From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  1 00:17:28 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 00:17:28 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Terminal window for CW
In-Reply-To: <f55be119-4ccf-29bd-ea33-3d3b98522ea4@qrp4fun.de>
References: <B174AE6C-AE5B-4AF3-8A90-BAC9945D57BC@gmail.com>
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	<7e2bbfd3-dabf-7565-b849-846c631ddd24@bates.edu>
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Ingo and all,

The characters entered with the keyboard will be perfectly formed,
If entered via paddles, bug ot hand key, they may not be perfectly 
formed and may not be decoded properly.
This is a tool that can be used to practice your sending.

73 and HNY,
Don W3FPR

On 12/31/2019 7:48 PM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:
> Hello David,
> 
>> I'm enjoying and getting a lot out of our CW discussion.?? I've tried 
>> to use the KX3 uUtility for practice sending CW.
>>
>> p. 60 of Fred Cady's big, excellent Elecraft KX-Line book says I 
>> shouldbe able to use the Terminal window of the Utility to display the 
>> text of the CW I'm sending, but I've never been able to get it to work.

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Jan  1 09:19:37 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 08:19:37 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update
Message-ID: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>

Now is the time to use the Elecraft K3 Utility to update the clock and 
calendar on your K3 or K3S.??? Open the K3 Utility application, select 
the Configuration tab and then tap the Set K3 Date and Time bar.??? This 
will set the K3 to the computer which we all know is kept updated with a 
good time/date application.

Happy New Year to all.

73

Bob, K4TAX




From w0eb at cox.net  Wed Jan  1 09:47:24 2020
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 14:47:24 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update
In-Reply-To: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
References: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <em25ac7033-e16f-4d01-b73e-bd18be0a73fa@jimsdesktop-pc>

My RTC rolled over to 2020 at Midnite UTC (I have the clock set to UTC) 
and the clock was only 10 seconds fast.  I'm lucky my clock is pretty 
accurate.  That 10 second error was from when I first set it several 
years ago, shortly after I got my K3S.  The K3 I had before that was 
never very accurate and would lose 10 seconds a week.  This one 
surprised me.

Jim, W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; 
"Elecraft-K3 at groups.io" <Elecraft-K3 at groups.io>
Sent: 1/1/2020 8:19:37 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update

>Now is the time to use the Elecraft K3 Utility to update the clock and calendar on your K3 or K3S.    Open the K3 Utility application, select the Configuration tab and then tap the Set K3 Date and Time bar.    This will set the K3 to the computer which we all know is kept updated with a good time/date application.
>
>Happy New Year to all.
>
>73
>
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
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From K8UT at charter.net  Wed Jan  1 11:19:23 2020
From: K8UT at charter.net (Larry (K8UT))
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 16:19:23 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update
In-Reply-To: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
References: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <em87660a2b-3d5f-415e-9d48-05fe9e2fee3b@k8ut-pc>

Is there any way to open the com port to the radio at a specific baud 
rate, rather than the utility's baud rate trolling method? Trolling for 
port speed fails when using an intervening virtual port device.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; 
"Elecraft-K3 at groups.io" <Elecraft-K3 at groups.io>
Sent: 2020-01-01 09:19:37
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update

>Now is the time to use the Elecraft K3 Utility to update the clock and calendar on your K3 or K3S.    Open the K3 Utility application, select the Configuration tab and then tap the Set K3 Date and Time bar.    This will set the K3 to the computer which we all know is kept updated with a good time/date application.
>
>Happy New Year to all.
>
>73
>
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
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From k9ztv at socket.net  Wed Jan  1 14:26:40 2020
From: k9ztv at socket.net (K9ZTV)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:26:40 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update
In-Reply-To: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
References: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <E7BACDE3-FC7F-46AF-891D-BA51186C0379@socket.net>

... and if you don?t have ?a good time/date application,? synch your computer manually to WWV and then run the K3 utility.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



> On Jan 1, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> This will set the K3 to the computer which we all know is kept updated with a good time/date application.
> 


From radio at disseminator.net  Wed Jan  1 14:46:23 2020
From: radio at disseminator.net (Dave Erickson)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:46:23 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 New Years Surprise?
Message-ID: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>

Hey Guys,

The day is not over yet, wouldn't a New Years Day reveal be fun?

On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the 
built in display will have? I am in the market and all the other radios 
in this class seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most of those 
have the display outputs at the same very low resolutions.

Happy New Year to all.

-- 
Dave Erickson - k0dom


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  1 18:56:12 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 18:56:12 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Time Date Update
In-Reply-To: <em87660a2b-3d5f-415e-9d48-05fe9e2fee3b@k8ut-pc>
References: <49dff88f-2557-eb88-dfe3-409dab74a8fd@blomand.net>
	<em87660a2b-3d5f-415e-9d48-05fe9e2fee3b@k8ut-pc>
Message-ID: <ff010df4-42e9-b37f-7bf8-3f7cc16947d8@embarqmail.com>

K3 Utility should not be used through an intervening virtual port.
Instead close the virtual port and connect using the real COM port.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/1/2020 11:19 AM, Larry (K8UT) wrote:
> Is there any way to open the com port to the radio at a specific baud 
> rate, rather than the utility's baud rate trolling method? Trolling for 
> port speed fails when using an intervening virtual port device.
> 

From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  1 19:42:47 2020
From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 16:42:47 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] SKN: What a Long, Strange Trip...
Message-ID: <CAJSJeL0dbL7z05AKhGmVPe56JOqK=x5ns_Mgkf8AON4j0py2jQ@mail.gmail.com>

This year for SKN, I left the tube radios in their racks, and went with an
HW-8, KX1, K1, K2, and K3.  After just having watched the in-depth K4
interview with Eric at Elecraft's European Distributor, and having had a
personal tour of the K4 by Eric at Pacificon, my mind is blown.  Really
blown.  How far this tiny California company has come in 20 years is just
incredible.  Not to even mention the KX2 and KX3, and all the other stuff.

Well done, Elecraft, long may you thrive.

73 Eric WD6DBM

From km6cq at km6cq.com  Wed Jan  1 21:45:33 2020
From: km6cq at km6cq.com (Dan Baker)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 18:45:33 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Terminal window for CW
Message-ID: <CADH=N1vYEWhqWiLnUPrOU5pYbTE5Up-1hC704hd3Et3nTvZFCA@mail.gmail.com>

Don,
I think you just defined analog vs digital CW.

HNY, Dan KM6CQ

Ingo and all,







*The characters entered with the keyboard will be perfectly formed,If
entered via paddles, bug ot hand key, they may not be perfectly formed and
may not be decoded properly.This is a tool that can be used to practice
your sending.73 and HNY,Don W3FPR*

From na5n at zianet.com  Wed Jan  1 23:26:24 2020
From: na5n at zianet.com (na5n at zianet.com)
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 21:26:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SKN: What a Long, Strange Trip...
In-Reply-To: <CAJSJeL0dbL7z05AKhGmVPe56JOqK=x5ns_Mgkf8AON4j0py2jQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJSJeL0dbL7z05AKhGmVPe56JOqK=x5ns_Mgkf8AON4j0py2jQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200102042624.17522.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>

Eric Norris writes:

> How far this tiny California company has come in 20 years is just
> incredible.  Not to even mention the KX2 and KX3, and all the other stuff.

I worked a bunch of SKN stations with my KX2.  Among those QSOs included a  
Heathkit HW-101 and DX-40, a Drake TR7, and an ARC-5 transmitter.  They all  
had a distinctive hum and chirp that drifted about 1KHz down the band by  
the end of the QSO.  About ran out of RIT range.  Fun, and a nostalgic  
reminder what most rigs sounded like "back in the day."  How spoiled we are  
with today's rock solid rigs, stable DDS frequency control, sensitive  
receivers, and the benefits of SDR, filtering, IF shift, etc.  Not to  
mention no longer a sturdy table to contain your Collins S-line, power  
supplies, antenna tuners, etc.  Nobody would have imagined 30 years ago the  
performance and size of today's K3S, KX3 and KX2.  Elecraft has definitely  
led much of the innovation we now enjoy in our hobby.  Such kudos are  
indeed well deserved.

72, Paul NA5N

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jan  2 10:55:22 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 07:55:22 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT:  Australian fires
Message-ID: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>

Our thoughts go out to our Australian customers and their families, as well as the thousands of other Australians affected by wildfires. 

California, too, has seen record droughts and wildfires in recent years, so we can empathize. But the number of fires in VK as well as their wide geographical impact appears to dwarf ours. 

Wishing you better luck in the new year--

73,
Wayne
N6KR




From m0lep at hewett.org  Thu Jan  2 11:37:26 2020
From: m0lep at hewett.org (Rick M0LEP)
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 16:37:26 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT:  Australian fires
References: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <6bff.5e0e1c46.72dd3.m0lep@hewett.org>

A few days back I heard that the area burned so far during this fire 
season in Australia could best be measured in terms of the size of Wales 
or Belgium.

There are a fair few radio amateurs in VK putting their radio skills to 
work helping with the fire-fighting efforts.

Wishing them all the best of luck.

On Fri 03 Jan Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Our thoughts go out to our Australian customers and their families, as 
> well as the thousands of other Australians affected by wildfires.
> 
> California, too, has seen record droughts and wildfires in recent 
> years, so we can empathize. But the number of fires in VK as well as 
> their wide geographical impact appears to dwarf ours.
> 
> Wishing you better luck in the new year--
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR

-- 
73, Rick, M0LEP   (KX3 #3281)


From k9ma at sdellington.us  Thu Jan  2 11:45:59 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 10:45:59 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Australian fires
In-Reply-To: <6bff.5e0e1c46.72dd3.m0lep@hewett.org>
References: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
	<6bff.5e0e1c46.72dd3.m0lep@hewett.org>
Message-ID: <fcbbd4af-e9db-899a-1f6e-8fde3e1aaf42@sdellington.us>

In Australia, there are sheep stations the size of Belgium!

73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/2/2020 10:37, Rick M0LEP wrote:
> A few days back I heard that the area burned so far during this fire
> season in Australia could best be measured in terms of the size of Wales
> or Belgium.


-- 
Scott  K9MA

k9ma at sdellington.us


From mike at ve3yf.com  Thu Jan  2 12:11:47 2020
From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 17:11:47 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft]  KPA-500 Remote Program
In-Reply-To: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
Message-ID: <fc9569db-76f6-01db-6618-5cf4050de66f@ve3yf.com>

Hi:

Hopefully everyone had a good Christmas and Happy New Year.

Just curious FWIW, I just can't seem to get the KPA500 Remote program to 
work. I can get the KAT500 and the KPA1500 to work, but the KPA500 
refuses to load. It says "Unable to load specified amp driver".

I am using the latest version of remote software from the Elecraft site.

Any idea's would be greatly appreciated. Tnx.

-- 

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

_/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*


From dons at ieee.org  Thu Jan  2 14:18:45 2020
From: dons at ieee.org (Don Sayler)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:18:45 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KTCX03-1 txco installation
Message-ID: <002d01d5c1a1$744bfc90$5ce3f5b0$@ieee.org>

Hi.

 

I'm installing the 1ppm txco in my K3S.

 

I'm not sure I understand this part of the instructions:
"Place the rectangular insulator over the TCXO leads so it covers the bottom
of the oscillator module."

 

Does this mean that the black foam insulator goes between the TCXO and the
KREF3 board? Does the insulator go such that it is 'parallel' to the TCXO,
or at a right angle so the insulator sticks out a little on the sides? Do
the TCXO leads poke through the insulator?

 

I read the instructions before I ordered the part, and I thought that it
would become clear once I had the unit in my hands.

 

Thanks.

 

Don W7OXR

 


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Thu Jan  2 14:52:41 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:52:41 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KTCX03-1 txco installation
In-Reply-To: <002d01d5c1a1$744bfc90$5ce3f5b0$@ieee.org>
References: <002d01d5c1a1$744bfc90$5ce3f5b0$@ieee.org>
Message-ID: <b34e8065-9a33-5771-97d9-a8061c5da9af@embarqmail.com>

The black foam is only for protecting the pins during shipping - it is 
NOT the insulator that you want.

Look for a thin flat rectangular piece of plastic - that is the 
insulator that you want.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/2/2020 2:18 PM, Don Sayler wrote:
> Hi.
> 
>   
> 
> I'm installing the 1ppm txco in my K3S.
> 
>   
> 
> I'm not sure I understand this part of the instructions:
> "Place the rectangular insulator over the TCXO leads so it covers the bottom
> of the oscillator module."
> 
>   
> 
> Does this mean that the black foam insulator goes between the TCXO and the
> KREF3 board? Does the insulator go such that it is 'parallel' to the TCXO,
> or at a right angle so the insulator sticks out a little on the sides? Do
> the TCXO leads poke through the insulator?
> 
>   
> 
> I read the instructions before I ordered the part, and I thought that it
> would become clear once I had the unit in my hands.
> 

From dons at ieee.org  Thu Jan  2 19:17:35 2020
From: dons at ieee.org (Don Sayler)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 16:17:35 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KTCX03-1 txco installation
In-Reply-To: <002d01d5c1a1$744bfc90$5ce3f5b0$@ieee.org>
References: <002d01d5c1a1$744bfc90$5ce3f5b0$@ieee.org>
Message-ID: <005f01d5c1cb$337bf060$9a73d120$@ieee.org>

I got a few replies off-list, and the module is now in and working.

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Sayler
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 11:19 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KTCX03-1 txco installation

Hi.

 

I'm installing the 1ppm txco in my K3S.

 

I'm not sure I understand this part of the instructions:
"Place the rectangular insulator over the TCXO leads so it covers the bottom
of the oscillator module."

 

Does this mean that the black foam insulator goes between the TCXO and the
KREF3 board? Does the insulator go such that it is 'parallel' to the TCXO,
or at a right angle so the insulator sticks out a little on the sides? Do
the TCXO leads poke through the insulator?

 

I read the instructions before I ordered the part, and I thought that it
would become clear once I had the unit in my hands.

 

Thanks.

 

Don W7OXR

 

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From eric at elecraft.com  Thu Jan  2 19:23:09 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 16:23:09 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
Message-ID: <175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>

Hi Dave,

The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.

We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI compatible 
monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.

Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the 
external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same 
time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and waterfall 
display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/
---------

On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
> ...
> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the built in 
> display will have? I am in the market and all the other radios in this class 
> seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most of those have the display 
> outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>
> Happy New Year to all.
>


From johnae5x at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 20:51:15 2020
From: johnae5x at gmail.com (John Harper)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:51:15 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft]  K4 Internal and External display resolution
Message-ID: <CAPHmH=MraB1BSzm52UVz_M7gGpr-v64Zg07GJXP6i2my7MaUKg@mail.gmail.com>

And can the K4 be tuned from the monitor, by clicking on a particular trace?

73,

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

___________________________________

Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the
external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same
time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and waterfall
display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jan  2 21:07:56 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 18:07:56 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
	<175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <9C233D93-F45F-4E9B-8589-EF2611AE0F1C@elecraft.com>

The LCD also has an extremely wide viewing angle, and high max brightness. 

Wayne

----
elecraft.com

> On Jan 2, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.
> 
> We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI compatible monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.
> 
> Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and waterfall display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.
> 
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
> ---------
> 
>> On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
>> ...
>> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the built in display will have? I am in the market and all the other radios in this class seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most of those have the display outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>> 
>> Happy New Year to all.
>> 
> 
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From radio at disseminator.net  Thu Jan  2 23:22:30 2020
From: radio at disseminator.net (Dave Erickson)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:22:30 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
	<175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <d886b8f1-b64a-59b4-9253-aa84ddc53fb2@disseminator.net>

Wayne and Eric, (I combined your replies)

That is good news here.

It does lead to more questions though. ;)

Like: If displaying the pan-adapter(s) on a 4k external display 
(Awesome), what could take their place on the main display?

The mini-pans? Expanded meters? Spectrum analyzer? Real time propagation 
prediction? Oh my!

Thanks for the replies guys, as a new customer I appreciate your 
accessibility. ( And my new KX3 in the mean time )

73

Dave


> The LCD also has an extremely wide viewing angle, and high max 
> brightness.
>
> Wayne
>
> ----
> elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com>
On 1/2/2020 6:23 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.
>
> We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI 
> compatible monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.
>
> Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 
> on the external monitor, we can display data independently from the 
> LCD at the same time in whatever format we wish, such as the full 
> screen spectrum and waterfall display we've been showing at the shows 
> at 1920x1080.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
> ---------
>
> On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
>> ...
>> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the 
>> built in display will have? I am in the market and all the other 
>> radios in this class seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most 
>> of those have the display outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>>
>> Happy New Year to all.
>>
>
-- 
Dave Erickson - k0dom


From k1tl at cox.net  Fri Jan  3 06:52:31 2020
From: k1tl at cox.net (Tom Lizak)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 06:52:31 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Display Question
Message-ID: <001701d5c22c$48d6bd80$da843880$@net>

Hi all,

 

Can the K4 display be turned off if one does not want it "on" ?  No flamers,
please ! ! ! !

 

73 es happy 2020 y'all,

Tom/K1TL...


From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Jan  3 08:28:34 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 05:28:34 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <CAPHmH=MraB1BSzm52UVz_M7gGpr-v64Zg07GJXP6i2my7MaUKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPHmH=MraB1BSzm52UVz_M7gGpr-v64Zg07GJXP6i2my7MaUKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D010870F-B89B-4EB0-9557-A0E0B72DE8AC@elecraft.com>

Yes, in addition to using the VFO knob to change frequency, you can change the K4's frequency by clicking on the desired signal with a mouse or by tapping on it with your finger.

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Jan 2, 2020, at 5:52 PM, John Harper <johnae5x at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?And can the K4 be tuned from the monitor, by clicking on a particular trace?
> 
> 73,
> 
> John AE5X
> https://ae5x.blogspot.com
> 
> ___________________________________
> 
> Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the
> external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same
> time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and waterfall
> display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.
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From k1rfd at k1rfd.com  Fri Jan  3 09:15:32 2020
From: k1rfd at k1rfd.com (Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 09:15:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 Hi Cur
Message-ID: <CAArCFkpJJtaZfGWRypyBzLEx2vz3Gwb=WDJEVVS=DBPMq8c-3A@mail.gmail.com>

K2 #2462

I just upgraded the KPA100 from Rev A to Rev D, and installed the
upgraded shield, under the philosophy of "better late than never" :)

I am noticing two problems, when connected to a 50-ohm dummy load:

1) In TUNE, the display briefly shows "Hi Cur", followed by a strange
power/SWR indication such as "7 5.0-1"
2) At any setting above 10W, the Power knob seems to have no effect --
the wattmeter always reads approximately 100W output.  This is true
both in TUNE and in CW.

The actual power output appears to be about 100W, when measured with
an external wattmeter (although a bit low on 10M).

Do you think re-alignment is required?

Thanks

From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  3 10:22:29 2020
From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:22:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 LF & MF, K4 EXREF?
References: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>

Will the K4 transmit at 136 or 472 kHz, and if so at what power level and through which antenna port?? If so, at first ship or in the future?
The K4 brochure shows an empty hole for XREF, will this be available at first ship or in the future, and will it require an option board???
My apologies if these questions have already been answered and I missed them.
73 Eric WD6DBM

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Jan  3 10:24:05 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:24:05 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 Hi Cur
In-Reply-To: <CAArCFkpJJtaZfGWRypyBzLEx2vz3Gwb=WDJEVVS=DBPMq8c-3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkpJJtaZfGWRypyBzLEx2vz3Gwb=WDJEVVS=DBPMq8c-3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c29ff3b8-1b31-7af7-9fdd-088d291e14e4@embarqmail.com>

Jonathan,

The normal cause of that HiCur message is a failure in the wattmeter of 
the KPA100.  Re-alignment will not help.

To test for that possibility set the power knob for about 50 watts, 
connect an external wattmeter and a dummy load.  Then go Keydown and see 
what the actual power output is.  If it is in excess of 100 watts, then 
that is proof that the KPA100 wattmeter has a problem.

The most common cause is that the diodes D16 and D17 have been damaged 
by static from the feedline, so replacing D16 and D17 is the first step 
in attempting to correct the problem.  Check again for actual power 
output with the power set for 50 watts after replacing those diodes.

If you still have a problem after replacing those diodes, I can help 
with further troubleshooting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2020 9:15 AM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> K2 #2462
> 
> I just upgraded the KPA100 from Rev A to Rev D, and installed the
> upgraded shield, under the philosophy of "better late than never" :)
> 
> I am noticing two problems, when connected to a 50-ohm dummy load:
> 
> 1) In TUNE, the display briefly shows "Hi Cur", followed by a strange
> power/SWR indication such as "7 5.0-1"
> 2) At any setting above 10W, the Power knob seems to have no effect --
> the wattmeter always reads approximately 100W output.  This is true
> both in TUNE and in CW.
> 
> The actual power output appears to be about 100W, when measured with
> an external wattmeter (although a bit low on 10M).
> 

From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Jan  3 10:26:38 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:26:38 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 LF & MF, K4 EXREF?
In-Reply-To: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <64AEFC64-6BDB-4035-B393-450D25C3BC36@gmail.com>

Yes, I think all of these have been asked and answered ? of course :-)

I don?t recall the specific answers to the LF transmit question.  I asked about the XREF some time ago and the answer was that it would be standard on the K4 and not an option as it was on the K3.

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:22 AM, eric norris via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Will the K4 transmit at 136 or 472 kHz, and if so at what power level and through which antenna port?  If so, at first ship or in the future?
> The K4 brochure shows an empty hole for XREF, will this be available at first ship or in the future, and will it require an option board?  
> My apologies if these questions have already been answered and I missed them.
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
> 


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jan  3 11:54:04 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 08:54:04 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 LF & MF, K4 EXREF?
In-Reply-To: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0331E3D5-0C6C-45AE-917D-D18518EE5DE1@elecraft.com>


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:22 AM, eric norris via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Will the K4 transmit at 136 or 472 kHz,

Yes.


> and if so at what power level and through which antenna port?

Tentatively, up to ~5 dBm, using XVTR OUT only.


>  If so, at first ship or in the future?

Probably first ship.


> The K4 brochure shows an empty hole for XREF, will this be available at first ship or in the future, and will it require an option board?  

Supplied.

Wayne
N6KR



From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jan  3 11:55:05 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 08:55:05 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Display Question
In-Reply-To: <001701d5c22c$48d6bd80$da843880$@net>
References: <001701d5c22c$48d6bd80$da843880$@net>
Message-ID: <386455F3-8ED3-4500-892B-AD9B14FF121A@elecraft.com>

You can turn the brightness down to something quite low. I wouldn't suggest turning it all the way off, as the display shows critical operating status.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Tom Lizak <k1tl at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Can the K4 display be turned off if one does not want it "on" ?  No flamers,
> please ! ! ! !
> 
> 
> 
> 73 es happy 2020 y'all,
> 
> Tom/K1TL...
> 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jan  3 11:58:10 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 08:58:10 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <d886b8f1-b64a-59b4-9253-aa84ddc53fb2@disseminator.net>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
	<175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
	<d886b8f1-b64a-59b4-9253-aa84ddc53fb2@disseminator.net>
Message-ID: <E164C513-AD75-4E73-8D2E-6E9616A609C2@elecraft.com>

As of now the LCD still shows panadapter(s) if an external monitor is attached. It would be possible to use more of the LCD for TX monitoring, text decode, etc., in this situation, but I can't give you any specifics at this time.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:22 PM, Dave Erickson <radio at disseminator.net> wrote:
> 
> Wayne and Eric, (I combined your replies)
> 
> That is good news here.
> 
> It does lead to more questions though. ;)
> 
> Like: If displaying the pan-adapter(s) on a 4k external display (Awesome), what could take their place on the main display?
> 
> The mini-pans? Expanded meters? Spectrum analyzer? Real time propagation prediction? Oh my!
> 
> Thanks for the replies guys, as a new customer I appreciate your accessibility. ( And my new KX3 in the mean time )
> 
> 73
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> The LCD also has an extremely wide viewing angle, and high max brightness.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> ----
>> elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com>
> On 1/2/2020 6:23 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.
>> 
>> We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI compatible monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.
>> 
>> Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and waterfall display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/
>> ---------
>> 
>> On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
>>> ...
>>> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the built in display will have? I am in the market and all the other radios in this class seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most of those have the display outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>>> 
>>> Happy New Year to all.
>>> 
>> 
> -- 
> Dave Erickson - k0dom
> 
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From tony.kaz at verizon.net  Fri Jan  3 13:13:46 2020
From: tony.kaz at verizon.net (tony.kaz at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:13:46 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
	<175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <016e01d5c261$8a9b2fa0$9fd18ee0$@verizon.net>

Now you are making me drool
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 7:23 PM
To: Dave Erickson <radio at disseminator.net>; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution

Hi Dave,

The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.

We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI compatible
monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.

Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the
external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same
time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and
waterfall display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/
---------

On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
> ...
> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the 
> built in display will have? I am in the market and all the other 
> radios in this class seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most 
> of those have the display outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>
> Happy New Year to all.
>

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From dhaines at bates.edu  Fri Jan  3 14:47:04 2020
From: dhaines at bates.edu (David Haines)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 14:47:04 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Terminal window for CW
In-Reply-To: <f55be119-4ccf-29bd-ea33-3d3b98522ea4@qrp4fun.de>
References: <B174AE6C-AE5B-4AF3-8A90-BAC9945D57BC@gmail.com>
	<918182fa-dd37-67f6-240e-d1f5bd1c932b@verizon.net>
	<DM6PR03MB4874135139DAF23F0372C7FE8E240@DM6PR03MB4874.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
	<1577663632159-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<7e6ed318-a9e6-4a48-6ba1-69bb402536b1@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<7e2bbfd3-dabf-7565-b849-846c631ddd24@bates.edu>
	<f55be119-4ccf-29bd-ea33-3d3b98522ea4@qrp4fun.de>
Message-ID: <865becbd-ecba-0564-b12a-573f66cd52e2@bates.edu>

Fred says "Optionally, you can use the KX3 Utility to monitor an 
extended display of characters sent from the KX3's keyer."? I assume 
"keyer" could refer to the paddle connected to the KX3.

I can type characters into the Utility Terminal lower window and 
Transmit the CW.? The characters sent are displayed in the top window.

david

KC1DNY

On 12/31/2019 7:48 PM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:
> Hello David,
>
>> I'm enjoying and getting a lot out of our CW discussion.?? I've tried 
>> to use the KX3 uUtility for practice sending CW.
>>
>> p. 60 of Fred Cady's big, excellent Elecraft KX-Line book says I 
>> shouldbe able to use the Terminal window of the Utility to display 
>> the text of the CW I'm sending, but I've never been able to get it to 
>> work.
>>
>> Any ideas? 
>
> I use the "Terminal Window" of "Elecraft KX3 Utility" for typing CW 
> via keyboard.And the characters sent are displayed.
>
> But I can't decode characters given with the key. Only via keyboard - 
> butthat was not your intention. Did Fred Cady write if they were the 
> characters entered with a key or with a keyboard?
>
> 73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power!
> www.qrp4fun.de - dk3red at qrp4fun.de
>
>
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From KY5G at montac.com  Fri Jan  3 14:59:06 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:59:06 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
In-Reply-To: <E164C513-AD75-4E73-8D2E-6E9616A609C2@elecraft.com>
References: <a5d01723-2fc5-8944-73d6-b0a5dfbe50fc@disseminator.net>
	<175d9a7c-aca5-f971-6814-573129affc95@elecraft.com>
	<d886b8f1-b64a-59b4-9253-aa84ddc53fb2@disseminator.net>
	<E164C513-AD75-4E73-8D2E-6E9616A609C2@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <3b6073a3-6ef1-1324-b37b-418c583fda16@montac.com>

Just dropped better than $2k finishing up outfitting my K3s and P3, but 
if you and the rest of the Elecraft crew keep this up, I am going to 
have to get in line for a K4HD!!!

Not sure if my (very HAM supportive) XYL will sit still for that. ;-)8-):-D

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/03/20 10:58, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> As of now the LCD still shows panadapter(s) if an external monitor is attached. It would be possible to use more of the LCD for TX monitoring, text decode, etc., in this situation, but I can't give you any specifics at this time.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR

From kt5te at watershipfarm.com  Fri Jan  3 16:32:38 2020
From: kt5te at watershipfarm.com (kt5te at watershipfarm.com)
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 15:32:38 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 LF & MF, K4 EXREF?
In-Reply-To: <0331E3D5-0C6C-45AE-917D-D18518EE5DE1@elecraft.com>
References: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>
	<0331E3D5-0C6C-45AE-917D-D18518EE5DE1@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <2863711.DIQTxAe0M2@linux-veff>

That makes me happy!    
I'll just quietly sit back and continue to use my KX3 until the K4 arrives.  
:-)
-- 
73, William KT5TE

On Friday, January 3, 2020 10:54:04 AM CST Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:22 AM, eric norris via Elecraft
> > <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Will the K4 transmit at 136 or 472 kHz,
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > and if so at what power level and through which antenna port?
> 
> Tentatively, up to ~5 dBm, using XVTR OUT only.
> 
> >  If so, at first ship or in the future?
> 
> Probably first ship.
> 
> > The K4 brochure shows an empty hole for XREF, will this be available at
> > first ship or in the future, and will it require an option board?
> Supplied.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
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From k1rfd at k1rfd.com  Fri Jan  3 22:15:21 2020
From: k1rfd at k1rfd.com (Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:15:21 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 Hi Cur
In-Reply-To: <c29ff3b8-1b31-7af7-9fdd-088d291e14e4@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkpJJtaZfGWRypyBzLEx2vz3Gwb=WDJEVVS=DBPMq8c-3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<c29ff3b8-1b31-7af7-9fdd-088d291e14e4@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAArCFkqOtsWusV-5PWN61otLRWD2KTvEnReTKPTYk+48R4SV7g@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

Thanks for the tip -- that was exactly it. I checked and replaced D16
and D17 and all is well now.  (Both were showing the same voltage drop
in both directions.)  I gather from your description that the built-in
wattmeter forms a negative feedback loop with the power adjustment.

My diodes and I are definitely static-challenged -- I have had a
similar problem at least twice in the KAT100 despite my best efforts
to remember to disconnect the antenna after operating.

73
Jonathan K1RFD

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:44 AM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jonathan,
>
> The normal cause of that HiCur message is a failure in the wattmeter of
> the KPA100.  Re-alignment will not help.
>
> To test for that possibility set the power knob for about 50 watts,
> connect an external wattmeter and a dummy load.  Then go Keydown and see
> what the actual power output is.  If it is in excess of 100 watts, then
> that is proof that the KPA100 wattmeter has a problem.
>
> The most common cause is that the diodes D16 and D17 have been damaged
> by static from the feedline, so replacing D16 and D17 is the first step
> in attempting to correct the problem.  Check again for actual power
> output with the power set for 50 watts after replacing those diodes.
>
> If you still have a problem after replacing those diodes, I can help
> with further troubleshooting.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/3/2020 9:15 AM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> > K2 #2462
> >
> > I just upgraded the KPA100 from Rev A to Rev D, and installed the
> > upgraded shield, under the philosophy of "better late than never" :)
> >
> > I am noticing two problems, when connected to a 50-ohm dummy load:
> >
> > 1) In TUNE, the display briefly shows "Hi Cur", followed by a strange
> > power/SWR indication such as "7 5.0-1"
> > 2) At any setting above 10W, the Power knob seems to have no effect --
> > the wattmeter always reads approximately 100W output.  This is true
> > both in TUNE and in CW.
> >
> > The actual power output appears to be about 100W, when measured with
> > an external wattmeter (although a bit low on 10M).
> >

From k1rfd at k1rfd.com  Fri Jan  3 23:13:18 2020
From: k1rfd at k1rfd.com (Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 23:13:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 General Failure
Message-ID: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>

I am testing my KAT100, which had been sitting idle for a number of
years.  It is connected to the K2/100 via the DB9 cable as described
in the KAT100 manual.  The two are interconnected with a coax cable
and Ant1 is connected to a dummy load.

1. Apply power to KAT100.
2. Turn on K2/100.
3. Almost immediately, all LEDs on the SWR bar graph illuminate, the
S-meter bar graph on the K2 goes full scale, and both remain in this
state.  The receiver is silent. (There is no indication of any output
power, as if it were transmitting.)

Pressing the ANT1-2 button on the K2 produces the "not inst" message.
Turning off the K2 power, all LEDs on the KAT100 remain illuminated.
With KAT100 powered off, K2 functions normally.

I have verified the wiring of the DB-9 cable.  What's the next best
thing to check?

Thanks

From P.Hall at curtin.edu.au  Fri Jan  3 23:36:40 2020
From: P.Hall at curtin.edu.au (Peter Hall)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 04:36:40 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 LF & MF, K4 EXREF?
In-Reply-To: <0331E3D5-0C6C-45AE-917D-D18518EE5DE1@elecraft.com>
References: <1292249289.6296330.1578064949816.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1292249289.6296330.1578064949816@mail.yahoo.com>
	<0331E3D5-0C6C-45AE-917D-D18518EE5DE1@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <MEXPR01MB075877366DC869B27A04627FDA220@MEXPR01MB0758.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Wayne

One really cool optional setting would be a double-frequency output on LF/MF at ~ 0 dBm level.  That would allow the K4 to drive directly some of the common push-pull class D power amp designs which require, for example, 950 kHz drive for a 475 kHz output.

73, Peter. 



-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2020 12:54 AM
To: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 LF & MF, K4 EXREF?


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:22 AM, eric norris via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Will the K4 transmit at 136 or 472 kHz,

Yes.


> and if so at what power level and through which antenna port?

Tentatively, up to ~5 dBm, using XVTR OUT only.


>  If so, at first ship or in the future?

Probably first ship.


> The K4 brochure shows an empty hole for XREF, will this be available at first ship or in the future, and will it require an option board?  

Supplied.

Wayne
N6KR


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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 09:44:34 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 09:44:34 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 Hi Cur
In-Reply-To: <CAArCFkqOtsWusV-5PWN61otLRWD2KTvEnReTKPTYk+48R4SV7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkpJJtaZfGWRypyBzLEx2vz3Gwb=WDJEVVS=DBPMq8c-3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<c29ff3b8-1b31-7af7-9fdd-088d291e14e4@embarqmail.com>
	<CAArCFkqOtsWusV-5PWN61otLRWD2KTvEnReTKPTYk+48R4SV7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f922449f-2993-6509-ef37-ac31fc461bda@embarqmail.com>

Johnathan and all,

Actually it is not negative feedback for power control, but it is a 
closed circuit control loop providing positive control of the power level.
The actual power is measured at the KPA100 output and the result is sent 
to the MCU (via the VRFDET signal line) where it is compared with the 
requested power setting.? The result of that comparison is used to 
control the level of BFO injection in order to regulate the power output.

When the KPA100 wattmeter diodes are faulty, the MCU thinks there is low 
or no power output, and ramps up the drive to maximum.? The result is 
uncontrolled maximum power output.? If operated in that condition for 
some time, the base K2 PA transistors will be stressed and will 
eventually fail.? That condition also causes distortion, especially 
noted in SSB transmissions, but also increased IMD on the transmitted 
signal because the base K2 PA transistors are no longer being operated 
in a linear fashion.

With the KPA100 in the circuit, the KAT100 power sensing is not used, 
and the KAT100 wattmeter is used only to light the SWR indicators.
The KAT100 wattmeter is used if the KPA100 is not present.? The KAT2 
wattmeter is used if neither the KPA100 or KAT100 wattmeters are not 
present.? In the basic K2 (without the KAT2 or KPA100 or KAT100), there 
is an RF Detector to measure the power output, but that detector is 
dependent on the load - a 50 ohm resistivity load is assumed by the MCU 
calculation of power so it will not be correct if the load is other than 
50 ohms non-reactive.

So that is the story of how the K2 controls the power output.? The K1 
and K3/K3S use a similar system.? As far as I know, this system of power 
control is only used by some commercial transceivers and most other 
amateur transceivers simply let the operator control the drive level or 
provide only a fixed drive level.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2020 10:15 PM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> Don,
>
> Thanks for the tip -- that was exactly it. I checked and replaced D16
> and D17 and all is well now.  (Both were showing the same voltage drop
> in both directions.)  I gather from your description that the built-in
> wattmeter forms a negative feedback loop with the power adjustment.
>
> My diodes and I are definitely static-challenged -- I have had a
> similar problem at least twice in the KAT100 despite my best efforts
> to remember to disconnect the antenna after operating.
>
>


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 09:54:31 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 09:54:31 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 General Failure
In-Reply-To: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c33549b5-8f75-144b-d415-abb0ac1edf2d@embarqmail.com>

Johnathan,

Since the KAT100 is not recognized in the K2 menu, you either have a 
problem with the KAT100 firmware, but do check the cable for continuity 
of the AUXBUS signal that is used to communicate among the various 
pieces of firmware ICs throughout the K2 system.

Since the KAT100 has not been in service for a while, it may be that 
there is oxidation on the KAT100 firmware IC pins.  Removing and 
reinserting the firmware IC may bring it back to life by wiping away any 
oxidation on the pins.

As for the LEDs, that is also controlled by the firmware IC, so fix the 
firmware problem first, and then you can find any problems that remain.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2020 11:13 PM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> I am testing my KAT100, which had been sitting idle for a number of
> years.  It is connected to the K2/100 via the DB9 cable as described
> in the KAT100 manual.  The two are interconnected with a coax cable
> and Ant1 is connected to a dummy load.
> 
> 1. Apply power to KAT100.
> 2. Turn on K2/100.
> 3. Almost immediately, all LEDs on the SWR bar graph illuminate, the
> S-meter bar graph on the K2 goes full scale, and both remain in this
> state.  The receiver is silent. (There is no indication of any output
> power, as if it were transmitting.)
> 
> Pressing the ANT1-2 button on the K2 produces the "not inst" message.
> Turning off the K2 power, all LEDs on the KAT100 remain illuminated.
> With KAT100 powered off, K2 functions normally.
> 
> I have verified the wiring of the DB-9 cable.  What's the next best
> thing to check?
> 
> Thanks
> ______________________________________________________________
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From k1rfd at k1rfd.com  Sat Jan  4 10:49:04 2020
From: k1rfd at k1rfd.com (Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 10:49:04 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 General Failure
In-Reply-To: <c33549b5-8f75-144b-d415-abb0ac1edf2d@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33549b5-8f75-144b-d415-abb0ac1edf2d@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAArCFkp9w44_agFVdgkROyyF-KfY-j9-R9AMBF8s=vX+Vmy5TA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Don.

I had the same thought about U1, but unfortunately the symptoms remain
after re-seating it a couple of times.

Regarding AUXBUS, I believe continuity is good, since a logic probe on
the KAT100 side shows activity when certain K2 controls are
manipulated such as Power, Tune, and Band. It is "high" at all other
times. I checked this all the way to pin 40 of U1.

Should I conclude that the next step would be to replace U1?

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 9:54 AM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Johnathan,
>
> Since the KAT100 is not recognized in the K2 menu, you either have a
> problem with the KAT100 firmware, but do check the cable for continuity
> of the AUXBUS signal that is used to communicate among the various
> pieces of firmware ICs throughout the K2 system.
>
> Since the KAT100 has not been in service for a while, it may be that
> there is oxidation on the KAT100 firmware IC pins.  Removing and
> reinserting the firmware IC may bring it back to life by wiping away any
> oxidation on the pins.
>
> As for the LEDs, that is also controlled by the firmware IC, so fix the
> firmware problem first, and then you can find any problems that remain.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/3/2020 11:13 PM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> > I am testing my KAT100, which had been sitting idle for a number of
> > years.  It is connected to the K2/100 via the DB9 cable as described
> > in the KAT100 manual.  The two are interconnected with a coax cable
> > and Ant1 is connected to a dummy load.
> >
> > 1. Apply power to KAT100.
> > 2. Turn on K2/100.
> > 3. Almost immediately, all LEDs on the SWR bar graph illuminate, the
> > S-meter bar graph on the K2 goes full scale, and both remain in this
> > state.  The receiver is silent. (There is no indication of any output
> > power, as if it were transmitting.)
> >
> > Pressing the ANT1-2 button on the K2 produces the "not inst" message.
> > Turning off the K2 power, all LEDs on the KAT100 remain illuminated.
> > With KAT100 powered off, K2 functions normally.
> >
> > I have verified the wiring of the DB-9 cable.  What's the next best
> > thing to check?
> >
> > Thanks
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 11:19:31 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 11:19:31 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 General Failure
In-Reply-To: <CAArCFkp9w44_agFVdgkROyyF-KfY-j9-R9AMBF8s=vX+Vmy5TA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33549b5-8f75-144b-d415-abb0ac1edf2d@embarqmail.com>
	<CAArCFkp9w44_agFVdgkROyyF-KfY-j9-R9AMBF8s=vX+Vmy5TA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4aaeeef3-9275-e13f-b783-ed518eaee1f7@embarqmail.com>

Jonathan,

Yes, replacing KAT100 U1 would be the prudent first step.? But if you 
can, first determine if the resonator Z1 is providing clock pulses to U1 
pins 13 and 14.? Without those clock pulses, U1 will not be functional.

If you have a local ham who also has a KAT100, see if you can swap U1 
from his KAT100 to see if U1 is the problem in yours.

If you do not have a local who is willing to swap, then your best bet is 
to order both the firmware and the resonator from Elecraft.

OTOH, if you have a 4 MHz resonator on hand, try replacing Z1 first to 
see if it comes back to life.? The resonator is inexpensive, but the 
firmware IC is costly.

When the firmware is working, it will be recognized by the K2, 
regardless of any other problems that may be present with the KAT100 
operation.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 10:49 AM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> Thanks Don.
>
> I had the same thought about U1, but unfortunately the symptoms remain
> after re-seating it a couple of times.
>
> Regarding AUXBUS, I believe continuity is good, since a logic probe on
> the KAT100 side shows activity when certain K2 controls are
> manipulated such as Power, Tune, and Band. It is "high" at all other
> times. I checked this all the way to pin 40 of U1.
>
> Should I conclude that the next step would be to replace U1?
>
>


From elanzl at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  4 11:20:04 2020
From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net 12-15-2019
References: <1716441480.7998179.1578154804106.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1716441480.7998179.1578154804106@mail.yahoo.com>

Here is the log from the SSB net of 12-15-2019. Sorry it is a bit late but I was out of town during Christmas and did not get to post it until now. Thanks for everyone who participated in the net during 2019. Again, many thanks to the relay stations who are able to pick up the stations I am not able to hear. It is great to have several stations around the country to help everyone who wants to check in be able to be heard. All the best to everyone in 2020. It will be interesting to see how the new K4 will be this year. 


Elecraft SSB Net 12-15-2019

WB9JNZ???????? Eric????? IL??????K3????????? ????4017??? Net Control

NC0JW?????????? Jim????? CO???? KX3????? ? ??? 1356???Relay station

W1NGA????????? Al???????? CO???? K3???????? ?? 5765

K8NU/4????????? Carl????? OH???? TS590????via KF4LZA

N7BDL?? ???????? Terry??  AZ????K3S????? ?? ?? 10373

AE1E?????????????? Ken????? NM???K3S??????? ?  11611

NS7P????????????? Phil????? OR????? K3??????? ? ??1826

ZL1PWD???????? Peter?? NZ?????? K3??????? ???? ??  139

KC9JXJ????????? Hi???????? IL???????? Kenwood 590 SG

KO5V????????????? Jim????? NM????? K2/100 ? ? ? 7255

W2RWA????????? Dick??? NY?????? KX3???? ??? ?? 2603

K6VWE?????????? Stan??? MI????????K3??????????? ??650

N4NRW????????? Roger? SC?????? K3??????? ?? ? ? 1318?? Relay station

W4DML?????????? Doug?? TN ?????K3????????? ? ?? 6433

KB1TCD???????? Jose???ME????? KX3???????? ? ?? 7735

KE5POM???????? Mack??NM????? Yaesu ft 101f

AE1P????????????? Neal???? NH?????K3????????????? 2979

K4HGG?????????? Dale???? GA????K3S??????? ???11883
AB9EW?????????? Andy??? IL???????Icom 7300

73.s Eric WB9JNZ


From k1rfd at k1rfd.com  Sat Jan  4 12:18:29 2020
From: k1rfd at k1rfd.com (Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 12:18:29 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 General Failure
In-Reply-To: <4aaeeef3-9275-e13f-b783-ed518eaee1f7@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33549b5-8f75-144b-d415-abb0ac1edf2d@embarqmail.com>
	<CAArCFkp9w44_agFVdgkROyyF-KfY-j9-R9AMBF8s=vX+Vmy5TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4aaeeef3-9275-e13f-b783-ed518eaee1f7@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAArCFkrYDOz6COjuUKb+bNwUsGskBSHAUaiAc+T6KvkB3G5bnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

Z1 is resonating away, but in the course of verifying that, I noticed
that the U5 op-amp was getting hot to the touch.  I replaced it, and
now all is working normally.  Perhaps it was loading down the 5V
supply excessively.

I'm guessing that U5 made the ultimate sacrifice in the same incident
that zapped D1 and D2 some years ago.  Apparently this has happened
before, because I see that I had installed an 8-pin DIP socket for it
:)

Thanks again for your help!

73
Jonathan K1RFD

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 11:19 AM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jonathan,
>
> Yes, replacing KAT100 U1 would be the prudent first step.  But if you
> can, first determine if the resonator Z1 is providing clock pulses to U1
> pins 13 and 14.  Without those clock pulses, U1 will not be functional.
>
> If you have a local ham who also has a KAT100, see if you can swap U1
> from his KAT100 to see if U1 is the problem in yours.
>
> If you do not have a local who is willing to swap, then your best bet is
> to order both the firmware and the resonator from Elecraft.
>
> OTOH, if you have a 4 MHz resonator on hand, try replacing Z1 first to
> see if it comes back to life.  The resonator is inexpensive, but the
> firmware IC is costly.
>
> When the firmware is working, it will be recognized by the K2,
> regardless of any other problems that may be present with the KAT100
> operation.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/4/2020 10:49 AM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> > Thanks Don.
> >
> > I had the same thought about U1, but unfortunately the symptoms remain
> > after re-seating it a couple of times.
> >
> > Regarding AUXBUS, I believe continuity is good, since a logic probe on
> > the KAT100 side shows activity when certain K2 controls are
> > manipulated such as Power, Tune, and Band. It is "high" at all other
> > times. I checked this all the way to pin 40 of U1.
> >
> > Should I conclude that the next step would be to replace U1?
> >
> >
>

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 13:28:53 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 13:28:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 General Failure
In-Reply-To: <CAArCFkrYDOz6COjuUKb+bNwUsGskBSHAUaiAc+T6KvkB3G5bnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArCFkqdBdMjz1T4sgjvnnxPWJaXaLuMceAgu5ppG5VwCkMOvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33549b5-8f75-144b-d415-abb0ac1edf2d@embarqmail.com>
	<CAArCFkp9w44_agFVdgkROyyF-KfY-j9-R9AMBF8s=vX+Vmy5TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4aaeeef3-9275-e13f-b783-ed518eaee1f7@embarqmail.com>
	<CAArCFkrYDOz6COjuUKb+bNwUsGskBSHAUaiAc+T6KvkB3G5bnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7c95f6ec-5ec0-6e8b-2fd1-1af8fb26c74b@embarqmail.com>

Jonathan,

That is a great discovery. Yes, if U5 was getting hot it would be 
dragging down the 5 volt supply and causing U1 to not function.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 12:18 PM, Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote:
> Don,
>
> Z1 is resonating away, but in the course of verifying that, I noticed
> that the U5 op-amp was getting hot to the touch.  I replaced it, and
> now all is working normally.  Perhaps it was loading down the 5V
> supply excessively.
>
> I'm guessing that U5 made the ultimate sacrifice in the same incident
> that zapped D1 and D2 some years ago.  Apparently this has happened
> before, because I see that I had installed an 8-pin DIP socket for it
> :)
>
> Thanks again for your help!
>
> 73
> Jonathan K1RFD
>
>


From rtym at ippt.pan.pl  Sat Jan  4 14:02:03 2020
From: rtym at ippt.pan.pl (Ryszard Tymkiewicz)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:02:03 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem "ERR DLL"
Message-ID: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>

I have been using K3 for MANY years and the first time I got a message 
"ERROR DLL" ..there was a high noise level and I was not able to tune to 
stations. It was in my second QTH..when I got back home seems everything 
is OK. I don't know if it is a problem with contacts? If so which ones I 
should clean?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? 73 Rys
 ??????????????????????????????? SP5EWY

From brianpepperdine at sympatico.ca  Sat Jan  4 15:25:03 2020
From: brianpepperdine at sympatico.ca (Brian)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:25:03 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 parts to have 'on hand' ?
Message-ID: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I saw a message on 'another list' the other day which was a reply to someone who was thinking about getting a K2 kit while they could. The reply said... "inferior parts.. get spare variable resistors etc."  ---- I am assuming he means potentiometers...
Anyhow, I'd not seen or heard much about this 'you gotta replace this stuff in a year' kind of view.
Since I DO have a couple K2 rigs... would I be advised to get a few critical parts to take them into the next decade or two? They probably have more than a decade on them already.
I must admit that in the VERY early days I asked Eric how long we might expect the microprocessors to last? Meh, never been an issue nor has anything else in them, for me at least, luckily perhaps. Or the norm....

I realise nothing 'lasts forever' but since almost every thing I have is getting on... and some are pushing MY age from late 50's and early 60's circa some things can last a long time.
In any case, any wisdom on what to get on the shelf and have at hand while it is possible?... or don't worry and if the time comes just say a fond farewell? Or will I not care if and when a K4 finally landed here sometime (not thinking about that....yet).

Having Winter fun on CW here...hope you are too.
Brian VE3VAW


From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Sat Jan  4 15:36:11 2020
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:36:11 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 parts to have 'on hand' ?
In-Reply-To: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CDA04C15-7D63-422D-844A-426C090EF237@illinois.edu>

I?ve never failed to resurrect a HealthKit potentiometer with a tiny squirt of Caig DeOxit D5. I?ve not had trouble with my K2.
The parts you stock, will not be the parts that fail...some kind of natural law.

Chuck Jack Hawley 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Brian <brianpepperdine at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> I saw a message on 'another list' the other day which was a reply to someone who was thinking about getting a K2 kit while they could. The reply said... "inferior parts.. get spare variable resistors etc."  ---- I am assuming he means potentiometers...
> Anyhow, I'd not seen or heard much about this 'you gotta replace this stuff in a year' kind of view.
> Since I DO have a couple K2 rigs... would I be advised to get a few critical parts to take them into the next decade or two? They probably have more than a decade on them already.
> I must admit that in the VERY early days I asked Eric how long we might expect the microprocessors to last? Meh, never been an issue nor has anything else in them, for me at least, luckily perhaps. Or the norm....
> 
> I realise nothing 'lasts forever' but since almost every thing I have is getting on... and some are pushing MY age from late 50's and early 60's circa some things can last a long time.
> In any case, any wisdom on what to get on the shelf and have at hand while it is possible?... or don't worry and if the time comes just say a fond farewell? Or will I not care if and when a K4 finally landed here sometime (not thinking about that....yet).
> 
> Having Winter fun on CW here...hope you are too.
> Brian VE3VAW
> 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sat Jan  4 17:24:15 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 14:24:15 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
	solar panel
Message-ID: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>

I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging, natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining. 

My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)

To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.

I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?

tnx

Wayne
N6KR


From lrahnz at garlic.com  Sat Jan  4 17:55:15 2020
From: lrahnz at garlic.com (Logan R Zintsmaster)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 15:55:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
	solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <FE50CB1D-86E7-4EAF-BE93-824E757DCCC7@garlic.com>

I think a West Mountain Epic Powergate will meet your needs. 

Logan, KE7AZ 
Entropy is winning. 

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging, natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining. 
> 
> My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)
> 
> To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.
> 
> I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?
> 
> tnx
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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From marklgoldberg at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 18:06:40 2020
From: marklgoldberg at gmail.com (Mark Goldberg)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 16:06:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CAKn+a3srppTZrHpj2=uC=PMgzqCGuc5YPv6vJgDkbEPSQizz4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Contact my friend Harry at h.niedecken at wirlnet.com (
https://squareup.com/store/wirlnet-com). He builds larger systems, but may
have a smaller one too. In any case, he knows the lay of the land and what
is good and what is not. Tell him I sent you.

I use 12V LiFePO4s which keep the voltage up (>12V) much longer than Lead
Acid and weigh less. I've got them in sizes from 3 Ah for backpacking with
my KX3 to 400 Ah in our RV running my KX3 and a big inverter for my KPA500.
Morningstar has a bang bang mode on some solar controllers that don't
output much RFI.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 3:24 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for light
> backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging, natural-power use
> of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to automotive-style USB
> chargers works great when the sun is shining.
>
> My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker off
> for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)
>
> To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest battery
> pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without
> intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous
> charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the
> PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V
> minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.
>
> I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd
> prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and
> reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?
>
> tnx
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sat Jan  4 18:08:35 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 15:08:35 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 parts to have 'on hand' ?
In-Reply-To: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <880449f9-bd20-fcb7-f773-d795b80129df@foothill.net>

My K2 is 10+ years old and only one part has failed:? One of the main 
CPU chips failed very early [infant mortality?].? The front headphone 
jack is finally showing signs of possible problems.? That's it.? Law of 
Quantum Predestination -- "Buying a spare before the original fails 
automatically guarantees that the original will never fail."? Something 
about a dead-ish/live-ish cat in a box or something like that

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 1/4/2020 12:25 PM, Brian wrote:
> I saw a message on 'another list' the other day which was a reply to someone who was thinking about getting a K2 kit while they could. The reply said... "inferior parts.. get spare variable resistors etc."  ---- I am assuming he means potentiometers...
> Anyhow, I'd not seen or heard much about this 'you gotta replace this stuff in a year' kind of view.
> Since I DO have a couple K2 rigs... would I be advised to get a few critical parts to take them into the next decade or two? They probably have more than a decade on them already.
> I must admit that in the VERY early days I asked Eric how long we might expect the microprocessors to last? Meh, never been an issue nor has anything else in them, for me at least, luckily perhaps. Or the norm....
>
> I realise nothing 'lasts forever' but since almost every thing I have is getting on... and some are pushing MY age from late 50's and early 60's circa some things can last a long time.
> In any case, any wisdom on what to get on the shelf and have at hand while it is possible?... or don't worry and if the time comes just say a fond farewell? Or will I not care if and when a K4 finally landed here sometime (not thinking about that....yet).
>
> Having Winter fun on CW here...hope you are too.
> Brian VE3VAW
>


From n6lrv at outlook.com  Sat Jan  4 18:11:18 2020
From: n6lrv at outlook.com (n6lrv at outlook.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 23:11:18 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50
	watt	solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Uh boy, this thread is bound to hit the max replies bell real quick!

Reasonably priced is up to you Wayne but for proven and reliable I recommend products from <https://www.morningstarcorp.com/>. At my place of work we have several of their MPPT and PWM controllers in service, some as much as 10 years now. I use their Prostar PWM controller on my personal standalone system with a 100 watt panel and a modest lead acid battery. In my experience their more compact Sunsaver products work well too and both are available on Amazon.

I can't stress this enough - match your controller to your chosen battery chemistry as best you can. There are many controllers available today that support lithium, LiFePO4, NiMH, etc. Plenty of info is available online including sites like <https://solarpoweredhamradio.com/> , <http://ki0bk.no-ip.com/~pwrgate/LLPG/Site/Solar.html> , <https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/solar-controllers> , <http://www.westmountainradio.com/dc_power.php>  just to name a few.

73,
Gary, N6LRV





________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 2:24 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt solar panel

I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging, natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining.

My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)

To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.

I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?

tnx

Wayne
N6KR

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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sat Jan  4 18:37:43 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:37:43 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem "ERR DLL"
In-Reply-To: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>
References: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>
Message-ID: <04A754DD-0996-450D-8B75-12D7950168A8@widomaker.com>

ZDLL error sounds more like a Windows thing then a radio error. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Ryszard Tymkiewicz <rtym at ippt.pan.pl> wrote:
> 
> ?I have been using K3 for MANY years and the first time I got a message "ERROR DLL" ..there was a high noise level and I was not able to tune to stations. It was in my second QTH..when I got back home seems everything is OK. I don't know if it is a problem with contacts? If so which ones I should clean?
>                                  73 Rys
>                                 SP5EWY
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From ua9cdc at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 18:48:33 2020
From: ua9cdc at gmail.com (Igor Sokolov)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 04:48:33 +0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <b13e963f-518d-3a5c-10c0-285d930df986@gmail.com>

For several years I have been using 5.5 AH? (for KX3) or 25 AH (for K3) 
LiFePo4 batteries, charging them with 1 or 2 60W portable folding solar 
panels using GENASUN MPPT rf quiet controller. This controller is highly 
recommended.

In reality a pair of the above panels? were squeezing maximum of 5.5 A.

73, Igor UA9CDC

05.01.2020 3:24, Wayne Burdick ?????:
> I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging, natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining.
>
> My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)
>
> To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.
>
> I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?
>
> tnx
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 18:51:14 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:51:14 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 parts to have 'on hand' ?
In-Reply-To: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <YT1PR01MB3644464C3BA962AE6131F07FC3220@YT1PR01MB3644.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <f27bd1a2-1acf-aafa-ba4c-e891b3087b3c@embarqmail.com>

Brian,

I believe I can speak with authority having repaired over 1000 K2s in 
the last 15 years.

The one item that fails frequently in the K2 is the headphone jack, so I 
would advise having a spare on hand.

Maybe a set of K2 PA transistors (for the base K2, not the KPA100).  If 
the diodes in the KPA100 or KAT2 are hit by static and the power control 
goes to maximum, the base K2 PA transistors will fail if that condition 
is not recognized and operation is not stopped until the condition is 
corrected.

If the K2 is old, yes the AF Gain and other potentiometers can become 
'scratchy', and since they are sealed, there is no other cure but 
replacement.  If the K2 serial number is less than 3000, make sure the 
Alternate AF Gain Wiring Mod has been installed (and replace the AF Gain 
pot at the same time).

A few 1N5711 diodes can be handy especially if you are not diligent 
about disconnecting the antenna when not in use and static from the 
antenna feedline takes out the diodes in the wattmeter (KPA100, KAT2 or 
KAT100).  For those who do disconnect the feedline(s), be certain to 
short between the feedline center conductor and the shell to discharge 
any accumulated static charge before connecting it to the K2 ANT connector.

Other than that list, I can't think of any K2 part that fails 
frequently.  As Murphy says, if you have the part on hand, it will not 
fail!  Other failures involving ICs and transistors are not common. 
However, if you have an older KPA100 (with red toroid cores at L15 and 
L16), I advise you to install the KPA100UPKT mod and also the shield kit 
KPA100SHLDKT.

If you do not have the current K2 firmware 2.04 MCU 1.09 IOC, you might 
want to upgrade it and save the old firmware ICs in case of a 
catastrophe, but that is not a frequent failure either.  Serial numbers 
below 3000 do require wiring changes for the sidetone source when 
upgrading to the 2.04 MCU firmware.  If the KIO2 or the KPA100 has been 
installed, those wiring changes have already been installed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 3:25 PM, Brian wrote:
> I saw a message on 'another list' the other day which was a reply to someone who was thinking about getting a K2 kit while they could. The reply said... "inferior parts.. get spare variable resistors etc."  ---- I am assuming he means potentiometers...
> Anyhow, I'd not seen or heard much about this 'you gotta replace this stuff in a year' kind of view.
> Since I DO have a couple K2 rigs... would I be advised to get a few critical parts to take them into the next decade or two? They probably have more than a decade on them already.
> I must admit that in the VERY early days I asked Eric how long we might expect the microprocessors to last? Meh, never been an issue nor has anything else in them, for me at least, luckily perhaps. Or the norm....
> 
> I realise nothing 'lasts forever' but since almost every thing I have is getting on... and some are pushing MY age from late 50's and early 60's circa some things can last a long time.
> In any case, any wisdom on what to get on the shelf and have at hand while it is possible?... or don't worry and if the time comes just say a fond farewell? Or will I not care if and when a K4 finally landed here sometime (not thinking about that....yet).
> 
> Having Winter fun on CW here...hope you are too.
> Brian VE3VAW

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 18:58:38 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:58:38 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem "ERR DLL"
In-Reply-To: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>
References: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>
Message-ID: <b963e69a-1c09-a13c-4d01-859b181afea4@embarqmail.com>

Rys,

The first thing to try are the steps indicated in the K3 manual listing 
of errors.

If those do not help, and this is an older K3, try removing the front 
panel assembly (the KDVR3 manual page 7 has good instructions for doing 
that).  If the pins on the front panel connector are tin plated, they 
should be replaced with the gold pins (Elecraft has a kit).  In any 
case, removing the front panel assembly and simply replacing it will 
wipe oxidation from the pins and can restore proper operation.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 2:02 PM, Ryszard Tymkiewicz wrote:
> I have been using K3 for MANY years and the first time I got a message 
> "ERROR DLL" ..there was a high noise level and I was not able to tune to 
> stations. It was in my second QTH..when I got back home seems everything 
> is OK. I don't know if it is a problem with contacts? If so which ones I 
> should clean?
>  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? 73 Rys
>  ??????????????????????????????? SP5EWY

From mike.walkington at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 19:09:33 2020
From: mike.walkington at gmail.com (VK1OO, Mike Walkington)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 17:09:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] OT:  Australian fires
In-Reply-To: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
References: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1578182973999-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Wayne

Thanks for thinking of us. A horrendous situation and at the worst possible
time with so many people on their summer holidays in the most fire prone
areas. We have a team of US / Canadian firefighters here that came over
before Christmas to bring their expertise to the fight. And Aussies were in
California and Canada during your fire season. Wonderful to see how we can
help each other in trying times.

Best wishes
Mike
VK1OO





-----


Cheers
Mike
VK1OO (ex AC7MZ, VK1KCK)
K2: 2599
--
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 19:22:31 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 19:22:31 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <b13e963f-518d-3a5c-10c0-285d930df986@gmail.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<b13e963f-518d-3a5c-10c0-285d930df986@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1D328D0C-E686-498A-BCC7-0E8CF816EA35@gmail.com>

I second the GENASUN.  And they have the advantage of being RF dead quiet.

Grant NQ5T

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For several years I have been using 5.5 AH  (for KX3) or 25 AH (for K3) LiFePo4 batteries, charging them with 1 or 2 60W portable folding solar panels using GENASUN MPPT rf quiet controller. This controller is highly recommended.
> 
> In reality a pair of the above panels  were squeezing maximum of 5.5 A.
> 
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> 
> 05.01.2020 3:24, Wayne Burdick ?????:
>> I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging, natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining.
>> 
>> My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)
>> 
>> To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.
>> 
>> I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?
>> 
>> tnx
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From K1ND at comcast.net  Sat Jan  4 20:43:11 2020
From: K1ND at comcast.net (Jan)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:43:11 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] SKCC K3Y event
Message-ID: <884bf7d8-3e66-eeaf-68ab-3eff0a44424c@comcast.net>

The month-long 14th Annual K3Y event is going-on on CW

Lot of fun here with the KX3 ~ PX3 ~ and sometimes KXPA100

Check it @? https://www.skccgroup.com/

Happy New Year ~ ALL ~

Regards, Jan K1ND? ~ 65+ years of hamming ~


From infomet at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 20:54:32 2020
From: infomet at embarqmail.com (Wilson Lamb)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:54:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Battery Charger for Small Solar Power Syatem
Message-ID: <913919391.26481699.1578189272934.JavaMail.zimbra@embarqmail.com>

Start simple...car battery, or borrow from your lawn tractor.
Small charge controller selected for min RFI.
If the kid can concentrate on a job, salvage 18650 cells from old laptop batteries and build packs of whatever size you need.
"Dead laptop batteries usually have just a couple of bad cells and some shops will give/sell them cheap.
Ebay has the plastic hardware for assembling packs without duct tape.
Get single cell chargers from ebay for initial conditioning.
There's a lot of potential learning here!
73,
Wilson
W4BOH

From hillslaird at internode.on.net  Sat Jan  4 20:57:34 2020
From: hillslaird at internode.on.net (Kev Schache)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 12:27:34 +1030
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Australian fires
In-Reply-To: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
References: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <549e8a09-1eb3-df0e-ec81-53146a4d40f3@internode.on.net>

Hi Wayne,

i am certain that I am speaking on behalf of all Australians, both 
customers and others, when I say that your thoughts and empathy, both 
personal and from Elecraft, are much appreciated at this seriously 
distressing time. As an 85 year old first licenced in 1960, I have lived 
and in some cases fought through many great droughts and bushfires 
causing huge losses, but none of this magnitude. Your encouraging 
thoughts assist us in staying focused in looking to the future and 
rebuilding.

May your new year be filled with encouraging words likewise

73,

Kev?? VK5KS?????? K2/100, KX3, PX3


On 03-Jan-20 2:25 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Our thoughts go out to our Australian customers and their families, as well as the thousands of other Australians affected by wildfires.
>
> California, too, has seen record droughts and wildfires in recent years, so we can empathize. But the number of fires in VK as well as their wide geographical impact appears to dwarf ours.
>
> Wishing you better luck in the new year--
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
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From mark.yergin at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 21:11:46 2020
From: mark.yergin at gmail.com (Mark Yergin)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 21:11:46 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Q7 and Q8 Short to Ground
Message-ID: <CAMDFhzQ=9WxT1Q=L0WeaPSSEg805ujZ7-uADNY1PyifiRXmfUg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm in the final stages of my K2 build, but having a problem with Q7 and Q8
shorting to ground.  When I did my Resistance Checks on pg 74, I had 3.66K
ohms to ground at the Q7 collector.  So that was fine.  But when I put all
the boards and panels on, then attached Q7 and Q8 to the heat sink, I see
about 135 ohms between the Q7 and Q8 collectors and ground.  I assume
that's unacceptable.  I see the same with the heat sink off.  Suggestions?

Mark W8EWH

From na5n at zianet.com  Sat Jan  4 21:15:53 2020
From: na5n at zianet.com (na5n at zianet.com)
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 19:15:53 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SKCC K3Y event
In-Reply-To: <884bf7d8-3e66-eeaf-68ab-3eff0a44424c@comcast.net>
References: <884bf7d8-3e66-eeaf-68ab-3eff0a44424c@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20200105021553.34674.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>

Jan writes:

> The month-long 14th Annual K3Y event is going-on on CW
> Lot of fun here with the KX3 ~ PX3 ~ and sometimes KXPA100
> Check it @? https://www.skccgroup.com/

I've been playing with the SKCC K3Y with my KX2, just to see how many of  
the stations/call areas I can work QRP and a dipole or vertical.  Fun  
breaking through some of the pileups.  So far have 12 worked between 20 and  
40M, including K3Y/KH6.  Of course, now waiting for the RTTY contest to end  
to get back to business.

Thanks for the reminder, Jan.
Rules here: https://www.skccgroup.com/k3y/k3y.php

72, Paul NA5N (SKCC #10073T)

From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 22:15:44 2020
From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 23:15:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <1D328D0C-E686-498A-BCC7-0E8CF816EA35@gmail.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<b13e963f-518d-3a5c-10c0-285d930df986@gmail.com>
	<1D328D0C-E686-498A-BCC7-0E8CF816EA35@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPKcU=stbga66fsaYf5TX_kvdquwDk+ahzQMo-VZx+kM55D3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Wayne

>From many Dxpeditions in the Caribbean with a 100watt panel  ... here is my
pick

https://www.buddipole.com/powermini.html
and the Powerfilm Solar has checked it and they say it's one of the
cleanest they have seen
73s
Paul KB9AVO

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 8:23 PM Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I second the GENASUN.  And they have the advantage of being RF dead quiet.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> > On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For several years I have been using 5.5 AH  (for KX3) or 25 AH (for K3)
> LiFePo4 batteries, charging them with 1 or 2 60W portable folding solar
> panels using GENASUN MPPT rf quiet controller. This controller is highly
> recommended.
> >
> > In reality a pair of the above panels  were squeezing maximum of 5.5 A.
> >
> > 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> > 05.01.2020 3:24, Wayne Burdick ?????:
> >> I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for
> light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging,
> natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly to
> automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining.
> >>
> >> My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker
> off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)
> >>
> >> To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest
> battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without
> intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous
> charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time the
> PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11 to 12 V
> minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the radios.
> >>
> >> I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but
> I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable,
> and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?
> >>
> >> tnx
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan  4 22:28:51 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 22:28:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Q7 and Q8 Short to Ground
In-Reply-To: <CAMDFhzQ=9WxT1Q=L0WeaPSSEg805ujZ7-uADNY1PyifiRXmfUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDFhzQ=9WxT1Q=L0WeaPSSEg805ujZ7-uADNY1PyifiRXmfUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e63b288f-ea60-f302-8587-a2afa09ace9c@embarqmail.com>

Mark,

The most usual cause of a Q7/Q8 short to ground is that the thermal 
insulators are not installed properly.
However, your statement that you see the same with the heatsink off 
indicates that the Q7 or Q8 transistors have been damaged by a collector 
to emitter short.  If the K2 was subjected to a transmit without the 
heatsink installed, that could be reason for the demise of Q7/Q8 
transistors.

Make certain that the PA mounting hardware is installed correctly, 
especially the shoulder washers.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 9:11 PM, Mark Yergin wrote:
> I'm in the final stages of my K2 build, but having a problem with Q7 and Q8
> shorting to ground.  When I did my Resistance Checks on pg 74, I had 3.66K
> ohms to ground at the Q7 collector.  So that was fine.  But when I put all
> the boards and panels on, then attached Q7 and Q8 to the heat sink, I see
> about 135 ohms between the Q7 and Q8 collectors and ground.  I assume
> that's unacceptable.  I see the same with the heat sink off.  Suggestions?

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Jan  4 22:38:25 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 19:38:25 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <14f95f98-4acf-8836-8220-b98288d89c85@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/4/2020 2:24 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> I could cobble something together from several different vendors, but I'd prefer to purchase system components that are already proven, reliable, and reasonable in cost. Any recommendations?

I and many of my friends are using LiFePO4 batteries from Bioenne Power 
with a Genasun charge regulator. Most high efficiency charge regulators 
are mucho noisy, but this one is not. The two k3s on my operating desk 
run on a 100Ah battery, which is float charged by a spare Thinkpad PSU. 
It's rated for 20V @ 4.5A, and the charge regulator, which is an MPPT 
type, down-converts it to the 14.5V or so that the battery wants to see.

This is enough to more than keep up with SO2R when the rigs are driving 
a KPA1500 and an 87A, or a pair of 87As. Under load, the K3 voltmeter 
stays above about 13.4V.

I own two 20Ah batteries for portable work; W6GJB owns a much smaller 
one (4Ah) that he uses to power a KX3 for WSPR antenna testing. Petr, 
AG6EE, owns a 50Ah battery that runs his KX3/KXPA100 for mountaintop VHF 
work, and a 48V that runs a 6M kW amp sold by M2. I think the 48V 
battery is 50 or 100 Ah. The weekend after Christmas, Petr was set up in 
this National Monument https://www.nps.gov/orpi/planyourvisit/maps.htm 
to work Meteor Scatter from this very rare grid along the US/Mexico 
border. No generators are permitted, hence the big battery for the power 
amp.

All of these batteries are Bioenne Power with LiFePO4 chemistry with 
built-in circuitry to equalize the cells. They are very good people to 
work with.

They also sell a much cheaper and simpler hysteresis charger for use 
with their batteries.

73, Jim K9YC



From mark.yergin at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 22:39:48 2020
From: mark.yergin at gmail.com (Mark Yergin)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 22:39:48 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Q7 and Q8 Short to Ground
In-Reply-To: <e63b288f-ea60-f302-8587-a2afa09ace9c@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAMDFhzQ=9WxT1Q=L0WeaPSSEg805ujZ7-uADNY1PyifiRXmfUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e63b288f-ea60-f302-8587-a2afa09ace9c@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMDFhzTon+deMxN4kCqRDgEni2AXu24OYC2Ls5UaoimDiFH98w@mail.gmail.com>

Don - The PA?s have never seen any power nor have I tried to transmit yet.
In the morning I?m going to take all the panels and boards off the RF board
and see if I still pass all the resistance checks.  I don?t understand how
I can pass the resistance check and then see this behavior when the boards
and panels are installed.

Mark W8EWH

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:28 PM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> The most usual cause of a Q7/Q8 short to ground is that the thermal
> insulators are not installed properly.
> However, your statement that you see the same with the heatsink off
> indicates that the Q7 or Q8 transistors have been damaged by a collector
> to emitter short.  If the K2 was subjected to a transmit without the
> heatsink installed, that could be reason for the demise of Q7/Q8
> transistors.
>
> Make certain that the PA mounting hardware is installed correctly,
> especially the shoulder washers.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/4/2020 9:11 PM, Mark Yergin wrote:
> > I'm in the final stages of my K2 build, but having a problem with Q7 and
> Q8
> > shorting to ground.  When I did my Resistance Checks on pg 74, I had
> 3.66K
> > ohms to ground at the Q7 collector.  So that was fine.  But when I put
> all
> > the boards and panels on, then attached Q7 and Q8 to the heat sink, I see
> > about 135 ohms between the Q7 and Q8 collectors and ground.  I assume
> > that's unacceptable.  I see the same with the heat sink off.
> Suggestions?
>

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Jan  4 22:44:39 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 19:44:39 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>

What can you tell us about RF noise from the Morningstar charge 
regulators when the wiring between panels, regulator, and battery is 
very close to antennas? I'd be willing to bet it varies widely from one 
regulator family to another.

Another critical point -- current drawn from the panels and fed to the 
battery is pulsed DC, so should be viewed DC 100% modulated by DC square 
waves. ALL wiring in the charge path must be twisted pair to minimize 
radiation from it to nearby antennas.

73, Jim K9YC

On 1/4/2020 3:11 PM, n6lrv at outlook.com wrote:
> Reasonably priced is up to you Wayne but for proven and reliable I recommend products from<https://www.morningstarcorp.com/>. At my place of work we have several of their MPPT and PWM controllers in service, some as much as 10 years now. I use their Prostar PWM controller on my personal standalone system with a 100 watt panel and a modest lead acid battery. In my experience their more compact Sunsaver products work well too and both are available on Amazon.


From marklgoldberg at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 23:52:02 2020
From: marklgoldberg at gmail.com (Mark Goldberg)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 21:52:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <CAKn+a3v+r+cUB=0ugj15owTfzqhCYn5NSDM=94m7UnGikkaQYA@mail.gmail.com>

My Morningstar PWM controller has a bang bang mode that only switches once
a second or so. In the normal mode it is noisy. You give up the extra
efficiency from an MPPT charger, but it is much cheaper.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 8:45 PM Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:

> What can you tell us about RF noise from the Morningstar charge
> regulators when the wiring between panels, regulator, and battery is
> very close to antennas? I'd be willing to bet it varies widely from one
> regulator family to another.
>
> Another critical point -- current drawn from the panels and fed to the
> battery is pulsed DC, so should be viewed DC 100% modulated by DC square
> waves. ALL wiring in the charge path must be twisted pair to minimize
> radiation from it to nearby antennas.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 1/4/2020 3:11 PM, n6lrv at outlook.com wrote:
> > Reasonably priced is up to you Wayne but for proven and reliable I
> recommend products from<https://www.morningstarcorp.com/>. At my place of
> work we have several of their MPPT and PWM controllers in service, some as
> much as 10 years now. I use their Prostar PWM controller on my personal
> standalone system with a 100 watt panel and a modest lead acid battery. In
> my experience their more compact Sunsaver products work well too and both
> are available on Amazon.
>
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From jonathan.morrison at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 23:57:31 2020
From: jonathan.morrison at gmail.com (Jonathan Morrison)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 21:57:31 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Unable to save a Configuration on a KX3
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CAMVuO41Yc082A8RrntauHBRooW5pp5TE7U1yHsY3Ob6LoCV3Zg@mail.gmail.com>

I have had my KX3 (and my ticket) for a year or so now, but I am finally
learning how to use it.  I did a factory reset, uploaded the latest
firmware via KX3Utility on ubuntu (sudo) and then tried to save the kx3
configuration but I receive the following error messages:

Activity Log: Configuration was not saved - Error reading EEPROM Data.
Error Message: *Unable to read EEPROM address 000.000

What I am doing wrong?

Sincerely,

Jonathan
KI7VZD

From kevinr at coho.net  Sat Jan  4 23:58:01 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 20:58:01 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <0f5dd1f6-ea2e-a849-e82d-c7c486b66637@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? The sun broke through the clouds for a few minutes this week. 
However, the sunspots it's been hosting lately are too small for me to 
see.? Have to time the breaks in the clouds and walls of rain better.? 
On Christmas day we got a few new sunspots to break the long dry spell.? 
219 spotless days for 2019.? Since then a few more have popped up.? All 
of them have been from cycle 25.? Things may be looking up for the new year.

 ?? I read a recipe a few days back which has stuck in my head.? I am 
going to make an attempt at it and see how my version turns out.? Now to 
find my rolling pin and enough space to use it.

https://www.saveur.com/lasagna-bread-italian-sicilian-scaccia-recipe/


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday? (2 PM PST Sunday)
 ?7047 kHz at 0000z Monday? (4 PM PST Sunday)

73,

 ?? Kevin. KD5ONS

-



From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sun Jan  5 00:21:39 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 21:21:39 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <CAKn+a3v+r+cUB=0ugj15owTfzqhCYn5NSDM=94m7UnGikkaQYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<CAKn+a3v+r+cUB=0ugj15owTfzqhCYn5NSDM=94m7UnGikkaQYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <adfc1bf8-5ee0-18c3-7123-75f0e02f21de@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/4/2020 8:52 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote:
> My Morningstar PWM controller has a bang bang mode that only switches once
> a second or so. In the normal mode it is noisy. You give up the extra
> efficiency from an MPPT charger, but it is much cheaper.

That can be fine if you don't need to operate while charging.

73, Jim K9YC

From rtym at ippt.pan.pl  Sun Jan  5 02:46:09 2020
From: rtym at ippt.pan.pl (Ryszard Tymkiewicz)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:46:09 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem "ERR DLL"
In-Reply-To: <04A754DD-0996-450D-8B75-12D7950168A8@widomaker.com>
References: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>
	<04A754DD-0996-450D-8B75-12D7950168A8@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <e9d60332-3acd-e493-3789-3f0d5362de12@ippt.pan.pl>

Bill..the message was on K3 screen and not any PC was connected...

 ?????????????????????? 73 Rys

W dniu 2020-01-05 o?00:37, Nr4c pisze:
> ZDLL error sounds more like a Windows thing then a radio error.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Ryszard Tymkiewicz <rtym at ippt.pan.pl> wrote:
>>
>> ?I have been using K3 for MANY years and the first time I got a message "ERROR DLL" ..there was a high noise level and I was not able to tune to stations. It was in my second QTH..when I got back home seems everything is OK. I don't know if it is a problem with contacts? If so which ones I should clean?
>>                                   73 Rys
>>                                  SP5EWY
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From n6lrv at outlook.com  Sun Jan  5 06:22:00 2020
From: n6lrv at outlook.com (n6lrv at outlook.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 11:22:00 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>,
	<66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR01MB4599BCA2695DB026BFC1CC39EC3D0@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>

I haven't observed any RFI from the Morningstar Prostar but then my small solar setup isn't close to any antennas. I'll give that a try and let you know what I find.

Gary

________________________________
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Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 7:44 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt solar panel

What can you tell us about RF noise from the Morningstar charge
regulators when the wiring between panels, regulator, and battery is
very close to antennas? I'd be willing to bet it varies widely from one
regulator family to another.

Another critical point -- current drawn from the panels and fed to the
battery is pulsed DC, so should be viewed DC 100% modulated by DC square
waves. ALL wiring in the charge path must be twisted pair to minimize
radiation from it to nearby antennas.

73, Jim K9YC

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From ae8jg.gould at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 09:46:11 2020
From: ae8jg.gould at gmail.com (Joshua Gould)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 09:46:11 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
 solar panel
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR01MB4599BCA2695DB026BFC1CC39EC3D0@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<BYAPR01MB4599BAB9CDB7C4BC04B17F75EC220@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<66fcef7f-1ee2-8966-3d7f-922d01976ac2@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<BYAPR01MB4599BCA2695DB026BFC1CC39EC3D0@BYAPR01MB4599.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CAEbXHxjgO70b4h4huhuMbGEv8ZkLciKm81XSHUomtgFR8+Rfmw@mail.gmail.com>

I recently picked up a 30 watt Renogy panel that was sold as a kit. It came
with a 5 Amp charge controller that was suitable for sealed lead acid
batteries so I upgraded that to a 10 Amp charger that will work with all of
the available attery chemistries, as I plan to upgrade to LiFePo4 batteries
in the future.

The Renogy controller is dead quiet based on my experiences with using it
on the 1st of January as I activated three different parks.

I think Renogy's decent value for the money...

Josh
AE8JG


On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 6:24 AM n6lrv at outlook.com <n6lrv at outlook.com> wrote:

> I haven't observed any RFI from the Morningstar Prostar but then my small
> solar setup isn't close to any antennas. I'll give that a try and let you
> know what I find.
>
> Gary
>
> ________________________________
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> on behalf of Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 7:44 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50
> watt solar panel
>
> What can you tell us about RF noise from the Morningstar charge
> regulators when the wiring between panels, regulator, and battery is
> very close to antennas? I'd be willing to bet it varies widely from one
> regulator family to another.
>
> Another critical point -- current drawn from the panels and fed to the
> battery is pulsed DC, so should be viewed DC 100% modulated by DC square
> waves. ALL wiring in the charge path must be twisted pair to minimize
> radiation from it to nearby antennas.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sun Jan  5 11:13:49 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 11:13:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Q7 and Q8 Short to Ground
In-Reply-To: <CAMDFhzTon+deMxN4kCqRDgEni2AXu24OYC2Ls5UaoimDiFH98w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDFhzQ=9WxT1Q=L0WeaPSSEg805ujZ7-uADNY1PyifiRXmfUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e63b288f-ea60-f302-8587-a2afa09ace9c@embarqmail.com>
	<CAMDFhzTon+deMxN4kCqRDgEni2AXu24OYC2Ls5UaoimDiFH98w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <639cc32b-6927-d9e8-ed30-7d0166985de9@embarqmail.com>

Mark,

I trust you are using a DMM and not a VOM or other meter that applies a 
high voltage for resistance readings - those can destroy solid state 
devices.

The PA transistor collectors are connected directly to the +12 volt 
power rail, so a short anywhere on that power rail will be indicated as 
a short on the collectors of Q7 and Q8.
Note that this is the first time a resistance reading to the +12v power 
rail is done.

Normally, there is an electrolytic capacitor on that voltage rail which 
will show a resistance value that starts out rather low (about 500 to 
1000 ohms) and will climb with time as the capacitor charges to a higher 
value.? The initial resistance will depend on the voltage your DMM uses 
for measuring resistance.

So if you are seeing a direct short to ground, it is not necessarily a 
problem with Q7 or Q8.? To check the transistors themselves, remove T3 
which will remove Q7/Q8 from the +12 volt power rail.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/4/2020 10:39 PM, Mark Yergin wrote:
> Don - The PA?s have never seen any power nor have I tried to transmit 
> yet.? In the morning I?m going to take all the panels and boards off 
> the RF board and see if I still pass all the resistance checks.? I 
> don?t understand how I can pass the resistance check and then see this 
> behavior when the boards and panels are installed.
>
> Mark W8EWH
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:28 PM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com 
> <mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Mark,
>
>     The most usual cause of a Q7/Q8 short to ground is that the thermal
>     insulators are not installed properly.
>     However, your statement that you see the same with the heatsink off
>     indicates that the Q7 or Q8 transistors have been damaged by a
>     collector
>     to emitter short.? If the K2 was subjected to a transmit without the
>     heatsink installed, that could be reason for the demise of Q7/Q8
>     transistors.
>
>     Make certain that the PA mounting hardware is installed correctly,
>     especially the shoulder washers.
>
>     73,
>     Don W3FPR
>
>     On 1/4/2020 9:11 PM, Mark Yergin wrote:
>     > I'm in the final stages of my K2 build, but having a problem
>     with Q7 and Q8
>     > shorting to ground.? When I did my Resistance Checks on pg 74, I
>     had 3.66K
>     > ohms to ground at the Q7 collector.? So that was fine. But when
>     I put all
>     > the boards and panels on, then attached Q7 and Q8 to the heat
>     sink, I see
>     > about 135 ohms between the Q7 and Q8 collectors and ground.? I
>     assume
>     > that's unacceptable.? I see the same with the heat sink off.?
>     Suggestions?
>


From kh at kh-translation.dk  Sun Jan  5 13:33:57 2020
From: kh at kh-translation.dk (Kjeld Holm)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:33:57 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100 shutting down with no message.
Message-ID: <VI1PR03MB38086F85F7404308CF1F38079D3D0@VI1PR03MB3808.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Dear Elecrafters,

My good old K3/100 has been working fine for many years. Most of the time with at external PA fed with 10 to 25 W. For the time being my PA is down so I am running bare foot 50 W FT8. Some days for many hours with no problems. Some other days the K3 is shutting down after 15 minutes. Front panel temp seems to be below 37 degrees C, PA temp seems to below 56 degrees C. The fan is activated before the shutting down of the K3.

