From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Sat Aug 1 04:50:29 2020 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (CUTTER DAVID) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 09:50:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1363304497.773642.1596271829658@mail2.virginmedia.com> Dave and Jim Our friend made strong mention of SOTA and the KX series of portable rigs and those users often require a multi-band antenna for simplicity and to keep the weight down. Our friend's 40m vertical is also being used on 20m, so, it's reasonable to assume he desires multi-band performance, perhaps even more bands. In portable situations the feeder is often short and sometimes non-existent so there is little or no transformation. Elecraft promote their rigs to be used with non-resonant antennas: why strive for such a wide range matching unit if not? Eric has told us many times that he is happy with odd lengths of wire thrown up a tree and another piece thrown on the ground as a counterpoise, ie multi-band, non-resonant antenna. In these situations lobes and radiation angles are less important than just getting out. David G3UNA > On 31 July 2020 at 21:28 David Gilbert wrote: > > > > That's a lot of bad advice all rolled into one. > > 1.? Low voltage at the antenna does not mean low voltage at the shack > end of the feedline.? That's why it's called VSWR. > > 2.? Low voltage at the antenna does not mean low voltages internal to > the tuner, which can be quite high depending upon the degree of > non-resonance.? You aren't necessarily "making life easier for the > matching unit" at all. > > 3.? Multi-band antennas mean highly variable pattern from band to band.? > The same antenna might have a peak to the U.S. (from England) on one > band and a major notch on another band.? If you don't care about > pattern, dummy loads match pretty easy too. > > Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a > compromise.? I'd be interested in the reason why an antenna properly > designed for a particular band is a bad idea. > > Dave?? AB7E > > > > On 7/31/2020 2:04 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: > > With Elecraft matching units you don't need (and it can be undesirable to have) antennas made for a particular band. You make life easier for the matching unit by making your antenna non-resonant on bands you want to use. That way the unit does not have to cope with especially high voltages which are most likely to cause internal damage. Save your time, weight, money for other options. > > > > David G3UNA > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Sat Aug 1 06:58:36 2020 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:58:36 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KIOB3B for K3 In-Reply-To: <334851532.6932930.1596175206370@mail.yahoo.com> References: <334851532.6932930.1596175206370@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <603996E7-45C9-47B4-9B87-874E666EACB3@Alphadene.co.uk> Bill, I did the same but not fitted yet - would be interested to know your thoughts on fitting. i.e. did you do a F/W upgrade first etc (mines a bit old). 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) -- Always remember, half the people in the world are above average intelligence! > On 31 Jul 2020, at 07:00, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote: > > I just bought that KIO3B card a few weeks ago. Nice to just have the USB cable do the work of the serial connection and have the audioon its own codec. Still available from the factory as far as I know. > BillK3WJV > > On Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:18:47 AM EDT, Roger D Johnson wrote: > > Apparently this card is no longer available. Does anyone know what the > price was? > > 73, Roger > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k3wjv at yahoo.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk From gary at w2cs.org Sat Aug 1 07:37:33 2020 From: gary at w2cs.org (Gary J Ferdinand) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 07:37:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote Message-ID: <4B7D21C5-C2F4-43F0-AC85-B9EB0F9226DA@w2cs.org> The doc for the K4 talks about K4:K4 remote or from computers. Right now I and others are using RemoteRig boxes to have K3S:K3S. Is there a means to do a K4:K3(s) using RemoteRig? Or is a K4 required on both ends? Might you flesh out the K4 remote configuration capabilities a bit for us? Tnx. 73, Gary W2CS From w2up at comcast.net Sat Aug 1 08:34:55 2020 From: w2up at comcast.net (Barry) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 05:34:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] That's a whole lotta buttons and knobs! In-Reply-To: References: <57928097-bf60-fc84-c16e-5362fb524919@bell.net> Message-ID: <1596285295012-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Remember the early days of transistor radios and how they advertised the number of transistors on the case? The more the better! Turns out some of those with big numbers had transistors not connected to anything. Barry W2UP -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From m0lep at hewett.org Sat Aug 1 11:02:44 2020 From: m0lep at hewett.org (Rick M0LEP) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2020 15:02:44 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Groundplane antennas (was: Re: Elecraft CW