[Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

[James Bennett]

Rude, to say the least.




> On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:22 AM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood.  Please take your Kenwoo0d stuff to another list.  Groups.io, etc...
> 
> Clay E. Autery, Jr.
> KY5G
> 
> On 10/22/2023 10:17 PM, Wes wrote:
>> Like you I own a K3 and owned and sold a K3S.  I also have a KPA500 and KAT500.  I too got tired of waiting for a K4 and bought a TS-890. Elecraft radios taught me to always have a spare, so considering similar ergonomics, I also acquired a TS-590.  Before all of these I had a Kenwood TS-870 that was flawless for 13 years.
>> 
>> True Elecraft service has been fine, the problem has been I've needed too much of it.  My Kenwood stuff has never required service, so I can't comment on it.
>> 
>> The notch filter on the '890 isn't automatic but the beat cancel is and quite effective.  I used to say about my '870 that Kenwood wasted valuable panel space by putting a noise blanker switch on it and the '890 isn't a whole lot better. The K3 can be, if you don't mind 400+ different adjustment possibilities.
>> 
>> Sorry I can't comment on the K4, since obviously I don't own one, and I doubt that I ever will, that ship has sailed.
>> 
>> Wes  N7WS
>> 
>> On 10/22/2023 10:58 AM, John Canfield wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Long time fan of Elecraft, I have a K3s and a KPA1500, both are currently in service. My primary HF radio is now a TS-890, I bought it about four or so years ago after giving up waiting on the K4's to be off the shelf ready to purchase.
>>> 
>>> So on to my questions about the two rigs. For those who have fairly recent experience running both the TS-890/K4's I would greatly appreciate anyone's thoughts and comments about the two rigs. I really like the 890 after I finally figured out how to run it (hi hi). I like the visual representation of adjusting the high and low bandpass filters on the waterfall. One feature of the 890 I don't like is the notch filter isn't automatic unlike my K3s.
>>> 
>>> I know there's a lot of complaints about relatively poor DSP noise reduction on the 890 and I do agree it's not in the same class as my K3s but nonetheless it's still quite effective. Receive sensitivity on my 890 is outstanding, I'll have to give it a subjective 5 stars and my K3s 4 stars.
>>> 
>>> One huge bonus of Elecraft is factory service which I've had to use a couple of times with my K3s. I give it 5 stars :-)
>>> 
>>> Any helpful comments are greatly appreciated and please be brutally honest.
>>> 
>>> 73 de John WB5THT
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