[Elecraft] RS232/ U1/ failure
Jack Brindle
jackbrindle at me.com
Sat Feb 25 10:52:50 EST 2023
The ‘1406 is a rather ubiquitous chip - we use it many places in several package styles. It started out life as the Motorola MC141406, and was picked up by many other manufacturers.
You should be able to find a proper substitute from many manufacturers in the package style you need in the KIO3.
I note that both Mouser and Digikey have an ample stock of the TI SN75C1406 at this time.
73,
Jack, W6FB
> On Feb 25, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Geert Jan de Groot <pe1hzg at ymbk.nl> wrote:
>
> On 24/02/2023 21:46, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
>
>> When the K3 is in cold room ( below 5 degrees S) my K3/0 go in TERM
>> mode.
>> Hints say ''replace'' the U1 on the main KIO3 board..........
>> Is the U1 SN75C1406 ( G4) ? Or can I use similar SN75 ?
>> Removed the top cover,and checked voltage , at gold plated test-point
>> close to the upper edge
>> of the main board +5.0 vdc. In the lower end of the SN75, test point at
>> the left side,seen from the front,,
>> start with approx + 0.35 vdc, and drops slowly to approx -0.50 vdc in 4
>> to 5 minutes....
>> My K3 need ''warm up'' also for connecting via PC to K3 utility....
>
> Looking at the schematics, I remember that Elecraft, in history, has used a number of different "logic to RS232 converter" chips. I think these changed as devices became obsolete, ....
>
> Both the SN75C1406 you mention in your other mail as well as the LT1039 that is in the K3 schematics (K3, not K3s) use a positive and a negative voltage. I would suggest checking the VCC8A voltage on your KIO3 board on pin 1 of your driver chip.
>
> For the negative voltage required, at least on the K3 schematics, there is an AF oscillator ("approx 1 kHz") and a FET and some diodes to create a charge pump to create the negative voltage. I would suggest checking the voltage (seems to be pin 9 for both devices) and I would expect around -10V or so.
>
> Given that "the problem solves when the radio warms up" my suspicion would be in the negative voltage generator. Specifically, check the electrolyt capacitors used in the charge pump.
>
> I am a but surprised to see the SN75C1406 reported in your board, because the LT1039 (listed in the K3 schematics) still has production status and seems to be on-stock with Mouser. I did *not* fully verify that these chips are interchangeable but I suspect a power supply problem (sketched above) rather than a broken driver, since broken driver chips do not tend to repair themselves with temperature.
>
> 73,
>
> Geert Jan PE1HZG
>
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