[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 206, Issue 23
Robert Ward
nq3n at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 28 20:40:47 EDT 2021
Hi Jim I am using the Zero Five 24 ft flagpole and it works well for me.
Have K3 and Kat500 at my desk. I have added 20 20' radials....
Good luck, Bob NQ3N
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Today's Topics:
1. Fun on 14.074 today (Ed Cole)
2. Re: Don?t throw those old DOS computers away (David Wilcox)
3. Re: Don?t throw those old DOS computers away (Jim Brown)
4. KX3 & AX1 in 2021 Field Day (Jay Grokowsky)
5. K2 BFO (jerry)
6. Re: K2 BFO (Don Wilhelm)
7. K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas (James Bennett)
8. Re: K2 BFO (jerry)
9. Re: K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas (Craig Smith)
10. Re: K2 BFO (Don Wilhelm)
11. Re: K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas (James Bennett)
12. Re: K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas (Howard Saxion)
13. Re: K2 BFO (jerry)
14. Re: K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas (Bayard Coolidge, N1HO)
15. Re: Field Day report (Linda M)
16. Re: K2 BFO (Don Wilhelm)
17. HOA Crap (jerry)
18. Re: K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas (James Bennett)
19. Re: HOA Crap (Dennis Moore)
20. Re: Don?t throw those old DOS computers away (Michael Walker)
21. Re: Don?t throw those old DOS computers away (jerry)
22. Re: Don?t throw those old DOS computers away (Rick NK7I)
23. Re: Don?t throw those old DOS computers away (kevinr)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 17:47:09 -0800
From: Ed Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Fun on 14.074 today
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Well it started out troubleshooting why I had bad SWR with the new 20m
dipole I put up.? And (of course) it was the RG-58 coax jumper I had
used for umpteen years without trouble.? So realizing that my broken
tri-band yagi might not be broken, I tried 20m and it tuned up nice with
my KXPA100/KXAT100.? SWR was about 3.9 without tuning (very old trap yagi).
So I listened to the FD a bit on SSB then tuned in FT8 on 14.074 (wholly
Moses, the bandwidth was clobbered with signals).? So with only 100w I
tried a few contacts.? In the last two hours of FD, I made 11-contacts
(and messed up 12).? Best was working BH2UEZ in PM08 (China) with my
yagi pointed East.
worked: BC,UWA,SV,SCV,UT,WY,LAX, and OR.? About an hour at 100w the amp
started faulting (surmised over-temp and lowered power to 30w, finally
running my k3/10 barefoot).? Also checked 15m and 10m for tuning (all
good).? Maybe the "old girl" still has some kicks!
Other news I am building a MRF 1K50H LMOS HF/6m amp.? Cited at 1200w, it
will replace my Harris ch.2 TV amp that I use on 6m.? When new amp is
running I will sell the Harris with the HP 50v PS I have been using
(bought a new Meanwell RSP-3000-48 to replace it).
Getting ready to pour concrete to re-set my 2m-eme tower.
73, Ed - KL7UW (1D AK)
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 04:34:57 -0400
From: David Wilcox <djwilcox01 at yahoo.com>
To: "Kenneth A, Christiansen" <w0cz at i29.net>
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don?t throw those old DOS computers away
Message-ID: <765E0423-23F8-4FD0-B1C9-4F2C183207F9 at yahoo.com>
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One of the hams running our CW tent used his old favorite logging program
and brought along an old DOS computer to run it??. I can?t remember the name
of the program but it worked well and he racked up a good score. Everyone
was shocked to see the old big DOS computer sitting on the table. I guess
one should never throw anything away that works and you are comfortable with
it.
Dave K8WPE (and the Cherryland ARC in Traverse City, MI.)
David J. Wilcox?s iPad
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Kenneth A, Christiansen <w0cz at i29.net> wrote:
>
> ?Hi to the group
>
> I have run a program called 73 on my IPAD for several years but now the
author has died and Apple has updated the IPAD operating system and the
program will not run. I operated entirely battery with solar charging and
for several years was able to run the I3S, P3 and the IPAD logging program
for the entire 24 hours and end up with a fully charged battery by Sunday
noon.
>
> I had to get a source of 110V AC and run my windows computer with N3FJP.
That is a good program but what I want is a way to do field day logging and
DUPE prevention all on solar power again. I could not find a program for the
IPAD to do that and I don't know enough about computers to know if there is
a computer that would do that with N3FJP.
>
> That is my problem and I am looking for a solution.
>
> I once again enjoyed Field Day and was impressed by all the stations all
over the country I was able to work using only the 5 watts from the K3S and
a 32 ft vertical antenna on the hitch of my camping trailer.
>
> 73 and thanks
>
> W0CZ Ken C
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:55:08 -0700
From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don?t throw those old DOS computers away
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Yes, he SHOULD throw it away and learn modern logging software. Among
other things, that modern software can easily link computers from
multiple stations in a club setup. That's important, because each
station can see the other's log. We work QRP battery with a single K3,
and are often weak at the other end of the QSO. When logging computers
are linked, each station sees the QSOs we've already had on 20 (easier
copy) when we work them on 40, 80, and 15, so it's rare for them to need
a fill if they are networked.
It was disappointing to see that so many hams fail to continue their
ongoing education by learning new stuff, like modern logging software.
