[Elecraft] Subject: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today [Thread CLOSED]

Mon Jan 18 22:19:58 EST 2021

As per my other post, this way OT thread is also closed.

73,
Eric
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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 4:01 PM, James Driskell <jmdriskell at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> It's not illegal to protest whatever as long as one doesn't participate in criminal acts under the banner of the protest.  Therefore, coordinating a protest using radio communications probably isn't a violation in itself.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim Driskell
> W7OWI
> 
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> To: Ted Edwards W3TB <w3tb.ted at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
> 
> Early 70s there was a Student Information net used to coordinate protests against the Vietnam War....colleges nationwide used it.....
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:59 PM, Ted Edwards W3TB <w3tb.ted at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When I was in college during anti-war protests about 50 years ago,
>> protesters tried to pressure me to use the college station to coordinate
>> with other colleges.
>> 
>> They threatened to break into the station and do it themselves with my
>> callsign.  I disconnected antennas, but I also knew that none of them knew
>> anything about it to do anything but break the equipment.
>> 
>> And nothing came of it.
>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 14:31 Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2021-01-18 2:55 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For a while, the FCC declined to take action against criminal (like
>>>> "convicted") violators if the crime did not involve
>>>> telecommunications law.  I don't remember the actual case that Doug
>>>> mentioned other than it wasn't one of mine :)
>>> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ (sk).
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2021-01-18 2:55 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>>>>> On 1/18/2021 10:36 AM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There was a case a while back where a ham had his license pulled
>>>>> because he was convicted of telecom fraud. IIRC, the FCC said it was
>>>>> evidence that he was unwilling to follow the rules. And I think it
>>>>> only came visible because he protested, or filed to get it reinstated.
>>>>> I suspect Phil can recall more details. It's been a
>>>>> while.
>>>> 
>>>> For a while, the FCC declined to take action against criminal (like
>>>> "convicted") violators if the crime did not involve telecommunications
>>>> law.  I don't remember the actual case that Doug mentioned other than it
>>>> wasn't one of mine :)  but I do remember that there have been several.
>>>> For other violators, there is a provision in the Communications Act that
>>>> requires the FCC to determine if the conviction bears on the moral
>>>> qualifications to become or remain an FCC license holder, and there are
>>>> provisions in other statutes that bar someone from holding or receiving
>>>> a license if in arrears to court-mandated payments..
>>>> 
>>>> As far as the present situation, what the notice said (in plain
>>>> language) is using a radio while planning or committing a crime is a
>>>> crime itself. Has nothing to do with the content as long as it does not
>>>> involve planning or committing that criminal act.  Yes, there are limits
>>>> to First-Amendment-protected speech.   (Pardon me if I'm teaching
>>>> first-year Constitutional Law.)
>>>> 
>>>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>>>> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
>>>> 
>>>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
>>>> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
>>>> 
>>> 
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>> 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW
>> 
>> and thinking about operating CW:
>> "Do today what others won't,
>> so you can do tomorrow what others can't."
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