[Elecraft] On ground - in ground radials

[Ray]

I found Lots of SNAKES in Texas !
WA6VAB   Ray K3     


From: Fred Jensen
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 1:34 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] On ground - in ground radials

Yes.  A long time ago on the engineering crew at KSBY-TV, the station 
would rent us out to some of the AM stations who did not have a resident 
engineer, usually when something quit or when their PoP came due.  
Mostly 5 and 10 kW, usually directional, at least at night.  These 
stations were required to have at least 120 radials.  They were also 
required to have those 120 radials connected to the matching network 
ground.  It was common to have a conductive grid out from the base of 
the tower(s)  with the radials connected to the outer edge since 120 to 
a single point is a bit hard physically.  Each tower had it's own grid 
and radial field.  After a few visits, I discovered:

1.  They usually didn't want to me to go out to the tower(s) to inspect 
it/them and the matching network(s). "Snakes" was the excuse.

2.  After insisting on going and that someone accompany me or we 
couldn't complete the PoP, I usually found that no one had been out 
there in years, the matching/phasing networks were full of bugs, webs, 
weeds, and corrosion, and of the radials I could find, some were 
connected, some had corroded away from the connection, and some couldn't 
be found.  Never encountered a snake.

I guess they were faking their PoP's, and maybe continued to do so 
because we weren't hired again by a couple of them.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Jim Brown wrote on 1/17/2022 12:44 PM:
> Just out of high school, I had a summer job at WSAZ, a 5-kw with a 
> 4-tower array, with the same ground screen/raidal configuration on 
> each tower, silver-soldering those radials.
>
> 120 radials was a legal requirement of FCC Rules, and was primarily 
> for standardization of performance.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 1/17/2022 9:28 AM, George Danner wrote:
>> Mike,
>> When I was an AM radio broadcast engineer in the 60s & 70s, we used a
>> copper screen for the first 20' to 50' around the tower base and silver
>> soldered all the 1/4 wavelength radials to the common point straps and
>> several places along the screen. This was in Florida with sandy soil. I
>> seemed to remember from my 1st Phone exam that 120 radials were 
>> required.
>



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