[Elecraft] The Big Three... +1

Sun Mar 29 14:32:01 EDT 2020

Once upon a time there was a radio design that would be the LAST RADIO 
you ever needed... and its receiver design was way far ahead of then 
current "top 3 " designs.  No .... old Tenneessee Technical...  it was 
Ten Tec Orion  It was the 'first" to revert back to old "not triple 
conversion"  designs.    Another oldie was Squire Sanders ( check google 
)...lools like similar design....

Ten Tec had IT..... if ONLY they would have bothered to spend the bucks 
for a programmer to build a decent interface.  I had one on order, and 
drove down & visited the TenTec hamfest /factor tour and Orion Debut  
,,, the set was NOT in the tent as it was inside being checked out, it 
had "checked out" while being demonstrated.

I later cancelled my order , as was the employment of the receiver 
designer....   The receiver was GREAT , too bad the rest of the radio 
was not.

another leader that got lost.

bill/3

On 3/29/2020 1:09 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
> Charles,
>
>
>
> The most competitive contesters -- the subject of this thread -- will always
> gravitate to the highest performing radios, not to their favorite brand.
>
>
> The K3 design is dated, all of the other top manufacturers have introduced
> much higher performing SSB radios in recent years. The K3 was a
> revolutionary design when it was introduced many years ago, but no more.
>
>
> Hopefully the new K4 will change the game in Elecraft's favor once again,
> especially for the most competitive SSB operators.
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Charles Sells" <charles at sellsfamily.net>
> To: "K9FD" <merv.k9fd at gmail.com>
> Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:39:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...
>
> Merv,
>
> I am curious. If you think K3’s are “losers” then why are you on the Elecraft Reflector message board in the first place?
>
> 73
> Charles
> W4PPP
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2020, at 12:26 PM, K9FD <merv.k9fd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree Paul, and my comment was to play the stats in jest.
>
> when the glass is half full you can see it from both sides,
>
> I did that to stir the Elecraft kool aide crew.
>
> Having contested many many years in my past life, I dont own
> 3 - K3 radios because they are losers, and nope I am not in the
> class of any one who qualifies for WRTC. not even close,
> and at 75 I am not progressing any longer, I am on the slipping
> side of downhill.
>
> 73 Merv K9FD
>> Merv
>>
>> Now we entering the arena of stats can tell you whatever you want them to tell you!
>>
>> In fairness only one of the top teams was a US team (I think) and 3 of the top 15 were US. Maybe radio choice for the Europeans is more to do with ICOM et al possibly having a more direct sales and support presence in EU versus Elecraft which is via local distributors and possibly requiring the gear to return to Cal for repair. Just a guess ....
>>
>> I think the WRTC leader role for the Boston/NE one had more US teams placing. I’m sure a story exists around home team advantage.
>>
>> I can only reiterate that anyone who participates in WRTC has to be pretty awesome and I wish I had 1% of their skills!!
>>
>> Stats are fun.
>>
>> Paul Gacek
>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 8:50 AM, K9FD <merv.k9fd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> SO lets see, we are saying that 50 percent used Elecraft, and out of the top 3 no one did,
>>> and most who used Elecraft were in the bottom.
>>> So was it the radio or the operator?
>>> If you look at it from one point of view, loosers used Elecraft..
>>>
>>> Merv K9FD, and I own 3 - k3 radios so not biased.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wasn't my subject line. But I'll see your four and raise it to five: Elecraft, Flex, Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu.
>>>>
>>>> Wes N7WS
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/29/2020 6:55 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
>>>>> I find you mention the big 3, but it is really the big 4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike va3mw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:28 AM Wes <wes_n7ws at triconet.org <mailto:wes_n7ws at triconet.org>> wrote:
>>>>> FWIW. I took a cursory look at the top 10 to see what they were using.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to get to 5th place to find a pair of K3s. Sixth and 7th places use
>>>>> one K3 and something else for the second radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> So four out of 20 radios were K3s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also of interest 6 out of 10 used WinTest with 4 using N1MM+.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wes N7WS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/29/2020 2:50 AM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>>> If you follow the link you can see what radios the 50+ WRTC 2018
>>>>> participant teams used.
>>>>>> Lots of K3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wrtc2018.de/competition/finalscores.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> W6PNG/M0SNA
>>>>>> www.nomadic.blog
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