[Elecraft] [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: Shipping via UPS - A Lesson Learned the Hard Way

Mon Apr 11 21:17:17 EDT 2022

The "problem" With shipping via UPS (at least when I was doing it) was 
that If the insurance was $1000 or more, you had to arrange a pickup 
(small pickup charge) and give the package to a UPS driver and obtain 
his signature.
That was more than 5 years ago, so the rules might have changed. I never 
used a UPS Store for shipping.  I did have a local UPS shipping site 
that was much more pleasant to use - as long as I had a UPS shipping 
label attached (from my UPS account) - a small matter of signing up for 
a UPS account all I had to do was drop off the package (again if the 
insurance was below the UPS insurance 'clip point'.

Know the rules, they are fair if you follow them.  I did not ship FedEx 
unless my customer provided me with a shipping label - I did not have a 
FedEX account.

BTW - there are several non UPS shipping places (independent) that are 
better than the UPS store, but if the insurance value is high, the same 
thing applies, you will have to ask them when the UPS truck arrives, and 
wait to get the driver's signature.

Since when I was shipping regularly I had no problem because UPS arrived 
at my home most every day.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/11/2022 6:50 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote:
> The secret to this is getting your own UPS account online.  Its FREE.  Then printing out the REAL UPS labels and getting the real UPS PRICE online....(nothing fancy needed except a printer).   THEN dropping your package off at the local UPS STORE.  FREE.   You will also find that UPS will start sending you coupons for 10-20% off shipping.  I found this out using UPS for my businesses.
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> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Mike Fatchett
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 5:41 PM
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> They are franchise type stores and the rates are ridiculous.  My son worked at one for about a year.   At least they gave you the honest answer and were able to handle at an actual UPS shipping location.  The shipping rates are higher too.
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> On 4/11/2022 4:29 PM, edauer at aya.yale.edu wrote:
>> I just shipped some of my Elecraft gear to someone who had purchased
>> it from me.  The agreement was that I would ship it and they would
>> bear the shipping expense.  The buyer was OK with my using UPS.
>>
>>    
>>
>> So I packed it up and took it to "The UPS Store."  There are about 30
>> of them in the Denver metro area and about a dozen in the city itself.
>> Before taking the package there I looked at UPS on-line to see what
>> insurance would cost.  The UPS site said $1.05 per hundred dollars in
>> excess of the $100 included in the shipping rate.  When I arrived at
>> the UPS Store they charged me $4.50 per $100.  That difference times
>> the value of what I was shipping came to well over $100.  When I
>> questioned it (more accurately, when I complained about it) they told
>> me that UPS and The UPS Store are different entities.  The latter,
>> they said, is a network of franchises independent of the real UPS that
>> "works with" UPS for retail shipping and receiving.  So what I had
>> seen on the UPS website was what UPS charges, not the grossly inflated
>> premium The UPS Store charges.  OK, I asked, how can I ship this via
>> UPS itself?  The answer was a 90 minute round-trip drive to the nearest real UPS terminal.
>>
>>    
>>
>> The UPS Store does not charge real UPS rates.  They have UPS in their name.
>> They use a logo indistinguishable from the UPS logo.  Their counter
>> clerks wear UPS Brown.  There was a standar UPS truck parked in front of the shop.
>> There was NOTHING visible to me in the store that indicated it wasn't
>> a UPS shop.  Maybe everyone on this reflector already knows about
>> this.  Until this morning I didn't.
>>
>>    
>>
>> There's an old maxim that a happy customer tells one other person
>> about their experience.  An unhappy customer tells ten other people.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
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