[Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

[Tom Doligalski]

The P3 is quite useful to an NTS NCS. I just called the Carolinas Net (CN) and was very pleased to see where I could send folks down 2 (while I had folks up 2).  Things have got much more difficult with the digital modes!

Tom W4KX

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> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> I eavesdrop on the 80 m traffic nets occasionally. Impressive level of efficiency and skill among the ops. Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
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>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tom Doligalski <w4kx at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wayne!
>> 
>> I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. Thanks so much!
>> 
>> I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 
>> 
>> 50 years of cw traffic!
>> 
>> Tom W4KX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
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>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi Tom,
>>> 
>>> On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
>>> 
>>> There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have to update a synth between TX and RX.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
>>>> 
>>>> Tom W4KX
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad 
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>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. Itwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspaces    Now that just doesn't work with my brain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and does  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the same style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above certain points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to stimulate my old slow brain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>>>>> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that evening.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Al  W6LX
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical enough.
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