[Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

[David Gilbert]

How very boorish of you.  The original post (read it below) specifically 
asked for comparison information, and Wes merely answered.

You are the consummate Elecraft fanboy here and that's fine. but don't 
try to impose your perspective on everyone else.

Dave   AB7E


On 10/23/2023 8:22 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
> I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood.  Please take your 
> Kenwoo0d stuff to another list.  Groups.io, etc...
>
> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
> KY5G
>

> On 10/22/2023 10:17 PM, Wes wrote:
>> Like you I own a K3 and owned and sold a K3S.  I also have a KPA500 
>> and KAT500.  I too got tired of waiting for a K4 and bought a TS-890. 
>> Elecraft radios taught me to always have a spare, so considering 
>> similar ergonomics, I also acquired a TS-590.  Before all of these I 
>> had a Kenwood TS-870 that was flawless for 13 years.
>>
>> True Elecraft service has been fine, the problem has been I've needed 
>> too much of it.  My Kenwood stuff has never required service, so I 
>> can't comment on it.
>>
>> The notch filter on the '890 isn't automatic but the beat cancel is 
>> and quite effective.  I used to say about my '870 that Kenwood wasted 
>> valuable panel space by putting a noise blanker switch on it and the 
>> '890 isn't a whole lot better. The K3 can be, if you don't mind 400+ 
>> different adjustment possibilities.
>>
>> Sorry I can't comment on the K4, since obviously I don't own one, and 
>> I doubt that I ever will, that ship has sailed.
>>
>> Wes  N7WS

>>
>> On 10/22/2023 10:58 AM, John Canfield wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Long time fan of Elecraft, I have a K3s and a KPA1500, both are 
>>> currently in service. My primary HF radio is now a TS-890, I bought 
>>> it about four or so years ago after giving up waiting on the K4's to 
>>> be off the shelf ready to purchase.
>>>
>>> So on to my questions about the two rigs. For those who have fairly 
>>> recent experience running both the TS-890/K4's I would greatly 
>>> appreciate anyone's thoughts and comments about the two rigs. I 
>>> really like the 890 after I finally figured out how to run it (hi 
>>> hi). I like the visual representation of adjusting the high and low 
>>> bandpass filters on the waterfall. One feature of the 890 I don't 
>>> like is the notch filter isn't automatic unlike my K3s.
>>>
>>> I know there's a lot of complaints about relatively poor DSP noise 
>>> reduction on the 890 and I do agree it's not in the same class as my 
>>> K3s but nonetheless it's still quite effective. Receive sensitivity 
>>> on my 890 is outstanding, I'll have to give it a subjective 5 stars 
>>> and my K3s 4 stars.
>>>
>>> One huge bonus of Elecraft is factory service which I've had to use 
>>> a couple of times with my K3s. I give it 5 stars :-)
>>>
>>> Any helpful comments are greatly appreciated and please be brutally 
>>> honest.
>>>
>>> 73 de John WB5THT