I'll be 80 in the fall, a ham since age 15, BSEE in 1964, and I still
try to learn new stuff every day. BTW - I do LOTS of FT8 and MSK144 on
6M and FT8 on 160M, our QRP CW operation was all CW. W6JTI and I made a
combined 680 QSOs. I've been using K1JT's digital modes for more than
ten years. So have a bunch of OTs I know. And when I was taking a break
from CW, I worked FT8 on 6M (along with K6EU, our primary VHF op) to
pass out our rare grid (CM86). That VHF station ran high power and was
not part of our QRP FD operation from a contesting point of view. Tom
and I were simply lighting up our rare grid.
73, Jim K9YC
On 6/28/2021 1:34 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft wrote:
> One of the hams running our CW tent used his old favorite logging program
and brought along an old DOS computer to run it??. I can?t remember the name
of the program but it worked well and he racked up a good score. Everyone
was shocked to see the old big DOS computer sitting on the table. I guess
one should never throw anything away that works and you are comfortable with
it.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:25:45 -0500
From: Jay Grokowsky <jpacker99a at gmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & AX1 in 2021 Field Day
Message-ID: <18E133CB-4040-42B9-8E36-C7B4DE1FA4F9 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Had a ball with my nearly new KX3 and AX1 vertical.
Set up portable at 7am Sunday in Bay View Park in Milwaukee (right next to
Lake Michigan). Spent about 3 hours using only 3 watts and managed to work
about 75 stations across 40, 20, 15 & 10. Thank goodness for 15 being open.
This was my first time using the AX1. Worked flawlessly out of the box. It
does help to elevate the counterpoise wires so it helped to have a few
bushes near my park bench.
Spent the rest of FD before and after the park operation using a 35? wire up
maybe 7 feet at most, strung outside the window of our AirBNB. Overall 141
Qs in about 7 hours. No where near my best effort but for running 3 W in
the park and 15 watts to a suboptimal wire antenna it was one of the most
satisfying contests I have had in awhile.
With QRP/suboptimal antennas (as with most other things in life - like
waiting for a K4D) you have to be patient. QSOs take time but they can be
more satisfying than rotating the beam and turning on the KPA500, thus
blasting your competition out of the water ;-)
- Yes, I do have a K4D on order but if it had arrived in early 2021 I would
not have purchased the KX3. And BTW the KX3 works just fine with a KPA 500
- ?only? 200 watts but works better for me that the old IC737.
I find it amazing that you can re-invent your love of a hobby just by
getting some new gear. (First new radio in 26 years). This FD reminded me of
my first FD in 1979 using an HW8 and a 135? wire and just how much fun it
was (and still is) to have someone come back to your call.
73
Jay
N9CIQ
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:00:37 -0700
From: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>
To: Jay Grokowsky <jpacker99a at gmail.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 BFO
Message-ID: <386593fb3d5d5cfd7cf3a9367c869f3e at tr2.com>
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Hello all,
I note that my new ( to me ) K2 is not well set up on the BFO for the
narrow CW filters. It's fine for the 1.5kHz one, but the audio passband
is too high for all the narrower ones - so I cannot "spot" tune. If my
sidetone is set to say 600Hz,
it's on the lower slope of the audio peak.
It seems to be straightforward to adjust the BFO per filter with the
CAL FIL function. With a tablet running a spectrum analyzer, I can pull
the audio spectrum right down to where it needs to be, no problem.
HOWEVER, when I try to save it, I get "INFO 230" which means that the
frequency counter is not connected to the BFO. And the passband doesn't
stay changed.
Is it true that the rig will refuse to save the BFO setting unless it
can measure the BFO frequency?
My radio came to me without a frequency probe. I do have one on
order from Elecraft. I also have enough junk to make one. A hunk of
RG316, some dupont connectors, an 11pf dipped silver mica capacitor.
But - at the moment, I really don't want to do any of that stuff. I
just want to slide the audio output spectrum down to where I can get on
with operating. And I'm not interested in the numerical BFO reading.
Ultimately, I will set up the filters from scratch - I have the upgraded
crystals AND the SSB adapter on order.
Can the radio REALLY not save the BFO setting unless it can measure it?
- Jerry KF6VB
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:14:20 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <don at w3fpr.com>
To: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>, Jay Grokowsky <jpacker99a at gmail.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO
Message-ID: <d49783ad-dcfa-b174-5f3f-68d9cc815223 at w3fpr.com>
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Jerry,
Yes, you need to have the counter probe plugged into TP2 to save thee
BFO frequency.
You can build your own probe - if you use #14 solid wire, it will fit
nicely into the test points.
Solder the 11pF right above the tip and coax up to the header on the
Control Board - the shield goes closest to the left side panel.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 6/28/2021 11:00 AM, jerry wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> ?? I note that my new ( to me ) K2 is not well set up on the BFO for
> the narrow CW filters.? It's fine for the 1.5kHz one, but the audio
> passband is too high for all the narrower ones - so I cannot "spot"
> tune.?? If my sidetone is set to say 600Hz,
> it's on the lower slope of the audio peak.
>
> ? It seems to be straightforward to adjust the BFO per filter with the
> CAL FIL function.? With a tablet running a spectrum analyzer, I can
> pull the audio spectrum right down to where it needs to be, no problem.
>
> ? HOWEVER, when I try to save it, I get "INFO 230" which means that
> the frequency counter is not connected to the BFO.? And the passband
> doesn't stay changed.