Any suggetions for reason and/or cure?

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld

From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Sun Jan  5 14:26:11 2020
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Sun,  5 Jan 2020 14:26:11 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10146i-F8B1251609B84E5D8407573A01102D9F@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I'm trying to specify what is needed for a radio room here at 
the Rivermead continuing care community. If I place an amplifier 
or a radio (K3 w/remote rig or a K4) in a shack near the 
antenna, what are the environmental requirement for that shack? 
What temperature range, since the minimum weather shelter might 
range from -20F (-30C) to 100F (40C)? What about humidity?

I couldn't find a specification in my copy of the K3S manual and 
I haven't tried the KPA1500/KPA500/KAT500 manuals.

Does anyone know the specs?

TIA & 73 Bill AE6JV

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408-356-8506       | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sun Jan  5 15:04:46 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:04:46 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10146i-F8B1251609B84E5D8407573A01102D9F@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10146i-F8B1251609B84E5D8407573A01102D9F@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <847A0700-6708-4207-961E-C2F311968D08@widomaker.com>

I?ve figured if I?m comfortable the radio should be also. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I'm trying to specify what is needed for a radio room here at the Rivermead continuing care community. If I place an amplifier or a radio (K3 w/remote rig or a K4) in a shack near the antenna, what are the environmental requirement for that shack? What temperature range, since the minimum weather shelter might range from -20F (-30C) to 100F (40C)? What about humidity?
> 
> I couldn't find a specification in my copy of the K3S manual and I haven't tried the KPA1500/KPA500/KAT500 manuals.
> 
> Does anyone know the specs?
> 
> TIA & 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Jan  5 15:05:34 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 12:05:34 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Youth summer job? (outdoors/wildlife biology/etc.)
Message-ID: <44E65D56-6676-49C1-893D-A0B7EBB46A81@elecraft.com>

Apologies in advance for what will likely be the most OT post of the new decade.

If you know of a possible opportunity for a 16-year-old interested in wildlife behavior and conservation, please contact me *off-list*. Griffin hopes to apply his knowledge of animals, birds, plants, and science in general at a summer job this year. Equally important: he wants to live and work outdoors where he can find a use for every blade on his Leatherman's tool :) 

Thanks,

Wayne
N6KR



From ehr at qrv.com  Sun Jan  5 15:37:32 2020
From: ehr at qrv.com (E.H. Russell)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:37:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Youth summer job? (outdoors/wildlife
	biology/etc.)
In-Reply-To: <44E65D56-6676-49C1-893D-A0B7EBB46A81@elecraft.com>
References: <44E65D56-6676-49C1-893D-A0B7EBB46A81@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <042601d5c407$f5161d20$df425760$@qrv.com>

I highly recommend this local group. They often have summer interns. The
very best in nature opportunities (not just birds).

https://njaudubon.org/centers/cape-may-bird-observatory/

73 ED W2RF



-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:06 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Youth summer job? (outdoors/wildlife biology/etc.)

Apologies in advance for what will likely be the most OT post of the new
decade.

If you know of a possible opportunity for a 16-year-old interested in
wildlife behavior and conservation, please contact me *off-list*. Griffin
hopes to apply his knowledge of animals, birds, plants, and science in
general at a summer job this year. Equally important: he wants to live and
work outdoors where he can find a use for every blade on his Leatherman's
tool :) 

Thanks,

Wayne
N6KR


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From gdt at lexort.com  Sun Jan  5 15:40:39 2020
From: gdt at lexort.com (Greg Troxel)
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 15:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
	solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com> (Wayne
	Burdick's message of "Sat, 4 Jan 2020 14:24:15 -0800")
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <rmio8vh63i0.fsf@s1.lexort.com>

Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> writes:

> I finally installed a single 50 W, 12 V solar panel on the roof for
> light backup purposes -- phone/pad/laptop/flashlight charging,
> natural-power use of the KX2/KX3, etc. Connecting the panel directly
> to automotive-style USB chargers works great when the sun is shining.
>
> My 15 year old thinks it's cool. He wants me to turn the mains breaker
> off for a whole day so we can get the full off-grid experience :)
>
> To facilitate that more rigorous purpose, I'd like to add a modest
> battery pack, say 10 to 20 AH, that is charged by the PV panel without
> intervention. The charger has to be compatible with simultaneous
> charge/discharge, i.e. we may need charge USB devices at the same time
> the PV panel is charging the battery. The battery voltage should be 11
> to 12 V minimum after any controller drops so it'll work with the
> radios.

You said "12V" panel, so I am assuming that the V_oc is about 20V.

You have basically a few decisions:

  MPPT controller vs PWM vs on-off

  equipment directly on the battery (well, fused) vs a controller that
  has low-voltage disconnect (LVD)

  battery size

  Lead acid vs LiFEPO4

For me, the hard part is finding a place to mount panels and mounting
them, so paying a bit more for a good controller is cost effective.  I
have a 55W panel with a Genasun GV5 and a 100W panel with a sunforce
on/off controller, and about 200Ah of lead acid batteries, and no low
voltage disconect.  For years I charged solar only, and now I supplement
with a power supply and diode (soon to be better) this time of year (sun
is often shining, but angle is low and behind those pesky trees).

Given that you mention operating and not just phone charging, and you
have only a 55W panel, I recommend an MPPT controller, and basically I
recommend that anyway.  You'll get more power out of the same panel, and
this will be even more noticeable on marginal-sun days.  The Genasun GV5
is big enough for your panel.

The sunforce controller is interesting; it's <$20 and just passes the
panel to the battery until the battery reaches 14.2V, and then opens
until the battery drops to 13V (aimed at lead acid).  This is sort of
ok, but with a panel that's large compared to the battery, the high
current will cause the 14.2 to be hit and you won't fully charge the
battery.  (I'm using it on my 100W panel because I had one handy, and
really I only need that panel when the system sags over the november
low-sun bleak weeks, and then I don't see 14.2V -- but I have 200 Ah to
absorb maybe 6A.  But I should get a GV-10.)

I don't use the LVD, because some of my loads are > 5A occasionally, and
because I have batteries in two places to avoid drop under load (but all
connected).  But the GV5 has output terminals I think with almost no
drop, that will open up at 11.4V or similar.  You might as well use it,
if using lead acid.  With LiFePO4 that has BMS that does that already, I
don't see that it matters and it is probably just complexity you don't
need.

With batteries, unless you are buying new LiFePO4, you should actually
test them.  I have found used batteries to vary from useless to almost
as good as new, and new batteries to be mostly ok but some of them have
been troubled from day one.  I use a West Mountain CBA2.

10 Ah sounds low for using a KX2/3.  Here we have multiple days of
clouds sometimes.

If you can get free lead acid batteries in good shape used (wheelchair
pulls), that's a good plan.  Otherwise you should think hard about
LiFEPO4.

I would recommend that you either get:

  a bunch of 7Ah batteries that were free to good home
  one 33 Ah or more sealed lead acid (almost all are AGM, $60ish each?)
  one or more 73 Ah sealed lead acid if free to good home (often GEL)
  one 20 Ah LiFePO4 (e.g. bioenno), or maybe 12Ah ($200, $100 very ish)

The charge controller needs to match the battery chemistry.  Genasun
configures the GV-5 for LiFePO4.

Probably it makes the most sense to go with LiFEPO4 for the scale of
system you are planning, especially when you consider the voltage on
transmit will be better matched for >5W operation on the KX2/3.  While
the battery is more money, the controller and panel are the same, and I
expect the system to work better and last longer.  Plus you can get away
with not doing tests on incoming batteries.

I also like to have a voltmeter on the battery at all times, visible (7
mA draw LCD intended for cars).  Or an ADC into Home Assistant with
alarms.

Not sure how that relates to "cobbling", but if you just wire the panel
to the GV5, and put a powerpole cable on the battery terminals of the
GV-5 and plug in to a LiFePO4, you're basically done.

73 de n1dam

From gwj at wb9jps.com  Sun Jan  5 15:50:51 2020
From: gwj at wb9jps.com (Gary Johnson)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 12:50:51 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14245.1578254697.13236.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.14245.1578254697.13236.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <5F256324-2224-4FDD-9D94-D0F409E07AFF@wb9jps.com>

I've never seen an operating temperature spec for any ham equipment. When we built our remote station (K3/KPA1500 in an insulated 20 ft shipping container), my main concern was not so much temperature as condensation. Moisture is a slow-motion disaster for unsealed, uncoated circuit boards. Ventilation can help, but there are times when everything is going to be soaking wet. And then there?s dust. So we added a Mitsubishi 1-ton mini-split heat pump with the sepoints pretty wide (55 and 80 F). It doesn't run much but the equipment is dry and clean. Themostat is a Nest, controlled from an app. 

Gary NA6O

> Date: Sun,  5 Jan 2020 14:26:11 -0500
> From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com <mailto:frantz at pwpconsult.com>>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
> 
> I'm trying to specify what is needed for a radio room here at 
> the Rivermead continuing care community. If I place an amplifier 
> or a radio (K3 w/remote rig or a K4) in a shack near the 
> antenna, what are the environmental requirement for that shack? 
> What temperature range, since the minimum weather shelter might 
> range from -20F (-30C) to 100F (40C)? What about humidity?
> 
> I couldn't find a specification in my copy of the K3S manual and 
> I haven't tried the KPA1500/KPA500/KAT500 manuals.
> 
> Does anyone know the specs?
> 
> TIA & 73 Bill AE6JV


From paul at hintlink.com  Sun Jan  5 15:50:56 2020
From: paul at hintlink.com (Paul Evans W4/VP9KF)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:50:56 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd:  K4 Display Question
In-Reply-To: <1f8737d4-f992-ee66-423e-09b4e647dae5@hintlink.com>
References: <1f8737d4-f992-ee66-423e-09b4e647dae5@hintlink.com>
Message-ID: <bcc45fb9-2d57-460d-b557-4128da87de9a@hintlink.com>




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Display Question
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 14:12:07 -0500
From: Paul Evans, W4/VP9KF <w4vp9kf at hintlink.com>
Reply-To: w4vp9kf at hintlink.com
To: Elecraft de W4/VP9KF <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>

You can see why this question is being asked. If used as a remote, then
there is no reason for the display to be on all the time. Given recent
problems with displays on other transceivers, it is prudent to be able
to switch it off.

However, this is something that would need to be under software AND
hardware control. If the hardware isn't in there, then it's too late
because the K4 is surely in final design and with surface mount boards
out for manufacture.

Another question is if the K4 can be used with PoE? Namely, can it be
switched on by an ethernet connection? (obviously not delivering ALL the
power needed, but a 'come alive' signal as provided for in the PoE spec.)

> You can turn the brightness down to something quite low. I wouldn't suggest turning it all the way off, as the display shows critical operating status.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Tom Lizak <k1tl at cox.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Can the K4 display be turned off if one does not want it "on" ?  No flamers,
> > please ! ! ! !

From nz0tham at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 15:59:39 2020
From: nz0tham at gmail.com (NZ0T)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 13:59:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] SKCC K3Y event
In-Reply-To: <884bf7d8-3e66-eeaf-68ab-3eff0a44424c@comcast.net>
References: <884bf7d8-3e66-eeaf-68ab-3eff0a44424c@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1578257979438-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I've been having a lot of fun with the K3Y event using my K3 at 100 watts. 
Have kicked in the KPA500 a few times when I have to.  Currently at 15 K3Y
areas confirmed with 47 of the total 91 slots.

73, Bill NZ0T



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From paul at hintlink.com  Sun Jan  5 16:04:06 2020
From: paul at hintlink.com (Paul Evans W4/VP9KF)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 16:04:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
Message-ID: <7878997f-51b2-4d72-f6ce-c07c448379f4@hintlink.com>

I just went to Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood sites and they quoted operating
temperature ranges for all {amateur} transceivers. This was either under
a dedicated 'specs' area for each model or within the Owner's Manual
[PDF] for each rig.

73, Paul.

From ab4iq at comcast.net  Sun Jan  5 16:37:35 2020
From: ab4iq at comcast.net (Ed Pflueger)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:37:35 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
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All of our Microwave Sites and telecommunications facilities were kept at 70
degrees and 50 percent humidity.  That was from Chicago to New Orleans,
Mobile and Kansas City.  I also had a 2 meter repeater here in Paducah and
it seemed to like the environment it was in.  Matter of fact that's the
parameters I keep my own home in.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Evans W4/VP9KF
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:04 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications

I just went to Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood sites and they quoted operating
temperature ranges for all {amateur} transceivers. This was either under a
dedicated 'specs' area for each model or within the Owner's Manual [PDF] for
each rig.

73, Paul.
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From pfizenmayer at q.com  Sun Jan  5 16:54:28 2020
From: pfizenmayer at q.com (HP)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 16:54:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
Message-ID: <881842158.21807011.1578261268066.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>

I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods - 
I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 80 fpor some antenna 
evaluations. . 

The lore would say its not a good idea ? 

The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 low level out I 
could use for a home brew external amp -The KIO3 transverter bands 
show 160 coded -but other tables talk about just IF of 7 mhz and above. 

BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ????? 


Hank K7HP 

From jackbrindle at me.com  Sun Jan  5 16:58:47 2020
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 13:58:47 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
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References: <mailman.14245.1578254697.13236.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5F256324-2224-4FDD-9D94-D0F409E07AFF@wb9jps.com>
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Probably the biggest limiter will be the LCD. LCDs do not like cold temperatures - anything below freezing can be a problem, but below 10 degrees they tend to stop working and turn black. Yes, the do recover when it gets warm - usually.

I wouldn?t want to subject my station to anything below freezing (or close, for that matter). But then I wouldn?t have moved from Silicon Valley to frozen New Hampshire either? ;-)
For the record, Bill and I are good friends - we are both WVARA and NCCC members, and we used to live just a few miles apart...

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Gary Johnson <gwj at wb9jps.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never seen an operating temperature spec for any ham equipment. When we built our remote station (K3/KPA1500 in an insulated 20 ft shipping container), my main concern was not so much temperature as condensation. Moisture is a slow-motion disaster for unsealed, uncoated circuit boards. Ventilation can help, but there are times when everything is going to be soaking wet. And then there?s dust. So we added a Mitsubishi 1-ton mini-split heat pump with the sepoints pretty wide (55 and 80 F). It doesn't run much but the equipment is dry and clean. Themostat is a Nest, controlled from an app. 
> 
> Gary NA6O
> 
>> Date: Sun,  5 Jan 2020 14:26:11 -0500
>> From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com <mailto:frantz at pwpconsult.com>>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Radio and amplifier environmental specifications
>> 
>> I'm trying to specify what is needed for a radio room here at 
>> the Rivermead continuing care community. If I place an amplifier 
>> or a radio (K3 w/remote rig or a K4) in a shack near the 
>> antenna, what are the environmental requirement for that shack? 
>> What temperature range, since the minimum weather shelter might 
>> range from -20F (-30C) to 100F (40C)? What about humidity?
>> 
>> I couldn't find a specification in my copy of the K3S manual and 
>> I haven't tried the KPA1500/KPA500/KAT500 manuals.
>> 
>> Does anyone know the specs?
>> 
>> TIA & 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
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From donovanf at starpower.net  Sun Jan  5 17:03:56 2020
From: donovanf at starpower.net (donovanf at starpower.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 17:03:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
In-Reply-To: <881842158.21807011.1578261268066.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>
Message-ID: <394219484.6487092.1578261836526.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>

Hi Hank, 


While intuitively it would seem that WSPR is a viable method for 
performing antenna evaluations, extreme short term variability of 
the ionosphere makes it into a heroic task... 


The only viable method I've found -- and it works very well -- 
is to install a reference antenna within about 1/2 wavelength 
of the antenna under test, it MUST have the same polarization 
as the antenna under test and ideally -- to avoid interactions -- 
neither antenna should "look through" the other. 


In almost every case -- unless you have local RFI issues -- 
evaluations performed using your receiver produce nearly identical 
results as using your transmitter. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 




----- Original Message -----

From: "HP" <pfizenmayer at q.com> 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:54:28 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter 

I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods - 
I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 80 fpor some antenna 
evaluations. . 

The lore would say its not a good idea ? 

The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 low level out I 
could use for a home brew external amp -The KIO3 transverter bands 
show 160 coded -but other tables talk about just IF of 7 mhz and above. 

BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ????? 


Hank K7HP 
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From esteptony at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 17:05:36 2020
From: esteptony at gmail.com (Tony Estep)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 16:05:36 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 3:55 PM HP <pfizenmayer at q.com> wrote:

> I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods...
>
===========
I often transmitted on WSPR with my K3. A long keydown can't hurt anything
when you're only running 2 watts.

Tony KT0NY

From dave at nk7z.net  Sun Jan  5 17:09:35 2020
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 14:09:35 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
In-Reply-To: <CACHwrmNnTTg2+3BjAwhyr+uffqVDOZP2205zcXqShaQS5XTDeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <881842158.21807011.1578261268066.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>
	<CACHwrmNnTTg2+3BjAwhyr+uffqVDOZP2205zcXqShaQS5XTDeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Same here, I have run 2 and 5 watts using WSPR, works great with my K3.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/5/20 2:05 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 3:55 PM HP <pfizenmayer at q.com> wrote:
> 
>> I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods...
>>
> ===========
> I often transmitted on WSPR with my K3. A long keydown can't hurt anything
> when you're only running 2 watts.
> 
> Tony KT0NY
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Sun Jan  5 17:11:19 2020
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Sun,  5 Jan 2020 17:11:19 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
In-Reply-To: <881842158.21807011.1578261268066.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10146i-230CA70CB1D648BDA607E85318A4B8C1@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I have run FT8, PSK31, and RTTY a lot on my K3. Even before I 
installed the 100W amp card. I have never had any problem with 
the low power amplifier (LPA) with those modes. I have also run 
those modes at 100W with the KPA3 with no problems. I don't 
think you'll have any problems with the 110.6 second WSPR 
transmit sequence.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/5/20 at 4:54 PM, pfizenmayer at q.com (HP) wrote:

>I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down 
>periods - I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 
>80 fpor some antenna evaluations. .
>The lore would say its not a good idea ?
>The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 
>low level out I could use for a home brew external amp -The 
>KIO3 transverter bands show 160 coded -but other tables talk 
>about just IF of 7 mhz and above.
>BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ?????
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From weaverwf at usermail.com  Sun Jan  5 17:29:14 2020
From: weaverwf at usermail.com (weaverwf)
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 17:29:14 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
Message-ID: <20200105222915.78148260510@mta01.mxof.net>

For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel?

From k9yeq at live.com  Sun Jan  5 20:02:17 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 01:02:17 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Battery Charger for Small Solar Power Syatem
In-Reply-To: <913919391.26481699.1578189272934.JavaMail.zimbra@embarqmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6870D1E3895A9D871DE73D089C3C0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I would echo that.  The used laptop batteries, I have  found, usually have only 1 dead cell.  Be careful when harvesting so as not to short one. Nasty if you do.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Wilson Lamb
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 7:55 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Battery Charger for Small Solar Power Syatem

Start simple...car battery, or borrow from your lawn tractor.
Small charge controller selected for min RFI.
If the kid can concentrate on a job, salvage 18650 cells from old laptop batteries and build packs of whatever size you need.
"Dead laptop batteries usually have just a couple of bad cells and some shops will give/sell them cheap.
Ebay has the plastic hardware for assembling packs without duct tape.
Get single cell chargers from ebay for initial conditioning.
There's a lot of potential learning here!
73,
Wilson
W4BOH
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From david at winarsky.com  Sun Jan  5 20:46:21 2020
From: david at winarsky.com (David Winarsky)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 17:46:21 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Display issue
Message-ID: <4B29A40E-E60D-420B-86AF-2125D494174C@winarsky.com>

Hi all,

I just finished installing and setting up the SVGA option for my P3.  All appears to be working fine, except the spectrum is displayed differently on the monitor than on the P3 itself.  The signals sit above the horizontal divider rather than immediately at it.  When adjusting the ref level, they pop back down to the correct location where they sit at the divider but then begin creeping up again.  This makes adjusting the spectrum properly for the waterfall very difficult.  As I mentioned, this does not happen on the P3 display.

It seems like this has something to do with the averaging, but I?m at a loss for how to correct it.

External display with fill enabled:
https://imgur.com/4GQHKhH <https://imgur.com/4GQHKhH>

External display with fill disabled:
https://imgur.com/71dT7pJ <https://imgur.com/71dT7pJ>

P3 display (notice no bar and the signals sit at the horizontal divider instead of above):
https://imgur.com/gvFbVI8 <https://imgur.com/gvFbVI8>

Appreciate any advice.

73,
David K6ZD

From ve3iay at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 20:48:56 2020
From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 20:48:56 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
Message-ID: <CAJ-xeHnb1Qnd5XgeHgCY=J0-__-2oEYXL3Q7VPvoS=Ta-0H-Pg@mail.gmail.com>

I use an RSP2 as a panadapter. I can feed it either from the K3's IF Out
connector, in which case no protection is needed, or from the K3's RX Ant
Out connector, in which case it is protected by the K3's T/R switch. In
both cases there is a signal present on the SDRplay's input during
transmit, but it is at a low enough level that it is not a concern.

The connection to the RX Ant Out connector is actually a jumper from RX Ant
Out to a splitter plus jumpers from the splitter to the RX Ant In connector
and the SDR's antenna input The splitter I use is actually just a UHF tee
with UHF-to-BNC cables. The K3's RX Ant needs to be engaged to use this
path. This makes using a separate RX antenna somewhat more complicated.

73,
Rich VE3KI

WE5P wrote:

For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF
protection do you use for the SDRplay?

From al7cr at mooseaviation.com  Sun Jan  5 21:40:50 2020
From: al7cr at mooseaviation.com (AL7CR)
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 18:40:50 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
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Message-ID: <c3c98ffa-4715-497a-92ce-50b16f5accc6@www.fastmail.com>

I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with no problems whatever.

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote:
> For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF 
> protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using 
> rock and chisel?
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Jan  5 22:10:09 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 21:10:09 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <c3c98ffa-4715-497a-92ce-50b16f5accc6@www.fastmail.com>
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I used an RSP-1 connected to the IF out quite successfully.  In the end,  I didn?t care for tying up the computer to run HDSDR.   Purchased a P3 and  I?m very satisfied with the results and ease of use. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 8:54 PM, AL7CR <al7cr at mooseaviation.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with no problems whatever.
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote:
>> For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF 
>> protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using 
>> rock and chisel 
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From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 22:24:54 2020
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 03:24:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
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I use none. The K3s has an IF out that requires no protection. I've been 
doing this for over a year with no problem. I drive the panadapter in 
the Win4K3 suite with it, and it controls what I see out of the RSP. 
Works like a champ with nothing special to do.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
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To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 1/5/2020 5:29:14 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter

>For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel
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From weaverwf at usermail.com  Sun Jan  5 22:44:52 2020
From: weaverwf at usermail.com (Bill Weaver)
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 22:44:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <emb1f434c4-77a5-4d93-842b-92ebaca12983@laptop3>
Message-ID: <20200106034453.8C7B42609E5@mta01.mxof.net>

Thanks for the replies guys. I believed that to be true but I'm glad to get some first hand confirmation.73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel?
-------- Original message --------From: Barry <barrylazar2 at gmail.com> Date: 1/5/20  22:25  (GMT-05:00) To: weaverwf <weaverwf at usermail.com>, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter I use none. The K3s has an IF out that requires no protection. I've been doing this for over a year with no problem. I drive the panadapter in the Win4K3 suite with it, and it controls what I see out of the RSP. Works like a champ with nothing special to do.73,BarryK3NDM

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To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 1/5/2020 5:29:14 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter


For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel?
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jan  5 22:57:16 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 19:57:16 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? I turned on the rig and found 20 meters filled with a roaring, windy 
sound.? Just a little QSB, on 40 meters it would be worse. The sun has 
thrown something at the earth.? Enough of it to cause impressive 
aurora.? One tiny sunspot can't be this strong; unless those of cycle 25 
are special.? I say we need more of them so we can test this hypothesis.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

K6XK - Roy - IA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K4JPN - Steve - GA

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ

KC1ACL - Steven - NM


 ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:

KC1ACL - Steven - NM

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ


 ?? Weather reports were of a mild new year.? Even Oregon has had 
moments of sunshine.? If this keeps up I'll need to go hiking.? Or maybe 
it's time to work on antennas.? It is muddy enough.? If the rainy days 
continue I'll get some work done.? If not I'll be too busy working 
outside to get anything done :)


Until next week stay warm and stay well 73,

 ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS


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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Jan  5 22:59:06 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 21:59:06 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
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If either the IF Output or the split approach with RX ANT IN and OUT is 
used, the ports are protected during transmit.?? However, some of the 
SDR receivers are in plastic / unshielded boxes and themselves may not 
be adequately immune to RF.??? If one is concerned, it might be wise to 
attempt to line the inside of the case with foil tape or enclose the 
receiver in a suitable metal box {the way it should have been in the 
first place}.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/5/2020 8:40 PM, AL7CR wrote:

> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with no problems whatever.
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote:
>> For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF
>> protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using
>> rock and chisel
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From ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 23:19:07 2020
From: ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 04:19:07 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power failure.
Message-ID: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>

In the middle of the ARRL 160 contest, my K3 stopped putting out any RF. 
No  explanation that I can think of... all of a sudden, ZERO watts out 
when the radio was keyed, either by software (N1MM+ or WSJT-X) or 
pressing the TUNE button. The TX LED was lit, the meter showed audio, 
which I could hear via the radio MON.

I could not get it to come back. I shut it off for a couple of minutes 
and then it came back.

Everything seemed fine until this weekend's ARRL RTTY Roundup. After 
being on the air for about 4 hours, once again there no was RF output 
(the meter said "0 watts with two dashed lines above it), The radio 
keyed (the TX LED went on and the meter showed audio which could be 
heard via the radio MON), and the meter said "0 watts with two dashed 
lines above it.  I disconnected everything but the antenna, and still... 
no change. I did a system reset. Again, no change.

I quit for he evening and came back in the morning, On a lark, I hooked 
it all back up, and lo and behold, everything worked as if nothing had 
gone wrong.

I'm stumped. I've never opened up the radio -- the only time it was 
opened was at Elecraft last year.

Any advice is appreciated!

73,
Eric W3DQ


From k7sss at aol.com  Sun Jan  5 23:24:44 2020
From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 04:24:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Unable to save a Configuration on a KX3
In-Reply-To: <CAMVuO41Yc082A8RrntauHBRooW5pp5TE7U1yHsY3Ob6LoCV3Zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<CAMVuO41Yc082A8RrntauHBRooW5pp5TE7U1yHsY3Ob6LoCV3Zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <774641596.4665427.1578284684120@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Jonathan,I suspect when you did the factory reset you erased the factory configuration. Contact support at elecraft and ask for a copy of the original configuration. You will need the s/n of the KX3 as the configuration is different for each radio. After restoring the config then try uploading the latest firmware. Next be sure to do a config save after updating. You do not need to do a factory reset when updating the firmware.Good luckJim Hk7sss
In a message dated 1/4/2020 8:59:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, jonathan.morrison at gmail.com writes:

I have had my KX3 (and my ticket) for a year or so now, but I am finally
learning how to use it.? I did a factory reset, uploaded the latest
firmware via KX3Utility on ubuntu (sudo) and then tried to save the kx3
configuration but I receive the following error messages:

What I am doing wrong?

Sincerely,

Jonathan
KI7VZD


From na5n at zianet.com  Sun Jan  5 23:40:01 2020
From: na5n at zianet.com (na5n at zianet.com)
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 21:40:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power failure.
In-Reply-To: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>
References: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>
Message-ID: <20200106044001.51778.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>

Eric Rosenberg writes:

> Everything seemed fine until this weekend's ARRL RTTY Roundup. After  
> being on the air for about 4 hours, once again there no was RF output

Eric,
Sounds like an over temperature problem.  Especially if running RTTY at  
near full power.  The high duty cycle of RTTY can cause the PA to get very  
hot.  When it gets too hot, the radio shuts the transmitter down for  
protection until it cools off in 15-30 minutes.  Too much audio gain/ALC  
can cause the same.  Review the tech manual on transmitter setup about over  
driving the K3 or external amplifier.  Just sounds like you're driving the  
K3 a bit too hard for prolonged periods.

GL es 73, Paul NA5N

From scott.small at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 23:52:18 2020
From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 20:52:18 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <c3c98ffa-4715-497a-92ce-50b16f5accc6@www.fastmail.com>
References: <20200105222915.78148260510@mta01.mxof.net>
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Message-ID: <CADkB6UrxjyEU=wgahwPL-X8NupQ-v9hCL0J1nZKvSGzr54x1aA@mail.gmail.com>

Related...

Suggestion for connecting a kx3+kpa100 to an rsp?

Was trying to figure out how to notch out qrm yesterday that I think was
related to the contest, but not a wide enough passband on the wsjtx
integration to see the real peaks that were involved.

Have an rsp2* but have been afraid to set it up for fear of blowing out the
inputs.

Scott
AD6YT

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 6:41 PM AL7CR <al7cr at mooseaviation.com> wrote:

> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with no
> problems whatever.
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote:
> > For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF
> > protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using
> > rock and chisel
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From jrichards at k8jhr.com  Sun Jan  5 23:54:03 2020
From: jrichards at k8jhr.com (JR)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 23:54:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
Message-ID: <e5535b76-9dcd-bcb2-a8ca-200f44ca3f69@k8jhr.com>

I use a couple of RF limiting protection devices, each purchased on 
eBay.com, with my RSP1a. ? One is Chinese and cost $20,? and the other 
is from Slovenia and cost $32 (I think).?? I have had excellent helpful 
communication with the maker in Slovenia. ? From what I can tell, they 
are each constructed with similar parts/circuits, and limits RF which 
could damage the receiver.?? A local electronics guru / Elmer who used 
to design radio equipment for NASA and the Air Force reviewed them and 
considers them appropriate to the task.?? I use one of these RF limiters 
whether I connect the RSP1a receiver directly to the rig or to a 
separate antenna outside.

Other ops use similar RF limiting devices from Array Solutions and 
DX-Engineering, which I am confident are also appropriate to the task at 
around double the cost of mine.? Just another way to skin the same cat.

Just my take.??? K8JHR
________________________



From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 00:34:34 2020
From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 21:34:34 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
In-Reply-To: <881842158.21807011.1578261268066.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>
References: <881842158.21807011.1578261268066.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>
Message-ID: <CAJSJeL2SsLWPHyHDzPEeZ2diWnOkci2LBB3UTKw80pqgPkQN8A@mail.gmail.com>

I've run my K3 at 5 watts on WSPR, at up to 20% tx percentage, for a week
at a time.  However, the case will get quite warm unless I run a 12v
low-speed fan pointed at the right side of the case.  I'll leave it to the
engineers as to whether this is necessary, but having the case stay
stone-cold makes me feel better.  Fans are available from Amazon and
everywhere else.

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 1:54 PM HP <pfizenmayer at q.com> wrote:

> I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods -
> I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 80 fpor some antenna
> evaluations. .
>
> The lore would say its not a good idea
>

From KY5G at montac.com  Mon Jan  6 03:42:43 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 02:42:43 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <58a86acc-1ae9-7c66-7377-be9c1b808de4@blomand.net>
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Message-ID: <e4728d90-7f8e-14e9-ede1-63495a111a61@montac.com>

On a related but tangent issue...

I just found the following link today:
*http://huprf.com/huprf/k3-if-buffer-pa-k3/*

/_*K3 IF Buffer ? PA K3*_//_*
*_/

/The K3 and successors are recognized as the rig of choice by the vast 
majority of serious contest operators and DX?ers worldwide. When 
combined with the P3 Panoramic Adapter, SDR capabilities can be realized 
on the small P3 screen or on a larger display using the SVGA option.? 
However, if you want to use the IF output to drive any other SDR 
equipment, there are some issues that need addressing ?//
/

  * /??? the output level of the IF port is about 15 to 20dB lower than
    it should be, and/
  * /??? there are strong Local Oscillator signals from the K3 presented
    at the IF Out port ? this is still the case if you run from the P3
    IF Out port.//
    /

/The PA K3 is a small external buffer unit that can be attached to the 
IF out port of any of the series (K3, K3S and P3).?? It provides a 
filter centred on 8.215MHz and an amplifier with approx 20dB of gain, 
bringing signal back up to the correct levels. The filter uses wound 
toroidal inductors, rather than lower Q SMD inductors./

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 From the Technical manual for this buffer assembly:

/In normal operation of the K3/K3S, the nearest LO signals to the IF are 
when operating on Top Band (160m) -see Fig 2 below which was taken from 
a recent K3S.
/*http://huprf.com/huprf/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/PA-K3-Manual-V1_1-1.pdf*/

/I am not smart enough in this part of things to know if this is a 
"real" concern, or "marketing" to sell a buffer/amp kit. YMMV./
/

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/05/20 21:59, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> If either the IF Output or the split approach with RX ANT IN and OUT 
> is used, the ports are protected during transmit.?? However, some of 
> the SDR receivers are in plastic / unshielded boxes and themselves may 
> not be adequately immune to RF.??? If one is concerned, it might be 
> wise to attempt to line the inside of the case with foil tape or 
> enclose the receiver in a suitable metal box {the way it should have 
> been in the first place}.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 1/5/2020 8:40 PM, AL7CR wrote:
>
>> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with 
>> no problems whatever.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote: 

From weaverwf at usermail.com  Mon Jan  6 03:56:46 2020
From: weaverwf at usermail.com (Bill Weaver)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 03:56:46 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <e4728d90-7f8e-14e9-ede1-63495a111a61@montac.com>
Message-ID: <20200106085650.B6433260A86@mta01.mxof.net>

Note that the product line sales have been suspended due to the owners death. The note on the site says that SDRplay will be taking over the product line in the near future.http://huprf.com/huprf/orders-prices/73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel?
-------- Original message --------From: Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> Date: 1/6/20  03:43  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter On a related but tangent issue...I just found the following link today:*http://huprf.com/huprf/k3-if-buffer-pa-k3/*/_*K3 IF Buffer ? PA K3*_//_**_//The K3 and successors are recognized as the rig of choice by the vast majority of serious contest operators and DX?ers worldwide. When combined with the P3 Panoramic Adapter, SDR capabilities can be realized on the small P3 screen or on a larger display using the SVGA option.? However, if you want to use the IF output to drive any other SDR equipment, there are some issues that need addressing ?///? * /??? the output level of the IF port is about 15 to 20dB lower than??? it should be, and/? * /??? there are strong Local Oscillator signals from the K3 presented??? at the IF Out port ? this is still the case if you run from the P3??? IF Out port.//??? //The PA K3 is a small external buffer unit that can be attached to the IF out port of any of the series (K3, K3S and P3).?? It provides a filter centred on 8.215MHz and an amplifier with approx 20dB of gain, bringing signal back up to the correct levels. The filter uses wound toroidal inductors, rather than lower Q SMD inductors./+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From the Technical manual for this buffer assembly:/In normal operation of the K3/K3S, the nearest LO signals to the IF are when operating on Top Band (160m) -see Fig 2 below which was taken from a recent K3S./*http://huprf.com/huprf/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/PA-K3-Manual-V1_1-1.pdf*//I am not smart enough in this part of things to know if this is a "real" concern, or "marketing" to sell a buffer/amp kit. YMMV.//73,______________________Clay Autery, KY5G(318) 518-1389On 01/05/20 21:59, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:> If either the IF Output or the split approach with RX ANT IN and OUT > is used, the ports are protected during transmit.?? However, some of > the SDR receivers are in plastic / unshielded boxes and themselves may > not be adequately immune to RF.??? If one is concerned, it might be > wise to attempt to line the inside of the case with foil tape or > enclose the receiver in a suitable metal box {the way it should have > been in the first place}.>> 73>> Bob, K4TAX>>> On 1/5/2020 8:40 PM, AL7CR wrote:>>> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with >> no problems whatever.>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote: ______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to weaverwf at usermail.com 

From KY5G at montac.com  Mon Jan  6 03:57:18 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 02:57:18 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power failure.
In-Reply-To: <20200106044001.51778.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>
References: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>
	<20200106044001.51778.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>
Message-ID: <b4c7b21f-a81b-9f99-ef46-17fd13565959@montac.com>

Alternatively, you might (if you feel comfortable doing so) open the 
unit up and inspect it for any foreign debris that may have made its way 
into the case, thus challenging the airflow design/volume/velocity.
The PA is in its own shielded enclosure, and thus relies heavily upon 
the fans to suck air through and out of the PA enclosure and overall 
enclosure).

Additionally, I would encourage you to hook the K3 up to a dummy load 
and check to see if the fans are running properly.? Do they spin at all 
when the unit is sitting at idle (PA somewhere around 36C or so in my 
stack).? Then, set power at 100 W and Press and Hold the XMIT/UNE button 
to engage tuning ops in CW mode.? As the PA warms up, the fans should 
start to spin up as indicated by warm airflow increasing in temperature 
and velocity out of the fans on the rear panel.

_*WARNING:*_? Make sure VFO Display is showing the PA temp in the 
display and WATCH IT CLOSELY....? If the fans don't start spinning up 
from slow speed by 40 or 41, tap XMIT and stop the TUNE procedure.? IF 
you forget to tap XMIT, you will put the PA into protection mode at some 
point, and MAY WELL DAMAGE THE PA, et al.

If the fans are not spinning at all, you MAY have dead fans or other 
pwr/signal issues to the fans.
IF the fans don't spin up as PA temp increases, you have issues that I 
am not qualified to help you troubleshoot properly or fix.

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/05/20 22:40, na5n at zianet.com wrote:
> Eric Rosenberg writes:
>
>> Everything seemed fine until this weekend's ARRL RTTY Roundup. After 
>> being on the air for about 4 hours, once again there no was RF output
>
> Eric,
> Sounds like an over temperature problem.? Especially if running RTTY 
> at near full power.? The high duty cycle of RTTY can cause the PA to 
> get very hot.? When it gets too hot, the radio shuts the transmitter 
> down for protection until it cools off in 15-30 minutes.? Too much 
> audio gain/ALC can cause the same.? Review the tech manual on 
> transmitter setup about over driving the K3 or external amplifier.? 
> Just sounds like you're driving the K3 a bit too hard for prolonged 
> periods.
>
> GL es 73, Paul NA5N

From archernf at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 04:03:21 2020
From: archernf at gmail.com (Neil)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 04:03:21 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 FT8
Message-ID: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>

  I have recently added to my K2 the Fixed Audio Output kit that Dave 
W8FGU now has made available.
I wonder if any K2 user has used the K2 with either a Signal Link or the 
Rig blaster Advantage. I would appreciate any feedback.
Thanks
Neil   N4FN

From KY5G at montac.com  Mon Jan  6 04:11:47 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 03:11:47 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <20200106085650.B6433260A86@mta01.mxof.net>
References: <20200106085650.B6433260A86@mta01.mxof.net>
Message-ID: <8a7ded58-0330-d77d-25b7-4b2478a015b6@montac.com>

I am aware of that....? the owners of SDR-Kits has taken on the task of 
maintaining the site and continuing sales of certain products.? They 
hinted at a "short kit" for this part...
IF I can get my hands on enough of a kit and docs to align the board 
properly, I am going to build one for myself and test it on/off my K3s 
IF Out, and the P3 IF out with and without the buffer to see what the 
instruments say AND IF it makes any difference in display.

MOST importantly to me is that I NOT overload my SDRPlay while banging 
out electrons on Top Band. <smile>

Again...? I don't know if this is a "real issue" or a marketing 
deal...?? Seems legit.

PS - Apologize to ALL for the crappy formatting of my previous post....? 
I forget that the mailman.qth.net has incredibly limited styling options 
to improve readability.

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/06/20 02:56, Bill Weaver wrote:
> Note that the product line sales have been suspended due to the owners 
> death. The note on the site says that SDRplay will be taking over the 
> product line in the near future.
>
> http://huprf.com/huprf/orders-prices/
>
> 73,
> Bill WE5P
>
>
>
> Sent using rock and chisel
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com>
> Date: 1/6/20 03:43 (GMT-05:00)
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
>
> On a related but tangent issue...
>
> I just found the following link today:
> *http://huprf.com/huprf/k3-if-buffer-pa-k3/*
>
> /_*K3 IF Buffer ? PA K3*_//_*
> *_/
>
> /The K3 and successors are recognized as the rig of choice by the vast
> majority of serious contest operators and DX?ers worldwide. When
> combined with the P3 Panoramic Adapter, SDR capabilities can be realized
> on the small P3 screen or on a larger display using the SVGA option.
> However, if you want to use the IF output to drive any other SDR
> equipment, there are some issues that need addressing ?//
> /
>
> ? * /??? the output level of the IF port is about 15 to 20dB lower than
> ??? it should be, and/
> ? * /??? there are strong Local Oscillator signals from the K3 presented
> ??? at the IF Out port ? this is still the case if you run from the P3
> ??? IF Out port.//
> ??? /
>
> /The PA K3 is a small external buffer unit that can be attached to the
> IF out port of any of the series (K3, K3S and P3).?? It provides a
> filter centred on 8.215MHz and an amplifier with approx 20dB of gain,
> bringing signal back up to the correct levels. The filter uses wound
> toroidal inductors, rather than lower Q SMD inductors./
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> From the Technical manual for this buffer assembly:
>
> /In normal operation of the K3/K3S, the nearest LO signals to the IF are
> when operating on Top Band (160m) -see Fig 2 below which was taken from
> a recent K3S.
> /*http://huprf.com/huprf/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/PA-K3-Manual-V1_1-1.pdf*/
>
> /I am not smart enough in this part of things to know if this is a
> "real" concern, or "marketing" to sell a buffer/amp kit. YMMV./
> /
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 01/05/20 21:59, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> > If either the IF Output or the split approach with RX ANT IN and OUT
> > is used, the ports are protected during transmit.?? However, some of
> > the SDR receivers are in plastic / unshielded boxes and themselves may
> > not be adequately immune to RF.??? If one is concerned, it might be
> > wise to attempt to line the inside of the case with foil tape or
> > enclose the receiver in a suitable metal box {the way it should have
> > been in the first place}.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/2020 8:40 PM, AL7CR wrote:
> >
> >> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with
> >> no problems whatever.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote:
>

From weaverwf at usermail.com  Mon Jan  6 04:24:58 2020
From: weaverwf at usermail.com (Bill Weaver)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 04:24:58 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <8a7ded58-0330-d77d-25b7-4b2478a015b6@montac.com>
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I'll be looking forward to your review. Due to the type of business that it seemed to be, there probably is some merit to it.73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel?
-------- Original message --------From: Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> Date: 1/6/20  04:11  (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Weaver <weaverwf at usermail.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter 
    I am aware of that....? the owners of SDR-Kits
        has taken on the task of maintaining the site and continuing
        sales of certain products.? They hinted at a "short kit" for
        this part...
        IF I can get my hands on enough of a kit and docs to align the
        board properly, I am going to build one for myself and test it
        on/off my K3s IF Out, and the P3 IF out with and without the
        buffer to see what the instruments say AND IF it makes any
        difference in display.
      
    MOST importantly to me is that I NOT overload
        my SDRPlay while banging out electrons on Top Band.?
        <smile>
      
    Again...? I don't know if this is a "real
        issue" or a marketing deal...?? Seems legit.
        
        PS - Apologize to ALL for the crappy formatting of my previous
        post....? I forget that the mailman.qth.net has incredibly
        limited styling options to improve readability.
    73,
    
    ______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
    On 01/06/20 02:56, Bill Weaver wrote:
    
    
      
      Note that the product line sales have been
        suspended due to the owners death. The note on the site says
        that SDRplay will be taking over the product line in the near
        future.
      
      
      http://huprf.com/huprf/orders-prices/
      
      
      73,
      Bill WE5P
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
        
        Sent using
          rock and chisel?
      
      
      
      
      
      
        -------- Original message --------
        From: Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> 
        Date: 1/6/20 03:43 (GMT-05:00) 
        To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
        Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter 
        
        
      
      On a related but tangent issue...
      
      I just found the following link today:
      *http://huprf.com/huprf/k3-if-buffer-pa-k3/*
      
      /_*K3 IF Buffer ? PA K3*_//_*
      *_/
      
      /The K3 and successors are recognized as the rig of choice by the
      vast 
      majority of serious contest operators and DX?ers worldwide. When 
      combined with the P3 Panoramic Adapter, SDR capabilities can be
      realized 
      on the small P3 screen or on a larger display using the SVGA
      option.? 
      However, if you want to use the IF output to drive any other SDR 
      equipment, there are some issues that need addressing ?//
      /
      
      ? * /??? the output level of the IF port is about 15 to 20dB lower
      than
      ??? it should be, and/
      ? * /??? there are strong Local Oscillator signals from the K3
      presented
      ??? at the IF Out port ? this is still the case if you run from
      the P3
      ??? IF Out port.//
      ??? /
      
      /The PA K3 is a small external buffer unit that can be attached to
      the 
      IF out port of any of the series (K3, K3S and P3).?? It provides a
      
      filter centred on 8.215MHz and an amplifier with approx 20dB of
      gain, 
      bringing signal back up to the correct levels. The filter uses
      wound 
      toroidal inductors, rather than lower Q SMD inductors./
      
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      From the Technical manual for this buffer assembly:
      
      /In normal operation of the K3/K3S, the nearest LO signals to the
      IF are 
      when operating on Top Band (160m) -see Fig 2 below which was taken
      from 
      a recent K3S.
/*http://huprf.com/huprf/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/PA-K3-Manual-V1_1-1.pdf*/
      
      /I am not smart enough in this part of things to know if this is a
      
      "real" concern, or "marketing" to sell a buffer/amp kit. YMMV./
      /
      
      73,
      
      ______________________
      Clay Autery, KY5G
      (318) 518-1389
      
      On 01/05/20 21:59, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
      > If either the IF Output or the split approach with RX ANT IN
      and OUT 
      > is used, the ports are protected during transmit.?? However,
      some of 
      > the SDR receivers are in plastic / unshielded boxes and
      themselves may 
      > not be adequately immune to RF.??? If one is concerned, it
      might be 
      > wise to attempt to line the inside of the case with foil tape
      or 
      > enclose the receiver in a suitable metal box {the way it
      should have 
      > been in the first place}.
      >
      > 73
      >
      > Bob, K4TAX
      >
      >
      > On 1/5/2020 8:40 PM, AL7CR wrote:
      >
      >> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for
      many years with 
      >> no problems whatever.
      >>
      >> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote: 
      
    
  

From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Jan  6 05:36:46 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 05:36:46 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <CADkB6UrxjyEU=wgahwPL-X8NupQ-v9hCL0J1nZKvSGzr54x1aA@mail.gmail.com>
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IF Out and RecAnt in/out are protected during TX. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Tox <scott.small at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Related...
> 
> Suggestion for connecting a kx3+kpa100 to an rsp?
> 
> Was trying to figure out how to notch out qrm yesterday that I think was
> related to the contest, but not a wide enough passband on the wsjtx
> integration to see the real peaks that were involved.
> 
> Have an rsp2* but have been afraid to set it up for fear of blowing out the
> inputs.
> 
> Scott
> AD6YT
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 6:41 PM AL7CR <al7cr at mooseaviation.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I used an SDR-IQ connected directly to the IF out for many years with no
>> problems whatever.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 2:29 PM, weaverwf wrote:
>>> For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF
>>> protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using
>>> rock and chisel
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Mon Jan  6 09:29:39 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 08:29:39 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power failure.
In-Reply-To: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>
References: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>
Message-ID: <88B405E3-B7B3-470A-9D10-8F5D5130921B@blomand.net>

What was the PA temperature?   And how are the fans set in the CONFIG menu.  

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 12:15 AM, Eric Rosenberg <ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?In the middle of the ARRL 160 contest, my K3 stopped putting out any RF. No  explanation that I can think of... all of a sudden, ZERO watts out when the radio was keyed, either by software (N1MM+ or WSJT-X) or pressing the TUNE button. The TX LED was lit, the meter showed audio, which I could hear via the radio MON.
> 
> I could not get it to come back. I shut it off for a couple of minutes and then it came back.
> 
> Everything seemed fine until this weekend's ARRL RTTY Roundup. After being on the air for about 4 hours, once again there no was RF output (the meter said "0 watts with two dashed lines above it), The radio keyed (the TX LED went on and the meter showed audio which could be heard via the radio MON), and the meter said "0 watts with two dashed lines above it.  I disconnected everything but the antenna, and still... no change. I did a system reset. Again, no change.
> 
> I quit for he evening and came back in the morning, On a lark, I hooked it all back up, and lo and behold, everything worked as if nothing had gone wrong.
> 
> I'm stumped. I've never opened up the radio -- the only time it was opened was at Elecraft last year.
> 
> Any advice is appreciated!
> 
> 73,
> Eric W3DQ
> 
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From eric_csuf at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  6 11:02:27 2020
From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (Eric J)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:02:27 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 FT8
In-Reply-To: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
References: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR03MB487489B806FEF5A9F8F9F5208E3C0@DM6PR03MB4874.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

I used mine with a SignaLink for JT65 and JT9 several years ago. No issues. Shouldn't be any with FT8 either. Pulled audio from the K2 using W3FPR's schematic, and fed audio into the mic input. No issues that I remember. Remember you can't run full power in those modes unless you like replacing finals, and follow Don's recommendation for adjusting ALC.

Eric KE6US

On 1/6/2020 1:03 AM, Neil wrote:
 I have recently added to my K2 the Fixed Audio Output kit that Dave W8FGU now has made available.
I wonder if any K2 user has used the K2 with either a Signal Link or the Rig blaster Advantage. I would appreciate any feedback.
Thanks
Neil   N4FN
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From n1rm at arrl.net  Mon Jan  6 11:36:50 2020
From: n1rm at arrl.net (Rick Miller - N1RM)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 09:36:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K4] Any Tech Data?
Message-ID: <1578328610196-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I am in the process of building a station that will use a K4, once it is
delivered.  In the mean time, I'm trying to architect the control aspects of
the station, with amplifier, antenna, and control signal routing.  Nearly
all of the public information on the K4 is marketing "brochure" info. One
thing that would really help me would be any type of high level
documentation of items for which final design decisions have been made. Even
a preliminary high level block diagram showing RF and control signal routing
and interfaces of the radio would be great.  Wayne has been incredibly
responsive to the specific questions that have been asked, but it's a little
hard to piece together the architecture from those items.

I also have one specific question: Is there a plan to have the K4 use
something like UDP broadcast on the Ethernet port to publish radio frequency
and configuration data? If so, would it be in the initial release or added
later? This approach, currently used by DxLab, N1MM+ and others, seems to be
really effective.

I know that getting the radio solid and out the door is top priority, but
keeping the customers informed (many are now actually "investors") should be
pretty close to that ;).  Hopefully there is some useful low-hanging fruit
that Elecraft wouldn't mind sharing.

Happy New Year to all,
Rick
N1RM



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From jonathan.morrison at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 12:43:39 2020
From: jonathan.morrison at gmail.com (Jonathan Morrison)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 10:43:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Unable to save a Configuration on a KX3
In-Reply-To: <CAMVuO41Yc082A8RrntauHBRooW5pp5TE7U1yHsY3Ob6LoCV3Zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<CAMVuO41Yc082A8RrntauHBRooW5pp5TE7U1yHsY3Ob6LoCV3Zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMVuO41AMWc=3Ypjq0Yw6px9J5YkAFdAaLN606tTJMVdHu7PaA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you!

After restoring the factory configuration (sent from support at elecraft.com)
AND sending all firmware to the KX3 -- I am now able to save configurations
again.

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 9:57 PM Jonathan Morrison <jonathan.morrison at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have had my KX3 (and my ticket) for a year or so now, but I am finally
> learning how to use it.  I did a factory reset, uploaded the latest
> firmware via KX3Utility on ubuntu (sudo) and then tried to save the kx3
> configuration but I receive the following error messages:
>
> Activity Log: Configuration was not saved - Error reading EEPROM Data.
> Error Message: *Unable to read EEPROM address 000.000
>
> What I am doing wrong?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan
> KI7VZD
>

From ny9h at arrl.net  Mon Jan  6 13:11:37 2020
From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 13:11:37 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] k4 reservations/// & add ons....
In-Reply-To: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
References: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <be37cf49-54e9-ddcd-7662-c696a206c33e@arrl.net>

hi all...? especially wayne


prior to shipping K4d? will I be advised ???? with the opportunity to 
add an internal tuner ??


sipping a cool purple koolaid.....


bill NY9H



From turnbull at net1.ie  Mon Jan  6 13:53:57 2020
From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:53:57 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10146i-230CA70CB1D648BDA607E85318A4B8C1@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <5e138247.1c69fb81.68ce2.a9a0@mx.google.com>

Dear OMs and YLS,? ? ?Wht not just run 100mW to a Watt?? ? Surely then there is no heating problem.? ?I ask because I am starting the process of using WSPR on my K3.? ?73 Doug? ?EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> Date: 05/01/2020  22:12  (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter I have run FT8, PSK31, and RTTY a lot on my K3. Even before I installed the 100W amp card. I have never had any problem with the low power amplifier (LPA) with those modes. I have also run those modes at 100W with the KPA3 with no problems. I don't think you'll have any problems with the 110.6 second WSPR transmit sequence.73 Bill AE6JVOn 1/5/20 at 4:54 PM, pfizenmayer at q.com (HP) wrote:>I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down >periods - I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and >80 fpor some antenna evaluations. .>The lore would say its not a good idea ?>The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 >low level out I could use for a home brew external amp -The >KIO3 transverter bands show 160 coded -but other tables talk >about just IF of 7 mhz and above.>BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ?????---------------------------------------------------------------------------Bill Frantz??????? | Re IOT: "How many access control systems does it takewww.pwpconsult.com | to change a light bulb?" - Dean Tribble______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie 

From pubx1 at af2z.net  Mon Jan  6 14:35:04 2020
From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 14:35:04 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] RSP-1A as panadapter
In-Reply-To: <20200105222915.78148260510@mta01.mxof.net>
References: <20200105222915.78148260510@mta01.mxof.net>
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I don't use any RF protection. I carefully tested the signal levels on 
my RX loop + RSP1a on all bands and various power outputs from my 
transmitter. The separation/arrangement of my RX and TX antennas (not 
all that much) was sufficient to provide safe signal levels up to 100 
watts output. My RX antenna is a 3-ft dia "magnetic" loop with the LZ1AQ 
preamp.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

On 01/05/20 17:29, weaverwf wrote:
> For those of you using an SDRplay as a panadapter with the K3S, what RF protection do you use for the SDRplay?thanks and 73,Bill WE5PSent using rock and chisel
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From eric at elecraft.com  Mon Jan  6 15:15:25 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:15:25 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] k4 reservations/// & add ons....
In-Reply-To: <be37cf49-54e9-ddcd-7662-c696a206c33e@arrl.net>
References: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
	<be37cf49-54e9-ddcd-7662-c696a206c33e@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <6e956291-c9f3-6b32-9f94-c526f8c47800@elecraft.com>

Hi Bill,

Absolutely!? We notify all customers prior to shipment to reconfirm everything 
on on backlogged items like this.

You also can add options then or at any time.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/
====

On 1/6/2020 10:11 AM, Bill Steffey wrote:
> hi all...? especially wayne
>
> prior to shipping K4d? will I be advised ???? with the opportunity to add an 
> internal tuner ??
>
> sipping a cool purple koolaid.....
>
> bill NY9H


From jh at hoffmaninv.com  Mon Jan  6 16:30:53 2020
From: jh at hoffmaninv.com (W8JH)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 14:30:53 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
	solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1578346253246-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I cannot recommend highly enough the DIY solar forum.  It to solar is what
the Elecraft forum is to ham radio, really!

The owner, Will Prowse, has a ton of youtube video's about DIY solar and has
"cookbook" type recommendations that would be stupid simple to put together.

LiFePO4 batteries are the cheapest in the long run when you consider depth
of discharge (available power) and number of cycles for the life of the
battery (buy once, cry once).

Take a look here:  https://diysolarforum.com/

And here:  https://www.mobile-solarpower.com/





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73,

Joe, W8JH

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From vk5zm at bistre.net  Mon Jan  6 18:54:43 2020
From: vk5zm at bistre.net (Matthew Cook)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:24:43 +1030
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Australian fires
In-Reply-To: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
References: <30A304BA-AE57-4FDC-8AD0-1FEDDBC6A756@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CAE+2d_2M6fCcotf+-Kf2teMCkKy_v1NjL14WC7o3cfaV0vm8fA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Wayne et al,

For those that are curious about the fires here in Australia you can take a
peek at our Rural Fire Service and Country Fire Service pages...  The black
areas in all cases are fire grounds, both past (1-week) and present.

https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me
https://apps.geohub.sa.gov.au/CFSMap/index.html
https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/

The conditions this year across all of Australia are unprecedented, which
now includes a tropical cyclone in our states north west;

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml

Our thoughts go out to those that seem to be under attack on all fronts and
we thank you for your kind words !

73

Matthew
VK5ZM

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 02:28, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Our thoughts go out to our Australian customers and their families, as
> well as the thousands of other Australians affected by wildfires.
>
> California, too, has seen record droughts and wildfires in recent years,
> so we can empathize. But the number of fires in VK as well as their wide
> geographical impact appears to dwarf ours.
>
> Wishing you better luck in the new year--
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
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From ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 19:42:27 2020
From: ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 19:42:27 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power failure.
In-Reply-To: <88B405E3-B7B3-470A-9D10-8F5D5130921B@blomand.net>
References: <emc0bda948-d133-42a0-bcd8-e21455a7895a@eric>
	<88B405E3-B7B3-470A-9D10-8F5D5130921B@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <CAGX_=kcN0OomSe=DsibOSc0EWOaJoifvxNw5avvxusMK7t3+dQ@mail.gmail.com>

W3LPL and other mentioned the PA temp and sagging power supply.

I didn't think to check the PA temp  until later (how much later, I don't
know),  If I remember correctly, it was 35C. In both cases, I was operating
in a contest (ARRL 160 and ARRL RTTY RU) with the RF power set to 100w

Sitting in front of the rig now (been powered for 15 or so minutes), the PA
is 26C.What did catch my eye was the voltage and current at the rig: 13.3v
& 1.2a in RX

I then keyed the radio, brought the power to 100w, it's a the voltage went
to 11.8v/17.9a and then shut down. The voltage went up to 13.3v/1.2a but
still no output. PA temp is 31C

I swapped power the Astron power supply for an Alinco DM-330MV switching
supply (1 ft power cable to the radio). I set the power supply so the radio
reads 14.5v. I also turned up the fan up to level 4 (it hadn't gone on
previously).. The radio read 14.5v/1.3A on RX. PA temp 22C, FP temp 30C in
RX

Still no TX output, although the radio went to 14.2v and 2.3a when I first
keyed the radio. It quickly ramps up to ~4.a and stays there until I unkey
it.

Any ideas as to what's going on?

73, Eric W3DQ




On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:29 AM Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:

> What was the PA temperature?   And how are the fans set in the CONFIG
> menu.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 6, 2020, at 12:15 AM, Eric Rosenberg <ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?In the middle of the ARRL 160 contest, my K3 stopped putting out any
> RF. No  explanation that I can think of... all of a sudden, ZERO watts out
> when the radio was keyed, either by software (N1MM+ or WSJT-X) or pressing
> the TUNE button. The TX LED was lit, the meter showed audio, which I could
> hear via the radio MON.
> >
> > I could not get it to come back. I shut it off for a couple of minutes
> and then it came back.
> >
> > Everything seemed fine until this weekend's ARRL RTTY Roundup. After
> being on the air for about 4 hours, once again there no was RF output (the
> meter said "0 watts with two dashed lines above it), The radio keyed (the
> TX LED went on and the meter showed audio which could be heard via the
> radio MON), and the meter said "0 watts with two dashed lines above it.  I
> disconnected everything but the antenna, and still... no change. I did a
> system reset. Again, no change.
> >
> > I quit for he evening and came back in the morning, On a lark, I hooked
> it all back up, and lo and behold, everything worked as if nothing had gone
> wrong.
> >
> > I'm stumped. I've never opened up the radio -- the only time it was
> opened was at Elecraft last year.
> >
> > Any advice is appreciated!
> >
> > 73,
> > Eric W3DQ
> >
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From k9yeq at live.com  Mon Jan  6 20:15:39 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 01:15:39 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet.  The observers haven't noted the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  But at least we have experienced a couple.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of kevinr
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:57 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

Good Evening,

 ?? I turned on the rig and found 20 meters filled with a roaring, windy sound.? Just a little QSB, on 40 meters it would be worse. The sun has thrown something at the earth.? Enough of it to cause impressive aurora.? One tiny sunspot can't be this strong; unless those of cycle 25 are special.? I say we need more of them so we can test this hypothesis.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

K6XK - Roy - IA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K4JPN - Steve - GA

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ

KC1ACL - Steven - NM


 ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:

KC1ACL - Steven - NM

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ


 ?? Weather reports were of a mild new year.? Even Oregon has had moments of sunshine.? If this keeps up I'll need to go hiking.? Or maybe it's time to work on antennas.? It is muddy enough.? If the rainy days continue I'll get some work done.? If not I'll be too busy working outside to get anything done :)


Until next week stay warm and stay well 73,

 ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS


-


https://www.saveur.com/sicilian-almond-pesto-eggplant-pasta-recipe/

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From scott.small at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 22:59:27 2020
From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 19:59:27 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CADkB6UozXewWr8zYaK3dCrONPFYdjYs+sw2ntrhTrtxxVqd+tw@mail.gmail.com>

Found link:
https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2019/12/25/reversed-polarity-sunspots-appear-on-the-sun/

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 5:15 PM Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:

> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet.  The observers haven't noted the
> tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a
> calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest
> in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.
> Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.
> But at least we have experienced a couple.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> https://wrj-tech.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> On Behalf Of kevinr
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
>
> Good Evening,
>
>     I turned on the rig and found 20 meters filled with a roaring, windy
> sound.  Just a little QSB, on 40 meters it would be worse. The sun has
> thrown something at the earth.  Enough of it to cause impressive aurora.
> One tiny sunspot can't be this strong; unless those of cycle 25 are
> special.  I say we need more of them so we can test this hypothesis.
>
>
>    On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
>
> K6XK - Roy - IA
>
> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
>
> K4JPN - Steve - GA
>
> K0JFJ - Nick - AZ
>
> KC1ACL - Steven - NM
>
>
>    On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:
>
> KC1ACL - Steven - NM
>
> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
>
> K6PJV - Dale - CA
>
> K0JFJ - Nick - AZ
>
>
>     Weather reports were of a mild new year.  Even Oregon has had moments
> of sunshine.  If this keeps up I'll need to go hiking.  Or maybe it's time
> to work on antennas.  It is muddy enough.  If the rainy days continue I'll
> get some work done.  If not I'll be too busy working outside to get
> anything done :)
>
>
> Until next week stay warm and stay well 73,
>
>      Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
> -
>
>
> https://www.saveur.com/sicilian-almond-pesto-eggplant-pasta-recipe/
>
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From KY5G at montac.com  Mon Jan  6 23:39:11 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 22:39:11 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <7704db7e-95bc-b1a1-adb9-5477c7efdc8e@montac.com>

ACTUALLY, I just read an article yesterday... don't remember where, that 
said exactly that.... that they are noticing the poll reversal 
beginning, or beginning to begin....? something like that...? <smile>

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/06/20 19:15, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet.  The observers haven't noted the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  But at least we have experienced a couple.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> https://wrj-tech.com/
>

From david at n4xro.com  Mon Jan  6 23:44:08 2020
From: david at n4xro.com (David Poole N4XRO)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 20:44:08 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <7704db7e-95bc-b1a1-adb9-5477c7efdc8e@montac.com>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<7704db7e-95bc-b1a1-adb9-5477c7efdc8e@montac.com>
Message-ID: <98DA870A-577C-405D-8C58-B431968707B0@n4xro.com>

I believe the article you?re referring to is here:
https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=24&month=12&year=2019 <https://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=24&month=12&year=2019>


> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> ACTUALLY, I just read an article yesterday... don't remember where, that said exactly that.... that they are noticing the poll reversal beginning, or beginning to begin....  something like that...  <smile>
> 
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> 
> On 01/06/20 19:15, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet.  The observers haven't noted the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  But at least we have experienced a couple.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>> 
>> https://wrj-tech.com/
>> 
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From n6jpa.1 at gmail.com  Tue Jan  7 00:16:30 2020
From: n6jpa.1 at gmail.com (Keith N6JPA)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 21:16:30 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <8705f256-7190-9ad3-26fd-253987eab368@gmail.com>

Not according the space weather gal!

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkXjdDQ-db0xz8f4PKgKsag>



On 1/6/2020 5:15 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet.  The observers haven't noted the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  But at least we have experienced a couple.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> https://wrj-tech.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of kevinr
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
>
> Good Evening,
>
>   ?? I turned on the rig and found 20 meters filled with a roaring, windy sound.? Just a little QSB, on 40 meters it would be worse. The sun has thrown something at the earth.? Enough of it to cause impressive aurora.? One tiny sunspot can't be this strong; unless those of cycle 25 are special.? I say we need more of them so we can test this hypothesis.
>
>
>   ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
>
> K6XK - Roy - IA
>
> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
>
> K4JPN - Steve - GA
>
> K0JFJ - Nick - AZ
>
> KC1ACL - Steven - NM
>
>
>   ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:
>
> KC1ACL - Steven - NM
>
> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
>
> K6PJV - Dale - CA
>
> K0JFJ - Nick - AZ
>
>
>   ?? Weather reports were of a mild new year.? Even Oregon has had moments of sunshine.? If this keeps up I'll need to go hiking.? Or maybe it's time to work on antennas.? It is muddy enough.? If the rainy days continue I'll get some work done.? If not I'll be too busy working outside to get anything done :)
>
>
> Until next week stay warm and stay well 73,
>
>   ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS
>
>
> -
>
>
> https://www.saveur.com/sicilian-almond-pesto-eggplant-pasta-recipe/
>
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From neilz at techie.com  Tue Jan  7 01:27:16 2020
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 01:27:16 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 FT8
In-Reply-To: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
References: <5E12F7D9.3000206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5E1424C4.2000205@techie.com>

I've used my K2 to work WSJT-X modes for a year now, using the external
speaker audio out, and a cable connected to the mic for audio in.
They connect to a $10 USB soundcard from Amazon.    The rig is connected
using the AUXBUS serial cable, to a USB adapter to the computer, which
runs DXLabs Commander.    WSJT-X is has Commander set as the rig.

Works great for under $35.00, cost of audio cables, soundcard, and USB
serial adapter (FTDI chip).

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 1/6/2020 4:03 AM, Neil wrote:
>  I have recently added to my K2 the Fixed Audio Output kit that Dave
> W8FGU now has made available.
> I wonder if any K2 user has used the K2 with either a Signal Link or
> the Rig blaster Advantage. I would appreciate any feedback.
> Thanks
> Neil   N4FN
>


From G0ORH at sky.com  Tue Jan  7 04:18:54 2020
From: G0ORH at sky.com (Ken Chandler)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 09:18:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 fault
References: <F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B.ref@sky.com>
Message-ID: <F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B@sky.com>

Hi guys
While I'm waiting for Elecraft support to come forward with a suggestion, I thought I'd share my KPA500 (sn 0212) Amp's fault to see if it rings any new year bells with anyone...hi
Just be4 Xmas I started getting an occasional fault whereby the Standby switch would lock up, then after a few minutes another press of STBY and it would go Green.
However now it's locked on STBY and won't budge plus all the other press switches are locked out too like EDIT etc.
Other strange things are happening too, pressing tapping EDIT changes the band in the Amp.
In 2019, I installed the USB kit into my K3, previous to this I've fully upgraded the K3 to full spec.
When the K3 and Amp are both turned on the Amp senses the K3's current band setting, but everything on the Amp is locked up.

Appreciate any info or suggestions chaps! 

HNY
Regards

Ken.. G0ORH - K3 full K line plus K2.

Sent from my iPad



From wa2lbi at gmail.com  Tue Jan  7 06:26:42 2020
From: wa2lbi at gmail.com (Ken Winterling)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 06:26:42 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 fault
In-Reply-To: <F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B@sky.com>
References: <F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B.ref@sky.com>
	<F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B@sky.com>
Message-ID: <CALK4bwgv5K5VycFqFnGH=hVktRtgS-C3ajKuiAiNoGRYr9f3-g@mail.gmail.com>

Ken,

I have the same amp but have not experienced the problem you describe.
When issues like this occur it is best to isolate the suspect device to
minimize the variables.

Before doing anything have you tried turning off the power switch on the
rear of the amp?  Wait 10 seconds then turn the switch to ON.  Press the
front panel power ON button and check the panel buttons.

If that doesn't correct the issue then disconnect every cable from the amp
except the power cord and antenna.  Connect the amp to a dummy load.  Turn
off the power switch on the rear of the amp.  Wait 10 seconds then turn the
switch to ON.  Press the front panel power ON button and check the
panel buttons.

If that fails to correct the problem you probably need Elecraft support.

Keep the group posted.

Ken
WA2LBI





On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:19 AM Ken Chandler <G0ORH at sky.com> wrote:

> Hi guys
> While I'm waiting for Elecraft support to come forward with a suggestion,
> I thought I'd share my KPA500 (sn 0212) Amp's fault to see if it rings any
> new year bells with anyone...hi
> Just be4 Xmas I started getting an occasional fault whereby the Standby
> switch would lock up, then after a few minutes another press of STBY and it
> would go Green.
> However now it's locked on STBY and won't budge plus all the other press
> switches are locked out too like EDIT etc.
> Other strange things are happening too, pressing tapping EDIT changes the
> band in the Amp.
> In 2019, I installed the USB kit into my K3, previous to this I've fully
> upgraded the K3 to full spec.
> When the K3 and Amp are both turned on the Amp senses the K3's current
> band setting, but everything on the Amp is locked up.
>
> Appreciate any info or suggestions chaps!
>
> HNY
> Regards
>
> Ken.. G0ORH - K3 full K line plus K2.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Jan  7 09:15:41 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 08:15:41 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 fault
In-Reply-To: <CALK4bwgv5K5VycFqFnGH=hVktRtgS-C3ajKuiAiNoGRYr9f3-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B.ref@sky.com>
	<F71B6768-912F-4267-94E1-9AA727EA603B@sky.com>
	<CALK4bwgv5K5VycFqFnGH=hVktRtgS-C3ajKuiAiNoGRYr9f3-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <917ca1a5-3f84-20e1-876d-544cd003a824@blomand.net>

Have you tried to reload the firmware??? Sounds as though a bit or two 
is out of place.??? Use the KPA500 Utility to accomplish this.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/7/2020 5:26 AM, Ken Winterling wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I have the same amp but have not experienced the problem you describe.
> When issues like this occur it is best to isolate the suspect device to
> minimize the variables.
>
> Before doing anything have you tried turning off the power switch on the
> rear of the amp?  Wait 10 seconds then turn the switch to ON.  Press the
> front panel power ON button and check the panel buttons.
>
> If that doesn't correct the issue then disconnect every cable from the amp
> except the power cord and antenna.  Connect the amp to a dummy load.  Turn
> off the power switch on the rear of the amp.  Wait 10 seconds then turn the
> switch to ON.  Press the front panel power ON button and check the
> panel buttons.
>
> If that fails to correct the problem you probably need Elecraft support.
>
> Keep the group posted.
>
> Ken
> WA2LBI
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:19 AM Ken Chandler <G0ORH at sky.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>> While I'm waiting for Elecraft support to come forward with a suggestion,
>> I thought I'd share my KPA500 (sn 0212) Amp's fault to see if it rings any
>> new year bells with anyone...hi
>> Just be4 Xmas I started getting an occasional fault whereby the Standby
>> switch would lock up, then after a few minutes another press of STBY and it
>> would go Green.
>> However now it's locked on STBY and won't budge plus all the other press
>> switches are locked out too like EDIT etc.
>> Other strange things are happening too, pressing tapping EDIT changes the
>> band in the Amp.
>> In 2019, I installed the USB kit into my K3, previous to this I've fully
>> upgraded the K3 to full spec.
>> When the K3 and Amp are both turned on the Amp senses the K3's current
>> band setting, but everything on the Amp is locked up.
>>
>> Appreciate any info or suggestions chaps!
>>
>> HNY
>> Regards
>>
>> Ken.. G0ORH - K3 full K line plus K2.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Jan  7 09:24:23 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 08:24:23 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <8705f256-7190-9ad3-26fd-253987eab368@gmail.com>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<8705f256-7190-9ad3-26fd-253987eab368@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ec08d4c-15e7-520b-3b46-c0ee63b871b8@blomand.net>

I've gotten to where I distrust YOUTUBE content more and more. As Will 
Rodgers said;? "it not what people know that concerns me, it is what 
they know that isn't correct that gives me concerns".

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 1/6/2020 11:16 PM, Keith N6JPA wrote:
> Not according the space weather gal!
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkXjdDQ-db0xz8f4PKgKsag>
>
>
>
> On 1/6/2020 5:15 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet. The observers haven't noted 
>> the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.? The cycles 
>> don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle 
>> is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the 
>> change from now until 2021.? Once the expected polarization happens 
>> then that should be the beginning.? But at least we have experienced 
>> a couple.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>>
>> https://wrj-tech.com/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of kevinr
>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:57 PM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
>>
>> Good Evening,
>>
>> ? ?? I turned on the rig and found 20 meters filled with a roaring, 
>> windy sound.? Just a little QSB, on 40 meters it would be worse. The 
>> sun has thrown something at the earth.? Enough of it to cause 
>> impressive aurora.? One tiny sunspot can't be this strong; unless 
>> those of cycle 25 are special.? I say we need more of them so we can 
>> test this hypothesis.
>>
>>
>> ? ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
>>
>> K6XK - Roy - IA
>>
>> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
>>
>> K4JPN - Steve - GA
>>
>> K0JFJ - Nick - AZ
>>
>> KC1ACL - Steven - NM
>>
>>
>> ? ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:
>>
>> KC1ACL - Steven - NM
>>
>> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
>>
>> K6PJV - Dale - CA
>>
>> K0JFJ - Nick - AZ
>>
>>
>> ? ?? Weather reports were of a mild new year.? Even Oregon has had 
>> moments of sunshine.? If this keeps up I'll need to go hiking.? Or 
>> maybe it's time to work on antennas.? It is muddy enough.? If the 
>> rainy days continue I'll get some work done.? If not I'll be too busy 
>> working outside to get anything done :)
>>
>>
>> Until next week stay warm and stay well 73,
>>
>> ? ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> https://www.saveur.com/sicilian-almond-pesto-eggplant-pasta-recipe/
>>
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Jan  7 13:11:27 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:11:27 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <8705f256-7190-9ad3-26fd-253987eab368@gmail.com>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<8705f256-7190-9ad3-26fd-253987eab368@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <655c3d3f-9df9-3040-eaaa-1450501f3f2e@foothill.net>

There have been a small handful of high latitude, Cycle 25 polarity 
spots show up.? Most haven't lasted long enough to get #'s assigned but 
it's a good sign.? All you ever want to know about the sun can be found 
at solarham.com

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 1/6/2020 9:16 PM, Keith N6JPA wrote:
> Not according the space weather gal!
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkXjdDQ-db0xz8f4PKgKsag>
>
>
>
> On 1/6/2020 5:15 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet. The observers haven't noted 
>> the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.? The cycles 
>> don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle 
>> is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the 
>> change from now until 2021.? Once the expected polarization happens 
>> then that should be the beginning.? But at least we have experienced 
>> a couple.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ


From jstengrevics at comcast.net  Tue Jan  7 13:42:49 2020
From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 13:42:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <655c3d3f-9df9-3040-eaaa-1450501f3f2e@foothill.net>
References: <7bd609e1-9319-e633-780f-ee9315e21db0@coho.net>
	<CH2PR02MB6870E68E5D05DB2D060C5C0A9C3F0@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<8705f256-7190-9ad3-26fd-253987eab368@gmail.com>
	<655c3d3f-9df9-3040-eaaa-1450501f3f2e@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <BA49412E-5EEB-4527-AA9B-53CB876A8F4C@comcast.net>

Cycle 25 sunspots have been appearing with increasing regularity:  https://www.youtube.com/user/SpWxfx <https://www.youtube.com/user/SpWxfx>

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> There have been a small handful of high latitude, Cycle 25 polarity spots show up.  Most haven't lasted long enough to get #'s assigned but it's a good sign.  All you ever want to know about the sun can be found at solarham.com
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 1/6/2020 9:16 PM, Keith N6JPA wrote:
>> Not according the space weather gal!
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkXjdDQ-db0xz8f4PKgKsag>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/6/2020 5:15 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>>> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet. The observers haven't noted the tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  But at least we have experienced a couple.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Bill
>>> K9YEQ
> 
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From bob at hogbytes.com  Tue Jan  7 15:55:46 2020
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 13:55:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Battery and charger recommendations for 50 watt
	solar panel
In-Reply-To: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1578430546516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Might try something like this.  Same components under lots of brand names.
Has solar controller builtin, USB and 12V out as well as limited 120VAC. 
Easy to carry and portable.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KPYSN3S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



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From dick at elecraft.com  Tue Jan  7 17:56:10 2020
From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 14:56:10 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Testers needed
Message-ID: <006901d5c5ad$a7a4b0e0$f6ee12a0$@elecraft.com>

We're about ready to release an update to the Windows version of the K3
Utility.  While there are no sweeping changes, there are a lot of little
changes, new compiler, help text, fixed-speed capability.

 

Can a few of you help me test it? 

 

Please reply directly to me.

 

73 de Dick, K6KR

dick at elecraft.com

 


From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Jan  7 18:13:15 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 15:13:15 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] 30 Day Price increase Alert
Message-ID: <6c6da96f-bbf5-f9ff-7b3a-8f6855176168@elecraft.com>

Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:

Our costs have continued to increase as our vendors increase their prices to us 
and of course our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep 
costs down..) We've been absorbing all of these increases to date, but now we 
have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a wide range of our 
products.

The prices are scheduled to change on Monday, Feb. 3rd.? Our on-line order forms 
will update with the new pricing at that time.

Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which 
specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do 
not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting all of our costs? 
reviewed and then getting the final price changes entered.)

Of course, all orders received -prior- to the increase date of Feb 3rd will be 
charged at the lower current pricing,? even if they ship after the price 
increase date.

73,

-- 
Eric
elecraft.com


From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Jan  7 19:13:25 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 16:13:25 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] 30 Day Price increase Alert
In-Reply-To: <6c6da96f-bbf5-f9ff-7b3a-8f6855176168@elecraft.com>
References: <6c6da96f-bbf5-f9ff-7b3a-8f6855176168@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <4c4bd847-6739-cc73-4673-ef1ed780475d@elecraft.com>

Clarification on my prior posting:

The price increase note below does not directly apply to pre-orders for the K4. 
We're finalizing pricing now as we get a better feel for parts pricing, tarriffs 
on parts, local assembly cost here etc.? We hope to keep it reasonably close to 
the deposit amounts.

One other item: its a 28 day notice, not 30.? ;-)

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 1/7/2020 3:13 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>
> Our costs have continued to increase as our vendors increase their prices to 
> us and of course our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to 
> keep costs down..) We've been absorbing all of these increases to date, but 
> now we have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a wide 
> range of our products.
>
> The prices are scheduled to change on Monday, Feb. 3rd.? Our on-line order 
> forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which 
> specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do 
> not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting all of our 
> costs? reviewed and then getting the final price changes entered.)
>
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the increase date of Feb 3rd will be 
> charged at the lower current pricing,? even if they ship after the price 
> increase date.
>
> 73,
>


From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Jan  7 19:15:18 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 16:15:18 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] 30 Day Price increase Alert
In-Reply-To: <6c6da96f-bbf5-f9ff-7b3a-8f6855176168@elecraft.com>
References: <6c6da96f-bbf5-f9ff-7b3a-8f6855176168@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <b8fcf1bb-8617-c678-eafc-09fd0a4baff0@elecraft.com>

Also, tariffs was spelled incorrectly with two r's in the original email.??? 
Typing too fast today!



From DuvallArtisanLeather at Comcast.net  Tue Jan  7 21:03:47 2020
From: DuvallArtisanLeather at Comcast.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 19:03:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Unable to save a Configuration on a KX3
In-Reply-To: <774641596.4665427.1578284684120@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <01C50D5B-4E8B-4D87-82CD-DD4F881A6A7B@elecraft.com>
	<CAMVuO41Yc082A8RrntauHBRooW5pp5TE7U1yHsY3Ob6LoCV3Zg@mail.gmail.com>
	<774641596.4665427.1578284684120@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1578449027160-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I had the exact same problem when I updated a few days ago. I am running
Ubuntu 18.04 if that matters. My KX3 SW was several years old so maybe the
install forced a factory reset to do the update. I did not select factory
reset.The radio appears to be working but I have not tried to Transmit since
the update.  I will ask for a replacement config file and see if that fixes
the config save issue. Thanks for the quick post of the fix. 

Mike
AC4ZQ




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From akengineering at live.com  Wed Jan  8 15:36:45 2020
From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:36:45 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Message-ID: <BN8PR06MB5394D693730CA362B1E47212D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other devices...

I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together.

Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you connect them?


Aubrey Mason
WA6DMI
San Antonio

From wunder at wunderwood.org  Wed Jan  8 16:00:43 2020
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 13:00:43 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
In-Reply-To: <BN8PR06MB5394D693730CA362B1E47212D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BN8PR06MB5394D693730CA362B1E47212D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <8DCF9102-07AF-45AD-8470-9558813DA732@wunderwood.org>

From the website for KX3 Companion:

"It connects to your KX3 by using the USB Serial cable that comes with the radio. You?ll also need an inexpensive OTG Cable adapter to connect the serial USB to your mobile device. You can find them for a very few dollars. No other cables are needed!?

https://kx3companion.com

I don?t know any other details. I don?t use that app and I don?t have any Android devices.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com> wrote:
> 
> As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other devices...
> 
> I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together.
> 
> Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you connect them?
> 
> 
> Aubrey Mason
> WA6DMI
> San Antonio
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From pwborders at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 16:17:40 2020
From: pwborders at gmail.com (Peter Borders)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:17:40 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] WBN: Restartable Server Operation for Elecraft
	Remote Apps
In-Reply-To: <CANVONAJ_xMoNjjw2DWha-n-reA2gYemxKpWXga3bVdR084x06g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVONAJ_xMoNjjw2DWha-n-reA2gYemxKpWXga3bVdR084x06g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADaMHKaATw-21fCBNz-CEJnjMiheSdXQOJaq5YkPPRh0VwG9AA@mail.gmail.com>

If you don't mind a little simple programming check out the program AUTOIT
(do a google search).

It allows you to automate windows programs even simulating mouse clicks on
specific buttons and such, might be able to do what you want.

Pete Borders WB4TKA

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:24 AM Rick Tavan <rick at tavan.com> wrote:

> It would be nice if KPA500 Remote, KAT500 Remote, and KPA1500 Remote could
> be set up to operate as *automatically restartable servers*. I don't think
> they can do this today, but if I'm wrong, someone please enlighten me!
>
> Here's the scenario: These apps all have Host Remote capability. When
> enabled, they listen for connection from a client-side instance of the same
> app. But it takes two or three mouse clicks to set this up AFTER launching
> the server-side programs. If the server computer on which they run suffers
> a power failure, it can reboot automatically when power is restored (not
> all computers will do this, but many can). However, it's necessary to
> restart the app manually, tell it to start hosting, and, at least for
> KPA1500, turn the amp back off since the app turns it on during its
> initialization process. It would be nice if they had a setting that means
> "Automatically go into remote hosting mode and turn OFF the device (or
> don't turn it on) upon startup." Then, unattended power failures would be
> largely transparent to the control-side user.
>
> 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> --
> --
>
> Rick Tavan
> Truckee and Saratoga, CA
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From akengineering at live.com  Wed Jan  8 16:28:56 2020
From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:28:56 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw:  KX3 with KX3 Companion application
In-Reply-To: <BN8PR06MB53949E1071A3C093179C2261D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BN8PR06MB5394D693730CA362B1E47212D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>,
	<8DCF9102-07AF-45AD-8470-9558813DA732@wunderwood.org>,
	<BN8PR06MB53949E1071A3C093179C2261D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <BN8PR06MB5394111069B4F712939A3812D03E0@BN8PR06MB5394.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>



________________________________
From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application

That part is understood... I have read all the materials from Elecraft and the publisher of KX3 Companion....
And I've called Elecraft Customer Support.

