[Elecraft] Are there any "bad radios"?

[Hal Massey]

Aren’t the radios inanimate objects?  Therefore it must be the operators that are accountable.

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 12:49, David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm not ignoring that at all, and I don't know what in my post makes you think I am.    I've been in lots of contests where the operator is either unwittingly or intentionally putting trash on the band (there are hams on the Contesting reflector who have publicly admitted intentionally creating clicks to give themselves more elbow room), but it doesn't change the fact that there are also some pretty poor transmitters out there that were purchased by people who either didn't know it or didn't care.
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> Dave  AB7E
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> On 6/14/2021 8:46 AM, Hal Massey wrote:
>> You may be ignoring the fact that there are far more bad operators than bad radios...
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>>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 14:26, David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com <mailto:ab7echo at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> I think you're ignoring that what might not be "bad" for the user could still be bad for everyone else.
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>>> In my opinion, poorly designed radios shouldn't be supported by the user base, period ... and that includes the people who make recommendations.
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>>> Dave  AB7E
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>>> On 6/13/2021 12:10 PM, Geoffrey Feldman wrote:
>>>> Having worked retailing amateur radios, people often ask which is best.
>>>> Also often they are absolutely convinced they know the answer because their
>>>> Elmer said so.   When I review what someone actually wants to do with the
>>>> hobby and get a sense of their budget, I can advise them.  A new Ham often
>>>> hasn't a clear idea what they want to do.  Knowing most of what is
>>>> available, there are no truly "bad radios" that would be unsuited for anyone
>>>> at all.  Not everyone can afford "the best".  Not everyone can use the best.
>>>> New operators may not even be able to manage a ton of fancier features. New
>>>> Hams may not know there is more to the hobby than whatever their Elmer has
>>>> locked on to (20+ years ago).   Life in an HOA or a city with much RFI
>>>> directs from most expensive and top of the line towards something portable.
>>>> The visibility provided by  a Pan Adapter function is especially important.
>>>> Personally I have a KX3, PX3, KXPA100.  I also own an IC 7300.  My
>>>> recommendations at work would tend to what I can sell of course.  If someone
>>>> knows what they want, they buy it.   I find too that upselling the radio is
>>>> not productive either.  Once someone has a radio they will need antennas,
>>>> feed lines, maybe a tuner, wire, rope, books, power poles, antenna analyzer
>>>> - all that stuff is the really great stuff J  Also, if someone gets a lot of
>>>> books, they will learn other aspects of the hobby and  get another radio and
>>>> the cycle repeats.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Geoff
>>>> 
>>>> W1GCF
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