>
> ? Is it true that the rig will refuse to save the BFO setting unless
> it can measure the BFO frequency?
>
> ?? My radio came to me without a frequency probe.? I do have one on
> order from Elecraft.? I also have enough junk to make one.? A hunk of
> RG316, some dupont connectors, an 11pf dipped silver mica capacitor.
>
> ? But - at the moment, I really don't want to do any of that stuff.? I
> just want to slide the audio output spectrum down to where I can get
> on with operating.? And I'm not interested in the numerical BFO
> reading.? Ultimately, I will set up the filters from scratch - I have
> the upgraded crystals AND the SSB adapter on order.
>
> ?Can the radio REALLY not save the BFO setting unless it can measure it?
>
> ???????????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 10:52:18 -0600
From: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas
Message-ID: <88DA8B7E-35EF-4C2C-BC25-8B0BC7862C2A at me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Wondering if anyone on this reflector is using their K-Line rig (especially
the KAT500) with one of the ZeroFive Flagpole antennas? I?m moving to a new
home with HOA/CC&R crap (you know the drill - happy wife, happy life) and am
considering the ZeroFive 24 foot, 40-6 meter flagpole antenna. If you?ve run
one of these antennas and have matched it via a KAT500, how well did it
work? Did you have the KAT500 on your desk, or remote at the antenna base?
These antennas have gotten great five-star reviews on eHam.net
<http://eham.net/>, so that seems to indicate that these very expensive
verticals might be a viable solution.
Jim / K7TXA
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 10:05:09 -0700
From: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO
Message-ID: <120dbdb17b6bdb201bc6bacfbef16a3e at tr2.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
All,
OK, I did it. Made up a counter probe from a hunk of
rg316, crimped a couple of dupont female clips onto the end,
put them in a shell, squished a dab of hot melt glue between the pins so
they couldn't short out, slipped over a bit of shrink...etc.
I recently acquired a GPSDO ( GPS Disciplined Oscillator ) that is
supposed to emit 10MHz accurate to a tiny fraction of a Hertz. Will be
using that to calibrate the frequency counter. But for the nonce...
.. I redid all 8 CW BFO settings - first wrote down what they were - by
holding a tablet up to the K2 and running spectrum analyzer software I
got off Google Play. I centered each passband at about 600Hz.
The rig is transformed. Now all of the selectivity settings are
completely usable. Wish it had been like this yesterday. And I wish
there were more signals to listen to today :).
- Jerry KF6VB
On 2021-06-28 08:14, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> Yes, you need to have the counter probe plugged into TP2 to save thee
> BFO frequency.
> You can build your own probe - if you use #14 solid wire, it will fit
> nicely into the test points.
> Solder the 11pF right above the tip and coax up to the header on the
> Control Board - the shield goes closest to the left side panel.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/28/2021 11:00 AM, jerry wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> ?? I note that my new ( to me ) K2 is not well set up on the BFO for
>> the narrow CW filters.? It's fine for the 1.5kHz one, but the audio
>> passband is too high for all the narrower ones - so I cannot "spot"
>> tune.?? If my sidetone is set to say 600Hz,
>> it's on the lower slope of the audio peak.
>>
>> ? It seems to be straightforward to adjust the BFO per filter with the
>> CAL FIL function.? With a tablet running a spectrum analyzer, I can
>> pull the audio spectrum right down to where it needs to be, no
>> problem.
>>
>> ? HOWEVER, when I try to save it, I get "INFO 230" which means that
>> the frequency counter is not connected to the BFO.? And the passband
>> doesn't stay changed.
>>
>> ? Is it true that the rig will refuse to save the BFO setting unless
>> it can measure the BFO frequency?
>>
>> ?? My radio came to me without a frequency probe.? I do have one on
>> order from Elecraft.? I also have enough junk to make one.? A hunk of
>> RG316, some dupont connectors, an 11pf dipped silver mica capacitor.
>>
>> ? But - at the moment, I really don't want to do any of that stuff.? I
>> just want to slide the audio output spectrum down to where I can get
>> on with operating.? And I'm not interested in the numerical BFO
>> reading.? Ultimately, I will set up the filters from scratch - I have
>> the upgraded crystals AND the SSB adapter on order.
>>
>> ?Can the radio REALLY not save the BFO setting unless it can measure
>> it?
>>
>> ???????????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:24:33 -0600
From: Craig Smith <ac0ds at sent.com>
To: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas
Message-ID: <F165F095-7AC5-460A-A3B9-9D3159F9F4FE at sent.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Jim ?
How well it ?works? will be almost entirely dependent on the radial system
you have installed and on the local noise level. I?d recommend at least 32
radials - as long as you have space for. On or in ground is fine. If you
do that, the performance and patterns should be approximately like the
charts shown in all the handbooks for verticals over a ground plane.
If you are asking about the ability of the tuners in the Elecraft products
to accommodate the mismatch on each band, that is a different question. In
general Elecraft?s tuners will handle up to a 10:1 SWR.
73 Craig AC0DS
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 13:39:42 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <don at w3fpr.com>
To: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO
Message-ID: <e6d3ff24-f321-862f-efe7-460ec3bb3367 at w3fpr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Jerry,
That GPSDO will be good for setting the dial calibration, but WWV is
better since it transmits AM at a fixed frequency.