That said;
Receiver spectrum data is on the Rec IQ jack and I've been told by someone that they think the KX3 ACC1 should be connected to the USB of the display device using the KX3 serial cable with a USB adapter to fit the USB port of the display device, then the Rec IQ of the KX3 connected to the microphone input of the display device to complete the connections for a Spectrum display...

I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.


Aubrey Mason
WA6DMI
San Antonio

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:00 PM
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application

>From the website for KX3 Companion:

"It connects to your KX3 by using the USB Serial cable that comes with the radio. You?ll also need an inexpensive OTG Cable adapter to connect the serial USB to your mobile device. You can find them for a very few dollars. No other cables are needed!?

https://kx3companion.com

I don?t know any other details. I don?t use that app and I don?t have any Android devices.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com> wrote:
>
> As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other devices...
>
> I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together.
>
> Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you connect them?
>
>
> Aubrey Mason
> WA6DMI
> San Antonio
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From Lyn at LNAINC.com  Wed Jan  8 16:49:06 2020
From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:49:06 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
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Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth.

 

I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300.  With that unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the FIRST TUNE request.  It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8).

 

The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on the 7300.

 

Lyn, W0LEN

 

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM
To: Tom KG3V
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information

 

Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which bands.   You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 to know what to do. 

 

If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the issue.  Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not available. 

 

Bob, K4TAX

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:

> 

> ?Don,

> 

> Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season.

> 

> I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired antenna.

> 

> I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" antenna?

> 

> 73,

> 

> Tom, KG3V

> 

> 

> 

>> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>> Tom,

>> 

>> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the KPA500, those results are completely understandable.

>> 

>> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500).

>> 

>> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong antenna initially.  Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use.

>> 

>> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it will behave properly, so use that sequence.

>> 

>> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from the KAT500 to the KPA500.

>> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done only with the exciter power level.

>> 

>> 73 and HNY,

>> Don W3FPR

>> 

>>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote:

>>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 for all other Bands, in the KAT Config.

>>> 

>>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change to the correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong antenna. The second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct antenna. If instead, I change Bands and hit the Key, the correct antenna is selected. That is fine on CW, but not great for other Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this could be desirable. I think this would be especially bad if I have the KPA-500 powered-ON.

>>> 

> -- 

> Get on the Air and make some noise

> Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM

> 

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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  8 16:51:04 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:51:04 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
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Aubrey,

Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?  If set to OFF 
(the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
> 
> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
> 

From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 16:53:37 2020
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 21:53:37 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
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Aubrey
     I've done a lot of things with KX3. But first, you need to tell me 
what companion app you are using. The best that I've used so far is 
Win4K3 with com0com.  Win4K3 acts as the center of integration for what 
you are going to do on your computer, Com0com is the port replicator 
that creates all of the virtual ports you will use to connect almost 
everything.

     There are two cables you will need, one is the cable for the I&Q 
output and the other is the serial cable that plugs into the radio. You 
will use the I&Q data to drive a good sound card for spectrum display 
and to drive apps like CW Skimmer; Skimmer will use one of those virtual 
ports.

The first thing you will need to know is what "real" port the radio is 
using. You tell Win4K3 what that is. You will need to create virtual 
port pairs using com0com, and I would create a naming scheme for them 
like starting at com10. And next decide which side of the pairs you will 
use for Win4K3 and which side goes to the app that you need to control. 
I use even numbers for Win4K3 and odd number for the app. It's all 
pretty straight forward once you see it. And, the serial cable plugs 
into ACC1. Lastly. write down what you've set up for reference; it will 
save you in the future.

73,
Barry
K3NDM


------ Original Message ------
From: "Aubrey Mason" <akengineering at live.com>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 1/8/2020 4:28:56 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application

>
>
>________________________________
>From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
>To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>
>That part is understood... I have read all the materials from Elecraft and the publisher of KX3 Companion....
>And I've called Elecraft Customer Support.
>
>That said;
>Receiver spectrum data is on the Rec IQ jack and I've been told by someone that they think the KX3 ACC1 should be connected to the USB of the display device using the KX3 serial cable with a USB adapter to fit the USB port of the display device, then the Rec IQ of the KX3 connected to the microphone input of the display device to complete the connections for a Spectrum display...
>
>I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
>None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
>
>
>Aubrey Mason
>WA6DMI
>San Antonio
>
>________________________________
>From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:00 PM
>To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>
>From the website for KX3 Companion:
>
>"It connects to your KX3 by using the USB Serial cable that comes with the radio. You?ll also need an inexpensive OTG Cable adapter to connect the serial USB to your mobile device. You can find them for a very few dollars. No other cables are needed!?
>
>https://kx3companion.com
>
>I don?t know any other details. I don?t use that app and I don?t have any Android devices.
>
>wunder
>K6WRU
>Walter Underwood
>CM87wj
>http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>>  On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com> wrote:
>>
>>  As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other devices...
>>
>>  I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together.
>>
>>  Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you connect them?
>>
>>
>>  Aubrey Mason
>>  WA6DMI
>>  San Antonio
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From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 17:01:23 2020
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 22:01:23 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
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Aubrey,
     A point that I missed, make sure your mic input is actually stereo 
and not mono, many are. It must be stereo.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Don Wilhelm" <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
To: "Aubrey Mason" <akengineering at live.com>; "Elecraft Reflector" 
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 1/8/2020 4:51:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application

>Aubrey,
>
>Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?  If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
>>To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>>
>>I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
>>None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
>>
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  8 17:16:29 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:16:29 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
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In addition to requiring a stereo input (Mic or Line In), an internal 
soundcard may not have sufficient bandwidth for a panadapter 
application, and an external soundcard may be needed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/8/2020 5:01 PM, Barry wrote:
> Aubrey,
> ??? A point that I missed, make sure your mic input is actually stereo 
> and not mono, many are. It must be stereo.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Don Wilhelm" <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Aubrey Mason" <akengineering at live.com>; "Elecraft Reflector" 
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 1/8/2020 4:51:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>
>> Aubrey,
>>
>> Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?? If set to 
>> OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
>>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>>>
>>> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
>>> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio 
>>> cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
>>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From KG3V at ChesBayVA.com  Wed Jan  8 19:54:45 2020
From: KG3V at ChesBayVA.com (Tom KG3V)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
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Lyn,

That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not 
understand. It sounds like your setup is working as I would have 
expected. I also have a 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do 
not usually use the 7300 with the KAT-500 and I am a little worried 
about powering the KAT-500 from the 7300.

73,

Tom, KG3V


On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>
> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth.
>
> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300.? With that 
> unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with 
> the */FIRST /*TUNE request.? It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the 
> KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8).
>
> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes 
> on the 7300.
>
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM
> To: Tom KG3V
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
>
> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for 
> which bands.?? You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for 
> the KAT 500 to know what to do.
>
> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse 
> the issue.? Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is 
> not available.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > ?Don,
>
> >
>
> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in 
> the past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season.
>
> >
>
> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant 
> on the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It 
> does not seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you 
> confirmed that it is working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As 
> soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course there is RF. I guess the 
> KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I 
> switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna 
> for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not complete with 
> a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired antenna.
>
> >
>
> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the 
> KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the 
> KAT-500 during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band 
> info, this would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the 
> "correct" antenna?
>
> >
>
> > 73,
>
> >
>
> > Tom, KG3V
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> >> Tom,
>
> >>
>
> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button 
> on the KPA500, those results are completely understandable.
>
> >>
>
> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the 
> KAT500 yet - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the 
> KAT500).
>
> >>
>
> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the 
> wrong antenna initially.? Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that 
> the band is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the 
> band in use.
>
> >>
>
> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first 
> and it will behave properly, so use that sequence.
>
> >>
>
> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the 
> keying cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and 
> then from the KAT500 to the KPA500.
>
> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning 
> is done only with the exciter power level.
>
> >>
>
> >> 73 and HNY,
>
> >> Don W3FPR
>
> >>
>
> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote:
>
> >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not 
> providing BAND data, which is in line with recommendations for 
> connecting this radio in the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me 
> that RF Frequency-sensing overrides all other information. I have two 
> antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 
> meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 
> for all other Bands, in the KAT Config.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change 
> to the correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong 
> antenna. The second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct 
> antenna. If instead, I change Bands and hit the Key, the correct 
> antenna is selected. That is fine on CW, but not great for other 
> Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this could be desirable. I think 
> this would be especially bad if I have the KPA-500 powered-ON.
>
> >>>
>
> > --
>
> > Get on the Air and make some noise
>
> > Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM
>
> >
>
> > ______________________________________________________________
>
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Jan  8 20:19:01 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:19:01 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
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Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are usually STEREO?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Aubrey,
> 
> Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?  If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
>> ________________________________
>> From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
>> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
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From kd4iz at frawg.org  Wed Jan  8 21:06:11 2020
From: kd4iz at frawg.org (Jack Spitznagel)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:06:11 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
In-Reply-To: <d0bae802-2265-64b3-9244-0e235925edc3@ChesBayVA.com>
References: <d0bae802-2265-64b3-9244-0e235925edc3@ChesBayVA.com>
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Hi Tom,

I am also a very happy KPA500/KAT500 user with an IC7000, 7100, and 7300. I home brewed my own interface for the antenna tuner and the ?big DIN? connector. They all start an autoswitch routine to memorized frequency values that is fast and accurate.

I always put the KPA500 in standby when I change bands that require an antenna switch over.

Never owned a better Amp/Tuner combo.

Jack - KD4IZ 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 19:55, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Lyn,
> 
> That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the 7300.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Tom, KG3V
> 
> 
>> On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> 
>> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth.
>> 
>> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300.  With that unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST /*TUNE request.  It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8).
>> 
>> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on the 7300.
>> 
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM
>> To: Tom KG3V
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
>> 
>> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which bands.   You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 to know what to do.
>> 
>> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the issue.  Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not available.
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > ?Don,
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season.
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired antenna.
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" antenna?
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > 73,
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > Tom, KG3V
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> 
>> >> Tom,
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the KPA500, those results are completely understandable.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500).
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong antenna initially.  Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it will behave properly, so use that sequence.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from the KAT500 to the KPA500.
>> 
>> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done only with the exciter power level.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> 73 and HNY,
>> 
>> >> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote:
>> 
>> >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 for all other Bands, in the KAT Config.
>> 
>> >>>
>> 
>> >>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change to the correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong antenna. The second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct antenna. If instead, I change Bands and hit the Key, the correct antenna is selected. That is fine on CW, but not great for other Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this could be desirable. I think this would be especially bad if I have the KPA-500 powered-ON.
>> 
>> >>>
>> 
>> > --
>> 
>> > Get on the Air and make some noise
>> 
>> > Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM
>> 
>> >
>> 
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From Lyn at LNAINC.com  Wed Jan  8 21:48:56 2020
From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:48:56 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
In-Reply-To: <092964A8-CEAA-4AD4-B735-70C9A0316B0A@frawg.org>
References: <d0bae802-2265-64b3-9244-0e235925edc3@ChesBayVA.com>
	<092964A8-CEAA-4AD4-B735-70C9A0316B0A@frawg.org>
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Tom -

There is no problem in powering the KAT500 from the IC7300.  Works like a charm, and powers as the Icom AH4 tuner does.

73
Lyn, W?LEN


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Spitznagel [mailto:kd4iz at frawg.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 8:06 PM
To: Tom KG3V
Cc: Lyn at lnainc.com; Bob McGraw K4TAX; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information

Hi Tom,

I am also a very happy KPA500/KAT500 user with an IC7000, 7100, and 7300. I home brewed my own interface for the antenna tuner and the ?big DIN? connector. They all start an autoswitch routine to memorized frequency values that is fast and accurate.

I always put the KPA500 in standby when I change bands that require an antenna switch over.

Never owned a better Amp/Tuner combo.

Jack - KD4IZ 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 19:55, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Lyn,
> 
> That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the 7300.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Tom, KG3V
> 
> 
>> On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> 
>> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth.
>> 
>> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300.  With that unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST /*TUNE request.  It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8).
>> 
>> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on the 7300.
>> 
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM
>> To: Tom KG3V
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
>> 
>> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which bands.   You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 to know what to do.
>> 
>> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the issue.  Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not available.
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > ?Don,
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season.
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired antenna.
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" antenna?
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > 73,
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > Tom, KG3V
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> 
>> >> Tom,
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the KPA500, those results are completely understandable.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500).
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong antenna initially.  Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it will behave properly, so use that sequence.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from the KAT500 to the KPA500.
>> 
>> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done only with the exciter power level.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> 73 and HNY,
>> 
>> >> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote:
>> 
>> >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 for all other Bands, in the KAT Config.
>> 
>> >>>
>> 
>> >>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change to the correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong antenna. The second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct antenna. If instead, I change Bands and hit the Key, the correct antenna is selected. That is fine on CW, but not great for other Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this could be desirable. I think this would be especially bad if I have the KPA-500 powered-ON.
>> 
>> >>>
>> 
>> > --
>> 
>> > Get on the Air and make some noise
>> 
>> > Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > ______________________________________________________________
>> 
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>> 
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From Lyn at LNAINC.com  Wed Jan  8 21:51:01 2020
From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:51:01 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
In-Reply-To: <092964A8-CEAA-4AD4-B735-70C9A0316B0A@frawg.org>
References: <d0bae802-2265-64b3-9244-0e235925edc3@ChesBayVA.com>
	<092964A8-CEAA-4AD4-B735-70C9A0316B0A@frawg.org>
Message-ID: <0be501d5c697$a0d14bd0$e273e370$@LNAINC.com>

Jack -

I don't see any need to do that.  The tuner cuts the amp until the new antenna is tuned.

73
Lyn, W?LEN


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Spitznagel [mailto:kd4iz at frawg.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 8:06 PM
To: Tom KG3V
Cc: Lyn at lnainc.com; Bob McGraw K4TAX; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information

Hi Tom,

I am also a very happy KPA500/KAT500 user with an IC7000, 7100, and 7300. I home brewed my own interface for the antenna tuner and the ?big DIN? connector. They all start an autoswitch routine to memorized frequency values that is fast and accurate.

I always put the KPA500 in standby when I change bands that require an antenna switch over.

Never owned a better Amp/Tuner combo.

Jack - KD4IZ 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 19:55, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Lyn,
> 
> That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the 7300.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Tom, KG3V
> 
> 
>> On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> 
>> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth.
>> 
>> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300.  With that unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST /*TUNE request.  It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8).
>> 
>> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on the 7300.
>> 
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM
>> To: Tom KG3V
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
>> 
>> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which bands.   You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 to know what to do.
>> 
>> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the issue.  Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not available.
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V <KG3V at chesbayva.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > ?Don,
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season.
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired antenna.
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" antenna?
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > 73,
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > Tom, KG3V
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> 
>> >> Tom,
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the KPA500, those results are completely understandable.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500).
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong antenna initially.  Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it will behave properly, so use that sequence.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from the KAT500 to the KPA500.
>> 
>> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done only with the exciter power level.
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >> 73 and HNY,
>> 
>> >> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote:
>> 
>> >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 for all other Bands, in the KAT Config.
>> 
>> >>>
>> 
>> >>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change to the correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong antenna. The second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct antenna. If instead, I change Bands and hit the Key, the correct antenna is selected. That is fine on CW, but not great for other Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this could be desirable. I think this would be especially bad if I have the KPA-500 powered-ON.
>> 
>> >>>
>> 
>> > --
>> 
>> > Get on the Air and make some noise
>> 
>> > Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> > ______________________________________________________________
>> 
>> > Elecraft mailing list
>> 
>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  8 21:56:38 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:56:38 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
In-Reply-To: <814E3D5A-BD33-4481-9C1C-1C54F6E2C391@widomaker.com>
References: <b6220751-ab8c-14d5-2919-6b721ff5261c@embarqmail.com>
	<814E3D5A-BD33-4481-9C1C-1C54F6E2C391@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <62b0ec70-db50-34e6-2dfe-0c6f25d53883@embarqmail.com>

Bill,

It depends on the computer and the external soundcard - so the answer is 
'maybe'.
In general, if there is only one input, and it is configured for MIC, it 
will be mono.? If configured for LINE, it will be stereo.

So it depends on the soundcard settings.? If there are separate MIC and 
LINE inputs, check your computer specs.? There is no one answer other 
than "it all depends".

My college professor's advice back in 1966 was "Technician/Engineer, 
know your equipment and its capabilities as well as its limitations" - 
that still applies today.? One cannot speak in generalities about any 
equipment type unless the specifics are known - study the specifications 
for the proper answers to your specific equipment.

Based on that information, the one answer to your question is "maybe".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/8/2020 8:19 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are usually STEREO?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Aubrey,
>>
>> Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?  If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
>>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
>>> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
>>> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
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From rick.nk7i at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 22:12:49 2020
From: rick.nk7i at gmail.com (Rick NK7I)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:12:49 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
In-Reply-To: <0be501d5c697$a0d14bd0$e273e370$@LNAINC.com>
References: <0be501d5c697$a0d14bd0$e273e370$@LNAINC.com>
Message-ID: <F7C736F8-0DB4-494B-A7A8-D10DE3535F36@gmail.com>

True but there are tuning solutions that appear safe at low power yet exceed the amp return voltage allowances at high power (it isn?t the best tuning mix) and trip the amp. 

The amp is re-enabled as soon as the tuning is completed, a risk. 

So it?s wise to at least test the match after tuning, with the amp on, with just the tuning energy and if ok (medium power out of the amp), then raise to the desired level of output for a ?final? test.  At least until the tuner has been programmed for all bins in each band. 

Using resonant antennas is SO much simpler. ?

Rick NK7I

Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Lyn Norstad <Lyn at lnainc.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Jack -
> 
> I don't see any need to do that.  The tuner cuts the amp until the new antenna is tuned.
> 
> 73
> Lyn, W?LEN

From dave.w0zf at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 23:09:44 2020
From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 22:09:44 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
In-Reply-To: <62b0ec70-db50-34e6-2dfe-0c6f25d53883@embarqmail.com>
References: <b6220751-ab8c-14d5-2919-6b721ff5261c@embarqmail.com>
	<814E3D5A-BD33-4481-9C1C-1C54F6E2C391@widomaker.com>
	<62b0ec70-db50-34e6-2dfe-0c6f25d53883@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF==Uf2TvxcU3vHsTQ7E83P38XkYgAD-ShyK-njxYPyqWRJPHQ@mail.gmail.com>

The original question was not about a PC at all - it was about an Android
app called KX3 Companion running on an Android tablet.

The application website states in one place that the USB cable that comes
with the KX3, plus an OTG cable, are all that is needed.  However, later in
states that a new feature has been added to display the audio spectrum and
waterfall, and this requires one extra cable (from audio outpu of the KX3
to the audio input jack of the Android device).

 Aubrey, you didn't say whether you got the CAT control functions of the
app working or not.  I'd advise you to make sure that's working before
dealing with the waterfall/spectrum display.

It's important with Android apps like this that you have a true "OTG"
cable, AND that your Android device includes OTG support (not all do).

The OTG cable lets you plug USB devices (like thumb drives, keyboards,
etc.) into an Android device. Some cables have the proper connectors but
are not wired to support OTG, so make sure you have the right cable.

You must also verify that your tablet supports OTG in the first place. Look
for an app called USB OTG Checker - this will tell you whether your tablet
supports OTG.  If so, any OTG cable should work, and you should be able to
control the KX3 with the app.

Once that works, you can connect the audio output from the KX3 to the
tablet's microphone input and see if the spectrum display works. Depending
on your tablet, you may need some kind of adapter to split out the
microphone input (some tablets and phones combine the mic input with the
headphone jack).

Near as I can tell, this is strictly a audio spectrum scope and does not
take advantage of the quadrature (I/Q) output of the KX3. The author does
state that you can use one channel of the I/Q output as your audio feed if
you like, or you can take it from the Phones jack.



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:57 PM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> It depends on the computer and the external soundcard - so the answer is
> 'maybe'.
> In general, if there is only one input, and it is configured for MIC, it
> will be mono.  If configured for LINE, it will be stereo.
>
> So it depends on the soundcard settings.  If there are separate MIC and
> LINE inputs, check your computer specs.  There is no one answer other
> than "it all depends".
>
> My college professor's advice back in 1966 was "Technician/Engineer,
> know your equipment and its capabilities as well as its limitations" -
> that still applies today.  One cannot speak in generalities about any
> equipment type unless the specifics are known - study the specifications
> for the proper answers to your specific equipment.
>
> Based on that information, the one answer to your question is "maybe".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/8/2020 8:19 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> > Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are
> usually STEREO?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Aubrey,
> >>
> >> Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?  If set to
> OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >>> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Aubrey Mason <akengineering at live.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
> >>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
> >>> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
> >>> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio
> cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com  Thu Jan  9 05:32:18 2020
From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 10:32:18 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] CORRECTION! Re:  KX3 with KX3 Companion application
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14724.1578520165.13236.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.14724.1578520165.13236.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <503dc6a4-d77c-96c8-7021-bf07f5573a45@googlemail.com>

Sorry, just noticed from the KX3 companion website, that I/Q input is
not needed, just the audio output (via an attenuator into the tablet's
mic input) the waterfall it shows is just the recovered AF bandwidth,
not like other tools.?? But that will need a 1:2 audio
splitter/attenuator, so you can have phones and tablet connected at the
same time.? (Not difficult to make.)

Quite frankly, a tablet PC, with Fldigi would be my choice to do all
that.? Waterfall, logging, decent decoding, and the ability to run many
different modes, plus fire up WSJTx and the like as an alternative
option to Fldigi.? (But then the fun starts with to-the-second timing...)

73 again.

Dave G0WBX.


On 08/01/2020 21:49, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application

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From bjahnke at gmail.com  Thu Jan  9 13:09:49 2020
From: bjahnke at gmail.com (Bart Jahnke)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 13:09:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
Message-ID: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Thinning my heard.

FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use it
deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
(friends and family) or USPS Money Order!

See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldtosearch=call

73 Bart W9JJ

From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Thu Jan  9 14:34:01 2020
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 12:34:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
In-Reply-To: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6cc60341-4629-59b1-de1c-67abac6914b6@triconet.org>

Since the S/N is lower than 10,000 it's not a K3S, regardless of what 
synthesizer it has.? Suggesting someone drive an amplifier with this set to 12 
watts is a disservice to other hams.? It's a 10-watt radio with two extra watts 
of IMD when operated this way.? This coming from an ARRL staffer is particularly 
troubling to me.

Wes? N7WS


On 1/9/2020 11:09 AM, Bart Jahnke wrote:
> All,
>
> Thinning my heard.
>
> FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use it
> deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
> 5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
> added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
> 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
> manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
> enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
> (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>
> See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldtosearch=call
>
> 73 Bart W9JJ
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From josh at voodoolab.com  Thu Jan  9 15:19:22 2020
From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 12:19:22 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted KSYN3A upgrade kit
Message-ID: <6dd96a0c-f38f-292c-cc37-19003f7b9d46@voodoolab.com>

Anyone have a synth upgrade kit they're not going to install?

Please reply off-list only!

Thanks & 73,
Josh W6XU

From KY5G at montac.com  Thu Jan  9 19:02:12 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 18:02:12 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
In-Reply-To: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f2866178-aaba-690b-3479-14a7968be865@montac.com>

I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding.? No one would intentionally 
misrepresent their Elecraft gear in this way.

There is NO REASONABLE WAY to make a K3 into a K3s...? It may be an 
upgraded K3, but it can NEVER be a K3s.

Please correct your listing... :-)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/09/20 12:09, Bart Jahnke wrote:
> All,
>
> Thinning my heard.
>
> FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use it
> deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
> 5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
> added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
> 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
> manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
> enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
> (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>
> See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldtosearch=call
>
> 73 Bart W9JJ
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From rboutell at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  9 19:45:28 2020
From: rboutell at hotmail.com (Russ W9RB)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 17:45:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted KSYN3A upgrade kit
In-Reply-To: <6dd96a0c-f38f-292c-cc37-19003f7b9d46@voodoolab.com>
References: <6dd96a0c-f38f-292c-cc37-19003f7b9d46@voodoolab.com>
Message-ID: <1578617128051-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I understand you may be looking for a bargain on one. They are still
available for sale, but can be a bit hard to find. I see them when going to
Quick Order, then K3 Upgrades.
https://elecraft.com/pages/k-line-transceiver-k3-k3s



-----
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From ve3uvt at gmail.com  Thu Jan  9 20:07:18 2020
From: ve3uvt at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 20:07:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
In-Reply-To: <f2866178-aaba-690b-3479-14a7968be865@montac.com>
References: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<f2866178-aaba-690b-3479-14a7968be865@montac.com>
Message-ID: <CALdHbXhw6+yrYfwCkF5buy5c_dQMrObqFyTyhDyikBdPsYEv_w@mail.gmail.com>

Calling an upgraded K3 a K3s may be an overstatement, but the price seems
pretty good for an upgraded K3s.

Chris AD1AD


On Thursday, January 9, 2020, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:

> I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding.  No one would intentionally
> misrepresent their Elecraft gear in this way.
>
> There is NO REASONABLE WAY to make a K3 into a K3s...  It may be an
> upgraded K3, but it can NEVER be a K3s.
>
> Please correct your listing... :-)
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 01/09/20 12:09, Bart Jahnke wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Thinning my heard.
>>
>> FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use
>> it
>> deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
>> 5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
>> added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
>> 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
>> manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
>> enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
>> (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>>
>> See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldt
>> osearch=call
>>
>> 73 Bart W9JJ
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From merv.k9fd at gmail.com  Thu Jan  9 21:51:25 2020
From: merv.k9fd at gmail.com (K9FD)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:51:25 -1000
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
In-Reply-To: <CALdHbXhw6+yrYfwCkF5buy5c_dQMrObqFyTyhDyikBdPsYEv_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<f2866178-aaba-690b-3479-14a7968be865@montac.com>
	<CALdHbXhw6+yrYfwCkF5buy5c_dQMrObqFyTyhDyikBdPsYEv_w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2c4ed3b9-5da0-4093-c303-2b0bd5e62902@gmail.com>

realize its a 10 watter,? and only says the synth was upgraded,? if you 
upgrade to 100W
and the other new boards for that serial number you are talking pretty 
expensive,
well over another 1000 bucks,
Right now there are a number of K3 radios with all updates and both 
receivers,? full of filters
for sale and? prices are under 2000 bucks.?? lot cheaper than updating a 
10 watter with one
receiver.?? Have seen them as low as 1400 for both receivers, 100w and 
all updated boards.


> Calling an upgraded K3 a K3s may be an overstatement, but the price seems
> pretty good for an upgraded K3s.
>
> Chris AD1AD
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding.  No one would intentionally
>> misrepresent their Elecraft gear in this way.
>>
>> There is NO REASONABLE WAY to make a K3 into a K3s...  It may be an
>> upgraded K3, but it can NEVER be a K3s.
>>
>> Please correct your listing... :-)
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 01/09/20 12:09, Bart Jahnke wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Thinning my heard.
>>>
>>> FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use
>>> it
>>> deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
>>> 5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
>>> added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
>>> 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
>>> manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
>>> enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
>>> (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>>>
>>> See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldt
>>> osearch=call
>>>
>>> 73 Bart W9JJ
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan  9 21:57:49 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 02:57:49 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
In-Reply-To: <2c4ed3b9-5da0-4093-c303-2b0bd5e62902@gmail.com>
References: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<f2866178-aaba-690b-3479-14a7968be865@montac.com>
	<CALdHbXhw6+yrYfwCkF5buy5c_dQMrObqFyTyhDyikBdPsYEv_w@mail.gmail.com>,
	<2c4ed3b9-5da0-4093-c303-2b0bd5e62902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB68703E80881D86E7F0A5A83D9C380@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

This sounds like better directed personally rather than to reflector.   I think your advice is right on.
Bill
K9YEQ

Bill
920-421-1172

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Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 8:51:25 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS

realize its a 10 watter,  and only says the synth was upgraded,  if you
upgrade to 100W
and the other new boards for that serial number you are talking pretty
expensive,
well over another 1000 bucks,
Right now there are a number of K3 radios with all updates and both
receivers,  full of filters
for sale and  prices are under 2000 bucks.   lot cheaper than updating a
10 watter with one
receiver.   Have seen them as low as 1400 for both receivers, 100w and
all updated boards.


> Calling an upgraded K3 a K3s may be an overstatement, but the price seems
> pretty good for an upgraded K3s.
>
> Chris AD1AD
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding.  No one would intentionally
>> misrepresent their Elecraft gear in this way.
>>
>> There is NO REASONABLE WAY to make a K3 into a K3s...  It may be an
>> upgraded K3, but it can NEVER be a K3s.
>>
>> Please correct your listing... :-)
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 01/09/20 12:09, Bart Jahnke wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Thinning my heard.
>>>
>>> FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use
>>> it
>>> deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
>>> 5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
>>> added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
>>> 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
>>> manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
>>> enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
>>> (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>>>
>>> See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldt
>>> osearch=call
>>>
>>> 73 Bart W9JJ
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From KY5G at montac.com  Fri Jan 10 00:03:11 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 23:03:11 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS
In-Reply-To: <CALdHbXhw6+yrYfwCkF5buy5c_dQMrObqFyTyhDyikBdPsYEv_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMROFkpjWuMm4M_ADCvV9bzJmVVMkYhU_ybP4-AqdBPdvscZMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<f2866178-aaba-690b-3479-14a7968be865@montac.com>
	<CALdHbXhw6+yrYfwCkF5buy5c_dQMrObqFyTyhDyikBdPsYEv_w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dcc55ba2-3658-b9cd-1340-22b16f0febe5@montac.com>

It is not an "overstatement".... it is a falsehood, unintentional though 
it might be.

No PA or tuner?? And the PAs and Tuners are being stuffed into the last 
few K3s/100 packages....
Better act fast if you ever want them... :-)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/09/20 19:07, Chris wrote:
> Calling an upgraded K3 a K3s may be an overstatement, but the price 
> seems pretty good for an upgraded K3s.
>
> Chris AD1AD
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com 
> <mailto:KY5G at montac.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding.? No one would
>     intentionally misrepresent their Elecraft gear in this way.
>
>     There is NO REASONABLE WAY to make a K3 into a K3s...? It may be
>     an upgraded K3, but it can NEVER be a K3s.
>
>     Please correct your listing... :-)
>
>     ______________________
>     Clay Autery, KY5G
>     (318) 518-1389
>
>     On 01/09/20 12:09, Bart Jahnke wrote:
>
>         All,
>
>         Thinning my heard.
>
>         FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not
>         getting the use it
>         deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10
>         transceiver, serial
>         5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the
>         KSYN3A mod
>         added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has
>         an IRC 701A
>         400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable,
>         and printed
>         manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio
>         has more than
>         enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address -
>         PayPal
>         (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>
>         See
>         https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldtosearch=call
>         <https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj&fieldtosearch=call>
>
>         73 Bart W9JJ
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From KY5G at montac.com  Fri Jan 10 03:09:54 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 02:09:54 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
Message-ID: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>

OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al., 
but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the signal 
bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel conductor 
speaker wires in the HT setup.
In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need to 
deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the network 
and routing various shack related wiring.

I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here have 
not had to deal with this before.? <grin>? I am hoping that replacing 
the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or shielded, twisted 
pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate the hits the HT system 
is taking.

*Q:? Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock 
for use in this application?* Small system...? only about 50W per 
channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be monster-sized 
conductors.? I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and bonding all 4 pair to 
a single loop, but I don't think a single run would be enough copper 
(?), and I don't want to make multiple runs per driver.

*Any ideas?*

73,

-- 
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389


From jimk0xu at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 08:06:23 2020
From: jimk0xu at gmail.com (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 07:06:23 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
Message-ID: <CALhxr4b_U=7QBiY1+smSfVuszsaz6kOdPyf0_Sf8+tGS+=H49g@mail.gmail.com>

I would get some mix 31 beads or cores large enough for several turns of
whatever wire you choose at each end of the runs. Those long wires make for
pretty good antennas.

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 02:11 Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:

> OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al.,
> but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the signal
> bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel conductor
> speaker wires in the HT setup.
> In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need to
> deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the network
> and routing various shack related wiring.
>
> I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here have
> not had to deal with this before.  <grin>  I am hoping that replacing
> the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or shielded, twisted
> pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate the hits the HT system
> is taking.
>
> *Q:  Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock
> for use in this application?* Small system...  only about 50W per
> channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be monster-sized
> conductors.  I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and bonding all 4 pair to
> a single loop, but I don't think a single run would be enough copper
> (?), and I don't want to make multiple runs per driver.
>
> *Any ideas?*
>
> 73,
>
> --
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
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From Lyn at LNAINC.com  Fri Jan 10 08:15:17 2020
From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 07:15:17 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
Message-ID: <0e5401d5c7b8$010592b0$0310b810$@LNAINC.com>

Are you certain that the RF is entering your audio system via the speaker wires?  There are other possible points of entry that are more susceptible ... namely component interconnects, AC power wiring and other "low level" access points.  RF chokes on all such cables may be necessary.

That being said, it probably wouldn't hurt to replace the existing speaker wiring with well shielded, twisted pair.  Just make sure to use a heavy enough wire (you say 'only 50 watts' but you don't specify the wire length), and to properly ground the shield.  The one pitfall is that you will be adding capacitance to the speaker wires.

Step 1 would seem to be exhaustive testing thru process of elimination.

73
Lyn, W?LEN



-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 2:10 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?

OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al., 
but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the signal 
bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel conductor 
speaker wires in the HT setup.
In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need to 
deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the network 
and routing various shack related wiring.

I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here have 
not had to deal with this before.  <grin>  I am hoping that replacing 
the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or shielded, twisted 
pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate the hits the HT system 
is taking.

*Q:  Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock 
for use in this application?* Small system...  only about 50W per 
channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be monster-sized 
conductors.  I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and bonding all 4 pair to 
a single loop, but I don't think a single run would be enough copper 
(?), and I don't want to make multiple runs per driver.

*Any ideas?*

73,

-- 
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

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From ted.roycraft at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 08:40:53 2020
From: ted.roycraft at gmail.com (Ted Roycraft)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 08:40:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <0e5401d5c7b8$010592b0$0310b810$@LNAINC.com>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<0e5401d5c7b8$010592b0$0310b810$@LNAINC.com>
Message-ID: <CAEhjuxHTf+kYYCTfB00kkJ_+2y36A5Y=3pt6sxrYvkVTrouZyw@mail.gmail.com>

Take a look at

http://www.arrl.org/Radio-Frequency-Interference-rfi

There are several links there that may help you. I?ve had some success
using ferrite toroids.

73, Ted, W2ZK

From w8fn at windstream.net  Fri Jan 10 09:02:06 2020
From: w8fn at windstream.net (Randy Farmer)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 08:02:06 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
Message-ID: <78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>

If the present speaker wire is nothing but some kind of parallel 
conductor zip cord, you have a good chance of fixing the problem by 
replacing it with a twisted pair geometry cable (no shield or ferrites 
required). I've used Audioquest FLX-DB 14/2 with good success with a 
hi-fi system located literally underneath my antennas on the roof. You 
can get it at Crutchfield, or probably many other outlets, at a fair price.

73...
Randy, W8FN

On 1/10/2020 2:09 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
> OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al., 
> but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the signal 
> bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel conductor 
> speaker wires in the HT setup.
> In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need 
> to deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the 
> network and routing various shack related wiring.
>
> I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here 
> have not had to deal with this before.? <grin>? I am hoping that 
> replacing the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or 
> shielded, twisted pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate 
> the hits the HT system is taking.
>
> *Q:? Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock 
> for use in this application?* Small system...? only about 50W per 
> channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be monster-sized 
> conductors.? I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and bonding all 4 pair 
> to a single loop, but I don't think a single run would be enough 
> copper (?), and I don't want to make multiple runs per driver.
>
> *Any ideas?*
>
> 73,
>


From donovanf at starpower.net  Fri Jan 10 11:12:34 2020
From: donovanf at starpower.net (donovanf at starpower.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:12:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
Message-ID: <1041887704.9738039.1578672754358.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>

Clay, 


You'll get more meaningful feedback if you move this RFI discussion 
to the RFI reflector. The Elecraft reflector is the wrong place for it. 


https://www.contesting.com/FAQ/rfi 


If you're using passive speakers as you implied in your email, a ferrite core 
at each speaker connection to your amplifier should do the trick. 
Suggest you disconnect all five speakers and reconnect them and 
work on them one at a time 


This is an excellent resource: 


www.audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Clay Autery" <KY5G at montac.com> 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 8:09:54 AM 
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations? 

OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al., 
but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the signal 
bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel conductor 
speaker wires in the HT setup. 
In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need to 
deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the network 
and routing various shack related wiring. 

I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here have 
not had to deal with this before. <grin> I am hoping that replacing 
the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or shielded, twisted 
pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate the hits the HT system 
is taking. 

*Q: Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock 
for use in this application?* Small system... only about 50W per 
channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be monster-sized 
conductors. I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and bonding all 4 pair to 
a single loop, but I don't think a single run would be enough copper 
(?), and I don't want to make multiple runs per driver. 

*Any ideas?* 

73, 

-- 
______________________ 
Clay Autery, KY5G 
(318) 518-1389 

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From k4to.dave at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 11:50:11 2020
From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:50:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Paddle
Message-ID: <CAKynJK=r+Wjr_pi76y0n9pUwkvccFg_T+o+NzpsSkoGrfU9uMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am thinking of selling my paddle.   What is a reasonable price?

Thanks,

Dave, K4TO

From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 13:01:34 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:01:34 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] FS:  KXPA100-AT-F
Message-ID: <448128E0-9D62-4D0A-B64C-A325BDE754C5@gmail.com>

Essentially as new KXPA100-AT-F.   Serial:  2734.   Includes power cable, KXUSB cable, and optional KXPACBL interface cable set.  Total cost new ? $1249.85 (w/o taxes, shipping).

$950.00 (PayPal only) shipped.  Shipping via standard UPS Ground to lower 48 in original carton.  AK, HI, PR, or expedited shipping additional.

Please respond off list ? thanks.


Grant NQ5T


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Fri Jan 10 13:29:46 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:29:46 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <f52f0480-8b69-5185-e8b1-d1532a92d952@blomand.net>

Or with parallel zip cord, chuck one end in a vice and the other in the 
electric drill.??? Pull it tight and turn it on and make your own 
twisted pair.??? Be sure and keep it tight at all times.?? How many 
twists??? Depends on how long one hold the trigger down.?? About 10 
turns per foot is good.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/10/2020 8:02 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> If the present speaker wire is nothing but some kind of parallel 
> conductor zip cord, you have a good chance of fixing the problem by 
> replacing it with a twisted pair geometry cable (no shield or ferrites 
> required). I've used Audioquest FLX-DB 14/2 with good success with a 
> hi-fi system located literally underneath my antennas on the roof. You 
> can get it at Crutchfield, or probably many other outlets, at a fair 
> price.
>
> 73...
> Randy, W8FN
>
> On 1/10/2020 2:09 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al., 
>> but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the 
>> signal bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel 
>> conductor speaker wires in the HT setup.
>> In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need 
>> to deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the 
>> network and routing various shack related wiring.
>>
>> I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here 
>> have not had to deal with this before.? <grin>? I am hoping that 
>> replacing the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or 
>> shielded, twisted pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate 
>> the hits the HT system is taking.
>>
>> *Q:? Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock 
>> for use in this application?* Small system...? only about 50W per 
>> channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be 
>> monster-sized conductors.? I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and 
>> bonding all 4 pair to a single loop, but I don't think a single run 
>> would be enough copper (?), and I don't want to make multiple runs 
>> per driver.
>>
>> *Any ideas?*
>>
>> 73,
>>
>
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From softblue at windstream.net  Fri Jan 10 13:34:15 2020
From: softblue at windstream.net (Dick Dickinson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:34:15 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Speaker Wire Recommendations?
Message-ID: <000001d5c7e4$90579ef0$b106dcd0$@windstream.net>

Only on an amateur radio email reflector can one get censured for improper
query-discussion and in the same post receive a solution to their query..?  

 

No.probably not just hams.

 

 

As ever,

Dick - KA5KKT

 


From g7ltq at newgas.net  Fri Jan 10 13:46:01 2020
From: g7ltq at newgas.net (John Newgas)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:46:01 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Message-ID: <64E8CD51-810A-4345-8964-1022A1C96857@newgas.net>

Aubrey, 
I think you are referring to the KX3 Companion for Android by  Andrea IU4APC.

I have tried this for lightweight operations.    It woks by sending out commands to KX3 in ASCII over serial.
Android<>OTG Adaptor<>Serial to USB<>KX3.

If you want the waterfall to work - which us optional  - I use the KX3 headphone output into the 3.5mm audio jack on my Tablet.   This worked OK on my old Nexus 9.  Some tablets don?t recognise the microphone input .  The Android Headset Tester is a good bit of Freeware which you can use to check the microphone is recognised.   Some tablets need an extra low resistance ( 1k3 ) to recognise a microphone is plugged in.

PSK31 and Morse are sent as ASCII and the KX3 does the translating to the signals to modulate the SSB.
I&Q aren?t needed.

I don?t use PSK31 any more but have moved to JS8Call and FT8 and hope we might get an internal KX3 or Android implementation.

John N

From hlstephenson at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 14:02:03 2020
From: hlstephenson at gmail.com (Howard Stephenson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:02:03 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 For Sale
Message-ID: <CAA-f8tpvwkqn1-C7Ve4s4=XnhFjcihw0PbNYY+BBGFm6z6SbAg@mail.gmail.com>

Selling my K3/100 SN 6010, comes with ATU, SUB, DVR, and a KBPF3 in main.
Has been upgraded with KIO3B, KSYN3A's
Comes with 13, 2.8, 2.1, .400, .200 filters in main with 2.7 and .400
filters
in SUB.  Included USB and power cable, MH2,  and KE7X book.
Asking $2,200 shipped in the lower 48

Howard Stephenson K6IA
Las Vegas, NV

From wunder at wunderwood.org  Fri Jan 10 14:08:25 2020
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:08:25 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <7D345713-51F5-4603-9F26-57E652354756@wunderwood.org>

If it is a long run, you might use a 70.7 V system with Cat 5 cable. Put transformers on each end to run higher voltage (lower current) on the wire and use cheap, good twisted pair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant-voltage_speaker_system

Another approach would be to use line-level over Cat 5, then put an audio amplifier at the speaker. I use a dual 15 W amp that runs off of 9 to 18 V. 

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/

Amazon shows the exact model at not available, but there are plenty of similar alternatives.

https://smile.amazon.com/Amplifier-DROK-Channel-Digital-Speakers/dp/B07PYGCVWJ/
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075JDPTKM/

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Randy Farmer <w8fn at windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If the present speaker wire is nothing but some kind of parallel conductor zip cord, you have a good chance of fixing the problem by replacing it with a twisted pair geometry cable (no shield or ferrites required). I've used Audioquest FLX-DB 14/2 with good success with a hi-fi system located literally underneath my antennas on the roof. You can get it at Crutchfield, or probably many other outlets, at a fair price.
> 
> 73...
> Randy, W8FN
> 
> On 1/10/2020 2:09 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> OK... so I am knee deep in assembling and installing a subRX, et al., but got reminded by the XYL that I STILL have not addressed the signal bleed into the audio system via the long runs of parallel conductor speaker wires in the HT setup.
>> In order to maintain a high "SAF" (Spouse Acceptance Factor), I need to deal with this issue WHILE I am in the attic re-configuring the network and routing various shack related wiring.
>> 
>> I cannot imagine a stellar group of operators as are gathered here have not had to deal with this before.  <grin>  I am hoping that replacing the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair (or shielded, twisted pair, w/shield properly terminated) will mitigate the hits the HT system is taking.
>> 
>> *Q:  Do any of y'all have recommendations for a particular wire stock for use in this application?* Small system...  only about 50W per channel on the 5 main speakers, so they don't have to be monster-sized conductors.  I considered using CAT-5(+) wire and bonding all 4 pair to a single loop, but I don't think a single run would be enough copper (?), and I don't want to make multiple runs per driver.
>> 
>> *Any ideas?*
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
> 
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 15:31:49 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:31:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100-AT-F. -- Sold pending payment
In-Reply-To: <448128E0-9D62-4D0A-B64C-A325BDE754C5@gmail.com>
References: <448128E0-9D62-4D0A-B64C-A325BDE754C5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EFDB9A17-14EA-4A5F-8952-D29F419E5970@gmail.com>



> On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Essentially as new KXPA100-AT-F.   Serial:  2734.   Includes power cable, KXUSB cable, and optional KXPACBL interface cable set.  Total cost new ? $1249.85 (w/o taxes, shipping).
> 
> $950.00 (PayPal only) shipped.  Shipping via standard UPS Ground to lower 48 in original carton.  AK, HI, PR, or expedited shipping additional.
> 
> Please respond off list ? thanks.
> 
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 


From archernf at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 15:35:15 2020
From: archernf at gmail.com (Neil Foster)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:35:15 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] FT 8 QRP
Message-ID: <CAKCgiyg9jfQr81ZsPOb9NuNn7My_VtQ51e6m+pwSX_ZCD80pww@mail.gmail.com>

What a blast, I just had my first QRP FT 8 contact with K3EEI on 15 m. I
used my Elecraft K2 that had the Fixed Audio mod board available from Dave
W8FGU.
My K 2 is the basic QRP radio not the 100 watt flavor.. It was neat to make
the contact and I used my RigBlaster Advantage along with it. I am a West
Mountain fan.
73 es gud dx
Neil    N4FN

From ab2tc at arrl.net  Fri Jan 10 17:24:30 2020
From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:24:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem "ERR DLL"
In-Reply-To: <e9d60332-3acd-e493-3789-3f0d5362de12@ippt.pan.pl>
References: <1eefc62f-1f76-1136-5bbb-27db089254b1@ippt.pan.pl>
	<04A754DD-0996-450D-8B75-12D7950168A8@widomaker.com>
	<e9d60332-3acd-e493-3789-3f0d5362de12@ippt.pan.pl>
Message-ID: <1578695070727-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

Are you sure that message wasn't "ERR PLL"? Do you have the older synth? It
has a PLL (phase locked loop) in it so that error message might make sense.

AB2TC - Knut


Ryszard Tymkiewicz wrote
> Bill..the message was on K3 screen and not any PC was connected...
> 
>  ?????????????????????? 73 Rys
> 
> W dniu 2020-01-05 o?00:37, Nr4c pisze:
>> ZDLL error sounds more like a Windows thing then a radio error.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
> <snip>
> ______________________________________________________________





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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jan 10 17:48:18 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:48:18 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
Message-ID: <04403eb6-52dd-eb21-880f-a5069451f185@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/10/2020 12:09 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
> that replacing the speaker wire with either simple twisted pair

This assumes that we're talking about passive loudspeakers, NOT those 
with built-in power amps. Twisted pair. No need for shielding. If it's a 
serious hi-fi system, use #10 or #12 to preserve the "tightness" of bass 
response. If there's still RFI, add a choke where it connects to the 
power amp.

Small conductors like CAT5 can cause the lows to go "mushy" by degrading 
the damping factor.

73, Jim K9YC

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jan 10 17:49:28 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:49:28 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <0e5401d5c7b8$010592b0$0310b810$@LNAINC.com>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<0e5401d5c7b8$010592b0$0310b810$@LNAINC.com>
Message-ID: <92d1fec9-38c2-165d-4ecd-1f25f8002a9d@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/10/2020 5:15 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> Are you certain that the RF is entering your audio system via the speaker wires?  There are other possible points of entry that are more susceptible ... namely component interconnects, AC power wiring and other "low level" access points.  RF chokes on all such cables may be necessary.

Great advice. But I'd do the speaker wiring first.

73, Jim K9YC

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jan 10 17:52:41 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:52:41 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <21e9df47-6c62-cf4b-539d-f776b3766a77@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/10/2020 6:02 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> I've used Audioquest FLX-DB 14/2

A much cheaper solution is to buy two colors of THHN from your local big 
box store, put one end of both cables in a bench vise, the other ends in 
a portable drill, and twist (a LOT). Then set the drill down overnight 
to let the twist "rest" to minimize untwisting (it will untwist some).

73, Jim K9YC

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jan 10 17:55:21 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 14:55:21 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <7D345713-51F5-4603-9F26-57E652354756@wunderwood.org>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
	<7D345713-51F5-4603-9F26-57E652354756@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <9f51986d-d2ad-a251-64db-d3d5caaccb0f@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/10/2020 11:08 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> If it is a long run, you might use a 70.7 V system with Cat 5 cable. Put transformers on each end to run higher voltage (lower current) on the wire and use cheap, good twisted pair.

Not a great idea if you care about low frequency response -- the 
transformers you can buy don't have enough iron to provide acceptable 
bass response.

73, Jim K9YC

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Jan 10 18:35:27 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:35:27 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <7D345713-51F5-4603-9F26-57E652354756@wunderwood.org>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
	<7D345713-51F5-4603-9F26-57E652354756@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <f89e776e-5909-bf72-7145-9cbfdb89ce18@foothill.net>

Hmmm ... I've always thought 70V systems were designed for PA usage 
where BW is somewhat limited.? Something about the transformers 
saturating on the hi power in the extreme bass of quality 
Hi-Fi/Stereo/HT systems?? Not a professional however, easily could be wrong.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 1/10/2020 11:08 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> If it is a long run, you might use a 70.7 V system with Cat 5 cable. Put transformers on each end to run higher voltage (lower current) on the wire and use cheap, good twisted pair.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant-voltage_speaker_system
>
> Another approach would be to use line-level over Cat 5, then put an audio amplifier at the speaker. I use a dual 15 W amp that runs off of 9 to 18 V.
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/
>
> Amazon shows the exact model at not available, but there are plenty of similar alternatives.
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/Amplifier-DROK-Channel-Digital-Speakers/dp/B07PYGCVWJ/
> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075JDPTKM/
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>


From wunder at wunderwood.org  Fri Jan 10 18:38:58 2020
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:38:58 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Speaker Wire Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <f89e776e-5909-bf72-7145-9cbfdb89ce18@foothill.net>
References: <ad84ef34-4fb4-0ed6-b8fe-4f50e767fb70@montac.com>
	<78c8d936-da5b-87dc-1310-72b8d23cca3a@windstream.net>
	<7D345713-51F5-4603-9F26-57E652354756@wunderwood.org>
	<f89e776e-5909-bf72-7145-9cbfdb89ce18@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <940A8535-F186-4B47-85CC-341307A18421@wunderwood.org>

I missed that ?the audio system? was hi-fi instead of communications audio.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder at wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm ... I've always thought 70V systems were designed for PA usage where BW is somewhat limited.  Something about the transformers saturating on the hi power in the extreme bass of quality Hi-Fi/Stereo/HT systems?  Not a professional however, easily could be wrong.
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 1/10/2020 11:08 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> If it is a long run, you might use a 70.7 V system with Cat 5 cable. Put transformers on each end to run higher voltage (lower current) on the wire and use cheap, good twisted pair.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant-voltage_speaker_system
>> 
>> Another approach would be to use line-level over Cat 5, then put an audio amplifier at the speaker. I use a dual 15 W amp that runs off of 9 to 18 V.
>> 
>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/
>> 
>> Amazon shows the exact model at not available, but there are plenty of similar alternatives.
>> 
>> https://smile.amazon.com/Amplifier-DROK-Channel-Digital-Speakers/dp/B07PYGCVWJ/
>> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075JDPTKM/
>> 
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>> 
> 
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Jan 10 19:47:25 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 19:47:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100-AT-F     **SOLD**
In-Reply-To: <448128E0-9D62-4D0A-B64C-A325BDE754C5@gmail.com>
References: <448128E0-9D62-4D0A-B64C-A325BDE754C5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1323AD6-0746-4767-8926-6A8F5CF07739@gmail.com>



> On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Essentially as new KXPA100-AT-F.   Serial:  2734.   Includes power cable, KXUSB cable, and optional KXPACBL interface cable set.  Total cost new ? $1249.85 (w/o taxes, shipping).
> 
> $950.00 (PayPal only) shipped.  Shipping via standard UPS Ground to lower 48 in original carton.  AK, HI, PR, or expedited shipping additional.
> 
> Please respond off list ? thanks.
> 
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 


From aa4lr at arrl.net  Sat Jan 11 11:18:06 2020
From: aa4lr at arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 11:18:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Issue with HI CUR on 12m
References: <68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC.ref@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC@arrl.net>

Back in early December, I installed two KSYN3As in my K3 SN 7071. Sometime after that, I noticed that on 12m, I?m seeing a HI CUR indication when I set the power level to more than about 80-85 watts. The K3 will back off on the power level, then slowly ramp back up until it hits HI CUR again.

I don?t remember seeing this before. After the KSYNC3A install, I ran the transmit gain calibration at both 5 and 50 watts, as specified in the instructions. Just in case something went awry, I ran it again.

I?m still seeing this problem. What causes HI CUR at 85 watts? The K3 ought to be able to produce over 110 watts on 12m.

I?m not seeing this issue on other bands.

No issues with calibration 
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
            -- Wilbur Wright, 1901


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan 11 11:29:43 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 11:29:43 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Issue with HI CUR on 12m
In-Reply-To: <68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC@arrl.net>
References: <68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC.ref@arrl.net>
	<68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <de3feae2-66a9-89f2-2658-bf5fb2076c2a@embarqmail.com>

Bill,

Is this into a dummy load (bypass the ATU or tune the ATU into the dummy 
load).
If it is into an antenna, there are a whole lot of guesses about how the 
antenna behaves with higher power levels than your antenna analyzer 
shows.  So check it with a dummy load to eliminate the possibility that 
the problem is in the antenna.

Put an external wattmeter in line with the dummy load to eliminate 
questions about the calibration on the K3 wattmeter.

If you can measure the actual current drawn, that would also be helpful.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2020 11:18 AM, Bill Coleman wrote:
> Back in early December, I installed two KSYN3As in my K3 SN 7071. Sometime after that, I noticed that on 12m, I?m seeing a HI CUR indication when I set the power level to more than about 80-85 watts. The K3 will back off on the power level, then slowly ramp back up until it hits HI CUR again.
> 
> I don?t remember seeing this before. After the KSYNC3A install, I ran the transmit gain calibration at both 5 and 50 watts, as specified in the instructions. Just in case something went awry, I ran it again.
> 
> I?m still seeing this problem. What causes HI CUR at 85 watts? The K3 ought to be able to produce over 110 watts on 12m.
> 
> I?m not seeing this issue on other bands.
> 
> No issues with calibration

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Jan 11 11:43:13 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 10:43:13 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Issue with HI CUR on 12m
In-Reply-To: <68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC@arrl.net>
References: <68FDBCF6-5CF4-4CC7-A75B-0C84A52875EC@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <5615FEF4-5A25-4C3D-BA22-C4F03AA0FCFF@blomand.net>

Is the power supply at 14 volts or so?  And what does the radio show the voltage to be in key down transmit into a dummy load.   Low voltage will demand more current to produce 100 watts. 

I run my supply at 14.25 V no load and the radio shows 13.8V during 100 watts transmit.  Voltage drop should be 0.5 volts or less. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Bill Coleman <aa4lr at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Back in early December, I installed two KSYN3As in my K3 SN 7071. Sometime after that, I noticed that on 12m, I?m seeing a HI CUR indication when I set the power level to more than about 80-85 watts. The K3 will back off on the power level, then slowly ramp back up until it hits HI CUR again.
> 
> I don?t remember seeing this before. After the KSYNC3A install, I ran the transmit gain calibration at both 5 and 50 watts, as specified in the instructions. Just in case something went awry, I ran it again.
> 
> I?m still seeing this problem. What causes HI CUR at 85 watts? The K3 ought to be able to produce over 110 watts on 12m.
> 
> I?m not seeing this issue on other bands.
> 
> No issues with calibration 
> Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
> Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
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>            -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
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From hlstephenson at gmail.com  Sat Jan 11 14:46:19 2020
From: hlstephenson at gmail.com (Howard Stephenson)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 11:46:19 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] F/S K3
Message-ID: <CAA-f8tqhU9bYoOV90DD2L3dDojzjG5zPVLGGHV=XyunLoNE3WA@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to add that it also has the KXV3B upgrade, SS hardware and the 4
encoders have been replaced. All the mods are current to the last time it
was at Elecraft in 2017

Selling my K3/100 SN 6010, comes with ATU, SUB, DVR, and a KBPF3 in main.
Has been upgraded with KIO3B, KSYN3A's
Comes with 13, 2.8, 2.1, .400, .200 filters in main with 2.7 and .400
filters in SUB.  Included USB and power cable, MH2,  and KE7X book.
Asking $2,200 shipped in the lower 48

Howard Stephenson K6IA
Las Vegas, NV

From g0ruz at g0ruz.com  Sat Jan 11 18:50:54 2020
From: g0ruz at g0ruz.com (Conrad PA5Y)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 23:50:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S USB codec Main and Sub - Left and Right
Message-ID: <AM5P189MB03873F55B4C71037BAF84438B53B0@AM5P189MB0387.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hello all.

I have 2 independent Xpol channels that I want to decode separately. I have tried unsuccessfully to achieve this.

Details are as follows

Xpol yagi - CH1 is -45 deg, CH2 is +45 so in an X format
2 channel 144/28 transverter
Ch1 is Main - Ch2 is Sub

What I want to do is use the USB codec and the left channel for the main and the right for the sub RX, WSJT-X allows for selection of left or right channel on a stereo audio stream. If I use my soundcard this works fine.

BTW I do not need a coherent RX, I am not trying to do adaptive, I achieve this by splitting the 28 MHz channel and use a coherent 2 channel SDR, this work FB as well.

It must be possible I think but I can't figure out how. Any advice would be appreciated.

73

Conrad PA5Y

From ea4kd at ea4kd.com  Sat Jan 11 18:53:09 2020
From: ea4kd at ea4kd.com (Pedro, EA4KD)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 00:53:09 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
Message-ID: <01c601d5c8da$479572e0$d6c058a0$@ea4kd.com>

I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
available.

 

Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
this modification and use the Band Data?.

 

Thank?s in advance

 

Pedro, EA4KD

 


From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sat Jan 11 19:13:33 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:13:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Issue with HI CUR on 12m
In-Reply-To: <5615FEF4-5A25-4C3D-BA22-C4F03AA0FCFF@blomand.net>
References: <5615FEF4-5A25-4C3D-BA22-C4F03AA0FCFF@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <191CA649-C52B-45E7-AAF6-241E317C99B4@widomaker.com>

Check antenna. 

Also, check into dummy load and report back. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 11, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Is the power supply at 14 volts or so?  And what does the radio show the voltage to be in key down transmit into a dummy load.   Low voltage will demand more current to produce 100 watts. 
> 
> I run my supply at 14.25 V no load and the radio shows 13.8V during 100 watts transmit.  Voltage drop should be 0.5 volts or less. 
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Bill Coleman <aa4lr at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Back in early December, I installed two KSYN3As in my K3 SN 7071. Sometime after that, I noticed that on 12m, I?m seeing a HI CUR indication when I set the power level to more than about 80-85 watts. The K3 will back off on the power level, then slowly ramp back up until it hits HI CUR again.
>> 
>> I don?t remember seeing this before. After the KSYNC3A install, I ran the transmit gain calibration at both 5 and 50 watts, as specified in the instructions. Just in case something went awry, I ran it again.
>> 
>> I?m still seeing this problem. What causes HI CUR at 85 watts? The K3 ought to be able to produce over 110 watts on 12m.
>> 
>> I?m not seeing this issue on other bands.
>> 
>> No issues with calibration 
>> Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
>> Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
>> Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
>>           -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>> 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan 11 19:24:24 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:24:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
In-Reply-To: <01c601d5c8da$479572e0$d6c058a0$@ea4kd.com>
References: <01c601d5c8da$479572e0$d6c058a0$@ea4kd.com>
Message-ID: <fc0f650a-e36c-a1fd-19f3-d6545e03072d@embarqmail.com>

Pedro and all,

The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs. 
That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to 
operate properly.

Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of 
using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device 
(which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3 
provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.

If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can 
add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to 
the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from 
Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you 
can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides 
pullup resistors on the band data lines.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
> available.
> 
>   
> 
> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
> this modification and use the Band Data?.
> 

From kevinr at coho.net  Sat Jan 11 22:33:13 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:33:13 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <00ffaba2-16ca-e8ff-703d-7b6e8a90db46@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? It has been a very wet week.? Today it varies between constant rain 
and when the sound level drops I know it's snowing.? Today I am right at 
snow line but by midweek it will drop a few hundred feet.

 ?? According to https://spaceweather.com 2020 has had only one spotless 
day.? A series of small cycle 25 spots have been moving across the sun.? 
No real sunspot groups but it is a change. Another few months and maybe 
we'll be able to see larger spots more often.? Patience is necessary.

 ? Don't hold your breath but Betelgeuse may nova one of these days.? It 
has been 'fainting' lately with a magnitude down to +1.12.? A supernova 
only 350 light years away will be pretty spectacular.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday? (2 PM PST Sunday)
 ?7047 kHz at 0000z Monday? (4 PM PST Sunday)

73,

 ?? Kevin. KD5ONS

-


If you truly want scratch made cookies first you have to create the 
universe.


From KY5G at montac.com  Sat Jan 11 23:01:17 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 22:01:17 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing K144XV
 and Reference Phase Lock Option
Message-ID: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>

Just what the title says....? I installed a new K144XV and Reference 
Oscillator Phase Lock Option tonight.

When I hit the band switch to go up to the 2 meter band, it thru a HIGH 
CURR error.

I followed the directions in both install manuals precisely (as 
appropriate for a K3s as enhanced), and double checked BOTH sets of 
steps after getting the error.
IF I disco the power, wait, reconnect, and then power up (provided I 
switch bands out of 2 meters), the error goes away. But if I switch back 
to 2 meters, it throws the error again.

I am going to go in and remove the REFLock option and try to just get 
the K144XV to "work".
The status light flashes just as described in the manual for "normal 
operation".? (once or twice on power up, then OFF)
I've verified the supply voltage and current are "normal"? 14.2 VDC at 
1.47 amps (higher because the subRX was installed a couple days ago.

Any ideas as to what is causing this "issue"? I'm missing all my weekend 
nets.? <wink>

73,

-- 
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389


From KY5G at montac.com  Sun Jan 12 00:22:52 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 23:22:52 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing
 K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
References: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
Message-ID: <a6b60c4b-25fd-16d8-11a0-fc6b07253447@montac.com>

Update...

1) Strictly speaking, removing the RefLock option board and associated 
SINGLE TMP cable did not "fix" anything... Still have the "HIGH CUR" error.
2) Incidentally, IF you fire the K3s up on ANY other band (after disco 
and reconnecting power to clear error) WITH the KXUSB cable connected to 
the computer AND the K144XV "RS-232" port, and THEN switch from any 
other band TO 2 meters, the status light flashes once as expected (ready 
for firmware).? BUT, the K144XV Utility will NOT connect to the K144XV.? 
Then, of course, if you shut the K3s down while on 2M band and remove 
the KXUSB cable from its port, then power back up....

a) Powers up, status light flashes once or twice as expected.
b) the K3s shows ANT3 briefly, and then starts trying to display the 
power-on banner, but is interrupted repeatedly by the HIGH CUR error.... 
which remains after the banner scroll completes.
c) You have to power down, and disco/reconnect the power to reset.

I pulled the left side of the case off ans inspected the IF IN and IF 
out cables to verify that they are connected correctly AND still fully 
plugged, and had NOT been pinched off.

I think I will try again, with the ANT 3 cable disconnected to remove 
the BNC cable assembly as a possible cause....? I'm reaching here now.

_*Question:*_? Is there any chance that having the "grip" portion of ANY 
of the TMP connectors making contact with the K144XV enclosure a 
"problem"?? The ANT3 TNP board connector is set at a slightly OFF angle, 
and the TMP outer (coax shiield) might be touching the enclosure.? Just 
trying t figure out what is "wrong", and if it anything I have control 
over...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/11/20 22:01, Clay Autery wrote:
> Just what the title says....? I installed a new K144XV and Reference 
> Oscillator Phase Lock Option tonight.
>
> When I hit the band switch to go up to the 2 meter band, it thru a 
> HIGH CURR error.
>
> I followed the directions in both install manuals precisely (as 
> appropriate for a K3s as enhanced), and double checked BOTH sets of 
> steps after getting the error.
> IF I disco the power, wait, reconnect, and then power up (provided I 
> switch bands out of 2 meters), the error goes away. But if I switch 
> back to 2 meters, it throws the error again.
>
> I am going to go in and remove the REFLock option and try to just get 
> the K144XV to "work".
> The status light flashes just as described in the manual for "normal 
> operation".? (once or twice on power up, then OFF)
> I've verified the supply voltage and current are "normal"? 14.2 VDC at 
> 1.47 amps (higher because the subRX was installed a couple days ago.
>
> Any ideas as to what is causing this "issue"? I'm missing all my 
> weekend nets.? <wink>
>
> 73,
>

From ea4kd at ea4kd.com  Sun Jan 12 03:01:25 2020
From: ea4kd at ea4kd.com (Pedro, EA4KD)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:01:25 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
In-Reply-To: <fc0f650a-e36c-a1fd-19f3-d6545e03072d@embarqmail.com>
References: <01c601d5c8da$479572e0$d6c058a0$@ea4kd.com>
	<fc0f650a-e36c-a1fd-19f3-d6545e03072d@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <01d101d5c91e$7d936070$78ba2150$@ea4kd.com>

Many thanks Don;

Only need the instructions to add the resistors, I'll keep looking because I haven't found yet.

Pedro, EA4KD

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] 
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 1:24
Para: Pedro, EA4KD; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data

Pedro and all,

The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs. 
That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to 
operate properly.

Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of 
using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device 
(which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3 
provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.

If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can 
add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to 
the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from 
Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you 
can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides 
pullup resistors on the band data lines.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
> available.
> 
>   
> 
> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
> this modification and use the Band Data?.
> 


From KY5G at montac.com  Sun Jan 12 03:56:57 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 02:56:57 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
In-Reply-To: <01d101d5c91e$7d936070$78ba2150$@ea4kd.com>
References: <01c601d5c8da$479572e0$d6c058a0$@ea4kd.com>
	<fc0f650a-e36c-a1fd-19f3-d6545e03072d@embarqmail.com>
	<01d101d5c91e$7d936070$78ba2150$@ea4kd.com>
Message-ID: <d7830e68-6db5-a13c-2b23-0aac9a65e0c9@montac.com>

Here you go:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf 
<----? K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods, Rev B: REMIOUPGD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The above doc has the instructions for EXT ALC mod and Pullup resistor mod.

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO3BUPGD-FAQ%20rev%20A.pdf 
<----? Replaces REMIOUPGD? with KIO3BUPKT FAQ
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/E740280%20KIO3B%20Installation%20Rev%20A3.pdf 
<---KIO3BUPKT INSTALL

Hope this stuff is what you are looking for....

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/12/20 02:01, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
> Many thanks Don;
>
> Only need the instructions to add the resistors, I'll keep looking because I haven't found yet.
>
> Pedro, EA4KD
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com]
> Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 1:24
> Para: Pedro, EA4KD; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
>
> Pedro and all,
>
> The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs.
> That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to
> operate properly.
>
> Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of
> using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device
> (which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3
> provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.
>
> If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can
> add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to
> the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from
> Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
> If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you
> can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides
> pullup resistors on the band data lines.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
>> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
>> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
>> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
>> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
>> available.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
>> this modification and use the Band Data?.
>>
> ______________________________________________________________
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From ea4kd at ea4kd.com  Sun Jan 12 04:09:19 2020
From: ea4kd at ea4kd.com (Pedro, EA4KD)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:09:19 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
In-Reply-To: <d7830e68-6db5-a13c-2b23-0aac9a65e0c9@montac.com>
References: <01c601d5c8da$479572e0$d6c058a0$@ea4kd.com>	<fc0f650a-e36c-a1fd-19f3-d6545e03072d@embarqmail.com>	<01d101d5c91e$7d936070$78ba2150$@ea4kd.com>
	<d7830e68-6db5-a13c-2b23-0aac9a65e0c9@montac.com>
Message-ID: <01d201d5c927$f94da320$ebe8e960$@ea4kd.com>

Very grateful Clay

Pedro, EA4KD


-----Mensaje original-----
De: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Clay Autery
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 9:57
Para: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data

Here you go:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf 
<----  K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods, Rev B: REMIOUPGD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The above doc has the instructions for EXT ALC mod and Pullup resistor mod.

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO3BUPGD-FAQ%20rev%20A.pdf 
<----  Replaces REMIOUPGD  with KIO3BUPKT FAQ
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/E740280%20KIO3B%20Installation%20Rev%20A3.pdf 
<---KIO3BUPKT INSTALL

Hope this stuff is what you are looking for....

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/12/20 02:01, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
> Many thanks Don;
>
> Only need the instructions to add the resistors, I'll keep looking because I haven't found yet.
>
> Pedro, EA4KD
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com]
> Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 1:24
> Para: Pedro, EA4KD; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
>
> Pedro and all,
>
> The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs.
> That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to
> operate properly.
>
> Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of
> using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device
> (which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3
> provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.
>
> If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can
> add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to
> the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from
> Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
> If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you
> can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides
> pullup resistors on the band data lines.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
>> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
>> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
>> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
>> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
>> available.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
>> this modification and use the Band Data?.
>>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From KY5G at montac.com  Sun Jan 12 06:11:34 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 05:11:34 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after
 installing K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <15E90C36DA65299D.15008@groups.io>
References: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
	<15E90C36DA65299D.15008@groups.io>
Message-ID: <1529f955-92df-1427-12ab-821c14b6516a@montac.com>

OK... so NONE of that worked...? So, I reinstalled everything and 
checked it 3 times...

Here is something....

What should the voltage be on Pin #1 of P95 (XV12DC) be with respect to 
chassis?

I am reading 13.75 VDC

Confirming what the picture APPEARS to be in the manual for the 
connection of the 1-wire, 3-pin connector to the 3-pin 12V power IN on 
the 2 meter module:

As you are looking at the open top of the K3s from the front, over the 
front panel....

Does the connector plug in such that the 1-wire is on "Pin #3" on the 2 
meter module (IAW, the pin closest to the PA shield/rear of the chassis?

I took the PCB out of the 2 meter module enclosure and inspected the 
pins and traces on the PCB....

Pin #1 trace appears to be a (+) line which is bypassed to ground with a 
n SMD device...? believe it was stenciled as a cap (input filtering of 
some sort)?? (Pin #1 to Pin #3 is approx. 0.2 Ohms)

Pin #2 solders to the ground plane on the bottom of the PCB. (0.1 Ohms 
or so between Pin #2 and enclosure; Open from Pin#2 to Pin #3)

Pin #3 appears to be the unfiltered (+) as it leads to a rather large 
trace on the bottom of the board leading from the connector to the 
interior of the board.

So the power wire from P95/Pin #1 goes eother to Pin #1 or Pin #3 on the 
2 meter module 12V IN.? The picture in the manual APPEARS to be Pin #3 
and it follows, as the connector has Pin #1 marked and Pin #1 is 
traditionally on the left side of a PC Board header.

I'm running out of ideas...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/11/20 23:22, Clay Autery wrote:
>
> Update...
>
> 1) Strictly speaking, removing the RefLock option board and associated 
> SINGLE TMP cable did not "fix" anything... Still have the "HIGH CUR" 
> error.
> 2) Incidentally, IF you fire the K3s up on ANY other band (after disco 
> and reconnecting power to clear error) WITH the KXUSB cable connected 
> to the computer AND the K144XV "RS-232" port, and THEN switch from any 
> other band TO 2 meters, the status light flashes once as expected 
> (ready for firmware). BUT, the K144XV Utility will NOT connect to the 
> K144XV.? Then, of course, if you shut the K3s down while on 2M band 
> and remove the KXUSB cable from its port, then power back up....
>
> a) Powers up, status light flashes once or twice as expected.
> b) the K3s shows ANT3 briefly, and then starts trying to display the 
> power-on banner, but is interrupted repeatedly by the HIGH CUR 
> error.... which remains after the banner scroll completes.
> c) You have to power down, and disco/reconnect the power to reset.
>
> I pulled the left side of the case off ans inspected the IF IN and IF 
> out cables to verify that they are connected correctly AND still fully 
> plugged, and had NOT been pinched off.
>
> I think I will try again, with the ANT 3 cable disconnected to remove 
> the BNC cable assembly as a possible cause....? I'm reaching here now.
>
> _*Question:*_? Is there any chance that having the "grip" portion of 
> ANY of the TMP connectors making contact with the K144XV enclosure a 
> "problem"?? The ANT3 TNP board connector is set at a slightly OFF 
> angle, and the TMP outer (coax shiield) might be touching the 
> enclosure.? Just trying t figure out what is "wrong", and if it 
> anything I have control over...
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> On 01/11/20 22:01, Clay Autery wrote:
>> Just what the title says....? I installed a new K144XV and Reference 
>> Oscillator Phase Lock Option tonight.
>>
>> When I hit the band switch to go up to the 2 meter band, it thru a 
>> HIGH CURR error.
>>
>> I followed the directions in both install manuals precisely (as 
>> appropriate for a K3s as enhanced), and double checked BOTH sets of 
>> steps after getting the error.
>> IF I disco the power, wait, reconnect, and then power up (provided I 
>> switch bands out of 2 meters), the error goes away. But if I switch 
>> back to 2 meters, it throws the error again.
>>
>> I am going to go in and remove the REFLock option and try to just get 
>> the K144XV to "work".
>> The status light flashes just as described in the manual for "normal 
>> operation".? (once or twice on power up, then OFF)
>> I've verified the supply voltage and current are "normal"? 14.2 VDC 
>> at 1.47 amps (higher because the subRX was installed a couple days ago.
>>
>> Any ideas as to what is causing this "issue"? I'm missing all my 
>> weekend nets.? <wink>
>>
>> 73,
>>
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From n1rj at roadrunner.com  Sun Jan 12 09:57:25 2020
From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:57:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 for sale
Message-ID: <54651135-a449-a416-50a7-08b92ded366c@roadrunner.com>

Unfortunately, illness forces me to sell my KPA1500 s/n 373.
It has Temperature Sensor and Minimum Load mods installed.
Works perfectly. There are so few of these for sale I don't
know what a fair asking price would be. I'm thinking $5000.

I'll probably also sell my K3. perhaps someone would like a
package deal.

73, Roger

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sun Jan 12 09:59:32 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:59:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after
 installing K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <1529f955-92df-1427-12ab-821c14b6516a@montac.com>
References: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
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	<1529f955-92df-1427-12ab-821c14b6516a@montac.com>
Message-ID: <f85376de-85f5-7bac-25a1-ef40060ddf52@embarqmail.com>

Clay,

Have you measured the voltage displayed by the K3S during transmit?  A 
low voltage is a common cause for Hi Curr.
Reduce the voltage drop in the power cord by running directly from the 
power supply (no DC distribution boxes) and make certain all connections 
are tight.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/12/2020 6:11 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
> OK... so NONE of that worked...? So, I reinstalled everything and 
> checked it 3 times...
> 
> Here is something....
> 
> What should the voltage be on Pin #1 of P95 (XV12DC) be with respect to 
> chassis?
> 
> I am reading 13.75 VDC
> 

From daveingeb at comcast.net  Sun Jan 12 10:15:30 2020
From: daveingeb at comcast.net (DAVID INGEBRIGHT)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 08:15:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Utility Fails
Message-ID: <1093807407.227812.1578842130486@connect.xfinity.com>

After a failed windows update, I had to reload some of my software. Among that was the KPA500 remote utility. I did what I did before, went to the elecraft support page, found the KPA500 download, did the download, it said to also download the dot net framework. I did that and then I downloaded the FTDI comport drivers, located the proper comport and launched the utility. I get a big error box that says " Unhandled Exception has occurred in your appliacation" "Unable to load specified amp driver"
I uninstalled the utility and the dotnet framework and reloaded only to have the same thing happen. So I went and did the same thing on my #2 shack PC and same results. What am I doing wrong here?
//Dave WB7ELY

From jboehner01 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 12 11:35:17 2020
From: jboehner01 at yahoo.com (James F. Boehner MD)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 11:35:17 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution-connector
References: <00aa01d5c966$46783d70$d368b850$.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01d5c966$46783d70$d368b850$@yahoo.com>

I have a question as to the video output connector.

The K4 appears to have an HDMI connector for the monitor output. 

I have been told by other manufacturers that using an HDMI connector
involves royalty fees or some other licensing.

Is this true?  If so, how has Elecraft navigated this situation?

'73 de JIM N2ZZ



-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 7:23 PM
To: Dave Erickson; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution

Hi Dave,

The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.

We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI compatible 
monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.

Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the

external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same

time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and
waterfall 
display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/
---------

On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
> ...
> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the built
in 
> display will have? I am in the market and all the other radios in this
class 
> seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most of those have the display

> outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>
> Happy New Year to all.
>

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From g0ruz at g0ruz.com  Sun Jan 12 12:24:11 2020
From: g0ruz at g0ruz.com (Conrad PA5Y)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:24:11 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S USB codec Main and Sub - Left and Right
In-Reply-To: <AM5P189MB03873F55B4C71037BAF84438B53B0@AM5P189MB0387.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <AM5P189MB03873F55B4C71037BAF84438B53B0@AM5P189MB0387.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <AM5P189MB038729835700D68039326E0DB53A0@AM5P189MB0387.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Well it turned out that I had the audio codec set to mono in the PC, so it was simple. It seems to work now. MR in a few minutes so we will see.

73

Conrad PA5Y

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 January 2020 00:51
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S USB codec Main and Sub - Left and Right

Hello all.

I have 2 independent Xpol channels that I want to decode separately. I have tried unsuccessfully to achieve this.

Details are as follows

Xpol yagi - CH1 is -45 deg, CH2 is +45 so in an X format
2 channel 144/28 transverter
Ch1 is Main - Ch2 is Sub

What I want to do is use the USB codec and the left channel for the main and the right for the sub RX, WSJT-X allows for selection of left or right channel on a stereo audio stream. If I use my soundcard this works fine.

BTW I do not need a coherent RX, I am not trying to do adaptive, I achieve this by splitting the 28 MHz channel and use a coherent 2 channel SDR, this work FB as well.

It must be possible I think but I can't figure out how. Any advice would be appreciated.

73

Conrad PA5Y
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From kc9ee at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 12 12:32:17 2020
From: kc9ee at yahoo.com (Gary Hunt)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:32:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>

Just started noticing that occasionally the first character sent on CW will peg the watt meter on the KPA500.? It does not fault.? Sometimes a QSY to a different band or even a different band segment will trigger it again, sometimes not. Both of my antennas require my KAT500 which seems to have found acceptable matches for both antennas on the appropriate bands. It just uses a previous found solution when QSYing.? Trying to determine which piece of equipment might have an issue.? Planning on sending the K3 in for a check up but was hoping to have a K4 here first.
Any thoughts?
73, Gary KC9EE


From KY5G at montac.com  Sun Jan 12 12:33:17 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 11:33:17 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing
 K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <f85376de-85f5-7bac-25a1-ef40060ddf52@embarqmail.com>
References: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
	<15E90C36DA65299D.15008@groups.io>
	<1529f955-92df-1427-12ab-821c14b6516a@montac.com>
	<f85376de-85f5-7bac-25a1-ef40060ddf52@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <af64a036-494e-8525-1357-aaed907ed0be@montac.com>

1)? I can never GET to transmit on 2 meters. It goes into "HI CUR" 
within seconds after switching to the 2 meter band.
2) The receive voltage is 14.3 VDC, and about 1.49-1.51 Amps.
3) The power cord is a custom-made 8AWG, twisted-pair cable directly 
lugged to an Astron VS-50M and plugged directly into the K3s.? Cable is 
less than 2 feet long.
4) It has been working like this for years.? SubRX install went without 
a hitch.
5) Radio is FULLY calibrated...

I have checked every single TMP cable, plug, et al on the interior and 
exterior...? Checked cables for pinching.? Checked everything I can 
think of at least a dozen times.

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/12/20 08:59, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Clay,
>
> Have you measured the voltage displayed by the K3S during transmit?? A 
> low voltage is a common cause for Hi Curr.
> Reduce the voltage drop in the power cord by running directly from the 
> power supply (no DC distribution boxes) and make certain all 
> connections are tight.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/12/2020 6:11 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> OK... so NONE of that worked...? So, I reinstalled everything and 
>> checked it 3 times...
>>
>> Here is something....
>>
>> What should the voltage be on Pin #1 of P95 (XV12DC) be with respect 
>> to chassis?
>>
>> I am reading 13.75 VDC
>>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Jan 12 12:37:05 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:37:05 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution-connector
In-Reply-To: <00aa01d5c966$46783d70$d368b850$@yahoo.com>
References: <00aa01d5c966$46783d70$d368b850$.ref@yahoo.com>
	<00aa01d5c966$46783d70$d368b850$@yahoo.com>
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We pay the royalty :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:35 AM, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> I have a question as to the video output connector.
> 
> The K4 appears to have an HDMI connector for the monitor output. 
> 
> I have been told by other manufacturers that using an HDMI connector
> involves royalty fees or some other licensing.
> 
> Is this true?  If so, how has Elecraft navigated this situation?
> 
> '73 de JIM N2ZZ
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
> Elecraft
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 7:23 PM
> To: Dave Erickson; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Internal and External display resolution
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> The K4's internal LCD has a resolution 1024x600, which is very sharp.
> 
> We also demonstrate the K4 with a large external 1920x1080 HDMI compatible 
> monitor. Our h/w should support up to 4K external monitors.
> 
> Note that rather than just mirroring the internal color LCD of the K4 on the
> 
> external monitor, we can display data independently from the LCD at the same
> 
> time in whatever format we wish, such as the full screen spectrum and
> waterfall 
> display we've been showing at the shows at 1920x1080.
> 
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
> ---------
> 
> On 1/1/2020 11:46 AM, Dave Erickson wrote:
>> ...
>> On a more serious note, has it been revealed yet what resolution the built
> in 
>> display will have? I am in the market and all the other radios in this
> class 
>> seem to have quite low pixel densities. And most of those have the display
> 
>> outputs at the same very low resolutions.
>> 
>> Happy New Year to all.
>> 
> 
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From w4kx at mac.com  Sun Jan 12 13:01:21 2020
From: w4kx at mac.com (Tom Doligalski)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:01:21 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <86930358-EF0F-47B4-9A40-30E857E30B8C@mac.com>

I?ve never seen this on my K3/PKA500/KAT500 setup. 

Just went back into the check, and all is normal!

73 Tom W4KX

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Gary Hunt via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Just started noticing that occasionally the first character sent on CW will peg the watt meter on the KPA500.  It does not fault.  Sometimes a QSY to a different band or even a different band segment will trigger it again, sometimes not. Both of my antennas require my KAT500 which seems to have found acceptable matches for both antennas on the appropriate bands. It just uses a previous found solution when QSYing.  Trying to determine which piece of equipment might have an issue.  Planning on sending the K3 in for a check up but was hoping to have a K4 here first.
> Any thoughts?
> 73, Gary KC9EE
> 
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From n4fn.neil at gmail.com  Sun Jan 12 13:31:55 2020
From: n4fn.neil at gmail.com (Neil Foster)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:31:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K 2 setting
Message-ID: <CADAKA9CvpJ71EvR=32oVdaTUTcWX=Lr9grpuAUUC67-rxH6ORA@mail.gmail.com>

Recently I added to my K 2 the Fixed Audio board now available from Dave
W8FGU. It was originally designed by Don Wilhelm W3FPR and it works
perfectly. I have noticed that when I have set up the Bar display to show
ALC so I can monitor ALC (I monitor RF with an outboard meter) that when I
shut down and later come back the setting does not stay at ALC but reverts
to RF. Is there a way to have it stay in ALC display?
Many thanks
Neil   N4FN

From kc9ee at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 12 13:33:54 2020
From: kc9ee at yahoo.com (Gary Hunt)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:33:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <86930358-EF0F-47B4-9A40-30E857E30B8C@mac.com>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
	<86930358-EF0F-47B4-9A40-30E857E30B8C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1613314832.6800164.1578854034194@mail.yahoo.com>

I also just caused this anomaly by first slightly adjusting the K3 power output. First character again sent the KPA 500 to 700 watts.? I'm going to see if I can find an accurate watt meter and see if I can see something on the K3 output.
KC9EE?

