[Elecraft] K4 on AM

Grant Youngman ghyoungman at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 19:04:41 EST 2020


Here we go. It just never ends.  

I apologize to the list for asking what is apparently a stupid, ignorant, unschooled, and ham-immoral question. Clearly beyond the bounds of “good amateur practice”.  FWIW, I have also been subjected to multiple private emails implying the same, for which I thave privately taken  umbrage.  THIS IS NOT NECESSARY — from anyone.  It was just a question!

I will NEVER ask another question about AM or bandwidth on this list.   I bow to your collective excellence.   I raise my arm in the appropriate salute.

Folks, this is just beyond the pale :-(   I asked one simple question.  I got an answer from Elecraft, and I’m happy with that,  Why not just STFU.

I hope Eric has the sanity to close this thread.  I’m out … and will privately and hopefully await the performance of the K4 in this regard.

Grant NQ5T



> On Mar 2, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Charlie T <pincon at erols.com> wrote:
> 
> I think he "may" be confusing the high audio limit with the resulting 2X bandwidth.
> 
> 6kHz transmit bandwidth is obviously NOT the result of 6 KHz audio.
> 
> However, it is easy to get mixed up on this.
> 
> Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Rose
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 4:30 PM
> To: David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 on AM
> 
> Well said, Dave
> 
> 73
> 
> K0PP
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 14:23 David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Well, when a minority few seem to think that they should be special 
>> enough to use far more bandwidth than the rest of us do, then I'd say 
>> the horse isn't dead yet.  If everyone ran AM that wide that the bands 
>> would sound horrible.  If that isn't a good enough definition of 
>> presumed entitlement I don't know what is.
>> 
>> Why Elecraft is willing to enable people to use 10 KHz of bandwidth 
>> for no good communication reason is beyond me.  It would certainly 
>> make me think thrice about supporting a K4.
>> 
>> And Joe didn't bring up the subject ... you and W2XJ did.
>> 
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/2/2020 1:13 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>>> smh … :-(
>>> 
>>> Why did I know this would happen?  Do we really have to keep beating
>> this same tired horse? Really?
>>> 
>>> Grant NQ5T
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2020-03-02 11:34 AM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>>>>> A maximum around 6 KHz would be better,
>>>> Audio response greater than 3 KHz is *never* appropriate for 
>>>> amateur radio.  Amateur radio is, after all, a communications 
>>>> service not an entertainment medium.
>>>> 
>>>> As a certain FCC official said in a hamfest forum a few  years ago, 
>>>> "if you want more than 3 KHz, get a *BROADCAST* license."
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>> 
>> 
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