Net Announcement) References: <6de.5f227a3e.d102e@hewett.org> Message-ID: <3932.5f258414.c2ebe@hewett.org> On Thu 30 Jul Bill Frantz wrote: > Steve Stearns, K6OIK has a article in the latest QST about the > effect of trees on 160M vertical antennas. It reads like it is > the first in a series about the effect of trees on antenna performance. > > It also mentions Jim, K9YC who has some direct experience, > living in a coast redwood forest. I tried operating on a summit covered by a timber plantation; lots of tall fairly straight trees fairly regularly spaced. A friend operating at the same time from a short distance away near the edge of the plantation, and using an 817 and a dipole, made rather more contacts than I did... -- 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) From k3wjv at yahoo.com Sat Aug 1 11:13:52 2020 From: k3wjv at yahoo.com (Bill Stravinsky) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KIOB3B for K3 In-Reply-To: <603996E7-45C9-47B4-9B87-874E666EACB3@Alphadene.co.uk> References: <334851532.6932930.1596175206370@mail.yahoo.com> <603996E7-45C9-47B4-9B87-874E666EACB3@Alphadene.co.uk> Message-ID: <48670770.7344184.1596294832370@mail.yahoo.com> David Wow, #174, it sure is on the old side, hi.? I have a fairly early one #2995 from 2009. I already had F/W 5.66 so no need to upgrade for me.? The instruction manual advises to upgrade the firmware before installation.The installation is really very easy although I have had mine apart several times for other upgrades over the years and am comfyinside the radio. I had already done the mod for the KXV3B so was familiar with that area of disassembly but I think this KIO3B install was even easier. Good luck with the install.? Should only take a couple hours if you've done the KXV3B and are familiar but if its your first adventurein modifying the K3 just take your time and don't force anything. BillK3WJV On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 6:58:41 AM EDT, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Bill, I did the same but not fitted yet - would be interested to know your thoughts on fitting. i.e. did you do a F/W upgrade first etc (mines a bit old). 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)--? Always remember, half the people in the world are above average intelligence! On 31 Jul 2020, at 07:00, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote: I just bought that KIO3B card a few weeks ago.? Nice to just have the USB cable do the work of the serial connection and have the audioon its own codec.? Still available from the factory as far as I know. BillK3WJV ???On Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:18:47 AM EDT, Roger D Johnson wrote: ? Apparently this card is no longer available. Does anyone know what the price was? 73, Roger ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3wjv at yahoo.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Sat Aug 1 11:35:30 2020 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 16:35:30 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KIOB3B for K3 In-Reply-To: <48670770.7344184.1596294832370@mail.yahoo.com> References: <334851532.6932930.1596175206370@mail.yahoo.com> <603996E7-45C9-47B4-9B87-874E666EACB3@Alphadene.co.uk> <48670770.7344184.1596294832370@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, yes, it?s one of the first 200 that people pre-ordered and waited nearly a year for, then built themselves (I liked Elecraft, but must say I thought the K2 a little long in the tooth, I was about to buy an FT-2000 - had the money and everything, then Elecraft announced the K3 - well I can tell you, it didn?t take more than 5 mins to get an order off). Never regretted it and love the Elecraft company and service AND the community. Have a P3 (again preorder) and lots of other products. I have no problem inside the rig etc (it?s quite packed in there now), just haven?t upgraded the firmware for a while. I think I?ll be fine - just waiting for the weather to change - it?s a ?wet day? type thing. Thanks for replying and the ?good luck?. 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) -- A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness. -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973) > On 1 Aug 2020, at 16:13, Bill Stravinsky wrote: > > David > > Wow, #174, it sure is on the old side, hi. I have a fairly early one #2995 from 2009. > > I already had F/W 5.66 so no need to upgrade for me. The instruction manual advises to upgrade the firmware before installation. > The installation is really very easy although I have had mine apart several times for other upgrades over the years and am comfy > inside the radio. > > I had already done the mod for the KXV3B so was familiar with that area of disassembly but I think this KIO3B install was even easier. > > Good luck with the install. Should only take a couple hours if you've done the KXV3B and are familiar but if its your first adventure > in modifying the K3 just take your time and don't force anything. > > Bill > K3WJV > > On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 6:58:41 AM EDT, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > > > Bill, I did the same but not fitted yet - would be interested to know your thoughts on fitting. i.e. did you do a F/W upgrade first etc (mines a bit old). > > 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) > -- > Always remember, half the people in the world are above average intelligence! > >> On 31 Jul 2020, at 07:00, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft > wrote: >> >> I just bought that KIO3B card a few weeks ago. Nice to just have the USB cable do the work of the serial connection and have the audioon its own codec. Still available from the factory as far as I know. >> BillK3WJV >> >> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:18:47 AM EDT, Roger D Johnson > wrote: >> >> Apparently this card is no longer available. Does anyone know what the >> price was? >> >> 73, Roger >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k3wjv at yahoo.