Instructions for doing a good dial calibration are on my website
www.w3fpr.com.? It explains the entire procedure.
Use SSB when doing the dial calibration because there is an offset if
you try to use CW - no offset with SSB.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 6/28/2021 1:05 PM, jerry wrote:
> All,
>
> ?? OK, I did it.? Made up a counter probe from a hunk of
> rg316, crimped a couple of dupont female clips onto the end,
> put them in a shell, squished a dab of hot melt glue between the pins
> so they couldn't short out, slipped over a bit of shrink...etc.
>
> ? I recently acquired a GPSDO ( GPS Disciplined Oscillator ) that is
> supposed to emit 10MHz accurate to a tiny fraction of a Hertz. Will be
> using that to calibrate the frequency counter.? But for the nonce...
>
> ... I redid all 8 CW BFO settings - first wrote down what they were -
> by holding a tablet up to the K2 and running spectrum analyzer
> software I got off Google Play.? I centered each passband at about 600Hz.
>
> ? The rig is transformed. Now all of the selectivity settings are
> completely usable.? Wish it had been like this yesterday.? And I wish
> there were more signals to listen to today :).
>
> ???????????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:57:08 -0600
From: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas
Message-ID: <4BECCE10-860C-405B-821E-E07ABBEB2372 at me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi Craig - Yes, understood about the radials - I?ve had other verticals
before and found very good performance - providing a lot of radials are
used. I?ve got no problem laying out a LOT of them, as the grass grows
pretty fast here in this part of Idaho and will cover them up in no time.
We'll be living in a development on the edge of a lot of farm land (no, not
potatoes - alfalfa, corn, sugar beets!) - miles from the noisy city
environment. All underground electric services, too. So I?m hopeful my QRN
levels will be low. Right now living in an apartment complex with several
hundred units. I have a Buddistick mounted on a balcony railing and have a
solid S9 noise level 24x7 on my IC-705. :-(
I?ve also used my KAT500 for years at another QTH in CA with an 88 foot long
doublet fed with 600 ohm ladder line and the tuner worked great. But I?m
wondering how the KAT500 (or the K3 internal tuner) handles something like
the ZeroFIve. So, hopefully someone on this list is also using one? :-)
73, Jim / K7TXA
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Craig Smith <ac0ds at sent.com> wrote:
>
> Jim ?
>
> How well it ?works? will be almost entirely dependent on the radial system
you have installed and on the local noise level. I?d recommend at least 32
radials - as long as you have space for. On or in ground is fine. If you
do that, the performance and patterns should be approximately like the
charts shown in all the handbooks for verticals over a ground plane.
>
> If you are asking about the ability of the tuners in the Elecraft products
to accommodate the mismatch on each band, that is a different question. In
general Elecraft?s tuners will handle up to a 10:1 SWR.
>
>
> 73 Craig AC0DS
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:12:00 -0700
From: Howard Saxion <howardsaxion at mac.com>
To: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas
Message-ID: <CEA5BA28-D51A-4E77-A575-C4CFD0687621 at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I do not own the Zero-Five flagpole antenna but I own and have used the
Zero-Five 40 meter vertical (33 feet in height). I used this antenna on
40-6 meters with my upgraded K3, KAT500, and KPA500. I do not have HOA
constraints, but I live on a small urban lot that is topographically
challenged (steep slopes).
The Zero-Five build quality and materials are excellent. Customer support is
great and very responsive. Conceptually, the flagpole and monopole antennas
are similar in that they use a 4:1 UNUN, require radials, and are not
resonant when used as a multi-band vertical. SWR on all bands is typically
less than 4:1 and the KAT500 easily matches it. Zero-Five uses an UNUN made
by Balun Designs which are well made and robust. If installing a flagpole
antenna is your only option, Zero-Five is a good choice.
Have you considered a vertical on a tilt base that you can easily lower. I
like the Zero-Five but I am currently using a DX Commander all band vertical
(40-6M). It is ?stealthy? as it uses a black fiberglass collapsible pole (33
feet in length). It could be installed using a tilt base. I like this
antenna because it is simple, is resonant (less than 1.5:1 on all bands),
and does not use traps, UNUNs, etc. I used the same radials I installed for
the Zero-Five and have had good results with it. Good luck.
73
Howard/WX7HS
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 09:53, James Bennett via Elecraft
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> ?Wondering if anyone on this reflector is using their K-Line rig
(especially the KAT500) with one of the ZeroFive Flagpole antennas? I?m
moving to a new home with HOA/CC&R crap (you know the drill - happy wife,
happy life) and am considering the ZeroFive 24 foot, 40-6 meter flagpole
antenna. If you?ve run one of these antennas and have matched it via a
KAT500, how well did it work? Did you have the KAT500 on your desk, or
remote at the antenna base? These antennas have gotten great five-star
reviews on eHam.net <http://eham.net/>, so that seems to indicate that these
very expensive verticals might be a viable solution.
>
> Jim / K7TXA
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:16:03 -0700
From: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>
To: don at w3fpr.com
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO
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Hi Don,
One of the first things I did after getting this rig in the mail, was
to verify that it received WWV at the proper frequency - and that USB
sounded like LSB. That reassured me
that the dial was accurate enough to keep me inside the ham bands.