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  On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Tom Doligalski<w4kx at mac.com> wrote:   I?ve never seen this on my K3/PKA500/KAT500 setup. 

Just went back into the check, and all is normal!

73 Tom W4KX

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Gary Hunt via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Just started noticing that occasionally the first character sent on CW will peg the watt meter on the KPA500.? It does not fault.? Sometimes a QSY to a different band or even a different band segment will trigger it again, sometimes not. Both of my antennas require my KAT500 which seems to have found acceptable matches for both antennas on the appropriate bands. It just uses a previous found solution when QSYing.? Trying to determine which piece of equipment might have an issue.? Planning on sending the K3 in for a check up but was hoping to have a K4 here first.
> Any thoughts?
> 73, Gary KC9EE
> 
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From jackbrindle at me.com  Sun Jan 12 13:47:13 2020
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:47:13 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <34E036D3-69A9-4A3D-B7B3-613F599A1639@me.com>

There are two things at play here. First, the KPA500 has an unregulated power supply. On first key down, the power will spike, then quickly lower as the big filter capacitors decay from their peak voltage to the rms voltage. This is normal and we all see it. While I am sure you are seeing this, I don?t think it is what you are commenting about.

The second thing is that over time the K3 power calibration may change. One of the symptoms of poor calibration is power spiking, and I suspect this is what you are seeing. The solution is easy, perform a power calibration on the K3. The best way is to use the K3 utility?s Calibration selection; follow its directions and you should see improved performance.

If that doesn?t correct the situation, let us know!

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 12, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Gary Hunt via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Just started noticing that occasionally the first character sent on CW will peg the watt meter on the KPA500.  It does not fault.  Sometimes a QSY to a different band or even a different band segment will trigger it again, sometimes not. Both of my antennas require my KAT500 which seems to have found acceptable matches for both antennas on the appropriate bands. It just uses a previous found solution when QSYing.  Trying to determine which piece of equipment might have an issue.  Planning on sending the K3 in for a check up but was hoping to have a K4 here first.
> Any thoughts?
> 73, Gary KC9EE
> 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sun Jan 12 13:54:41 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:54:41 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K 2 setting
In-Reply-To: <CADAKA9CvpJ71EvR=32oVdaTUTcWX=Lr9grpuAUUC67-rxH6ORA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADAKA9CvpJ71EvR=32oVdaTUTcWX=Lr9grpuAUUC67-rxH6ORA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a4fc1cd-9bde-11be-b6b6-d83fec196756@embarqmail.com>

Neil,

Sorry,  but that setting is not saved over a power cycle.
It is good to hear the Fixed Audio Output is serving you well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/12/2020 1:31 PM, Neil Foster wrote:
> Recently I added to my K 2 the Fixed Audio board now available from Dave
> W8FGU. It was originally designed by Don Wilhelm W3FPR and it works
> perfectly. I have noticed that when I have set up the Bar display to show
> ALC so I can monitor ALC (I monitor RF with an outboard meter) that when I
> shut down and later come back the setting does not stay at ALC but reverts
> to RF. Is there a way to have it stay in ALC display?
> Many thanks
> Neil   N4FN

From n4fn.neil at gmail.com  Sun Jan 12 14:06:51 2020
From: n4fn.neil at gmail.com (Neil Foster)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:06:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K 2 setting
In-Reply-To: <3a4fc1cd-9bde-11be-b6b6-d83fec196756@embarqmail.com>
References: <CADAKA9CvpJ71EvR=32oVdaTUTcWX=Lr9grpuAUUC67-rxH6ORA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3a4fc1cd-9bde-11be-b6b6-d83fec196756@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADAKA9D9D4vxrdsZ19=3i-L7Gmvj7B_YXutm6ZcbBQ-xcqiHTw@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, thanks.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:55 PM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Neil,
>
> Sorry,  but that setting is not saved over a power cycle.
> It is good to hear the Fixed Audio Output is serving you well.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/12/2020 1:31 PM, Neil Foster wrote:
> > Recently I added to my K 2 the Fixed Audio board now available from Dave
> > W8FGU. It was originally designed by Don Wilhelm W3FPR and it works
> > perfectly. I have noticed that when I have set up the Bar display to show
> > ALC so I can monitor ALC (I monitor RF with an outboard meter) that when
> I
> > shut down and later come back the setting does not stay at ALC but
> reverts
> > to RF. Is there a way to have it stay in ALC display?
> > Many thanks
> > Neil   N4FN
>

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Jan 12 15:00:35 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:00:35 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <09946ec9-46e3-9ab4-49e0-30d2b4f6341b@blomand.net>

Yep, the power control circuit does have a bit of initial character 
overshoot.??? This is noticed when changing power levels or when 
changing bands and a few other instances which I don't recall.?? Since 
it occurs on the first CW element only, and doesn't fault the amp,? I 
don't consider it of concern.

You do have the ALC active from the amp and correctly set in the amp 
menu and the K3S menu.......don't you??? That's what it is there for.? 
Just be sure during normal operation the amp ALC is not active as seen 
on the K3S ALC indicator.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/12/2020 11:32 AM, Gary Hunt via Elecraft wrote:
> Just started noticing that occasionally the first character sent on CW will peg the watt meter on the KPA500.? It does not fault.? Sometimes a QSY to a different band or even a different band segment will trigger it again, sometimes not. Both of my antennas require my KAT500 which seems to have found acceptable matches for both antennas on the appropriate bands. It just uses a previous found solution when QSYing.? Trying to determine which piece of equipment might have an issue.? Planning on sending the K3 in for a check up but was hoping to have a K4 here first.
> Any thoughts?
> 73, Gary KC9EE
>
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From mike at ve3yf.com  Sun Jan 12 15:12:37 2020
From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 20:12:37 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Utility Fails
In-Reply-To: <1093807407.227812.1578842130486@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1093807407.227812.1578842130486@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <446d9550-f2d9-fdf0-b5c2-c74b369ac96e@ve3yf.com>

Hi Dave:

I am having the same problem, get an error message failed to load amp 
driver or something close to that. See mu post earlier this month. The 
KAT500 and the KPA1500 remote programs work perfectly.

-- 

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

_/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*


From jackbrindle at me.com  Sun Jan 12 16:08:50 2020
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:08:50 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <09946ec9-46e3-9ab4-49e0-30d2b4f6341b@blomand.net>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
	<09946ec9-46e3-9ab4-49e0-30d2b4f6341b@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <D702AF9D-77A3-4B9D-B989-8B0E5E409342@me.com>

Actually ALC is there because people expect it to be there. We recommend not using ALC between the KPA500 and K3.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 12, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep, the power control circuit does have a bit of initial character overshoot.    This is noticed when changing power levels or when changing bands and a few other instances which I don't recall.   Since it occurs on the first CW element only, and doesn't fault the amp,  I don't consider it of concern.
> 
> You do have the ALC active from the amp and correctly set in the amp menu and the K3S menu.......don't you?   That's what it is there for.  Just be sure during normal operation the amp ALC is not active as seen on the K3S ALC indicator.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> On 1/12/2020 11:32 AM, Gary Hunt via Elecraft wrote:
>> Just started noticing that occasionally the first character sent on CW will peg the watt meter on the KPA500.  It does not fault.  Sometimes a QSY to a different band or even a different band segment will trigger it again, sometimes not. Both of my antennas require my KAT500 which seems to have found acceptable matches for both antennas on the appropriate bands. It just uses a previous found solution when QSYing.  Trying to determine which piece of equipment might have an issue.  Planning on sending the K3 in for a check up but was hoping to have a K4 here first.
>> Any thoughts?
>> 73, Gary KC9EE
>> 
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sun Jan 12 16:18:58 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:18:58 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <D702AF9D-77A3-4B9D-B989-8B0E5E409342@me.com>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
	<09946ec9-46e3-9ab4-49e0-30d2b4f6341b@blomand.net>
	<D702AF9D-77A3-4B9D-B989-8B0E5E409342@me.com>
Message-ID: <df0fd4bc-4e0a-8665-f77b-217249d9abd1@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/12/2020 1:08 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:
> Actually ALC is there because people expect it to be there. We recommend not using ALC between the KPA500 and K3.
> 

Exactly that statement is in the User Manual for my 1979-vintage Ten Tec 
Titan 425 legal limit amps. They were designed by K4XU, who also 
designed the RF section (but not the control circuitry) of the Alpha 86 
and 87A.

73, Jim K9YC

From Gary at ka1j.com  Sun Jan 12 16:28:45 2020
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:28:45 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Mouse support
Message-ID: <5E1B8F8D.9365.D6B9FE5@Gary.ka1j.com>

I've grown attached to using a wireless 
mouse and wonder if that is also an option 
with the K4 & the monitor?

Thanks & HNY,

Gary
KA1J


From huntinhmb at coastside.net  Sun Jan 12 18:48:32 2020
From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (Brian Hunt)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 15:48:32 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <09946ec9-46e3-9ab4-49e0-30d2b4f6341b@blomand.net>
References: <1128696093.6790088.1578850337918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1128696093.6790088.1578850337918@mail.yahoo.com>
	<09946ec9-46e3-9ab4-49e0-30d2b4f6341b@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <9EB4626C-411E-4434-9B5B-30A6DEB1CF24@coastside.net>

I saw this problem with my K3 #4xxx and discovered a large voltage drop between the PS and K3 using the provided power cable. Cured the problem by:  1) shorter & fatter power cable, 2) increased the PS (Astron 30A linear) to 14.5v, and 3) running the K3 utility power calibration _twice_ back-to-back. Why it took 2x I don't know but it's been 100% fine ever since. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

From barackman at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 12 19:26:04 2020
From: barackman at hotmail.com (AB7WE)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 17:26:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X using KX3 + MacBook Air
Message-ID: <1578875164356-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Longtime WSJT-X operator using MacBook Air + IC7300. Now trying to setup KX3
to operate WSJT-X using same MacBook Air.

With KX3 I'm getting "Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to
rig". I'm using DATA A and default menu settings. However, I've tried
different baud rate settings making sure KX3 and WSJT-X are set to the same
rate. No luck.

Also, IC7300 requires only cable for rig control and audio tx/rx. Is that
true for KX3 using the KXUSB cable or do I need to use additional PC
connection cable sets? MacBook Air has no dedicated mic input jack.

If anyone has been successfull using KX3 + MacBook Air for WSJT-X I'd
appreciate your sharing settings, tips, etc. 

Thanks,

Phil AB7WE





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From n1ho at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 12 20:02:33 2020
From: n1ho at yahoo.com (Bayard Coolidge, N1HO)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 01:02:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X using KX3 + MacBook Air
In-Reply-To: <1578875164356-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1578875164356-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <2015094104.6867827.1578877353681@mail.yahoo.com>

 Can you fill us in on exactly what versions of macOS and WSJT-X youare trying to use?
Also, did you pay attention to the release notes for WSJT-X and use the correct values in /etc/sysctl.conf?(I was bitten - badly - by that myself!). I'm still on Mojave (10.14.6), so if you're on Catalina, YMMV.
Go into (black Apple icon) -> About This Mac -> System Report -> USBand make sure that it sees/enumerates the General Purpose USB Hub, the USB Audio CODEC,and the FT232R USB UART that are connected to your KX3. I'm using a K3 withthe updated KIO3B, etc. so I don't specifically know if the KX3 is configured in exactlythe same manner, but I would think that it would be somewhat similar overall; I donot need any other connections, such as the mic input jacks. Also, make sure tonote what the serial number of the FT232R is, as there is a device special file,e.g. /dev/tty.usbserial-A1234567, that is created for that particular device, and thatis what you should be specifying to WSJT-X->Preferences->Radio for your rig controls.The WSJT-X->Preferences->Audio should, of course, be set to "USB CODEC" BUTWSJT-X may/should initially ask to allow connection to the mic input and you shouldanswer "YES". (Yeah, that was kind of counter-intuitive to me, too...)
There had been a lot of discussion about this in the WSJT-X Yahoo! Group but they just (finally)shifted over to a Groups.io group and I suspect/fear that much of this sort of informationhas been (temporarily?) lost.
HTH and 73,
Brandy, N1HO


    On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 07:27:30 PM EST, AB7WE <barackman at hotmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Longtime WSJT-X operator using MacBook Air + IC7300. Now trying to setup KX3
to operate WSJT-X using same MacBook Air.

With KX3 I'm getting "Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to
rig". I'm using DATA A and default menu settings. However, I've tried
different baud rate settings making sure KX3 and WSJT-X are set to the same
rate. No luck.

Also, IC7300 requires only cable for rig control and audio tx/rx. Is that
true for KX3 using the KXUSB cable or do I need to use additional PC
connection cable sets? MacBook Air has no dedicated mic input jack.

If anyone has been successfull using KX3 + MacBook Air for WSJT-X I'd
appreciate your sharing settings, tips, etc. 

Thanks,

Phil AB7WE





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From elanzl at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 12 20:21:34 2020
From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 01:21:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Nets 1-5 and 1-12-2020
References: <1946068567.12290840.1578878494408.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1946068567.12290840.1578878494408@mail.yahoo.com>

Here are the last two logs from the last two weeks nets. Again thanks to all who signed in to the net and to the relay stations. We meet on 14.303.5 at 18Z.

Elecraft SSB Net 1-5-2020

WB9JNZ???????????????????? Eric????? IL???????? K3??????????????????? 4017??? NET CONTROL

AI6KU???????????????????????? Bob????? CA??????KX3???? ???????? 10068

N0MPM????????????????????? Mike??? IA????????K3S???? ???????? 10514

WA5DSS??????????????????? Bill?????? TX??????? K2?????? ??????????6746? QRP

W1NGA????????? ??????????? Al???????? CO???? ??K3??????? ??????????5765

N6PGQ? ???????????????????? Bob????? CA???????KX3???????????????? 103

K7BRR??????????????????????? Bill?????? AZ?????? K3S??? ????????? 10939

AC0OL??????????????????????? John ?? KS?????? Flex 6400 Drake L7

K4KSW?????????????????????? Jack??? FL???????Icom 7610

KO5V????????????????????????? Jim????? NM????? K2/100 ?? ???????? 7225

W2RWA????????? ???????????Dick???? NY?????? KX3???? ??? ????????2603

NS7P????????????????????????? Phil????? OR????? K3??????????????????? 1826

ZL1PWD???????? ??????????? Peter?? NZ?????? K3??????? ?????????????139

KJ7FAW???????????????????? Rich???? AZ?????? TS590 SG

K0JFJ/7????????????????????? Nick???? AZ???????K3S???????????? ?11830

W4DML?????????????????????? Doug?? TN?????? K3??????????????????? 6433

K6VWE ??????????????????????Stan??? MI????????K3???????????? ???????650

N7BDL??????????????????????????????????? Terry?? AZ?????? K3S???????????????? 10373? RELAY STATION
KC1ACL????????????????????? Steve?? NM????? K3S???????????????? 10677


Elecraft SSB Net ?1-12-2020

WB9JNZ???????????????????? Eric????? IL???????? K3??????????????????? 4017??? NET CONTROL

K8NU/4?????????????????????? Carl???? OH/FL?TS 590??? OPERATING REMOTE 

N9SRA??????????????????????? Steve?? IL???????? TS480

K1NW???????????????????????? Brian??? RI??????? K3??????????????????? 4974

KB7HRR???????????????????? Joe????? CO?????? ICOM 7300

N7BDL??????????????????????????????????? Terry?? AZ?????? K3S???????????????? 10373?  Relay Station

KC1ACL????????????????????? Steve?? NM????? KX3????????????????  10677

N4NRW????????? ??????????? Roger? SC?????? K3??????? ?????????????1318??Relay station

KO5V????????????????????????? Jim????? NM????? K2/100 ?? ???????? ???7225

WM6P???????????? ??????????? Steve?? GA?????? K3S???? ???? ????????11453

NS7P????????????????????????? Phil????? OR????? K3??????????????????? ?? 1826

KS6F?????????????????????????? Guy???? CA?????? K3S????????????????  10650

W2RWA????????? ???????????Dick???? NY?????? KX3???? ??? ???????????2603

KD8CIV?????????????????????? John??? MI??????? KX3???????????????? ?? 4654

K6WDE/7 ?????????????????? Dave?? AZ?????? KX3???????????????? ??? 4599

K4FBI????????????????????????? John??? VA??????K3S??????? ?????????????????

N0MPM????????????????????? Mike??? IA???????? K3S?????????????????? 10514
KD6OLH???????????????????? Archie? CA??????Yaesu 9100
Submitted by E. Lanzl WB9JNZ

From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jan 12 22:13:12 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:13:12 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <923b0b24-b5ea-3508-32a8-9b6066dc64bc@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? The Elecraft CW Net is a directed net.? There is no need to call CQ 
to get my attention; my location allows me to hear very well.? Just wait 
for me to call for check-ins then send your call or a part of it as a 
hail sign.? This allows me to gather two to three stations and work them 
in order.? Once I have cleared my list I call for more check ins.? I 
repeat this until I get no response three times.? If you call CQ during 
the net I'm not sure what you intend.? Are you trying to get my 
attention while I am working other operators?? Or are you calling your 
own net? ? If you wait for my call up sequence and respond when I send 
your call sign it is much easier to direct the net.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

NO8V - John - MI

K6XK - Roy - IA

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K4JPN - Steve - GA

WS1L - Chuck - MS

KF0QS - Bernard - CO

WU0A - John - CO

KC1ACL - Steven - NM

J?5?EG - ??? - ????? The QRM was too heavy to copy this op even though 
we tried five times.

Good signal though at S5 or better.


 ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6XK - Roy - IA

W6JHB - Jim - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

W0CZ - Ken - ND


 ?? Twenty meters was loud.? Jupiter was mentioned as a culprit. With 
all the clouds here I have a hard time keeping track of the moon let 
alone the planets.? The QSB was slow but Roy had a fast flutter on top 
of his signal.? The solar flux index has gone up from where it had been 
stuck for so many months.? From 69 a few months ago to 74 today.? A bit 
of solar wind is enough to support these bands for another week.? I know 
a good contest lights up the ionosphere too.

 ?? Forty meters was less noisy with slow QSB.? Copy was very good.? 
Most of the talk was about snow or rain.? A few rare folks actually have 
sunlight.? Here there is about two inches of sloppy snow.? The wind is 
rising too so I better put antenna work on my list.

 ? Until next week stay warm 73,

 ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS


-


The answer is 42.


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Jan 12 22:14:53 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 21:14:53 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3 over shoot on transmit
In-Reply-To: <9EB4626C-411E-4434-9B5B-30A6DEB1CF24@coastside.net>
References: <9EB4626C-411E-4434-9B5B-30A6DEB1CF24@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <123E5E67-1DAF-4917-927B-BF46000348A3@blomand.net>

Since the K3/K3S has the ability to indicate voltage on the display, from actual experience,  between RX and TX there should be less than 0.5 volts difference in CW mode, key closed at 100 watts output.  Anything greater indicates poor power supply regulation, or more likely, excessive resistance in the DC power cables or related connections.   

NEVER use a power distribution strip but always connect the radio directly to the power supply terminals.   And without added in- line fuses unless a battery is used for the DC source as a battery does not contain current limiting as found with a power supply.  

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Brian Hunt <huntinhmb at coastside.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I saw this problem with my K3 #4xxx and discovered a large voltage drop between the PS and K3 using the provided power cable. Cured the problem by:  1) shorter & fatter power cable, 2) increased the PS (Astron 30A linear) to 14.5v, and 3) running the K3 utility power calibration _twice_ back-to-back. Why it took 2x I don't know but it's been 100% fine ever since. 
> 
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
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From scott.small at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 10:10:59 2020
From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:10:59 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 for locating ft8 interference?
Message-ID: <CADkB6Up9uGd=sJWUyezK48QR6Yz8VN-M1QvtmeDsRvyUKYCnzQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've been using a kx3 to play with ft8. Finding intermittent severe
QRM is rendering it deaf to due desense. (Signals that are coming in
at -5 disappear from the waterfall when the source fires.)

The waterfall in WSJT-X is only really useful for a few kHz of view,
and I suspect that if the interference is notchable, it is outside
that passband.

Would the PX3 still give a full 200kHz of view to help with (maybe)
adding a notch useful for being able to then hear ft8?

I do have RTL-SDR, and Kerberos SDR, but haven't set them up for fear
of blowing out the front end when transmitting, haven't found an
equivalent to the MFJ autosensing TR switch that is solid state and
can withstand 100w of transmit.

Thanks in advance,
Scott
AD6YT

-- 
Scott Small

From kengkopp at gmail.com  Sat Jan 11 18:27:56 2020
From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 16:27:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X
In-Reply-To: <b5e7f8a7-2578-ff45-a823-6c3669498a7e@embarqmail.com>
References: <1266073954.10189542.1578773098143.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1266073954.10189542.1578773098143@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CABYU7WgC68wEtxvxbPoGcJqWDKMNhZtc5hYdsboWn9yUxKB4qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<b5e7f8a7-2578-ff45-a823-6c3669498a7e@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD4CdTNxCsUY+4DfyK-WEnfZEr=vHnc4EYed6Ryisy4QWSLF2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Fred was a dear friend of mine, and entered many contests using my station
here in Montana.  He especially excelled at SO2R, often working two
stations at once.  Awesome to watch.  GAWD I miss him!

73

Ken Kopp - Kopp

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 16:14 Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> I will second that recommendation for the Fred Cady book.
> It sounds like you are getting frustrated by many different angles that
> are may not be related to each other.
>
> Go through Fred's book from front to back, doing his exercises as you go.
> When you are finished, you will be responding to questions on the
> reflector instead of asking them.
>
> Fred was a great teacher and writer.  He told me that his experience as
> a professor told him that there were 3 types of learning.  Those who
> could understand from just reading, and those who had to have hands-on
> and those who learned best from doing visuals and exercises.  Fred
> covered them all in his writings.
>
> I (as an engineer) have no problem following the basic Elecraft manuals,
> and Fred has said that he has nothing in his books that is not covered
> in the Elecraft manuals, but his presentation methods are different and
> more expansive.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/11/2020 5:45 PM, Rich wrote:
> > I highly recommend "The Elecraft KX Line" by Fred Cady KE7X (SK).   You
> > can order it from the Elecraft web site.
> >
> https://elecraft.com/collections/kx-line-books/products/the-elecraft-kx-line-book-by-fred-cady
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:04 PM Karl W Hubbard via Groups.Io
> > <karlwhubbard=yahoo.com at groups.io <mailto:yahoo.com at groups.io>> wrote:
> >
> >     How do I get rid of the CW sounds when I input either via tap or
> >     push to hold functions on my KX3? I don't know whether I've enabled
> >     some macro function or what.
> >
> >     My 40 meters has now switched from LSB to USB indication . What am I
> >     missing? Anything?
> >
> >     Now my ATU won't tune anything . Stays at 24.1-1 and powers down to
> >     3.0 volts, even after refresh several times, even when I manually
> >     tune my Alex loop to within 1.5 SWR. ( I had used the ATU to
> >     routinely  fine-tune down to 1.1-1 -until today.)
> >
> >     I am getting more frustrated with the KX3 as time passes. Even
> >     setting up my Heil headphones is a hassle.
> >
> >     The manual should be written with a goal oriented task., ie. I have
> >     a pair of mic headphones which I want to use with KX3. Now what do
> >     you think I will want  to do? Well, I'll  need to input a slew of
> >     parameters,  VOX delay, pitch volume, monitor compression etc. These
> >     should be organized under one topic:Headphone - mic use.  using
> >     headphones with voice mic including troubleshooting tips, not
> >     scattered all over the manual.
> >
> >     Really thinking now about just selling all of my stuff, two mint
> >     condition Kx3s with covers, heat sinks , KPA100s, PX3s with covers,
> >     redundant extra cables. It seems every time I try to use my rig, I
> >     encounter a new problem. Obviously, i would like to upgrade my
> >     antenna, but at this point, I am more inclined just to bail.
> >
>
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From keith at elecraft.com  Mon Jan 13 13:03:08 2020
From: keith at elecraft.com (Keith Trinity WE6R)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:03:08 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing
 K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <af64a036-494e-8525-1357-aaed907ed0be@montac.com>
References: <af64a036-494e-8525-1357-aaed907ed0be@montac.com>
Message-ID: <eb6ef87b-f5b1-2b80-3ddd-2d3317f468f4@elecraft.com>

Probably just need current firmware.
A fully loaded K3 is right on the fringe of triggering the OLD Firmware 
limit of 2 amps.
New FW raises the limit if the HI CUR message.
If you are at current 5.67 FW, then check the actual current being 
drawn, with the internal meter, or a good external one.
You could have an audio chip (U1 on DSP board) going bad and starting to 
draw too much current (if so, catch it before it goes worse and melts 
the board).
If you have a Temp gun or FLIR you could check the temp of that chip, 
take the cover off, and it is at the top front of the DSP board.
Keith WE6R

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Jan 13 13:20:27 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:20:27 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Setting Up For WSJT-X Receive Levels
In-Reply-To: <CADkB6Up9uGd=sJWUyezK48QR6Yz8VN-M1QvtmeDsRvyUKYCnzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADkB6Up9uGd=sJWUyezK48QR6Yz8VN-M1QvtmeDsRvyUKYCnzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6695cfb6-c722-db9c-139b-2031e683c219@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/13/2020 7:10 AM, Tox wrote:
> I've been using a kx3 to play with ft8. Finding intermittent severe
> QRM is rendering it deaf to due desense. (Signals that are coming in
> at -5 disappear from the waterfall when the source fires.)

There is some bad advice in the setup instructions for WSJT-X to set the 
RX audio drive to the computer at 30 dB indicated on the green level bar 
at the bottom right of the display. This WILL cause weak signals to be 
lost to the decoder in the presence of a very strong one. I've learned 
to set that audio drive level so that, with RX signals present, that 
green bar is around 70 dB but never turns red (a bit over 80 dB).

For those reading the mail -- the logic is simple. The A/D converter has 
a dynamic range of about 90 dB. The green bar shows where the top of 
that 90 dB is set. Let's say a very strong signal, 50 dB over S9, takes 
over the AGC and hits the computer at 40 dB. Another signal in the 
waterfall would have to be S9 +10 dB to be decoded -- any weaker signal 
falls below the range of the A/D! But if I set the green bar to 75 dB, 
an S9 signal would be 25 dB above the bottom of the decoder. Each S-unit 
is 5 or 6 dB (depending on each mfr's definition of an S-unit); if 5 dB, 
S8 would be 20 dB above the bottom, S7 15 dB, S6 10 dB, S5 5 dB. Now, a 
signal between S4 and S5 can be decoded.

Another point. The appearance of the spectrum display can be deceiving, 
making signals appear wider than they are. WSJT-X can decode signals 
that appear to be covered by strong adjacent signals. The apparent 
covering is an artifact of how the waterfall is able to display 
amplitude of the received signal. The decoder sees "beneath" what the 
display shows.

73, Jim K9YC

From w0eb at cox.net  Mon Jan 13 14:11:40 2020
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:11:40 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: For Sale: Older iPAD (Still working OK)
Message-ID: <em7c6023e7-85b2-40d2-9932-e1058842d72b@jimsdesktop-pc>

I have an older (I believe 4th generation - first one with the "Retina" 
display) iPAD available if anyone is interested. (My wife bought me a 
new Gen 7 version.) It has 16 gigs of memory which is a little small by 
today's standards but it you don't put too many apps on it, it will work 
just fine.  It still holds a charge and will come with the charger and a 
new, much longer, "Lightning" cord.  The only problem with it is the 
iPAD's "Lightning" cord input jack is a little worn and you sometimes 
have to make sure that good contact is made when plugging it in to 
recharge.

There are no cracks in the screen or case and it comes with a leather 
protective cover that's still serviceable though it has seen better 
days.  I've wiped all personal and app data from it and it comes up 
wanting a new owner to take it over.

Original cost, some 7 or 8 years ago was just over $500.  I'd like to 
get $90 out of it (via PayPal only, no checks or money orders) and that 
will include shipping to anywhere in the US.

Please contact me off list if interested (w0eb at cox.net) to keep the 
clutter down on the reflector.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB




From scott.small at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 14:30:17 2020
From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:30:17 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Setting Up For WSJT-X Receive Levels
In-Reply-To: <6695cfb6-c722-db9c-139b-2031e683c219@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <CADkB6Up9uGd=sJWUyezK48QR6Yz8VN-M1QvtmeDsRvyUKYCnzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<6695cfb6-c722-db9c-139b-2031e683c219@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <CADkB6UpKzfSy_R-tnLiCUuhaEQzgyHvMaD3nO958K452UG2EEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks - I actually do already adjust AF to about 65dB.

Scott
AD6YT

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:20 AM Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/13/2020 7:10 AM, Tox wrote:
> > I've been using a kx3 to play with ft8. Finding intermittent severe
> > QRM is rendering it deaf to due desense. (Signals that are coming in
> > at -5 disappear from the waterfall when the source fires.)
>
> There is some bad advice in the setup instructions for WSJT-X to set the
> RX audio drive to the computer at 30 dB indicated on the green level bar
> at the bottom right of the display. This WILL cause weak signals to be
> lost to the decoder in the presence of a very strong one. I've learned
> to set that audio drive level so that, with RX signals present, that
> green bar is around 70 dB but never turns red (a bit over 80 dB).
>
> For those reading the mail -- the logic is simple. The A/D converter has
> a dynamic range of about 90 dB. The green bar shows where the top of
> that 90 dB is set. Let's say a very strong signal, 50 dB over S9, takes
> over the AGC and hits the computer at 40 dB. Another signal in the
> waterfall would have to be S9 +10 dB to be decoded -- any weaker signal
> falls below the range of the A/D! But if I set the green bar to 75 dB,
> an S9 signal would be 25 dB above the bottom of the decoder. Each S-unit
> is 5 or 6 dB (depending on each mfr's definition of an S-unit); if 5 dB,
> S8 would be 20 dB above the bottom, S7 15 dB, S6 10 dB, S5 5 dB. Now, a
> signal between S4 and S5 can be decoded.
>
> Another point. The appearance of the spectrum display can be deceiving,
> making signals appear wider than they are. WSJT-X can decode signals
> that appear to be covered by strong adjacent signals. The apparent
> covering is an artifact of how the waterfall is able to display
> amplitude of the received signal. The decoder sees "beneath" what the
> display shows.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From w0eb at cox.net  Mon Jan 13 14:52:53 2020
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:52:53 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RE: Older iPAD for sale
Message-ID: <em9b43a037-4db6-4e3b-be70-a9762f7999b5@jimsdesktop-pc>

The old iPAD has been spoken for - that was lightning fast!

Jim, W0EB


From turnbull at net1.ie  Mon Jan 13 15:59:54 2020
From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 20:59:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X
In-Reply-To: <CAD4CdTNxCsUY+4DfyK-WEnfZEr=vHnc4EYed6Ryisy4QWSLF2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e1cda4d.1c69fb81.3ced3.4594@mx.google.com>

Ken, We all miss our professor.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com> Date: 13/01/2020  15:29  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft-KX at groups.io, Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X Fred was a dear friend of mine, and entered many contests using my stationhere in Montana.? He especially excelled at SO2R, often working twostations at once.? Awesome to watch.? GAWD I miss him!73Ken Kopp - KoppOn Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 16:14 Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:> I will second that recommendation for the Fred Cady book.> It sounds like you are getting frustrated by many different angles that> are may not be related to each other.>> Go through Fred's book from front to back, doing his exercises as you go.> When you are finished, you will be responding to questions on the> reflector instead of asking them.>> Fred was a great teacher and writer.? He told me that his experience as> a professor told him that there were 3 types of learning.? Those who> could understand from just reading, and those who had to have hands-on> and those who learned best from doing visuals and exercises.? Fred> covered them all in his writings.>> I (as an engineer) have no problem following the basic Elecraft manuals,> and Fred has said that he has nothing in his books that is not covered> in the Elecraft manuals, but his presentation methods are different and> more expansive.>> 73,> Don W3FPR>> On 1/11/2020 5:45 PM, Rich wrote:> > I highly recommend "The Elecraft KX Line" by Fred Cady KE7X (SK).?? You> > can order it from the Elecraft web site.> >> https://elecraft.com/collections/kx-line-books/products/the-elecraft-kx-line-book-by-fred-cady> >> >> >> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:04 PM Karl W Hubbard via Groups.Io> > <karlwhubbard=yahoo.com at groups.io <mailto:yahoo.com at groups.io>> wrote:> >> >???? How do I get rid of the CW sounds when I input either via tap or> >???? push to hold functions on my KX3? I don't know whether I've enabled> >???? some macro function or what.> >> >???? My 40 meters has now switched from LSB to USB indication . What am I> >???? missing? Anything?> >> >???? Now my ATU won't tune anything . Stays at 24.1-1 and powers down to> >???? 3.0 volts, even after refresh several times, even when I manually> >???? tune my Alex loop to within 1.5 SWR. ( I had used the ATU to> >???? routinely? fine-tune down to 1.1-1 -until today.)> >> >???? I am getting more frustrated with the KX3 as time passes. Even> >???? setting up my Heil headphones is a hassle.> >> >???? The manual should be written with a goal oriented task., ie. I have> >???? a pair of mic headphones which I want to use with KX3. Now what do> >???? you think I will want? to do? Well, I'll? need to input a slew of> >???? parameters,? VOX delay, pitch volume, monitor compression etc. These> >???? should be organized under one topic:Headphone - mic use.? using> >???? headphones with voice mic including troubleshooting tips, not> >???? scattered all over the manual.> >> >???? Really thinking now about just selling all of my stuff, two mint> >???? condition Kx3s with covers, heat sinks , KPA100s, PX3s with covers,> >???? redundant extra cables. It seems every time I try to use my rig, I> >???? encounter a new problem. Obviously, i would like to upgrade my> >???? antenna, but at this point, I am more inclined just to bail.> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.>> View/Reply Online (#65232): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/message/65232> Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/69628295/2064844> Group Owner: Elecraft-KX+owner at groups.io> Unsubscribe:> https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/leave/4393303/1161009125/xyzzy? [> kengkopp at gmail.com]> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->>______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie 

From cx7tt at 4email.net  Mon Jan 13 16:11:50 2020
From: cx7tt at 4email.net (cx7tt at 4email.net)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:11:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s error code
Message-ID: <0758825b-255a-ae08-7d74-f694e9e5917b@4email.net>

Hola,
Getting error code on 17m FT8 ERR KP1, cant find in manual. Suggestions?
73
Tom
HP1XT

From wa4aip at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 17:00:07 2020
From: wa4aip at gmail.com (John Altman)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:00:07 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD working intermitterly
Message-ID: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>

 My K-Pod has stopped working ... it works (macros are functional) for a
few minutes after K3S turned on and then power light is out and button
functions do not work!  Turn rig off and back on a few minutes later and it
functions, for awhile.

I have reloaded full firmware for both K3S and P3 ... no behavioral change.

I have disconnected K-Pod cable at both rig and K-Pod, re-connect, no
change.
Cable is connected in jack under front panel.

Otherwise, K3S is fully functional.  I am aware the ?macros? reside within
the K3S.
Could this be the cable between the rig and K-POD?

Any ideas to remedy this situation will be greatly appreciated.  Direct
reply to WA4AIP at ARRL.NET.

Thank you,
John  WA4AIP
K-LINE Station
ARRL Charter Life Member

From ted.roycraft at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 17:18:07 2020
From: ted.roycraft at gmail.com (Ted Roycraft)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:18:07 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s error code
In-Reply-To: <0758825b-255a-ae08-7d74-f694e9e5917b@4email.net>
References: <0758825b-255a-ae08-7d74-f694e9e5917b@4email.net>
Message-ID: <2d38f4bd-833c-900d-c45c-fa9b42308b95@gmail.com>

Tom,

Do you have the latest K3 firmware?? The firmware release notes for MCU 
5.50 say this.
*------------------------------------------------------------
K3 MCU 5.50 / DSP 2.87, 5-17-2016*

** K-POD BUG FIX:*Eliminated "ERR KP1" messages (K-Pod parity errors) 
that were occurring when the K-Pod knob was spun at the same time the P3 
was used, along with heavy external polling from HRD, etc.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, this is from 2016 but it does indicate a problem between the K3 and 
K POD.

73, Ted, W2ZK

On 1/13/2020 4:11 PM, cx7tt at 4email.net wrote:
> Hola,
> Getting error code on 17m FT8 ERR KP1, cant find in manual. Suggestions?
> 73
> Tom
> HP1XT
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From macymonkeys at charter.net  Mon Jan 13 17:27:40 2020
From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 14:27:40 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
Message-ID: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>

Hard to believe 20 years have gone by since I built my K2. Well, I think it's been close to 20 years. I have S/N 586. In any event, I put it on air today. Somehow it got buried behind a flurry of other late model rigs. What a pleasure to listen to the K2 receiver; signals come in like there's a connection direct from the antenna to my headphones. 

Looking back at over 50 years in the hobby I must say building the K2 was one of the highlights. Thanks Elecraft!

John K7FD

From gregg.w6izt1 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 17:55:17 2020
From: gregg.w6izt1 at gmail.com (gregg.w6izt1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:55:17 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Mouse support
In-Reply-To: <5E1B8F8D.9365.D6B9FE5@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <5E1B8F8D.9365.D6B9FE5@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <000b01d5ca64$86c3b1d0$944b1570$@gmail.com>

Gary:

I asked this question shortly after the K4 was announced, and at that time
the answer was yes.

73
Gregg W6IZT

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Gary Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 21:29
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Mouse support

I've grown attached to using a wireless mouse and wonder if that is also an
option with the K4 & the monitor?

Thanks & HNY,

Gary
KA1J

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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan 13 18:08:53 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:08:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD working intermitterly
In-Reply-To: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8ade9381-158c-6e9c-4798-2a0bf002fb44@embarqmail.com>

John,

Do you tend to move the K-Pod frequently?  If so, that could be a reason 
for cable or connector failure.

Try holding the cable an inch or so from the connector (do that at each 
end).  Move the cable back and forth a bit - see if that induces the 
fail/no-fail situation.  If so, a cable replacement is in order.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/13/2020 5:00 PM, John Altman wrote:
>   My K-Pod has stopped working ... it works (macros are functional) for a
> few minutes after K3S turned on and then power light is out and button
> functions do not work!  Turn rig off and back on a few minutes later and it
> functions, for awhile.
> 
> I have reloaded full firmware for both K3S and P3 ... no behavioral change.
> 
> I have disconnected K-Pod cable at both rig and K-Pod, re-connect, no
> change.
> Cable is connected in jack under front panel.
> 
> Otherwise, K3S is fully functional.  I am aware the ?macros? reside within
> the K3S.
> Could this be the cable between the rig and K-POD?
> 
> Any ideas to remedy this situation will be greatly appreciated.  Direct
> reply to WA4AIP at ARRL.NET.
> 
> Thank you,
> John  WA4AIP
> K-LINE Station
> ARRL Charter Life Member
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jan 13 18:37:38 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:37:38 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
Message-ID: <E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>

And we're still selling them, too :)  

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 13, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Macy monkeys <macymonkeys at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Hard to believe 20 years have gone by since I built my K2. Well, I think it's been close to 20 years. I have S/N 586. In any event, I put it on air today. Somehow it got buried behind a flurry of other late model rigs. What a pleasure to listen to the K2 receiver; signals come in like there's a connection direct from the antenna to my headphones. 
> 
> Looking back at over 50 years in the hobby I must say building the K2 was one of the highlights. Thanks Elecraft!
> 
> John K7FD
> _______________




From Gary at ka1j.com  Mon Jan 13 19:18:35 2020
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:18:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Mouse support
In-Reply-To: <000b01d5ca64$86c3b1d0$944b1570$@gmail.com>
References: <5E1B8F8D.9365.D6B9FE5@Gary.ka1j.com>,
	<000b01d5ca64$86c3b1d0$944b1570$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5E1D08DB.6156.13FE697@Gary.ka1j.com>

Gregg,

Excellent! While not a "have to have", 
having wireless mouse support works 
perfectly with my desk.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Gary:
> 
> I asked this question shortly after the K4 was announced, and at that
> time the answer was yes.
> 
> 73
> Gregg W6IZT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent:
> Sunday, January 12, 2020 21:29 To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject:
> [Elecraft] K4 Mouse support
> 
> I've grown attached to using a wireless mouse and wonder if that is
> also an option with the K4 & the monitor?
> 
> Thanks & HNY,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> 
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From n7tb at comcast.net  Tue Jan 14 02:00:55 2020
From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 21:00:55 -1000
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
Message-ID: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>

I apologize in advance for the length of this post.  

I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.   

Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.    

The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.  

I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.  

For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby. 

73,

Terry, N7TB




From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 03:12:50 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 02:12:50 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ec4cda35-b54e-16af-5e5f-3b272b1726ef@montac.com>

I've never been to Watsonville...? BUT, I'd give my eye teeth to visit 
Elecraft HQ....? IF I was going to be within 200 miles or so, I would 
attempt to coordinate a visit. I have no idea what the company policies 
are RE: customer drop-ins/visits.

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/14/20 01:00, Terry Brown wrote:
> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>
> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>
> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>
> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>
> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>
> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, N7TB
>
>
>
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From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 04:23:03 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 03:23:03 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD working intermitterly
In-Reply-To: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b2f7b73c-0203-e934-cc1b-ce4374e973d0@montac.com>

MY bet is a bad KPOD cable....? As I remember it, it is a straight 
through cable with 6P6C, RJ12 connectors on both ends.
You could make one if you have CAT-5e cable, 6P6C connectors, and a 
crimp tool.
You simply use 3 of the 4-pairs...? Cut 4th pair back to jacket (brown 
has the loosest twist rate, I'd pick that one).

And whatever pair you use for Pins 1/2, simply cut the wire that WOULD 
be on Pin 1 back to the jacket at the radio at least, and I would cut it 
back on both ends to "be sure" AND not have a "stub" sticking out in space.
Crimp them, preferably with connector boot on the KPOD end.? IF you have 
your radio elevated on the from side, there is room for a boot on the 
radio end as well.

If you have the radio sitting flat, there MAY not be room for a 
boot....? 6P6C/RJ12 connector boots may be hard to find.
In the case that you DON'T use boots, it is IMPORTANT to make SURE that 
the jacket gets crimped under the connector's strain relief bar on crimp 
to keep the conductors from separating due to work hardening of the 
copper when moving the cable.

AND, as always for PATCH CABLES, use stranded cable and connectors 
spec'd for stranded cable to be safe.? You CAN use solid cable or solid 
wire connectors, but the durability will be greatly reduced.

Hope this helps...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/13/20 16:00, John Altman wrote:
>   My K-Pod has stopped working ... it works (macros are functional) for a
> few minutes after K3S turned on and then power light is out and button
> functions do not work!  Turn rig off and back on a few minutes later and it
> functions, for awhile.
>
> I have reloaded full firmware for both K3S and P3 ... no behavioral change.
>
> I have disconnected K-Pod cable at both rig and K-Pod, re-connect, no
> change.
> Cable is connected in jack under front panel.
>
> Otherwise, K3S is fully functional.  I am aware the ?macros? reside within
> the K3S.
> Could this be the cable between the rig and K-POD?
>
> Any ideas to remedy this situation will be greatly appreciated.  Direct
> reply to WA4AIP at ARRL.NET.
>
> Thank you,
> John  WA4AIP
> K-LINE Station
> ARRL Charter Life Member

From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 04:25:00 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 03:25:00 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
	<E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <67db3c29-5f46-f721-a674-199a367b1202@montac.com>

Wish I could afford to buy one while they are still available....? I 
would like to say that I had the experience of doing s solder build...? 
<smile>

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/13/20 17:37, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> And we're still selling them, too :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Macy monkeys <macymonkeys at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hard to believe 20 years have gone by since I built my K2. Well, I think it's been close to 20 years. I have S/N 586. In any event, I put it on air today. Somehow it got buried behind a flurry of other late model rigs. What a pleasure to listen to the K2 receiver; signals come in like there's a connection direct from the antenna to my headphones.
>>
>> Looking back at over 50 years in the hobby I must say building the K2 was one of the highlights. Thanks Elecraft!
>>
>> John K7FD
>> _______________
>
>
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From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 04:37:04 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 03:37:04 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD working intermitterly
In-Reply-To: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABVMHXW9TbmxCkR89QOhrM0AgXV=iz2yCV5a6P05kZOuArY8_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f463d3c-cef3-0a02-3d3c-c2bb1fbbcd91@montac.com>

My apologies....? I said it was RJ-12....? I believe I remembered 
incorrectly....? It's an RJ-25 (straight thru).? RJ-12 is a handset 
cable with NON-straight thru wiring... essentially reversed to bridge 
the handset to the base device.
RJ-25 is a 3-line, straight thru cable.? <blush>? That'll teach me to 
respond from an obviously faulty memory.

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/13/20 16:00, John Altman wrote:
>   My K-Pod has stopped working ... it works (macros are functional) for a
> few minutes after K3S turned on and then power light is out and button
> functions do not work!  Turn rig off and back on a few minutes later and it
> functions, for awhile.
>
> I have reloaded full firmware for both K3S and P3 ... no behavioral change.
>
> I have disconnected K-Pod cable at both rig and K-Pod, re-connect, no
> change.
> Cable is connected in jack under front panel.
>
> Otherwise, K3S is fully functional.  I am aware the ?macros? reside within
> the K3S.
> Could this be the cable between the rig and K-POD?
>
> Any ideas to remedy this situation will be greatly appreciated.  Direct
> reply to WA4AIP at ARRL.NET.
>
> Thank you,
> John  WA4AIP
> K-LINE Station
> ARRL Charter Life Member
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 05:17:33 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 05:17:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X
In-Reply-To: <5e1cda4d.1c69fb81.3ced3.4594@mx.google.com>
References: <5e1cda4d.1c69fb81.3ced3.4594@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <C1DBFFEC-662F-44B6-9A54-96F97FD09767@yahoo.com>

I agree.  Freds manuals are a God Send and wakes one up to really what the Elecraft rigs can do.  He also put out a great book on the skills of ham radio, ?The Successful Ham Radio Operators Handbook? or something like that.  See

http://www.ke7x.com/

I found it invaluable. 

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 4:03 PM, turnbull <turnbull at net1.ie> wrote:
> 
> ?Ken, We all miss our professor.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com> Date: 13/01/2020  15:29  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft-KX at groups.io, Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X Fred was a dear friend of mine, and entered many contests using my stationhere in Montana.  He especially excelled at SO2R, often working twostations at once.  Awesome to watch.  GAWD I miss him!73Ken Kopp - KoppOn Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 16:14 Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:> I will second that recommendation for the Fred Cady book.> It sounds like you are getting frustrated by many different angles that> are may not be related to each other.>> Go through Fred's book from front to back, doing his exercises as you go.> When you are finished, you will be responding to questions on the> reflector instead of asking them.>> Fred was a great teacher and writer.  He told me that his experience as> a professor told him that there were 3 types of learning.  Those who> could understand from just reading, and those who had to have hands-on> and those who learned best from doing visuals and exercises.  Fred> covered them all in his writings.>> I (as an engineer) have no problem following the basic Elecraft manuals,> and Fred has said that he has nothing in his books that is not covered> in the Elecraft manuals, but his presentation methods are different and> more expansive.>> 73,> Don W3FPR>> On 1/11/2020 5:45 PM, Rich wrote:> > I highly recommend "The Elecraft KX Line" by Fred Cady KE7X (SK).   You> > can order it from the Elecraft web site.> >> https://elecraft.com/collections/kx-line-books/products/the-elecraft-kx-line-book-by-fred-cady> >> >> >> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:04 PM Karl W Hubbard via Groups.Io> > <karlwhubbard=yahoo.com at groups.io <mailto:yahoo.com at groups.io>> wrote:> >> >     How do I get rid of the CW sounds when I input either via tap or> >     push to hold functions on my KX3? I don't know whether I've enabled> >     some macro function or what.> >> >     My 40 meters has now switched from LSB to USB indication . What am I> >     missing? Anything?> >> >     Now my ATU won't tune anything . Stays at 24.1-1 and powers down to> >     3.0 volts, even after refresh several times, even when I manually> >     tune my Alex loop to within 1.5 SWR. ( I had used the ATU to> >     routinely  fine-tune down to 1.1-1 -until today.)> >> >     I am getting more frustrated with the KX3 as time passes. Even> >     setting up my Heil headphones is a hassle.> >> >     The manual should be written with a goal oriented task., ie. I have> >     a pair of mic headphones which I want to use with KX3. Now what do> >     you think I will want  to do? Well, I'll  need to input a slew of> >     parameters,  VOX delay, pitch volume, monitor compression etc. These> >     should be organized under one topic:Headphone - mic use.  using> >     headphones with voice mic including troubleshooting tips, not> >     scattered all over the manual.> >> >     Really thinking now about just selling all of my stuff, two mint> >     condition Kx3s with covers, heat sinks , KPA100s, PX3s with covers,> >     redundant extra cables. It seems every time I try to use my rig, I> >     encounter a new problem. Obviously, i would like to upgrade my> >     antenna, but at this point, I am more inclined just to bail.> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.>> View/Reply Online (#65232): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/message/65232> Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/69628295/2064844> Group Owner: Elecraft-KX+owner at groups.io> Unsubscribe:> https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/leave/4393303/1161009125/xyzzy  [> kengkopp at gmail.com]> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->>______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie 
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 05:17:33 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 05:17:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X
In-Reply-To: <5e1cda4d.1c69fb81.3ced3.4594@mx.google.com>
References: <5e1cda4d.1c69fb81.3ced3.4594@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <C1DBFFEC-662F-44B6-9A54-96F97FD09767@yahoo.com>

I agree.  Freds manuals are a God Send and wakes one up to really what the Elecraft rigs can do.  He also put out a great book on the skills of ham radio, ?The Successful Ham Radio Operators Handbook? or something like that.  See

http://www.ke7x.com/

I found it invaluable. 

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 4:03 PM, turnbull <turnbull at net1.ie> wrote:
> 
> ?Ken, We all miss our professor.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com> Date: 13/01/2020  15:29  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft-KX at groups.io, Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X Fred was a dear friend of mine, and entered many contests using my stationhere in Montana.  He especially excelled at SO2R, often working twostations at once.  Awesome to watch.  GAWD I miss him!73Ken Kopp - KoppOn Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 16:14 Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:> I will second that recommendation for the Fred Cady book.> It sounds like you are getting frustrated by many different angles that> are may not be related to each other.>> Go through Fred's book from front to back, doing his exercises as you go.> When you are finished, you will be responding to questions on the> reflector instead of asking them.>> Fred was a great teacher and writer.  He told me that his experience as> a professor told him that there were 3 types of learning.  Those who> could understand from just reading, and those who had to have hands-on> and those who learned best from doing visuals and exercises.  Fred> covered them all in his writings.>> I (as an engineer) have no problem following the basic Elecraft manuals,> and Fred has said that he has nothing in his books that is not covered> in the Elecraft manuals, but his presentation methods are different and> more expansive.>> 73,> Don W3FPR>> On 1/11/2020 5:45 PM, Rich wrote:> > I highly recommend "The Elecraft KX Line" by Fred Cady KE7X (SK).   You> > can order it from the Elecraft web site.> >> https://elecraft.com/collections/kx-line-books/products/the-elecraft-kx-line-book-by-fred-cady> >> >> >> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:04 PM Karl W Hubbard via Groups.Io> > <karlwhubbard=yahoo.com at groups.io <mailto:yahoo.com at groups.io>> wrote:> >> >     How do I get rid of the CW sounds when I input either via tap or> >     push to hold functions on my KX3? I don't know whether I've enabled> >     some macro function or what.> >> >     My 40 meters has now switched from LSB to USB indication . What am I> >     missing? Anything?> >> >     Now my ATU won't tune anything . Stays at 24.1-1 and powers down to> >     3.0 volts, even after refresh several times, even when I manually> >     tune my Alex loop to within 1.5 SWR. ( I had used the ATU to> >     routinely  fine-tune down to 1.1-1 -until today.)> >> >     I am getting more frustrated with the KX3 as time passes. Even> >     setting up my Heil headphones is a hassle.> >> >     The manual should be written with a goal oriented task., ie. I have> >     a pair of mic headphones which I want to use with KX3. Now what do> >     you think I will want  to do? Well, I'll  need to input a slew of> >     parameters,  VOX delay, pitch volume, monitor compression etc. These> >     should be organized under one topic:Headphone - mic use.  using> >     headphones with voice mic including troubleshooting tips, not> >     scattered all over the manual.> >> >     Really thinking now about just selling all of my stuff, two mint> >     condition Kx3s with covers, heat sinks , KPA100s, PX3s with covers,> >     redundant extra cables. It seems every time I try to use my rig, I> >     encounter a new problem. Obviously, i would like to upgrade my> >     antenna, but at this point, I am more inclined just to bail.> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.>> View/Reply Online (#65232): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/message/65232> Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/69628295/2064844> Group Owner: Elecraft-KX+owner at groups.io> Unsubscribe:> https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/leave/4393303/1161009125/xyzzy  [> kengkopp at gmail.com]> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->>______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie 
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 05:20:58 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 05:20:58 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: For Sale: Older iPAD (Still working OK)
In-Reply-To: <em7c6023e7-85b2-40d2-9932-e1058842d72b@jimsdesktop-pc>
References: <em7c6023e7-85b2-40d2-9932-e1058842d72b@jimsdesktop-pc>
Message-ID: <4A5B527E-4D37-43D1-B65D-6FC6DB58EBCC@yahoo.com>

Has anyone used or still using a version 2 of the first iPad for ham radio?  I have two of them no longer being used because they are so slow compared to my newer Pro version.  They still must be good for something.  Please advise. And thank you.

Dave Djwilcox01 at gmail.com

K8WPE
Radio nut since 1960.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have an older (I believe 4th generation - first one with the "Retina" display) iPAD available if anyone is interested. (My wife bought me a new Gen 7 version.) It has 16 gigs of memory which is a little small by today's standards but it you don't put too many apps on it, it will work just fine.  It still holds a charge and will come with the charger and a new, much longer, "Lightning" cord.  The only problem with it is the iPAD's "Lightning" cord input jack is a little worn and you sometimes have to make sure that good contact is made when plugging it in to recharge.
> 
> There are no cracks in the screen or case and it comes with a leather protective cover that's still serviceable though it has seen better days.  I've wiped all personal and app data from it and it comes up wanting a new owner to take it over.
> 
> Original cost, some 7 or 8 years ago was just over $500.  I'd like to get $90 out of it (via PayPal only, no checks or money orders) and that will include shipping to anywhere in the US.
> 
> Please contact me off list if interested (w0eb at cox.net) to keep the clutter down on the reflector.
> 
> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
> 
> 
> 
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 05:20:58 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 05:20:58 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: For Sale: Older iPAD (Still working OK)
In-Reply-To: <em7c6023e7-85b2-40d2-9932-e1058842d72b@jimsdesktop-pc>
References: <em7c6023e7-85b2-40d2-9932-e1058842d72b@jimsdesktop-pc>
Message-ID: <4A5B527E-4D37-43D1-B65D-6FC6DB58EBCC@yahoo.com>

Has anyone used or still using a version 2 of the first iPad for ham radio?  I have two of them no longer being used because they are so slow compared to my newer Pro version.  They still must be good for something.  Please advise. And thank you.

Dave Djwilcox01 at gmail.com

K8WPE
Radio nut since 1960.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I have an older (I believe 4th generation - first one with the "Retina" display) iPAD available if anyone is interested. (My wife bought me a new Gen 7 version.) It has 16 gigs of memory which is a little small by today's standards but it you don't put too many apps on it, it will work just fine.  It still holds a charge and will come with the charger and a new, much longer, "Lightning" cord.  The only problem with it is the iPAD's "Lightning" cord input jack is a little worn and you sometimes have to make sure that good contact is made when plugging it in to recharge.
> 
> There are no cracks in the screen or case and it comes with a leather protective cover that's still serviceable though it has seen better days.  I've wiped all personal and app data from it and it comes up wanting a new owner to take it over.
> 
> Original cost, some 7 or 8 years ago was just over $500.  I'd like to get $90 out of it (via PayPal only, no checks or money orders) and that will include shipping to anywhere in the US.
> 
> Please contact me off list if interested (w0eb at cox.net) to keep the clutter down on the reflector.
> 
> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
> 
> 
> 
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From dave at nk7z.net  Tue Jan 14 06:52:23 2020
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 03:52:23 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <ec4cda35-b54e-16af-5e5f-3b272b1726ef@montac.com>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
	<ec4cda35-b54e-16af-5e5f-3b272b1726ef@montac.com>
Message-ID: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>

Each visitor gets a free K4!  :)

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/14/20 12:12 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
> I've never been to Watsonville...? BUT, I'd give my eye teeth to visit 
> Elecraft HQ....? IF I was going to be within 200 miles or so, I would 
> attempt to coordinate a visit. I have no idea what the company policies 
> are RE: customer drop-ins/visits.
> 
> 73,
> 
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> 
> On 01/14/20 01:00, Terry Brown wrote:
>> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>>
>> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I 
>> went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 
>> years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW 
>> skills and bought a preowned K2.? I had never heard of Elecraft before 
>> I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>>
>> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base 
>> station.? At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to? my first 
>> world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for 
>> the K4.
>>
>> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to 
>> become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about 
>> in part? because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.?? My 
>> renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with 
>> what Wayne and Eric have created.
>>
>> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.?? I see it 
>> runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>>
>> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile 
>> stop??? I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a 
>> minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has 
>> become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Terry, N7TB
>>
>>
>>
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Tue Jan 14 07:14:14 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 07:14:14 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
References: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <1098A165-6F19-4995-B32A-742BB074FDA1@widomaker.com>

Yes, they?ll give you a free K4 Button!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 6:54 AM, Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Each visitor gets a free K4!  :)
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
>> On 1/14/20 12:12 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> I've never been to Watsonville...  BUT, I'd give my eye teeth to visit Elecraft HQ....  IF I was going to be within 200 miles or so, I would attempt to coordinate a visit. I have no idea what the company policies are RE: customer drop-ins/visits.
>> 73,
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>> On 01/14/20 01:00, Terry Brown wrote:
>>> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>>> 
>>> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>>> 
>>> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>>> 
>>> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>>> 
>>> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Terry, N7TB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 07:15:25 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:15:25 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s 400 Hz filter differences...
In-Reply-To: <d50b7f43-ad30-a73e-5b35-472491ee63bd@triconet.org>
References: <8205.1578928937512097227@groups.io>
	<21302.1578947707531595858@groups.io>
	<d50b7f43-ad30-a73e-5b35-472491ee63bd@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <81550151-95ce-fdd2-f68d-44d3d07e942b@montac.com>

The 400Hz filter on my Main RX is an Elecraft (by INRAD) 8-pole filter 
in a Faraday cage and no offset.
The 400Hz filter I just received for my SubRX? is an Elecraft (by 
Vibroplex?) that is a 6-pole filter with no Farady cage AND it has a 
-0.71 kHz offset.

I called support when I saw the obvious differences, and they said, 
"Don't worry about it.? Enter the SubRX offset exactly as on the crystal 
(no averaging with the [supposed] 0.00 offset on the 8-pole filter), and 
let the new Synthesizers do the heavy lifting." or words to that effect.

I hear what was said, and I don't want to come off like I don't trust 
what I was told....? But something simply is not sitting right with me 
on this.... a 6-pole "matched" with an 8-pole?? No offset averaging?? 
What about the difference in the skirts between a 6-pole and an 
8-pole.... Aren't the cutoffs and cutoff rates different?? I realize 
that things change, and that perhaps the instructions for averaging the 
offsets is not applicable here... (though I don't yet understand why)

Can someone clear this up for me so even I can understand it.

Seems to me that I either need to get a matching INRAD-made 8-pole, or 
buy another of these new parts and try to get it matched.

Want to move on this, because IF I am going to have a hope in getting a 
"matching" 6-pole (new stock) 400 Hz filter, I need to try and do so 
from within the same batch that the one I just bought came from.
The prospect of finding an "by INRAD" 8-pole available on the market 
seems much less likely...

Obviously, I am operating on a number of assumptions here... which is 
why I am asking...


73

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389


From w6png at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 08:01:28 2020
From: w6png at yahoo.com (Paul Gacek)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:01:28 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
References: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <5E22A09D-69CE-4CC7-BC98-B77C748C1FC6@yahoo.com>

Terry

I?ve stopped by the facility at Watsonville to drop off/pick up stuff. I?m not sure if a ?factory? tour was an option but pretty much all I saw was the lobby! Beyond getting my stuff, it was great to put faces to names of Team Elecraft that I have interacted with over the years.

As to driving highway 1. My sense is its ?easier?/more pleasant to do it going south to north as you aren?t constantly worrying about the shear drop to your immediate right.

Paul Gacek
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog

> On Jan 14, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Each visitor gets a free K4!  :)
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
>> On 1/14/20 12:12 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> I've never been to Watsonville...  BUT, I'd give my eye teeth to visit Elecraft HQ....  IF I was going to be within 200 miles or so, I would attempt to coordinate a visit. I have no idea what the company policies are RE: customer drop-ins/visits.
>> 73,
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>> On 01/14/20 01:00, Terry Brown wrote:
>>> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>>> 
>>> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>>> 
>>> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>>> 
>>> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>>> 
>>> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Terry, N7TB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From w6png at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 08:01:28 2020
From: w6png at yahoo.com (Paul Gacek)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:01:28 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
References: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <5E22A09D-69CE-4CC7-BC98-B77C748C1FC6@yahoo.com>

Terry

I?ve stopped by the facility at Watsonville to drop off/pick up stuff. I?m not sure if a ?factory? tour was an option but pretty much all I saw was the lobby! Beyond getting my stuff, it was great to put faces to names of Team Elecraft that I have interacted with over the years.

As to driving highway 1. My sense is its ?easier?/more pleasant to do it going south to north as you aren?t constantly worrying about the shear drop to your immediate right.

Paul Gacek
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog

> On Jan 14, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Each visitor gets a free K4!  :)
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
>> On 1/14/20 12:12 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> I've never been to Watsonville...  BUT, I'd give my eye teeth to visit Elecraft HQ....  IF I was going to be within 200 miles or so, I would attempt to coordinate a visit. I have no idea what the company policies are RE: customer drop-ins/visits.
>> 73,
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>> On 01/14/20 01:00, Terry Brown wrote:
>>> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>>> 
>>> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>>> 
>>> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>>> 
>>> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>>> 
>>> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Terry, N7TB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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From hs0zed at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 08:07:22 2020
From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:07:22 +0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <67db3c29-5f46-f721-a674-199a367b1202@montac.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
	<E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
	<67db3c29-5f46-f721-a674-199a367b1202@montac.com>
Message-ID: <6d6f0308-8777-d1ac-d721-10f6a5ea395a@gmail.com>

Break the piggy bank, take out a loan, sell the kids, just do what it 
takes. I did back in 2017 and built 7723 while I was working in the 
desert. It has SSB, NB, 160 and RS232 options and was a lot of fun 
considering it works as well, if not better, than a lot of other radios. 
The KX series might have it beat on a lot of fronts but I don;t think 
they can compete in the smiles per qso at the same rate. Probably the 
last real kit radio, ever!

There is though another option, and one I'm about to start out on. 
Building a Heathkit, more correctly rebuilding. A lot were never 
particularly well built in the first place and many components were 
perhaps not the best quality so I plan to render an SB-102 to its 
constituent parts and start all over again, with new R's particularly, 
C's where necessary and other parts as required. There are so many out 
there that getting another one or two for parts is not too onerous. I'll 
still say the K2 will be the better radio, of course but I'd bet it 
starts batting up there in the smiles per qso stakes.

Kit building can be dismissed as soldering practice when you think all 
the hard work is done for you but that would be to completely disregard 
the plain fun factor. Get em while they're (still) hot!

Martin, HS0ZED




On 14/01/2020 16:25, Clay Autery wrote:
> Wish I could afford to buy one while they are still available....? I 
> would like to say that I had the experience of doing s solder 
> build...? <smile>
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 01/13/20 17:37, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> And we're still selling them, too :)
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Macy monkeys <macymonkeys at charter.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hard to believe 20 years have gone by since I built my K2. Well, I 
>>> think it's been close to 20 years. I have S/N 586. In any event, I 
>>> put it on air today. Somehow it got buried behind a flurry of other 
>>> late model rigs. What a pleasure to listen to the K2 receiver; 
>>> signals come in like there's a connection direct from the antenna to 
>>> my headphones.
>>>
>>> Looking back at over 50 years in the hobby I must say building the 
>>> K2 was one of the highlights. Thanks Elecraft!
>>>
>>> John K7FD
>>> _______________
>>
>>
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From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 08:15:19 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 07:15:19 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <6d6f0308-8777-d1ac-d721-10f6a5ea395a@gmail.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
	<E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
	<67db3c29-5f46-f721-a674-199a367b1202@montac.com>
	<6d6f0308-8777-d1ac-d721-10f6a5ea395a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <80e09722-f1f6-e997-c487-1af259d8837b@montac.com>

You're killin' me!? I just dropped a big stack-o-cash on finishing off 
my K3s/P3...? And I am in the process of building a 10 Gbit network for 
the house and adding DC power centers in three separte locations in the 
house to wipe out the SMPS "problem".
The XYL will kill me if she sees one more Elecraft box show up anytime 
soon.? LOL!!

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/14/20 07:07, Martin Sole wrote:
> Break the piggy bank, take out a loan, sell the kids, just do what it 
> takes. I did back in 2017 and built 7723 while I was working in the 
> desert. It has SSB, NB, 160 and RS232 options and was a lot of fun 
> considering it works as well, if not better, than a lot of other 
> radios. The KX series might have it beat on a lot of fronts but I 
> don;t think they can compete in the smiles per qso at the same rate. 
> Probably the last real kit radio, ever!
>
> There is though another option, and one I'm about to start out on. 
> Building a Heathkit, more correctly rebuilding. A lot were never 
> particularly well built in the first place and many components were 
> perhaps not the best quality so I plan to render an SB-102 to its 
> constituent parts and start all over again, with new R's particularly, 
> C's where necessary and other parts as required. There are so many out 
> there that getting another one or two for parts is not too onerous. 
> I'll still say the K2 will be the better radio, of course but I'd bet 
> it starts batting up there in the smiles per qso stakes.
>
> Kit building can be dismissed as soldering practice when you think all 
> the hard work is done for you but that would be to completely 
> disregard the plain fun factor. Get em while they're (still) hot!
>
> Martin, HS0ZED
>
>
>
>
> On 14/01/2020 16:25, Clay Autery wrote:
>> Wish I could afford to buy one while they are still available....? I 
>> would like to say that I had the experience of doing s solder 
>> build...? <smile>
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 01/13/20 17:37, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> And we're still selling them, too :)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Macy monkeys <macymonkeys at charter.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hard to believe 20 years have gone by since I built my K2. Well, I 
>>>> think it's been close to 20 years. I have S/N 586. In any event, I 
>>>> put it on air today. Somehow it got buried behind a flurry of other 
>>>> late model rigs. What a pleasure to listen to the K2 receiver; 
>>>> signals come in like there's a connection direct from the antenna 
>>>> to my headphones.
>>>>
>>>> Looking back at over 50 years in the hobby I must say building the 
>>>> K2 was one of the highlights. Thanks Elecraft!
>>>>
>>>> John K7FD
>>>> _______________

From w5rg at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 08:52:19 2020
From: w5rg at yahoo.com (Bob Gibson)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:52:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw:  Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1105162769.7448266.1579009939485@mail.yahoo.com>

Very well said!!

?? 73s Bob W5RG
 

   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Terry Brown <n7tb at comcast.net>To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 1:04:19 AM CSTSubject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
 I apologize in advance for the length of this post.? 

I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.? I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.? 

Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.? At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to? my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.? ? 

The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part? because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.? My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.? 

I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.? I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.? 

For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?? I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby. 

73,

Terry, N7TB



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From k6vn at VanNorman.com  Tue Jan 14 08:53:10 2020
From: k6vn at VanNorman.com (Michael Van Norman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 05:53:10 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <56a5ceef-4812-8514-0a16-2d90dc057a9d@VanNorman.com>

Terry,

It is absolutely worth it.? If you have time and know when you will be 
there, I would ask for a tour.? They may or may not be able to 
accommodate you; but I did so a couple years ago, and it was a great 
experience.? I was immensely impressed with the time they took to show 
me around and explain how they do things.? Madelyn was fabulous in 
setting it up, and Cody gave full explanations? of how things worked and 
answered everything I could throw at him.? They were very generous with 
their time and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

73,

Mike, K6VN
(K3S, KX3, KX2, and soon K4D)

On 1/13/20 23:00, Terry Brown wrote:
> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>
> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>
> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>
> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>
> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>
> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, N7TB
>
>
>
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From ka8imzmike at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 09:24:11 2020
From: ka8imzmike at gmail.com (Michael Luberto)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:24:11 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CD667A8B-5E33-4C98-A589-29D63686AD03@gmail.com>

I was on a West coast trip in September of 2018 and dropped in at Elecraft headquarters at Watsonville unannounced on a Friday afternoon. It was an amazing experience as I was able to tour their facility. Met a number of their associates and very much appreciated their friendly reception. I achieved a much better understanding of their commitment to our great hobby. I am a K3S and KX3 owner and took some great photos of my visit and highly recommend a visit if you are in the neighborhood. I was even given a free Elecraft hat.

Mike KA8IMZ
Celebrating 40 years in Amateur Radio

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2020, at 2:02 AM, Terry Brown <n7tb at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I apologize in advance for the length of this post.  
> 
> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.   
> 
> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.    
> 
> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.  
> 
> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.  
> 
> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Terry, N7TB
> 
> 
> 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 14 10:06:29 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:06:29 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
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Terry,

If you are able, call (or better email) the office a couple days prior 
to your visit.  That way they can be prepared for you and will increase 
your chances of a complete tour.  If you just drop in and they are busy, 
they will have to be more brief.

If you can, make your visit Thursday or Friday.  Monday and Tuesday are 
busiest catching up with weekend emails and voicemail, and I  believe 
Wednesday morning is staff meeting time.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/14/2020 2:00 AM, Terry Brown wrote:

> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
> 
> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
> 

From k7im at icloud.com  Tue Jan 14 11:02:17 2020
From: k7im at icloud.com (Michael K Bottles)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 08:02:17 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit Elecraft
Message-ID: <9CC9A6AF-6CE2-4082-AB50-E6131D0F7773@icloud.com>

FWIW,

I very much enjoyed my visit to them in September. Nice people, nice company.
(I ordered a K-4 because of that visit.)
Kim - K7IM

Sent from my iPad

From ab2tc at arrl.net  Tue Jan 14 12:17:34 2020
From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:17:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s 400 Hz filter differences...
In-Reply-To: <81550151-95ce-fdd2-f68d-44d3d07e942b@montac.com>
References: <81550151-95ce-fdd2-f68d-44d3d07e942b@montac.com>
Message-ID: <1579022254272-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Clay,

I have a 5-pole filter with -0.85kHz offset according to the label on it.
It's yours for the asking if it's any good to you. It was working when I
removed it a number of years ago.

AB2TC - Knut


Clay Autery-2 wrote
> The 400Hz filter on my Main RX is an Elecraft (by INRAD) 8-pole filter 
> in a Faraday cage and no offset.
> The 400Hz filter I just received for my SubRX? is an Elecraft (by 
> Vibroplex?) that is a 6-pole filter with no Farady cage AND it has a 
> -0.71 kHz offset.
> 
> I called support when I saw the obvious differences, and they said,
>  
> <snip>





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From bemeier at bellsouth.net  Tue Jan 14 12:19:13 2020
From: bemeier at bellsouth.net (Bruce Meier)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:19:13 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #1193 encoder needed
References: <002c01d5cafe$becc4660$3c64d320$.ref@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <002c01d5cafe$becc4660$3c64d320$@bellsouth.net>

I believe that my K3 #1193 has a bad CMP/PWR/MON encoder.   I looked on the
Elecraft parts site and can't find it.  I would appreciate someone sending
me the correct part number and price.

 

I already submitted a request (email) to Elecraft and currently awaiting a
response.

 

Thanks and 73,

Bruce N1LN


From nr4c at widomaker.com  Tue Jan 14 12:16:40 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:16:40 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s 400 Hz filter differences...
In-Reply-To: <81550151-95ce-fdd2-f68d-44d3d07e942b@montac.com>
References: <81550151-95ce-fdd2-f68d-44d3d07e942b@montac.com>
Message-ID: <A1F31555-A50A-42B3-B7E0-30B1BE41F880@widomaker.com>

I think you?ll find in the release notes that main/sub filters no longer need to be matched.  

However, I think I?d be happier with two alike, either 2 8-poles or 2 6-poles. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> ?The 400Hz filter on my Main RX is an Elecraft (by INRAD) 8-pole filter in a Faraday cage and no offset.
> The 400Hz filter I just received for my SubRX  is an Elecraft (by Vibroplex?) that is a 6-pole filter with no Farady cage AND it has a -0.71 kHz offset.
> 
> I called support when I saw the obvious differences, and they said, "Don't worry about it.  Enter the SubRX offset exactly as on the crystal (no averaging with the [supposed] 0.00 offset on the 8-pole filter), and let the new Synthesizers do the heavy lifting." or words to that effect.
> 
> I hear what was said, and I don't want to come off like I don't trust what I was told....  But something simply is not sitting right with me on this.... a 6-pole "matched" with an 8-pole?  No offset averaging?  What about the difference in the skirts between a 6-pole and an 8-pole.... Aren't the cutoffs and cutoff rates different?  I realize that things change, and that perhaps the instructions for averaging the offsets is not applicable here... (though I don't yet understand why)
> 
> Can someone clear this up for me so even I can understand it.
> 
> Seems to me that I either need to get a matching INRAD-made 8-pole, or buy another of these new parts and try to get it matched.
> 
> Want to move on this, because IF I am going to have a hope in getting a "matching" 6-pole (new stock) 400 Hz filter, I need to try and do so from within the same batch that the one I just bought came from.
> The prospect of finding an "by INRAD" 8-pole available on the market seems much less likely...
> 
> Obviously, I am operating on a number of assumptions here... which is why I am asking...
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> 
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From myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com  Tue Jan 14 13:22:08 2020
From: myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com (myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:22:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problems
Message-ID: <0F62D099-7F64-4A3E-886F-878D1718364F@cfl.rr.com>

Hello,

I have been working on a new K2 the last couple of months. SN 7927

Yesterday I finished and installed the KSB2 SSB adapter.

I have been mostly listening. All seemed normal with receive on 80 and 40 meters, on LSB.

But, as soon as I go to USB on any band below 21 mhz, or LSB 21 and above, the S meter goes to nearly full scale, and the receiver is desensitized. If I turn off the AGC, the receiver seems to work normally receiving both LSB and USB.

I have checked the BFO values and used the default value of 4916.3 for USB and 4913.5 for LSB.

No setting of the USB BFO seems to solve the issue. I can change the value and drop the S meter with AGC on and hear the Receiver apparently return to normal, but then I can?t tune USB and the number I am using then is close to the LSB value.

Why the receiver works normally with AGC off, but not with AGC on on OP1 filter is puzzling to me. Everything is normal on the K2?s internal filters.

I assume this has something to do with the crystal filter and BFO frequencies, but no idea where to go.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

73 Chuck K8LBH


From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Jan 14 13:25:35 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:25:35 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <d639a22d-cef6-e43f-425f-fffd9a0a8fd6@foothill.net>

On SR1, it's a tad more than "a stone's throw" but on SR1, it's a very 
long trip from OR to SoCal, you might enjoy the stop.? I'd let them know 
your plans and dates/times, they'll probably accommodate you.? Both 
Wayne and Eric are very accessible however I think Wayne may work out of 
Aptos some of the time.? Elecraft does make great radios.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 1/13/2020 11:00 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>
> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>
> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>
> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>
> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>
> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, N7TB
>


From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 13:53:26 2020
From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:53:26 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <5E22A09D-69CE-4CC7-BC98-B77C748C1FC6@yahoo.com>
References: <cad7a5ed-c056-e7a8-4a28-6a21f51a8e36@nk7z.net>
	<5E22A09D-69CE-4CC7-BC98-B77C748C1FC6@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAH0gZcZJDKJXwV5opWtQCiFkukxJsLBjS55Sf6764ogsj01FUw@mail.gmail.com>

hi Paul - I'm sorry I completely disagree. You do the drive north to south
so you can easily pull over for every OMG view turnout without needing to
turn left. :) 73 jeff wk6i

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 5:03 AM Paul Gacek via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

>
> As to driving highway 1. My sense is its ?easier?/more pleasant to do it
> going south to north as you aren?t constantly worrying about the shear drop
> to your immediate right.
>




> --
>
Jeff Stai ~ WK6I ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com
RTTY op at W7RN
Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/

From KY5G at montac.com  Tue Jan 14 14:01:25 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:01:25 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s 400 Hz filter differences...
In-Reply-To: <A1F31555-A50A-42B3-B7E0-30B1BE41F880@widomaker.com>
References: <81550151-95ce-fdd2-f68d-44d3d07e942b@montac.com>
	<A1F31555-A50A-42B3-B7E0-30B1BE41F880@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <f75ae9ec-9f94-2ee5-0009-a101e308fa29@montac.com>

Yep... here it is right here, wayyyy back on v5.33:

/** DIVERSITY WORKS WITH MISMATCHED MAIN/SUB RX FILTERS: Diversity mode 
in the K3S (or a K3 with the KSYN3A installed) now works with any 
combination of main/sub RX crystal filters. They can have different 
bandwidths or offsets, and it's not necessary to have an equal number of 
filters in each receiver. Note: Matched filters are optimal for 
diversity, but non-matched filters will still perform well.*//*
*/

"Matched filters are optimal...."

End of discussion as to IF I will get matched filters....? Now to decide 
between the "in-house" 6-pole I just bought, or an INRAD #701 that 
matches the one I bought with my MAIN Receiver...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/14/20 11:16, Nr4c wrote:
> I think you?ll find in the release notes that main/sub filters no longer need to be matched.
>
> However, I think I?d be happier with two alike, either 2 8-poles or 2 6-poles.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?The 400Hz filter on my Main RX is an Elecraft (by INRAD) 8-pole filter in a Faraday cage and no offset.
>> The 400Hz filter I just received for my SubRX  is an Elecraft (by Vibroplex?) that is a 6-pole filter with no Farady cage AND it has a -0.71 kHz offset.
>>
>> I called support when I saw the obvious differences, and they said, "Don't worry about it.  Enter the SubRX offset exactly as on the crystal (no averaging with the [supposed] 0.00 offset on the 8-pole filter), and let the new Synthesizers do the heavy lifting." or words to that effect.
>>
>> I hear what was said, and I don't want to come off like I don't trust what I was told....  But something simply is not sitting right with me on this.... a 6-pole "matched" with an 8-pole?  No offset averaging?  What about the difference in the skirts between a 6-pole and an 8-pole.... Aren't the cutoffs and cutoff rates different?  I realize that things change, and that perhaps the instructions for averaging the offsets is not applicable here... (though I don't yet understand why)
>>
>> Can someone clear this up for me so even I can understand it.
>>
>> Seems to me that I either need to get a matching INRAD-made 8-pole, or buy another of these new parts and try to get it matched.
>>
>> Want to move on this, because IF I am going to have a hope in getting a "matching" 6-pole (new stock) 400 Hz filter, I need to try and do so from within the same batch that the one I just bought came from.
>> The prospect of finding an "by INRAD" 8-pole available on the market seems much less likely...
>>
>> Obviously, I am operating on a number of assumptions here... which is why I am asking...
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389

From g0ruz at g0ruz.com  Tue Jan 14 14:13:06 2020
From: g0ruz at g0ruz.com (Conrad PA5Y)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:13:06 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Setting Up For WSJT-X Receive Levels
In-Reply-To: <6695cfb6-c722-db9c-139b-2031e683c219@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <CADkB6Up9uGd=sJWUyezK48QR6Yz8VN-M1QvtmeDsRvyUKYCnzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<6695cfb6-c722-db9c-139b-2031e683c219@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <AM5P189MB038760FDFBEDEF3FE857111FB5340@AM5P189MB0387.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

That makes perfect sense to me Jim, however I have my AGC threshold set quite high to stop contest mush. I will let you know how I go on during this summer's 6m Es season which is a particularly harsh test in this neck of the woods. I may have to adjust the AGC for 50.313 which is the new 'centre of activity'

73

Conrad PA5Y

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 13 January 2020 19:20
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Setting Up For WSJT-X Receive Levels

On 1/13/2020 7:10 AM, Tox wrote:
> I've been using a kx3 to play with ft8. Finding intermittent severe 
> QRM is rendering it deaf to due desense. (Signals that are coming in 
> at -5 disappear from the waterfall when the source fires.)

There is some bad advice in the setup instructions for WSJT-X to set the RX audio drive to the computer at 30 dB indicated on the green level bar at the bottom right of the display. This WILL cause weak signals to be lost to the decoder in the presence of a very strong one. I've learned to set that audio drive level so that, with RX signals present, that green bar is around 70 dB but never turns red (a bit over 80 dB).

For those reading the mail -- the logic is simple. The A/D converter has a dynamic range of about 90 dB. The green bar shows where the top of that 90 dB is set. Let's say a very strong signal, 50 dB over S9, takes over the AGC and hits the computer at 40 dB. Another signal in the waterfall would have to be S9 +10 dB to be decoded -- any weaker signal falls below the range of the A/D! But if I set the green bar to 75 dB, an S9 signal would be 25 dB above the bottom of the decoder. Each S-unit is 5 or 6 dB (depending on each mfr's definition of an S-unit); if 5 dB,
S8 would be 20 dB above the bottom, S7 15 dB, S6 10 dB, S5 5 dB. Now, a signal between S4 and S5 can be decoded.

Another point. The appearance of the spectrum display can be deceiving, making signals appear wider than they are. WSJT-X can decode signals that appear to be covered by strong adjacent signals. The apparent covering is an artifact of how the waterfall is able to display amplitude of the received signal. The decoder sees "beneath" what the display shows.

73, Jim K9YC
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 14 14:52:05 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:52:05 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problems
In-Reply-To: <0F62D099-7F64-4A3E-886F-878D1718364F@cfl.rr.com>
References: <0F62D099-7F64-4A3E-886F-878D1718364F@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <b86f7c81-878e-8771-28b1-e924a8bbd4eb@embarqmail.com>

Chuck,

Your guess that the BFO is positioned inside the filter passbaad is 
likely correct.

Do you have the SSB FL1 filter set to OP1?  If not, try that first. 
Many times the filter on the RF Board (used for more narrow filter 
settings) becomes VERY wide - much wider than indicated by the K2.  It 
depends on the exact characteristics of the varactors.

If you are using the SSB OP1 filter, then check the capacitors around 
the KSB2 filter crystals for proper values.  An improper capacitor will 
distort the passband shape and can make the passband quite wide.

The best way and more certain way to analyze the problem is to look at 
the K2 audio with an audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram running on 
your computer and band noise fed into the K2 antenna (no signals, just 
noise)

You can download Spectrogram from my website www.w3fpr.com (scroll to 
near the bottom of the home page to find the local links).  If you do 
not use Windows, there are audio spectrum analyzers for other operating 
systems.
Instructions for setting up Spectrogram 5.17 and using it to align the 
filters can be found on Tom Hammond N0SS (SK) website preserved at 
http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_filters_using_gram_v5r17.pdf.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/14/2020 1:22 PM, myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been working on a new K2 the last couple of months. SN 7927
> 
> Yesterday I finished and installed the KSB2 SSB adapter.
> 
> I have been mostly listening. All seemed normal with receive on 80 and 40 meters, on LSB.
> 
> But, as soon as I go to USB on any band below 21 mhz, or LSB 21 and above, the S meter goes to nearly full scale, and the receiver is desensitized. If I turn off the AGC, the receiver seems to work normally receiving both LSB and USB.
> 
> I have checked the BFO values and used the default value of 4916.3 for USB and 4913.5 for LSB.
> 
> No setting of the USB BFO seems to solve the issue. I can change the value and drop the S meter with AGC on and hear the Receiver apparently return to normal, but then I can?t tune USB and the number I am using then is close to the LSB value.
> 
> Why the receiver works normally with AGC off, but not with AGC on on OP1 filter is puzzling to me. Everything is normal on the K2?s internal filters.
> 
> I assume this has something to do with the crystal filter and BFO frequencies, but no idea where to go.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> 73 Chuck K8LBH
> 

From myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com  Tue Jan 14 17:22:45 2020
From: myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com (myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:22:45 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problems
In-Reply-To: <b86f7c81-878e-8771-28b1-e924a8bbd4eb@embarqmail.com>
References: <0F62D099-7F64-4A3E-886F-878D1718364F@cfl.rr.com>
	<b86f7c81-878e-8771-28b1-e924a8bbd4eb@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <3CF41724-B2BF-4D29-B19B-05EAC10748A8@cfl.rr.com>

Don,

I downloaded the software, and found I could get my SSB OPT1 filter looking great until I turned on the AGC in USB!

