[Elecraft] Windows Needed

[W2xj]

1st- get my name right. 2nd- use a font I can read and 3rd- get your facts straight and lighten up. Take a pill.  

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> On May 1, 2020, at 8:30 PM, M. George <m.matthew.george at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I sent this direct to you... that is pure BS Ray, be glad I didn't embarrass you on the Elecraft list.  Can you even begin to demonstrate what you are claiming? No... you make a bald ass assertion and nothing more. The hardware is the same at the CPU and peripheral level in almost all cases.  iIt's no more secure than the man in the moon.  And yeah, that is a bald ass assertion too! :)
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> Max NG7M
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>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:27 PM W2xj <W2xj at w2xj.net> wrote:
>> Apple controls the hardware AND the software for a good reason. It just works. I can’t remember the last time anything crashed on my Mac. I am willing to spend money for top quality and I usually avoid hacks. 
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> > On May 1, 2020, at 7:51 PM, M. George <m.matthew.george at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Ray, I'm sure you know this, but you are simply running each OS as a
>> > virtual machine using the Intel VT technology (not an Apple or Microsoft
>> > thing at all).  The reason you can't run the Mac OS on standard Intel PC
>> > hard ware is due to Apple's super irritating proprietary ROM etc...
>> > hardware signatures... trickery.  Apple goes to extreme lengths to ensure
>> > that their OS only will run on their hardware to lock you into buying their
>> > hardware to use their OS. Folks will hack and get older versions of the Mac
>> > OS working over time on non Apple PC hardware, but then a new Mac OS update
>> > comes out and it then breaks running their OS on non Mac / Apple hardware
>> > (constant cat and mouse game).  I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do
>> > that, but that's just what they do.  So yeah, you can run a Windows OS on
>> > your Mac hardware because #1, it's Intel based hardware and Apple finally
>> > adopted a standard intel based platform etc...years ago when they finally
>> > dumped the IBM Power PC cpu's and their terrible/horrible preemptive OS at
>> > the time (amen! it saved Apple!).  Jobs brought them back to the modern OS
>> > era by going down the Free BSD OS path, virtually saving them from
>> > bankruptcy. (not to mention Microsoft investing 100+ million in Apple back
>> > then to keep them alive)
>> > 
>> > So yeah, on your Mac / Apple PC hardware, if you can't live without the Mac
>> > OS and you are willing to pony up for the price of their hardware, you can
>> > still run the later versions of the Mac OS and also run virtual versions of
>> > Windows and or boot directly into Windows on your Mac hardware, because
>> > Microsoft doesn't lock their OS down to a specific manufactures Intel based
>> > PC hardware.  So don't thank Apple for running Windows on your Mac / Apple
>> > hardware, thank Microsoft for keeping their OS pretty much hardware
>> > independent and not forcing you to run their OS on one company's hardware!
>> > 
>> > Those of us that use Windows as their primary OS, do the same thing as
>> > you... you can virtualize and run multiple copies of Windows and other
>> > operating systems at the same time like Linux etc... we have been doing
>> > that for years of course and yes, we can run hacked versions of the Mac OS
>> > too if we want to continually fight Apple in their efforts to lock their
>> > Free BSD based OS release after release after rele
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> M. George