People often instruct one to "zero beat" WWV. I fail to see how this
can be done with an SSB receiver with a properly set BFO, since the
carrier is then outside of the filter bandpass. Also, except during
the announcement period, WWV is actually transmitting multiple "carrier"
frequencies at the same time.
Not going to mess with SSB a lot at this time because I have the SSB
adapter on order, and I'd have to do it all again anyway after receiving
that.
I just calibrated the counter with the GPSDO. It was showing
9.....96 ( forget how many digits :). A quick tweak of the trimmer cap
got it to 10.0000 ( however many zeros ).
This is just a temporary bodge, because I also have a TCXO on order,
will have to do that again too.
- Jerry KF6VB
On 2021-06-28 10:39, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> That GPSDO will be good for setting the dial calibration, but WWV is
> better since it transmits AM at a fixed frequency.
> Instructions for doing a good dial calibration are on my website
> www.w3fpr.com.? It explains the entire procedure.
> Use SSB when doing the dial calibration because there is an offset if
> you try to use CW - no offset with SSB.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/28/2021 1:05 PM, jerry wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> ?? OK, I did it.? Made up a counter probe from a hunk of
>> rg316, crimped a couple of dupont female clips onto the end,
>> put them in a shell, squished a dab of hot melt glue between the pins
>> so they couldn't short out, slipped over a bit of shrink...etc.
>>
>> ? I recently acquired a GPSDO ( GPS Disciplined Oscillator ) that is
>> supposed to emit 10MHz accurate to a tiny fraction of a Hertz. Will be
>> using that to calibrate the frequency counter.? But for the nonce...
>>
>> ... I redid all 8 CW BFO settings - first wrote down what they were -
>> by holding a tablet up to the K2 and running spectrum analyzer
>> software I got off Google Play.? I centered each passband at about
>> 600Hz.
>>
>> ? The rig is transformed. Now all of the selectivity settings are
>> completely usable.? Wish it had been like this yesterday.? And I wish
>> there were more signals to listen to today :).
>>
>> ???????????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
>>
>>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:22:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bayard Coolidge, N1HO" <n1ho at yahoo.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, James
Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas
Message-ID: <1167640139.1258850.1624904575286 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi, Jim -
I don't have a KAT500, but I do have an upgraded K3 (near-K3s) with the
internal tuner that I run barefoot to a ZeroFive 30m quarter-wave vertical
with a wire attached to its tip, running about 40 feet to the north to the
top of an avocado tree. My radial field is putrid - just a couple of
quarter-wave wires for each band, because our house lot in south Florida is
1/5 acre, and I have 7.5 kV 3-phase power lines running down two sides of
the property. However, it (and its predecessor, a Zero-Five 20m quarter-wave
vertical) has held up very well in the salt air, and performed beautifully.
In fact, I also have a large coil that allows me to tune it on 630m. When
using it without the 630m coil, the internal tuner matches up beautifully on
all bands from 80m through 10m. I've always been very impressed by the
construction of these antennas - beautiful machine work, precise fittings,
and very durable, so I highly recommend them from that perspective.
I augmented my radial field with three 8 foot ground rods pounded into the
sand angled downward away from the base, plus I ran some #000to the ground
screen under the swimming pool. Typical ground resistance at resonance is
about 25 Ohms.
I'm not subject to HOA/CC&R restrictions, and our city does allow amateur
radio antennas to a certain extent (60 ft max for the first tower,
oneadditional tower at 40ft), but considering we're right on the Atlantic
coast, that's pretty understandable.
(And, Florida Power & Light is in the process of moving all of the HV and
household feeders underground, so really, at this writing, I have 3-phaseHV
lines along only one side of the property, and those might have been
de-energized at this point as well; I will perform another round ofnoise
measurements when we return in November, but the noise was about S9 this
winter before they started working on the lines).
HTH and 73,
Brandy, N1HO (EL96xh)
On Monday, June 28, 2021, 12:53:35 PM EDT, James Bennett via Elecraft
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
Wondering if anyone on this reflector is using their K-Line rig (especially
the KAT500) with one of the ZeroFive Flagpole antennas? I?m moving to a new
home with HOA/CC&R crap (you know the drill - happy wife, happy life) and am
considering the ZeroFive 24 foot, 40-6 meter flagpole antenna. If you?ve run
one of these antennas and have matched it via a KAT500, how well did it
work? Did you have the KAT500 on your desk, or remote at the antenna base?
These antennas have gotten great five-star reviews on eHam.net
<http://eham.net/>, so that seems to indicate that these very expensive
verticals might be a viable solution.
Jim / K7TXA
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:26:33 -0700
From: Linda M <wa6vab at gmail.com>
To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>, elecraft Reflector
<Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day report
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:48:00 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <don at w3fpr.com>
To: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO
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Jerry,
Read the article on my website.? Just adjusting C22 is not enough for a
complete job of dial calibration.
That oscillator is the clock for the MCU.? The dial calibration data is
stored in EEPROM and is what is used to display the dial frequency.? The
EEPROM is loaded by running the CAL PLL menu routine with the counter
probe in TP1.
Yes, C22 must be adjusted just before running CAL PLL or CAL BFO.
I use WWV which transmits 500 or 600 Hz tones on alternate minutes.?
Using SSB, align those tones with the 500 and 600 Hz markers on your
audio spectrum analyzer to assure that you are tuned correctly.