Well I did solve it. It was a poorly aligned L34 causing the problem. I had read on this list that L34 was very broad and did not do much. Not at all true!

Now turning AGC off and on does what you would expect. I am going to work though with the new software to better tweak things!

Thanks!

Chuck K8LBH

> On Jan 14, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> Your guess that the BFO is positioned inside the filter passbaad is likely correct.
> 
> Do you have the SSB FL1 filter set to OP1?  If not, try that first. Many times the filter on the RF Board (used for more narrow filter settings) becomes VERY wide - much wider than indicated by the K2.  It depends on the exact characteristics of the varactors.
> 
> If you are using the SSB OP1 filter, then check the capacitors around the KSB2 filter crystals for proper values.  An improper capacitor will distort the passband shape and can make the passband quite wide.
> 
> The best way and more certain way to analyze the problem is to look at the K2 audio with an audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram running on your computer and band noise fed into the K2 antenna (no signals, just noise)
> 
> You can download Spectrogram from my website www.w3fpr.com (scroll to near the bottom of the home page to find the local links).  If you do not use Windows, there are audio spectrum analyzers for other operating systems.
> Instructions for setting up Spectrogram 5.17 and using it to align the filters can be found on Tom Hammond N0SS (SK) website preserved at http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_filters_using_gram_v5r17.pdf.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 1/14/2020 1:22 PM, myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I have been working on a new K2 the last couple of months. SN 7927
>> Yesterday I finished and installed the KSB2 SSB adapter.
>> I have been mostly listening. All seemed normal with receive on 80 and 40 meters, on LSB.
>> But, as soon as I go to USB on any band below 21 mhz, or LSB 21 and above, the S meter goes to nearly full scale, and the receiver is desensitized. If I turn off the AGC, the receiver seems to work normally receiving both LSB and USB.
>> I have checked the BFO values and used the default value of 4916.3 for USB and 4913.5 for LSB.
>> No setting of the USB BFO seems to solve the issue. I can change the value and drop the S meter with AGC on and hear the Receiver apparently return to normal, but then I can?t tune USB and the number I am using then is close to the LSB value.
>> Why the receiver works normally with AGC off, but not with AGC on on OP1 filter is puzzling to me. Everything is normal on the K2?s internal filters.
>> I assume this has something to do with the crystal filter and BFO frequencies, but no idea where to go.
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>> 73 Chuck K8LBH


From gt-i at gmx.net  Tue Jan 14 18:06:00 2020
From: gt-i at gmx.net (gt-i at gmx.net)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:06:00 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing
 K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <af64a036-494e-8525-1357-aaed907ed0be@montac.com>
References: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
	<15E90C36DA65299D.15008@groups.io>
	<1529f955-92df-1427-12ab-821c14b6516a@montac.com>
	<f85376de-85f5-7bac-25a1-ef40060ddf52@embarqmail.com>
	<af64a036-494e-8525-1357-aaed907ed0be@montac.com>
Message-ID: <3c521478-3f68-610c-6e50-847c0455d1ab@gmx.net>

Clay,
If you get this message, your GND connection may not be ok. I too had 
this problem when installing the transverter on my "old" K3. Remember 
the +12V will be delivered by a single wire, the GND comes from the side 
plate of the K3 which *must* be sanded, which was not the case on mine.
Also, check that the XV's housing is not sitting on any other parts 
further down.
hth
73 Gernot DF5RF


Am 12.01.2020 um 18:33 schrieb Clay Autery:
> 1)? I can never GET to transmit on 2 meters. It goes into "HI CUR" 
> within seconds after switching to the 2 meter band.
> 2) The receive voltage is 14.3 VDC, and about 1.49-1.51 Amps.
> 3) The power cord is a custom-made 8AWG, twisted-pair cable directly 
> lugged to an Astron VS-50M and plugged directly into the K3s.? Cable 
> is less than 2 feet long.
> 4) It has been working like this for years.? SubRX install went 
> without a hitch.
> 5) Radio is FULLY calibrated...
>
> I have checked every single TMP cable, plug, et al on the interior and 
> exterior...? Checked cables for pinching.? Checked everything I can 
> think of at least a dozen times.
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 01/12/20 08:59, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Clay,
>>
>> Have you measured the voltage displayed by the K3S during transmit?? 
>> A low voltage is a common cause for Hi Curr.
>> Reduce the voltage drop in the power cord by running directly from 
>> the power supply (no DC distribution boxes) and make certain all 
>> connections are tight.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 1/12/2020 6:11 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> OK... so NONE of that worked...? So, I reinstalled everything and 
>>> checked it 3 times...
>>>
>>> Here is something....
>>>
>>> What should the voltage be on Pin #1 of P95 (XV12DC) be with respect 
>>> to chassis?
>>>
>>> I am reading 13.75 VDC
>>>
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From gt-i at gmx.net  Tue Jan 14 18:10:37 2020
From: gt-i at gmx.net (gt-i at gmx.net)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:10:37 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing
 K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option
In-Reply-To: <3c521478-3f68-610c-6e50-847c0455d1ab@gmx.net>
References: <73e82c18-3cae-8a8c-2658-542d73489dbd@montac.com>
	<15E90C36DA65299D.15008@groups.io>
	<1529f955-92df-1427-12ab-821c14b6516a@montac.com>
	<f85376de-85f5-7bac-25a1-ef40060ddf52@embarqmail.com>
	<af64a036-494e-8525-1357-aaed907ed0be@montac.com>
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Just to add: My K3 draws 1.34A on 2m receive.

Am 15.01.2020 um 00:06 schrieb gt-i at gmx.net:
> Clay,
> If you get this message, your GND connection may not be ok. I too had 
> this problem when installing the transverter on my "old" K3. Remember 
> the +12V will be delivered by a single wire, the GND comes from the 
> side plate of the K3 which *must* be sanded, which was not the case on 
> mine.
> Also, check that the XV's housing is not sitting on any other parts 
> further down.
> hth
> 73 Gernot DF5RF
>
>
> Am 12.01.2020 um 18:33 schrieb Clay Autery:
>> 1)? I can never GET to transmit on 2 meters. It goes into "HI CUR" 
>> within seconds after switching to the 2 meter band.
>> 2) The receive voltage is 14.3 VDC, and about 1.49-1.51 Amps.
>> 3) The power cord is a custom-made 8AWG, twisted-pair cable directly 
>> lugged to an Astron VS-50M and plugged directly into the K3s.? Cable 
>> is less than 2 feet long.
>> 4) It has been working like this for years.? SubRX install went 
>> without a hitch.
>> 5) Radio is FULLY calibrated...
>>
>> I have checked every single TMP cable, plug, et al on the interior 
>> and exterior...? Checked cables for pinching.? Checked everything I 
>> can think of at least a dozen times.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 01/12/20 08:59, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Clay,
>>>
>>> Have you measured the voltage displayed by the K3S during transmit?? 
>>> A low voltage is a common cause for Hi Curr.
>>> Reduce the voltage drop in the power cord by running directly from 
>>> the power supply (no DC distribution boxes) and make certain all 
>>> connections are tight.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 1/12/2020 6:11 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>> OK... so NONE of that worked...? So, I reinstalled everything and 
>>>> checked it 3 times...
>>>>
>>>> Here is something....
>>>>
>>>> What should the voltage be on Pin #1 of P95 (XV12DC) be with 
>>>> respect to chassis?
>>>>
>>>> I am reading 13.75 VDC
>>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 14 18:18:20 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:18:20 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problems
In-Reply-To: <3CF41724-B2BF-4D29-B19B-05EAC10748A8@cfl.rr.com>
References: <0F62D099-7F64-4A3E-886F-878D1718364F@cfl.rr.com>
	<b86f7c81-878e-8771-28b1-e924a8bbd4eb@embarqmail.com>
	<3CF41724-B2BF-4D29-B19B-05EAC10748A8@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4520924e-0f10-b184-bb2f-7e421800b7b7@embarqmail.com>

Chuck,

L34 must have been far out to do that.  It is connected right where the 
IF OUT signal is fed to the AGC, so it must have formed a resonance with 
C179 which increased the input to the AGC and desensed the receiver.

Did you use Spectrogram to adjust L34?  It is easily done in CW mode - 
you tune to the "birdie' at 7000kHz.  Then simply adjust for the peak 
that is also consistent with minimum 'grass' outside the filter passband.

The slug should end up no more than 1 or 2 turns from the top.
You can do it 'like the manual says', but it is easier to see visually.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/14/2020 5:22 PM, myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com wrote:
> Don,
> 
> I downloaded the software, and found I could get my SSB OPT1 filter looking great until I turned on the AGC in USB!
> 
> Well I did solve it. It was a poorly aligned L34 causing the problem. I had read on this list that L34 was very broad and did not do much. Not at all true!
> 
> Now turning AGC off and on does what you would expect. I am going to work though with the new software to better tweak things!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Chuck K8LBH
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Your guess that the BFO is positioned inside the filter passbaad is likely correct.
>>
>> Do you have the SSB FL1 filter set to OP1?  If not, try that first. Many times the filter on the RF Board (used for more narrow filter settings) becomes VERY wide - much wider than indicated by the K2.  It depends on the exact characteristics of the varactors.
>>
>> If you are using the SSB OP1 filter, then check the capacitors around the KSB2 filter crystals for proper values.  An improper capacitor will distort the passband shape and can make the passband quite wide.
>>
>> The best way and more certain way to analyze the problem is to look at the K2 audio with an audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram running on your computer and band noise fed into the K2 antenna (no signals, just noise)
>>
>> You can download Spectrogram from my website www.w3fpr.com (scroll to near the bottom of the home page to find the local links).  If you do not use Windows, there are audio spectrum analyzers for other operating systems.
>> Instructions for setting up Spectrogram 5.17 and using it to align the filters can be found on Tom Hammond N0SS (SK) website preserved at http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_filters_using_gram_v5r17.pdf.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 1/14/2020 1:22 PM, myflyertrains at cfl.rr.com wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I have been working on a new K2 the last couple of months. SN 7927
>>> Yesterday I finished and installed the KSB2 SSB adapter.
>>> I have been mostly listening. All seemed normal with receive on 80 and 40 meters, on LSB.
>>> But, as soon as I go to USB on any band below 21 mhz, or LSB 21 and above, the S meter goes to nearly full scale, and the receiver is desensitized. If I turn off the AGC, the receiver seems to work normally receiving both LSB and USB.
>>> I have checked the BFO values and used the default value of 4916.3 for USB and 4913.5 for LSB.
>>> No setting of the USB BFO seems to solve the issue. I can change the value and drop the S meter with AGC on and hear the Receiver apparently return to normal, but then I can?t tune USB and the number I am using then is close to the LSB value.
>>> Why the receiver works normally with AGC off, but not with AGC on on OP1 filter is puzzling to me. Everything is normal on the K2?s internal filters.
>>> I assume this has something to do with the crystal filter and BFO frequencies, but no idea where to go.
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>> 73 Chuck K8LBH
> 
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From thegoeckel at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 18:29:27 2020
From: thegoeckel at gmail.com (KD8ZYD - Fred)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:29:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
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Message-ID: <1579044567042-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I just got one from Santa...serial number 7923.  I'm loving building it.  It
will take sometime to build since I'm so busy during the week.  But once its
built, I'm going to start getting all the add-ons, the 100 Watt
amp...antenna tuner...SSB...and the rest!  What a joy!  There is not another
kit like this on the market that I'm aware of!!  Let me tell you the support
I'm getting from Elecraft when questions pop up (Thanks Dave) and 2nd to
none!  What an amazing company!!



--
Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/

From ardrhi at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 18:46:10 2020
From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:46:10 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <1579044567042-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
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I'm looking over on a rack at our K2, serial #1641. My partner Maggie K3XS
and I built it many many moons ago. It's still kickin' to this day, though
the battery pack bit the big one a few years ago. But it works just fine
from a Talentcell battery pack I got from Amazon, it just has to be kept
outside the case, as it has a power switch and LEDs, and will drain if left
on where it can't be reached. It's no big deal, the Talentcell pack weighs
almost nothing. It was a fun build, though I dreamed about winding toroids
for a week afterward, hi hi.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MF70BPU

73,
Gwen, NG3P



On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 6:29 PM KD8ZYD - Fred <thegoeckel at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got one from Santa...serial number 7923.  I'm loving building it.
> It
> will take sometime to build since I'm so busy during the week.  But once
> its
> built, I'm going to start getting all the add-ons, the 100 Watt
> amp...antenna tuner...SSB...and the rest!  What a joy!  There is not
> another
> kit like this on the market that I'm aware of!!  Let me tell you the
> support
> I'm getting from Elecraft when questions pop up (Thanks Dave) and 2nd to
> none!  What an amazing company!!
>
>
>
> --
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From macymonkeys at charter.net  Tue Jan 14 19:19:59 2020
From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:19:59 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <CA+nQa2OxcoHt=f5NfVQj31667vHfSop1PtFjfQscAaifXkbL3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
	<E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
	<1579044567042-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<CA+nQa2OxcoHt=f5NfVQj31667vHfSop1PtFjfQscAaifXkbL3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD023DB9-F4B2-457D-A403-E86C7A1DCC82@charter.net>

Yep, I use the 6000 mAh battery on my K2 and the 3500 mAh on my K1 (s/n 52). Both batteries work great!

John K7FD

> On Jan 14, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm looking over on a rack at our K2, serial #1641. My partner Maggie K3XS
> and I built it many many moons ago. It's still kickin' to this day, though
> the battery pack bit the big one a few years ago. But it works just fine
> from a Talentcell battery pack I got from Amazon, it just has to be kept
> outside the case, as it has a power switch and LEDs, and will drain if left
> on where it can't be reached. It's no big deal, the Talentcell pack weighs
> almost nothing. It was a fun build, though I dreamed about winding toroids
> for a week afterward, hi hi.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MF70BPU
> 
> 73,
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 6:29 PM KD8ZYD - Fred <thegoeckel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I just got one from Santa...serial number 7923.  I'm loving building it.
>> It
>> will take sometime to build since I'm so busy during the week.  But once
>> its
>> built, I'm going to start getting all the add-ons, the 100 Watt
>> amp...antenna tuner...SSB...and the rest!  What a joy!  There is not
>> another
>> kit like this on the market that I'm aware of!!  Let me tell you the
>> support
>> I'm getting from Elecraft when questions pop up (Thanks Dave) and 2nd to
>> none!  What an amazing company!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
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From rv6amark at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 14 19:55:46 2020
From: rv6amark at yahoo.com (Mark)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:55:46 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
Message-ID: <mailman.458.1579049761.13233.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Re: "You do the drive north to southso you can easily pull over for every OMG view turnout without needing to turn left."100% correct...and you won't need left turns to get back on Highway 1 southbound.? Much safer.Mark,KE6BB
-------- Original message --------From: Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com> Date: 1/14/20  10:55 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Paul Gacek <w6png at yahoo.com> Cc: Elecraft Mailer <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile? hi Paul - I'm sorry I completely disagree. You do the drive north to southso you can easily pull over for every OMG view turnout without needing toturn left. :) 73 jeff wk6iOn Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 5:03 AM Paul Gacek via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:>> As to driving highway 1. My sense is its ?easier?/more pleasant to do it> going south to north as you aren?t constantly worrying about the shear drop> to your immediate right.>> -->Jeff Stai ~ WK6I ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.comRTTY op at W7RNTwisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to rv6amark at yahoo.com 

From ardrhi at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 20:48:23 2020
From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:48:23 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <DD023DB9-F4B2-457D-A403-E86C7A1DCC82@charter.net>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
	<E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
	<1579044567042-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<CA+nQa2OxcoHt=f5NfVQj31667vHfSop1PtFjfQscAaifXkbL3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<DD023DB9-F4B2-457D-A403-E86C7A1DCC82@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CA+nQa2OYzHUX2e1+gsKdnzine5N=7G2G9ypa57NRtY4O6Q8r8A@mail.gmail.com>

John, I definitely agree. I also have their 8300mAh pack, and it has enough
amperage to power the KX3 *and* the PX3. And has a 9v and a 5v USB socket
on it, too. There's a bigger one, but I'd rather step up to a LiFePO4
battery, a much bigger one, that I can put in a battery box with a
PowerPole distribution box on it. I already have the parts, except for the
battery. I may be looking into getting one, and a charger, from Bioenno
someday. I'm interested in something like that because I have the QRP-Labs
50w QCX amp for 40m, and it takes a bit more "oomph". And it'd power the
Elecraft for far longer, too, which can't be bad!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01337QXMA

Gwen, NG3P

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:20 PM Macy monkeys <macymonkeys at charter.net>
wrote:

> Yep, I use the 6000 mAh battery on my K2 and the 3500 mAh on my K1 (s/n
> 52). Both batteries work great!
>
> John K7FD
>
> > On Jan 14, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking over on a rack at our K2, serial #1641. My partner Maggie
> K3XS
> > and I built it many many moons ago. It's still kickin' to this day,
> though
> > the battery pack bit the big one a few years ago. But it works just fine
> > from a Talentcell battery pack I got from Amazon, it just has to be kept
> > outside the case, as it has a power switch and LEDs, and will drain if
> left
> > on where it can't be reached. It's no big deal, the Talentcell pack
> weighs
> > almost nothing. It was a fun build, though I dreamed about winding
> toroids
> > for a week afterward, hi hi.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MF70BPU
> >
> > 73,
> > Gwen, NG3P
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 6:29 PM KD8ZYD - Fred <thegoeckel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just got one from Santa...serial number 7923.  I'm loving building it.
> >> It
> >> will take sometime to build since I'm so busy during the week.  But once
> >> its
> >> built, I'm going to start getting all the add-ons, the 100 Watt
> >> amp...antenna tuner...SSB...and the rest!  What a joy!  There is not
> >> another
> >> kit like this on the market that I'm aware of!!  Let me tell you the
> >> support
> >> I'm getting from Elecraft when questions pop up (Thanks Dave) and 2nd to
> >> none!  What an amazing company!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >> Elecraft mailing list
> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Jan 14 20:49:33 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:49:33 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
Message-ID: <36FF9A20-6880-4690-B018-135678381B90@elecraft.com>

Hi all,

We've been making contacts with our K4s as often as possible, often in conjunction with checkout of new software. But the Elecraft CW an SSB nets are another great resource that we've been overlooking. We'll be getting on these nets frequently in the future.

Also note that we're going to start releasing K4 operational screen shots as part of a newsletter series that begins soon. The intent is both to inform potential users about how things work and to solicit additional feedback.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 21:27:06 2020
From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:27:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
In-Reply-To: <36FF9A20-6880-4690-B018-135678381B90@elecraft.com>
References: <36FF9A20-6880-4690-B018-135678381B90@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPKcUndDYSvJvRPCacytyEwSaconNzdBa4=TMqS80wD7n980A@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Wayne
Looking for it to arrive (along with 1000's of others)

Paul - KB9AVO/KP2
chasing from the beach on St Thomas
KX3 #24, KXPA #22 on A123 batteries

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:51 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We've been making contacts with our K4s as often as possible, often in
> conjunction with checkout of new software. But the Elecraft CW an SSB nets
> are another great resource that we've been overlooking. We'll be getting on
> these nets frequently in the future.
>
> Also note that we're going to start releasing K4 operational screen shots
> as part of a newsletter series that begins soon. The intent is both to
> inform potential users about how things work and to solicit additional
> feedback.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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From K1ND at Comcast.net  Wed Jan 15 07:36:04 2020
From: K1ND at Comcast.net (Jan)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 07:36:04 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today +
Message-ID: <f77128d1-24f8-42c5-bbf7-935b6a93a7cb@Comcast.net>

My K2 # 136 ~ a birthday present @ Hamvention in 1999 ~ was partially 
assembled that Spring; interrupted by a tenting vacation from Michigan 
to Seattle, and finished in the Fall.? Over the years I have enjoyed its 
operation and brought it to clubs and hamfests for "show & tell"

In 2010 I decided to add some modifications and was surprised how easy 
it was to take apart and do the changes.? These days is serves me 
faithfully as a bed-side station ~ even worked the Europeans on 3799 SSB 
at 10W to a dipole in the trees on our city lot; most recently last 
month . . . . after a nature call @ 08:00 UTC . . . ;-)

Regards, Jan K1ND? ~ amateur radio is my avocation, since 1954 ~



From ralry at chartertn.net  Wed Jan 15 09:13:33 2020
From: ralry at chartertn.net (Ralph Young)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:13:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?
In-Reply-To: <ec4cda35-b54e-16af-5e5f-3b272b1726ef@montac.com>
References: <963417C0-F0A7-43E0-852F-E596506CD255@comcast.net>
	<ec4cda35-b54e-16af-5e5f-3b272b1726ef@montac.com>
Message-ID: <018701d5cbad$f8f31a80$ead94f80$@chartertn.net>

I'll probably not get to ever visit, but if possible - I'd do it.   I visited TenTec in the early seventies with my dad just after I got my novice  ticket.  The owner (Al Kahn - formerly of Electrovoice) gave us a personal tour.   We were treated like visiting dignitaries.   They were making the PowerMite QRP rig, Keyers and some other things.   I found a KR-40 keyer under the Christmas tree a bit later.

Ralph  N4TG

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:13 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Visit to Elecraft HQ worthwhile?

I've never been to Watsonville...  BUT, I'd give my eye teeth to visit Elecraft HQ....  IF I was going to be within 200 miles or so, I would attempt to coordinate a visit. I have no idea what the company policies are RE: customer drop-ins/visits.

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/14/20 01:00, Terry Brown wrote:
> I apologize in advance for the length of this post.
>
> I had been an SSB operator exclusively since I became a ham in 1982. I went QRT for 7 years, because SSB grew stale for me. A little over 3 years ago I decided to dust off my incredibly rusty/nonexistent CW skills and bought a preowned K2.  I had never heard of Elecraft before I reconnected with my CW friends who all had Elecraft rigs.
>
> Now I own a KX2 for portable use, KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 for my base station.  At 72 years old I decided to treat myself to  my first world-class rig by becoming a member of the first shipment group for the K4.
>
> The reason I give this background is because my 4 year journey to become a dedicated cw rag chewer, comfortable at 20-30 wpm came about in part  because of my love of operating my Elecraft rigs.   My renewed love of ham radio and CW is intertwined with Elecraft and with what Wayne and Eric have created.
>
> I will be driving from OR to So. Cal. in March on Hwy. 1.   I see it runs within a stone?s throw of Elecraft?s HQ in Watsonville.
>
> For those of you who have been there before, is it a worthwhile stop?   I don?t expect to see Eric or Wayne there if I stop, but at a minimum I would like to thank their fine staff for creating what has become an integral part of renewing my love of our great hobby.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, N7TB
>
>
>
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From charles at sellsfamily.net  Wed Jan 15 09:52:32 2020
From: charles at sellsfamily.net (Charles Sells)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:52:32 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Audio Scope
Message-ID: <E5AEE82B-FE97-442B-B6C0-A24EC86115C7@sellsfamily.net>

Does anyone know if the K4 will have an audio scope capabilities?

73 de Charles
W4PPP

From dave at w8fgu.com  Wed Jan 15 11:05:32 2020
From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:05:32 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Fixed Audio Output Boards
Message-ID: <emce0ce31d-186a-4193-9e4d-61413ed4ac8a@w8fgu-desktop>

Folks, I'm down to my last couple of K2 Fixed Audio Output Boards in 
stock: https://www.w8fgu.com/k2_fixedaudio.html

If there is still considerable interest in obtaining one, I would need 
to order more parts to make up another batch. So, I'm reaching out here 
to see if there is enough interest for me to invest in more stock. 
Please email me off list if you would be interested in purchasing one of 
these kits.

To keep the noise down on the list, please email me privately.

73,
Dave, W8FGU


From pincon at erols.com  Tue Jan 14 23:29:37 2020
From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:29:37 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
In-Reply-To: <CAEPKcUndDYSvJvRPCacytyEwSaconNzdBa4=TMqS80wD7n980A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <36FF9A20-6880-4690-B018-135678381B90@elecraft.com>
	<CAEPKcUndDYSvJvRPCacytyEwSaconNzdBa4=TMqS80wD7n980A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ea01d5cb5c$693a5d00$3baf1700$@erols.com>

I'm guessing there's no new info on the K4 kit version yet.

73, Charlie k3ICH




-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Paul Van Dyke
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:27 PM
To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.

Thank you Wayne
Looking for it to arrive (along with 1000's of others)

Paul - KB9AVO/KP2
chasing from the beach on St Thomas
KX3 #24, KXPA #22 on A123 batteries

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:51 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We've been making contacts with our K4s as often as possible, often in 
> conjunction with checkout of new software. But the Elecraft CW an SSB 
> nets are another great resource that we've been overlooking. We'll be 
> getting on these nets frequently in the future.
>
> Also note that we're going to start releasing K4 operational screen 
> shots as part of a newsletter series that begins soon. The intent is 
> both to inform potential users about how things work and to solicit 
> additional feedback.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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From radiok4ia at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 13:09:47 2020
From: radiok4ia at gmail.com (Buck)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:09:47 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
In-Reply-To: <00ea01d5cb5c$693a5d00$3baf1700$@erols.com>
References: <36FF9A20-6880-4690-B018-135678381B90@elecraft.com>
	<CAEPKcUndDYSvJvRPCacytyEwSaconNzdBa4=TMqS80wD7n980A@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ea01d5cb5c$693a5d00$3baf1700$@erols.com>
Message-ID: <8633a253-d3e6-9d96-b0f0-e0f07cd25156@Gmail.com>

The word was the kits would be about 6 months after the first release. 
This allows them to get experience assembling at the factory and allows 
time for writing the assembly manuals.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 1/14/2020 11:29 PM, Charlie T wrote:
> I'm guessing there's no new info on the K4 kit version yet.
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Paul Van Dyke
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:27 PM
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
> 
> Thank you Wayne
> Looking for it to arrive (along with 1000's of others)
> 
> Paul - KB9AVO/KP2
> chasing from the beach on St Thomas
> KX3 #24, KXPA #22 on A123 batteries
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:51 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We've been making contacts with our K4s as often as possible, often in
>> conjunction with checkout of new software. But the Elecraft CW an SSB
>> nets are another great resource that we've been overlooking. We'll be
>> getting on these nets frequently in the future.
>>
>> Also note that we're going to start releasing K4 operational screen
>> shots as part of a newsletter series that begins soon. The intent is
>> both to inform potential users about how things work and to solicit
>> additional feedback.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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From wshanney at verizon.net  Wed Jan 15 13:35:42 2020
From: wshanney at verizon.net (William Shanney)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:35:42 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: KPA500 for sale
References: <22ed07f9-d419-37ac-0a09-5566eb37d3c4.ref@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <22ed07f9-d419-37ac-0a09-5566eb37d3c4@verizon.net>

I'm selling my KPA500 to fund other ventures. It was purchased in 2014 
factory assembled. I use it at 400W for occasional rag chewing and am 
not a contest operator. It works great. Asking $1700 shipped

Bill, W6QR


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Jan 15 13:43:05 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:43:05 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Audio Scope
In-Reply-To: <E5AEE82B-FE97-442B-B6C0-A24EC86115C7@sellsfamily.net>
References: <E5AEE82B-FE97-442B-B6C0-A24EC86115C7@sellsfamily.net>
Message-ID: <7D245B10-57FA-4403-B5B6-3F3296C1F8FB@elecraft.com>

That is in the plan.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 15, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Charles Sells <charles at sellsfamily.net> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if the K4 will have an audio scope capabilities?
> 
> 73 de Charles
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From lee.buller at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 15:11:53 2020
From: lee.buller at gmail.com (Leroy Buller)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:11:53 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Information
Message-ID: <CANys+BWSuZ0PHr7NGXS1R0xZqD9s4ravScUTnsa_W76BToGq0Q@mail.gmail.com>

As this old dog is learning about SDR, Remote Control and such I have a
simple question about "remote control of the K4."

I understand the K4 has a Linux computer in it that acts like a "server"
while controlling other aspects of the radio.  Now, in my experience, when
you had a server you need client software....EXCEPT...if it is a web server
or an HTML server.  Soooooo........

Does one connect to the K4 through a web server using Chrome, Firefox, or
Edge(?) to the rig or is there special software for the client?

Yea, I know...dumb questions.  But I am seeking clarity.

Lee - K0WA

From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Wed Jan 15 15:58:17 2020
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:58:17 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
In-Reply-To: <8633a253-d3e6-9d96-b0f0-e0f07cd25156@Gmail.com>
References: <36FF9A20-6880-4690-B018-135678381B90@elecraft.com>
	<CAEPKcUndDYSvJvRPCacytyEwSaconNzdBa4=TMqS80wD7n980A@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ea01d5cb5c$693a5d00$3baf1700$@erols.com>,
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Message-ID: <99581418-F9DB-4B5D-806A-D03362136CFB@illinois.edu>

I was thinking I have two K3?s one?s an S...but if there?s a kit, I?m in for that.

Chuck Jack Hawley 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Buck <radiok4ia at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The word was the kits would be about 6 months after the first release. This allows them to get experience assembling at the factory and allows time for writing the assembly manuals.
> 
> Buck, k4ia
> Honor Roll
> 8BDXCC
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> 
>> On 1/14/2020 11:29 PM, Charlie T wrote:
>> I'm guessing there's no new info on the K4 kit version yet.
>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
>> Behalf Of Paul Van Dyke
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:27 PM
>> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
>> Thank you Wayne
>> Looking for it to arrive (along with 1000's of others)
>> Paul - KB9AVO/KP2
>> chasing from the beach on St Thomas
>> KX3 #24, KXPA #22 on A123 batteries
>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:51 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We've been making contacts with our K4s as often as possible, often in
>>> conjunction with checkout of new software. But the Elecraft CW an SSB
>>> nets are another great resource that we've been overlooking. We'll be
>>> getting on these nets frequently in the future.
>>> 
>>> Also note that we're going to start releasing K4 operational screen
>>> shots as part of a newsletter series that begins soon. The intent is
>>> both to inform potential users about how things work and to solicit
>>> additional feedback.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
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From wlbaber at bellsouth.net  Wed Jan 15 18:59:16 2020
From: wlbaber at bellsouth.net (WILLIE BABER)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:59:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
References: <1311721046.14112068.1579132756665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1311721046.14112068.1579132756665@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hello All,

I operated in the Classic Exchange event, and on Tuesday evening on 80 meters I was surprised by a call from Wayne, n6kr. Wayne was using the K4 (I think he was working, hi). Interestingly, I was using a Sierra qrp transceiver that I built and that Wayne designed many years ago now. Wayne pointed out that he designed the Sierra, but I already knew that as I have, like many others, followed Elecraft starting with the Sierra kit (before Elecraft), and then the k2 kit, the kx1 kit, and finally k3 (that eventually replaced MP, Orion, and Omni VI in multi-two or so2r). 

Thanks for the qso, Wayne.
73, Will, wj9b, dit dit

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     On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 10:12:49 AM PST, Buck <radiok4ia at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 The word was the kits would be about 6 months after the first release. 
This allows them to get experience assembling at the factory and allows 
time for writing the assembly manuals.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 1/14/2020 11:29 PM, Charlie T wrote:
> I'm guessing there's no new info on the K4 kit version yet.
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Paul Van Dyke
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:27 PM
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
> 
> Thank you Wayne
> Looking for it to arrive (along with 1000's of others)
> 
> Paul - KB9AVO/KP2
> chasing from the beach on St Thomas
> KX3 #24, KXPA #22 on A123 batteries
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:51 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We've been making contacts with our K4s as often as possible, often in
>> conjunction with checkout of new software. But the Elecraft CW an SSB
>> nets are another great resource that we've been overlooking. We'll be
>> getting on these nets frequently in the future.
>>
>> Also note that we're going to start releasing K4 operational screen
>> shots as part of a newsletter series that begins soon. The intent is
>> both to inform potential users about how things work and to solicit
>> additional feedback.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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From mooneer at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 19:10:50 2020
From: mooneer at gmail.com (Mooneer Salem)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:10:50 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 temperature compensation experience
Message-ID: <CAAzDfxOw_u-A_kDcdtw9kfWop0yeZo05KKeHNt0CC5K5r_9aZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I recently redid temperature compensation on my KX3 using a GPSDO that I
purchased to see what kind of results I could get. (I last did it a while
ago with the XG50 and didn't have any complaints about operation afterward,
but I also pretty much only used 20 meters and below.) Below is what I did
and what I observed.

*Device info:*

KX3 purchased February 2013 (revision D RF board, S/N in the 3000 range), 2
meter, battery charger and roofing filter options installed
VE7FMN heatsink installed

*Steps performed:*

1. Warmed up GPSDO (~24h beforehand).
2. Warmed up KX3 until OSC temperature stopped climbing (~1h to reach 34C).
3. Performed reference calibration at 50.000MHz (5th harmonic of 10MHz
square wave output) using the automatic method.
4. Placed KX3 in fridge for ~1-1.5 hours and set up heating equipment (100W
incandescent bulb and makeshift box using baking sheets to keep heat in).
5. Removed KX3, turned it on and began data collection/storage. I also
started logging using KX3 Utility. (OSC was ~14C at this point.)
6. After ~70min or so, stopped data collection at 52C and turned off bulb.
7. Reset reference calibration after allowing cooldown.
8. Started fldigi in analysis mode and recorded frequency data for ~15
minutes.

*Discussion:*

See attached. In short, frequency differences vs. temperature seem to be
linear up until close to the end of calibration, where the frequency starts
to go back up. The data collected from fldigi also seems to indicate an
average frequency shift of 0.04ppm at 10MHz, which IMO is perfectly
acceptable. (For reference, the specs for the Yaesu FT-817's TCXO claim
0.5ppm.)

That said, I did notice--as with others in previous posts to the various
Elecraft/KX3 lists--that the signal is significantly shifted on 6 meters
when performing the second reference calibration based on a HF signal (and
vice versa). However, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference
regardless of where one calibrates on HF. For me, since I don't do much
operating on 6 meters, I kept the 10MHz based reference calibration. It
would be nice if one could set a separate reference frequency for 6m/2m vs.
HF so that the radio can be right on frequency regardless of where it's
being used.

Also, I haven't tried transmitting with the new calibration yet, but given
that I didn't have any problems with the digital modes I commonly use in
the past, I don't expect any issues now. I did find
http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/KX3HeatSinks.htm before doing this, which
(a) indicated that there's a newer version of the RF board and (b) required
board modifications to get the oscillator to be stable enough for all but
JT65A on 6 meters. I'm not planning on modding my own KX3 in this manner,
but out of curiosity, is there a RF board newer than revision D (as
indicated in the schematics document on Elecraft's site)?

Anyway, let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything with
the methodology I could have done better. Offhand, calculating and setting
ppm offsets in fldigi might improve the frequency analysis a little bit,
though I don't know if it'd be by enough to matter much. Not to mention
doing a temperature compensation with the XG50 again to see how much a
GPSDO truly adds.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Jan 15 19:45:37 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:45:37 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 on-air testing, etc.
In-Reply-To: <1311721046.14112068.1579132756665@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1311721046.14112068.1579132756665.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1311721046.14112068.1579132756665@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C3062DA-1851-4E4E-B523-02F855F53735@elecraft.com>

Nice to hear a Sierra on the air, Willie. Eric (WA6HHQ) also contributed to that design. That was the first time we collaborated.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 15, 2020, at 3:59 PM, WILLIE BABER <wlbaber at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I operated in the Classic Exchange event, and on Tuesday evening on 80 meters I was surprised by a call from Wayne, n6kr. Wayne was using the K4 (I think he was working, hi). Interestingly, I was using a Sierra qrp transceiver that I built and that Wayne designed many years ago now. Wayne pointed out that he designed the Sierra, but I already knew that as I have, like many others, followed Elecraft starting with the Sierra kit (before Elecraft), and then the k2 kit, the kx1 kit, and finally k3 (that eventually replaced MP, Orion, and Omni VI in multi-two or so2r). 
> 
> Thanks for the qso, Wayne.
> 73, Will, wj9b, dit dit





From anegadasail at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 15 20:01:51 2020
From: anegadasail at yahoo.com (mark roz)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 01:01:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>

Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
Very disappointing.

From va3mw at portcredit.net  Wed Jan 15 20:09:26 2020
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:09:26 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E3413715-311B-4668-A36D-EBA9F28B621D@portcredit.net>

All in good time

The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later. 

Mike va3mw 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.
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From cyaffey at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 20:20:52 2020
From: cyaffey at gmail.com (Carl Yaffey)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:20:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <E3413715-311B-4668-A36D-EBA9F28B621D@portcredit.net>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
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I, too, am disappointed. No one will die? Well, I?m 78, sir. I hope I have a few more years . . . . 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net> wrote:
> 
> All in good time
> 
> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later. 
> 
> Mike va3mw 
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From lladerman at earthlink.net  Wed Jan 15 20:22:45 2020
From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:22:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch
date was inevitable. it?s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what
begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 

Lou, W0FK 



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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 20:26:32 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:26:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <AAB69122-9FDB-42B0-A569-A14B8CB0FF52@gmail.com>

Where did this come from?

There was some discussion of the additional time for the kit version to ship, but I haven?t seen anything official on May for first K4 ship????

Sounds like someone got their neurons and rumors crossed (?)

Grant NQ5T

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:22 PM, W0FK <lladerman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Elecraft mailing list wrote
>> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>> Very disappointing.
> 
> Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch
> date was inevitable. it?s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what
> begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 
> 
> Lou, W0FK 
> 
> 
> 
> -----


From n6jpa.1 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 20:41:31 2020
From: n6jpa.1 at gmail.com (Keith N6JPA)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:41:31 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <E3413715-311B-4668-A36D-EBA9F28B621D@portcredit.net>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
	<E3413715-311B-4668-A36D-EBA9F28B621D@portcredit.net>
Message-ID: <e67bce45-4b6d-b483-bb39-1f2bbcf370b1@gmail.com>

Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack 
with all of the models. Think positive :-)


On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
> All in good time
>
> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>
> Mike va3mw
>
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>> Very disappointing.
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From ted.roycraft at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 20:52:12 2020
From: ted.roycraft at gmail.com (Ted Roycraft)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
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Where did this May rumor come from?  Yes, the kit version is supposed to
come out months later but the Elecraft web site still says that the first
shipments of the K4 are targeted for January 2020.

Ted, W2ZK

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Keith N6JPA <n6jpa.1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack
> with all of the models. Think positive :-)
>
>
> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
> > All in good time
> >
> > The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
> >
> > Mike va3mw
> >
> >> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <
> elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> >> Very disappointing.
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Jan 15 20:56:05 2020
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:56:05 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <AAB69122-9FDB-42B0-A569-A14B8CB0FF52@gmail.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<AAB69122-9FDB-42B0-A569-A14B8CB0FF52@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe0YDa7s=G988B3mu0icnBnNx3KsYFOxfQT=f1CSq735myYsw@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a link to the actual email we just sent to all people who have
ordered K4s.
https://mailchi.mp/6408031aa209/k4-shipping-update

*(Mailchimp is the same certified bulk email service that we use for the
regular Elecraft newsletter emails.)*
73,
Eric
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:27 PM Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Where did this come from?
>
> There was some discussion of the additional time for the kit version to
> ship, but I haven?t seen anything official on May for first K4 ship????
>
> Sounds like someone got their neurons and rumors crossed (?)
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> > On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:22 PM, W0FK <lladerman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Elecraft mailing list wrote
> >> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> >> Very disappointing.
> >
> > Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential
> launch
> > date was inevitable. it?s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing
> what
> > begins as a prototype is always difficult at best.
> >
> > Lou, W0FK
> >
> >
> >
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From stephen.tobe at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 21:34:49 2020
From: stephen.tobe at gmail.com (tobestep .)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:34:49 +0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K4, K4D and K4HD
Message-ID: <CAG41oeqSRiusuGYNe8VhgAOGpvtKENvcCyAspAtLpWf23Oc+Lw@mail.gmail.com>

I assume that the plain vanilla K4 will be the first out. How will this
affect the D and HD versions?
73
Steve VE3XO

From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 23:05:35 2020
From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 00:05:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K4, K4D and K4HD
In-Reply-To: <CAG41oeqSRiusuGYNe8VhgAOGpvtKENvcCyAspAtLpWf23Oc+Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG41oeqSRiusuGYNe8VhgAOGpvtKENvcCyAspAtLpWf23Oc+Lw@mail.gmail.com>
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UNLESS I missed something, the 1st batch of (full bore) K4HDs will be out
1st as they secured in Elecraft fashion.
Eric/Wayne have the real call...

Paul - KB9AVO

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:35 PM tobestep . <stephen.tobe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I assume that the plain vanilla K4 will be the first out. How will this
> affect the D and HD versions?
> 73
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Wed Jan 15 23:10:34 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4, K4D and K4HD
In-Reply-To: <CAEPKcUmk4zYU1N2=aSK0B_YqOSoowUA_yf5eaTN8SVo5er8=wA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG41oeqSRiusuGYNe8VhgAOGpvtKENvcCyAspAtLpWf23Oc+Lw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPKcUmk4zYU1N2=aSK0B_YqOSoowUA_yf5eaTN8SVo5er8=wA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24CB2B86-B5AB-4AAC-BFD7-6FC415190AC0@gmail.com>

Originally, the K4/K4D were to be delivered first, and the K4HD a few months later.

Maybe Elecraft will have more information on any changes in that in the next few days.

Grant NQ5T

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:05 PM, Paul Van Dyke <pvandyke1953 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> UNLESS I missed something, the 1st batch of (full bore) K4HDs will be out
> 1st as they secured in Elecraft fashion.
> Eric/Wayne have the real call...
> 
> Paul - KB9AVO
> 
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:35 PM tobestep . <stephen.tobe at gmail.com> wrote:
> 


From n7tb at comcast.net  Wed Jan 15 23:18:14 2020
From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:18:14 -1000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
Message-ID: <CEB06C1D-376E-41D9-ABFC-B19E1460EC0F@comcast.net>

I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When I read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.  

He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have been finished by subcontractors who don?t provide the quality we insist on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, ? I know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won?t mean anything.?

He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at how well it?s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the same way once it arrives at our homes.    Besides, it will be a better more refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.   

73,

Terry, N7TB

From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Jan 15 23:30:23 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:30:23 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4, K4D and K4HD
In-Reply-To: <CAG41oeqSRiusuGYNe8VhgAOGpvtKENvcCyAspAtLpWf23Oc+Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG41oeqSRiusuGYNe8VhgAOGpvtKENvcCyAspAtLpWf23Oc+Lw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <129EB6F0-ADCB-4051-BD98-45AF83846988@widomaker.com>

I was told that K4 and K4D radios are basically the same   The ?D? has a second LPF and ADC.  So no big deal. The ?HD? model is still in development and will be months later.  Buyers will receive ( and be billed) for K4D and then the waiting starts all over again for the ?H? hardware release. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:37 PM, tobestep . <stephen.tobe at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I assume that the plain vanilla K4 will be the first out. How will this
> affect the D and HD versions?
> 73
> Steve VE3XO
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Jan 15 23:32:24 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:32:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4, K4D and K4HD
In-Reply-To: <CAEPKcUmk4zYU1N2=aSK0B_YqOSoowUA_yf5eaTN8SVo5er8=wA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPKcUmk4zYU1N2=aSK0B_YqOSoowUA_yf5eaTN8SVo5er8=wA@mail.gmail.com>
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What?d you say?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Paul Van Dyke <pvandyke1953 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?UNLESS I missed something, the 1st batch of (full bore) K4HDs will be out
> 1st as they secured in Elecraft fashion.
> Eric/Wayne have the real call...
> 
> Paul - KB9AVO
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:35 PM tobestep . <stephen.tobe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I assume that the plain vanilla K4 will be the first out. How will this
>> affect the D and HD versions?
>> 73
>> Steve VE3XO
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From mike at ve3yf.com  Wed Jan 15 23:39:55 2020
From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 04:39:55 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cc5b85be-122b-4506-4267-8cf2ef2c4daa@ve3yf.com>

Well that was not something I was expecting.

Oh well stuff like that happens everyday. Some things are beyond 
Elecrafts control.

The way I see it, better to have a polished and proper rig, than one 
that just full of bugs and issues. Get it right the first time.


-- 

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

_/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*


From dwightanderson at roadrunner.com  Thu Jan 16 00:21:59 2020
From: dwightanderson at roadrunner.com (dwightanderson at roadrunner.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:21:59 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <923b0b24-b5ea-3508-32a8-9b6066dc64bc@coho.net>
References: <923b0b24-b5ea-3508-32a8-9b6066dc64bc@coho.net>
Message-ID: <005001d5cc2c$e1cf8a80$a56e9f80$@roadrunner.com>

Hello Kevin;

Thank you for the managing the Elecraft CW net!    I have been listening for the past several months but am not able to hear you.
I'm wondering if an Elecraft CW operator that has a good location and antenna might volunteer to be a CW relay station with you?
Similar to the Elecraft SSB net.

I think keeping it very simple for example just send their Call, WX, State to the relay station after Kevin completes his check-ins. 
Ie for me, after I hear  the Relay Station call, with QSP?  I would send the following:   QSP de WM5F  WX Snow ID  
The relay station would pass WM5F Snow ID on to Kevin.    Kevin would acknowledge with a simple QSL.
 
So is anyone interested to try it this Sunday?  Is there a better way to conduct a relay message for a net? 

Much Regards,
Dwight (WM5F)




-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of kevinr
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:13 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

Good Evening,

    The Elecraft CW Net is a directed net.  There is no need to call CQ to get my attention; my location allows me to hear very well.  Just wait for me to call for check-ins then send your call or a part of it as a hail sign.  This allows me to gather two to three stations and work them in order.  Once I have cleared my list I call for more check ins.  I repeat this until I get no response three times.  If you call CQ during the net I'm not sure what you intend.  Are you trying to get my attention while I am working other operators?  Or are you calling your own net?   If you wait for my call up sequence and respond when I send your call sign it is much easier to direct the net.


   On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

NO8V - John - MI

K6XK - Roy - IA

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K4JPN - Steve - GA

WS1L - Chuck - MS

KF0QS - Bernard - CO

WU0A - John - CO

KC1ACL - Steven - NM

J?5?EG - ??? - ???   The QRM was too heavy to copy this op even though we tried five times.

Good signal though at S5 or better.


   On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6XK - Roy - IA

W6JHB - Jim - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

W0CZ - Ken - ND


    Twenty meters was loud.  Jupiter was mentioned as a culprit. With all the clouds here I have a hard time keeping track of the moon let alone the planets.  The QSB was slow but Roy had a fast flutter on top of his signal.  The solar flux index has gone up from where it had been stuck for so many months.  From 69 a few months ago to 74 today.  A bit of solar wind is enough to support these bands for another week.  I know a good contest lights up the ionosphere too.

    Forty meters was less noisy with slow QSB.  Copy was very good. Most of the talk was about snow or rain.  A few rare folks actually have sunlight.  Here there is about two inches of sloppy snow.  The wind is rising too so I better put antenna work on my list.

   Until next week stay warm 73,

       Kevin.  KD5ONS


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From buddy at brannan.name  Thu Jan 16 02:28:08 2020
From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 02:28:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
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Disappointing? It?s not unusual. Same happened with the KX3?production/shipping delays?and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as well. I don?t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it?s one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything I?d hoped for it to be and then some. 


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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Mobile: (814) 431-0962



> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.
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From turnbull at net1.ie  Thu Jan 16 06:05:10 2020
From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:05:10 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <33ECA2D2-8112-4F7D-9356-56AC3E85B38C@brannan.name>
Message-ID: <5e204369.1c69fb81.97cd6.964c@mx.google.com>

Dear OMs and YLs, Better the extra time to do things right.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> Date: 16/01/2020  07:29  (GMT+00:00) To: mark roz <anegadasail at yahoo.com> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May Disappointing? It?s not unusual. Same happened with the KX3?production/shipping delays?and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as well. I don?t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it?s one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything I?d hoped for it to be and then some. Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PAEmail: buddy at brannan.nameMobile: (814) 431-0962> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:> > Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.> Very disappointing.> ______________________________________________________________> Elecraft mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name ______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie 

From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 07:19:08 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 07:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Update Suvbscription
Message-ID: <A5677F22-0624-4944-8C60-B52527F169C7@gmail.com>

For anyone concerned that they didn?t receive the K4 delivery/status update email, there is a ?subscribe? button on the document linked to from the K4 page.

We?ll see if that works for the next one  :-)


Grant NQ5T




From bill at wjschmidt.com  Thu Jan 16 08:28:23 2020
From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
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Whew!  Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA <n6jpa.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with all of the models. Think positive :-)
> 
> 
>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>> All in good time
>> 
>> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>> 
>> Mike va3mw
>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>> Very disappointing.
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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Thu Jan 16 09:36:02 2020
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:36:02 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR11MB4044F105570799B0393DC6E3FB360@DM6PR11MB4044.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

All this talk about the K4 is worth millions (well...maybe thousands) in advertising. It's really getting me ramped up for the K4 and I didn't even preorder one...
Keep it up!

Chuck Hawley
 c-hawley at illinois.edu

 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles

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Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch
date was inevitable. it?s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what
begins as a prototype is always difficult at best.

Lou, W0FK



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From wlbaber at bellsouth.net  Thu Jan 16 10:20:22 2020
From: wlbaber at bellsouth.net (WILLIE BABER)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:20:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
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 K7? Does that imply that Elecraft company makes it to heaven too, with some of us? Ok! But are there any 100 foot towers in heaven?

73, Will, wj9b, dit dit


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     On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 5:28:53 AM PST, Dr. William J. Schmidt <bill at wjschmidt.com> wrote:  
 
 Whew!? Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA <n6jpa.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with all of the models. Think positive :-)
> 
> 
>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>> All in good time
>> 
>> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>> 
>> Mike va3mw
>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>> Very disappointing.
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From wlbaber at bellsouth.net  Thu Jan 16 11:29:02 2020
From: wlbaber at bellsouth.net (WILLIE BABER)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 16:29:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
References: <659780197.14449860.1579192142216.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <659780197.14449860.1579192142216@mail.yahoo.com>

 I recall the K2 in particular. I received modifications from Elecraft before I finished building it. Because I was working so hard at the University, I put K2 is a box, partially assembled. However, I kept track of every Elecraft modification and put them in the box too. Then I purchased an assembled K3. It also went through a few changes (remember the replacement of those pins?) and well before the improved synthesizer. Still, I did not use exclusive so2r K3 until 2015 (but I should have done so sooner---I was still using Orion).

I didn't finish building K2 until 2016, four years after I retired! Elecraft still had a few parts that I needed. K2 works perfectly, but nothing else I have used slices up signals in a contest like K3 with the six-pole 200 hz crystal filter. 

So while the delay is unfortunate, I wouldn't worry about Elecraft's final product if history is any kind of measure that involves the future. Of course time is a real issue, as many of us are running short of it!

I am in my 70th year, and I was one of the younger ones in the hobby, hi.

73, Will, wj9b, dit dit

CWops #1085
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http://cwops.org/     On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 11:28:46 PM PST, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:  
 
 Disappointing? It?s not unusual. Same happened with the KX3?production/shipping delays?and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as well. I don?t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it?s one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything I?d hoped for it to be and then some. 


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.
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From ae6lx at worldwidedx.com  Thu Jan 16 13:12:24 2020
From: ae6lx at worldwidedx.com (Tim Tucker)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 10:12:24 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 I/O / XVTR boards for sale
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I have the KIO3B main / digital / audio boards and the original XVTR board
for sale.  Make an offer...


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From KY5G at montac.com  Thu Jan 16 13:13:12 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 12:13:12 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
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EVERY antenna is an IDEAL antenna and you don't need towers to hold them 
up.? You simply will it to sit where you want it to stay. <smile>

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On 01/16/20 09:20, WILLIE BABER wrote:
>   K7? Does that imply that Elecraft company makes it to heaven too, with some of us? Ok! But are there any 100 foot towers in heaven?
>
> 73, Will, wj9b, dit dit
>
>
> CWops #1085
> CWA Advisor levels II and III
> http://cwops.org/
>
>       On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 5:28:53 AM PST, Dr. William J. Schmidt <bill at wjschmidt.com> wrote:
>   
>   Whew!? Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...
>
>
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ
>
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA <n6jpa.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with all of the models. Think positive :-)
>>
>>
>>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>>> All in good time
>>>
>>> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>>>
>>> Mike va3mw
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>>> Very disappointing.
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From rlvz at aol.com  Thu Jan 16 14:08:41 2020
From: rlvz at aol.com (RVZ)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:08:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3- Wanted: KTCX03-1 High Stability Reference Oscillator
	for a K3
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If you have a KTCX03-1 High Stability Reference Oscillator that you would part with, please advise the price shipped to Edgewater, FL 32141.

Thanks & 73!Dick Van Zandt- K9OM

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Thu Jan 16 14:25:38 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:25:38 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
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"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

**Said to a Marine BG.? He chose Good & Cheap.? We declined to bid

On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When I read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
>
> He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have been finished by subcontractors who don?t provide the quality we insist on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, ? I know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won?t mean anything.?
>
> He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at how well it?s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the same way once it arrives at our homes.    Besides, it will be a better more refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, N7TB
>


From Lyn at LNAINC.com  Thu Jan 16 14:38:28 2020
From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:38:28 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
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And, just imagine the propagation!


73
Lyn, W?LEN



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EVERY antenna is an IDEAL antenna and you don't need towers to hold them 
up.  You simply will it to sit where you want it to stay. <smile>

______________________
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On 01/16/20 09:20, WILLIE BABER wrote:
>   K7? Does that imply that Elecraft company makes it to heaven too, with some of us? Ok! But are there any 100 foot towers in heaven?
>
> 73, Will, wj9b, dit dit
>
>
> CWops #1085
> CWA Advisor levels II and III
> http://cwops.org/
>
>       On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 5:28:53 AM PST, Dr. William J. Schmidt <bill at wjschmidt.com> wrote:
>   
>   Whew!  Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...
>
>
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ
>
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA <n6jpa.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with all of the models. Think positive :-)
>>
>>
>>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>>> All in good time
>>>
>>> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>>>
>>> Mike va3mw
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>> ?Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>>> Very disappointing.
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From rich at wc3t.us  Thu Jan 16 14:49:09 2020
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:49:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
In-Reply-To: <5a0109a9-8be0-0f15-1761-45bfcb6d3f0c@foothill.net>
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In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:

> "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
>
> On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When I
> read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
> K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when
> our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
> >
> > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
> been finished by subcontractors who don?t provide the quality we insist
> on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, ? I
> know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
> the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won?t mean
> anything.?
> >
> > He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
> how well it?s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay
> is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
> same way once it arrives at our homes.    Besides, it will be a better more
> refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Terry, N7TB
> >
>
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From ardrhi at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 15:19:03 2020
From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:19:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7Wg7kEUJYeoqGpDEyc0xD78ymyDoWvT6zNpqUYPd==78dg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<5a0109a9-8be0-0f15-1761-45bfcb6d3f0c@foothill.net>
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Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
So "bug-free" is impossible.

Gwen, NG3P

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:

> In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>
> > "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
> >
> > 73,
> > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> > Sparks NV DM09dn
> > Washoe County
> >
> > **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
> >
> > On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> > > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When
> I
> > read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
> > K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago
> when
> > our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
> > >
> > > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
> > been finished by subcontractors who don?t provide the quality we insist
> > on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said,
> ? I
> > know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
> > the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won?t mean
> > anything.?
> > >
> > > He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
> > how well it?s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the
> delay
> > is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
> > same way once it arrives at our homes.    Besides, it will be a better
> more
> > refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
> > >
> > > 73,
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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Thu Jan 16 16:08:13 2020
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:08:13 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
In-Reply-To: <CA+nQa2NCQ=GEvJ5TCRziDymGSxOjVpfVhYJSz+ebhtQNeu4z4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CEB06C1D-376E-41D9-ABFC-B19E1460EC0F@comcast.net>
	<5a0109a9-8be0-0f15-1761-45bfcb6d3f0c@foothill.net>
	<CABYU7Wg7kEUJYeoqGpDEyc0xD78ymyDoWvT6zNpqUYPd==78dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+nQa2NCQ=GEvJ5TCRziDymGSxOjVpfVhYJSz+ebhtQNeu4z4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B92C179A-8082-4683-B307-F907022EB20B@wunderwood.org>

One of the Python developers observed that when the test suite passes,
it doesn?t mean that Python is bug-free. It means that the test suite is
insufficient.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
> So "bug-free" is impossible.
> 
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
> 
>> In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>> **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
>>> 
>>> On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
>>>> I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When
>> I
>>> read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
>>> K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago
>> when
>>> our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
>>>> 
>>>> He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
>>> been finished by subcontractors who don?t provide the quality we insist
>>> on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said,
>> ? I
>>> know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
>>> the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won?t mean
>>> anything.?
>>>> 
>>>> He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
>>> how well it?s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the
>> delay
>>> is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
>>> same way once it arrives at our homes.    Besides, it will be a better
>> more
>>> refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Terry, N7TB
>>>> 
>>> 
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From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 17:15:26 2020
From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (stephen shearer)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:15:26 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
In-Reply-To: <CA+nQa2NCQ=GEvJ5TCRziDymGSxOjVpfVhYJSz+ebhtQNeu4z4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CEB06C1D-376E-41D9-ABFC-B19E1460EC0F@comcast.net>
	<5a0109a9-8be0-0f15-1761-45bfcb6d3f0c@foothill.net>
	<CABYU7Wg7kEUJYeoqGpDEyc0xD78ymyDoWvT6zNpqUYPd==78dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+nQa2NCQ=GEvJ5TCRziDymGSxOjVpfVhYJSz+ebhtQNeu4z4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7963dda9-e350-0fd1-f487-d0f0e3e9ee7f@gmail.com>

One of the software projects I worked on...? The lead eng reported it 
will be done in two weeks, for about six weeks.? Then WE looked at 
what/how we were doing the job and took a different approach.? it WAS 
done in two weeks, but needed six weeks of data (micro code) entry.? An 
intern did the data entry.

I don't see (from what I read) the delay being a software/firmware 
issue, but a hardware supply issue.? AND, I would like to see the 
supplier getting the product right (no replacements needed).

I did get "the" K4 email today.

*73, steve WB3LGC*

I see "this" as an opportunity for the "Easter Bunny" to bring a K4 
upgrade from a K4 to a K4D...

On 1/16/20 3:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
> Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
> So "bug-free" is impossible.
>
> Gwen, NG3P
>

From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan 16 17:28:04 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:28:04 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <C34A5843-2902-474D-A3DA-1DAFBBC0D63F@gmail.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
	<E3413715-311B-4668-A36D-EBA9F28B621D@portcredit.net>
	<C34A5843-2902-474D-A3DA-1DAFBBC0D63F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6870CDBF79E1066D4CFE7EAF9C360@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I am 74!

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT?er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Carl Yaffey
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:21 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

I, too, am disappointed. No one will die? Well, I?m 78, sir. I hope I have a few more years . . . . 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net> wrote:
> 
> All in good time
> 
> The world won?t end and no one will die if it comes out later. 
> 
> Mike va3mw 
> 
>> donate.html
> Message delivered to cyaffey at gmail.com

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From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan 16 17:28:43 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:28:43 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1579137765935-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
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TO be expected. If I die before delivery, no problem, I won't care.  :-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of W0FK
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:23 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch date was inevitable. it?s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 

Lou, W0FK 



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From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan 16 17:34:25 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:34:25 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <5e204369.1c69fb81.97cd6.964c@mx.google.com>
References: <33ECA2D2-8112-4F7D-9356-56AC3E85B38C@brannan.name>
	<5e204369.1c69fb81.97cd6.964c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6870E71E12BD9591C52336B09C360@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

The parts delay is really a good thing. The test units will provide lots of opportunity for more bugs to be worked out.  I know, I have purchased lots of "stuff" with bugs as the process has been let's get it launched and straighten out the errors as we go.  The delay, caused by parts,  is a huge benefit.  I expect the eventual roll out will be closer to done.  What other company has been so up front?  Go Elecraft.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT?er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of turnbull
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 5:05 AM
To: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>; mark roz <anegadasail at yahoo.com>
Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

Dear OMs and YLs, Better the extra time to do things right.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> Date: 16/01/2020  07:29  (GMT+00:00) To: mark roz <anegadasail at yahoo.com> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May Disappointing? It?s not unusual. Same happened with the KX3?production/shipping delays?and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as well. I don?t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it?s one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything I?d hoped for it to be and then some. Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PAEmail: buddy at brannan.nameMobile: (814) 431-0962> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:> > Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.> Very disappointing.> ______________________________________________________________> Elecraft mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name ______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie ______________________________________________________________
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From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk  Thu Jan 16 17:46:38 2020
From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:46:38 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 temperature compensation
Message-ID: <3ef65499-17cd-6981-6cf6-91d720ae0a99@horizon.co.fk>

Ref a recent post on this subject:

"That said, I did notice--as with others in previous posts to the various
Elecraft/KX3 lists--that the signal is significantly shifted on 6 meters
when performing the second reference calibration based on a HF signal 
(and vice versa). However, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference
regardless of where one calibrates on HF. For me, since I don't do much
operating on 6 meters, I kept the 10MHz based reference calibration. It
would be nice if one could set a separate reference frequency for 6m/2m 
vs. HF so that the radio can be right on frequency regardless of where 
it's being used."

 From the Elecraft wed site:

The XG50 is a simple 49.380MHz signal source specifically designed for 
use with the KX3 Extended VFO Temperature Compensation Procedure.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO





From Gary at ka1j.com  Thu Jan 16 18:04:42 2020
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 18:04:42 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May
In-Reply-To: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1769475941.14135390.1579136511845.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<1769475941.14135390.1579136511845@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5E20EC0A.23908.E81E7E3@Gary.ka1j.com>

I hear you, we have a finite life. 

Aside from that eternal reality, I can't 
imagine wishing for something that by 
logistics isn't ready for release. All I 
can picture if they did release it early, 
before it was realistically able to be 
released, is all the whining and 
complaints I would be reading on it being 
released too early.

OTOH, I like that they are doing what is 
possible to make the K4 intact as much as 
possible before its release.

I paid in full for the K4D and am more 
than happy to wait for the perfected 
version. Some are more "I want it and I 
want it now", that too is a valid concept.

73,

Gary
KA1J


> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.
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From kb1chu at aol.com  Thu Jan 16 18:26:27 2020
From: kb1chu at aol.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 18:26:27 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Delay in delivery
References: <6e63764e-fd00-6ad2-8783-d0c67d2e494c.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6e63764e-fd00-6ad2-8783-d0c67d2e494c@aol.com>

The delay in shipment of the K4 just means the K3S owners have the best 
Elecraft base radio they marketed a little longer.? :-) Steve kb1chu


From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 16 21:01:36 2020
From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 02:01:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 and Borland
References: <1461766329.46309.1579226496049.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1461766329.46309.1579226496049@mail.yahoo.com>

My only hope is that--with the K3s out of production--Elecraft doesn't get too squeezed financially before K4s start shipping.? I'm sure they are doing everything they can to get the conga line going.??
73 Eric WD6DBM
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From k9ma at sdellington.us  Fri Jan 17 00:25:52 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:25:52 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
Message-ID: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>

One of the things I miss is being able to hear between the dits, not 
just the letters. I know part of that is due to the inherent latency of 
DSP filters. In any case, I finally got around to actually measuring it. 
I just used a keyer with 50 percent weighting, and N1MM to set the 
speed. I found that the K3 could just barely hear something between the 
dits at 22 wpm, while my old FT-1000D could at 34 wpm. Both at 500 Hz 
bandwidth, fast AGC. The K3 has the new synthesizers. I did the test by 
listening to an S-7 carrier and sweeping the RIT back and forth while 
transmitting dits. Below the above speeds, I could just detect the 
change in pitch.

Increasing the bandwidth and turning off the AGC didn't make much 
difference.

I didn't try the QRQ mode on the K3.

It will be interesting to see how the K4 compares.

73,

Scott K9MA

-- 
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k9ma at sdellington.us


From ehr at qrv.com  Fri Jan 17 06:17:18 2020
From: ehr at qrv.com (E.H. Russell)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 06:17:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
Message-ID: <006301d5cd27$aec21030$0c463090$@qrv.com>

As I recall the FT-1000D accomplished that by shortening the dits and
producing an astonishing clatter.


THANKS,
73 ED W2RF



-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of K9MA
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 12:26 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)

One of the things I miss is being able to hear between the dits, not just
the letters. I know part of that is due to the inherent latency of DSP
filters. In any case, I finally got around to actually measuring it. 
I just used a keyer with 50 percent weighting, and N1MM to set the speed. I
found that the K3 could just barely hear something between the dits at 22
wpm, while my old FT-1000D could at 34 wpm. Both at 500 Hz bandwidth, fast
AGC. The K3 has the new synthesizers. I did the test by listening to an S-7
carrier and sweeping the RIT back and forth while transmitting dits. Below
the above speeds, I could just detect the change in pitch.

Increasing the bandwidth and turning off the AGC didn't make much
difference.

I didn't try the QRQ mode on the K3.

It will be interesting to see how the K4 compares.

73,

Scott K9MA

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From kurtt at pinrod.com  Fri Jan 17 08:45:56 2020
From: kurtt at pinrod.com (Kurt Pawlikowski)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 07:45:56 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
In-Reply-To: <CA+nQa2NCQ=GEvJ5TCRziDymGSxOjVpfVhYJSz+ebhtQNeu4z4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CEB06C1D-376E-41D9-ABFC-B19E1460EC0F@comcast.net>
	<5a0109a9-8be0-0f15-1761-45bfcb6d3f0c@foothill.net>
	<CABYU7Wg7kEUJYeoqGpDEyc0xD78ymyDoWvT6zNpqUYPd==78dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+nQa2NCQ=GEvJ5TCRziDymGSxOjVpfVhYJSz+ebhtQNeu4z4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f604fe06-3379-79bf-1ae2-607a95be0858@pinrod.com>

"By definition, the number of bugs in a program is infinite."

 ??? Regards,

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On 1/16/2020 2:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
> Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
> So "bug-free" is impossible.
>
> Gwen, NG3P
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
>
>> In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>>
>>> **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
>>>
>>> On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
>>>> I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When
>> I
>>> read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
>>> K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago
>> when
>>> our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
>>>> He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
>>> been finished by subcontractors who don?t provide the quality we insist
>>> on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said,
>> ? I
>>> know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
>>> the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won?t mean
>>> anything.?
>>>> He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
>>> how well it?s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the
>> delay
>>> is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
>>> same way once it arrives at our homes.    Besides, it will be a better
>> more
>>> refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Terry, N7TB
>>>>
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From a.durbin at msn.com  Fri Jan 17 09:04:36 2020
From: a.durbin at msn.com (Andy Durbin)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:04:36 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
Message-ID: <BYAPR16MB29681305BB2023254558AEAC8C310@BYAPR16MB2968.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

A few years ago I ran a series of CW keying tests on my Kenwood TS-590S.  I found that, when configured for full break-in, the RX did not have time to "wake up" at speeds faster than about 26 wpm even though T/R switching completed much faster than that.  Based on that test data I abandoned full QSK and now only listen between characters.  That's no handicap at all with my CW skill level and it significantly reduces the number of T/R relay cycles.

I'm surprised hear that the K3 has a similar limitation.   Does it really?

Andy, k3wyc

From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Fri Jan 17 10:49:06 2020
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:49:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay
In-Reply-To: <5a0109a9-8be0-0f15-1761-45bfcb6d3f0c@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10146i-E83EE09FB2C942E7BFE846B2E72A34AF@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

In the computer industry, we have a saying, "On time, Full 
featured, Debugged: Pick two." And the K4 is as much a computer 
as it is a radio.

I'm glad that most commenters go for slipping the on time part 
of the triad.

73 Bill AE6JV (Who's waiting for the kit)

On 1/16/20 at 2:25 PM, k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote:

>"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.

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From hamop at protonmail.com  Fri Jan 17 11:06:31 2020
From: hamop at protonmail.com (Gill)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:06:31 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
Message-ID: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>

I have two directional wire antennas for 160-40m that each work quite 
well with the KPA1500. I can electrically switch between the two 'for? 
best signal' - they are on Ant port 1. Ant port 2 is dedicated to a beam 
for 20M up. The tuning solution for each is wire antenna is different 
enough to cause faults frequently when I switch from one to? the other 
at higher power.? The issue is quite annoying on 160M & 80M. I have 
tried erasing the memory & "re-learning" the solution for each antenna 
so there would be only two solutions per bin. That did not help much. It 
would be a great addition to the amp if a "virtual Antenna port 3" could 
be implemented with software to select a portion of the bins for 
memorizing tuning solutions for another antenna. A macro could be used 
to track the selected section of memory when switching from the "NW ant" 
to the "NE ant." Then (hopefully) the amp would switch to the new 
solution series before key down. I, for one, would consider this a great 
addition for use in contests.


From indians at xsmail.com  Fri Jan 17 11:50:01 2020
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 09:50:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR16MB29681305BB2023254558AEAC8C310@BYAPR16MB2968.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
	<BYAPR16MB29681305BB2023254558AEAC8C310@BYAPR16MB2968.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1579279801835-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

look here:
https://youtu.be/dQCAiKEGTdA



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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Fri Jan 17 12:21:05 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 11:21:05 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Final edition before release
Message-ID: <1becc9d5-f76e-fc2d-dceb-ccfb2c2be20f@blomand.net>

 ?The development of software reminds me of the following story.??? I 
view software and to some extent, hardware, to follow this process.

As the story goes:?? The city fathers were building a new government 
building and wanted to have impressive bronze doors at the entrances.?? 
In order to make their selections, they boarded a bus and traveled to a 
foundry that made bronze doors.?? As they toured the foundry they 
observed the many steps used in the process of making the doors.?? At 
the point they came to near the end of the process, they noticed a 
fellow that was polishing a very large door.? One of the city fathers 
stepped over to the fellow, admired the gleam of the? highly polished 
door, and asked "how do you know you are finished?". The old fellow 
never looked up, but kept on polishing, and replied "sonny, we never get 
through, they just come take it away".

And that's the story of software.

73

Bob, K4TAX



From rich at wc3t.us  Fri Jan 17 12:38:51 2020
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:38:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Final edition before release
In-Reply-To: <1becc9d5-f76e-fc2d-dceb-ccfb2c2be20f@blomand.net>
References: <1becc9d5-f76e-fc2d-dceb-ccfb2c2be20f@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <CABYU7WjHypcQ_C_UJ0iOLjvD_K-mwDj5f5HCRyajJro+9onYNQ@mail.gmail.com>

i love this.  Forwarding to a bunch of my friends and peers.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:21 PM Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
wrote:

>   The development of software reminds me of the following story.    I
> view software and to some extent, hardware, to follow this process.
>
> As the story goes:   The city fathers were building a new government
> building and wanted to have impressive bronze doors at the entrances.
> In order to make their selections, they boarded a bus and traveled to a
> foundry that made bronze doors.   As they toured the foundry they
> observed the many steps used in the process of making the doors.   At
> the point they came to near the end of the process, they noticed a
> fellow that was polishing a very large door.  One of the city fathers
> stepped over to the fellow, admired the gleam of the  highly polished
> door, and asked "how do you know you are finished?". The old fellow
> never looked up, but kept on polishing, and replied "sonny, we never get
> through, they just come take it away".
>
> And that's the story of software.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
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*FN20is*

From k9ma at sdellington.us  Fri Jan 17 14:56:25 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:56:25 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <006301d5cd27$aec21030$0c463090$@qrv.com>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
	<006301d5cd27$aec21030$0c463090$@qrv.com>
Message-ID: <4b584b1e-d379-0bd4-4616-b5ee29e8dd00@sdellington.us>

The dits are a bit short on the FT-1000 in QSK mode, but I don't know 
how much difference that makes. The FT-1000, in any case, is much slower 
that some of the receivers I used long ago. Alas, I have none of them to 
test.

The FT-1000 is notorious for its key clicks, the reason I don't use it 
any more. I don't think that is related to QSK, as it's just as bad in 
PTT mode.

73,
Scott K9MA



On 1/17/2020 05:17, E.H. Russell wrote:
> As I recall the FT-1000D accomplished that by shortening the dits and
> producing an astonishing clatter.
>
>
> THANKS,
> 73 ED W2RF
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of K9MA
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 12:26 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
>
> One of the things I miss is being able to hear between the dits, not just
> the letters. I know part of that is due to the inherent latency of DSP
> filters. In any case, I finally got around to actually measuring it.
> I just used a keyer with 50 percent weighting, and N1MM to set the speed. I
> found that the K3 could just barely hear something between the dits at 22
> wpm, while my old FT-1000D could at 34 wpm. Both at 500 Hz bandwidth, fast
> AGC. The K3 has the new synthesizers. I did the test by listening to an S-7
> carrier and sweeping the RIT back and forth while transmitting dits. Below
> the above speeds, I could just detect the change in pitch.
>
> Increasing the bandwidth and turning off the AGC didn't make much
> difference.
>
> I didn't try the QRQ mode on the K3.
>
> It will be interesting to see how the K4 compares.
>
> 73,
>
> Scott K9MA
>
> --
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>
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>
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jan 17 15:14:15 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:14:15 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <4b584b1e-d379-0bd4-4616-b5ee29e8dd00@sdellington.us>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
	<006301d5cd27$aec21030$0c463090$@qrv.com>
	<4b584b1e-d379-0bd4-4616-b5ee29e8dd00@sdellington.us>
Message-ID: <d8933a5e-6fe6-bdbe-74e4-c70a8142546e@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/17/2020 11:56 AM, K9MA wrote:
> The FT-1000 is notorious for its key clicks

There were hardware mods to significantly reduce the clicks, but even 
then the FT1000-series is a pretty broad rig by modern standards, as are 
current production Yaesu rigs.

73, Jim K9YC

From no9e at arrl.net  Fri Jan 17 16:14:04 2020
From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:14:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
Message-ID: <1579295644167-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

With TX/RX switching and DSP, K3 can do only so much.

For K3 with 2nd RX, perhaps a new firmware can add a trick from Flex 6600.
While basic QSK in Flex is slow due to DSP delays, it is very good if 2nd rx
is used for receiving in duplex mode. All what is needed is to mute 2nd rx
during transmitting and switch ANT to 2nd rx after that. 

It may be too much programming for Elecraft, though.

Ignacy, NO9E




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From no9e at arrl.net  Fri Jan 17 16:17:54 2020
From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:17:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
References: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <1579295874572-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I use MFJ-998 that has two ports attached to 2 crisscrossed dipoles fed by
ladderline. When frequencies are pretuned, recalling tune on ANT1
automatically matches ANT2 so that switching to ANT2 does not need any extra
match.   
Ignacy, NO9E



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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Jan 17 17:02:08 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:02:08 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Final edition before release
In-Reply-To: <1becc9d5-f76e-fc2d-dceb-ccfb2c2be20f@blomand.net>
References: <1becc9d5-f76e-fc2d-dceb-ccfb2c2be20f@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <301c523b-ee0d-26a6-4413-eeee4a15608a@foothill.net>

While the Division Chief Engineer and an the obligatory cake and "Happy 
Birthday" in the conference room, each singing in his or her own key, I 
was presented with a framed notice:

"There comes a point in every project when one must shoot the Engineers 
and go into production."? I hung it over my desk.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 1/17/2020 9:21 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> ?The development of software reminds me of the following story.??? I 
> view software and to some extent, hardware, to follow this process.
>
> As the story goes:?? The city fathers were building a new government 
> building and wanted to have impressive bronze doors at the 
> entrances.?? In order to make their selections, they boarded a bus and 
> traveled to a foundry that made bronze doors.?? As they toured the 
> foundry they observed the many steps used in the process of making the 
> doors.?? At the point they came to near the end of the process, they 
> noticed a fellow that was polishing a very large door.? One of the 
> city fathers stepped over to the fellow, admired the gleam of the? 
> highly polished door, and asked "how do you know you are finished?". 
> The old fellow never looked up, but kept on polishing, and replied 
> "sonny, we never get through, they just come take it away".
>
> And that's the story of software.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX


From Lyn at LNAINC.com  Fri Jan 17 17:15:51 2020
From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:15:51 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Final edition before release
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7WjHypcQ_C_UJ0iOLjvD_K-mwDj5f5HCRyajJro+9onYNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1becc9d5-f76e-fc2d-dceb-ccfb2c2be20f@blomand.net>
	<CABYU7WjHypcQ_C_UJ0iOLjvD_K-mwDj5f5HCRyajJro+9onYNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <025b01d5cd83$ae10bcc0$0a323640$@LNAINC.com>

I used to have a plaque on the wall in my office that read:

 

Software is never finished

                  ... it's abandoned.

 

I believe it?s true that software is as much art as science.  In fact, Leonardo da Vinci is widely credited with having said it first:

 

Art is never finished, only abandoned.

 

73

Lyn, W?LEN

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rich hurd WC3T
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 11:39 AM
To: Bob McGraw K4TAX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Final edition before release

 

i love this.  Forwarding to a bunch of my friends and peers.

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:21 PM Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>

wrote:

 

>   The development of software reminds me of the following story.    I

> view software and to some extent, hardware, to follow this process.

> 

> As the story goes:   The city fathers were building a new government

> building and wanted to have impressive bronze doors at the entrances.

> In order to make their selections, they boarded a bus and traveled to a

> foundry that made bronze doors.   As they toured the foundry they

> observed the many steps used in the process of making the doors.   At

> the point they came to near the end of the process, they noticed a

> fellow that was polishing a very large door.  One of the city fathers

> stepped over to the fellow, admired the gleam of the  highly polished

> door, and asked "how do you know you are finished?". The old fellow

> never looked up, but kept on polishing, and replied "sonny, we never get

> through, they just come take it away".

> 

> And that's the story of software.

> 

> 73

> 

> Bob, K4TAX

> 

> 

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From thom2 at att.net  Fri Jan 17 19:19:49 2020
From: thom2 at att.net (Tom McCulloch)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:19:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dug my K2 out today
In-Reply-To: <1579044567042-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <61D1C15D-26C9-4080-8E8B-7BD7B913380F@charter.net>
	<E4377B11-24C5-4273-A3C9-B0B8FA743DC0@elecraft.com>
	<1579044567042-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <d92b68a0-7a25-dcb1-fdc0-7015878d43ba@att.net>

Hi Fred,

 ?One word of advice on building your K2:? Take your time and savor 
every moment of the build.? It was by far my best building experience.

Good luck es have fun,

Tom, WB2QDG

K2# 1103



On 1/14/2020 6:29 PM, KD8ZYD - Fred wrote:
> I just got one from Santa...serial number 7923.  I'm loving building it.  It
> will take sometime to build since I'm so busy during the week.  But once its
> built, I'm going to start getting all the add-ons, the 100 Watt
> amp...antenna tuner...SSB...and the rest!  What a joy!  There is not another
> kit like this on the market that I'm aware of!!  Let me tell you the support
> I'm getting from Elecraft when questions pop up (Thanks Dave) and 2nd to
> none!  What an amazing company!!
>
>
>
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From n4zr at comcast.net  Fri Jan 17 22:20:40 2020
From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:20:40 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
References: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <1dab573a-2c12-8c2d-f167-ca42deb22086@comcast.net>

Gill, you don't mention which firmware you're running on the KPA-1500.? 
About a month ago the guys at Elecraft released revised firmware to help 
me fix what sounds like an identical problem.? With the latest firmware 
I jump back and forth between very dissimilar antennas on ANT 1 on 40M 
(via an external switch), with never a hiccup. At most, the amp is 
bypassed for a split second while the machine figures things out, but no 
faults.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/17/2020 11:06 AM, Gill via Elecraft wrote:
> I have two directional wire antennas for 160-40m that each work quite
> well with the KPA1500. I can electrically switch between the two 'for
> best signal' - they are on Ant port 1. Ant port 2 is dedicated to a beam
> for 20M up. The tuning solution for each is wire antenna is different
> enough to cause faults frequently when I switch from one to? the other
> at higher power.? The issue is quite annoying on 160M & 80M. I have
> tried erasing the memory & "re-learning" the solution for each antenna
> so there would be only two solutions per bin. That did not help much. It
> would be a great addition to the amp if a "virtual Antenna port 3" could
> be implemented with software to select a portion of the bins for
> memorizing tuning solutions for another antenna. A macro could be used
> to track the selected section of memory when switching from the "NW ant"
> to the "NE ant." Then (hopefully) the amp would switch to the new
> solution series before key down. I, for one, would consider this a great
> addition for use in contests.
>
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From k9ma at sdellington.us  Sat Jan 18 00:00:05 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 23:00:05 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <d8933a5e-6fe6-bdbe-74e4-c70a8142546e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
	<006301d5cd27$aec21030$0c463090$@qrv.com>
	<4b584b1e-d379-0bd4-4616-b5ee29e8dd00@sdellington.us>
	<d8933a5e-6fe6-bdbe-74e4-c70a8142546e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <691a0c3d-d492-11cf-a75b-ae1d18dda78f@sdellington.us>

Yes, I did those mods to my FT-1000D long ago. It helped, but it's still 
pretty bad. I can detect the FT1000's a (couple thousand) mile(s) away 
on the P3.

73,
Scott K9MA


On 1/17/2020 14:14, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 1/17/2020 11:56 AM, K9MA wrote:
>> The FT-1000 is notorious for its key clicks
>
> There were hardware mods to significantly reduce the clicks, but even 
> then the FT1000-series is a pretty broad rig by modern standards, as 
> are current production Yaesu rigs.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From chandlerusm at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 07:40:46 2020
From: chandlerusm at gmail.com (Chuck Chandler)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 06:40:46 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <1dab573a-2c12-8c2d-f167-ca42deb22086@comcast.net>
References: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
	<1dab573a-2c12-8c2d-f167-ca42deb22086@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAOoYq8_mBivFR3KKACdM09zX4pGbb80_9xO5Uji13RHbnoxs8g@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to know more about this, as it would solve an issue I have.

I have two stations, with multiple antennas switched between them with an
Array Solutions Six-Pak.  On 80 and 40 I have both a vertical and a dipole,
and often one is better than the other.  The tuning on them is different
enough to cause a fault when switching unless I put the amp in standby, put
the tuner in Auto, let it tune, then put the tuner in Manual and the amp in
Operate.

My amp is the KPA500, the Six-Pak is connected to Ant 1 on the amp.

If there is a way to have the KPA500 see a high swr and pick from more than
one known solution in less time than it takes to fault, then I could switch
back and forth between two "similar but not identical" antennas to pick the
best one as the signal fades in and out.  I'd bet I'm not the only one who
would benefit from this.

If it's possible now, a quick pointer to the correct portion of the
manual... if not, please consider it for an enhancement in the future!

73 de Chuck, WS1L

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:21 PM N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:

> Gill, you don't mention which firmware you're running on the KPA-1500.
> About a month ago the guys at Elecraft released revised firmware to help
> me fix what sounds like an identical problem.  With the latest firmware
> I jump back and forth between very dissimilar antennas on ANT 1 on 40M
> (via an external switch), with never a hiccup. At most, the amp is
> bypassed for a split second while the machine figures things out, but no
> faults.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 1/17/2020 11:06 AM, Gill via Elecraft wrote:
> > I have two directional wire antennas for 160-40m that each work quite
> > well with the KPA1500. I can electrically switch between the two 'for
> > best signal' - they are on Ant port 1. Ant port 2 is dedicated to a beam
> > for 20M up. The tuning solution for each is wire antenna is different
> > enough to cause faults frequently when I switch from one to  the other
> > at higher power.  The issue is quite annoying on 160M & 80M. I have
> > tried erasing the memory & "re-learning" the solution for each antenna
> > so there would be only two solutions per bin. That did not help much. It
> > would be a great addition to the amp if a "virtual Antenna port 3" could
> > be implemented with software to select a portion of the bins for
> > memorizing tuning solutions for another antenna. A macro could be used
> > to track the selected section of memory when switching from the "NW ant"
> > to the "NE ant." Then (hopefully) the amp would switch to the new
> > solution series before key down. I, for one, would consider this a great
> > addition for use in contests.
> >
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From chandlerusm at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 07:42:17 2020
From: chandlerusm at gmail.com (Chuck Chandler)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 06:42:17 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
References: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOoYq8_u7CmHUGrS2MBuBa=ki0yWqgX5Cwg3s3RxjNAfmVnZ6w@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I mis-spoke in my last msg.

