[Elecraft] Giving Up

Tue Jun 8 06:00:29 EDT 2021

I am afraid K4HD is going to be even more expensive and when compared 
performance/features/price ratio with FTDX101 that has the same 
architecture Elecraft K4HD does not look to me like a good investment. I 
will keep my K3 and KX3 though and will possibly consider FTDX10 which 
sounds like a good value for money. If only Yaesu did not have those 
tiny difficult to find and deal with connectors. I have also got used to 
at least 3 audio output ports on K3 with own AF amplifier each. UI on 
Elecraft radios is sure much better thought out but the price tag 
overweight.

73, Igor UA9CDC

08.06.2021 11:53, George Thornton пишет:
> I agree that the price for the K4 has to be compared with the fully loaded K3 plus P3.   In that respect it is not overpriced.
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> I don't think we should make too much of the Sherwood Engineering test data at this point.    I would suspect it would be hard for the human ear to tell the difference among the top eight or ten models on the list.  I also think that when the K4 HD unit is out you might see higher results.  I suspect direct sampling technology is not as capable as superhet when it comes to separating out closely spaced signals which is what Sherwood Engineering uses to rank radios.
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> Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 11:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Giving Up
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> GM Doug,    A fully loaded K3 P3 was always dear.   It rivalled the 7850 price but did not reach the cost while arguably being the better radio.   The fully loaded K4 is less expensive to my reckoning in todays money than the loaded K3 with P3 and physically smaller.    I suspect it may not be so much superior to the K3 in RF terms except that it is in the important area of ergonomics.   The wait has been excessive for sure.Your reasonng is understandable.   Hope the next radio is great.   Meanwhile keep enjoying ham radio.I will keep waiting.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy
> -------- Original message --------From: Doug Person <doug at k0dxv.com> Date: 08/06/2021  03:34  (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Giving Up Sadly, I've decided to give up waiting for the K4. I'm probably far down the list anyway. Their are numerous reason for this decision. First, there is the cost. With a tuner the price is $4600 making it one of the most expensive transceivers on the market. I fully realize that the K4 is feature rich and extremely well designed. I would never take anything away from Elecraft's engineering ability. The K3 set a new standard of performance that made the other manufacturers substantially up their game - which they did. But is the K4 going to do the same thing the K3 did? To me, it doesn't look like it. Innovative in some, perhaps many ways - yes. A new trend setter? I'm not so sure. When the K3 came out it was very competitively priced. I'm not sure I would describe the K4 with the same words. It is unquestionably an expensive radio. At this point the price/performance just isn't there for me. I sold my very complete K3 station several years ago in anticipation of the K4. But now the waiting has left me thinking about how much I'm willing to invest and whether or not another brand whose transceivers are as much as $1500 less and whose performance seems quite impressive will meet my needs. After literally several years of contemplation I conclude that, for me, the K4 is not worth the price. $3600 (with the tuner since every other significant radio includes one) would seem competitive and I would jump on it at this price. But as it is? Can't see doing it. I apologize if feelings are hurt or I've made anyone angry. I'm leaving the list since I'm no longer waiting patiently for what we once called Vaporware.Good luck to everyone on their current and future K4s.Doug -- K0DXV______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie ______________________________________________________________
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