[Elecraft] Gurus
Dave
dave at nk7z.net
Thu Jun 10 14:50:33 EDT 2021
Hi Julia,
Now I am confused... I quoted the text I was responding to, then
referenced that quote... Your reply included the quoted text and my
reference to it.
In any case I was replying to Gwen's response at 6:03 PM, quoted here,
in my initial response, and in your response...
Here it is broken out from the quot mess:
On 6/9/21 6:03 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
It wasn't about the operator, it was about the hardware.
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 6/10/21 11:30 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote:
> I'm confused, I don't see any quoted text, unless you meant just "dirty
> transmitter". Whose post were you responding to?
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 14:26 Dave <dave at nk7z.net <mailto:dave at nk7z.net>>
> wrote:
>
> My response was regarding the post talking about operators, see quoted
> text quote in my response.
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 6/9/21 6:03 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
> > It wasn't about the operator, it was about the hardware. I talked
> to the
> > ham involved, and he's a nice enough bloke. I have no beef with him.
> >
> > My antennas are, unfortunately, not designed with a useful null.
> I have an
> > end feed W3EDP style that works very well, and a Comet CHA-250B
> vertical.
> > Neither can reasonably be pointed to attenuate the signal.
> >
> > Gwen, NG3P
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 8:51 PM Dave <dave at nk7z.net
> <mailto:dave at nk7z.net>> wrote:
> >
> >> I must respectfully disagree sir...
> >>
> >> The ordinary ham should be able to tell when his/her rig is out
> of spec.
> >> The ordinary ham should be able to operate his/her rig correctly.
> >> That is just no longer the case. There are a lot of folks out there
> >> that don't even know how a repeater works at the most basic of
> levels.
> >> They are operating HF rigs with no understanding of how they
> work, and
> >> no understanding of what limits they need to maintain.
> >>
> >> They create a mess on the air, and should be told about it.
> Nicely, but
> >> told non the less. It is far better to have a fellow ham tell
> you you
> >> have an issue, than have the FCC tell you...
> >>
> >> Speaking of the FCC, I don't remember the FCC turning over
> >> responsibility for signal quality to the manufactures of radios,
> >> absolving the operator of all responsibility... It is the
> operators job
> >> to make sure he/she is operating their radio correctly, and within
> >> tolerance, period, end of discussion, the operator is responsible.
> >>
> >> If he/she can not tell there is a problem, than that ham should
> not be
> >> allowed to transmit...
> >>
> >> There are dirty transmitters all over, and they meet FCC
> specs... How
> >> can that be you might ask yourself?
> >>
> >> In a lot of cases, the operator is not knowledgeable in how to
> drive the
> >> transmitter properly, or that low voltages feeding the
> transmitter can
> >> cause issues, or that triggering ALC in FT8 causes issues, there
> are any
> >> number of settings the Amateur can screw up, and the rig meets FCC
> >> specs...
> >>
> >> So no, it is not "out of line" to let someone know their
> transmitter is
> >> spraying crap.
> >>
> >> On 6/9/21 5:02 PM, Richards wrote:
> >>> Anyone condemning other hams for using "dirty transmitters" is
> simply
> >>> out of line.
> >>>
> >>> The ordinary ham is NOT an Electrical Engineer and he buys his
> rig in
> >>> good faith, believing it passed FCC and other engineering
> standards. He
> >>> uses it in good faith, assuming it is OK and not causing
> problems. But
> >>> then, a few self-appointed Frequency Cops condemn the poor
> operator as a
> >>> bad citizen for using a "dirty transmitter" as if the operator is
> >>> somehow to blame. I have worked a lot of contests with crowded
> >>> conditions in a large metropolitan area, and nobody has ever whined
> >>> about any of this, notwithstanding a couple of self-appointed
> experts
> >>> living in the mountains of CA and CO claim it is a horrible
> epidemic.
> >>> Besides, if this was such big problem why is it such a new, current
> >>> topic? Supposedly, all those old rigs have been noisy all the
> time. I
> >>> suspect it is topical only because they have nothing else to
> talk about.
> >>>
> >>> Well, even if it is a problem, there is no place for this sort of
> >>> personal attack in ham radio, AND IT IS SIMPLY WRONG TO BLAME THE
> >>> OPERATOR for how his rig works. For most ops, ham radio is just a
> >>> hobby and they are entitled to expect their radios will work right.
> >>> Blaming the operator is simply out of line. K8JHR
> >>>
> >>>
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