The Six-Pak is connected to Ant1 on the KAT500, not the KPA500!

73, WS1L

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:07 AM Gill via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

> I have two directional wire antennas for 160-40m that each work quite
> well with the KPA1500. I can electrically switch between the two 'for
> best signal' - they are on Ant port 1. Ant port 2 is dedicated to a beam
> for 20M up. The tuning solution for each is wire antenna is different
> enough to cause faults frequently when I switch from one to  the other
> at higher power.  The issue is quite annoying on 160M & 80M. I have
> tried erasing the memory & "re-learning" the solution for each antenna
> so there would be only two solutions per bin. That did not help much. It
> would be a great addition to the amp if a "virtual Antenna port 3" could
> be implemented with software to select a portion of the bins for
> memorizing tuning solutions for another antenna. A macro could be used
> to track the selected section of memory when switching from the "NW ant"
> to the "NE ant." Then (hopefully) the amp would switch to the new
> solution series before key down. I, for one, would consider this a great
> addition for use in contests.
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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===================

From macymonkeys at charter.net  Sat Jan 18 11:55:25 2020
From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 08:55:25 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a KPA500?
Message-ID: <0B2F3A2F-C840-42AF-BA06-CF161CD61E50@charter.net>

Does an inrush limiter like the Ameritron ICP-240 offer any benefit to the KPA500?

Thanks, John K7FD

From wb6rse1 at mac.com  Sat Jan 18 12:56:33 2020
From: wb6rse1 at mac.com (wb6rse1 at mac.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:56:33 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <CAOoYq8_u7CmHUGrS2MBuBa=ki0yWqgX5Cwg3s3RxjNAfmVnZ6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
	<CAOoYq8_u7CmHUGrS2MBuBa=ki0yWqgX5Cwg3s3RxjNAfmVnZ6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF363B60-1A03-4339-A737-AA2EFB5547C3@mac.com>

Menu:

ATU HiSWR Retune (per band) - default is OFF

Set to ON (per band)

Change antennas, a "dit" will switch to the learned tuning solution, per bin, for the newly selected antenna.

See the manual section: "Multiple Antennas and External Antenna Switches."

73 - Steve WB6RSE

From wb4ooa at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 13:06:23 2020
From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:06:23 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a KPA500?
Message-ID: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>

NO.  Solid state amps do not need inrush protection.  73's 

Ron WB4OOA
Elecraft K-Line




From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Jan 18 13:41:38 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 12:41:38 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40e672fb-1712-e768-9615-4129f49157ad@blomand.net>

Solid state amps do not require added inrush protection.

And most correctly designed tube amps do not need inrush protection.?? 
In cases where the design, usually HB ones, have excessive current 
capacity in the heater or filament transformer, or in cases where HV 
transformers have insufficient resistance in the secondary are cases 
where inrush protection is desired.

Amps such as SB-200, SB-220, TL-922, L4B, Centurion, Titian, Amp Supply, 
Ameritron, and other like commercial amps have sufficient design 
implementations such that those do not require inrush protection.??? At 
the same time, many amps using indirectly heated cathodes may have time 
delay systems to allow the heater to get the cathode to correct 
operating temperature is different than inrush protection

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/18/2020 12:06 PM, Ron Durie wrote:
> NO.  Solid state amps do not need inrush protection.  73's
>
> Ron WB4OOA
> Elecraft K-Line
>
>
>
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From macymonkeys at charter.net  Sat Jan 18 13:42:16 2020
From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:42:16 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
	KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>


Thanks, Ron! I understand NO, hi!

John K7FD

> On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Ron Durie <wb4ooa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> NO.  Solid state amps do not need inrush protection.  73's 
> 
> Ron WB4OOA
> Elecraft K-Line
> 
> 
> 
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Jan 18 13:44:49 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 12:44:49 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Radio interference from Solar Panels
Message-ID: <bf2cb738-a5b9-986b-3be5-3d3565d4fece@blomand.net>

The Swedish Electrical Safety Agency and the Swedish Energy Agency are investigating radio interference from installations with solar panels

Sweden's national amateur radio society SSA reports:  Solar panels are becoming more and more common.   An increasing problem is that interference can be created to radio reception.   The newsletter (L?NK) from the Swedish Electricity Safety Agency states that they are looking more closely at the inverters and optimizers found in solar panel installations.  The Swedish Electric Safety Authority is doing this together with the Swedish Energy Agency in a project that is ongoing until March 2020.

The Swedish Electricity Safety Agency article is at
https://www.elsakerhetsverket.se/om-oss/press/nyhetsbrev/2019/december/storande-solceller/

Source SSAhttps://tinyurl.com/SwedenSSA


73
Bob, K4TAX


From roger at mulzer.de  Sat Jan 18 13:55:00 2020
From: roger at mulzer.de (Roger)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:55:00 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on
	a	KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
	<1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>

NO amplifier needs inrush protection - it is the POWERSUPPLY that needs it
no matter how it is implemented.
So the answer is not an easy "NO" or "YES" but a definite "it depends"!

Roger, DL5RBW

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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:42 PM
To: Ron Durie
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
KPA500?


Thanks, Ron! I understand NO, hi!

John K7FD

> On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Ron Durie <wb4ooa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> NO.  Solid state amps do not need inrush protection.  73's
> 
> Ron WB4OOA
> Elecraft K-Line
> 
> 
> 
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Jan 18 14:13:03 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:13:03 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
	<1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
	<001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
Message-ID: <c585a94c-0e3a-94a4-43fd-f330c57acf50@blomand.net>

"Amplifier" as in all inclusive.? The models I referenced all have 
internal power supplies, with exception of 2 models.??? The design of 
the transformers in these amplifiers are such that inrush current does 
not exceed maximum magnetization current.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/18/2020 12:55 PM, Roger wrote:
> NO amplifier needs inrush protection - it is the POWERSUPPLY that needs it
> no matter how it is implemented.
> So the answer is not an easy "NO" or "YES" but a definite "it depends"!
>
> Roger, DL5RBW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Macy monkeys
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:42 PM
> To: Ron Durie
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
> KPA500?
>
>
> Thanks, Ron! I understand NO, hi!
>
> John K7FD
>
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Ron Durie <wb4ooa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> NO.  Solid state amps do not need inrush protection.  73's
>>
>> Ron WB4OOA
>> Elecraft K-Line
>>
>>
>>
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From chandlerusm at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 14:22:26 2020
From: chandlerusm at gmail.com (Chuck Chandler)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:22:26 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Antenna Select Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <AF363B60-1A03-4339-A737-AA2EFB5547C3@mac.com>
References: <0e0f6c12-7258-296d-667a-4cbc3a0ef14b@protonmail.com>
	<CAOoYq8_u7CmHUGrS2MBuBa=ki0yWqgX5Cwg3s3RxjNAfmVnZ6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<AF363B60-1A03-4339-A737-AA2EFB5547C3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAOoYq8_g7VXHDqqznPhZPxZssHbGAgY+2g01iPkmmbShjBtkAg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Steve for the menu item, but that doesn't appear in my KAT500
manual and the utility software doesn't show that as an option.

Must be a KPA1500 thing.

73 de Chuck, WS1L

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 11:57 AM Steve Lawrence via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Menu:
>
> ATU HiSWR Retune (per band) - default is OFF
>
> Set to ON (per band)
>
> Change antennas, a "dit" will switch to the learned tuning solution, per
> bin, for the newly selected antenna.
>
> See the manual section: "Multiple Antennas and External Antenna Switches."
>
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 14:49:08 2020
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:49:08 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Radio interference from Solar Panels
In-Reply-To: <bf2cb738-a5b9-986b-3be5-3d3565d4fece@blomand.net>
References: <bf2cb738-a5b9-986b-3be5-3d3565d4fece@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <emf4d108e9-2c02-4a7d-95cd-2dee491409ee@laptop3>

Bob,
     It isn't just a problem in Sweden. We have seriously here in the 
U.S. Panels put in my Solar City annd a another company, I can't 
remember the name, are also rather problematic. They make no effort to 
suppress the noise caused by both the equalizers nor the power 
converters. There are typically no use of ferrite's, conduits, or 
twisted wire. There was an article on this in QST a while back, and 
several local hams have complained to the installation companies and 
have had them respond and make repairs. I do believe that ham radio as a 
service under the FCC is protected from these sorts of things.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; 
"Elecraft-K3 at groups.io" <Elecraft-K3 at groups.io>
Sent: 1/18/2020 1:44:49 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Radio interference from Solar Panels

>The Swedish Electrical Safety Agency and the Swedish Energy Agency are investigating radio interference from installations with solar panels
>
>Sweden's national amateur radio society SSA reports:  Solar panels are becoming more and more common.   An increasing problem is that interference can be created to radio reception.   The newsletter (L?NK) from the Swedish Electricity Safety Agency states that they are looking more closely at the inverters and optimizers found in solar panel installations.  The Swedish Electric Safety Authority is doing this together with the Swedish Energy Agency in a project that is ongoing until March 2020.
>
>The Swedish Electricity Safety Agency article is at
>https://www.elsakerhetsverket.se/om-oss/press/nyhetsbrev/2019/december/storande-solceller/
>
>Source SSAhttps://tinyurl.com/SwedenSSA
>
>
>73
>Bob, K4TAX
>
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From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 15:14:51 2020
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 22:14:51 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <c585a94c-0e3a-94a4-43fd-f330c57acf50@blomand.net>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
	<1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
	<001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
	<c585a94c-0e3a-94a4-43fd-f330c57acf50@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <0a3ce3ea-dee0-5816-b9eb-366e323ccd3d@gmail.com>

Well, I don't totally agree. The power switch in some of those amps like 
the SB220 or TL922 is highly stressed. There is a big "thump" sometimes 
when they are turned on at the right point in the cycle. I also believe 
that slower application of filament voltage to a 3-500z or similar 
lengthens the life of the filament.
But this is about KPA500s, so I suppose the answer is 'no'.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 18/01/2020 21:13, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
 > "Amplifier" as in all inclusive.  The models I referenced all have 
internal power supplies, with exception of 2 models.    The design of 
the transformers in these amplifiers are such that inrush current does 
not exceed maximum magnetization current.
 >
 > 73
 >
 > Bob, K4TAX
 >

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Jan 18 15:40:10 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 12:40:10 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <0a3ce3ea-dee0-5816-b9eb-366e323ccd3d@gmail.com>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
	<1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
	<001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
	<c585a94c-0e3a-94a4-43fd-f330c57acf50@blomand.net>
	<0a3ce3ea-dee0-5816-b9eb-366e323ccd3d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe7bc3a2-4e77-7ca7-550d-e0a8e87b1741@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/18/2020 12:14 PM, Victor Rosenthal wrote:
> The power switch in some of those amps like the SB220 or TL922 is highly 
> stressed. T

My late '70s vintage Ten Tec Titan amps include circuity to minimize the 
turn-on transient, at least some of which is due to charging of the 
capacitors in the LV and HV power supplies. A surge to charge these caps 
is inherent in any capacitor-input PSU, and the strength of it depends 
on where in the 60 Hz cycle it amp is turned on. I own three of these 
amps, and the circuit values was a running production change that 
evolved over time.

This became a serious problem in large sound systems that included a lot 
of big power amps; with several amps on a circuit, it was not uncommon 
for breakers to pop when a system was powered up. In the largest 
systems, a turn-on at the peak of the cycle could take out the main 
breaker! Several schemes were developed; Crown, for example, developed a 
circuit to randomly delay the turn-on of their amps, and several 
companies developed dedicated sequencers that sat between the amps and 
their outlets.

73, Jim K9YC

From k9ma at sdellington.us  Sat Jan 18 15:59:44 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:59:44 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <fe7bc3a2-4e77-7ca7-550d-e0a8e87b1741@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
	<1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
	<001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
	<c585a94c-0e3a-94a4-43fd-f330c57acf50@blomand.net>
	<0a3ce3ea-dee0-5816-b9eb-366e323ccd3d@gmail.com>
	<fe7bc3a2-4e77-7ca7-550d-e0a8e87b1741@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <215f646b-571b-6be5-d896-7987c9f2b88f@sdellington.us>


> On 1/18/2020 12:14 PM, Victor Rosenthal wrote:
>> The power switch in some of those amps like the SB220 or TL922 is 
>> highly stressed. T

Another cause of high input current is transformer saturation. If the 
core happened to be fully magnetized in one direction when last turned 
off, and the AC happens to want to magnetize it more in the same 
direction at turn-on, the core can saturate for half cycle. It's a 
random event, which doesn't happen often, but it's hard on switches. It 
can also make that "bong" sound at turn-on.

73,

Scott K9MA

-- 
Scott  K9MA

k9ma at sdellington.us


From k2qmf at juno.com  Sat Jan 18 17:33:33 2020
From: k2qmf at juno.com (Salvatore Ted  K2QMF)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:33:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA 1500 Question
Message-ID: <Mailbird-d61c3cbd-cea0-424a-a780-22bae04393d0@juno.com>

Hello All,
Does anyone know if there are any issues with the KPA 1500 when used in a multi transmitter contest environment??
Thanks in advance for any info of input on this!!
73,
Ted? K2QMF
____________________________________________________________
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sat Jan 18 17:36:46 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:36:46 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <943484f9-cda1-7666-3b90-1e7a26e551ca@coho.net>

Good Afternoon,

Let's take a peek into the misty past; when the K1 was young while the 
KPA100 was taking its own time to reach the market.? The Elecraft CW Net 
began on June 6, 2002.? I picked the date to honor my then recently 
departed uncle who was a paratrooper that day. It began with a few 
responses to my shaky fist.? What better way to become proficient at CW 
than to start a net?? Fools rush in ...? Over time there were more check 
ins and the guidance of others.? Tom Hammond, N0SS, crafted much of the 
net's framework and helped me by acting as an alternate NCS.? Tom lived 
in central Missouri so he was inside my first hop on 20 meters.? He 
would call those to the east as well as those too close to me.? I would 
follow along copying each op he worked in turn.? When he handed net 
control back to me he would run through the list but it was just to 
check my copy.? Occasionally he would pass the net to an op in 
Connecticut for another round of check ins.? Most of those I could not 
hear so their list was mandatory.? We reached into Iceland, South 
Africa, New Zealand, Hungary, Russia (from both directions), and a few 
South American countries.

Things were fine until Tom became weaker from his illness.? He no longer 
could act as an NCS.? No one took his place.? But then he had very big 
shoes to fill.? Tom could copy CW at incredible speeds.? I think he 
mentioned 60 wpm, he also said his fingers weren't up to that speed any 
longer.? While I have never attained those speeds I have felt the 
ravages of time effect my own fist. Tom's passing left a large hole in 
the Elecraft family.? He had been one of the field testers for 
Elecraft's first product: the K2.? He also helped anyone in the amateur 
community who asked for his assistance.? He promised to help me with my 
CW copy by providing a bit more 'ouch'.? Keeping the carrot just out of 
reach is a great way to improve your copy speed.? Tom was offering to 
take me past 30 wpm into the medium speed realm of the code.? He is 
sorely missed.

Acting as an NCS is not too difficult.? Just call CQ ECN and be polite.? 
Work those you can and thank them for their time.? Keep a list of call 
signs and whatever else they think is important. Kids soccer scores, 
dogs' names, grandkids, even new radio equipment.? Weather is a safe 
subject; it allows those of us who rarely see the sun during the winter 
to vicariously experience it.? When you no longer receive any response 
to your CQ ECN (Tom's name by the way) pass net control back to whoever 
passed it to you.? Send your list and any fills necessary.? Email is 
fine too; this is not a contest so the "rules" are very lax.? I only 
apply a few rules: have fun and be polite.? Tom placed a speed limit 
rule on me too.? At or near 20 wpm and he would work the 'chicken fat' 
operators :)

If you would like to help and you live in my first or second hop please 
tell me and you'll get the NCS hat for a time.? It is a great way to 
meet Elecraft folks and to work on your CW skills.

Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday? (2 PM PST Sunday)
 ?7047 kHz at 0000z Monday? (4 PM PST Sunday)

73,

 ?? Kevin. KD5ONS

-





From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sat Jan 18 18:45:04 2020
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:45:04 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
References: <000001d5ce29$fec4a9a0$fc4dfce0$@gmail.com>
	<1B93053B-B203-453F-AD57-154DEA962E0D@charter.net>
	<001401d5ce30$c90c0d60$5b242820$@mulzer.de>
Message-ID: <d552eb34-a5ec-87c8-9982-5933815b7bbc@foothill.net>

10 KW homebrew FM broadcast TX [not kidding -- KPFK 90.7 Los Angeles in 
the late 50's, 4 4-1000A's* in parallel driven by a 1 KW stage] had a 
step-start using mechanical time-delay relays.**? It limited the inrush 
current to the filter capacitors of the 5.5 KV plate power supply.? It 
was part of the power supply in the back room, not the PA.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

* I do *not* recommend 4 ea 4-1000A's in parallel at 90.7 MHz. Things 
got very hot.

** Integrated circuits and microprocessors has not been invented then.? 
Actually, the transistor barely had been.

On 1/18/2020 10:55 AM, Roger wrote:
> NO amplifier needs inrush protection - it is the POWERSUPPLY that needs it
> no matter how it is implemented.
> So the answer is not an easy "NO" or "YES" but a definite "it depends"!
>
> Roger, DL5RBW
>
>


From wglevy at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 20:31:53 2020
From: wglevy at gmail.com (William Levy)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 20:31:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT- Final edition before release
Message-ID: <CAGAru0-3Q+65B-j8UcoBC_j2JnqVcmPDj=4_kBbnSO5qw0qeng@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps you haven't noticed.

The software is never finished because we now have to upgrade:

Our cameras
Our radios
Our TV's
Our Computers
Our GPS boxes

It never stops. How I miss my KWM2A!

Oh and now that the photo cells have gotten better than film ever was......
we have to upgrade our lenses. This goes for everything else on the list
above.

From jimk0xu at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 20:52:23 2020
From: jimk0xu at gmail.com (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:52:23 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT- Final edition before release
In-Reply-To: <CAGAru0-3Q+65B-j8UcoBC_j2JnqVcmPDj=4_kBbnSO5qw0qeng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAru0-3Q+65B-j8UcoBC_j2JnqVcmPDj=4_kBbnSO5qw0qeng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALhxr4ZbgwcnfqsK4_twvFFTNH_ZKgT31UCny27tjHQJ-8-_vg@mail.gmail.com>

I used to tell my little brother that the reason computers were getting
more powerful and more expensive was because programmers were paid too much
and when they got that big check they would just go out and buy a bigger,
more powerful computer and then would write software that wouldn't run
properly on the older, cheaper machines, so we had to upgrade to bigger,
more expensive computers, just to do the same things we did on our older,
slower, cheaper computers. He just smiled.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM William Levy <wglevy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps you haven't noticed.
>
> The software is never finished because we now have to upgrade:
>
> Our cameras
> Our radios
> Our TV's
> Our Computers
> Our GPS boxes
>
> It never stops. How I miss my KWM2A!
>
> Oh and now that the photo cells have gotten better than film ever was......
> we have to upgrade our lenses. This goes for everything else on the list
> above.
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From k9yeq at live.com  Sat Jan 18 21:31:22 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:31:22 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT- Final edition before release
In-Reply-To: <CALhxr4ZbgwcnfqsK4_twvFFTNH_ZKgT31UCny27tjHQJ-8-_vg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGAru0-3Q+65B-j8UcoBC_j2JnqVcmPDj=4_kBbnSO5qw0qeng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALhxr4ZbgwcnfqsK4_twvFFTNH_ZKgT31UCny27tjHQJ-8-_vg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6870B5080B191B8445AB66B19C330@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Actually there were programmer rules and conventions while writing which did require that the managers maintained the proper procedures.  These conventions disappeared, programmers quit document lines of code and then all hell broke loose.  Do you think this changed today?  Layers and layers of non-descript code exist and plague the programs today.  Backwards compatibility and versioning have helped create the buggy world of today. Sloppy programming, lack of oversight and accountability plague our world.  You ask?  How do I know this, worked in the industry.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Jim Rhodes
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:52 PM
To: William Levy <wglevy at gmail.com>
Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT- Final edition before release

I used to tell my little brother that the reason computers were getting more powerful and more expensive was because programmers were paid too much and when they got that big check they would just go out and buy a bigger, more powerful computer and then would write software that wouldn't run properly on the older, cheaper machines, so we had to upgrade to bigger, more expensive computers, just to do the same things we did on our older, slower, cheaper computers. He just smiled.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM William Levy <wglevy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps you haven't noticed.
>
> The software is never finished because we now have to upgrade:
>
> Our cameras
> Our radios
> Our TV's
> Our Computers
> Our GPS boxes
>
> It never stops. How I miss my KWM2A!
>
> Oh and now that the photo cells have gotten better than film ever was......
> we have to upgrade our lenses. This goes for everything else on the 
> list above.
> ______________________________________________________________
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From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 00:49:13 2020
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 07:49:13 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
	KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <d552eb34-a5ec-87c8-9982-5933815b7bbc@foothill.net>
References: <d552eb34-a5ec-87c8-9982-5933815b7bbc@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>

Just like the 1930s vintage Western Electric at WKOP when I worked there in the early 60s. When you turned it on, it went click-click-click-click BLANG.
Two tubes, 12 kV on the plates, about 1 amp plate current for 5 kW output.

Victor 4X6GP 

> On 19 Jan 2020, at 1:45, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> ?10 KW homebrew FM broadcast TX [not kidding -- KPFK 90.7 Los Angeles in the late 50's, 4 4-1000A's* in parallel driven by a 1 KW stage] had a step-start using mechanical time-delay relays.**  It limited the inrush current to the filter capacitors of the 5.5 KV plate power supply.  It was part of the power supply in the back room, not the PA.
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> * I do *not* recommend 4 ea 4-1000A's in parallel at 90.7 MHz. Things got very hot.
> 
> ** Integrated circuits and microprocessors has not been invented then.  Actually, the transistor barely had been.
> 
>> On 1/18/2020 10:55 AM, Roger wrote:
>> NO amplifier needs inrush protection - it is the POWERSUPPLY that needs it
>> no matter how it is implemented.
>> So the answer is not an easy "NO" or "YES" but a definite "it depends"!
>> 
>> Roger, DL5RBW
>> 
>> 
> 
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 19 04:34:51 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 04:34:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
	KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
References: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>

Guys,

This is very interesting. Is there a Wiki site where all your explanations are collected together.  I am Interested in the magnetization of the iron in the transformers and the effect of the turn on current phase causing an over magnetization of the iron core and drawing too much current at first.  This is all new to me.  Just an interest as I have never run over 100 watts and usually 5 - 10 watts is enough for me.  

Also, how do those inrush devices work?  I have seen them offered for the old Heathkit amps.

Thank you.

Dave K8WPE since 1960 always learning something new from you guys and gals.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Vic Rosenthal <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Just like the 1930s vintage Western Electric at WKOP when I worked there in the early 60s. When you turned it on, it went click-click-click-click BLANG.
> Two tubes, 12 kV on the plates, about 1 amp plate current for 5 kW output.
> 
> Victor 4X6GP 
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2020, at 1:45, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?10 KW homebrew FM broadcast TX [not kidding -- KPFK 90.7 Los Angeles in the late 50's, 4 4-1000A's* in parallel driven by a 1 KW stage] had a step-start using mechanical time-delay relays.**  It limited the inrush current to the filter capacitors of the 5.5 KV plate power supply.  It was part of the power supply in the back room, not the PA.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> * I do *not* recommend 4 ea 4-1000A's in parallel at 90.7 MHz. Things got very hot.
>> 
>> ** Integrated circuits and microprocessors has not been invented then.  Actually, the transistor barely had been.
>> 
>>>> On 1/18/2020 10:55 AM, Roger wrote:
>>> NO amplifier needs inrush protection - it is the POWERSUPPLY that needs it
>>> no matter how it is implemented.
>>> So the answer is not an easy "NO" or "YES" but a definite "it depends"!
>>> 
>>> Roger, DL5RBW
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 19 04:34:51 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 04:34:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
	KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
References: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>

Guys,

This is very interesting. Is there a Wiki site where all your explanations are collected together.  I am Interested in the magnetization of the iron in the transformers and the effect of the turn on current phase causing an over magnetization of the iron core and drawing too much current at first.  This is all new to me.  Just an interest as I have never run over 100 watts and usually 5 - 10 watts is enough for me.  

Also, how do those inrush devices work?  I have seen them offered for the old Heathkit amps.

Thank you.

Dave K8WPE since 1960 always learning something new from you guys and gals.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Vic Rosenthal <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Just like the 1930s vintage Western Electric at WKOP when I worked there in the early 60s. When you turned it on, it went click-click-click-click BLANG.
> Two tubes, 12 kV on the plates, about 1 amp plate current for 5 kW output.
> 
> Victor 4X6GP 
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2020, at 1:45, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?10 KW homebrew FM broadcast TX [not kidding -- KPFK 90.7 Los Angeles in the late 50's, 4 4-1000A's* in parallel driven by a 1 KW stage] had a step-start using mechanical time-delay relays.**  It limited the inrush current to the filter capacitors of the 5.5 KV plate power supply.  It was part of the power supply in the back room, not the PA.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> * I do *not* recommend 4 ea 4-1000A's in parallel at 90.7 MHz. Things got very hot.
>> 
>> ** Integrated circuits and microprocessors has not been invented then.  Actually, the transistor barely had been.
>> 
>>>> On 1/18/2020 10:55 AM, Roger wrote:
>>> NO amplifier needs inrush protection - it is the POWERSUPPLY that needs it
>>> no matter how it is implemented.
>>> So the answer is not an easy "NO" or "YES" but a definite "it depends"!
>>> 
>>> Roger, DL5RBW
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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From kh at kh-translation.dk  Sun Jan 19 06:11:28 2020
From: kh at kh-translation.dk (Kjeld Holm)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:11:28 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Radio interference from Solar Panels
In-Reply-To: <bf2cb738-a5b9-986b-3be5-3d3565d4fece@blomand.net>
References: <bf2cb738-a5b9-986b-3be5-3d3565d4fece@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <VI1PR03MB3808E3BB722C8EDC013BC40B9D330@VI1PR03MB3808.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>

It all depends on make and model. I have had two inverters of different make with no problems. I may also depend on cabling. 

With my first inverter I tried running a twisted pair RS-232 line to my computer. I never got any signals to the computer BUT a lot of noise into my radio. Just unplugged the line at the inverter and all noise disappeared. 

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: 18. januar 2020 19:45
To: Elecraft Reflector; Elecraft-K3 at groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Radio interference from Solar Panels

The Swedish Electrical Safety Agency and the Swedish Energy Agency are investigating radio interference from installations with solar panels

Sweden's national amateur radio society SSA reports:  Solar panels are becoming more and more common.   An increasing problem is that interference can be created to radio reception.   The newsletter (L?NK) from the Swedish Electricity Safety Agency states that they are looking more closely at the inverters and optimizers found in solar panel installations.  The Swedish Electric Safety Authority is doing this together with the Swedish Energy Agency in a project that is ongoing until March 2020.

The Swedish Electricity Safety Agency article is at
https://www.elsakerhetsverket.se/om-oss/press/nyhetsbrev/2019/december/storande-solceller/

Source SSAhttps://tinyurl.com/SwedenSSA


73
Bob, K4TAX

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From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 07:06:48 2020
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:06:48 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>
References: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
	<A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a11b9fdf-45dc-3d7e-6d8e-2c3552dddcaf@gmail.com>


From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 07:10:46 2020
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:10:46 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>
References: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
	<A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bc357a5e-6908-a28b-b774-7e2e84ffa7d8@gmail.com>

The simplest circuit, which I added to my TL922, is a relay operated 
from a DC supply with a capacitor across the coil. The circuit can be 
set up to provide from a fraction of a second to a much longer delay. 
When the relay is de-energized, a small resistance is inserted in series 
with the line to the plate and/or filament transformer. When the relay 
pulls in, the resistor is shorted out and the line is connected directly 
to the transformers.

I set mine up for about half a second, mostly to increase the life of 
the amplifier's on-off switch, and also to provide a more gentle 
start-up for the tube filaments. It has a side benefit of preventing the 
"thump" which sometimes occurs.

The cold resistance of the filaments is very, very low, and the inrush 
current can be very high. As K4TAX said, in a properly designed 
amplifier, the transformer itself limits the inrush current to the 
filaments and the initial charging current of the capacitors in the 
plate supply to a safe value for the tubes, rectifier diodes, and other 
components.

But I have had to replace on-off switches in the similar SB220, which 
means finding the right switch or it looks ugly. And I believe that the 
life of the filament will be longer if it heats up more gradually. In 
the big WE transmitter I mentioned in my previous message, there was a 
five-step switch to turn on the filaments, and I was told to wait about 
a second between steps.

It might be unnecessary, but it was just a few junkbox parts.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

From roger at mulzer.de  Sun Jan 19 08:50:01 2020
From: roger at mulzer.de (Roger)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:50:01 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
	KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <bc357a5e-6908-a28b-b774-7e2e84ffa7d8@gmail.com>
References: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>	<A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>
	<bc357a5e-6908-a28b-b774-7e2e84ffa7d8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d5cecf$58df29b0$0a9d7d10$@mulzer.de>

Life sometimes is not as easy as it seems at first glance...............

The heater inrush current topic is a topic by itself and more complex than
what can be read and heard in most of the ham communities. There used to be
a very good treatment of heater management at the BURLE tube company
homepage. Whether the page is still alive or not I don?t know. If alive you
can learn a lot about the Miller-Larson effect, correct soft start for
heating etc.

What is sure is that especially in the case of the TL-922 the heater inrush
current is up to 10!! times the nominal value just like it is the case with
a cold filament bulb. This value has been measured - the only valid way to
make a technical statement anyway. EIMAC requires the inrush current to be
limited to not more than 3 x nominal value therefore inrush current limiting
is a good idea in case you want maximum tube life. Burned powerswitches as
stated elsewhere in this forum are not uncommon with TL-922s without current
inrush limiting. Another very important factor is heater voltage however
this is another story.

Not only the heater benefits from a smart soft start but also the high
voltage powersupply - especially the diodes and after all the filter
capacitor/s could go bad. It may work for a long time without soft start but
it is no good engineering practice unless very "soft" transformers are used.
This would be a disadvantage at least for the high voltage powersupply.



But coming back to the original question: 

With switching mode powersupplies (as in the KPA500 and 1500 and most of the
solid state amplifiers with ps included) usually no further measures are
necessary or would help in that respect as most  SMPS have soft start
circuits included.



Somebody requested more information on transformers and the magnetizing
mechanism - a good source is the website of any transformer manufacturer.
They usually have pretty good theoretical explanations of this and other
interesting parameters relevant in the world of transformers.

As with many things in ham radio the best thing is to perform measurements
and decide based on the results rather than "feelings" or  "I have heard
from someone who have heard from someone........"

Roger, DL5RBW


-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Victor Rosenthal
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:11 PM
To: David Wilcox
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
KPA500?

The simplest circuit, which I added to my TL922, is a relay operated from a
DC supply with a capacitor across the coil. The circuit can be set up to
provide from a fraction of a second to a much longer delay. 
When the relay is de-energized, a small resistance is inserted in series
with the line to the plate and/or filament transformer. When the relay pulls
in, the resistor is shorted out and the line is connected directly to the
transformers.

I set mine up for about half a second, mostly to increase the life of the
amplifier's on-off switch, and also to provide a more gentle start-up for
the tube filaments. It has a side benefit of preventing the "thump" which
sometimes occurs.

The cold resistance of the filaments is very, very low, and the inrush
current can be very high. As K4TAX said, in a properly designed amplifier,
the transformer itself limits the inrush current to the filaments and the
initial charging current of the capacitors in the plate supply to a safe
value for the tubes, rectifier diodes, and other components.

But I have had to replace on-off switches in the similar SB220, which means
finding the right switch or it looks ugly. And I believe that the life of
the filament will be longer if it heats up more gradually. In the big WE
transmitter I mentioned in my previous message, there was a five-step switch
to turn on the filaments, and I was told to wait about a second between
steps.

It might be unnecessary, but it was just a few junkbox parts.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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From a.durbin at msn.com  Sun Jan 19 09:11:35 2020
From: a.durbin at msn.com (Andy Durbin)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:11:35 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a KPA500?
Message-ID: <BYAPR16MB296844FE551A03FF24F5C15C8C330@BYAPR16MB2968.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

"With switching mode powersupplies (as in the KPA500 and 1500 and most of the solid state amplifiers with ps included) usually no further measures are necessary or would help in that respect as most SMPS have soft start circuits included."

KPA500 nominal 60 V PSU is not a switching mode supply.  About one quarter of the chassis volume is occupied by a toroidal transformer and its output goes to a bridge rectifier.

Andy, k3wyc

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Jan 19 09:24:58 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 08:24:58 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Two Kind of Folks
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR16MB296844FE551A03FF24F5C15C8C330@BYAPR16MB2968.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR16MB296844FE551A03FF24F5C15C8C330@BYAPR16MB2968.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <bce299cd-6de3-219b-cdb2-a3eb62609823@blomand.net>

I find there are two type of folks:?? Those that know what they speak 
about, and those that think they know what they speak about.??? My 
suggestion, try to be in the first group.

73

Bob, K4TAX

> "With switching mode powersupplies (as in the KPA500 and 1500 and most of the solid state amplifiers with ps included) usually no further measures are necessary or would help in that respect as most SMPS have soft start circuits included."
>
> KPA500 nominal 60 V PSU is not a switching mode supply.  About one quarter of the chassis volume is occupied by a toroidal transformer and its output goes to a bridge rectifier.
>


From d.cutter at ntlworld.com  Sun Jan 19 10:18:30 2020
From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (CUTTER DAVID)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 15:18:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
In-Reply-To: <bc357a5e-6908-a28b-b774-7e2e84ffa7d8@gmail.com>
References: <314F555D-AEBE-40D7-BBA0-9F449F68D658@gmail.com>
	<A1AE87FF-5749-4A39-9E95-F3019EBB4676@yahoo.com>
	<bc357a5e-6908-a28b-b774-7e2e84ffa7d8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1314809897.1889102.1579447110454@mail2.virginmedia.com>


From w0xa at arrl.net  Sun Jan 19 11:55:37 2020
From: w0xa at arrl.net (w0xa)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:55:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Book
Message-ID: <1579452937705-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Anyone have this book they would like to sell?

The Elecraft K3 and P3, 3rd Edition by KE7X

Thanks
Kevin
W0XA



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From KY5G at montac.com  Sun Jan 19 12:25:13 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:25:13 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Book
In-Reply-To: <1579452937705-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1579452937705-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <a3a7bdd6-fea5-5d75-0738-5f54485360e5@montac.com>

Sorry, I have the K3s version.....

But the PDF version is only $20.00 - 
http://www.lulu.com/shop/fred-cady-ke7x/the-elecraft-k3-and-p3-3rd-edition-pdf-version/ebook/product-23224151.html

You can actually get it in print if you want: 
http://www.lulu.com/shop/fred-cady-ke7x/the-elecraft-k3-and-p3-3rd-edition/paperback/product-23172859.html

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/19/20 10:55, w0xa wrote:
> Anyone have this book they would like to sell?
>
> The Elecraft K3 and P3, 3rd Edition by KE7X
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
> W0XA

From macymonkeys at charter.net  Sun Jan 19 12:43:20 2020
From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:43:20 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 on AM...
Message-ID: <1BA706EB-F056-4B53-9D37-6AB36A65BB95@charter.net>


One more question then I'll go back into hibernation. What is considered a safe drive level for the KPA500 when operating AM? I haven't tried it yet but I imagine the cooling fan goes into jet takeoff mode. 

Thanks, John K7FD 

From n4zr at comcast.net  Sun Jan 19 21:24:19 2020
From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 21:24:19 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Book
In-Reply-To: <1579452937705-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1579452937705-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <c5d14a75-5426-bd72-5e1c-f9bc6117f4bc@comcast.net>

Dumb question - I have the first edition - is the third edition (not 
K3S, straight K3) significantly different?? When did it come out?

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 1/19/2020 11:55 AM, w0xa wrote:
> Anyone have this book they would like to sell?
>
> The Elecraft K3 and P3, 3rd Edition by KE7X
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
> W0XA
>
>
>
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jan 19 22:31:55 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:31:55 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <ddba955b-9785-8f1f-fc3f-f36cd64c064b@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? Twenty meters had very loud QRN.? A steady roar of about S6 with 
some QSB.? I have received five emails so far complaining of QRM 
blocking my signal.? It did make sending decent code hard too.? For the 
last few weeks CQs start up when I call the net and continue throughout 
them.

 ?? Forty meters was different.? When I first tuned to 7047.5 kHz I 
thought something was wrong.? Twenty meters had been full of QRN while 
forty meters was dead quiet.? I turned back to twenty meters to check 
and it was still noisy.? When I did hear stations it was like I was 
inside a box of cotton batting.? Our Christmas sunspots are only a 
memory.? The solar wind has slowed and the auroral oval is close to the 
magnetic pole.? If we are not at the bottom of this sunspot cycle we 
have to be very close.? More QRM but I did get a relay station to call 
them and gained another few stations for the list too.? Thanks Brian.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K6XK - Roy - IA

NO8V - John - MI


 ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

KC1ACL - Steve - NM

WM5F - Dwight - ID


 ?? The people I worked on 20 meters all mentioned the word blizzard.? 3 
degrees F came up a few times too.? Then we compared our winter 
experiences :)? I once went XC skiing in Wisconsin at -65 degrees F.? It 
was not windy.? It was also not very pleasant. Normally skis ride on a 
layer of water created by the pressure of the skis.? Not this night.? My 
skis were acting like I was on a layer of sandpaper.? Within twenty 
minutes I was back next to the woodstove.

 ?? Until next week stay warm folks,

 ?????? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS

-


From vicd at uwaterloo.ca  Sun Jan 19 22:56:14 2020
From: vicd at uwaterloo.ca (Vic DiCiccio VE3YT)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 20:56:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Book
In-Reply-To: <c5d14a75-5426-bd72-5e1c-f9bc6117f4bc@comcast.net>
References: <1579452937705-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<c5d14a75-5426-bd72-5e1c-f9bc6117f4bc@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1579492574941-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

The third edition of Fred's Elecraft K3 and P3 book became available in 2015. 
It assumes the K3S is already available, and that you might be buying a used
K3 and wondering whether to upgrade it with the KSYN3A, the KIO3B and the
KXV3B.  The book describes how to install these components, and you use
them.  For example, the KIO3B provides USB connection and a "sound card" for
data modes.  If you have these boards in your K3, or are thinking about
getting them, the third edition will serve you well.

73, Vic, VE3YT



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From G0ORH at sky.com  Mon Jan 20 06:48:59 2020
From: G0ORH at sky.com (Ken Chandler)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:48:59 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
References: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A.ref@sky.com>
Message-ID: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A@sky.com>

Hi All.
Anyone have a K3 usb and Raspberry Pi 4 working on WSJT-X! for FT4 mode.
I have a K3 converted to USB
Would be interested in setup etc!
Please share or email me direct if the bandwidth is toooo wide!

Oh, congrats Space-X !!

Regards
Ken.. G0ORH

Sent from my iPad


From w4au.john at gmail.com  Mon Jan 20 08:33:21 2020
From: w4au.john at gmail.com (John Unger)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 08:33:21 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Testing, please ignore
Message-ID: <CAGC=kt_P0+WQkr_VUL3KPiB-+QMeVDTytxnHA0zem_CaeJx44g@mail.gmail.com>

Test.

From kz5d.arts at gmail.com  Mon Jan 20 09:11:22 2020
From: kz5d.arts at gmail.com (Art Suberbielle)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 08:11:22 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 remote CW
Message-ID: <CAJC3qygbO2skAoC7hYQ11EMQknTRYDaKb1AgGZwscFGXWKM-tg@mail.gmail.com>

What provision has been made to send CW when operating remote with the K-4?

73,

Art KZ5D

From dwightanderson at roadrunner.com  Mon Jan 20 10:10:47 2020
From: dwightanderson at roadrunner.com (dwightanderson at roadrunner.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 07:10:47 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
In-Reply-To: <ddba955b-9785-8f1f-fc3f-f36cd64c064b@coho.net>
References: <ddba955b-9785-8f1f-fc3f-f36cd64c064b@coho.net>
Message-ID: <001401d5cfa3$cc10a740$6431f5c0$@roadrunner.com>

Hello Kevin;

Just a note to say thanks to Brian for the relay back to you!

I am looking forward for better band conditions!

Much Regards,
Dwight
WM5F



-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of kevinr
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 7:32 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

Good Evening,

    Twenty meters had very loud QRN.  A steady roar of about S6 with some QSB.  I have received five emails so far complaining of QRM blocking my signal.  It did make sending decent code hard too.  For the last few weeks CQs start up when I call the net and continue throughout them.

    Forty meters was different.  When I first tuned to 7047.5 kHz I thought something was wrong.  Twenty meters had been full of QRN while forty meters was dead quiet.  I turned back to twenty meters to check and it was still noisy.  When I did hear stations it was like I was inside a box of cotton batting.  Our Christmas sunspots are only a memory.  The solar wind has slowed and the auroral oval is close to the magnetic pole.  If we are not at the bottom of this sunspot cycle we have to be very close.  More QRM but I did get a relay station to call them and gained another few stations for the list too.  Thanks Brian.


   On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K6XK - Roy - IA

NO8V - John - MI


   On 7047.5 kHz at 0000z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

KC1ACL - Steve - NM

WM5F - Dwight - ID


    The people I worked on 20 meters all mentioned the word blizzard.  3 degrees F came up a few times too.  Then we compared our winter experiences :)  I once went XC skiing in Wisconsin at -65 degrees F.  It was not windy.  It was also not very pleasant. Normally skis ride on a layer of water created by the pressure of the skis.  Not this night.  My skis were acting like I was on a layer of sandpaper.  Within twenty minutes I was back next to the woodstove.

    Until next week stay warm folks,

        73,  Kevin.  KD5ONS

-

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From rstealey at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 20 10:26:47 2020
From: rstealey at hotmail.com (Rick Stealey)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:26:47 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: 6 meter transverter for K2
Message-ID: <MN2PR07MB6640CEF1826F920A38DD4F91CE320@MN2PR07MB6640.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

XV-50 transverter.  Beautiful condition, with data and rf cables for your K2.
$100, plus $15 shipping.
Or $115 with free shipping (funny guy).

Rick  K2XT

Prefer that you reply to k2xt at arrl.net

From rstealey at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 20 10:30:53 2020
From: rstealey at hotmail.com (Rick Stealey)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:30:53 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meter transverter for K2 -SOLD
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR07MB6640CEF1826F920A38DD4F91CE320@MN2PR07MB6640.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MN2PR07MB6640CEF1826F920A38DD4F91CE320@MN2PR07MB6640.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR07MB6640CFBE4A2C01D1F820EBD0CE320@MN2PR07MB6640.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Oops, no sooner do I post this than I get payment from my ad on qth.
So sorry.
Thanks, Murphy - you never give up do you?

Rick

________________________________
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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 3:26:47 PM
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: 6 meter transverter for K2

XV-50 transverter.  Beautiful condition, with data and rf cables for your K2.
$100, plus $15 shipping.
Or $115 with free shipping (funny guy).

Rick  K2XT

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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Jan 20 10:36:47 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 10:36:47 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 remote CW
In-Reply-To: <CAJC3qygbO2skAoC7hYQ11EMQknTRYDaKb1AgGZwscFGXWKM-tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJC3qygbO2skAoC7hYQ11EMQknTRYDaKb1AgGZwscFGXWKM-tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90BF40FE-7448-426C-89AE-7D63D7EC5930@widomaker.com>

I?ve asked the same question. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 20, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Art Suberbielle <kz5d.arts at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?What provision has been made to send CW when operating remote with the K-4?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Art KZ5D
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From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Jan 20 11:39:46 2020
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:39:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Full Break-In (QSK)
In-Reply-To: <691a0c3d-d492-11cf-a75b-ae1d18dda78f@sdellington.us>
References: <d93cdcec-783e-d16d-9ba9-8e128317e645@sdellington.us>
	<006301d5cd27$aec21030$0c463090$@qrv.com>
	<4b584b1e-d379-0bd4-4616-b5ee29e8dd00@sdellington.us>
	<d8933a5e-6fe6-bdbe-74e4-c70a8142546e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<691a0c3d-d492-11cf-a75b-ae1d18dda78f@sdellington.us>
Message-ID: <1579538386473-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

...and back to original K3 QSK question please.
Anybody tested it?




-----
73 - Petr, OK1RP 
"Apple & Elecraft freak"
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--
Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/

From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Mon Jan 20 11:43:09 2020
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 07:43:09 -0900
Subject: [Elecraft] Ameritron 240V inrush limiter: any benefit on a
 KPA500?
Message-ID: <202001201643.00KGhNGv020053@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>

I used on-rush current limiting series resistors on the 240vac input 
to my 4200 volt transformer and one on the 5v filament of my 8877 
amplifier.  The filament drew normal 11A, so on-rush was 
huge.  Simple resistor-capacitor time constant timer controlled relay 
to short out large 50w and 100w  current-limiting resistors.  Relays 
were 12vdc so a diode rectified the 240vac and I supplied 12v to the 
filament relay ckt from amplifier control panel.

I also had a 100-ohm current limiting resistor on the 4200v PS output 
to protect from HV arc over's.  G3SEK Triode Board was used for bias 
and amplifier over current protection; It provided 5-minute warm-up 
delay for HV to the 8877.

I've retained my 8877 project web-page for information, though it was 
sold in 2018.  Now run only sspa's:  KXPA100, 1000w Harris on 6m, 
1500w W6PQL sspa on 2m, and 600w sspa on 1296.  No more "bangs" when 
HV goes to ground.  SSPA's all use 50v-50A switching PS.

73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   dubususa at gmail.com 


From al7cr at mooseaviation.com  Mon Jan 20 11:55:53 2020
From: al7cr at mooseaviation.com (AL7CR)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 08:55:53 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
In-Reply-To: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A@sky.com>
References: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A.ref@sky.com>
	<B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A@sky.com>
Message-ID: <4cb47b31-14d4-4cc0-9f63-08ad6319fc1f@www.fastmail.com>

I have tried but rig TX control is seriously broken for the K3 in WSJT-X on the Pi.  Online sources all point fingers at each other and I could find no solutions.  Flrig control works perfectly but NOT with WSJT-X.  You might be able to use VOX.

Be ready for a major hassle.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:
> Hi All.
> Anyone have a K3 usb and Raspberry Pi 4 working on WSJT-X! for FT4 mode.
> I have a K3 converted to USB
> Would be interested in setup etc!
> Please share or email me direct if the bandwidth is toooo wide!
> 
> Oh, congrats Space-X !!
> 
> Regards
> Ken.. G0ORH
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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From n7tb at comcast.net  Mon Jan 20 12:43:25 2020
From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 07:43:25 -1000
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
Message-ID: <57151B95-F242-4191-91DA-F3BAB4943CEB@comcast.net>

I have watched many of Eric?s videos on YouTube about the K4 and how easy it will be to operate remotely through its Ethernet port. 

I have a rather naive question, because I?ve not seen much written about this with other rigs.

How would you power up and power down the K4 remotely?  I can?t imagine leaving the rig powered for days on end waiting for remote operation.   

Thanks!

Terry, N7TB 

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Jan 20 13:45:20 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 10:45:20 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
In-Reply-To: <4cb47b31-14d4-4cc0-9f63-08ad6319fc1f@www.fastmail.com>
References: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A.ref@sky.com>
	<B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A@sky.com>
	<4cb47b31-14d4-4cc0-9f63-08ad6319fc1f@www.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <acb6a8c3-f0d4-f98c-56c2-697cddbf7730@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/20/2020 8:55 AM, AL7CR wrote:
> You might be able to use VOX.

VOX is a perfectly good way to key the radio. I've used nothing but VOX 
for SSB, RTTY, and WSJT modes for at least 15 years.

73, Jim K9YC

From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Mon Jan 20 15:28:15 2020
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 13:28:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
In-Reply-To: <acb6a8c3-f0d4-f98c-56c2-697cddbf7730@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A.ref@sky.com>
	<B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A@sky.com> <4cb47b31-14d4-4cc0-9
	f63-08ad6319fc1f@www.fastmail.com>
	<acb6a8c3-f0d4-f98c-56c2-697cddbf7730@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <faf3a0e9-2ba3-192e-7cd1-b4000520ff5b@triconet.org>

So have I, perhaps even longer.? The only downside with Elecraft radios is that 
VOX audio sampling follows the mic/line gain setting and is of course affected 
by them.? Without judicious setting of digital mode line level/sound card 
level/WSJT "power level" settings, there is a nonsensical need to readjust VOX 
gain when changing modes.? A request to remember VOX gain between modes has 
always fallen on deaf ears. With the K4 now the focus, this will never happen.

Wes? N7WS


On 1/20/2020 11:45 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
> VOX is a perfectly good way to key the radio. I've used nothing but VOX for 
> SSB, RTTY, and WSJT modes for at least 15 years.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
> ______________________________________________________________ 


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Mon Jan 20 15:54:47 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 14:54:47 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
In-Reply-To: <faf3a0e9-2ba3-192e-7cd1-b4000520ff5b@triconet.org>
References: <faf3a0e9-2ba3-192e-7cd1-b4000520ff5b@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <A970EA99-8CFB-40AD-A67A-C06F511B6067@blomand.net>

I?ve always used CAT control for PTT with 100% success with all of my software applications.    That way I can switch between SSB and Data and find it not necessary to make any radio adjustments. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Wes <wes_n7ws at triconet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?So have I, perhaps even longer.  The only downside with Elecraft radios is that VOX audio sampling follows the mic/line gain setting and is of course affected by them.  Without judicious setting of digital mode line level/sound card level/WSJT "power level" settings, there is a nonsensical need to readjust VOX gain when changing modes.  A request to remember VOX gain between modes has always fallen on deaf ears. With the K4 now the focus, this will never happen.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> 
>> On 1/20/2020 11:45 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> 
>> VOX is a perfectly good way to key the radio. I've used nothing but VOX for SSB, RTTY, and WSJT modes for at least 15 years.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> ______________________________________________________________ 
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From mike at ve3yf.com  Mon Jan 20 17:15:09 2020
From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 22:15:09 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <57151B95-F242-4191-91DA-F3BAB4943CEB@comcast.net>
References: <57151B95-F242-4191-91DA-F3BAB4943CEB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>

Terry:

I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other 
applications, maybe in the K4 as well.

-- 

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

_/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*


From lee.buller at gmail.com  Mon Jan 20 18:29:45 2020
From: lee.buller at gmail.com (Leroy Buller)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 17:29:45 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
In-Reply-To: <acb6a8c3-f0d4-f98c-56c2-697cddbf7730@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A.ref@sky.com>
	<B616658F-1F3E-4BE2-A60D-F0F1BDFDD46A@sky.com>
	<4cb47b31-14d4-4cc0-9f63-08ad6319fc1f@www.fastmail.com>
	<acb6a8c3-f0d4-f98c-56c2-697cddbf7730@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <CANys+BW3etZsjEVWUU=MpzHYrMUpSXam4bGtQdZK1gRPWLEkMg@mail.gmail.com>

Me too.

Lee K0WA

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, 12:45 PM Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:

> On 1/20/2020 8:55 AM, AL7CR wrote:
> > You might be able to use VOX.
>
> VOX is a perfectly good way to key the radio. I've used nothing but VOX
> for SSB, RTTY, and WSJT modes for at least 15 years.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Jan 20 18:58:02 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 18:58:02 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>
References: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>
Message-ID: <0C7C4492-6095-40C8-B995-5AFECA6932FB@widomaker.com>

I?ve not been too concerned about the radio end. 

But if I?m in a hotel room with only my laptop, other than using client software and keyboard, how to send?  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Terry:
> 
> I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other applications, maybe in the K4 as well.
> 
> -- 
> 
> *73 De Mike*
> *VE3YF
> 
> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
> 
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From lists at subich.com  Mon Jan 20 19:50:55 2020
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:50:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <0C7C4492-6095-40C8-B995-5AFECA6932FB@widomaker.com>
References: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>
	<0C7C4492-6095-40C8-B995-5AFECA6932FB@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>


 >  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.

K1EL Winkeyer used on both ends of the link.  With the
K1EL software, the "operator's" Winkeyer converts the
paddle closures to ASCII.  The ASCII is transferred to
the remote (radio) WinKeyer where it is converted to
key closures ...


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-01-20 6:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> I?ve not been too concerned about the radio end.
> 
> But if I?m in a hotel room with only my laptop, other than using client software and keyboard, how to send?  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Terry:
>>
>> I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other applications, maybe in the K4 as well.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> *73 De Mike*
>> *VE3YF
>>
>> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
>>



From pubx1 at af2z.net  Mon Jan 20 20:57:08 2020
From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 20:57:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
References: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>
	<0C7C4492-6095-40C8-B995-5AFECA6932FB@widomaker.com>
	<d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
Message-ID: <ca995d0b-d785-c4a8-3e23-72fc04eda943@af2z.net>

I hope there will be something for mechanical keys (straight, bug & cootie).

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 01/20/20 19:50, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> 
>  >? I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
> 
> K1EL Winkeyer used on both ends of the link.? With the
> K1EL software, the "operator's" Winkeyer converts the
> paddle closures to ASCII.? The ASCII is transferred to
> the remote (radio) WinKeyer where it is converted to
> key closures ...
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ?? ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2020-01-20 6:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> I?ve not been too concerned about the radio end.
>>
>> But if I?m in a hotel room with only my laptop, other than using 
>> client software and keyboard, how to send?? I?ve not seen any USB to 
>> paddle interface as yet.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Terry:
>>>
>>> I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other 
>>> applications, maybe in the K4 as well.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> *73 De Mike*
>>> *VE3YF
>>>
>>> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
>>>
> 
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From elanzl at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 20 21:15:47 2020
From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 02:15:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB Net for 1-19-2020
References: <1725093194.16774970.1579572947544.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1725093194.16774970.1579572947544@mail.yahoo.com>

Here is the list of stations from the Sunday Net. I want to give a special thank you to Tim KF5AHV who was portable on a pier off Galveston Texas who provided some great relay service. Thank you Tim. 

And thank you to the regular relay stations NC0JW, K!NW, N4NRW, and K05V for your help. The net meets on Sundays at 14.303.5 at 1800Z. unless there is a contest or a major holiday. All are welcome

Elecraft SSB Net ?1-19-2020

WB9JNZ???????????????????? Eric????? IL???????? K3??????????????????? 4017??? Net Control

K8NU/7?????????????????????? Carl???? OH/WA??FT2000?? ??????????????? ?? OPERATING REMOTE 

NC0JW??????????  ???????????Jim ?????CO?? ????KX3??? ? ????????????? 1356???Relay station

KC1ACL????????????????????? Steve?? NM????? KX3??????????????? ? 10677

K1NW???????????????????????? Brian??? RI??????? K3?????????????????? ? 4974?? Relay Station

N4NRW????????? ??????????? Roger? SC?????? K3??????? ????????????? 1318?? Relay station

KO5V????????????????????????? Jim????? NM????? K2/100 ?? ?????????? 7225??Relay station

KF5AHV/M???????????????? Tim????? TX?????? FT 991A?????????????????????? ?Relay station

K9MH????????????????????????? Mark??? IL???????? TS830

AL6U?????????????????????????? Mark??? NV?????? ICOM7300

W7QHD????????????????????? Kurt???? AZ?????? K2/100???????????? ? ?1538

AI6KU???????????????????????? Bob????? CA??????KX3???? ???????? ?? ? 10068

N0MPM????????????????????? Mike??? IA????????K3S???? ?????? ??? ?? 10514

W4DML?????????????????????? Doug?? TN?????? K3??????????????????? ??? 6433

W0XA????????????????????????? Nick???? MN????? K3?????????????????????? 3373

WW4JF?????????????????????? John??? TN?????? K3S???? ???????????? ? 11177

KD8CIV?????????????????????? John??? MI???????KX3???????????????? ???? 4654

NS7P????????????????????????? Phil????? OR????? K3??????????????????? ??? 1826

ZL1PWD???????? ??????????? Peter?? NZ?????? K3??????? ???????????? ???? 139

W2RWA???????????????????? Dick???? NY??????KX3???? ?????????? ??????2603

AE1E???????????? ?????????????Ken????NM?? ????K3S???????????????????11611

N6RDF??????????? ????????? ?Mike???? TX?????? ICOM 7300

KM5ZH/M?????????????????? Bill?????? NM????? Tentec Scout

N2NTQ?????????????????????? Len????? NJ??????K3??????????????????? ???? 5270
KC0EMP???????????????????? unable to copy the rest
73's from WB9JNZ

From na5n at zianet.com  Mon Jan 20 22:55:59 2020
From: na5n at zianet.com (na5n at zianet.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 20:55:59 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <ca995d0b-d785-c4a8-3e23-72fc04eda943@af2z.net>
References: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>
	<0C7C4492-6095-40C8-B995-5AFECA6932FB@widomaker.com>
	<d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
	<ca995d0b-d785-c4a8-3e23-72fc04eda943@af2z.net>
Message-ID: <20200121035559.32639.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>

Drew AF2Z writes:

> I hope there will be something for mechanical keys (straight, bug & cootie).

I worked AF2Z just tonight with his mechanical key (as SKCC K3Y/2) using my  
old straight key and KX2.  Still lots of mechanical CW on the bands.  Use a  
straight key ... no laptop, keyboard, USB or Winlink required.

73, Paul NA5N

From pkiciak at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 05:52:26 2020
From: pkiciak at gmail.com (Paul Kiciak)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:52:26 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
Message-ID: <01075ac8-e289-2d54-b91f-9add650c8a40@gmail.com>


From pkiciak at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 05:53:18 2020
From: pkiciak at gmail.com (Paul Kiciak)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:53:18 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
Message-ID: <50df1fbd-69ff-9117-772a-a51ff6331b72@gmail.com>

I use CAT between my KX3 and Pi 4B and WSJT-X and JTDX running
on the Pi both work fine.

Paul N2PK

From w4au.john at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 11:43:09 2020
From: w4au.john at gmail.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:43:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Hard of hearing, almost deaf K3
Message-ID: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>

 A few days ago one of my K3's appeared to have suddenly gone almost deaf.
Here are some of the symptoms and observations:

- Rig's S meter shows very low or no background noise (strong stations can
still be heard weakly).
- P3 shows <S0 signal strength.
- I can hear strongest stations, they just make it to ~S1.
- Overall effect appears to be similar to having big attenuator in line.
- Problem is antenna independent.
- Rig transmits fine, low SWR, etc.
- Both main and sub receivers have the symptoms.

I've check most "obvious" things: RF gain, etc.,
(but there are a lot of buttons and MENU/CONFIG settings to inadvertently
push on the radio...)

I would appreciate any suggestions of what else to look for or reports of
similar problems from others before I ship it off to Elekraft.

73 and thanks - John, W4AU

From gkidder at ilstu.edu  Tue Jan 21 11:47:47 2020
From: gkidder at ilstu.edu (Kidder, George)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:47:47 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Hard of hearing, almost deaf K3
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0c3bfc3a-64da-7b71-7aaa-2d4d9e7d75f6@ilstu.edu>

Reload config file from when it was working OK.

George, W3HBM

On 1/21/2020 11:43 AM, John Unger wrote:
> [This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to abuse at ilstu.edu<mailto:abuse at ilstu.edu>]
> 
>   A few days ago one of my K3's appeared to have suddenly gone almost deaf.
> Here are some of the symptoms and observations:
> 
> - Rig's S meter shows very low or no background noise (strong stations can
> still be heard weakly).
> - P3 shows <S0 signal strength.
> - I can hear strongest stations, they just make it to ~S1.
> - Overall effect appears to be similar to having big attenuator in line.
> - Problem is antenna independent.
> - Rig transmits fine, low SWR, etc.
> - Both main and sub receivers have the symptoms.
> 
> I've check most "obvious" things: RF gain, etc.,
> (but there are a lot of buttons and MENU/CONFIG settings to inadvertently
> push on the radio...)
> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions of what else to look for or reports of
> similar problems from others before I ship it off to Elekraft.
> 
> 73 and thanks - John, W4AU
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From hs0zed at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 11:49:03 2020
From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:49:03 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] Hard of hearing, almost deaf K3
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE546B9A-D1E4-4E6C-B858-FF0873C8C7C8@gmail.com>

Ant 1/2, RX Ant settings would be first, tuner bypass next maybe. 

If still not good does rf gain fully counterclockwise raise S meter to full scale? 

Ant okay on another rx? 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Jan 2020, at 19:44, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ? A few days ago one of my K3's appeared to have suddenly gone almost deaf.
> Here are some of the symptoms and observations:
> 
> - Rig's S meter shows very low or no background noise (strong stations can
> still be heard weakly).
> - P3 shows <S0 signal strength.
> - I can hear strongest stations, they just make it to ~S1.
> - Overall effect appears to be similar to having big attenuator in line.
> - Problem is antenna independent.
> - Rig transmits fine, low SWR, etc.
> - Both main and sub receivers have the symptoms.
> 
> I've check most "obvious" things: RF gain, etc.,
> (but there are a lot of buttons and MENU/CONFIG settings to inadvertently
> push on the radio...)
> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions of what else to look for or reports of
> similar problems from others before I ship it off to Elekraft.
> 
> 73 and thanks - John, W4AU
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 21 12:13:15 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:13:15 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Hard of hearing, almost deaf K3
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt_6H7xNRnoDgkEHZ9ibY3pEmSKO3GCFHHc-wAW=B8+LXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a3d76b75-ac1a-4c4e-6312-1208a5802f60@embarqmail.com>

John,

Have you checked the antenna feedline and connectors.
Those can often create a "big attenuator".
Try the antenna on another receiver if possible.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/21/2020 11:43 AM, John Unger wrote:
>   A few days ago one of my K3's appeared to have suddenly gone almost deaf.
> Here are some of the symptoms and observations:
> 
> - Rig's S meter shows very low or no background noise (strong stations can
> still be heard weakly).
> - P3 shows <S0 signal strength.
> - I can hear strongest stations, they just make it to ~S1.
> - Overall effect appears to be similar to having big attenuator in line.
> - Problem is antenna independent.
> - Rig transmits fine, low SWR, etc.
> - Both main and sub receivers have the symptoms.
> 

From pubx1 at af2z.net  Tue Jan 21 12:39:37 2020
From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:39:37 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <20200121035559.32639.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>
References: <c2fc8ad1-8842-7ce6-a35b-7aa8019d3df8@ve3yf.com>
	<0C7C4492-6095-40C8-B995-5AFECA6932FB@widomaker.com>
	<d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
	<ca995d0b-d785-c4a8-3e23-72fc04eda943@af2z.net>
	<20200121035559.32639.qmail@modulo.zianet.com>
Message-ID: <49c8af2e-803b-7602-39f8-32f51cccdbcd@af2z.net>

Good to work you, Paul!

Some remote systems accept straight key and faithfully transmit it with 
"personality" intact; some not.

FWIW, I've logged over 1,000 QSOs in the past three weeks as K3Y/2, all 
on my trusty Junker straight key. Some even understood what I was 
sending, hahha...

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 01/20/20 22:55, na5n at zianet.com wrote:
> Drew AF2Z writes:
> 
>> I hope there will be something for mechanical keys (straight, bug & 
>> cootie).
> 
> I worked AF2Z just tonight with his mechanical key (as SKCC K3Y/2) using 
> my old straight key and KX2.? Still lots of mechanical CW on the bands.  
> Use a straight key ... no laptop, keyboard, USB or Winlink required.
> 
> 73, Paul NA5N
> 



From john at kk9a.com  Tue Jan 21 13:17:55 2020
From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:17:55 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Hard of hearing, almost deaf K3
Message-ID: <20200121121755.Horde.ayncvtZDbF0KE66JO08hhBI@www11.qth.com>

Do you have another transceiver that could have blown its front end?   
You did not say that it is band independent, are you sure that you're  
not listening on the RX antenna jack with no antenna connected?

John KK9A



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  A few days ago one of my K3's appeared to have suddenly gone almost deaf.
Here are some of the symptoms and observations:

- Rig's S meter shows very low or no background noise (strong stations can
still be heard weakly).
- P3 shows <S0 signal strength.
- I can hear strongest stations, they just make it to ~S1.
- Overall effect appears to be similar to having big attenuator in line.
- Problem is antenna independent.
- Rig transmits fine, low SWR, etc.
- Both main and sub receivers have the symptoms.

I've check most "obvious" things: RF gain, etc.,
(but there are a lot of buttons and MENU/CONFIG settings to inadvertently
push on the radio...)

I would appreciate any suggestions of what else to look for or reports of
similar problems from others before I ship it off to Elekraft.

73 and thanks - John, W4AU


From al7cr at mooseaviation.com  Tue Jan 21 14:09:58 2020
From: al7cr at mooseaviation.com (AL7CR)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:09:58 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3....s Raspberry Pi 4 B
In-Reply-To: <50df1fbd-69ff-9117-772a-a51ff6331b72@gmail.com>
References: <50df1fbd-69ff-9117-772a-a51ff6331b72@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e810562f-f7cc-43a1-89c1-abfd2d39a0fc@www.fastmail.com>

So do a lot of others but problems are with the K3.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Paul Kiciak wrote:
> I use CAT between my KX3 and Pi 4B and WSJT-X and JTDX running
> on the Pi both work fine.
> 
> Paul N2PK
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From w4au.john at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 14:41:08 2020
From: w4au.john at gmail.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 14:41:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
Message-ID: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to check, but still
no joy...

Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
voltage - 13.6
RX ANT not on
I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
This K3 doesn't have an ATU
Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in received
signals
No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.

I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during the NAQP
CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in the past on
each radio without any front end problems (but there's always the first
time, right?).

Thanks again for the help

73 - John, W4AU

From kc9ee at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 21 14:45:34 2020
From: kc9ee at yahoo.com (Gary Hunt)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 transmit power over shoot solved - PS
References: <277413451.9953888.1579635934960.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <277413451.9953888.1579635934960@mail.yahoo.com>

In case anyone is still having this issue and was following my problem a week or so ago here is what I did to resolve it.>I ran the power gain calibration in the Utility program several times. It was better but not corrected.>I borrowed another K3.? Results were mixed.? That K3 would do it also but not on the same bands.>Hooked up another power supply. Problem virtually solved except on 12 meters.? Not sure why that would have anything to do with it.>Bought a new Astron SS50M. I have not been able to duplicate the issue.? Display on K3 reads 13.9 volts at idle, 13.3 at 110 watts and 13.5 at 26 watts.>I have tried CW, RTTY, FT8, and SSB.
I'm not sure if that is always the solution to the problem but in hind sight I should have suspected the power supply. It is an early 80s Astron RS50M with many thousands of hours.? It was actually ran continuous for 6 or 7 years as part of an RC battery charging set up in a not so hospitable environment.I got my money's worth.
73,
Gary KC9EE

From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 15:43:35 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:43:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CB48B7E-9898-4F30-B4D9-EB25BC21FDA7@gmail.com>

I once spent the better part of a day wondering why my K3 was deaf.  Discovered that every receiver in the shack was also deaf.  Finally found that a surge protector in the antenna chain was bad ? and that happened because every receiver in the shack was also deaf.

Yes, maybe you may have a K3 issue.  But you need a firm way to make sure that you?re actually getting signal to the receiver input.  

Grant NQ5T

> On Jan 21, 2020, at 2:41 PM, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to check, but still
> no joy...
> 
> Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
> voltage - 13.6
> RX ANT not on
> I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
> Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
> My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
> This K3 doesn't have an ATU
> Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in received
> signals
> No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.
> 
> I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during the NAQP
> CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in the past on
> each radio without any front end problems (but there's always the first
> time, right?).
> 
> Thanks again for the help
> 
> 73 - John, W4AU
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jan 21 16:00:44 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:00:44 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <8CB48B7E-9898-4F30-B4D9-EB25BC21FDA7@gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<8CB48B7E-9898-4F30-B4D9-EB25BC21FDA7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4869d545-e07d-213d-45d6-e6076f93e9de@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/21/2020 12:43 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
> I once spent the better part of a day wondering why my K3 was deaf.  Discovered that every receiver in the shack was also deaf.  Finally found that a surge protector in the antenna chain was bad

I've also had that happen here -- a blown GDT in a protector will 
typically be a short circuit, so you'll see high VSWR on transmit.

Another common issue in my station is relay contacts in my system of 
antenna switching -- I'll sometimes need to transmit to "wet" the 
contacts so that they pass the RX signal.

73, Jim K9YC

From bw_dw at fastmail.fm  Tue Jan 21 17:05:09 2020
From: bw_dw at fastmail.fm (bw_dw at fastmail.fm)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:05:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on selling K3s/10
Message-ID: <0f3b476a-1713-44f2-a610-dedea063dcd1@www.fastmail.com>

Hi Gang,
I hope its ok for me to ask this here

I am thinking about selling the K3s/10 - w/K3FLA-400 400hz 8 pole roofing filter
Purchased in 2015 and in excellent condition with original shipping box etc.

Your advice on best platform to post it - and a fair asking price.

Thanks in advance
N1BBR

From hs0zed at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 19:46:37 2020
From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:46:37 +0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCE61886-E5D5-41F5-8E4C-06E1B4D31BFB@gmail.com>

Is the transmit working okay?

Don?t recall if you mentioned before.

My early K3 suffered 0.1uf capacitor failure causing loss of injection which affected both tx and rx. Another cap failure caused loss of tx only due to shorted switching voltage. Both were on the RefOsc board.



Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Jan 2020, at 02:42, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to check, but still
> no joy...
> 
> Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
> voltage - 13.6
> RX ANT not on
> I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
> Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
> My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
> This K3 doesn't have an ATU
> Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in received
> signals
> No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.
> 
> I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during the NAQP
> CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in the past on
> each radio without any front end problems (but there's always the first
> time, right?).
> 
> Thanks again for the help
> 
> 73 - John, W4AU
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From w4au.john at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 20:02:33 2020
From: w4au.john at gmail.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:02:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <CCE61886-E5D5-41F5-8E4C-06E1B4D31BFB@gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CCE61886-E5D5-41F5-8E4C-06E1B4D31BFB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGC=kt8JDVGCjGOTet_MHMOM0vh=X0v5HsBYB-uv2aDjyn1jvg@mail.gmail.com>

Transmit works fine, Martin.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:46 PM Martin Sole <hs0zed at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is the transmit working okay?
>
> Don?t recall if you mentioned before.
>
> My early K3 suffered 0.1uf capacitor failure causing loss of injection
> which affected both tx and rx. Another cap failure caused loss of tx only
> due to shorted switching voltage. Both were on the RefOsc board.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 22 Jan 2020, at 02:42, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to check, but
> still
> > no joy...
> >
> > Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
> > voltage - 13.6
> > RX ANT not on
> > I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
> > Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
> > My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
> > This K3 doesn't have an ATU
> > Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in received
> > signals
> > No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.
> >
> > I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during the NAQP
> > CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in the past
> on
> > each radio without any front end problems (but there's always the first
> > time, right?).
> >
> > Thanks again for the help
> >
> > 73 - John, W4AU
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Elecraft mailing list
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From randyn1kwf at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 21:09:39 2020
From: randyn1kwf at gmail.com (Randy Lake)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:09:39 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3/Microkeyer hookup
Message-ID: <CACnmA1O8aLEbizhLZqBM_xd-VO6YQwt2JLnj1jQPAPFc-EZs5Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have looked at app notes and past listings and cannot for the life of me
get my stuff hooked back up correctly. A bit of guidance would be
appreciated.
Thank you

-- 
Randy Lake N1KWF
73 Gunn Rd.
Keene,NH

From hs0zed at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 21:29:10 2020
From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:29:10 +0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt8JDVGCjGOTet_MHMOM0vh=X0v5HsBYB-uv2aDjyn1jvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CCE61886-E5D5-41F5-8E4C-06E1B4D31BFB@gmail.com>
	<CAGC=kt8JDVGCjGOTet_MHMOM0vh=X0v5HsBYB-uv2aDjyn1jvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ed98ad5b-c17d-c071-e053-6aa163c07853@gmail.com>

I guess if the transmit is working fine (into an antenna) it rules out 
pretty much anything in the common path.

Do you have the KXV3 Tvtr and Rx in/out module? If the switching around 
it is bad you can jumper the BNC connectors. Or try injecting a known 
level into the Rx in port.

If you have exhausted all the usual likely candidates I would be tempted 
to look at the RX switched bias, make sure it is the correct voltage.

What serial number is the radio?


Martin, HS0ZED



On 22/01/2020 04:02, John Unger wrote:
> Transmit works fine, Martin.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:46 PM Martin Sole <hs0zed at gmail.com 
> <mailto:hs0zed at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Is the transmit working okay?
>
>     Don?t recall if you mentioned before.
>
>     My early K3 suffered 0.1uf capacitor failure causing loss of
>     injection which affected both tx and rx. Another cap failure
>     caused loss of tx only due to shorted switching voltage. Both were
>     on the RefOsc board.
>
>
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     > On 22 Jan 2020, at 02:42, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com
>     <mailto:w4au.john at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > ?Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to
>     check, but still
>     > no joy...
>     >
>     > Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
>     > voltage - 13.6
>     > RX ANT not on
>     > I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
>     > Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
>     > My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
>     > This K3 doesn't have an ATU
>     > Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in
>     received
>     > signals
>     > No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.
>     >
>     > I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during
>     the NAQP
>     > CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in
>     the past on
>     > each radio without any front end problems (but there's always
>     the first
>     > time, right?).
>     >
>     > Thanks again for the help
>     >
>     > 73 - John, W4AU
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From carl at n8vz.com  Tue Jan 21 22:02:17 2020
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Carl_J=C3=B3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on selling K3s/10
In-Reply-To: <0f3b476a-1713-44f2-a610-dedea063dcd1@www.fastmail.com>
References: <0f3b476a-1713-44f2-a610-dedea063dcd1@www.fastmail.com>
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    	I?d recommend the QTH.com swap shop. ?73 de Carl N8VZ
    	
    	

    	Sent from my iPhone================================Carl J?n Denbow, Ph.D. Director of Communication Emeritus Ohio University Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine Athens, Ohio 
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On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:07 PM -0500, <bw_dw at fastmail.fm> wrote:










Hi Gang,
I hope its ok for me to ask this here

I am thinking about selling the K3s/10 - w/K3FLA-400 400hz 8 pole roofing filter
Purchased in 2015 and in excellent condition with original shipping box etc.

Your advice on best platform to post it - and a fair asking price.

Thanks in advance
N1BBR
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From bw_dw at fastmail.fm  Tue Jan 21 22:20:13 2020
From: bw_dw at fastmail.fm (bw_dw at fastmail.fm)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 22:20:13 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on selling K3s/10
In-Reply-To: <949986CAEAF701A2.9DF70E5D-42E5-4040-9BB2-581EFAC09DBB@mail.outlook.com>
References: <0f3b476a-1713-44f2-a610-dedea063dcd1@www.fastmail.com>
	<949986CAEAF701A2.9DF70E5D-42E5-4040-9BB2-581EFAC09DBB@mail.outlook.com>
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Thanks Carl!
I'll take a look at that.

BTW: Do you know of anyone who has been able to modify the K3/10 to get a few more watts out of it?

Thanks
Duane

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, at 10:02 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
>  
> I?d recommend the QTH.com swap shop. 73 de Carl N8VZ
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ================================
> Carl J?n Denbow, Ph.D. 
> Director of Communication Emeritus 
> Ohio University 
> Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine 
> Athens, Ohio 
> 
> (740) 591-8471 
> ================================
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:07 PM -0500, <bw_dw at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Gang,
> I hope its ok for me to ask this here
> 
> I am thinking about selling the K3s/10 - w/K3FLA-400 400hz 8 pole roofing filter
> Purchased in 2015 and in excellent condition with original shipping box etc.
> 
> Your advice on best platform to post it - and a fair asking price.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> N1BBR
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From carl at n8vz.com  Tue Jan 21 22:28:53 2020
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Carl_J=C3=B3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:28:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on selling K3s/10
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    	Duane, ?other than installing the Elecraft 100 watt internal amp, no! ;-) ? 73 de Carl N8VZ 
    	
    	

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On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:22 PM -0500, <bw_dw at fastmail.fm> wrote:










Thanks Carl!
I'll take a look at that.

BTW: Do you know of anyone who has been able to modify the K3/10 to get a few more watts out of it?

Thanks
Duane

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, at 10:02 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
>  
> I?d recommend the QTH.com swap shop. 73 de Carl N8VZ
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ================================
> Carl J?n Denbow, Ph.D. 
> Director of Communication Emeritus 
> Ohio University 
> Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine 
> Athens, Ohio 
> 
> (740) 591-8471 
> ================================
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:07 PM -0500,  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Gang,
> I hope its ok for me to ask this here
> 
> I am thinking about selling the K3s/10 - w/K3FLA-400 400hz 8 pole roofing filter
> Purchased in 2015 and in excellent condition with original shipping box etc.
> 
> Your advice on best platform to post it - and a fair asking price.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> N1BBR
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From jackbrindle at me.com  Wed Jan 22 01:34:27 2020
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 22:34:27 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt8JDVGCjGOTet_MHMOM0vh=X0v5HsBYB-uv2aDjyn1jvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt-Dy4s2EmcGOmGpRcm-oVm-WwR7q78bx0S23cp1oPnyTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CCE61886-E5D5-41F5-8E4C-06E1B4D31BFB@gmail.com>
	<CAGC=kt8JDVGCjGOTet_MHMOM0vh=X0v5HsBYB-uv2aDjyn1jvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4053ABE2-600C-49D8-9A54-0218B8CF2942@me.com>

John;

It sounds like it is time to call tech support to see if they can help. They are pretty good at figuring out what happened and how to fix it.
Trying the second K3 in its place, and it works fine, tells me that you may have an issue in the front end. But they will know better.
Good luck getting it working properly!

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 21, 2020, at 5:02 PM, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Transmit works fine, Martin.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:46 PM Martin Sole <hs0zed at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is the transmit working okay?
>> 
>> Don?t recall if you mentioned before.
>> 
>> My early K3 suffered 0.1uf capacitor failure causing loss of injection
>> which affected both tx and rx. Another cap failure caused loss of tx only
>> due to shorted switching voltage. Both were on the RefOsc board.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Jan 2020, at 02:42, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to check, but
>> still
>>> no joy...
>>> 
>>> Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
>>> voltage - 13.6
>>> RX ANT not on
>>> I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
>>> Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
>>> My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
>>> This K3 doesn't have an ATU
>>> Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in received
>>> signals
>>> No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.
>>> 
>>> I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during the NAQP
>>> CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in the past
>> on
>>> each radio without any front end problems (but there's always the first
>>> time, right?).
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for the help
>>> 
>>> 73 - John, W4AU
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From mooneer at gmail.com  Wed Jan 22 02:48:47 2020
From: mooneer at gmail.com (Mooneer Salem)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 23:48:47 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 temperature compensation experience
In-Reply-To: <CAAzDfxOw_u-A_kDcdtw9kfWop0yeZo05KKeHNt0CC5K5r_9aZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAzDfxOw_u-A_kDcdtw9kfWop0yeZo05KKeHNt0CC5K5r_9aZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAzDfxNu=LcKb4b2s-xt_HPppro6Dq1F1ZSVRcyEukUf+MdFbA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Here are some answers to questions that came up after I emailed my initial
post:

*1. How was transmit inhibited on the KX3?*
I set the power output to 0.0W as per the temperature compensation
instructions.

*2. Was any attenuation used during the procedure?*
Yes, a step attenuator set to approximately 40dB.

*3. Which GPSDO was used for the procedure and what is the power
specification of its output?*
https://www.tindie.com/products/nsayer/gps-disciplined-ocxo/. I used the
square wave output, which produced ~1.5Vpp per my oscilloscope prior to
performing the procedure.

Also, I performed some additional experimentation as to which frequency is
the best to perform the reference calibration from. I performed reference
calibration at 10/20MHz (both produced the same result for REF CAL), 30MHz
and 50Mhz and ended up with the following REF CAL numbers and their
frequency differentials:

*10/20MHz:*
*REF CAL:* 114.326.78
*50MHz:* 49.999.970 (-30hz => -0.6ppm)
*30MHz:* 29.999.993 (-07hz => -0.4ppm)
*20MHz:* 20.000.000 (+00hz => +0.0ppm)
*10MHz:* 10.000.000 (+00hz => +0.0ppm)

*30MHz:*
*REF CAL:* 114.326.81
*50MHz:* 49.999.986 (-14hz => -0.3ppm)
*30MHz:* 30.000.000 (+00hz => +0.0ppm)
*20MHz:* 20.000.004 (+04hz => +0.2ppm)
*10MHz:* 10.000.002 (+02hz => +0.2ppm)

*50Mhz:*
*REF CAL: *114.327.85
*50MHz:* 50.000.000 (+00hz => +0.0ppm)
*30MHz:* 30.000.010 (+10hz => +0.3ppm)
*20MHz:* 20.000.012 (+12hz => +0.6ppm)
*10MHz: *10.000.006 (+06hz => +0.6ppm)

Based on the above, performing reference calibration using a 30MHz
signal/harmonic seems to produce the lowest magnitude ppm differences in
frequency across the KX3's range. 50MHz is probably the next best
signal/harmonic to use, especially if one wants to avoid negative
differentials.