Once you get the KSB2 option installed, you can enter the BFO
frequencies suggested in the manual and then proceed to do a more
precise dial and BFO calibration.
The DAC steps for the BFO limits the precision that you can achieve, but
10 to 20 Hz is achievable.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 6/28/2021 2:16 PM, jerry wrote:
> Hi Don,
>
> ?? One of the first things I did after getting this rig in the mail,
> was to verify that it received WWV at the proper frequency - and that
> USB sounded like LSB.? That reassured me
> that the dial was accurate enough to keep me inside the ham bands.
>
> ?? People often instruct one to "zero beat" WWV.? I fail to see how
> this can be done with an SSB receiver with a properly set BFO, since
> the carrier is then outside of the filter bandpass.?? Also, except
> during the announcement period, WWV is actually transmitting multiple
> "carrier" frequencies at the same time.
>
> ?? Not going to mess with SSB a lot at this time because I have the
> SSB adapter on order, and I'd have to do it all again anyway after
> receiving that.
>
> ?? I just calibrated the counter with the GPSDO.? It was showing
> 9.....96 ( forget how many digits :).? A quick tweak of the trimmer
> cap got it to 10.0000 ( however many zeros ).
>
> ?? This is just a temporary bodge, because I also have a TCXO on
> order, will have to do that again too.
>
> ???????????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2021-06-28 10:39, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> That GPSDO will be good for setting the dial calibration, but WWV is
>> better since it transmits AM at a fixed frequency.
>> Instructions for doing a good dial calibration are on my website
>> www.w3fpr.com.? It explains the entire procedure.
>> Use SSB when doing the dial calibration because there is an offset if
>> you try to use CW - no offset with SSB.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:27:09 -0700
From: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] HOA Crap
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All,
Just had to share this snippet from a recent letter I received from my
HOA:
"Dear Homeowner:
Your architectural plans, to install a vertical antenna for
Amateur Radio, approx 25 feet tall, mounted on existing pool solar
heating array, on a hill behind the house. Used for FAA-licensed
amateur radio activities. This antenna predates the formation of the
HOA [...]. Your plans have been approved...."
The secret? The Board has the power to approve pretty much anything,
regardless of the CC&Rs. And I'm on the Board. I'm also on the
architecture commmittee.
When I moved here in 2011, there was no HOA. But it was in the deed.
When the HOA was formed, I ran for the Board, got elected ( not much
competition ), and made d*mn sure I was on the architecture committee.
- Jerry KF6VB
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:37:24 -0600
From: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Line / ZeroFive Antennas
Message-ID: <E5CBD153-8F67-44E9-87F3-1CF5BAD95D9B at me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Thanks folks - seems that I?m on the right path on this one. I?m most likely
going to order one of these flagpole antennas as soon as we get possession
of the house and I see what the HOA wants as far as documentation. I spoke
with another guy down the street who has a flagpole (not a ham) and he said
they want minimal info and a small form to fill out. Got to get my post hole
digger and steel bar all warmed up!
73 & thanks again, Jim K7TXA
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Don Roberts <don_roberts2000 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> Not using the flagpole vertical but do use a 31 ft vertical as well as DX
Commander 1/4 wave vertical and have no ptoblem with my KAT 500 or KPA 500
loading 40 to 6 meters. Have also loaded on the DX window on 75 and worked
onto Europe. I have 18 radials down. Also use full wave 80 loop and hex
beam.
>
> Don, W4CBS
>
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> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 1:57 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
> Hi Craig - Yes, understood about the radials - I?ve had other verticals
before and found very good performance - providing a lot of radials are
used. I?ve got no problem laying out a LOT of them, as the grass grows
pretty fast here in this part of Idaho and will cover them up in no time.
We'll be living in a development on the edge of a lot of farm land (no, not
potatoes - alfalfa, corn, sugar beets!) - miles from the noisy city
environment. All underground electric services, too. So I?m hopeful my QRN
levels will be low. Right now living in an apartment complex with several
hundred units. I have a Buddistick mounted on a balcony railing and have a
solid S9 noise level 24x7 on my IC-705. :-(
>
> I?ve also used my KAT500 for years at another QTH in CA with an 88 foot
long doublet fed with 600 ohm ladder line and the tuner worked great. But
I?m wondering how the KAT500 (or the K3 internal tuner) handles something
like the ZeroFIve. So, hopefully someone on this list is also using one? :-)
>
> 73, Jim / K7TXA
>
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Craig Smith <ac0ds at sent.com
<mailto:ac0ds at sent.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Jim ?
> >
> > How well it ?works? will be almost entirely dependent on the radial
system you have installed and on the local noise level. I?d recommend at
least 32 radials - as long as you have space for. On or in ground is fine.
If you do that, the performance and patterns should be approximately like
the charts shown in all the handbooks for verticals over a ground plane.
> >
> > If you are asking about the ability of the tuners in the Elecraft
products to accommodate the mismatch on each band, that is a different
question. In general Elecraft?s tuners will handle up to a 10:1 SWR.
> >
> >
> > 73 Craig AC0DS
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 13:45:27 -0700
From: Dennis Moore <dennis at mail4life.net>
To: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>, Elecraft Reflector Reflector
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HOA Crap
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FAA-licensed? I'd request a new letter with FCC-licensed.
