[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

Rick NK7I rick.nk7i at gmail.com
Sun Jul 26 18:38:23 EDT 2020


The reading I've done says only one radial is required; that the 
'favoring' in the direction of the radial is not enough to be worried 
about; that there is no cancellation from opposing (or just more) 
radials.  I have used a single radial ground plane and found this to be 
true (at 6' over dirt on 80M).  It favors a morning net 800 miles away, 
yet worked DX in any other direction easily (then I moved to a rotating 
dipole at 60' which beats it out).  That ground plane easily beat out a 
horizontal dipole I used before them all (fixed, in the 'wrong' angle 
because of tree location).

Both the radiator and radial are tuned (equally), but the angle of 
difference from dipole to the traditional 90 deg ground plane will cause 
the resistance to vary (roughly 72 ohms as a dipole, dropping to ~50 
ohms when at 90 degrees),  So if another angle is chosen (inverted Y), 
to match a 50 ohm feedline (to have a 1:1 SWR), the element lengths are 
adjusted equally until that match is made; altering the resonance of the 
wires (maximum transfer of energy).  And inverted Y antenna would be 
between that 50-72 ohm range, still acceptably low SWR to not mess with.

Which again, is not a significant variance, so put it up, try it out and 
compare to other antennas.  Wire is cheap enough to play with and try 
things out.

Modeling will demonstrate the pattern and 'take off' angles quite 
clearly; reality is often different because of local objects, ground 
resistance, height...

Don't forget to add a common mode current choke at the feed.

73,
Rick NK7I



On 7/26/2020 11:57 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Fred,
>
> That would be correct if they are oriented at 180 degrees from each 
> other so as to cancel the horizontal radiation.  Elevated radials must 
> be tuned to be effective, but only 2 are needed.  How much tuning will 
> depend on the height above ground.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/26/2020 2:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> Ground Plane?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 7/25/2020 8:20 PM, kevinr wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    An antenna design is stuck in my head.  It consists of three 
>>> legs, each 1/4 wavelength long.  One leg is vertical while the two 
>>> radials are 120 degrees below it.  The two radials are connected 
>>> electrically while the vertical leg is fed separately.  If it had 
>>> more radials it would be called a 1/4 wave vertical.  But the one 
>>> stuck in my head has elevated radials and only two of them.  I 
>>> cannot remember what this antenna is called.  I know 'inverted Y 
>>> antenna' doesn't work as a search term.  Does anyone know what this 
>>> is usually called so I can use a better search string?  The low take 
>>> off angle would be nice.  It looks like a 20 or 40 meter version 
>>> would be easy to build and raise.
>>
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