Anyway, let me know if you have any additional questions.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ

BTW, I also tried performing reference calibration using a 150MHz signal.
I'm not 100% confident of the values but that seemed to produce the worst
results for HF (bumping up pretty close to Elecraft's 1ppm spec). However,
for those who primarily use it as a transverter input, there may still be
some value in doing so.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:10 PM Mooneer Salem <mooneer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I recently redid temperature compensation on my KX3 using a GPSDO that I
> purchased to see what kind of results I could get. (I last did it a while
> ago with the XG50 and didn't have any complaints about operation afterward,
> but I also pretty much only used 20 meters and below.) Below is what I did
> and what I observed.
>
> *Device info:*
>
> KX3 purchased February 2013 (revision D RF board, S/N in the 3000 range),
> 2 meter, battery charger and roofing filter options installed
> VE7FMN heatsink installed
>
> *Steps performed:*
>
> 1. Warmed up GPSDO (~24h beforehand).
> 2. Warmed up KX3 until OSC temperature stopped climbing (~1h to reach 34C).
> 3. Performed reference calibration at 50.000MHz (5th harmonic of 10MHz
> square wave output) using the automatic method.
> 4. Placed KX3 in fridge for ~1-1.5 hours and set up heating equipment
> (100W incandescent bulb and makeshift box using baking sheets to keep heat
> in).
> 5. Removed KX3, turned it on and began data collection/storage. I also
> started logging using KX3 Utility. (OSC was ~14C at this point.)
> 6. After ~70min or so, stopped data collection at 52C and turned off bulb.
> 7. Reset reference calibration after allowing cooldown.
> 8. Started fldigi in analysis mode and recorded frequency data for ~15
> minutes.
>
> *Discussion:*
>
> See attached. In short, frequency differences vs. temperature seem to be
> linear up until close to the end of calibration, where the frequency starts
> to go back up. The data collected from fldigi also seems to indicate an
> average frequency shift of 0.04ppm at 10MHz, which IMO is perfectly
> acceptable. (For reference, the specs for the Yaesu FT-817's TCXO claim
> 0.5ppm.)
>
> That said, I did notice--as with others in previous posts to the various
> Elecraft/KX3 lists--that the signal is significantly shifted on 6 meters
> when performing the second reference calibration based on a HF signal (and
> vice versa). However, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference
> regardless of where one calibrates on HF. For me, since I don't do much
> operating on 6 meters, I kept the 10MHz based reference calibration. It
> would be nice if one could set a separate reference frequency for 6m/2m vs.
> HF so that the radio can be right on frequency regardless of where it's
> being used.
>
> Also, I haven't tried transmitting with the new calibration yet, but given
> that I didn't have any problems with the digital modes I commonly use in
> the past, I don't expect any issues now. I did find
> http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/KX3HeatSinks.htm before doing this,
> which (a) indicated that there's a newer version of the RF board and (b)
> required board modifications to get the oscillator to be stable enough for
> all but JT65A on 6 meters. I'm not planning on modding my own KX3 in this
> manner, but out of curiosity, is there a RF board newer than revision D (as
> indicated in the schematics document on Elecraft's site)?
>
> Anyway, let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything with
> the methodology I could have done better. Offhand, calculating and setting
> ppm offsets in fldigi might improve the frequency analysis a little bit,
> though I don't know if it'd be by enough to matter much. Not to mention
> doing a temperature compensation with the XG50 again to see how much a
> GPSDO truly adds.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
>
>
>

From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Jan 22 05:04:52 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 05:04:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
References: <d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
Message-ID: <0ACEAC76-9127-4E18-B5E3-A72674CFB41C@widomaker.com>

What to plug Winkeyer into at the radio end?  The K4 is connected to Ethernet, no a computer. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 20, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> >  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
> 
> K1EL Winkeyer used on both ends of the link.  With the
> K1EL software, the "operator's" Winkeyer converts the
> paddle closures to ASCII.  The ASCII is transferred to
> the remote (radio) WinKeyer where it is converted to
> key closures ...
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
>> On 2020-01-20 6:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> I?ve not been too concerned about the radio end.
>> But if I?m in a hotel room with only my laptop, other than using client software and keyboard, how to send?  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Terry:
>>> 
>>> I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other applications, maybe in the K4 as well.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> *73 De Mike*
>>> *VE3YF
>>> 
>>> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
>>> 
> 
> 
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Jan 22 05:06:24 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 05:06:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Hard of Hearing
In-Reply-To: <4053ABE2-600C-49D8-9A54-0218B8CF2942@me.com>
References: <4053ABE2-600C-49D8-9A54-0218B8CF2942@me.com>
Message-ID: <1AF3DF37-22A1-491E-9CC2-43A2E470D7CB@widomaker.com>

I think that time was several days ago!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 22, 2020, at 1:36 AM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> ?John;
> 
> It sounds like it is time to call tech support to see if they can help. They are pretty good at figuring out what happened and how to fix it.
> Trying the second K3 in its place, and it works fine, tells me that you may have an issue in the front end. But they will know better.
> Good luck getting it working properly!
> 
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2020, at 5:02 PM, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Transmit works fine, Martin.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:46 PM Martin Sole <hs0zed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is the transmit working okay?
>>> 
>>> Don?t recall if you mentioned before.
>>> 
>>> My early K3 suffered 0.1uf capacitor failure causing loss of injection
>>> which affected both tx and rx. Another cap failure caused loss of tx only
>>> due to shorted switching voltage. Both were on the RefOsc board.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 22 Jan 2020, at 02:42, John Unger <w4au.john at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Wow, guys, thank you all for the suggestions of things to check, but
>>> still
>>>> no joy...
>>>> 
>>>> Here's your suggestions that I have checked:
>>>> voltage - 13.6
>>>> RX ANT not on
>>>> I uploaded a couple of old config files - not change
>>>> Turning RF GAIN fully CCW puts SWR meter at full scale
>>>> My other K3 hears FB on all the antennas
>>>> This K3 doesn't have an ATU
>>>> Switching an antenna in and out makes no apparent difference in received
>>>> signals
>>>> No change in BP filters; they have been working fine for long time.
>>>> 
>>>> I do operate SO2R. The last time radio was working OK was during the NAQP
>>>> CW contest where I was running 100W. I have operated KW amps in the past
>>> on
>>>> each radio without any front end problems (but there's always the first
>>>> time, right?).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again for the help
>>>> 
>>>> 73 - John, W4AU
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> 
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From randyn1kwf at gmail.com  Wed Jan 22 06:25:24 2020
From: randyn1kwf at gmail.com (Randy Lake)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 06:25:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3/Microkeyer DB9 connections
Message-ID: <CACnmA1Nngw1OnE8ve8eOfcyc59R0gxsQjgpLyiR=A9w3fMeZ8Q@mail.gmail.com>

I will add that I only need the DB9 hookup. Microham RS232 to P3 (PC)?
Then P3 (TXVR) to K3 RS232 ?

I have looked at app notes and past listings and cannot for the life of me
get my stuff hooked back up correctly. A bit of guidance would be
appreciated.
Thank you


-- 
Randy Lake N1KWF
73 Gunn Rd.
Keene,NH

From lists at subich.com  Wed Jan 22 07:21:38 2020
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:21:38 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3/Microkeyer DB9 connections
In-Reply-To: <CACnmA1Nngw1OnE8ve8eOfcyc59R0gxsQjgpLyiR=A9w3fMeZ8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACnmA1Nngw1OnE8ve8eOfcyc59R0gxsQjgpLyiR=A9w3fMeZ8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd708f2a-bf11-9bec-9407-d3ae8b3dbc96@subich.com>

On 2020-01-22 6:25 AM, Randy Lake wrote:
 > I will add that I only need the DB9 hookup. Microham RS232 to P3 (PC)?
 > Then P3 (TXVR) to K3 RS232 ?

Yes.


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-01-22 6:25 AM, Randy Lake wrote:
> I will add that I only need the DB9 hookup. Microham RS232 to P3 (PC)?
> Then P3 (TXVR) to K3 RS232 ?
> 
> I have looked at app notes and past listings and cannot for the life of me
> get my stuff hooked back up correctly. A bit of guidance would be
> appreciated.
> Thank you
> 
> 

From john at kk9a.com  Wed Jan 22 07:22:34 2020
From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 06:22:34 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3/Microkeyer hookup
Message-ID: <20200122062234.Horde.xokI2SYWR0FAopTqeKbfuih@www11.qth.com>

I do not own a Microkeyer but I do have several DigiKeyer II's that I  
use for FSK and CW. My MicroHam cables are clearly marked where to  
plug them into a K3/K3S.  I move my transceivers around a number of  
times a year, the markings have made setup quite easy. If you do not  
have MicroHam cables, making and labeling your homebrew cables as  
shown in this schematic should help:   
https://www.microham.com/Downloads/DB37-EL-K3.pdf . The Elecraft  
manual will show how to add a P3 to the mix.

John KK9A


Randy Lake N1KNF wrote:

I have looked at app notes and past listings and cannot for the life of me
get my stuff hooked back up correctly. A bit of guidance would be
appreciated.
Thank you

-- 
Randy Lake N1KWF
73 Gunn Rd.
Keene,NH


From lladerman at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 23 08:28:25 2020
From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 06:28:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on selling K3s/10
In-Reply-To: <408a9ee0-913d-4a6a-9e5d-ebf054a4d929@www.fastmail.com>
References: <0f3b476a-1713-44f2-a610-dedea063dcd1@www.fastmail.com>
	<949986CAEAF701A2.9DF70E5D-42E5-4040-9BB2-581EFAC09DBB@mail.outlook.com>
	<408a9ee0-913d-4a6a-9e5d-ebf054a4d929@www.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <1579786105546-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Also consider eHam and the swapmeet forum on qrz.com. Both of those also have
older ads archived where you can search for prior sales of k3?s in their
numerous configurations and figure out your asking price. If you post on
qrz.com, pay attention to the posting guidelines. 

Other places to consider is the k3 group at groups.io and here. Although not
technically ?swap sites? there have been many for sale or wanted posts over
the years. EBay is also out there although it?s not my preferred listing
site for lots or reasons. 

Good luck!

73, Lou, W0FK 



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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Thu Jan 23 19:10:35 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 19:10:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 on AM...
In-Reply-To: <1BA706EB-F056-4B53-9D37-6AB36A65BB95@charter.net>
References: <1BA706EB-F056-4B53-9D37-6AB36A65BB95@charter.net>
Message-ID: <9a2d9ca7-04ba-f65b-d5fa-9b9517688f2c@embarqmail.com>

John,

The KPA500 is rated for 500 watts PEP.
With AM, that is 250 watts carrier, and 250 watts of sideband energy 
(125 watts for each sideband).  So your "talk power" is 125 watts, 
compared to 500 watts SSB.

Note that is for 10 minutes transmit with a 5 minute receive period.  If 
you are "long winded" and want to exceed that 10 minutes keydown, you 
should reduce the power.

See the specifications.  If you want to exceed the specification limits, 
you do so at your own peril, although the KPA500 has means to protect 
itself.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 1/19/2020 12:43 PM, Macy monkeys wrote:
> 
> One more question then I'll go back into hibernation. What is considered a safe drive level for the KPA500 when operating AM? I haven't tried it yet but I imagine the cooling fan goes into jet takeoff mode.
> 
> Thanks, John K7FD

From k9ma at sdellington.us  Thu Jan 23 19:59:44 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:59:44 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 on AM...
In-Reply-To: <9a2d9ca7-04ba-f65b-d5fa-9b9517688f2c@embarqmail.com>
References: <1BA706EB-F056-4B53-9D37-6AB36A65BB95@charter.net>
	<9a2d9ca7-04ba-f65b-d5fa-9b9517688f2c@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <6cc459db-276a-692f-1690-247d25115c5e@sdellington.us>

Isn't peak power for AM 4 times the average (carrier) power?

73,

Scott K9MA


On 1/23/2020 18:10, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> John,
>
> The KPA500 is rated for 500 watts PEP.
> With AM, that is 250 watts carrier, and 250 watts of sideband energy 
> (125 watts for each sideband).? So your "talk power" is 125 watts, 
> compared to 500 watts SSB.
>
> Note that is for 10 minutes transmit with a 5 minute receive period.? 
> If you are "long winded" and want to exceed that 10 minutes keydown, 
> you should reduce the power.
>
> See the specifications.? If you want to exceed the specification 
> limits, you do so at your own peril, although the KPA500 has means to 
> protect itself.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 1/19/2020 12:43 PM, Macy monkeys wrote:
>>
>> One more question then I'll go back into hibernation. What is 
>> considered a safe drive level for the KPA500 when operating AM? I 
>> haven't tried it yet but I imagine the cooling fan goes into jet 
>> takeoff mode.
>>
>> Thanks, John K7FD
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Thu Jan 23 20:30:24 2020
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 20:30:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 on AM...
In-Reply-To: <6cc459db-276a-692f-1690-247d25115c5e@sdellington.us>
References: <1BA706EB-F056-4B53-9D37-6AB36A65BB95@charter.net>
	<9a2d9ca7-04ba-f65b-d5fa-9b9517688f2c@embarqmail.com>
	<6cc459db-276a-692f-1690-247d25115c5e@sdellington.us>
Message-ID: <B23825FC-DCAE-4193-95B3-F6183391A047@gmail.com>

Yes.  You wouldn?t want to run a KPA500 at any more than around 125W carrier output.  Maybe a bit less to give you some headroom.  At 250W carrier the KPA500 would be pushed way beyond ratings on AM.

Grant NQ5T

> On Jan 23, 2020, at 7:59 PM, K9MA <k9ma at sdellington.us> wrote:
> 
> Isn't peak power for AM 4 times the average (carrier) power?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott K9MA
> 
> 
> On 1/23/2020 18:10, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> John,
>> 
>> The KPA500 is rated for 500 watts PEP.
>> With AM, that is 250 watts carrier, and 250 watts of sideband energy (125 watts for each sideband).  So your "talk power" is 125 watts, compared to 500 watts SSB.
>> 
>> Note that is for 10 minutes transmit with a 5 minute receive period.  If you are "long winded" and want to exceed that 10 minutes keydown, you should reduce the power.
>> 
>> See the specifications.  If you want to exceed the specification limits, you do so at your own peril, although the KPA500 has means to protect itself.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/19/2020 12:43 PM, Macy monkeys wrote:
>>> 
>>> One more question then I'll go back into hibernation. What is considered a safe drive level for the KPA500 when operating AM? I haven't tried it yet but I imagine the cooling fan goes into jet takeoff mode.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, John K7FD
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jan 23 21:38:27 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:38:27 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend  -- brief introduction
Message-ID: <15DE5F5F-E0B7-4616-985C-E9EF7ABB308B@elecraft.com>

Time to break out the portable rigs and snow-shoes, everyone: it's Winter Field Day, 2020. 

I was reminded of this by Bonnie, KQ6XA. She forwarded some info from the WFDA (Winter Field Day Association), repeated below.

I'm embarrassed to report that we've lost our Winter here in the Bay Area, with temperatures of about 60 F both Saturday and Sunday. Nonetheless, we'll bundle up and break out the chemical hand warmers in solidarity with our more northerly and easterly peers. 

I'll be using the KX2. See you on the air--

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

Winter Field Day Association 

https://www.winterfieldday.com/

"Winter Field Day Association (WFDA) is a dedicated group of Amateur Radio Operators who believe that emergency communications in a winter environment is just as important as the preparations and practice that is done each summer but with some additional unique operational concerns.
 
"We believe as do those entities of ARRL Organizations like ARES & RACES that maintaining your operational skills should not be limited to fair weather scenarios. The addition of Winter Field Day will enhance those already important skills of those that who generously volunteer their time and equipment to these organizations. This is why WFD is open to all licensed amateur radio operators worldwide.
 
"Disasters are unpredictable by nature and can strike when you least expect them. WFDA's goal is to help enhance your skills and ready you for all environmental conditions found in the US and Canada during the spring, summer, fall and winter Preparedness is the key to a professional and timely response during any event and this is what local and state authorities are expecting when they reach  out to the emergency service groups that offer their services.
 
"If you are serious about emergency communications as we are; we welcome you to join us for our yearly event. We are sure you will find this event a pleasant change and challenge to that of a normal summer time field day."

"FT8 Notes: WFD has always had an Ecomm emphasis, even back when SPAR sponsored it.. We waited for FT8 2.0, hoping it would be more flexible as we were told it would be, but were disappointed that the new release would NOT do the WFD Exchange as it currently stands. That alone rules out using FT8 for WFD. Also, its ability to carry any emergency message is near nil... try sending "SOS - HMS TITANIC - HIT ICE - SINKING - 82.566N 34.713W". Almost any other mode can send that (or the WFD Exchange). Getting a message through bad conditions is great.. but getting only a grid square and a signal report is hardly a message of value to Ecomms. When FT8 can do the WFD exchange verbatim, as written in the rules, it'll become part of WFD. That has been the consensus of the WFDA board for some time... We are not anti-FT8. The ARRL did not change any rules in its contests to allow FT8... FT8 developers changed what it could send to fit a few ARRL contest exchanges. PS... There are a few folks talking about using JS8Call... you might want to try that. It works similarly to FT8, but is far more robust in what it can send and receive"





From hillslaird at internode.on.net  Thu Jan 23 23:20:33 2020
From: hillslaird at internode.on.net (Kev Schache)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:50:33 +1030
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KPA100/KAT100
Message-ID: <24b2b60c-3a54-988f-347b-42d7fb9b506f@internode.on.net>

I'm confined to operating from home due to age restraints but I'm also 
the very proud builder/owner of a K2 and a separate EC2 cased KPA100 and 
KAT100 - along the lines of W3DVX 'twins'.?? In addition to that combo, 
I'm also the proud owner of a KX3 which seems to be developing a 
yearning for 100W.

I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used the KPA100/KAT100 with the 
KX3 ?? Is that practical or is that simply not feasible ??

Any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks and 73,

Kev???? VK5KS ?? ex vk3zka


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jan 24 00:54:43 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 21:54:43 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction
In-Reply-To: <15DE5F5F-E0B7-4616-985C-E9EF7ABB308B@elecraft.com>
References: <15DE5F5F-E0B7-4616-985C-E9EF7ABB308B@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/23/2020 6:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> I'm embarrassed to report that we've lost our Winter here in the Bay Area

As a refugee from Chicago, I can state with certainty that there is no 
such thing as "winter" in the Bay Area. What happens here from Dec to 
Mar would be described in the Midwest as "early summer."

73, Jim K9YC

From w0mu at w0mu.com  Fri Jan 24 01:29:32 2020
From: w0mu at w0mu.com (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 23:29:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <0ACEAC76-9127-4E18-B5E3-A72674CFB41C@widomaker.com>
References: <d3af0c34-3720-cff9-cf6d-f72ddfc6d092@subich.com>
	<0ACEAC76-9127-4E18-B5E3-A72674CFB41C@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <29037607-f275-7428-ac27-569cdb23f7eb@w0mu.com>

The keyer would be hooked into the keyer/paddle jack?

On 1/22/2020 3:04 AM, Nr4c wrote:
> What to plug Winkeyer into at the radio end?  The K4 is connected to Ethernet, no a computer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>>   I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
>> K1EL Winkeyer used on both ends of the link.  With the
>> K1EL software, the "operator's" Winkeyer converts the
>> paddle closures to ASCII.  The ASCII is transferred to
>> the remote (radio) WinKeyer where it is converted to
>> key closures ...
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>> On 2020-01-20 6:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> I?ve not been too concerned about the radio end.
>>> But if I?m in a hotel room with only my laptop, other than using client software and keyboard, how to send?  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
>>>> ?Terry:
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other applications, maybe in the K4 as well.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> *73 De Mike*
>>>> *VE3YF
>>>>
>>>> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
>>>>
>>
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Fri Jan 24 04:20:40 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 04:20:40 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Operation of K4
In-Reply-To: <29037607-f275-7428-ac27-569cdb23f7eb@w0mu.com>
References: <29037607-f275-7428-ac27-569cdb23f7eb@w0mu.com>
Message-ID: <AE6D1539-94D4-4A02-9B7E-B464B860CFB8@widomaker.com>

But where does the USB plug into. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 24, 2020, at 1:31 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
> 
> ?The keyer would be hooked into the keyer/paddle jack?
> 
>> On 1/22/2020 3:04 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> What to plug Winkeyer into at the radio end?  The K4 is connected to Ethernet, no a computer.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>>>  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
>>> K1EL Winkeyer used on both ends of the link.  With the
>>> K1EL software, the "operator's" Winkeyer converts the
>>> paddle closures to ASCII.  The ASCII is transferred to
>>> the remote (radio) WinKeyer where it is converted to
>>> key closures ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2020-01-20 6:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>>>> I?ve not been too concerned about the radio end.
>>>> But if I?m in a hotel room with only my laptop, other than using client software and keyboard, how to send?  I?ve not seen any USB to paddle interface as yet.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
>>>>> ?Terry:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am thinking "Wakeup on Lan". That feature is used in other applications, maybe in the K4 as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *73 De Mike*
>>>>> *VE3YF
>>>>> 
>>>>> _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*
>>>>> 
>>> 
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 05:17:59 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 05:17:59 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction
In-Reply-To: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <A9D88850-1152-42C6-97D2-06B360196693@yahoo.com>

Here in St Augustine, FL it will be in the 70?s and windy.  The SAARS club will be putting on winter FD at the EOC.  Anyone close please drop in and join us.

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> ?On 1/23/2020 6:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> I'm embarrassed to report that we've lost our Winter here in the Bay Area
> 
> As a refugee from Chicago, I can state with certainty that there is no such thing as "winter" in the Bay Area. What happens here from Dec to Mar would be described in the Midwest as "early summer."
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 05:17:59 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 05:17:59 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction
In-Reply-To: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <A9D88850-1152-42C6-97D2-06B360196693@yahoo.com>

Here in St Augustine, FL it will be in the 70?s and windy.  The SAARS club will be putting on winter FD at the EOC.  Anyone close please drop in and join us.

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> ?On 1/23/2020 6:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> I'm embarrassed to report that we've lost our Winter here in the Bay Area
> 
> As a refugee from Chicago, I can state with certainty that there is no such thing as "winter" in the Bay Area. What happens here from Dec to Mar would be described in the Midwest as "early summer."
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From ns9i at bayland.net  Fri Jan 24 05:38:06 2020
From: ns9i at bayland.net (dgb)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 05:38:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction
In-Reply-To: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <15DE5F5F-E0B7-4616-985C-E9EF7ABB308B@elecraft.com>
	<d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <16fdf639-4d60-570d-d435-a60f05f70b1f@bayland.net>

... and here in Franklin, western NC we'll be using our ancient K3 with 
mild temps

73 Dwight NS9I

On 1/24/2020 12:54 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 1/23/2020 6:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> I'm embarrassed to report that we've lost our Winter here in the Bay 
>> Area
>
> As a refugee from Chicago, I can state with certainty that there is no 
> such thing as "winter" in the Bay Area. What happens here from Dec to 
> Mar would be described in the Midwest as "early summer."
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Jan 24 08:39:30 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 08:39:30 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KPA100/KAT100
In-Reply-To: <24b2b60c-3a54-988f-347b-42d7fb9b506f@internode.on.net>
References: <24b2b60c-3a54-988f-347b-42d7fb9b506f@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <185e64ae-5b0a-26cc-531a-52378bf13ffb@embarqmail.com>

Kev,

Sorry, but that will not work.  The KPA100/KAT100 needs internal signals 
from the K2.  Those signals are not available from the KX3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/23/2020 11:20 PM, Kev Schache wrote:
> I'm confined to operating from home due to age restraints but I'm also 
> the very proud builder/owner of a K2 and a separate EC2 cased KPA100 and 
> KAT100 - along the lines of W3DVX 'twins'.?? In addition to that combo, 
> I'm also the proud owner of a KX3 which seems to be developing a 
> yearning for 100W.
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used the KPA100/KAT100 with the 
> KX3 ?? Is that practical or is that simply not feasible ??
> 

From dave at nk7z.net  Fri Jan 24 10:01:30 2020
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 07:01:30 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
Message-ID: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>

Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked knobs?
-- 
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Jan 24 10:28:32 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:28:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>
References: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <c166c078-4db9-5267-0a63-286d06204ed9@embarqmail.com>

Dave,

I would suggest removing the knobs and clean them with dish washing 
liquid, water and an old toothbrush.
Dry fully before putting them back on the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/24/2020 10:01 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked knobs?

From dave at w8fgu.com  Fri Jan 24 10:34:14 2020
From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:34:14 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <c166c078-4db9-5267-0a63-286d06204ed9@embarqmail.com>
References: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>
	<c166c078-4db9-5267-0a63-286d06204ed9@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <emf92d5e66-7d83-484b-a761-6f17189527f7@w8fgu-desktop>

Dave,

+1 on Don's suggestion. I usually use some warm water and a mild dish 
soap and let the knobs soak for awhile. Then I use a soft toothbrush to 
remove any crud. I have done a whole bunch of K1 & K2 knobs like this 
and it always works pretty well.

73,
Dave, W8FGU


On 1/24/2020 10:28:32 AM, "Don Wilhelm" <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

>Dave,
>
>I would suggest removing the knobs and clean them with dish washing liquid, water and an old toothbrush.
>Dry fully before putting them back on the K3.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 1/24/2020 10:01 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
>>Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked knobs?
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From dave at nk7z.net  Fri Jan 24 10:47:30 2020
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 07:47:30 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <c166c078-4db9-5267-0a63-286d06204ed9@embarqmail.com>
References: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>
	<c166c078-4db9-5267-0a63-286d06204ed9@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <8f05cf63-6c85-7eb3-7925-0cd0232cf62b@nk7z.net>

Thanks to both of you!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/24/20 7:28 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> I would suggest removing the knobs and clean them with dish washing 
> liquid, water and an old toothbrush.
> Dry fully before putting them back on the K3.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 1/24/2020 10:01 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked 
>> knobs?

From w3tb.ted at gmail.com  Fri Jan 24 10:58:59 2020
From: w3tb.ted at gmail.com (Ted Edwards W3TB)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 09:58:59 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD function buttons
Message-ID: <CAGhFmTjDSnUWSkLLvfKhFi8XqkHyeaaAK6wNBVdbeH6DARxVAA@mail.gmail.com>

Elecraft's directions are usually very clear, but I am missing something
about encoding buttons on the K-POD.

I put my desired functions coding into the K3 Utility, but I don't see how
to apply them from the Utility to the radio where the function buttons on
the K3 imitate.  What am I missing?

Thanking you ahead of time for good help with this.

-- 
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."

From n8sbe at arrl.net  Fri Jan 24 11:27:18 2020
From: n8sbe at arrl.net (Dave New, N8SBE)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 09:27:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction
Message-ID: <20200124092718.1fa1e31b6b6b329ecc65be958babcc1f.7b29132c26.wbe@email09.godaddy.com>


From alan at wilcoxengineering.com  Fri Jan 24 14:59:25 2020
From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Legacy Tuneups, Rescue, Build Services
Message-ID: <CC538D2A-E1D4-4645-8813-0FA1D2CE156E@wilcoxengineering.com>

Hello,

Does your K2 need repair? Tuneup?
Want to sell it, but it needs some attention before offering it for sale? 

In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago.

See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at 
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 

Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure --  are at
https://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ 

Cheers,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-916-9590 (cell, text)
http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox
Williamsport, PA 17701


From jh3sif at sumaq.jp  Fri Jan 24 15:27:38 2020
From: jh3sif at sumaq.jp (Keith Onishi)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 05:27:38 +0900
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD function buttons
In-Reply-To: <CAGhFmTjDSnUWSkLLvfKhFi8XqkHyeaaAK6wNBVdbeH6DARxVAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGhFmTjDSnUWSkLLvfKhFi8XqkHyeaaAK6wNBVdbeH6DARxVAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C13E5CD-AF25-414D-9C7B-59F7E634F6C1@sumaq.jp>

Page 6 of KPOD Owner?s Manual says;

Macros are launched at the K-Pod using tap and hold presses of switches F1 through F8 just as you tap
and hold front panel switches on your K3S/K3:
 - Holding switches F1 through F8 for 1/2 second or more launches K3S/K3 macros 1 through 8.
 - Tapping switches F1 through F8 (holding for less than 1/2 second) launches K3S/K3 macros 9
through 16.

73 de JH3SIF, Keith

> 2020/01/25 0:58?Ted Edwards W3TB <w3tb.ted at gmail.com>????:
> 
> Elecraft's directions are usually very clear, but I am missing something
> about encoding buttons on the K-POD.
> 
> I put my desired functions coding into the K3 Utility, but I don't see how
> to apply them from the Utility to the radio where the function buttons on
> the K3 imitate.  What am I missing?
> 
> Thanking you ahead of time for good help with this.
> 
> -- 
> 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW
> 
> and thinking about operating CW:
> "Do today what others won't,
> so you can do tomorrow what others can't."
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From alee at aaronosaur.us  Fri Jan 24 16:04:59 2020
From: alee at aaronosaur.us (Aaron Lee)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:04:59 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction
In-Reply-To: <d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <15DE5F5F-E0B7-4616-985C-E9EF7ABB308B@elecraft.com>
	<d2acc1b2-ecbf-ceca-01e6-2542c688151e@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <ea423db9-5e4d-4a01-815c-fe2adccba986@www.fastmail.com>

You missed some fun last year, the low was ~0F at K9CU's site in Urbana. During setup it was in the upper teens with a 10 mph wind, which taught us just how stiff the cold can make coax and fingers. My friend managed to get a dipole into a tree but I settled for a small vertical clamped to the roof rack of my Forester. I worked from the back seat with my KX3 and a tablet on a lap desk, occasionally running the engine to get some heat into the car. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54171525 at N00/46850021342/

Tomorrow the forecast is for a balmy 32 with only an inch of snow.

73, Aaron - AC9OH

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 1/23/2020 6:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > I'm embarrassed to report that we've lost our Winter here in the Bay Area
> 
> As a refugee from Chicago, I can state with certainty that there is no 
> such thing as "winter" in the Bay Area. What happens here from Dec to 
> Mar would be described in the Midwest as "early summer."
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From drzarkof56 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 24 16:08:57 2020
From: drzarkof56 at yahoo.com (Doug Millar)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and ALS1306 Amplifier ALC
References: <1484241242.11285726.1579900137499.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1484241242.11285726.1579900137499@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, I need some help. I have a K3, the DB9 interface cable and an ALS (MFJ)1306 amplifier. I need to know if the amplifier handles power fold back for SWR by itself or needs to connect to the K3. Question 2 is whether the cable allows this.? I know there is a setting in the K3 for external ALC control. 
???? What is the proper way to set it up and provide ALC and SWR foldback? 
?????? Many thanks in advance,?? Doug K6JEY


 

From dave at w8fgu.com  Fri Jan 24 17:05:04 2020
From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:05:04 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Fixed Audio Output Boards
In-Reply-To: <emce0ce31d-186a-4193-9e4d-61413ed4ac8a@w8fgu-desktop>
References: <emce0ce31d-186a-4193-9e4d-61413ed4ac8a@w8fgu-desktop>
Message-ID: <em5d32817c-7b7a-43ae-9a53-20f8c48d5f00@w8fgu-desktop>

List comrades,

I am again stocked with K2 Fixed Audio Output Board kits as of 
yesterday. If you placed an order in the last 10 days or so, it shipped 
out this morning. You should see it is a few days.

Thanks for everyone's patience in waiting for more stock.

73,
Dave, W8FGU


On 1/15/2020 11:05:32 AM, "Dave Van Wallaghen" <dave at w8fgu.com> wrote:

>Folks, I'm down to my last couple of K2 Fixed Audio Output Boards in stock: https://www.w8fgu.com/k2_fixedaudio.html
>
>If there is still considerable interest in obtaining one, I would need to order more parts to make up another batch. So, I'm reaching out here to see if there is enough interest for me to invest in more stock. Please email me off list if you would be interested in purchasing one of these kits.
>
>To keep the noise down on the list, please email me privately.
>
>73,
>Dave, W8FGU
>
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Fri Jan 24 17:38:57 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 16:38:57 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and ALS1306 Amplifier ALC
In-Reply-To: <1484241242.11285726.1579900137499@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1484241242.11285726.1579900137499.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1484241242.11285726.1579900137499@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cac77617-76ec-a984-0bab-02bbafd5beda@blomand.net>

Doug:

The remote and radio band data connectors are specialized connections. 
They are for use with Ameritron supplied cables only.? DB-DB15HE

I did see that the HV power supplies do have current limiting which 
would imply there is some protection from excessive current based on 
load impedance.?? And I DID NOT see any specific values related to SWR 
power fold back conditions.?? Usually SWR values of 1.5:1? or less are 
generally satisfactory.?? As stated in the manual, PA failures are 
generally attributed to excessive SWR values.

Regarding ALC, there is provision for ALC to be supplied from the 
amplifier to the transceiver.? I would CAUTION that the set-up of ALC in 
this configuration must be done absolutely correctly. Otherwise,? ALC 
should not be active at power values less than 1200 watts into a 50 ohm 
resistive dummy load.?? Antenna loads and impedance's will vary and may 
or can cause ALC action at less than 1200 watts rated power.?? Most will 
recommend that ALC not be used between the amplifier and the transceiver.

The transceiver does allow a power per band setting and I strongly 
suggest using this method for power control.? Again, setting the correct 
drive to produce 1200 watts into a 50 ohm resistive dummy load is the 
absolute correct and maximum drive for the specific amplifier and 
band.?? Drive power? from band to band will be somewhat different 
values.??? Adjustment of the MIC gain for correct ALC indication on the 
transceiver is imperative.?? If you desire more punch, use the Speech 
Processor or Compression and do not advance the MIC gain for more ALC 
action.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/24/2020 3:08 PM, Doug Millar via Elecraft wrote:
> Hi, I need some help. I have a K3, the DB9 interface cable and an ALS (MFJ)1306 amplifier. I need to know if the amplifier handles power fold back for SWR by itself or needs to connect to the K3. Question 2 is whether the cable allows this.? I know there is a setting in the K3 for external ALC control.
>  ???? What is the proper way to set it up and provide ALC and SWR foldback?
>  ?????? Many thanks in advance,?? Doug K6JEY
>
>
>   
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From KY5G at montac.com  Fri Jan 24 23:45:50 2020
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:45:50 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>
References: <0f117b32-4189-98a4-b731-1f89dff42794@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <afa1e58c-90b3-5c08-931b-13277488a18d@montac.com>

UNinstall the knobs CAREFULLY.? Wash in warm water with Dawn dishwashing 
liquid and perhaps a toothbrush if soaking doesn't work.

Use compressed air to make double sure they are dry before 
re-installation.? Be CAREFUL with the set screws...

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/24/20 09:01, Dave Cole wrote:
> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked 
> knobs?

From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 25 06:00:49 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 06:00:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <afa1e58c-90b3-5c08-931b-13277488a18d@montac.com>
References: <afa1e58c-90b3-5c08-931b-13277488a18d@montac.com>
Message-ID: <8B6AD1C3-5304-4808-9ADB-DE7935595353@yahoo.com>

Who lets their knobs get dirty?  Wash you hands first!  Some of mine are from the early days of NorCal and Elecraft.  Maybe I don?t have much oil on my skin! Ha!  I have bought some used gear from the 1950?s and 60?s and sprayed them with WD40.  Rub til clean.  Then dish soap and toothbrush if needed to get the WD40 off.  That is knobs from the boxes under the tables at swaps...... some vendors never figured out that I would pay more for a clean rig or parts. 

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> ?UNinstall the knobs CAREFULLY.  Wash in warm water with Dawn dishwashing liquid and perhaps a toothbrush if soaking doesn't work.
> 
> Use compressed air to make double sure they are dry before re-installation.  Be CAREFUL with the set screws...
> 
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> 
>> On 01/24/20 09:01, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked knobs?
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From djwilcox01 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 25 06:00:49 2020
From: djwilcox01 at yahoo.com (David Wilcox)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 06:00:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <afa1e58c-90b3-5c08-931b-13277488a18d@montac.com>
References: <afa1e58c-90b3-5c08-931b-13277488a18d@montac.com>
Message-ID: <8B6AD1C3-5304-4808-9ADB-DE7935595353@yahoo.com>

Who lets their knobs get dirty?  Wash you hands first!  Some of mine are from the early days of NorCal and Elecraft.  Maybe I don?t have much oil on my skin! Ha!  I have bought some used gear from the 1950?s and 60?s and sprayed them with WD40.  Rub til clean.  Then dish soap and toothbrush if needed to get the WD40 off.  That is knobs from the boxes under the tables at swaps...... some vendors never figured out that I would pay more for a clean rig or parts. 

David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> ?UNinstall the knobs CAREFULLY.  Wash in warm water with Dawn dishwashing liquid and perhaps a toothbrush if soaking doesn't work.
> 
> Use compressed air to make double sure they are dry before re-installation.  Be CAREFUL with the set screws...
> 
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> 
>> On 01/24/20 09:01, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked knobs?
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From foxfive.vjc at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 07:26:08 2020
From: foxfive.vjc at gmail.com (F5vjc)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:26:08 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Cleaning old black knobs on K3
In-Reply-To: <8B6AD1C3-5304-4808-9ADB-DE7935595353@yahoo.com>
References: <afa1e58c-90b3-5c08-931b-13277488a18d@montac.com>
	<8B6AD1C3-5304-4808-9ADB-DE7935595353@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABuWoS9tqc+rvbYXh3eZSAvrGz+T5W8on6MYS5Xa_1qh9HK5HA@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed . who has a rig with dirty knobs!


On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 12:02, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Who lets their knobs get dirty?  Wash you hands first!  Some of mine are
> from the early days of NorCal and Elecraft.  Maybe I don?t have much oil on
> my skin! Ha!  I have bought some used gear from the 1950?s and 60?s and
> sprayed them with WD40.  Rub til clean.  Then dish soap and toothbrush if
> needed to get the WD40 off.  That is knobs from the boxes under the tables
> at swaps...... some vendors never figured out that I would pay more for a
> clean rig or parts.
>
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE?s iPad
>
> > On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?UNinstall the knobs CAREFULLY.  Wash in warm water with Dawn
> dishwashing liquid and perhaps a toothbrush if soaking doesn't work.
> >
> > Use compressed air to make double sure they are dry before
> re-installation.  Be CAREFUL with the set screws...
> >
> > ______________________
> > Clay Autery, KY5G
> > (318) 518-1389
> >
> >> On 01/24/20 09:01, Dave Cole wrote:
> >> Any suggestions for the best cleaner for the old black screw locked
> knobs?
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sat Jan 25 12:05:52 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 09:05:52 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Final reminder (WFD)
Message-ID: <B17EFF4E-B238-4A96-8A85-87B9C3B16DCD@elecraft.com>

Today:  www.winterfieldday.com

Happy trails...stay warm.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Sat Jan 25 14:41:07 2020
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 10:41:07 -0900
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KPA100/KAT100
Message-ID: <202001251947.00PJlKfU002095@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>

At first I read KXPA100, not KPA100.  Of course the KXPA100 was 
designed to be a companion  to the KX3.

I have one and drive it with either my KX3 or K3/10 (10w version of the K3).

I suppose one could build an interface from KX3 to KPA100.  Basic 
need would be PTT, RF drive, and Band switching.

Years ago, I bought the 100w PA module for a HF mobile with  thoughts 
to make a "cheap 100w amp".  Never got around to it.

I did build some CCI HF kits (300w and 140w) but finally decided on 
the KXPA100/KXTA100 combo.
http://www.kl7uw.com/fs.htm

KX3+KXPA100 works nice in my mobile on HF/6m.  http://www.kl7uw.com/Mobile.htm


73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   dubususa at gmail.com 


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan 25 15:23:13 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 15:23:13 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with KPA100/KAT100
In-Reply-To: <202001251947.00PJlKfU002095@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <202001251947.00PJlKfU002095@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <5edf7987-b7e6-ae6f-8e04-cd5a6f43372b@embarqmail.com>

Ed and all,

It is more complicated than "build an interface".

The KPA100 and KAT100 depend on internal signals in the K2 for proper 
operation.
The first is '12CTRL' which is used to tell the KPA100 that the K2 has 
12 volts present.
Second is '8R' which tells the KPA100 that the K2 has been put into 
transmit.
I will admit that those 2 above could be 'dummied up' by a 12 volt "ON" 
switch and 'PTT'.  But there are other critical signals that are not 
possible except with the K2 base.

The first of those is the 'AUXBUS' which is necessary for the KPA100 and 
KAT100 firmware to operate.  This 'one wire' signal is the main signal 
to communicate among the various firmware processors in the K2 system. 
It includes band data as well as PA temperature, fan state, current 
indication, fan speed control, control of the KPA100 T/R state, TUNE 
power and KAT100 tuning control, detection of actual power output over 
the VRFDET line so the K2 firmware can control the power output.  It is 
also necessary to calculate the SWR as well as measuring the actual 
power output and feeding that information to the base K2 firmware for 
drive power control.

Those latter signal lines would be quite impossible to drag out of a 
KX3, yet they are essential to the proper operation of the KPA100/KAT100.

If one were to redesign the hardware and firmware of the KPA100 and 
KAT100, it may be possible to run them as a standalone amplifier and 
tuner, but given the magnitude of the task, selling the KPA100/KAT100 
and using the money to buy a KXPA100 and KXAT100 would be the best way 
to make a 100 watt system for the KX3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2020 2:41 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> At first I read KXPA100, not KPA100.? Of course the KXPA100 was designed 
> to be a companion? to the KX3.
> 
> I have one and drive it with either my KX3 or K3/10 (10w version of the 
> K3).
> 
> I suppose one could build an interface from KX3 to KPA100.? Basic need 
> would be PTT, RF drive, and Band switching.
> 

From richarddnnr2 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 16:51:03 2020
From: richarddnnr2 at gmail.com (Richard Donner)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:51:03 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for
	a k3
Message-ID: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!

What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.

Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Jan 25 17:00:58 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 16:00:58 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
	for a k3
In-Reply-To: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81D7792B-A434-4183-B5ED-FEE8AAE4A34D@blomand.net>

Elecraft has cables that work. Also RT Systems have good cables.  Beware of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.  Some ?others? may work and some may not thus contributing to issues. 

Get the good ones and forget the cheap ones. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Richard Donner <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi
>   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
> 
> What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
> If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
> 
> Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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From richarddnnr2 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 17:11:05 2020
From: richarddnnr2 at gmail.com (Richard Donner)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 14:11:05 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
In-Reply-To: <81D7792B-A434-4183-B5ED-FEE8AAE4A34D@blomand.net>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<81D7792B-A434-4183-B5ED-FEE8AAE4A34D@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <CAMRhQ7KG7bHtQMhrd3+0J_qV=7jXYtioqv8GY8vPr_pjonOwSg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everyone
 Wow I got many responses,    Bob, Ray, Max,
Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
73 Richard    wa6kyr

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:01 PM Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
wrote:

> Elecraft has cables that work. Also RT Systems have good cables.  Beware
> of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.  Some ?others? may work and
> some may not thus contributing to issues.
>
> Get the good ones and forget the cheap ones.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Richard Donner <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi
> >   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
> >
> > What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
> > If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
> >
> > Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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From richarddnnr2 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 17:13:28 2020
From: richarddnnr2 at gmail.com (Richard Donner)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 14:13:28 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for
	a k3
Message-ID: <CAMRhQ7+hKeWkUt=ARSMvgV+a+Wi+_1LDvHSivtdFyTXuH40L5g@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for the replies.   Looks like one less issue to fuss with?
Richard

From k9gs at gjschwartz.com  Sat Jan 25 17:19:50 2020
From: k9gs at gjschwartz.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 16:19:50 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
In-Reply-To: <81D7792B-A434-4183-B5ED-FEE8AAE4A34D@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.505.1579990827.13233.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

I have had very good luck with the Sabrent brand, available from Amazon.?Be sure to get the FTDI chipset.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> Date: 1/25/20  4:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Richard Donner <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com> Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 	for a k3 Elecraft has cables that work. Also RT Systems have good cables.? Beware of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.? Some ?others? may work and some may not thus contributing to issues. Get the good ones and forget the cheap ones. Bob, K4TAXSent from my iPhone> On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Richard Donner <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:> > ?Hi>?? I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!> > What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.> If you know? exactly where to purchase it that would help.> > Thanks Richard?? Wa6kyr> ______________________________________________________________> Elecraft mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to rmcgraw at blomand.net > ______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k9gs at gjschwartz.com 

From john at kk9a.com  Sat Jan 25 18:18:31 2020
From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 17:18:31 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
Message-ID: <20200125171831.Horde.XZPzxd5VCWBxpc4Kbks0Z2d@www11.qth.com>

You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the  
Elecraft website.

John KK9A

Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:

Thanks everyone
  Wow I got many responses,    Bob, Ray, Max,
Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
73 Richard    wa6kyr


From rocketnj at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 19:00:24 2020
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:00:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
	for a k3
In-Reply-To: <20200125171831.Horde.XZPzxd5VCWBxpc4Kbks0Z2d@www11.qth.com>
References: <20200125171831.Horde.XZPzxd5VCWBxpc4Kbks0Z2d@www11.qth.com>
Message-ID: <639A8071-59DC-4A34-9DEF-FD8E32493867@gmail.com>

I ordered my KXUSB-A cable from DX Engineering. Closer to me, faster shipping.

I see you have a 6 area call. If you are in CA then ordering from Elecraft should be faster. For those of us on the east coast there are alternatives.

Dave wo2x


Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:20 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> ?You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the Elecraft website.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone
> Wow I got many responses,    Bob, Ray, Max,
> Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
> 73 Richard    wa6kyr
> 
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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sat Jan 25 19:13:05 2020
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 17:13:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 fora k3
In-Reply-To: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>

Good advice from others, however, if you think you might need other serial ports 
for other devices, I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters.? Easily 
found on the auction site (which doesn't seem to run many auctions these days).

Wes? N7WS


On 1/25/2020 2:51 PM, Richard Donner wrote:
> Hi
>     I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
>
> What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
> If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
>
> Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
> ______________________________________________________________


From k3ndm at comcast.net  Sat Jan 25 19:16:57 2020
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 00:16:57 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
	for a k3
In-Reply-To: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <em0ba2466b-6bd8-4c31-8902-f75252388125@laptop3>

Try Elecraft. That's where I got mine.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Richard Donner" <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com>
To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 1/25/2020 4:51:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable 
for a k3

>Hi
>    I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
>
>What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
>If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
>
>Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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From john at kk9a.com  Sat Jan 25 19:37:22 2020
From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:37:22 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
In-Reply-To: <639A8071-59DC-4A34-9DEF-FD8E32493867@gmail.com>
References: <20200125171831.Horde.XZPzxd5VCWBxpc4Kbks0Z2d@www11.qth.com>
	<639A8071-59DC-4A34-9DEF-FD8E32493867@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC1O_BjdKmrpvR-YFmL14vU2EufvWGMNsN4KjJvqB-o9oxtGtQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you order something else with the KUSB from DX Engineering you can also
get free shipping!

John KK9A

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy 7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone.


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:00 PM Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:

> I ordered my KXUSB-A cable from DX Engineering. Closer to me, faster
> shipping.
>
> I see you have a 6 area call. If you are in CA then ordering from Elecraft
> should be faster. For those of us on the east coast there are alternatives.
>
> Dave wo2x
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:20 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >
> > ?You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the Elecraft
> website.
> >
> > John KK9A
> >
> > Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:
> >
> > Thanks everyone
> > Wow I got many responses,    Bob, Ray, Max,
> > Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
> > 73 Richard    wa6kyr
> >
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From n6jpa.1 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 19:40:05 2020
From: n6jpa.1 at gmail.com (Keith N6JPA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 16:40:05 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
In-Reply-To: <81D7792B-A434-4183-B5ED-FEE8AAE4A34D@blomand.net>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<81D7792B-A434-4183-B5ED-FEE8AAE4A34D@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <c9c7a6f3-93ef-174b-3e79-9187ec6278cc@gmail.com>

Even the so-called FTDI cables on NewEgg, eBay and Amazon are imitations 
that fail. The best place is through a amateur radio dealer for us hams. 
I used to sell the PL-2303 USB>Serial cables and had to watch out for 
imitations that didn't work from wholesalers.


On 1/25/2020 2:00 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> Beware of cables which do not use the FTDI chipset.

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Jan 25 20:50:12 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 17:50:12 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 fora k3
In-Reply-To: <1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <71d0dd56-5bc6-6c95-215f-4606a63d649c@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:
> I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters.

YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple 
configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a 
second one (with more ports) to have as a spare.

73, Jim K9YC

From 99sunset at gmail.com  Sat Jan 25 21:26:25 2020
From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:26:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend
Message-ID: <CALdUqNNKa4m-fhCc1qiJGq8Xq63iM+FG7q6m1TcKMALSx4JHtA@mail.gmail.com>

Wayne's message about winter field day reminds me of my first winter field
day, in southern California.  It was about 78 degrees in the park with a
large group.  I got to play with my first Elecraft rig, a K3.  I was sold.
I immediately sold my marginal FTdx1200 and got a K3, KPA500, KAT500 and
P3.

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Jan 25 21:55:03 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:55:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 fora k3
In-Reply-To: <71d0dd56-5bc6-6c95-215f-4606a63d649c@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
	<71d0dd56-5bc6-6c95-215f-4606a63d649c@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <0e98b59f-5514-6065-b1f8-466bf2c73789@embarqmail.com>

I can also recommend the Edgeport USB to serial converters.  They are 
designed for commercial use rather than consumer.  I have 2 of the 4 
port adapters.  One for the home station computer and the other for use 
with the laptop when I am working away from the home station.  The 
latter will serve as a replacement should one fail, but they are sturdy 
devices and not prone to failure.

To run the KX2/KX3/XG3 from a serial port, you can use the KXSER adapter 
from Elecraft, or build your own from the schematic shown near the end 
of the XG3 manual.

I would rather use the Edgeport instead of a USB hub should you run 
short on USB ports.  My shack desktop computer has 6, 2 of which are 
taken up by the keyboard and mouse, and 1 for an external USB soundcard. 
  That leaves only 3 for the ham gear, and one of those is for the 
Edgeport and another the KXUSB for my KX-Line - leaves only one USB port 
for other uses.  My laptop has only 2 USB ports available, so I use the 
Edgeport-4 to run all the RS-232 devices that will accept that signalling.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2020 8:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:
>> I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters.
> 
> YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple 
> configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a 
> second one (with more ports) to have as a spare.
> 

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Jan 25 21:57:32 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 20:57:32 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend
In-Reply-To: <CALdUqNNKa4m-fhCc1qiJGq8Xq63iM+FG7q6m1TcKMALSx4JHtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdUqNNKa4m-fhCc1qiJGq8Xq63iM+FG7q6m1TcKMALSx4JHtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a7b0d9c5-7b80-9666-b097-d2d2049b91c9@blomand.net>

I worked several stations this afternoon during Winter Field Day. ? I 
found several precisely on 7.175 MHz on LSB. ? In checking calls, I 
found several with a General Class license and one with a Technician 
class license. ? The point being, the LSB modulation was out of the band 
for their license class.??? OOPS!

And of course I noted several others on the band that seemed to 
understand and follow the technique of "all knobs fully to the right" 
for the event.?? In one case, the station as displayed on my P3 had 
about as much modulation on the USB as the LSB, complete with lip 
smacks, nasal noise, and breath inhale sounds. Pitiful.

73

Bob, K4TAX



From ky5g at montac.com  Sat Jan 25 22:07:01 2020
From: ky5g at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:07:01 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 fora k3
In-Reply-To: <71d0dd56-5bc6-6c95-215f-4606a63d649c@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <23ef2d30-caf6-47ff-bc5b-41e5487060a2@localhost>

 
 
I can also verify that the VSCOM serial boxes work....    I have this 8 port one, and it greatly simplifies my cabling in the station.    They have all different types and port#s...
 

 
http://www.vscom.de/usb-8com-plus.html
 

 
73,
 
Clay, KY5G
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
>  
> On Jan 25, 2020 at 19:51, Jim Brown  <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>  wrote:
>  
>  
>  On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:  >  I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters. YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a second one (with more ports) to have as a spare. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com 
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sat Jan 25 22:31:50 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 22:31:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
	fora k3
In-Reply-To: <23ef2d30-caf6-47ff-bc5b-41e5487060a2@localhost>
References: <23ef2d30-caf6-47ff-bc5b-41e5487060a2@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A966B36-B93F-426E-AB1D-2B55B3AB3F87@widomaker.com>

I have great results using the KUSB from Rlecraft bits not one of the ?Low Price? variety, but uses the FTDI chipset and has worked for everything I needed one for. 

They are so good, that one usually grows ?legs? at Field Day most every year and I just replace it each July.  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 25, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Clay Autery <KY5G at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> I can also verify that the VSCOM serial boxes work....    I have this 8 port one, and it greatly simplifies my cabling in the station.    They have all different types and port#s...
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.vscom.de/usb-8com-plus.html
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Clay, KY5G
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2020 at 19:51, Jim Brown  <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/25/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:  >  I highly recommend Edgeport USB to serial adapters. YES! These are industrial quality products, come in multiple configurations. I'm using one with two ports in my station, and bought a second one (with more ports) to have as a spare. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com 
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sat Jan 25 23:01:49 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 20:01:49 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <f87acb3c-6089-d542-be28-2791511762c0@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? I took advantage of the current break in the rain to hike along the 
less muddy areas of my newly thinned forest.? Lots of firewood for me to 
collect and a lot more sky.? When I got to a lower area on the NW corner 
I heard running water.? The intermittent stream was flowing.? A number 
of new ponds and a few small waterfalls.? Come springtime there will be 
a competition between the normally rare mosquitoes and the more common 
frogs. Hopefully the frogs will get fat and breed like crazy.? Not as 
many tracks as I had hoped but it has been raining around an inch a day 
or more so tracks don't last long.? I did find a few elk prints and more 
from deer.? I am not used to being able to see so far.? It is much 
easier to see the rolling topography.? In a few years the trees should 
recognize their new environment and grow like crazy.

 ? A new sunspot popped up today.? Its polarity shows it is from cycle 
24.? The solar flux index remains stuck in the low 70s.? It has been a 
very long time since it has gotten higher than 73.? The auroral oval 
also shows light solar wind activity.? The QSB should be about the same 
as last week.? Hopefully I won't have to dodge CQs tomorrow.? But be 
ready to move net frequency to lessen interference.? It is tough to run 
the net when I cannot hear anyone and they can't hear me over the QRM.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday? (2 PM PST Sunday)
 ?7047 kHz at 0000z Monday? (4 PM PST Sunday)

73,

 ?? Kevin. KD5ONS

-


Seal up the ship-boy's eyes, and rock his brains
In cradle of the rude imperious surge,
And in the visitation of the winds,
Who take the ruffian billows by the top,
Curling their monstrous heads, and hanging them
With deafing clamour in the slippery clouds,
That with the hurly death itself awakes?

Canst thou, O partial sleep, give thy repose
To the wet sea-boy in an hour so rude;
And in the calmest and most stillest night,
With all appliances and means to boot,
Deny it to a king?


From macymonkeys at charter.net  Sat Jan 25 23:19:50 2020
From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 20:19:50 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend
In-Reply-To: <a7b0d9c5-7b80-9666-b097-d2d2049b91c9@blomand.net>
References: <CALdUqNNKa4m-fhCc1qiJGq8Xq63iM+FG7q6m1TcKMALSx4JHtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<a7b0d9c5-7b80-9666-b097-d2d2049b91c9@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <B427210C-F00E-405D-B966-BE4D0306D2D2@charter.net>


...I even heard one '10-4.'

But I'll admit he was wall-to-wall and tree-top tall ;)

John K7FD



> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> I worked several stations this afternoon during Winter Field Day.   I found several precisely on 7.175 MHz on LSB.   In checking calls, I found several with a General Class license and one with a Technician class license.   The point being, the LSB modulation was out of the band for their license class.    OOPS!
> 
> And of course I noted several others on the band that seemed to understand and follow the technique of "all knobs fully to the right" for the event.   In one case, the station as displayed on my P3 had about as much modulation on the USB as the LSB, complete with lip smacks, nasal noise, and breath inhale sounds. Pitiful.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
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From n6tv at arrl.net  Sun Jan 26 00:54:45 2020
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:54:45 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
In-Reply-To: <CAMRhQ7+hKeWkUt=ARSMvgV+a+Wi+_1LDvHSivtdFyTXuH40L5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMRhQ7+hKeWkUt=ARSMvgV+a+Wi+_1LDvHSivtdFyTXuH40L5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKG+yEZawBw2wPdM9SBrfm75kJks2iOteQnDQ+bXtJQm7gw@mail.gmail.com>

See also my Contest University presentation, "Everything You Need to Know
About USB and Serial Interfaces" (https://bit.ly/USBserial) for photos of
these adpaters plus tips on managing all those virtual serial ports.
There's a link to this and other presentations on my QRZ.COM page (
https://www.qrz.com/db/n6tv).

A genuine FTDI USB-to-Serial adapter is built into the S-BOX-USB (or two of
them in S-BOX-USB-2).  The S-BOX-USB models can be used to drive a K3, KX2
or KX3 using standard cables, no soldering needed.  You can even get the
equivalent of the K3S menu setting "CONFIG:RTS-DTR PTT-KEY" for a KX2 or
KX3.  That is, you get rig control plus computer-generated PTT and CW
keying over a single USB cable when using an S-BOX-USB to connect the PC to
the transceiver.

Finally, many folks have used the standard S-BOX (no USB) with a K3S + P3 +
CBLP3Y to split the serial data in the Elecraft Y-cable to a SteppIR
antenna controller or similar.

More info. at the links below.

73,
Bob, N6TV
https://bit.ly/S-BOX
https://bit.ly/Y-BOX

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:14 PM Richard Donner <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for the replies.   Looks like one less issue to fuss with?
> Richard

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Jan 26 11:54:37 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:54:37 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter field day -- memorable QSO
Message-ID: <CCFB044D-8900-428C-93A6-15A90971B4FE@elecraft.com>

My son and I hiked a few miles into Henry Coe state park yesterday, setting up a winter FD station (KX2) at a spot overlooking an idyllic pond full of bullfrogs. The weather was, ironically, just about perfect: 60 F, no wind, blue skies. I regret that we weren't able to share the pain of those who experienced more winterish conditions.

For an antenna, I tossed 20 feet of wire into an oak tree. When I hooked it up to the rig I was pleased to find many FD stations on both CW and SSB. Seems that this event is reaching critical mass.

One of my favorite things to do during ARRL FD is to make a few RTTY contacts, using the keyer paddle on the rig and letting the radio do the conversion to FSK. (The K3/K3S, KX2, and KX3 all have this feature.) While I didn't find any  winter FD stations operating RTTY, I did find JA6ZPR on 14.083 operating in a BARTG contest. 

Given that I was running only 10 W to a low random wire, I was surprised when he came right back to me. This is a new QRP RTTY DX record for me, and I'll note that the QSO was not computer-mediated in any way ;)

On the drive home we stopped at the Anderson reservoir overlook and were rewarded with two nearly simultaneous nature sitings. First we saw a brightly colored kestrel perched atop a tree near the water's edge. Then, seconds later, a bobcat appeared on the other side of the road. My son is an avid photographer and was able to get great shots of both.

To me this just proves the benefit of having two Field Days per year -- more time outdoors, more chance to "re-wild" amateur radio. I hope there's even greater participation in WFD in the future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


From marvwheeler at nwlink.com  Sun Jan 26 13:41:17 2020
From: marvwheeler at nwlink.com (marvwheeler at nwlink.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 10:41:17 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter field day -- memorable QSO
In-Reply-To: <CCFB044D-8900-428C-93A6-15A90971B4FE@elecraft.com>
References: <CCFB044D-8900-428C-93A6-15A90971B4FE@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <000001d5d478$324340d0$96c9c270$@nwlink.com>

Wayn3:

Sounds like you had a great time.

In addition to having more time outdoors, more chance to "re-wild" amateur
radio it also give you more time to spend with you son. Those times are the
most important because they are fleeting and once gone are unrecoverable.

73
Marv

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 8:55 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Winter field day -- memorable QSO

My son and I hiked a few miles into Henry Coe state park yesterday, setting
up a winter FD station (KX2) at a spot overlooking an idyllic pond full of
bullfrogs. The weather was, ironically, just about perfect: 60 F, no wind,
blue skies. I regret that we weren't able to share the pain of those who
experienced more winterish conditions.

For an antenna, I tossed 20 feet of wire into an oak tree. When I hooked it
up to the rig I was pleased to find many FD stations on both CW and SSB.
Seems that this event is reaching critical mass.

One of my favorite things to do during ARRL FD is to make a few RTTY
contacts, using the keyer paddle on the rig and letting the radio do the
conversion to FSK. (The K3/K3S, KX2, and KX3 all have this feature.) While I
didn't find any  winter FD stations operating RTTY, I did find JA6ZPR on
14.083 operating in a BARTG contest. 

Given that I was running only 10 W to a low random wire, I was surprised
when he came right back to me. This is a new QRP RTTY DX record for me, and
I'll note that the QSO was not computer-mediated in any way ;)

On the drive home we stopped at the Anderson reservoir overlook and were
rewarded with two nearly simultaneous nature sitings. First we saw a
brightly colored kestrel perched atop a tree near the water's edge. Then,
seconds later, a bobcat appeared on the other side of the road. My son is an
avid photographer and was able to get great shots of both.

To me this just proves the benefit of having two Field Days per year -- more
time outdoors, more chance to "re-wild" amateur radio. I hope there's even
greater participation in WFD in the future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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From mark.yergin at gmail.com  Sun Jan 26 15:32:17 2020
From: mark.yergin at gmail.com (Mark Yergin)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 15:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 On The Air!
Message-ID: <CAMDFhzRPeX1EoY76jnhKy1Y1vpK76PmPRWEvpz1rNCfYZA3_Qw@mail.gmail.com>

I?m proud to report that K2 #7867 is on the air!  Just completed my first
QSO with Albert, K3AAR, on 40M CW running 5W into an EFHW.  Al responded to
my second CQ.   I started building in February of 2019, took most of the
summer and fall off, then finished it up over the last few weeks.

Thanks to all on this list who answered questions and gave advice during
the build. In particular thank you Don W3FPR for your direction during a
couple of rough spots on my end.

So glad that Wayne and Eric continue to offer this excellent kit, and I
encourage anyone who has ever considered the K2 to go for it.  It?s well
worth the effort.

Mark W8EWH

From k2asp at kanafi.org  Sun Jan 26 16:10:08 2020
From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:10:08 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KVM recommendation (was:anyone recommend where to
 buy a SERIAL to USB cable fora k3)
In-Reply-To: <0e98b59f-5514-6065-b1f8-466bf2c73789@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
	<71d0dd56-5bc6-6c95-215f-4606a63d649c@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<0e98b59f-5514-6065-b1f8-466bf2c73789@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <e9cff3f4-70ef-02bd-001f-d913ed080f06@kanafi.org>

On 1/25/2020 6:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I can also recommend the Edgeport USB to serial converters.?

I too use an Edgeport-8 in connection with my K2 and accessories (TNC,
RigBlaster, etc.).  It has been super-reliable.

Now I need to replace my keystroke-controlled 2-pole KVM switch that
uses VGA display ports with one that will handle DVI or Mini-Display
ports as well as keyboard and mouse USB ports.  Any suggestions?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

From mike at ve3yf.com  Sun Jan 26 16:38:34 2020
From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 21:38:34 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft]  Kpod Tuning Knob
In-Reply-To: <c3ab3672-5709-bd14-b9fa-69ba6c99738b@embarqmail.com>
References: <c3ab3672-5709-bd14-b9fa-69ba6c99738b@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <41ee21aa-35be-5e1c-f6ff-94131be0e264@ve3yf.com>

Hi:

Has anyone tried using one of the CNC Weighted Tuning Knobs on their 
KPod. I rarely use the Main VFO on my K3S and thinking of moving the 
aftermarket CNC knob to the Kpod. Good or bad would like to hear your 
experience or recommendations.

-- 

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

_/http://www.ve3yf.com/_*


From art at artg.tv  Sun Jan 26 17:11:50 2020
From: art at artg.tv (Art Greenberg)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 17:11:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft]
 =?utf-8?q?KVM_recommendation_=28was=3Aanyone_recommend?=
 =?utf-8?q?_where_to_buy_a_SERIAL_to_USB_cable_fora_k3=29?=
In-Reply-To: <e9cff3f4-70ef-02bd-001f-d913ed080f06@kanafi.org>
References: <CAMRhQ7L=iF8PG1OGwASAktaNJBn-zvnHz3BzhC2knuiyY-B-XQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1a7a8d54-8b57-4081-0cdf-8aa12ebaef86@triconet.org>
	<71d0dd56-5bc6-6c95-215f-4606a63d649c@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<0e98b59f-5514-6065-b1f8-466bf2c73789@embarqmail.com>
	<e9cff3f4-70ef-02bd-001f-d913ed080f06@kanafi.org>
Message-ID: <da989460-04e6-42c2-8e27-6b4479ec3b52@www.fastmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, at 16:10, Phil Kane wrote:
> Now I need to replace my keystroke-controlled 2-pole KVM switch that
> uses VGA display ports with one that will handle DVI or Mini-Display
> ports as well as keyboard and mouse USB ports.  Any suggestions?

I've had good luck with KVMs from StarTech.com (also available on Amazon).

-- 
Art
WA2LLN

From kimochun at gmail.com  Sun Jan 26 17:30:59 2020
From: kimochun at gmail.com (Kimo Chun)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 12:30:59 -1000
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for
	a k3
Message-ID: <CAG4eVbXY4OS4LppWYnP36PHUO+V4CRMxzEB-Keo-BJgv_sJKKg@mail.gmail.com>

I have used USB to Serial adapters made by FTDI, itself, for years. These
are of the highest quality. I have also  used, successfully,  Sabrent and
others including ones with multiple ports using their chip. You can
purchase sub-assemblies and complete cables directly from FTDI through
their USA or EU distribution points. You can also purchase them through
authorized distributors such as Digi-Key. I didn't buy their cheapest model
but the one with the two blue lensed LEDs (one on each side of the housing)
that indicate serial activity.

https://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables.htm

You can't do much better than getting it from the source.

73, Kimo Chun  KH7U


Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:51:03 -0800
From: Richard Donner <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com>
To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailma.qth.net
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>>
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB
        cable for       a k3

From k9gs at gjschwartz.com  Sun Jan 26 17:34:43 2020
From: k9gs at gjschwartz.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:34:43 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
Message-ID: <mailman.509.1580078119.13233.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.? I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again.?The VFO B knob is completely dead.? Turning it does not tune VFO B.? Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS

From neilz at techie.com  Sun Jan 26 17:35:56 2020
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 17:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
 for a k3
In-Reply-To: <639A8071-59DC-4A34-9DEF-FD8E32493867@gmail.com>
References: <20200125171831.Horde.XZPzxd5VCWBxpc4Kbks0Z2d@www11.qth.com>
	<639A8071-59DC-4A34-9DEF-FD8E32493867@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9df81d83-fb89-2b55-353f-06f7ec0830ab@techie.com>

FWIW .. he's looking for a K3 cable .. DX Engineering only carries the
KXUSB cable for the KX3.

Neil KN3ILZ

On 1/25/2020 7:00 PM, Dave wrote:
> I ordered my KXUSB-A cable from DX Engineering. Closer to me, faster shipping.
>
> I see you have a 6 area call. If you are in CA then ordering from Elecraft should be faster. For those of us on the east coast there are alternatives.
>
> Dave wo2x
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:20 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
>>
>> ?You don't need to talk to a human to order a KUSB, it's on the Elecraft website.
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>> Richard Donner WA6KYR wrote:
>>
>> Thanks everyone
>> Wow I got many responses,    Bob, Ray, Max,
>> Thank you for the replies.  I will call Elecraft Monday.
>> 73 Richard    wa6kyr
>>
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From reillyjf at comcast.net  Sun Jan 26 18:16:11 2020
From: reillyjf at comcast.net (John Reilly)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:16:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3}Bose 700 Headphones
Message-ID: <b2f61e08-6e14-63f6-e036-104a9e09d405@comcast.net>

Is anyone using the Bose 700 headphones with their K3? How are they 
working? Are you using the wired audio cable? Does the audio cable give 
the ability to connect both the microphone and the headset? Thanks,
 ? - 73, John, N0TA

From dick at elecraft.com  Sun Jan 26 18:27:45 2020
From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 15:27:45 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable
	for a k3
In-Reply-To: <em0ba2466b-6bd8-4c31-8902-f75252388125@laptop3>
References: <em0ba2466b-6bd8-4c31-8902-f75252388125@laptop3>
Message-ID: <C36874C0-EEB2-4CDA-B1BB-1293A0C85FAC@elecraft.com>

One characteristic of the KUSB from Elecraft is that its jack screws can firmly attach the cable to the K3. Not all USB to Serial adapters have this ?gender?.

I find some USB adapters on Amazon with jack screws and others with nuts to attach to screws. If you use a cable with jack nuts, it may not completely seat.

I?ve successfully used a Gearmo 4 port USB to serial adapter, which uses the FTDI chipset, to connect to several devices to one USB hub on my computer. Amazon has these.

I can also recommend Edgeport, but you?ll also need DE-9 cables from that box to the radio.

73 de Dick, K6KR 

>> On Jan 25, 2020, at 16:18, Barry <k3ndm at comcast.net> wrote:
> ?Try Elecraft. That's where I got mine.
> 
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Richard Donner" <richarddnnr2 at gmail.com>
> To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 1/25/2020 4:51:03 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] anyone recommend where to buy a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3
> 
>> Hi
>>   I have new Windows 10 PC and everything is a software battle!
>> 
>> What I need now is a SERIAL to USB cable for a k3.
>> If you know  exactly where to purchase it that would help.
>> 
>> Thanks Richard   Wa6kyr
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From foster2 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 26 20:03:03 2020
From: foster2 at gmail.com (Foster Kartsotis)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] kxpa-100-at-f for sale
Message-ID: <CALN7B4dMHWUNZTGsLa9keKOBQnJ6yXKzyzgY1qmFX7ni4yFhpA@mail.gmail.com>

Nearly unused, serial number 1451.  Antenna tuner model, power wire and kx3
cable included.  Couple scratches on bottom, sat on shelf for years unused.
 950 dollars, ground shipping to lower 48 included.  Contact me directly -
Foster2 at gmail dot com, PayPal or Apple Pay.

Foster
N3jku

From paul.wyse at gmail.com  Sun Jan 26 20:29:24 2020
From: paul.wyse at gmail.com (Paul Wyse)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:29:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KANT3 Board
Message-ID: <CAN0G05JsVgaFTkQ4OWmto9eaBZgAqezJr1eC0A5rCTiBU1WkaA@mail.gmail.com>

MY KAT3 has a problem. I am looking for a KANT3 board.
73, Paul W4PFM

From elanzl at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 26 20:58:27 2020
From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 01:58:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net for 1-26-2020
References: <1642131716.20186056.1580090307070.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1642131716.20186056.1580090307070@mail.yahoo.com>

Here is the list of stations checking in to the net today. Propagation was very difficult today. A big thank you to Jim KO5V for his help relaying stations that I could not hear. We meet at 14.303.5 on Sundays at 1800Z and everyone is welcome to join in. 


Elecraft SSB Net 1-26-2020

WB9JNZ???????????????????? Eric????? IL???????? K3?????????????????? 4017??? NET CONTROL

K8NU/7?????????????????????? Carl???? OH/WA??FT2000??????????????????? OPERATING REMOTE 

KB9AVO???????????????????? Paul???? IN??????? K3S?????????????? 11103

K6FW????????????????????????? Frank?? CA????? K3S?????????????? 11672

K7BRR??????????????????????? Bill?????? AZ?????? K3S?????????????? 10939

WM6P???????????????????????? Steve?? GA?????? K3S?????????????? 11453

NS7P????????????????????????? Phil????? OR?????? K3?????????????????? 1826

ZL1PWD???????????????????? Peter?? NZ???? ? ? K3???????????????????? 139

N4NRW????????????????????? Roger? SC???????? K3??????????????????  1318

AI6KU/M???????????????????? Bob????? CA???? ?? KX3??????????????? 10068

KD8CIV?????????????????????? John??? MI?????? ?? KX3????????????????  4654

KF7ZN??????????????????????? Carl???? OH??? ? ?? K3???????????????????  5946

N1WMR????????????????????? Andrew? ME??? ??ICOM7300???????????????? ????? 1st time check in ???? 


From elanzl at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 26 21:05:48 2020
From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 02:05:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net omission
References: <1731371548.20258958.1580090748859.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1731371548.20258958.1580090748859@mail.yahoo.com>

W1NGA???? Al?????? CO???? K3?? 5765??? Al checked in via the internet as he was not able to join us. In fact Al joined us for the last two weeks via the internet. 



From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sun Jan 26 21:15:23 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 21:15:23 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
In-Reply-To: <20200126223652.879EB149B709@mail.qsl.net>
References: <20200126223652.879EB149B709@mail.qsl.net>
Message-ID: <fcfd41a2-e781-6be0-7c35-13eb4b6454d7@embarqmail.com>

Gary,

If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel 
assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows 
the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the 
problem, contact support at elecraft.com for additional checks.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.? I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again.?The VFO B knob is completely dead.? Turning it does not tune VFO B.? Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS

From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jan 26 22:22:55 2020
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:22:55 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <c5868508-8273-95bc-9b3d-627d83c7eec6@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ? It was early one July day in Wisconsin, the sun would be up soon.? 
Pack mule Kevin was carrying Dad's target rifle of the day on one 
shoulder, the rifle he was tuning on the other, forty pounds of .30 cal 
ammunition in one hand and the target scopes in the other.? I was 
sinking into the ground with each step.? Dad was following me with the 
electronic equipment and his photographic gear.? The goal was to tune 
his new barrel design for the 300 H&H magnum.? He had strain gauges 
along both sides and along the top of the barrel all with their leads 
hooked into his recorder.? They were to measure its resonant 
frequencies.? He was also planning to take photos of the muzzle flash to 
check powder burn rates.? He had hand loaded a few different powder 
mixes for the forty rounds we were planning on testing.

 ? My job for the day was to be part of the test equipment.? The guy who 
pulled the trigger and tried to hit the paper at 600 yards.? Xs would be 
a dream with the kick of this rifle.? Dad would give me windage, the 
elevation was already set, and I would perform the sight picture, 
breath, squeeze part.? If you've ever shot high power rifles you know 
they kick.? This rifle had been designed to shoot elephants and rhinos.? 
By the fifth round my flinch was becoming comic.? By the fortieth round 
it was a matter of timing between the squeeze and the jolt of pain. If I 
delayed the pain long enough I could hit the paper.

 ? What does this tale of discovery have to do with Elecraft? During 
today's nets you will have heard the same timing effect. That between 
cause and reaction.? It was especially troubling on dits.? Any character 
with multiple dits through off the timing because my thumb would flinch 
before completing them all.? Hs became Ss? Bs into Ds? och!? While we 
did tame that old Holland & Holland it never was the target rifle of 
choice.? With my CW the problem has more to do with over use than the 
kick of my Begali.? Once I don't have to split any more compression wood 
fir and after I am done editing another hundred pages I will have time 
to rest.

 ? But, I digress


 ? On 14050.75 kHz at 2200z:

NO8V - John - MI

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K6XK - Roy - IA

K4JPN - Steve - GA

K9ZTV - Kent - MO

K1SW - Dick - CT


 ? On 7047.75 kHz at 0000z:

K6XK - Roy - IA

W6JHB - Jim - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

W0CZ - Ken - ND

KG7V - Marv - WA

KL7CW - Rick - AK


 ? Twenty meters was noisy, forty meters was quieter, but 160 meters has 
been great lately.? We truly are at solar minimum because what used to 
be the low band is open during the daytime. Twenty meters had medium 
speed QSB of 3 to 4 S units.? Forty meters had much less.? As you can 
see from the lists the bands were open today.? Weather reports were of 
mild weather considering it is January.? Even -5 F from Rick seemed like 
a nice sunny day to me.? Polar wax, sunglasses, gloves, and a scarf then 
XC ski all day.

 ?? Until next week enjoy the bands 73,

 ??????? Kevin.? KD5ONS

_



You claim that nobody understands you, but then,

the strange white men in lab coats are doing the best they can.







From k9gs at gjschwartz.com  Sun Jan 26 22:48:38 2020
From: k9gs at gjschwartz.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 21:48:38 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
In-Reply-To: <fcfd41a2-e781-6be0-7c35-13eb4b6454d7@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.511.1580096925.13233.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com>, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.? If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.? If that is not the problem, contact support at elecraft.com for additional checks.73,Don W3FPROn 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.? I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again.?The VFO B knob is completely dead.? Turning it does not tune VFO B.? Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS

From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 26 23:20:37 2020
From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:20:37 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 On The Air!
In-Reply-To: <CAMDFhzRPeX1EoY76jnhKy1Y1vpK76PmPRWEvpz1rNCfYZA3_Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDFhzRPeX1EoY76jnhKy1Y1vpK76PmPRWEvpz1rNCfYZA3_Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJSJeL33HL9_Q2T9tywaKkxw6EEqPi+0nNywcxNafTupmwRb8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations!

I second that emotion.  I built mine 15 years ago--most fun building
project ever!  More fun than an HW-101.  More fun than an HW-16.  Way more
fun than a Twoer.   May the QSO-eating grin never fade.

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 12:32 PM Mark Yergin <mark.yergin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I?m proud to report that K2 #7867 is on the air!  Just completed my first
> QSO with Albert, K3AAR, on 40M CW running 5W into an EFHW.  Al responded to
> my second CQ.   I started building in February of 2019, took most of the
> summer and fall off, then finished it up over the last few weeks.
>
> Thanks to all on this list who answered questions and gave advice during
> the build. In particular thank you Don W3FPR for your direction during a
> couple of rough spots on my end.
>
> So glad that Wayne and Eric continue to offer this excellent kit, and I
> encourage anyone who has ever considered the K2 to go for it.  It?s well
> worth the effort.
>
> Mark W8EWH
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sun Jan 26 23:38:59 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:38:59 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
In-Reply-To: <20200127035033.5249D149B549@mail.qsl.net>
References: <20200127035033.5249D149B549@mail.qsl.net>
Message-ID: <C0865497-8240-49FC-A762-D203D15B5C89@widomaker.com>

Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS
> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com>, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact support at elecraft.com for additional checks.73,Don W3FPROn 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.  I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead.  Turning it does not tune VFO B.  Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS
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From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Mon Jan 27 00:56:23 2020
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:56:23 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
In-Reply-To: <C0865497-8240-49FC-A762-D203D15B5C89@widomaker.com>
References: <20200127035033.5249D149B549@mail.qsl.net>
	<C0865497-8240-49FC-A762-D203D15B5C89@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <9094154e-beb1-ad15-3a9e-4b0b3f4aa821@gmail.com>

...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote:
 > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in.
 >
 > Sent from my iPhone
 > ...nr4c. bill
 >
 >
 >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com> wrote:
 >>
 >> ?Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a 
document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS

 >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm 
<donwilh at embarqmail.com> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary 
K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com>, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your 
K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder 
B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from 
Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact support at elecraft.com for 
additional checks.73,Don W3FPR

From jim at n7us.net  Mon Jan 27 05:11:14 2020
From: jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 04:11:14 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Kpod Tuning Knob
In-Reply-To: <41ee21aa-35be-5e1c-f6ff-94131be0e264@ve3yf.com>
References: <c3ab3672-5709-bd14-b9fa-69ba6c99738b@embarqmail.com>
	<41ee21aa-35be-5e1c-f6ff-94131be0e264@ve3yf.com>
Message-ID: <CAGYgfuPmuc3=qnMCjg1w0Myn9HhF3Qa0v9AJx7UR-1AH7Mxa=w@mail.gmail.com>

I bought a set of the original, weighted knobs with the metal insert and
dimple in ball bearings on the larger knob.

i used them on my K3 but moved the larger knob to my K-Pod when I got my
K3S.  I am not using the smaller one now.

I like the knob on the K-Pod a lot.  I use the K-Pod more than the knobs on
the radio, and it allows me to use the larger, weighted knob for both VFOs
and RIT.

Jim N7US

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 3:39 PM Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Has anyone tried using one of the CNC Weighted Tuning Knobs on their
> KPod. I rarely use the Main VFO on my K3S and thinking of moving the
> aftermarket CNC knob to the Kpod. Good or bad would like to hear your
> experience or recommendations.
>
> --
>
> *73 De Mike*
> *VE3YF
>
> --
Jim N7US Sent from Gmail Mobile

From bobdehaney at gmx.net  Mon Jan 27 05:24:32 2020
From: bobdehaney at gmx.net (Bob DeHaney)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 11:24:32 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Digest
Message-ID: <000201d5d4fb$f77f90f0$e67eb2d0$@gmx.net>

Anyone besides me get 3 copies (up to now) of the same digest?



Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T


From k9gs at gjschwartz.com  Mon Jan 27 10:59:49 2020
From: k9gs at gjschwartz.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 09:59:49 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
In-Reply-To: <9094154e-beb1-ad15-3a9e-4b0b3f4aa821@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.512.1580140804.13233.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen.?I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Victor Rosenthal <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> Date: 1/26/20  11:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net, Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead ...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!73,Victor, 4X6GPRehovot, IsraelFormerly K2VCOCWops no. 5http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> Date: 1/26/20? 8:15 PM? (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com>, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.? If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.? If that is not the problem, contact support at elecraft.com for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR

From bw396ss at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 27 11:32:32 2020
From: bw396ss at yahoo.com (Bill Wiehe)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 16:32:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 - P3 Direct Coupled Sensor
References: <600603343.11966567.1580142752700.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <600603343.11966567.1580142752700@mail.yahoo.com>

I currently use my 'Direct Coupled Pan Adapter TX Sensor' to monitor operations as the final connection just before theantenna, just as I assume other do. Does anyone know of there will be a provision for K4 to monitor the same parametersie; power and swr.?
73W0BBI

From w0mu at w0mu.com  Mon Jan 27 12:13:41 2020
From: w0mu at w0mu.com (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:13:41 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
In-Reply-To: <20200127160041.59355149B6C2@mail.qsl.net>
References: <20200127160041.59355149B6C2@mail.qsl.net>
Message-ID: <bf525091-5454-caba-a409-29da00490411@w0mu.com>

Why not call Tech support?? They need to know that your radio was not 
working out of the box.? Let them help you.? That is what they are there 
for.

On 1/27/2020 8:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen.?I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
> -------- Original message --------From: Victor Rosenthal <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> Date: 1/26/20  11:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net, Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead ...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!73,Victor, 4X6GPRehovot, IsraelFormerly K2VCOCWops no. 5http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> Date: 1/26/20? 8:15 PM? (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <k9gs at gjschwartz.com>, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.? If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.? If that is not the problem, contact support at elecraft.com for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR
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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Mon Jan 27 13:04:45 2020
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:04:45 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Kpod Tuning Knob
In-Reply-To: <CAGYgfuPmuc3=qnMCjg1w0Myn9HhF3Qa0v9AJx7UR-1AH7Mxa=w@mail.gmail.com>
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What's the history of the bearings on the encoders with use of the weighted knob? Just curious...maybe I'll get one for the pod...

Jack BMW Motorcycles
Chuck KE9UW
c-hawley at illinois.edu

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> On Jan 27, 2020, at 4:11 AM, Jim McDonald <jim at n7us.net> wrote:
> 
> I bought a set of the original, weighted knobs with the metal insert and
> dimple in ball bearings on the larger knob.
> 
> i used them on my K3 but moved the larger knob to my K-Pod when I got my
> K3S.  I am not using the smaller one now.
> 
> I like the knob on the K-Pod a lot.  I use the K-Pod more than the knobs on
> the radio, and it allows me to use the larger, weighted knob for both VFOs
> and RIT.
> 
> Jim N7US
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 3:39 PM Mike VE3YF <mike at ve3yf.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> Has anyone tried using one of the CNC Weighted Tuning Knobs on their
>> KPod. I rarely use the Main VFO on my K3S and thinking of moving the
>> aftermarket CNC knob to the Kpod. Good or bad would like to hear your
>> experience or recommendations.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> *73 De Mike*
>> *VE3YF
>> 
>> --
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan 27 13:23:03 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 13:23:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
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Gary,

You have to remove the front panel assembly.  The encoder must be 
removed from the rear of the Front Panel.

It is not difficult, try it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen.?I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS

From richarddw1945 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 27 13:36:00 2020
From: richarddw1945 at yahoo.com (RIchard Williams)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:36:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
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Gary,
Before you order a new encoder, remove the front panel and swap the two encoders (they are the same), put the radio back together, and see what you observe when tuning both the A and B VFOs.

Dick, K8ZTTT

 





Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.  What is first, you ask? Landing, of course. 



 

    On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:23:23 AM MST, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Gary,

You have to remove the front panel assembly.? The encoder must be 
removed from the rear of the Front Panel.

It is not difficult, try it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen.?I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
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From bobdehaney at gmx.net  Mon Jan 27 14:26:02 2020
From: bobdehaney at gmx.net (Bob DeHaney)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:26:02 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Kpod Tuning Knob
Message-ID: <001301d5d547$9cff77c0$d6fe6740$@gmx.net>


 As far as I know these Knobs are unobtainium.  I do have one I would sell as I did not like the feel.  I believe the original price was about $100.00.  You would have to pay shipping from Germany (I have a PayPal account).  Make me an offer and I'll check the small parcel rates.

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T


From rcrgs at verizon.net  Mon Jan 27 15:12:45 2020
From: rcrgs at verizon.net (Robert G Strickland)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:12:45 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 On The Air!
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Congratulations, Mark...

The K2 is a wonderful radio, all the way from bags of parts to your 
first on-the-air QSO. IMHO, it is one the historic radios in the history 
of amateur radio. You may own or someday buy a "state-of-the-art" radio 
but such a rig will never replace that spot in your heart for your K2. 
Have fun.

...robert  K2 #5957

On 1/27/2020 04:20, Eric Norris wrote:
> Congratulations!
>
> I second that emotion.  I built mine 15 years ago--most fun building
> project ever!  More fun than an HW-101.  More fun than an HW-16.  Way more
> fun than a Twoer.   May the QSO-eating grin never fade.
>
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 12:32 PM Mark Yergin <mark.yergin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I?m proud to report that K2 #7867 is on the air!  Just completed my first
>> QSO with Albert, K3AAR, on 40M CW running 5W into an EFHW.  Al responded to
>> my second CQ.   I started building in February of 2019, took most of the
>> summer and fall off, then finished it up over the last few weeks.
>>
>> Thanks to all on this list who answered questions and gave advice during
>> the build. In particular thank you Don W3FPR for your direction during a
>> couple of rough spots on my end.
>>
>> So glad that Wayne and Eric continue to offer this excellent kit, and I
>> encourage anyone who has ever considered the K2 to go for it.  It?s well
>> worth the effort.
>>
>> Mark W8EWH
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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Mon Jan 27 16:22:02 2020
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:22:02 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Kpod Tuning Knob
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You can get a version from here...

http://www.dtsohio.com/73cnc/elecraft.html



Jack BMW Motorcycles
Chuck KE9UW
c-hawley at illinois.edu<mailto:c-hawley at illinois.edu>

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On Jan 27, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Bob DeHaney <bobdehaney at gmx.net<mailto:bobdehaney at gmx.net>> wrote:


As far as I know these Knobs are unobtainium.  I do have one I would sell as I did not like the feel.  I believe the original price was about $100.00.  You would have to pay shipping from Germany (I have a PayPal account).  Make me an offer and I'll check the small parcel rates.

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T

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From mike at ve3yf.com  Mon Jan 27 16:26:17 2020
From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:26:17 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 - P3 Direct Coupled Sensor
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Bill:

Sure hope so, or I will have some extra's For Sale...

