[Elecraft] Windows Needed

Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP k2vco.vic at gmail.com
Sat May 2 00:45:39 EDT 2020


Apple breaks it's OWN hardware when it wants you to buy a new computer. 
I have a Macbook Pro from 2009 which won't run the latest MacOS. The 
Macbook is still in very good condition, so I installed Ubuntu Linux on 
it. It's like a new computer.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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On 02/05/2020 2:45, M. George wrote:
> Ray, I'm sure you know this, but you are simply running each OS as a
> virtual machine using the Intel VT technology (not an Apple or Microsoft
> thing at all).  The reason you can't run the Mac OS on standard Intel PC
> hard ware is due to Apple's super irritating proprietary ROM etc...
> hardware signatures... trickery.  Apple goes to extreme lengths to ensure
> that their OS only will run on their hardware to lock you into buying their
> hardware to use their OS. Folks will hack and get older versions of the Mac
> OS working over time on non Apple PC hardware, but then a new Mac OS update
> comes out and it then breaks running their OS on non Mac / Apple hardware
> (constant cat and mouse game).  I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do
> that, but that's just what they do.  So yeah, you can run a Windows OS on
> your Mac hardware because #1, it's Intel based hardware and Apple finally
> adopted a standard intel based platform etc...years ago when they finally
> dumped the IBM Power PC cpu's and their terrible/horrible preemptive OS at
> the time (amen! it saved Apple!).  Jobs brought them back to the modern OS
> era by going down the Free BSD OS path, virtually saving them from
> bankruptcy. (not to mention Microsoft investing 100+ million in Apple back
> then to keep them alive)
> 
> So yeah, on your Mac / Apple PC hardware, if you can't live without the Mac
> OS and you are willing to pony up for the price of their hardware, you can
> still run the later versions of the Mac OS and also run virtual versions of
> Windows and or boot directly into Windows on your Mac hardware, because
> Microsoft doesn't lock their OS down to a specific manufactures Intel based
> PC hardware.  So don't thank Apple for running Windows on your Mac / Apple
> hardware, thank Microsoft for keeping their OS pretty much hardware
> independent and not forcing you to run their OS on one company's hardware!
> 
> Those of us that use Windows as their primary OS, do the same thing as
> you... you can virtualize and run multiple copies of Windows and other
> operating systems at the same time like Linux etc... we have been doing
> that for years of course and yes, we can run hacked versions of the Mac OS
> too if we want to continually fight Apple in their efforts to lock their
> Free BSD based OS release after release after release (serious irony that
> they used Free BSD in the beginning and still lock it to their hardware).
> 
> At the end of the day, it's nice to have options and for there to be
> multiple competitors to provide us as consumers with better options and
> lower prices due to that competition.  Let's all be glad that there are
> multiple consumer OS's out there so the companies compete against each
> other, not to mention the free versions of Linux too.  Options are good!
> It drives competition, innovation and competitive pricing for the masses.
> 
> Max NG7M


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