Dennis NJ6G
On 6/28/2021 12:27, jerry wrote:
> All,
>
> ? Just had to share this snippet from a recent letter I received from
> my HOA:
>
> "Dear Homeowner:
>
> ? Your architectural plans, to install a vertical antenna for
> Amateur Radio, approx 25 feet tall, mounted on existing pool solar
> heating array, on a hill behind the house.? Used for FAA-licensed
> amateur radio activities.? This antenna predates the formation of the
> HOA [...].?? Your plans have been approved...."
>
> ?? The secret?? The Board has the power to approve pretty much
> anything, regardless of the CC&Rs.? And I'm on the Board.? I'm also on
> the architecture commmittee.
>
> ? When I moved here in 2011, there was no HOA.? But it was in the
> deed.? When the HOA was formed, I ran for the Board, got elected ( not
> much competition ), and made d*mn sure I was on the architecture
> committee.
>
> ???????????? - Jerry KF6VB
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 17:16:21 -0400
From: Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net>
To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com
Cc: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don?t throw those old DOS computers away
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I agree with Jim on this one. :)
Mike va3mw
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 4:55 AM Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> Yes, he SHOULD throw it away and learn modern logging software. Among
> other things, that modern software can easily link computers from
> multiple stations in a club setup. That's important, because each
> station can see the other's log. We work QRP battery with a single K3,
> and are often weak at the other end of the QSO. When logging computers
> are linked, each station sees the QSOs we've already had on 20 (easier
> copy) when we work them on 40, 80, and 15, so it's rare for them to need
> a fill if they are networked.
>
> It was disappointing to see that so many hams fail to continue their
> ongoing education by learning new stuff, like modern logging software.
> I'll be 80 in the fall, a ham since age 15, BSEE in 1964, and I still
> try to learn new stuff every day. BTW - I do LOTS of FT8 and MSK144 on
> 6M and FT8 on 160M, our QRP CW operation was all CW. W6JTI and I made a
> combined 680 QSOs. I've been using K1JT's digital modes for more than
> ten years. So have a bunch of OTs I know. And when I was taking a break
> from CW, I worked FT8 on 6M (along with K6EU, our primary VHF op) to
> pass out our rare grid (CM86). That VHF station ran high power and was
> not part of our QRP FD operation from a contesting point of view. Tom
> and I were simply lighting up our rare grid.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 6/28/2021 1:34 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft wrote:
> > One of the hams running our CW tent used his old favorite logging
> program and brought along an old DOS computer to run it??. I can?t
remember
> the name of the program but it worked well and he racked up a good score.
> Everyone was shocked to see the old big DOS computer sitting on the table.
> I guess one should never throw anything away that works and you are
> comfortable with it.
>
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:54:17 -0700
From: jerry <jerry at tr2.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don?t throw those old DOS computers away
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So what's the hot ticket nowadays on logging software?
I rolled my own, but it's
quite primitive. It runs on my Linux server and I access it via a web
browser. It gives me a pair of clocks at the top - local and UTC. At
the bottom, there's a big text window for copying code. In between -
the list of contacts, plus a form for entering a new one. The current
UTC timestamp is automatically put in. The latest contact has a button
for ending it - and putting in the "end" UTC timestamp.
It was easy to do that, because I already wrote substantial software
in support of my business, and the infrastructure was all there -
webserver, SSL, libraries for linking multiple pages, templates etc etc.
I'm sure that other people have written logging software with
features I can barely imagine.
Right now, I'm thinking of having it automatically nominate text in
the CW copy window for new contacts...."anything that looks like a
callsign".
Also need something to slice & dice the logbook data for contest
reports.
- Jerry KF6VB
On 2021-06-28 14:16, Michael Walker wrote:
> I agree with Jim on this one. :)
>
> Mike va3mw
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 4:55 AM Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, he SHOULD throw it away and learn modern logging software. Among
>> other things, that modern software can easily link computers from
>> multiple stations in a club setup. That's important, because each
>> station can see the other's log. We work QRP battery with a single K3,
>> and are often weak at the other end of the QSO. When logging computers
>> are linked, each station sees the QSOs we've already had on 20 (easier
>> copy) when we work them on 40, 80, and 15, so it's rare for them to
>> need
>> a fill if they are networked.
>>
>> It was disappointing to see that so many hams fail to continue their
>> ongoing education by learning new stuff, like modern logging software.
>> I'll be 80 in the fall, a ham since age 15, BSEE in 1964, and I still
>> try to learn new stuff every day. BTW - I do LOTS of FT8 and MSK144 on
>> 6M and FT8 on 160M, our QRP CW operation was all CW. W6JTI and I made
>> a
>> combined 680 QSOs. I've been using K1JT's digital modes for more than
>> ten years. So have a bunch of OTs I know. And when I was taking a
>> break
>> from CW, I worked FT8 on 6M (along with K6EU, our primary VHF op) to
>> pass out our rare grid (CM86). That VHF station ran high power and was
>> not part of our QRP FD operation from a contesting point of view. Tom
>> and I were simply lighting up our rare grid.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>> On 6/28/2021 1:34 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft wrote:
>> > One of the hams running our CW tent used his old favorite logging
>> program and brought along an old DOS computer to run it??. I can?t
>> remember
>> the name of the program but it worked well and he racked up a good
>> score.
>> Everyone was shocked to see the old big DOS computer sitting on the
>> table.
>> I guess one should never throw anything away that works and you are
>> comfortable with it.
