[Elecraft] KPA-1500 SWR fault above 700-800 watts on 160m
Jim Brown
jim at audiosystemsgroup.com
Thu Sep 3 12:05:00 EDT 2020
On 9/3/2020 4:21 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:
> I use K9YC-style chokes, eg several turns on 240-31 core, or, if it's really bad, several turns on several cores using 7" diameter turns (from memory, check his cookbook). I'm told this is cheaper and better than anything you can buy. Of course I know nothing about your layout but it has always helped me to ground the coax before it comes into the house.
Hi David,
Note that, based on extensive research in 2017 and 2018, I no longer
recommend the older style of choke that you're using, and I revised the
RFI tutorial to reflect that. I published both that revision and the new
Cookbook late in 2018.
k9yc.com/publish.htm
The problem with the older style chokes (multiple turns of coax on
multiple #31 cores) is that 1) any "scrambling" of the winding reduces
choking impedance, and 2) variations in winding style (diameter,
spacing) make the chokes non-repeatable.
The new choke designs ARE repeatable, AND take into account the wide
manufacturing tolerances of all ferrite parts, which can significantly
affect the choking impedance and where the chokes are tuned. The work I
did in 2017 and 2018 included characterizing nearly 200 #31 cores
obtained from multiple vendors over about ten years, selecting cores at
the limits of those tolerances, winding and measuring hundreds of chokes
on those cores, tabulating the results, and making recommendations for
each band and each transmission line type based on worst case results
for each design. Chokes wound following the new 2018 Cookbook should
provide at least the specified response on any #31 core you buy. Note
that #31 mix is made ONLY by Fair-Rite.
Another point about measuring common mode current. As you have observed,
it varies along the line, simply because in the common mode circuit, the
feedline is part of the antenna, and both voltage and current vary along
the line conforming to wavelength relationships at the operating
frequency. A good choke forces a current minimum at the point where it
is inserted. How common mode current varies along the line depends on
the quality of the choke, the electrical length of the outer conductor
of the coax (VF~0.98), and how the shield is terminated on the other end
(grounded or floating using a link coupled tuner).
A choke is most useful at the antenna feedpoint (up in the air, or at
the feed end of a vertical or other long wire), which tends to minimize
common mode current all along the line, because it "disconnects" the
feedline from the antenna. A choke at any other point is FAR less
effective -- all it does force a current minimum at the point it is
inserted, leaving the feedline connected to the antenna, allowing common
mode current between the choke and the antenna, and coupling any noise
current to the antenna.
For this reason, the first choke in any system should ALWAYS be at the
antenna IF the antenna is matched to the feedline. The power handling of
my chokes are ONLY applicable if the feedline is matched at the point
where they are inserted. A choke inserted into a poorly matched or
un-matched line is much more likely to overheat and fail. Dissipation
(heating) is addressed in the 2018 Cookbook.
73, Jim K9YC
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