[Elecraft] Gurus

Dave dave at nk7z.net
Thu Jun 10 14:25:22 EDT 2021


My response was regarding the post talking about operators, see quoted 
text quote in my response.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 6/9/21 6:03 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
> It wasn't about the operator, it was about the hardware. I talked to the
> ham involved, and he's a nice enough bloke. I have no beef with him.
> 
> My antennas are, unfortunately, not designed with a useful null. I have an
> end feed W3EDP style that works very well, and a Comet CHA-250B vertical.
> Neither can reasonably be pointed to attenuate the signal.
> 
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 8:51 PM Dave <dave at nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
>> I must respectfully disagree sir...
>>
>> The ordinary ham should be able to tell when his/her rig is out of spec.
>>    The ordinary ham should be able to operate his/her rig correctly.
>> That is just no longer the case.  There are a lot of folks out there
>> that don't even know how a repeater works at the most basic of levels.
>> They are operating HF rigs with no understanding of how they work, and
>> no understanding of what limits they need to maintain.
>>
>> They create a mess on the air, and should be told about it.  Nicely, but
>> told non the less.  It is far better to have a fellow ham tell you you
>> have an issue, than have the FCC tell you...
>>
>> Speaking of the FCC, I don't remember the FCC turning over
>> responsibility for signal quality to the manufactures of radios,
>> absolving the operator of all responsibility...  It is the operators job
>> to make sure he/she is operating their radio correctly, and within
>> tolerance, period, end of discussion, the operator is responsible.
>>
>> If he/she can not tell there is a problem, than that ham should not be
>> allowed to transmit...
>>
>> There are dirty transmitters all over, and they meet FCC specs...  How
>> can that be you might ask yourself?
>>
>> In a lot of cases, the operator is not knowledgeable in how to drive the
>> transmitter properly, or that low voltages feeding the transmitter can
>> cause issues, or that triggering ALC in FT8 causes issues, there are any
>> number of settings the Amateur can screw up, and the rig meets FCC
>> specs...
>>
>> So no, it is not "out of line" to let someone know their transmitter is
>> spraying crap.
>>
>> On 6/9/21 5:02 PM, Richards wrote:
>>> Anyone condemning other hams for using "dirty transmitters"  is simply
>>> out of line.
>>>
>>> The ordinary ham is NOT an Electrical Engineer and he buys his rig in
>>> good faith, believing it passed FCC and other engineering standards. He
>>> uses it in good faith, assuming it is OK and not causing problems. But
>>> then, a few self-appointed Frequency Cops condemn the poor operator as a
>>> bad citizen for using a "dirty transmitter"  as if the operator is
>>> somehow to blame.   I have worked a lot of contests with crowded
>>> conditions in a large metropolitan area, and nobody has ever whined
>>> about any of this, notwithstanding a couple of self-appointed experts
>>> living in the mountains of CA and CO claim it is a horrible epidemic.
>>> Besides, if this was such big problem why is it such a new, current
>>> topic? Supposedly, all those old rigs have been noisy all the time.   I
>>> suspect it is topical only because they have nothing else to talk about.
>>>
>>> Well, even if it is a problem, there is no place for this sort of
>>> personal attack in ham radio, AND IT IS SIMPLY WRONG TO BLAME THE
>>> OPERATOR for how his rig works.   For most ops, ham radio is just a
>>> hobby and they are entitled to expect their radios will work right.
>>> Blaming the operator is simply out of line.   K8JHR
>>>
>>>
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