUCH LESS operate anywhere near its capabilities.
>>
>> This is the Elecraft manufacturer's list.  It is here to discuss
>> ELECRAFT gear.  Ask Wayne or Eric.  It belongs to THEM.
>>
>> IF you choose to talk about NON-Elecraft gear, be prepared to field very
>> pointed questions about your qualifications and testing methods.
>> Because if you are acting a 'fool", it WILL be revealed that you do not
>> know what you don't know.
>>
>> Be well!
>>
>> Just saying.....  there are numerous other venues to discuss your Asian
>> crap.... THIS ain't the place unless you are OK with getting sharpshot
>> until you capitulate.
>>
>> Have a good day.
>>
>> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
>> KY5G
>>
>> On 10/23/2023 11:14 AM, Toast wrote:
>>> I came to this list to have honest conversations about the comparison of
>> Elecraft equipment vs other manufacturers.  I prefer to live without my
>> head in the sand.
>>> Rob Mantz
>>> NR4B
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Oct 23, 2023, at 11:22?AM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood.  Please take your
>> Kenwoo0d stuff to another list.  Groups.io, etc...
>>>> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
>>>> KY5G
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:56:13 -0500
> From: "Dr. William J. Schmidt" <bill at wjschmidt.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?
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> So, just asking.... do you ever compare what you buy against a competitor's products?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Clay Autery
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 1:00 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?
>
> LMAO!  Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various un/under-qualified people making comments on equipment they cannot even BEGIN to understand MUCH LESS operate anywhere near its capabilities.
>
> This is the Elecraft manufacturer's list.  It is here to discuss ELECRAFT gear.  Ask Wayne or Eric.  It belongs to THEM.
>
> IF you choose to talk about NON-Elecraft gear, be prepared to field very pointed questions about your qualifications and testing methods. Because if you are acting a 'fool", it WILL be revealed that you do not know what you don't know.
>
> Be well!
>
> Just saying.....  there are numerous other venues to discuss your Asian crap.... THIS ain't the place unless you are OK with getting sharpshot until you capitulate.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
> KY5G
>
> On 10/23/2023 11:14 AM, Toast wrote:
>> I came to this list to have honest conversations about the comparison of Elecraft equipment vs other manufacturers.  I prefer to live without my head in the sand.
>>
>> Rob Mantz
>> NR4B
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2023, at 11:22?AM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood.  Please take your Kenwoo0d stuff to another list.  Groups.io, etc...
>>>
>>> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
>>> KY5G
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:17:57 +0000
> From: Dick Green WC1M <wc1m73 at gmail.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3IOB to P3 cable pinout (E980287)
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> Hi all,
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> I just bought an upgraded K3 that has a KIO3B board. It didn?t come with the E980287 cable that connects the KIO3B RJ45 jack to a P3. I have all the parts and tools to make such a cable, but want to make sure I have the pinout correct. The only info I found for that is on the schematic for the KIO3B Digital I/O Module. Here?s what I think the pinout should be:
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> RJ45                       9-pin RS232 female (1, 6, 8 N.C.)
> 1    N.C.
> 2    TXD               2 (RXD)
> 3    N.C.
> 4    GND              5 (GND)
> 5    RXD               3 (TXD)
> 6    N.C.
> 7    DTR                4 (DTR)
> 8    RTS                 7 (RTS)
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> The main thing I want to be sure about is the TXD/RXD connections ? i.e., that they should be crossed over, like a null modem cable.)
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> Any help will be appreciated!
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
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