[Elecraft] [OT] Fires

[Steve Dyer W1SRD]

Can we please get back to Elecraft topics.

On 10/14/2020 20:39, Mike Short wrote:
> Years of mismanagement contribute to the fires. Forest Service and states
> have not culled dead trees, allow logging, and not done controlled burns to
> reduce the fuel. Building homes in canyons with Santa Ana winds also does
> not help. Until there is a serious change in how forests are managed, this
> will be a normal occurrence
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 22:06 David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think you have a skewed view of the situation, probably understandably
>> so given your own vulnerability to that fire.  I can find tons of media
>> information specifically on the Bobcat Fire with almost daily datelines
>> when I do a Google search, and I know from personal experience with
>> wildfires here in southern Arizona that agencies have to prioritize
>> literally on an hour by hour basis how and where they deploy scarce
>> resources.  Slurry bombers are about the only effective countermeasures
>> in rough terrain (and even then only partially), since sending fire
>> crews into those areas is pure and simple murder.
>>
>> Here where I live (dry grass, dry trees, hilly terrain) the aircraft
>> (slurry bombers, helicopter water drops) try to slow the fires while the
>> fire crews mostly just dig in their heels and try to save the homes ...
>> and there isn't much point in them doing so until the homes are actually
>> threatened.  The fire that whipped through this area in 2011 burned
>> EVERYTHING within about 50 feet of my home, but the fire crews wouldn't
>> back off and they saved the house.  If you can find the Google Earth
>> satellite pictures from July 2011 you can see what I mean (my .kml info
>> is available from QRZ.com page) ... everything is black except for a
>> cone where my house is at the pointed end of the cone.
>>
>> With 4 million acres on fire in California within a short period of time
>> I think it's unrealistic of you to think that there will ever be enough
>> resources in reserve to cover everything in a situation like that ... at
>> least not when you would like.
>>
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2020 1:52 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>> So I read not only K6XX's report, but the entire issue of the Jug.
>> http://nccc.cc/jug/2020/09sep2020.pdf .  I am completely floored by the
>> complete destruction of Bob's place. Bob, I don't know if you're a
>> believer, but I for one am praying for strength for you, my friend.
>>> My impression of the Bobcat fire here in Los Angeles, which got to
>> within 2 miles from me and is still burning 38 days later, is similar to
>> Bob's: fire agencies simply let it burn for days without any urgency
>> whatsoever, letting it advance into backyards in the northernmost reaches
>> of Arcadia and Monrovia before kicking into firefighting high gear at the
>> last possible second. In strangely similar fashion, the news media never
>> really reported with any energy on the Bobcat fire. I still can't
>> understand the almost total ignoring of this fire for so long. So I
>> resonated with Bob on this point, and for this reason I refute W6GJB's
>> claim that resources assigned to southern California deprived northern
>> California of the same. It seems that *nobody* had the resources they
>> needed. What a shame.
>>> Hang in there, Bob. Please let us know if you've started a gofundme page
>> or something like that.
>>> Al  W6LX
>>>
>>>
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