-- 

*73 De Mike*
*VE3YF

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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Jan 27 18:26:36 2020
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:26:36 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B dead
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Add a tad of De-Oxit(sp) and you may be done!  Careful, a little goes a long way. 

ps: after applying the cleaner/lib, work the contacts in and out a few times to spread it and wipe the contacts. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 27, 2020, at 1:37 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Gary,
> Before you order a new encoder, remove the front panel and swap the two encoders (they are the same), put the radio back together, and see what you observe when tuning both the A and B VFOs.
> 
> Dick, K8ZTTT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.  What is first, you ask? Landing, of course. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:23:23 AM MST, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> Gary,
> 
> You have to remove the front panel assembly.  The encoder must be 
> removed from the rear of the Front Panel.
> 
> It is not difficult, try it.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
>> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
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From vfo77 at inkbox.net  Tue Jan 28 01:22:43 2020
From: vfo77 at inkbox.net (Frank O'Donnell)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:22:43 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
Message-ID: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>

I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using 
a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.

Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and 
WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using 
VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings > Radio 
pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way through, but 
some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD



From bemeier at bellsouth.net  Tue Jan 28 08:05:09 2020
From: bemeier at bellsouth.net (Bruce Meier)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:05:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 increased noise level
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Message-ID: <008701d5d5db$948c8990$bda59cb0$@bellsouth.net>

During CQWW-160 one of my K3 XCVRs all of a sudden had a significant
increase in the noise level.  The result was a MUCH decreased S/N level such
that I could not copy anyone calling me.  After checking around the house to
see if anyone turned on something I started troubleshooting the K3 and
various cable connections.  Finding nothing wrong I then swapped everything
that I had hard wired for the single band contest to my other K3.
(beverages, antenna, key, YCCC SO2R port, etc.)   This cost us over 30
minutes right at EU peak run time.  The result was amazing - NO NOISE.  So,
we continued the rest of the weekend on K3 #2.  Now that the weekend is over
it was time to address K3 #1.  The problem does not seem to be as bad now
but there is a difference in S/N that can be heard with my ears between K3
#1 and K3 #2.    Most everything is common to both rigs except for the power
supplies which I swapped this morning with no change noticed.

 

I have checked all settings on both units to make sure they are exactly the
same.  They are.  Both units have Sub RX, upgraded K3S synthesizers, same
XTAL filters and running the latest version of firmware.

 

Suggestions??

 

Questions??

 

Thanks and 73,

Bruce N1LN 


From johnae5x at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 08:42:35 2020
From: johnae5x at gmail.com (John Harper)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:42:35 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft]  K2 On The Air!
Message-ID: <CAPHmH=P9NT9Ysu4W7p+WgVgdx5tK2v9XG9JhvbC0UJAU5fQ01g@mail.gmail.com>

Congrats on your build! What did the problem with Q7 and Q8 turn out to be?

73,

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jan 28 14:20:19 2020
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:20:19 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
Message-ID: <em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>

Frank,
     I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, and 
FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that came 
with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power slider 
in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's ALC 
readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA temperature. It will 
definitely rise.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

>I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.
>
>Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.
>
>Thanks and 73,
>
>Frank K6FOD
>
>
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From k2vjk at k2vjk.com  Tue Jan 28 14:27:31 2020
From: k2vjk at k2vjk.com (VernonJ)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:27:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
Message-ID: <1580239651539-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with
the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to
protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts
at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do
this? Thanks.



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From donovanf at starpower.net  Tue Jan 28 14:38:07 2020
From: donovanf at starpower.net (donovanf at starpower.net)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:38:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
In-Reply-To: <1580239651539-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1270004351.1402789.1580240287127.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>

60 feet of antenna separation does not provide diversity capability. 
Diversity depends on independent fading of received signals, 
accomplished by at least one wavelength of spacing between two 
identically polarized antennas or by two antennas with opposite 
polarization. More than one wavelength of spacing will provide 
even better diversity performance. 


One wavelength of spacing requires 540 feet of spacing, 
almost ten times more what you're proposing to use. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 





----- Original Message -----

From: "VernonJ" <k2vjk at k2vjk.com> 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:27:31 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive 

My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with 
the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop. 
Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to 
protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts 
at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do 
this? Thanks. 



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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 28 14:38:29 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:38:29 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
In-Reply-To: <1580239651539-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1580239651539-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <16fd50b0-68d4-6fca-1742-427a8b19d7ce@embarqmail.com>

Vernon,

Give it a try, a lot will depend on the relative orientation of the loop 
and your transmit antenna (in other words, no one can predict for you).

If you hear the COR in the subRX begin to click, you will know that 
there is too much pickup on the RX antenna.

There are several protective devices available in the ham marketplace.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2020 2:27 PM, VernonJ wrote:
> My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with
> the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
> Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to
> protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts
> at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do
> this? Thanks.

From donovanf at starpower.net  Tue Jan 28 14:41:40 2020
From: donovanf at starpower.net (donovanf at starpower.net)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:41:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
In-Reply-To: <1270004351.1402789.1580240287127.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>
Message-ID: <1919618975.1405421.1580240500983.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>

I should have clarified 540 feet of separation on 160 meters, 
much less on higher bands (e.g. 280 feet on 80, 140 feet on 40) 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: donovanf at starpower.net 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:38:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive 

60 feet of antenna separation does not provide diversity capability. 
Diversity depends on independent fading of received signals, 
accomplished by at least one wavelength of spacing between two 
identically polarized antennas or by two antennas with opposite 
polarization. More than one wavelength of spacing will provide 
even better diversity performance. 


One wavelength of spacing requires 540 feet of spacing, 
almost ten times more what you're proposing to use. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 





----- Original Message ----- 

From: "VernonJ" <k2vjk at k2vjk.com> 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:27:31 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive 

My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with 
the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop. 
Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to 
protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts 
at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do 
this? Thanks. 



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From vfo77 at inkbox.net  Tue Jan 28 15:00:01 2020
From: vfo77 at inkbox.net (Frank O'Donnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:00:01 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
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Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings 
 > Radio page:

-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is 
anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS, 
etc)?

-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT 
method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?

Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:
> Frank,
> ??? I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, 
> and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that 
> came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power 
> slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's 
> ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA temperature. It 
> will definitely rise.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>
>> I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, 
>> using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.
>>
>> Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
>> multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and 
>> WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is 
>> using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings 
>> > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way 
>> through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.
>>
>> Thanks and 73,
>>
>> Frank K6FOD
>>


From ny9h at arrl.net  Tue Jan 28 15:03:55 2020
From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:03:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] problem downloading new (current) firmware from kx3 FTP
	site.
Message-ID: <2e21bb76-3828-c1aa-5187-ec91802116ff@arrl.net>

I am doing something wrong , I cannot seem to download current FW with 
kx3 utility...

What am I doing wrong ..


tnx


bill

14:58:39 Opening connection to ftp.elecraft.com
14:58:39 Copying files to C:\Program Files (x86)\Elecraft\KX3 Utility
14:58:39 FtpGetFile completed with error 0x00000005: Access is denied.
14:58:39 Click "Close" to close this window
14:58:41 Ready
14:58:41 Firmware folder does not contain required KX3 firmware files
Click "Copy new files from Elecraft"
or navigate to a folder containing KX3 firmware files
14:58:41 Serial Port is closed
14:58:41 Attempting to contact KX3 on port COM4 at 38400 bit/s
14:58:42 KX3 MCU revision 02.90. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s


From ve3iay at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 16:52:21 2020
From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:52:21 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
Message-ID: <CAJ-xeHnM7dsc6C6QYYj8t1CUAGi2_UV4v_F2_zBfZ3NYQo74Gg@mail.gmail.com>

Your first posting said that you had been using WSJt-X for a fairly long
time using the USB cable for both audio and CAT control. If the only change
you want to make is to use VOX instead of PTT, the only thing you need to
change in WSJT-X  is the PTT setting - change it from CAT to VOX.
Everything else can stay the same.

However, you also said you wanted to run multiple instances of WSJT-X.
That's a different matter, and PTT/VOX is only a small part of it. If you
try to run more than one instance of WSJT-X, only the first instance will
be able to use CAT control. Any other instances will not be able to open
the serial port used to control the radio, so they will not have CAT
control of any kind, including not only PTT control, but also frequency and
mode control.

JT9 uses CAT control not only for PTT, but also for frequency control
(split operation, and/or specific frequencies for different modes on
various bands). The instance you use for JT9 and similar modes should
probably have full CAT control. WSPR, on the other hand, does not really
need CAT control once you have tuned the transceiver to the correct
frequency for the band. So I'd suggest creating a second instance of WSJT-X
that does not have CAT control implemented at all, with PTT using VOX and
Split Operation set to None. Use that second non-CAT instance for WSPR.

73,
Rich VE3KI

K6FOD wrote:

I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings
 > Radio page:

-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is
anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS,
etc)?

-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT
method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?

From g0ruz at g0ruz.com  Tue Jan 28 17:31:33 2020
From: g0ruz at g0ruz.com (Conrad PA5Y)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:31:33 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
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If you want to be absolutely certain you could add an external relay driven from the key output. If you use this port to key you PA then you can just use a Y splitter. There are hundreds of suitable relays on eBay. Configure so that on TX the sub RX is terminated with 50 ohms. Typically relays such as Dow Key 401 series will give well over 100dB isolation on HF through 6m, they say 85dB but it's a lot more on all the ones I have measured.

For example

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dow-Key-401-175-RF-Microwave-Switch-15V-SMA-NSN-5985-01-320-1388/143186092545

Regards

Conrad PA5Y


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Sent: 28 January 2020 20:28
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive

My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do this? Thanks.



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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 28 18:12:16 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:12:16 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
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Such a relay is a workable solution.
BUT be aware that the K3 KEYOUT only provides a ground.  The relay coil 
must be connected to a voltage source.  Since you are also using an 
amplifier on the KEYOUT line, you will have to carefully match the 
voltage of the relay and its voltage supply with the voltage provided in 
the amplifier - if you do not, there will be current flow between the 
amplifier and your relay's power source.

That current flow can be prevented by the use of a series diode in each 
leg of the "Y".  If the diodes are used, there is not as great a need 
for matching the voltages.

So things are a bit more involved than just using a "Y" cable.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2020 5:31 PM, Conrad PA5Y wrote:
> If you want to be absolutely certain you could add an external relay driven from the key output. If you use this port to key you PA then you can just use a Y splitter. There are hundreds of suitable relays on eBay. Configure so that on TX the sub RX is terminated with 50 ohms. Typically relays such as Dow Key 401 series will give well over 100dB isolation on HF through 6m, they say 85dB but it's a lot more on all the ones I have measured.
> 
> For example
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dow-Key-401-175-RF-Microwave-Switch-15V-SMA-NSN-5985-01-320-1388/143186092545
> 
> Regards
> 
> Conrad PA5Y
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of VernonJ
> Sent: 28 January 2020 20:28
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
> 
> My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
> Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do this? Thanks.
> 
> 
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From g0ruz at g0ruz.com  Tue Jan 28 18:25:39 2020
From: g0ruz at g0ruz.com (Conrad PA5Y)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:25:39 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
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Good advice Don. I should have mentioned that.  

73

Conrad PA5Y

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: 29 January 2020 00:12
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive

Such a relay is a workable solution.
BUT be aware that the K3 KEYOUT only provides a ground.  The relay coil must be connected to a voltage source.  Since you are also using an amplifier on the KEYOUT line, you will have to carefully match the voltage of the relay and its voltage supply with the voltage provided in the amplifier - if you do not, there will be current flow between the amplifier and your relay's power source.

That current flow can be prevented by the use of a series diode in each leg of the "Y".  If the diodes are used, there is not as great a need for matching the voltages.

So things are a bit more involved than just using a "Y" cable.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2020 5:31 PM, Conrad PA5Y wrote:
> If you want to be absolutely certain you could add an external relay driven from the key output. If you use this port to key you PA then you can just use a Y splitter. There are hundreds of suitable relays on eBay. Configure so that on TX the sub RX is terminated with 50 ohms. Typically relays such as Dow Key 401 series will give well over 100dB isolation on HF through 6m, they say 85dB but it's a lot more on all the ones I have measured.
> 
> For example
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dow-Key-401-175-RF-Microwave-Switch-15V-SMA-N
> SN-5985-01-320-1388/143186092545
> 
> Regards
> 
> Conrad PA5Y
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of VernonJ
> Sent: 28 January 2020 20:28
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity 
> receive
> 
> My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
> Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do this? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 19:09:39 2020
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:09:39 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
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Frank,
     Not all of us have your backyard, like me. Using two different 
polarization will get you there also, And, cross polarization will 
enhance decoupling between the antennas.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: donovanf at starpower.net
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 1/28/2020 2:41:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity 
receive

>I should have clarified 540 feet of separation on 160 meters,
>much less on higher bands (e.g. 280 feet on 80, 140 feet on 40)
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: donovanf at starpower.net
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:38:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
>
>60 feet of antenna separation does not provide diversity capability.
>Diversity depends on independent fading of received signals,
>accomplished by at least one wavelength of spacing between two
>identically polarized antennas or by two antennas with opposite
>polarization. More than one wavelength of spacing will provide
>even better diversity performance.
>
>
>One wavelength of spacing requires 540 feet of spacing,
>almost ten times more what you're proposing to use.
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "VernonJ" <k2vjk at k2vjk.com>
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:27:31 PM
>Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
>
>My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with
>the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
>Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to
>protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts
>at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do
>this? Thanks.
>
>
>
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From edauer at law.du.edu  Tue Jan 28 19:22:25 2020
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:22:25 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!
Message-ID: <CCABC96F-D289-43AD-AC33-3651FA2182DD@law.du.edu>

    I fully agree.  I've built three and, while considering a QTH change,  sold two.  The third one is not for sale.  Never will be.  I'm taking it with me.  Wherever.

Ted, KN1CBR

------------------------------
    
    Message: 3
    Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:12:45 +0000
    From: Robert G Strickland <rcrgs at verizon.net>
    To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 On The Air!
    Message-ID: <48458eb2-c97c-216d-f992-d150f0dc15be at verizon.net>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
    
    Congratulations, Mark...
    
    The K2 is a wonderful radio, all the way from bags of parts to your 
    first on-the-air QSO. IMHO, it is one the historic radios in the history 
    of amateur radio. You may own or someday buy a "state-of-the-art" radio 
    but such a rig will never replace that spot in your heart for your K2. 
    Have fun.
    
    ...robert  K2 #5957
    
    



From ws6x.ars at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 19:41:30 2020
From: ws6x.ars at gmail.com (ws6x.ars at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:41:30 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 189, Issue 24
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:27:31 -0700 (MST)
From: VernonJ <k2vjk at k2vjk.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity
	receive
Message-ID: <1580239651539-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive
with
the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to
protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts
at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do
this? Thanks.

>>> Vernon, I would encourage you to give diversity a try. As an early K3
field tester I got my first K3 in 2007 when I lived in a postage stamp sized
lot in CA. I used a variety of RX antennas in full diversity against the TX
antenna, including a Pixel Loop. All those RX antennas were closer to the TX
antenna than what you are proposing. There were many, many times over the
years when having full diversity capability meant the difference between a Q
and no Q. You have very little to lose by giving it a try. 
On caution though... As others have mentioned, I would strongly advise a
front-end protection system.
73 es GL,
Jim - WS6X 


From w4hwd at bellsouth.net  Tue Jan 28 19:46:29 2020
From: w4hwd at bellsouth.net (Harry W4HWD)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 17:46:29 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 reduced recieve signal
Message-ID: <1580258789613-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

When I switch the amplifier from Standby to Operate, I see and hear a
noticeable reduction in received signal strength, both on the S-meter and in
my headphones. Signal strength goes back up when I switch from Operate back
to Standby. *Seems to only do it in DATA A mode*. No change on CW. Any ideas
why? Rig is a K3S, using enhanced mode cables, if that matters.

Harry W4HWD




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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Jan 28 20:24:31 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:24:31 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 reduced recieve signal
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Message-ID: <265b8524-fb45-4e0f-5e4a-0f87d8c4b47c@blomand.net>

Is your receive bandwidth changing between modes?? I wouldn't think 
changing the amp would affect the receiver.?? I'd say a more careful 
evaluation would determine the T/R switch in the amp is the culprit.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/28/2020 6:46 PM, Harry W4HWD wrote:
> When I switch the amplifier from Standby to Operate, I see and hear a
> noticeable reduction in received signal strength, both on the S-meter and in
> my headphones. Signal strength goes back up when I switch from Operate back
> to Standby. *Seems to only do it in DATA A mode*. No change on CW. Any ideas
> why? Rig is a K3S, using enhanced mode cables, if that matters.
>
> Harry W4HWD
>
>
>
>
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From w5sv.dave at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 20:26:19 2020
From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:26:19 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Upgraded K3 Station
Message-ID: <DE368380-CF60-4F95-9929-8FF27ABF0D6B@gmail.com>

Hi folks; I am selling my upgraded K3 - yes, you guessed; getting a K4? Thanks for the bandwidth! Prices include shipping & insurance in continental USA. All equipment in excellent condition; non smoking environment.

Package deal: $5,000 for ll of it.

Items for sale:

K3 F - 100 watt serial number 5354  (associated accessories below) $3,000
KIO3B upgrade
Synthesizer boards upgraded
General coverage option
Dual receiver
DVR
Internal autotuner
Internal 2m transporter
TCXO
Filters: (in both main and sub receivers)
13 Khz
 6 Khz
 2.7 Khz
 2.1 Khz
 0.25 Khz

SP3 External Speakers (2 of them) - $200

P3 F - Panadapter  - $500
SVGA Video driver card for external display
Directional Power coupler/TX monitor (2 KW 1.8 - 54 Mhz version)

KPA500 F - 500 Watt Amplifier - $1,300

KAT500 F Antenna Auto Antenna Tuner   - $400

K3-0 Remote - $750
RRC-1258 MkII RemoteRig base & remote boxes and cables

microHAM StationMaster - $250
Controls antenna selection & rotor


Thanks for your interest.

W5SV - David F. Reed


From huntinhmb at coastside.net  Tue Jan 28 21:02:47 2020
From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (Brian Hunt)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:02:47 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] problem downloading new (current) firmware from kx3
 FTP site.
In-Reply-To: <2e21bb76-3828-c1aa-5187-ec91802116ff@arrl.net>
References: <2e21bb76-3828-c1aa-5187-ec91802116ff@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <ef0eb4c4-e183-4c6d-a4ff-ae659560fafd@coastside.net>

Are you using Windows 10?? It has a fit when you try to download files 
into its protected directories like? C:\Program Files (x86)\Elecraft\KX3 
Utility.? I don't have the KX3 Utility but the K3 utility has an option 
to place downloaded files somewhere in the User directory.? Windows 
should accommodate this by setting up a directory in 
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData.? Check that out and see if it helps.

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

On 1/28/2020 12:03, Bill Steffey wrote:
> I am doing something wrong , I cannot seem to download current FW with 
> kx3 utility...
>
> What am I doing wrong ..
>
>
> tnx
>
>
> bill
>
> 14:58:39 Opening connection to ftp.elecraft.com
> 14:58:39 Copying files to C:\Program Files (x86)\Elecraft\KX3 Utility
> 14:58:39 FtpGetFile completed with error 0x00000005: Access is denied.
> 14:58:39 Click "Close" to close this window
> 14:58:41 Ready
> 14:58:41 Firmware folder does not contain required KX3 firmware files
> Click "Copy new files from Elecraft"
> or navigate to a folder containing KX3 firmware files
> 14:58:41 Serial Port is closed
> 14:58:41 Attempting to contact KX3 on port COM4 at 38400 bit/s
> 14:58:42 KX3 MCU revision 02.90. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s
>
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From weaverwf at usermail.com  Tue Jan 28 21:53:01 2020
From: weaverwf at usermail.com (Bill Weaver)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:53:01 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 reduced recieve signal
In-Reply-To: <265b8524-fb45-4e0f-5e4a-0f87d8c4b47c@blomand.net>
References: <1580258789613-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<265b8524-fb45-4e0f-5e4a-0f87d8c4b47c@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <9c58741e-a88b-422c-b397-3dfbfb536699@usermail.com>

I just had this happen with an Alpha that I was bringing out of retirement.? Turned out to be dirty relay contacts in the signal path. I can't imaging what would be unique in the amp about data mode. I wouldn't? think the amp would even know. Good luck tracking it down. It's probably something simple. 

73,
Bill WE5P

?Get BlueMail for Android ?

On Jan 28, 2020, 20:25, at 20:25, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>Is your receive bandwidth changing between modes?? I wouldn't think 
>changing the amp would affect the receiver.?? I'd say a more careful 
>evaluation would determine the T/R switch in the amp is the culprit.
>
>73
>
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>On 1/28/2020 6:46 PM, Harry W4HWD wrote:
>> When I switch the amplifier from Standby to Operate, I see and hear a
>> noticeable reduction in received signal strength, both on the S-meter
>and in
>> my headphones. Signal strength goes back up when I switch from
>Operate back
>> to Standby. *Seems to only do it in DATA A mode*. No change on CW.
>Any ideas
>> why? Rig is a K3S, using enhanced mode cables, if that matters.
>>
>> Harry W4HWD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jan 28 21:57:09 2020
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 02:57:09 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
Message-ID: <emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>

Frank,
     Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the 
software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and modes. 
Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone that is 
generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. It all 
becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.

73,
Barry
K3NDM


------ Original Message ------
From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

>Barry,
>
>Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings > Radio page:
>
>-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?
>
>-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS, etc)?
>
>-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Frank
>
>
>On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:
>>Frank,
>>     I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.
>>
>>73,
>>Barry
>>K3NDM
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
>>Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>
>>>I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.
>>>
>>>Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.
>>>
>>>Thanks and 73,
>>>
>>>Frank K6FOD
>>>
>


From n1rm at arrl.net  Tue Jan 28 22:21:36 2020
From: n1rm at arrl.net (Rick Miller - N1RM)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:21:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K4] Remote operation compatibility for K4
Message-ID: <1580268096713-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Will it be possible for a "base" K4 to remotely control a K4D or K4HD?

Rick
N1RM



--
Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/

From w5sv.dave at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 22:51:15 2020
From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:51:15 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Upgraded K3 Station - the KPA500 and KAT500
	have been sold
Message-ID: <4527396D-0D5C-4E12-9F85-4E366FE62A25@gmail.com>

Upgraded K3 Station - the KPA500 and KAT500 have been sold

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed


From w4kx at mac.com  Tue Jan 28 23:31:48 2020
From: w4kx at mac.com (Tom Doligalski)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:31:48 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] problem downloading new (current) firmware from kx3
	FTP site.
In-Reply-To: <ef0eb4c4-e183-4c6d-a4ff-ae659560fafd@coastside.net>
References: <ef0eb4c4-e183-4c6d-a4ff-ae659560fafd@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <C25FBEA3-FF2C-4108-B5B0-6536B31277DA@mac.com>

This is called Controlled Folder Access. I usually switch this off for using apps like the utility files, and turn it back on when I am done.  
Tom W4KX

Sent from my iPad 

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Brian Hunt <huntinhmb at coastside.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Are you using Windows 10?  It has a fit when you try to download files into its protected directories like  C:\Program Files (x86)\Elecraft\KX3 Utility.  I don't have the KX3 Utility but the K3 utility has an option to place downloaded files somewhere in the User directory.  Windows should accommodate this by setting up a directory in C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData.  Check that out and see if it helps.
> 
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
> 
>> On 1/28/2020 12:03, Bill Steffey wrote:
>> I am doing something wrong , I cannot seem to download current FW with kx3 utility...
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong ..
>> 
>> 
>> tnx
>> 
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>> 14:58:39 Opening connection to ftp.elecraft.com
>> 14:58:39 Copying files to C:\Program Files (x86)\Elecraft\KX3 Utility
>> 14:58:39 FtpGetFile completed with error 0x00000005: Access is denied.
>> 14:58:39 Click "Close" to close this window
>> 14:58:41 Ready
>> 14:58:41 Firmware folder does not contain required KX3 firmware files
>> Click "Copy new files from Elecraft"
>> or navigate to a folder containing KX3 firmware files
>> 14:58:41 Serial Port is closed
>> 14:58:41 Attempting to contact KX3 on port COM4 at 38400 bit/s
>> 14:58:42 KX3 MCU revision 02.90. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s
>> 
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From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 00:29:28 2020
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 07:29:28 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
In-Reply-To: <em5b7eb5cf-ae51-4781-96a2-3c45c5ecb6c7@laptop3>
References: <em5b7eb5cf-ae51-4781-96a2-3c45c5ecb6c7@laptop3>
Message-ID: <AC7F776A-7900-44FB-B205-2F2CA4346B07@gmail.com>

I notice a big increase in intelligibility of cw signals in conditions of QSB and even QRN with diversity on 40 through 10 meters (well, at least I have dim memories of 15/12/10 m). 
My antennas are only about 10m apart, but one is a horizontal dipole and the other is a vertically polarized small loop (a ?pixel loop?, now made by DX Engineering). The dipole is also about 5m higher than the loop.

Victor 4X6GP 

> On 29 Jan 2020, at 2:09, Barry <barrylazar2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Frank,
>    Not all of us have your backyard, like me. Using two different polarization will get you there also, And, cross polarization will enhance decoupling between the antennas.
> 
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: donovanf at starpower.net
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 1/28/2020 2:41:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
> 
>> I should have clarified 540 feet of separation on 160 meters,
>> much less on higher bands (e.g. 280 feet on 80, 140 feet on 40)
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: donovanf at starpower.net
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:38:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
>> 
>> 60 feet of antenna separation does not provide diversity capability.
>> Diversity depends on independent fading of received signals,
>> accomplished by at least one wavelength of spacing between two
>> identically polarized antennas or by two antennas with opposite
>> polarization. More than one wavelength of spacing will provide
>> even better diversity performance.
>> 
>> 
>> One wavelength of spacing requires 540 feet of spacing,
>> almost ten times more what you're proposing to use.
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "VernonJ" <k2vjk at k2vjk.com>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:27:31 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
>> 
>> My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with
>> the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.
>> Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to
>> protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts
>> at some point. If I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do
>> this? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From vfo77 at inkbox.net  Wed Jan 29 01:11:53 2020
From: vfo77 at inkbox.net (Frank O'Donnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:11:53 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
Message-ID: <82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>

Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit in 
WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the Windows 
audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. Besides 
toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the K3(s)'s front 
panel, is there anything else you need to set on the rig to make this work?

On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:
> Frank,
> ??? Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the 
> software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and modes. 
> Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone that is 
> generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. It all 
> becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
> To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>
>> Barry,
>>
>> Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's 
>> Settings > Radio page:
>>
>> -- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?
>>
>> -- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is 
>> anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, 
>> DTR/RTS, etc)?
>>
>> -- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as 
>> PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:
>>> Frank,
>>> ??? I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, 
>>> and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that 
>>> came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the 
>>> power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the 
>>> K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA 
>>> temperature. It will definitely rise.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Barry
>>> K3NDM
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>>
>>>> I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, 
>>>> using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.
>>>>
>>>> Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
>>>> multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 
>>>> and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who 
>>>> is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the 
>>>> Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble 
>>>> my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster 
>>>> progress.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and 73,
>>>>
>>>> Frank K6FOD
>>>>
>>
>
>


From ehr at qrv.com  Wed Jan 29 05:40:20 2020
From: ehr at qrv.com (E.H. Russell)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 05:40:20 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
In-Reply-To: <AC7F776A-7900-44FB-B205-2F2CA4346B07@gmail.com>
References: <em5b7eb5cf-ae51-4781-96a2-3c45c5ecb6c7@laptop3>
	<AC7F776A-7900-44FB-B205-2F2CA4346B07@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00f201d5d690$81760dd0$84622970$@qrv.com>

I also get excellent results pairing a 39? vertical with resonant dipoles and inverted vee?s spread around the yard not far away. Because of the close proximity and QRO, I have a RF protector/limiter on the vertical.

 

Ed / w2rf

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:29 AM
To: Barry <barrylazar2 at gmail.com>
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive

 

I notice a big increase in intelligibility of cw signals in conditions of QSB and even QRN with diversity on 40 through 10 meters (well, at least I have dim memories of 15/12/10 m). 

My antennas are only about 10m apart, but one is a horizontal dipole and the other is a vertically polarized small loop (a ?pixel loop?, now made by DX Engineering). The dipole is also about 5m higher than the loop.

 

Victor 4X6GP 

 

> On 29 Jan 2020, at 2:09, Barry < <mailto:barrylazar2 at gmail.com> barrylazar2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> ?Frank,

>    Not all of us have your backyard, like me. Using two different polarization will get you there also, And, cross polarization will enhance decoupling between the antennas.

> 

> 73,

> Barry

> K3NDM

> 

> ------ Original Message ------

> From:  <mailto:donovanf at starpower.net> donovanf at starpower.net

> To:  <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net> elecraft at mailman.qth.net

> Sent: 1/28/2020 2:41:40 PM

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity 

> receive

> 

>> I should have clarified 540 feet of separation on 160 meters, much 

>> less on higher bands (e.g. 280 feet on 80, 140 feet on 40)

>> 

>> 

>> 73

>> Frank

>> W3LPL

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> 

>> From:  <mailto:donovanf at starpower.net> donovanf at starpower.net

>> To:  <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net> elecraft at mailman.qth.net

>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:38:07 PM

>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity 

>> receive

>> 

>> 60 feet of antenna separation does not provide diversity capability.

>> Diversity depends on independent fading of received signals, 

>> accomplished by at least one wavelength of spacing between two 

>> identically polarized antennas or by two antennas with opposite 

>> polarization. More than one wavelength of spacing will provide even 

>> better diversity performance.

>> 

>> 

>> One wavelength of spacing requires 540 feet of spacing, almost ten 

>> times more what you're proposing to use.

>> 

>> 

>> 73

>> Frank

>> W3LPL

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> 

>> From: "VernonJ" < <mailto:k2vjk at k2vjk.com> k2vjk at k2vjk.com>

>> To:  <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net> elecraft at mailman.qth.net

>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:27:31 PM

>> Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity 

>> receive

>> 

>> My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity 

>> receive with the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop.

>> Is there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection 

>> to protect the Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 

>> 500 watts at some point. If I need additional isolation and 

>> protection, how would I do this? Thanks.

>> 

>> 

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From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com  Wed Jan 29 09:06:09 2020
From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 09:06:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Dual Receivers 2 different antennas Diversity receive
In-Reply-To: <1580239651539-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1580239651539-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5E319151.13997.1E74FC19@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>

You could use a device such as the KD9SV  FES "short for Front End Saver" The 
Device removes and grounds the receive antenna input during transmit. Yes it is 
fast enough for QSK. You can also run your PTT line to your amplifier through this 
device. If the Device fails to work that prevents the amplifier from being keyed. 
Contact Info for Gary KD9SV  kd9sv at comcast.net 

John k9uwa


On 28 Jan 2020 at 12:27, VernonJ wrote:

> My K3S has Main and Sub receivers. I would like to use Diversity receive with
> the Main using the transmit antenna, and my Sub using a small receive loop. Is
> there sufficient isolation on the Receive Only antenna connection to protect the
> Sub? Antennas are 60 feet apart, and I intend to run 500 watts at some point. If
> I need additional isolation and protection, how would I do this? Thanks.

John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
k9uwa at arrl.net
Visit our Web Site at:
http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
4836 Ranch Road
Leo, IN 46765
USA
1-260-637-6426


From w4au.john at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 09:38:56 2020
From: w4au.john at gmail.com (John Unger)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 09:38:56 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] No Longer Deaf K3!!!
Message-ID: <CAGC=kt9AidPw_vkdS8dZkrWwyFq2KH-BRQbomK+USjbuajGHzg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Rick, N1RM, and his expertise in tracing circuits, my K3 is back
in FB working order. We found that a switching diode on the bottom
(fortunately) of the RF board had failed. (I think it was D25.). It was a
low cost fix, and with Rick's surface mount skills a replacement was soon
installed.

Rick's main expertise in working with ham equipment is repairing ACOM amps,
but fortunately he had the ability and equipment to help solve my K3's
problem.

Thanks for all the ideas and feedback here on this reflector.

73 - John, W4AU

From w5sv.dave at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 11:17:14 2020
From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:17:14 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Upgraded K3 Station - the KPA500,
 KAT500 and P3 have been sold
Message-ID: <45D9EF3B-6100-4C57-997E-FE3FE5AE166B@gmail.com>

the KPA500, KAT500 and P3 have been sold

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed


From k3ndm at comcast.net  Wed Jan 29 11:38:16 2020
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:38:16 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
	<82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
Message-ID: <embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>

Frank,
     My read of your comments is that it is all OK. If you are getting 
power out, you're on the air. Nothing to do but operate. Pick some 
strong station calling CQ and give him a call. And, see what happens. 
There should be nothing else on the rig to fiddle with at this time.

73,
Barry
K3NDM
------ Original Message ------
From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 1/29/2020 1:11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

>Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit in WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the Windows audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. Besides toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the K3(s)'s front panel, is there anything else you need to set on the rig to make this work?
>
>On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:
>>Frank,
>>     Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and modes. Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone that is generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. It all becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.
>>
>>73,
>>Barry
>>K3NDM
>>
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>
>>>Barry,
>>>
>>>Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings > Radio page:
>>>
>>>-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?
>>>
>>>-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS, etc)?
>>>
>>>-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:
>>>>Frank,
>>>>     I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.
>>>>
>>>>73,
>>>>Barry
>>>>K3NDM
>>>>
>>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>>From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>>>To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
>>>>Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>>>
>>>>>I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks and 73,
>>>>>
>>>>>Frank K6FOD
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Jan 29 11:45:10 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:45:10 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
	<82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
	<embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>
Message-ID: <9aca7366-cda1-d0af-3519-90e4794f9021@blomand.net>

Are you in Data A mode and do you have anything plugged into the Line IN 
on the rear?

Line Gain on the radio is typically is set for 30 to 40 using the MIC 
control on the front panel.?? And with the others,? set the ALC bargraph 
to show 4 to 5 bars and then set the PWR value on the radio to that 
which you desire to operate.? The PWR slider on WSJT-X is set in the 
upper 3/4 of the scale, depending on SPKR level set on the computer.?? I 
use 30 to 35 for SPKR level on the computer.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/29/2020 10:38 AM, Barry wrote:
> Frank,
> ??? My read of your comments is that it is all OK. If you are getting 
> power out, you're on the air. Nothing to do but operate. Pick some 
> strong station calling CQ and give him a call. And, see what happens. 
> There should be nothing else on the rig to fiddle with at this time.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
> To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 1/29/2020 1:11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>
>> Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit 
>> in WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the 
>> Windows audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. 
>> Besides toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the 
>> K3(s)'s front panel, is there anything else you need to set on the 
>> rig to make this work?
>>
>> On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:
>>> Frank,
>>> ??? Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the 
>>> software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and 
>>> modes. Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone 
>>> that is generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. 
>>> It all becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Barry
>>> K3NDM
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>> To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
>>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>>
>>>> Barry,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's 
>>>> Settings > Radio page:
>>>>
>>>> -- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?
>>>>
>>>> -- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so 
>>>> is anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, 
>>>> DTR/RTS, etc)?
>>>>
>>>> -- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as 
>>>> PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split 
>>>> Operation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:
>>>>> Frank,
>>>>> ??? I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, 
>>>>> FT8, and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default 
>>>>> setting that came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and 
>>>>> adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th 
>>>>> flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: 
>>>>> watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Barry
>>>>> K3NDM
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>>>> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, 
>>>>>> using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
>>>>>> multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 
>>>>>> and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who 
>>>>>> is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the 
>>>>>> Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably 
>>>>>> stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make 
>>>>>> faster progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank K6FOD
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Jan 29 13:59:29 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:59:29 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] [K4] Remote operation compatibility for K4
In-Reply-To: <1580268096713-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1580268096713-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <3AD5AD76-C221-42C8-97A3-C215A0F122E4@elecraft.com>

Yes. That's built in, and it's one way we demo the K4 at hamfests. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 28, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Rick Miller - N1RM <n1rm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Will it be possible for a "base" K4 to remotely control a K4D or K4HD?
> 
> Rick
> N1RM
> 
> 
> 
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From hlstephenson at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 14:10:54 2020
From: hlstephenson at gmail.com (Howard Stephenson)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 11:10:54 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] FS K3
Message-ID: <CAA-f8tpAE5U=GH02C5FEeQC=kAAz7V_uU7e+ukeP4g_ft2bi+A@mail.gmail.com>

Selling my K3/100 SN 6010, comes with ATU, SUB, DVR, and a KBPF3 in main.
Has been upgraded with KIO3B, KSYN3A's and  KXV3B
Comes with 13, 2.8, 2.1, .400, .200 filters in main
2.8 and .400 filters in SUB.
Included USB and power cable, MH2, and KE7X book.
Asking $2,200 shipped in the lower 48

Howard Stephenson K6IA
Las Vegas, NV

From vfo77 at inkbox.net  Wed Jan 29 21:35:31 2020
From: vfo77 at inkbox.net (Frank O'Donnell)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 18:35:31 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <9aca7366-cda1-d0af-3519-90e4794f9021@blomand.net>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
	<82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
	<embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>
	<9aca7366-cda1-d0af-3519-90e4794f9021@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <c9f7e42e-d3fd-fc1a-f73e-7889084c65f6@inkbox.net>

Bob,

First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in 
transverter mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've successfully 
used CAT control with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx JT9 and WSPR. My 
objective now is to use the K3S in VOX mode with a Windows 10 desktop 
running two instances of WSJT-X, and one instance each of SlowJT9 and 
JS8Call. I'm told that a number of ops do this with other brands of rigs 
to allow the decoders to rx simultaneously, and to tx with any of them 
without any reconfig necessary (though obviously only one app can be 
used to transmit at any given time). At this point, I have all the 
decoders running simultaneously and successfully decoding incoming 
signals. Now I'm just working on getting VOX mode working to transmit.

As things stand now, when I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the 
Windows audio system indicates that audio is going out to the USB Codec.

To answer your questions, nothing is plugged into the Line In on the K3S 
rear panel. When I started working on this, the K3S was in split mode 
with Data B selected. In order to get into Data A, I first needed to 
disable split mode. I then enabled VOX. The levels you mentioned all 
appear to be set appropriately.

Now, if I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the K3S reenables 
split mode and switches to Data B. The red transmit light never comes on.

Undoubtedly there's another setting I need to do something with?

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD



On 1/29/20 8:45 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> Are you in Data A mode and do you have anything plugged into the Line 
> IN on the rear?
>
> Line Gain on the radio is typically is set for 30 to 40 using the MIC 
> control on the front panel.?? And with the others,? set the ALC 
> bargraph to show 4 to 5 bars and then set the PWR value on the radio 
> to that which you desire to operate.? The PWR slider on WSJT-X is set 
> in the upper 3/4 of the scale, depending on SPKR level set on the 
> computer.?? I use 30 to 35 for SPKR level on the computer.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 1/29/2020 10:38 AM, Barry wrote:
>> Frank,
>> ??? My read of your comments is that it is all OK. If you are getting 
>> power out, you're on the air. Nothing to do but operate. Pick some 
>> strong station calling CQ and give him a call. And, see what happens. 
>> There should be nothing else on the rig to fiddle with at this time.
>>
>> 73,
>> Barry
>> K3NDM
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>> To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: 1/29/2020 1:11:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>
>>> Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit 
>>> in WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the 
>>> Windows audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. 
>>> Besides toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the 
>>> K3(s)'s front panel, is there anything else you need to set on the 
>>> rig to make this work?
>>>
>>> On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:
>>>> Frank,
>>>> ??? Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow 
>>>> the software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and 
>>>> modes. Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone 
>>>> that is generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. 
>>>> It all becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have 
>>>> fun.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Barry
>>>> K3NDM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>>> To: "Barry" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" 
>>>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>>>
>>>>> Barry,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's 
>>>>> Settings > Radio page:
>>>>>
>>>>> -- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so 
>>>>> is anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, 
>>>>> DTR/RTS, etc)?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected 
>>>>> as PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split 
>>>>> Operation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:
>>>>>> Frank,
>>>>>> ??? I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, 
>>>>>> FT8, and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default 
>>>>>> setting that came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 
>>>>>> and adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th 
>>>>>> flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: 
>>>>>> watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>> K3NDM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Frank O'Donnell" <vfo77 at inkbox.net>
>>>>>> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>> Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long 
>>>>>>> time, using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT 
>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable 
>>>>>>> running multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same 
>>>>>>> band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could 
>>>>>>> anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how 
>>>>>>> they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can 
>>>>>>> probably stumble my way through, but some pointers would 
>>>>>>> undoubtedly make faster progress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank K6FOD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>


From vfo77 at inkbox.net  Wed Jan 29 21:42:02 2020
From: vfo77 at inkbox.net (Frank O'Donnell)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 18:42:02 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-xeHnM7dsc6C6QYYj8t1CUAGi2_UV4v_F2_zBfZ3NYQo74Gg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ-xeHnM7dsc6C6QYYj8t1CUAGi2_UV4v_F2_zBfZ3NYQo74Gg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3b86e4dd-45e5-2d60-5bb5-4c74ec3442d4@inkbox.net>

Rich,

I don't think CAT control is necessary in this case, because in this 
configuration, all of the tx/rx is on one band (630m) and one frequency 
(474.2 kHz, used by JT9, WSPR and other digital modes, unlike HF bands 
where they are on different frequencies). I haven't yet found anyone 
else with a K3/K3S operating in this configuration on that band, but a 
number of ops with other brands of rigs set things up this way, with 
several decoders running all in VOX mode. I assume there must be a way 
to do this with the K3S.

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD


On 1/28/20 1:52 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:
> However, you also said you wanted to run multiple instances of WSJT-X.
> That's a different matter, and PTT/VOX is only a small part of it. If you
> try to run more than one instance of WSJT-X, only the first instance will
> be able to use CAT control. Any other instances will not be able to open
> the serial port used to control the radio, so they will not have CAT
> control of any kind, including not only PTT control, but also frequency and
> mode control.
>
> JT9 uses CAT control not only for PTT, but also for frequency control
> (split operation, and/or specific frequencies for different modes on
> various bands). The instance you use for JT9 and similar modes should
> probably have full CAT control. WSPR, on the other hand, does not really
> need CAT control once you have tuned the transceiver to the correct
> frequency for the band.


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan 29 21:59:07 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:59:07 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <c9f7e42e-d3fd-fc1a-f73e-7889084c65f6@inkbox.net>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
	<82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
	<embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>
	<9aca7366-cda1-d0af-3519-90e4794f9021@blomand.net>
	<c9f7e42e-d3fd-fc1a-f73e-7889084c65f6@inkbox.net>
Message-ID: <f8ff2fa3-7915-2e0a-f64e-464cedc503d5@embarqmail.com>

Frank,

Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the most 
reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.  Set it in the application and 
you will have no problem.

If your problem is related to audio levels, refer to my website 
www.w3fpr.com.  Scroll the left column to the last article and click to 
open the page.  No matter whether you are operating from the transverter 
mode or the normal antenna, you must have 4 bars solid with the 5th bar 
flashing on the ALC meter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/29/2020 9:35 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in 
> transverter mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've successfully 
> used CAT control with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx JT9 and WSPR. My 
> objective now is to use the K3S in VOX mode with a Windows 10 desktop 
> running two instances of WSJT-X, 

From kw4cz49 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 22:05:44 2020
From: kw4cz49 at gmail.com (Charles G. Saunders)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 22:05:44 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
Message-ID: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>

Hi all,
Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
73, KW4CZ  Gordon

From nv4c.ian at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 22:10:16 2020
From: nv4c.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 22:10:16 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1Md6FVTjqr7u7pzZ_KUkKwEx9ZdSxnr4+Z1C+Ws33dc4X0pg@mail.gmail.com>

I have a KX2.

Ian, NV4C

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 10:06 PM Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From vfo77 at inkbox.net  Wed Jan 29 22:36:57 2020
From: vfo77 at inkbox.net (Frank O'Donnell)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:36:57 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <f8ff2fa3-7915-2e0a-f64e-464cedc503d5@embarqmail.com>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
	<82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
	<embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>
	<9aca7366-cda1-d0af-3519-90e4794f9021@blomand.net>
	<c9f7e42e-d3fd-fc1a-f73e-7889084c65f6@inkbox.net>
	<f8ff2fa3-7915-2e0a-f64e-464cedc503d5@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <d9665222-4bcd-1ff1-6c85-ebf61ac941f5@inkbox.net>

Don,

Thanks for the comment.

CAT has always been the PTT method I've used with WSJT-X, and it's been 
very successful. It would normally be my first choice.

However, I just ran across this interesting configuration that some 
number of 630m ops are using, using other brands of rigs. Since all of 
the digital modes on 630m are based off the same frequency of 474.2 kHz, 
they set their rigs to that frequency and then use VOX control to allow 
several decoders on the same PC to rx simultaneously, and tx one at a 
time without any reconfiguration. I gather this couldn't be done if the 
decoder apps used CAT, as only one app can have CAT control of the rig 
at any time.

So I wanted to give this a try. So far I have several decoders receiving 
simultaneously from the K3S, and it's nice to have JT9, WSPR, SlowJT9 
and JS8 all being decoded at the same time. I'm just having challenges 
getting transmitting to work with VOX. I know the PC is sending audio 
out the USB Codec when I hit the Tune button in WSJT-X, and I know VOX 
works on my K3S because I use it for CW. Just trying to knit the final 
details together.

73,

Frank K6FOD


On 1/29/20 6:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Frank,
>
> Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the most 
> reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.? Set it in the application and 
> you will have no problem.
>
> If your problem is related to audio levels, refer to my website 
> www.w3fpr.com.? Scroll the left column to the last article and click 
> to open the page.? No matter whether you are operating from the 
> transverter mode or the normal antenna, you must have 4 bars solid 
> with the 5th bar flashing on the ALC meter.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/29/2020 9:35 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in 
>> transverter mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've 
>> successfully used CAT control with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx 
>> JT9 and WSPR. My objective now is to use the K3S in VOX mode with a 
>> Windows 10 desktop running two instances of WSJT-X, 
>


From k7sss at aol.com  Wed Jan 29 22:44:13 2020
From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 03:44:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
References: <1993021072.82283.1580355853261.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1993021072.82283.1580355853261@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Gordon,I have a KX2 s/n under 250. I'm not a hiker but I operate on the ocean beaches in WA state and up at Mt Rainier NP. In the field I use the AX1 ant on a camera tripod. Works very well. The only mod was the 2nd harmonic mod to the transmitter. Excellent portable/field radio!Enjoy 73Jim Hk7sss at aol.com
In a message dated 1/29/2020 7:08:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, kw4cz49 at gmail.com writes:

Hi all,Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.73, KW4CZ? Gordon______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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From nw8l at whitemesa.com  Wed Jan 29 22:59:33 2020
From: nw8l at whitemesa.com (Robert Cunnings)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 20:59:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <c9f7e42e-d3fd-fc1a-f73e-7889084c65f6@inkbox.net>
References: <66049ddf-7e18-c472-bb42-88c1264850a2@inkbox.net>
	<em2b6957dc-1295-4974-bb5d-bf8699dcf354@office-desktop-i>
	<76767619-cd21-3474-4aa3-b0a8b07fa40b@inkbox.net>
	<emcaf75c6b-841b-4a38-aff8-ca971ade2416@laptop3>
	<82afefee-ba7d-b5ee-f8b0-72013e8eb1a9@inkbox.net>
	<embe15df9d-fda9-4407-8c41-f18bd3fefc8a@office-desktop-i>
	<9aca7366-cda1-d0af-3519-90e4794f9021@blomand.net>
	<c9f7e42e-d3fd-fc1a-f73e-7889084c65f6@inkbox.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2001292056570.10042@iota.whitemesa.net>

What is your VOX gain setting?

Bob NW8L

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, Frank O'Donnell wrote:

> Bob,
>
> First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in transverter 
> mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've successfully used CAT control 
> with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx JT9 and WSPR. My objective now is to 
> use the K3S in VOX mode with a Windows 10 desktop running two instances of 
> WSJT-X, and one instance each of SlowJT9 and JS8Call. I'm told that a number 
> of ops do this with other brands of rigs to allow the decoders to rx 
> simultaneously, and to tx with any of them without any reconfig necessary 
> (though obviously only one app can be used to transmit at any given time). At 
> this point, I have all the decoders running simultaneously and successfully 
> decoding incoming signals. Now I'm just working on getting VOX mode working 
> to transmit.
>
> As things stand now, when I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the 
> Windows audio system indicates that audio is going out to the USB Codec.
>
> To answer your questions, nothing is plugged into the Line In on the K3S rear 
> panel. When I started working on this, the K3S was in split mode with Data B 
> selected. In order to get into Data A, I first needed to disable split mode. 
> I then enabled VOX. The levels you mentioned all appear to be set 
> appropriately.
>
> Now, if I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the K3S reenables split 
> mode and switches to Data B. The red transmit light never comes on.
>
> Undoubtedly there's another setting I need to do something with?
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Frank K6FOD
>
>

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jan 30 01:19:14 2020
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 22:19:14 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <EE04A819-D5B4-4FB2-9082-735F3FC5AC64@elecraft.com>

Hi Gordon,

It's a safe bet that there are a thousand or more KX2 owners represented on this list. There are also many frequenting the KX2/KX3-specific list, Elecraft-KX at groups.io. 

I use mine every weekend :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Jan 29, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From k7sss at aol.com  Thu Jan 30 01:30:15 2020
From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 06:30:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
References: <1518830274.81654.1580365815480.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1518830274.81654.1580365815480@mail.yahoo.com>


Hi Dan,
Look on the Elecraft site under Support, KX2 enhancements. I hope I have link copied right!

https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX2/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/E740304%20Inst,%20mod%20kit%20KX2,%20harm%20supp,%20rev%20B.pdf
73
Jim HIn a message dated 1/29/2020 9:34:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, dpresley1 at comcast.net writes:

Can you detail the 2nd harmonic mod! Haven?t ever heard about it. Thanks 

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley at me. com 
N7CQR at arrl.net


> On Jan 29, 2020, at 19:45, Jim H via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon,I have a KX2 s/n under 250. I'm not a hiker but I operate on the ocean beaches in WA state and up at Mt Rainier NP. In the field I use the AX1 ant on a camera tripod. Works very well. The only mod was the 2nd harmonic mod to the transmitter. Excellent portable/field radio!Enjoy 73Jim Hk7sss at aol.com
>

From gordon.lapoint at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 04:07:01 2020
From: gordon.lapoint at gmail.com (Gordon LaPoint)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 04:07:01 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted: KPA500 and KAT500
Message-ID: <3600afc8-2895-c4d5-1aeb-ba76bbc3dbce@gmail.com>

I'm looking for a used KPA500 and KAT500, in good working condition.

Thanks,

Gordon - N1MGO?? n1mgo at arrl.net


From tim.n9puz at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 07:47:23 2020
From: tim.n9puz at gmail.com (Tim N9PUZ)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 06:47:23 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAPDwUVx+Xg_9WsW37FQ_x2VtPuoXTfz5j3hsnCu5GnBt47P7hw@mail.gmail.com>

I have used a KX2 for several years. Very pleased with it overall. I use it
portable at home to make operating outdoors easy but I also enjoy SOTA and
POTA operations when time and location permit. For a time I used it as my
only rig coupled with a KXPA-100 amplifier. It has a very nice, well
thought out, feature set.

Tim N9PUZ

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:07 PM Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Thu Jan 30 10:32:35 2020
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 10:32:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <f8ff2fa3-7915-2e0a-f64e-464cedc503d5@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10146i-81C0266974184635B152487F8639725D@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

VOX is a lot easier to configure for digital modes than is is 
for voice because, all the digital modes -- at least that I know 
about -- are either on or off. None of them use different volume 
levels to encode data. This means that you just have to find a 
setting between zero volume and full volume, and it will work 
well for keying the radio. If use VOX for voice, the same 
setting should work for digital.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/29/20 at 9:59 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

>Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the 
>most reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.  Set it in the 
>application and you will have no problem.

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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Thu Jan 30 11:20:14 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 10:20:14 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10146i-81C0266974184635B152487F8639725D@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10146i-81C0266974184635B152487F8639725D@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <fece8f24-bc07-516c-47b1-92f6a2f26265@blomand.net>

The major issue I've found in using VOX for data modes lies in the fact 
that any noise {hum,? buzz, clicks, broadband noise, Windows sounds, 
RFI, etc.} coming out of the computer can and will trigger the VOX.? 
This is specially true if the VOX gain is too high.? Also, the VOX delay 
does affect turn-a-round time and must be set to minimum.? That in 
itself then requires the operator to change VOX gain and Delay when 
reverting to SSB.? Of course if one doesn't use VOX for SSB it is a non 
issue.? And if in digital modes the VOX Gain is high and such that the 
system is driven into distortion, VOX audio chain, that will affect the 
delay time.

I agree with Don in that I find CAT is the better and most assured mode 
for transitioning between RX and TX.?? As to CW using VOX with the K3S, 
that is totally internal to the radio.? A very different condition than 
one running an external application.

At the same time, I am not exactly clear on using multiple decoders.? I 
presume from what I've read, then each decoder has the option to 
transmit.? Thus the issue of conflicts with port assignments will likely 
arise.?? Me, I prefer to keep life simple and use one mode at at time, 
running the application from the base application and not from within 
other applications.?? I find life to be simpler and much less stressful 
but more reliable, thus not having to frequently determining what 
changed and why it doesn't work today.

This is totally independent on running one application and one decoder 
or multiple applications and decoders.?? It is not a race, it is a 
hobby.?? Thus coming in first has little merit.

Just remember, we are all going to get to the same place at sometime in 
the future. ? The mortuary cooling slab could likely be one place.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/30/2020 9:32 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> VOX is a lot easier to configure for digital modes than is is for 
> voice because, all the digital modes -- at least that I know about -- 
> are either on or off. None of them use different volume levels to 
> encode data. This means that you just have to find a setting between 
> zero volume and full volume, and it will work well for keying the 
> radio. If use VOX for voice, the same setting should work for digital.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 1/29/20 at 9:59 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:
>
>> Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the most 
>> reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.? Set it in the application 
>> and you will have no problem.
>
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From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jan 30 11:45:11 2020
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:45:11 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <598A13F6-30F5-4872-B6CC-7F68CF105C1A@me.com>

Yup, I?ve got one here - it keeps my K3-Line company. Use it for QRP operating, usually in the back yard when weather permits. Nice little rig.

Jim / W6JHB

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From indians at xsmail.com  Thu Jan 30 12:07:13 2020
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 10:07:13 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] No Longer Deaf K3!!!
In-Reply-To: <CAGC=kt9AidPw_vkdS8dZkrWwyFq2KH-BRQbomK+USjbuajGHzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGC=kt9AidPw_vkdS8dZkrWwyFq2KH-BRQbomK+USjbuajGHzg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1580404033757-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

John,

big congrats! happy to hear that you have your K3 back in perfect order.
See you on the air soon and enjoy your K3 again.





-----
73 - Petr, OK1RP 
"Apple & Elecraft freak"
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MeWe: https://bit.ly/2FmwvDt
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From indians at xsmail.com  Thu Jan 30 12:29:34 2020
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 10:29:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 On The Air!
In-Reply-To: <CAMDFhzRPeX1EoY76jnhKy1Y1vpK76PmPRWEvpz1rNCfYZA3_Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDFhzRPeX1EoY76jnhKy1Y1vpK76PmPRWEvpz1rNCfYZA3_Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1580405374026-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Mark, big congrats!
I am really happy that you successfully finished your K2 and it is working
as it should.
You made a great job!
I have my own K2 #4800 still in the setup and I will never sell it as I like
it too much :)
I am sure you will make a lot of nice QSOs and you will enjoy it.
See you on the air soon.




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"Apple & Elecraft freak"
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From rglogan73 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 12:51:11 2020
From: rglogan73 at gmail.com (Ron Wilcox)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 10:51:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 and KAT500 for sale
Message-ID: <CABVxxD1xNgvHUXujvnEcMgsabkNRi6y-NHffCeX30jk+POOZ+A@mail.gmail.com>

I am going to upgrade to a KPA1500 and as such I am selling my amp and
tuner. I have loved them, they have been excellent, but I will be going
from great elecraft gear to great elecraft gear. I got these out of the
boxes, placed them in my shack and they have stayed there. They have not
been moved around, out in the weather, borrowed by anyone, etc.



For sale:

KAT500F (Factory Assembled) s/n 02619- 500$

KPA500F (Factory Assembled) s/n 03562-2100$

If bought together- 2400$, includes Fred Cady book

I pay shipping in US

Excellent condition, non-smoking environment,

Original manuals, never used

Photocopy of manuals for daily use

*Today is a good day to have a great day!*
Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
RN, BSN
Utah DX Association Board of Directors
ARRL Instructor
ARRL & W5YI Volunteer Examiner
Davis County Assistant Emergency Coordinator (ARES)

From w5sv.dave at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 13:40:07 2020
From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:40:07 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Upgraded K3 Station - SP3s,
 KPA500 KAT500 and P3 have been sold
Message-ID: <53782D27-8A7B-4CD3-B3DA-7DFCB0DE3901@gmail.com>

Subject line says it all (thanks  for bandwidth) - SP3s, KPA500 KAT500 and P3 have been sold.  Only K3 and StationMaster remaining.

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed


From donovanf at starpower.net  Thu Jan 30 13:54:29 2020
From: donovanf at starpower.net (donovanf at starpower.net)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:54:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Diversity Comments
In-Reply-To: <1878300191.183041.1580392839162@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <626770224.3042829.1580410469627.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>

Hi Dennis, 


I don't intend to discourage experimentation, but its useful to be aware 
of the underlying science before investing time, money and effort with 
low probability of a successful outcome. 


The type of diversity we employ -- two receivers feeding two human ears -- 
isn't likely to improve SNR for signals buried in noise. Its greatest benefit 
is in combating fading. Some independence in fading characteristics can 
be obtained either with: 
- two antennas of the same polarization separated by about 
one wavelength or ideally more, or 
- two antennas of opposite polarization. 


Antennas very close to the ground -- for example, Beverages and BOGs -- 
are always vertically polarized, NEVER horizontal. Why? The electric 
field of the horizontally polarized radiation broadside to a wire close to 
the ground -- or laying on the ground -- is effectively "shorted out" by 
its proximity to conductive soil. 


But a horizontal wire has vertical polarization off the end of the wire. 
The electric field off the end of the wire is perpendicular to the ground 
and is not "shorted out" but its still lossy when the antenna is very close 
or especially when laying directly on conductive ground. 


A BOG performs best when its not laid directly on soil, it should be kept 
at least supported a few inches above the soil by vegetation or other means. 
The only exception is if the BOG is laid on sand having little to no moisture 
or organic content. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Dennis W0JX" <w0jx at yahoo.com> 
To: donovanf at starpower.net 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:00:39 PM 
Subject: Diversity Comments 

Good Morning Frank, 

Thank you for your complete and useful comments regarding diversity reception. I have been operating my K3 in diversity since I purchased it in 2009 without understanding the technical requirements for useful diversity receive. 

There is no way that I can achieve a wavelength or even half wavelength separation between my receive antennas! I use a Hi-Z 4 square RX antenna system which I always have connected to the K3 sub RX. That system, of course, is vertically polarized. 

I initially began using 450 foot beverages into the Main RX and that seemed to provide some diversity RX benefits. These were separated from the HiZ system by about 100 feet. However, due to growing noise sources surrounding me, I had to abandon these antennas. 

Then in 2012, I began to experiment with flag loops connected similar to DHDL's. These have proven to be much lower noise antennas and have been my favorite receiving antennas for some time. Because these are vertically polarized, I assume that diversity reception does not occur because the HiZ system is also vertically polarized. 

My main question to you is this: For diversity to work, is it necessary for BOTH antennas to actually hear the DX signal? This seems logical to me but so often on 160 or 80, one antenna system hears the DX station and the other does not depending on angle of arrival of the DX signal. 

Perhaps diversity receive is not as useful as it appears to be if your conditions cannot be met. On the other hand, isn't there some added benefit from the combining of signals? 

BTW, I am installing two 300 foot phased BOGS aimed north. It will be interesting to see how they will perform in diversity mode since they are horizontally polarized. 

161 and hope to work you in the Marathon this weekend. 

Dennis W0JX 
Milan OH 




From FlatHat at comcast.net  Thu Jan 30 13:58:33 2020
From: FlatHat at comcast.net (Richard)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:58:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] SWR Calculation
Message-ID: <E2B53E85-A24F-4925-B9A3-77A53CE2F9F2@comcast.net>

Is there any way to make the KPA500 display reflected power?

Cheers,

Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
FlatHat at comcast.net

From ny9h at arrl.net  Thu Jan 30 14:54:49 2020
From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 14:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <CAPDwUVx+Xg_9WsW37FQ_x2VtPuoXTfz5j3hsnCu5GnBt47P7hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
	<CAPDwUVx+Xg_9WsW37FQ_x2VtPuoXTfz5j3hsnCu5GnBt47P7hw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a7739617-9353-7403-0bdb-f3fe1b029024@arrl.net>

I have a KX2?? serial # 41? .. which I have had since the beginning. I 
remember hustling over to the Elecraft booth at DAYTON, as they 
announced the radio & instant availability at Dayton ( 50 some sets at 
the fest)...


My KX2 is mounted in my VW right where I wanted it !!!! drives the 
KXPA100 to a screwdriver on the roof rack. Works great on 80 meters, and 
the world on 40 &? 20 etc..

After trying every mini pelican case and many photo bags, I currently 
travel with it wrapped in clothing in the suitcase. It is so small,? any 
case seems to add unnecessary bulk. The mini photo bags carry the 
antenna line and a? little cheap headset.

on my qrz page there are two pictures , one on the Atlantic shore and 
the other on Grismey Island? north of Iceland in the Arctic Circle. ? I 
am pedestrian mobile with a drag counterpoise line.

 ? ( https://www.qrz.com/lookup/NY9H )


bill?????????? ny9h at arrl.net


From rglogan73 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 16:52:20 2020
From: rglogan73 at gmail.com (Ron Wilcox)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 14:52:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K2TE Cannot get through on your email about amp and
	tuners for sale
Message-ID: <CABVxxD24M-xnv5wxwmhBq+eR9Rf=n=OtjX-dhQ8EDDxUgePgKA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to take everyones bandwidth. Tony I cannot get emails to go through
to you, please use a different email or give me your phone number. Thanks.

*Today is a good day to have a great day!*
Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
RN, BSN
Utah DX Association Board of Directors
ARRL Instructor
ARRL & W5YI Volunteer Examiner
Davis County Assistant Emergency Coordinator (ARES)

From KD7RJ at frontier.com  Thu Jan 30 19:22:03 2020
From: KD7RJ at frontier.com (Ron Gould)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:22:03 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s For Sale Loaded
Message-ID: <BE11C263-749C-4ECE-A48B-3FB9C21B0CB4@frontier.com>

K3s 100 watt Transceiver
KAT3A Antenna Tuner
KRX3A Subreceiver
2-KFL3C 200 HZ Filter CW
2-KFL3C 400 HZ Filter CW
2-KFL3C 2.80 HZ Filter SSB
2-KFL3C 600 KHZ Filter AM
2-KFL3A 1300 KHZ Filter FM
KBPF3A Pass Band Filter
KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder
KCTX03 High Stability Oscillator 
K3s Book from Fred Cady
Operating Manual
$4000 Pickup 
Portland Oregon
$4100 shipped insured and professionally packed lower48
Prices are firm
Please respond off list

From john.evans.n0hj at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 19:28:53 2020
From: john.evans.n0hj at gmail.com (John Evans)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 17:28:53 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s For Sale Loaded
In-Reply-To: <BE11C263-749C-4ECE-A48B-3FB9C21B0CB4@frontier.com>
References: <BE11C263-749C-4ECE-A48B-3FB9C21B0CB4@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <CAEtP=8uE-LzOH9S9u4tpn2hZL5Ff=iRCyOL1HmQmz+PKgPyOag@mail.gmail.com>

Why the restriction in shipping to the lower 48 only?   Shipping to Alaska
or Hawaii may cost a little more but I've not seen any reason for such a
restriction.

I respect and welcome your reply.

John - n0hj


On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 5:22 PM Ron Gould <KD7RJ at frontier.com> wrote:

> K3s 100 watt Transceiver
> KAT3A Antenna Tuner
> KRX3A Subreceiver
> 2-KFL3C 200 HZ Filter CW
> 2-KFL3C 400 HZ Filter CW
> 2-KFL3C 2.80 HZ Filter SSB
> 2-KFL3C 600 KHZ Filter AM
> 2-KFL3A 1300 KHZ Filter FM
> KBPF3A Pass Band Filter
> KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder
> KCTX03 High Stability Oscillator
> K3s Book from Fred Cady
> Operating Manual
> $4000 Pickup
> Portland Oregon
> $4100 shipped insured and professionally packed lower48
> Prices are firm
> Please respond off list
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From kengkopp at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 18:47:47 2020
From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:47:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] Fred Caddy's "The KX Line"
In-Reply-To: <B7C7C195-6610-493E-930F-4258B606B37C@logullo.com>
References: <DB13FC29-D563-4BE9-81CB-E6448963C873@yahoo.com>
	<B7C7C195-6610-493E-930F-4258B606B37C@logullo.com>
Message-ID: <CAD4CdTPTVpychMKaWK6dU8ey8vZNFrVovmFhHHs_tPq9yNyN3w@mail.gmail.com>

Been to that site via helicopter a number of times.  Fred has operated SO2R
using my station.  He was indeed a fine operator.  His sudden passing was
an unexpected shock to us all.

Trivia ... The building's floor was / is patterned with hundreds of nails
driven through from the inside to discourage the marmots from chewing
through the floor from below to get at the plastic bottles of battery water.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 16:22 Jeff Logullo N0?MII <jeff at logullo.com> wrote:

> I did a double-take just now while reading the Feb. 2020 issue of QST.
> Page 104 hosts the ?100, 50, and 25 Years Ago? feature. Guess who was on
> the cover of the Feb. 1995 issue? None other than Fred Cady KE7X...
>
>
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From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan 30 20:35:18 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 01:35:18 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB68709A54DFFACD6DFD5EAD5D9C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

You won't hear much about a fantastic radio.  I have used lots of QRP radios and the KX2 beats the crap out of all, including the other Elecraft QRP radios for size and true portability.  It is my best ever go to portable. Now if Wayne could shrink it more?

Have a great day!
Bill

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:05:44 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

Hi all,
Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Thu Jan 30 21:24:07 2020
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:24:07 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] SWR Calculation
In-Reply-To: <E2B53E85-A24F-4925-B9A3-77A53CE2F9F2@comcast.net>
References: <E2B53E85-A24F-4925-B9A3-77A53CE2F9F2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <244551df-7159-6c9e-4b46-e27fd199ed72@blomand.net>

Not directly that I'm aware.?? Personally, I have a Bird 43P on the 
output of the amp.? That way I can read the forward power and then 
reflected power with a reasonable amount of accuracy.?? Then using the 
Bird VSWR Nomograph I can accurately determine VSWR.

With 500 watts output then if the reflected value is:

0.6 watts = VSWR 1.07

1.1 watts = VSWR 1.1

2.5 watts = VSWR 1.15

5.0 watts = VSWR 1.22

8.5 watts = VSWR 1.3

15 watts =? VSWR 1.4

28 watts = VSWR 1.6

55 watts = VSWR 2.0

If you have more than that, you need to do some antenna work.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/30/2020 12:58 PM, Richard wrote:
> Is there any way to make the KPA500 display rateflected power?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX
> FlatHat at comcast.net
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From rglogan73 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 21:28:24 2020
From: rglogan73 at gmail.com (Ron Wilcox)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:28:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 and KAT500 sold
Message-ID: <CABVxxD3MfMunxZsrC0iKFetHeYKVh8gu66Guq6-jqkQHecFKbA@mail.gmail.com>

The amp and tuner for KF7ZN, Ron have sold, thanks for all of the interest.

*Today is a good day to have a great day!*
Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
RN, BSN
Utah DX Association Board of Directors
ARRL Instructor
ARRL & W5YI Volunteer Examiner
Davis County Assistant Emergency Coordinator (ARES)

From jm416 at optonline.net  Thu Jan 30 21:33:45 2020
From: jm416 at optonline.net (John W2XS)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:33:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1580438025190-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I rode my bike to the beach and made a few QSOs with the KX2 and AX1. I put a
picture on my QRZ.com page. It is easy for me to remember my radio's S/N =
1234! There have been many successful outings to  beaches on the north and
south shores of Long Island with the LICW and LIQRP clubs.

73, John W2XS



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From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 22:18:58 2020
From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:18:58 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB68709A54DFFACD6DFD5EAD5D9C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
	<CH2PR02MB68709A54DFFACD6DFD5EAD5D9C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAJSJeL3oxWGmqqoE=RXqB21EP1GS-sGOS8uRxgaWzj==cQYSMA@mail.gmail.com>

Them's fightin' words!

When you have local interference, NOTHING beats a KX3 and it's superior
adjacent frequency rejection!

When you're XC skiing, every ounce counts, and you need bulletproof
durabilty, NOTHING beats a KX1 in a Pelican 1060 micro-case!  I've fallen
on mine dozens of times!

When you need a cute microrig, NOTHING beats a K1!

And when you want the best radio you can build yourself, a dreamy CW rig,
NOTHING beats a K2!

But yes, a KX2 is a damn fine radio, and a mixture of all of the above.

I am happy to still use them ALL!

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 5:35 PM Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:

> You won't hear much about a fantastic radio.  I have used lots of QRP
> radios and the KX2 beats the crap out of all, including the other Elecraft
> QRP radios for size and true portability.  It is my best ever go to
> portable. Now if Wayne could shrink it more?
>
>

From kw4cz49 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 22:37:56 2020
From: kw4cz49 at gmail.com (Charles G. Saunders)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 22:37:56 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Any KX2 Users....
Message-ID: <k1m7di44r910mfokufc9gf4c.1580441876908@email.android.com>

Well, I think my question has been answered and validated. By the Whiskers of Gabby Hayes... All  you old guys know who I am talking about...
I feel like I'm in good company of KX2 fans. When I run up against a problem that needs the Logic of Spock .. I know where to ask.
Many, many thanks to all that replied.
Plans are to activate my first POTA in the very near future. Next week.
Y'all listen out for the OM trying to get it altogether with a KX2.
73, KW4CZ. Gordon

From gary at benden.com  Thu Jan 30 22:40:21 2020
From: gary at benden.com (Gary Harrold)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 03:40:21 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 tuner
Message-ID: <SN6PR12MB2638172DE4444188B03FA3D1BE070@SN6PR12MB2638.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

After indicating a good match, example 7285, the radio will flash HIGH SWR momentarily on the next attempt to transmit and then no further message but little or no power out.  Using external tuner with either antenna output it operates as expected.

Gary W. Harrold
Retired, Amateur Radio Active
WA5TED
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From oldmanshu at icloud.com  Thu Jan 30 23:20:18 2020
From: oldmanshu at icloud.com (Joseph Shuman)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 23:20:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
Message-ID: <46E06DF0-2AED-4508-9B64-471B0E8E95B3@icloud.com>

I have been using a KX2 with the ATU a little over a year, my first and only radio.  I love it and have had great success in field throwing a 58? wire up a tree and a 13? counterpoise on the ground.  Been experimenting with different antenna at home, so far a folded dipole using about 128-130? of wire being the best performer on 80/40/20m.  I put together an external power supply using a security system sealed 12V battery in a small plastic ammo box, an auto lighter plug and a cheap voltmeter.  I have operated for over two hours at 10W using this battery rig and the whole station fits in a small $15.00 backpack.

You are not mistaken, however, posts regarding the KX2 are few and far between.  The radio is simply that good!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 22:05, Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon

From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan 30 23:26:04 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 04:26:04 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <46E06DF0-2AED-4508-9B64-471B0E8E95B3@icloud.com>
References: <46E06DF0-2AED-4508-9B64-471B0E8E95B3@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB687011F8065EC4BF4D8E55819C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Shut, for a ham of over 60 years, your post inspires me to get more involved,  find new stuff to do.   I am getting into VHF-UHF again but will always be on the air looking for contacts.   Good luck with your pursuits!

Have a great day!
Bill

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Joseph Shuman via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:20:18 PM
To: Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

I have been using a KX2 with the ATU a little over a year, my first and only radio.  I love it and have had great success in field throwing a 58? wire up a tree and a 13? counterpoise on the ground.  Been experimenting with different antenna at home, so far a folded dipole using about 128-130? of wire being the best performer on 80/40/20m.  I put together an external power supply using a security system sealed 12V battery in a small plastic ammo box, an auto lighter plug and a cheap voltmeter.  I have operated for over two hours at 10W using this battery rig and the whole station fits in a small $15.00 backpack.

You are not mistaken, however, posts regarding the KX2 are few and far between.  The radio is simply that good!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 22:05, Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Thu Jan 30 23:26:15 2020
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 20:26:15 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] SWR Calculation
In-Reply-To: <244551df-7159-6c9e-4b46-e27fd199ed72@blomand.net>
References: <E2B53E85-A24F-4925-B9A3-77A53CE2F9F2@comcast.net>
	<244551df-7159-6c9e-4b46-e27fd199ed72@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <b9b3b98d-1ebf-5390-d01a-c0d3a6796a43@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 1/30/2020 6:24 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> 55 watts = VSWR 2.0
> 
> If you have more than that, you need to do some antenna work.

VSWR is NOT an indicator of antenna performance, it's only an indicator 
of the match at the point where it's measured. Further, the excess 
feedline loss due to VSWR pretty small below about 3:1.

73, Jim K9YC

From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Jan 30 23:28:40 2020
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 04:28:40 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB687011F8065EC4BF4D8E55819C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <46E06DF0-2AED-4508-9B64-471B0E8E95B3@icloud.com>,
	<CH2PR02MB687011F8065EC4BF4D8E55819C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB687058EFD5A66E20621EAD839C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Spell check sucks, Shu.

Have a great day!
Bill

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:26:04 PM
To: Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com>; Joseph Shuman <oldmanshu at icloud.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

Shut, for a ham of over 60 years, your post inspires me to get more involved,  find new stuff to do.   I am getting into VHF-UHF again but will always be on the air looking for contacts.   Good luck with your pursuits!

Have a great day!
Bill

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Joseph Shuman via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:20:18 PM
To: Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

I have been using a KX2 with the ATU a little over a year, my first and only radio.  I love it and have had great success in field throwing a 58? wire up a tree and a 13? counterpoise on the ground.  Been experimenting with different antenna at home, so far a folded dipole using about 128-130? of wire being the best performer on 80/40/20m.  I put together an external power supply using a security system sealed 12V battery in a small plastic ammo box, an auto lighter plug and a cheap voltmeter.  I have operated for over two hours at 10W using this battery rig and the whole station fits in a small $15.00 backpack.

You are not mistaken, however, posts regarding the KX2 are few and far between.  The radio is simply that good!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 22:05, Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From w5sv.dave at gmail.com  Thu Jan 30 23:53:50 2020
From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 22:53:50 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3F 100 W
Message-ID: <7D101423-1E38-4819-B95B-9DBB41E9B315@gmail.com>

The rest of it has sold, thank you very much; I still have the K3 for sale, and had forgotten to list one of the features? New, it cost about twice my price so I think it represents excellent value. $3,000.00 

K3 F - 100 watt serial number 5354  (associated accessories below)
Gemproducts Side KX panels (OEM Panels included in case you don?t like them).
KIO3B upgrade
Synthesizer boards upgraded
General coverage option
Dual receiver
DVR
Internal autotuner
Internal 2m transporter
TCXO
Filters: (in both main and sub receivers)
13 Khz
6 Khz
2.7 Khz
2.1 Khx
0.25 Khz


73 de W5SV - David F. Reed


From k9ma at sdellington.us  Fri Jan 31 00:13:29 2020
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 23:13:29 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <46E06DF0-2AED-4508-9B64-471B0E8E95B3@icloud.com>
References: <46E06DF0-2AED-4508-9B64-471B0E8E95B3@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <3be8f7c5-509d-f5cf-b8f7-244e8246c541@sdellington.us>

I can confirm the good reports on the KX2. I've been using mine for a 
couple years for portable operations, without a hitch. The receiver 
sounds almost as good as my K3.

The battery is good for 5 or 6 hours of CW contest operation at 10 W. If 
you really want to keep the weight down, the KX2 battery can charge a 
phone.? A modified USB car charger plugs into the battery connector. 
That battery could charge a phone several times.

One very slight annoyance is that Elecraft never fixed the filter 
software: It only works at bandwidths of odd multiples of 50 Hz: 250, 
350, etc. I happen to like mine at 400.


73,
Scott K9MA




On 1/30/2020 22:20, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:
> I have been using a KX2 with the ATU a little over a year, my first and only radio.  I love it and have had great success in field throwing a 58? wire up a tree and a 13? counterpoise on the ground.  Been experimenting with different antenna at home, so far a folded dipole using about 128-130? of wire being the best performer on 80/40/20m.  I put together an external power supply using a security system sealed 12V battery in a small plastic ammo box, an auto lighter plug and a cheap voltmeter.  I have operated for over two hours at 10W using this battery rig and the whole station fits in a small $15.00 backpack.
>
> You are not mistaken, however, posts regarding the KX2 are few and far between.  The radio is simply that good!
>
> Keeping Watch-
> shu
>
> Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ
>
>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 22:05, Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
>> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
>> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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From tfricke at web.de  Fri Jan 31 01:51:23 2020
From: tfricke at web.de (Thorsten Fricke)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 07:51:23 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <9902296a-b7f5-f562-b9eb-a8eae5af0425@web.de>

Hello Gordon,

this is another KX2 user ;-)
I bought mine last year and did not really use it regularly so far, just
a bit listening on the bands, but that should change very soon.
Today a fellow OM (also owner of a KX2) helped me to configure WSJT-X
and I had my first FT8 QSO with my KX2. But my main use will be SSB...
until I manage to be good enough in CW to be on air.

73 DH4FT, Thorsten

Am 30.01.20 um 04:05 schrieb Charles G. Saunders:
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon

From tfricke at web.de  Fri Jan 31 02:24:15 2020
From: tfricke at web.de (Thorsten Fricke)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:24:15 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR02MB68709A54DFFACD6DFD5EAD5D9C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <luia7pcb80rcfbob6mlonwk5.1580353544248@email.android.com>
	<CH2PR02MB68709A54DFFACD6DFD5EAD5D9C070@CH2PR02MB6870.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <3e84a89d-7779-9d08-219e-43afa156ef2f@web.de>

Am 31.01.20 um 02:35 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> You won't hear much about a fantastic radio.  I have used lots of QRP radios and the KX2 beats the crap out of all, including the other Elecraft QRP radios for size and true portability.  It is my best ever go to portable. Now if Wayne could shrink it more?

Maybe NOT shrinking more, but.... adding 2m to it? IF at all something
is missing on the KX2, then I would think it is 2m. Nevertheless,
carrying my Anytone 878 with me in addition is not too much, even though
there is still no possibility to do 2m SSB or (if I ever make it) CW.

> Have a great day!
> Bill
>

73 de DH4FT, Thorsten

From kg7vq01 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 31 11:01:45 2020
From: kg7vq01 at gmail.com (kg7vq01)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 10:01:45 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT2 C58 & C59
Message-ID: <8iuqwx685wtjs8jiyjmvy8vl.1580486237976@email.android.com>

During the inventory of the kit, I found no 104 capacitors but found two small plastic cubes with lead and vary faint markinig i can't make out. Logic says that, as everyhing else is identified, these must be C58 & 59. However as logic is rarely relevent these days I thought I should ask. Oh, and they are blue.
Thanks for any helpRussKG7VQ


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

From gio.flynn at gmail.com  Fri Jan 31 11:12:29 2020
From: gio.flynn at gmail.com (John Flynn)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 11:12:29 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Any KX2 Users....
In-Reply-To: <k1m7di44r910mfokufc9gf4c.1580441876908@email.android.com>
References: <k1m7di44r910mfokufc9gf4c.1580441876908@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CALK2ZbwCr2DYJ0j2J7qZLmjOjszz5XkUUjOTBiToS+p=84ORHA@mail.gmail.com>

Where will you be and when? Don't forget to spot yourself. I'll be chasing.

GL es 72/44,

John K4ARQ

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 22:39 Charles G. Saunders <kw4cz49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I think my question has been answered and validated. By the Whiskers
> of Gabby Hayes... All  you old guys know who I am talking about...
> I feel like I'm in good company of KX2 fans. When I run up against a
> problem that needs the Logic of Spock .. I know where to ask.
> Many, many thanks to all that replied.
> Plans are to activate my first POTA in the very near future. Next week.
> Y'all listen out for the OM trying to get it altogether with a KX2.
> 73, KW4CZ. Gordon
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From dave at w8fgu.com  Fri Jan 31 11:24:40 2020
From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:24:40 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT2 C58 & C59
In-Reply-To: <8iuqwx685wtjs8jiyjmvy8vl.1580486237976@email.android.com>
References: <8iuqwx685wtjs8jiyjmvy8vl.1580486237976@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <emfbc015b3-589f-49de-91bd-4e55e12455f3@w8fgu-desktop>

Hi Russ,

Those light blue caps should be marked "u1J100" and if they are, those 
are 0.1uf (104) caps. They would be for C58 and C59. I use a lighted, 
magnifying lamp here. That is the only way I can read those things ;-)

73,
Dave, W8FGU


On 1/31/2020 11:01:45 AM, "kg7vq01" <kg7vq01 at gmail.com> wrote:

>During the inventory of the kit, I found no 104 capacitors but found two small plastic cubes with lead and vary faint markinig i can't make out. Logic says that, as everyhing else is identified, these must be C58 & 59. However as logic is rarely relevent these days I thought I should ask. Oh, and they are blue.
>Thanks for any helpRussKG7VQ
>
>
>Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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From hlstephenson at gmail.com  Fri Jan 31 16:21:36 2020
From: hlstephenson at gmail.com (Howard Stephenson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:21:36 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] FS K3
In-Reply-To: <CAA-f8tpAE5U=GH02C5FEeQC=kAAz7V_uU7e+ukeP4g_ft2bi+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA-f8tpAE5U=GH02C5FEeQC=kAAz7V_uU7e+ukeP4g_ft2bi+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA-f8tqA3rZjvjpxzGxRyaLoR3p7tPEdL+pHWPFKCiWG0vC14A@mail.gmail.com>

The K3 has been sold.

73,
Howard Stephenson K6IA


Selling my K3/100 SN 6010, comes with ATU, SUB, DVR, and a KBPF3 in main.
>
>
>
>

From k4to.dave at gmail.com  Fri Jan 31 19:28:34 2020
From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:28:34 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Power Cable Wire size
Message-ID: <CAKynJKmkLhe9=+1UbUTWXh33csJBVstrzxmQ6hOi7cFAssg96g@mail.gmail.com>

What size wire is used in the power cable supplied to the KX3? I see the
current rating numbers, but never the actual are size.

Dave, K4TO

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Jan 31 19:50:43 2020
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:50:43 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Power Cable Wire size
In-Reply-To: <CAKynJKmkLhe9=+1UbUTWXh33csJBVstrzxmQ6hOi7cFAssg96g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKynJKmkLhe9=+1UbUTWXh33csJBVstrzxmQ6hOi7cFAssg96g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <414a2544-63e7-f4ad-1612-6b2879d3c289@embarqmail.com>

Dave,

The wire is #18 AWG.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/31/2020 7:28 PM, Dave Sublette wrote:
> What size wire is used in the power cable supplied to the KX3? I see the
> current rating numbers, but never the actual are size.

From k4to.dave at gmail.com  Fri Jan 31 20:12:51 2020
From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:12:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Power cable wire --cancel
Message-ID: <CAKynJKnRj2NL2z6kor7y-9_Jwwyjm6MOVPVZFTXLM==MgHmF_g@mail.gmail.com>

Well shoot.  A little research (which I should have done before asking)
turns up the info.  It was supplied two years ago.  In response  to a
similar question that I submitted fitted.  Egg on face...etc....

73,

Dave, K4TO

oh yeah -- #18 wire

From wb4ooa at gmail.com  Fri Jan 31 20:19:40 2020
From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:19:40 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 tuner
Message-ID: <000401d5d89d$ad8c5d20$08a51760$@gmail.com>

If you are using the KAT3 tuner, then you are too close to the 8215khz IF
Trap mounted on the KAT3 tuner.  
Years ago the original traps were burning up and Elecraft replaced them with
a new trap that could be tuned.  
That did not completely solve the problem, so Elecraft suggested shorting
out the trap or removing it completely and jumper the board. 

Ron Durie
WB4OOA
Elecraft K-Line
704-843-3681
WB4OOA at gmail.com