>>
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 15:04:34 -0700
From: Rick NK7I <rick.nk7i at gmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don?t throw those old DOS computers away
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The simplest answer before the fight/discussion begins anew:? The one
that works the best for YOUR needs.
Generic may not do contests well; contesting logbooks may not do every
day well.
Some play well with other code; some play well with hardware; some don't
do either.
Some cost money; some are free.? Some are just crap-ware...
It's a struggle; just fill your needs.
73,
Rick NK7I (specifically NOT saying which one I use)
On 6/28/2021 2:54 PM, jerry wrote:
> So what's the hot ticket nowadays on logging software?
>
> ?I rolled my own, but it's
> quite primitive.? It runs on my Linux server and I access it via a web
> browser.? It gives me a pair of clocks at the top - local and UTC.? At
> the bottom, there's a big text window for copying code. In between -
> the list of contacts, plus a form for entering a new one.? The current
> UTC timestamp is automatically put in.? The latest contact has a
> button for ending it - and putting in the "end" UTC timestamp.
>
> ? It was easy to do that, because I already wrote substantial software
> in support of my business, and the infrastructure was all there -
> webserver, SSL, libraries for linking multiple pages, templates etc etc.
>
> ?? I'm sure that other people have written logging software with
> features I can barely imagine.
>
> ? Right now, I'm thinking of having it automatically nominate text in
> the CW copy window for new contacts...."anything that looks like a
> callsign".
>
> ? Also need something to slice & dice the logbook data for contest
> reports.
>
> ??????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 15:07:23 -0700
From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don?t throw those old DOS computers away
Message-ID: <95518288-d3ea-afe5-0aad-173bb32efeac at coho.net>
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Hi Jerry,
?? Good luck with extending your own user interface.? I am sure there
are contest logs listed somewhere on the web.? Not only would you get a
list of CW ops who contest, you could also grab their details to fill in
more fields.? Then scan that list with the partial call you copied.?
Even brute force search algorithms would be fine.
?? As far as slicing and dicing data Perl, awk, and sed can do wonders
with extracting, and formatting individual fields.? Plus they are
already available on your OS.? A two line script with any of them can do
what you want.
?? The killer app for contesters seems to be N1MM.? I think you will
have more fun writing your own since you know exactly what you need and
what you like.? Building your own app should not be shamed.
??? GL & 73,
????? Kevin.? KD5ONS
On 6/28/21 2:54 PM, jerry wrote:
> So what's the hot ticket nowadays on logging software?
>
> ?I rolled my own, but it's
> quite primitive.? It runs on my Linux server and I access it via a web
> browser.? It gives me a pair of clocks at the top - local and UTC.? At
> the bottom, there's a big text window for copying code. In between -
> the list of contacts, plus a form for entering a new one.? The current
> UTC timestamp is automatically put in.? The latest contact has a
> button for ending it - and putting in the "end" UTC timestamp.
>
> ? It was easy to do that, because I already wrote substantial software
> in support of my business, and the infrastructure was all there -
> webserver, SSL, libraries for linking multiple pages, templates etc etc.
>
> ?? I'm sure that other people have written logging software with
> features I can barely imagine.
>
> ? Right now, I'm thinking of having it automatically nominate text in
> the CW copy window for new contacts...."anything that looks like a
> callsign".
>
> ? Also need something to slice & dice the logbook data for contest
> reports.
>
> ??????????????? - Jerry KF6VB
>
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> On 2021-06-28 14:16, Michael Walker wrote:
>> I agree with Jim on this one.? :)
>>
>> Mike va3mw
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 4:55 AM Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, he SHOULD throw it away and learn modern logging software. Among
>>> other things, that modern software can easily link computers from
>>> multiple stations in a club setup. That's important, because each
>>> station can see the other's log. We work QRP battery with a single K3,
>>> and are often weak at the other end of the QSO. When logging computers
>>> are linked, each station sees the QSOs we've already had on 20 (easier
>>> copy) when we work them on 40, 80, and 15, so it's rare for them to
>>> need
>>> a fill if they are networked.
>>>
>>> It was disappointing to see that so many hams fail to continue their
>>> ongoing education by learning new stuff, like modern logging software.
>>> I'll be 80 in the fall, a ham since age 15, BSEE in 1964, and I still
>>> try to learn new stuff every day. BTW - I do LOTS of FT8 and MSK144 on
>>> 6M and FT8 on 160M, our QRP CW operation was all CW. W6JTI and I made a
>>> combined 680 QSOs. I've been using K1JT's digital modes for more than
>>> ten years. So have a bunch of OTs I know. And when I was taking a break
>>> from CW, I worked FT8 on 6M (along with K6EU, our primary VHF op) to
>>> pass out our rare grid (CM86). That VHF station ran high power and was
>>> not part of our QRP FD operation from a contesting point of view. Tom
>>> and I were simply lighting up our rare grid.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>>
>>> On 6/28/2021 1:34 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft wrote:
>>> > One of the hams running our CW tent used his old favorite logging
>>> program and brought along an old DOS computer to run it??. I can?t
>>> remember
>>> the name of the program but it worked well and he racked up a good
>>> score.
>>> Everyone was shocked to see the old big DOS computer sitting on the
>>> table.
>>> I guess one should never throw anything away that works and you are
>>> comfortable with it.
>>>
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