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to >> m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk > From k3wjv at yahoo.com Sat Aug 1 11:58:52 2020 From: k3wjv at yahoo.com (Bill Stravinsky) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KIOB3B for K3 In-Reply-To: References: <334851532.6932930.1596175206370@mail.yahoo.com> <603996E7-45C9-47B4-9B87-874E666EACB3@Alphadene.co.uk> <48670770.7344184.1596294832370@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <115018485.7341671.1596297532694@mail.yahoo.com> If you've been inside the radio you will be fine.? I too like Elecraft very much.? K3-P3-KPA1500 73 BillK3WJV On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 11:35:36 AM EDT, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Hi Bill, yes, it?s one of the first 200 that people pre-ordered and waited nearly a year for, then built themselves (I liked Elecraft, but must say I thought the K2 a little long in the tooth, I was about to buy an FT-2000 - had the money and everything, then Elecraft announced the K3 - well I can tell you, it didn?t take more than 5 mins to get an order off). Never regretted it and love the Elecraft company and service AND the community. Have a P3 (again preorder) and lots of other products. I have no problem inside the rig etc (it?s quite packed in there now), just?haven?t upgraded the firmware for a while. I think I?ll be fine - just waiting for the weather to change - it?s a ?wet day? type thing. Thanks for replying and the ?good luck?. 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)--? A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness. -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973) On 1 Aug 2020, at 16:13, Bill Stravinsky wrote: David Wow, #174, it sure is on the old side, hi.? I have a fairly early one #2995 from 2009. I already had F/W 5.66 so no need to upgrade for me.? The instruction manual advises to upgrade the firmware before installation.The installation is really very easy although I have had mine apart several times for other upgrades over the years and am comfyinside the radio. I had already done the mod for the KXV3B so was familiar with that area of disassembly but I think this KIO3B install was even easier. Good luck with the install.? Should only take a couple hours if you've done the KXV3B and are familiar but if its your first adventurein modifying the K3 just take your time and don't force anything. BillK3WJV On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 6:58:41 AM EDT, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Bill, I did the same but not fitted yet - would be interested to know your thoughts on fitting. i.e. did you do a F/W upgrade first etc (mines a bit old). 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)--? Always remember, half the people in the world are above average intelligence! On 31 Jul 2020, at 07:00, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote: I just bought that KIO3B card a few weeks ago.? Nice to just have the USB cable do the work of the serial connection and have the audioon its own codec.? Still available from the factory as far as I know. BillK3WJV ???On Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:18:47 AM EDT, Roger D Johnson wrote: ? Apparently this card is no longer available. Does anyone know what the price was? 73, Roger ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3wjv at yahoo.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk From brian at kf6c.com Sat Aug 1 13:49:22 2020 From: brian at kf6c.com (Brian Comer) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:49:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Max power thru KPA 500 when off. Message-ID: <000001d6682c$1779db40$466d91c0$@kf6c.com> I have reason to connect two KPA 500s in series. What is the max power that can be input to a KPA 500 when it is turned off? Brian KF6C. From dave at nk7z.net Sat Aug 1 14:00:58 2020 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:00:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Max power thru KPA 500 when off. In-Reply-To: <000001d6682c$1779db40$466d91c0$@kf6c.com> References: <000001d6682c$1779db40$466d91c0$@kf6c.com> Message-ID: <7ab3e4a7-7fce-3d9f-d92a-1560ae6501e4@nk7z.net> I have to know why? 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 8/1/20 10:49 AM, Brian Comer wrote: > I have reason to connect two KPA 500s in series. What is the max power that > can be input to a KPA 500 when it is turned off? > > > > Brian KF6C. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net > From wa2lbi at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 14:04:00 2020 From: wa2lbi at gmail.com (Ken Winterling) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:04:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Max power thru KPA 500 when off. In-Reply-To: <000001d6682c$1779db40$466d91c0$@kf6c.com> References: <000001d6682c$1779db40$466d91c0$@kf6c.com> Message-ID: Brian, According to the Elecraft KPA500 manual: 1. *Never exceed 40 watts of drive to the KPA500 in OPER mode.* 2. *You may run up to 200 watts through the KPA500 in STBY.* I Ken WA2LBI On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM Brian Comer wrote: > I have reason to connect two KPA 500s in series. What is the max power that > can be input to a KPA 500 when it is turned off? > > Brian KF6C. > > From kwroberson at yahoo.com Sat Aug 1 14:19:31 2020 From: kwroberson at yahoo.com (Ken Roberson) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 18:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3-KXV3B References: <14288454.194417.1596305971704.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14288454.194417.1596305971704@mail.yahoo.com> Hello all K3 with KXV3B installed ? When in the tx mode is thetransverter input (rx) grounded ? 73 - Thanks agn Ken K5DNL ? From alorona at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 1 14:21:56 2020 From: alorona at sbcglobal.net (Al Lorona) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 18:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that is. I think we do a disservice to the hundreds of hams reading this by discouraging them from multiband operation just because we deem it too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" or whatever. If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her actions, chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no particular length, ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the shack, and a low-loss homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to operate on all bands, then who are we to tell him or her that they shouldn't? To do so has always struck me as presumptuous. Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross assumption that we continue to make, that when someone mentions feeding an antenna with "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? There are better alternatives. If our beef is with Wireman #553, then let's be on with it without condemning *all* forms of balanced line. Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the aggregate of cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, elbows, lightning arrestors, baluns, autotuners, &c., &c., that many folks use. Everything has loss, but in effect we trade that loss for some other valuable function... like being able to QSY anwhere, easily. To give you a data point, on 12 meters my station has a max loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) of 1.6 dB. I'll put that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of coax through all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna. Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on many bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that the *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band operation for some other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that compromise is made just so they can say that they're not using a tuner! Al? W6LX >>>Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a >>>compromise. >>>Dave?? AB7E From k6dgw at foothill.net Sat Aug 1 14:25:53 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:25:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] what tripod to use? In-Reply-To: <0670a4a8-0960-7b82-298b-29452c5c94f8@kanafi.org> References: <95tt1an68ki912as520hjscs.1596161734990.ref@rogers.com> <95tt1an68ki912as520hjscs.1596161734990@rogers.com> <425A50D2-7102-4661-A671-DA611F516C2B@wunderwood.org> <7E58669131914844AB7B375E4B74B40E@tfoxserver3> <1408203167.752849.1596187575250@mail2.virginmedia.com> <0670a4a8-0960-7b82-298b-29452c5c94f8@kanafi.org> Message-ID: <4fb42c4f-3f64-c573-44f9-8cf03f8b0f3b@foothill.net> I think he's talking about the inverted umbrella-like thingys popular in the 40's and 50's that resemble a Hexbeam or HF Moxon of today.? Been a long time since I've seen one 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > On 7/31/2020 2:26 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: > >> A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary washing line. > With all due respect, I had to re-read that several times to picture > that device. Are you referring to the inverted pyramid upon which one > hangs washing out to dry? As a suburban dweller who has used an > electric clothes dryer all of my adult life I haven't seen one of them > for many decades. :) > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Aug 1 14:33:01 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:33:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 crystal filter upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0cd9ddc2-fafc-e815-4720-14929fd9c001@embarqmail.com> Mike, Yes, the new crystals will improve the filtering in the K2 - there may be a few exceptions, but that is not the rule. The filter response will be smoother. Your K2 RF Board also likely has the older crystals, so change them as well. Get the matched set of 14 crystals. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/29/2020 9:26 PM, Mike Maiorana wrote: > I have an early K2 that has the original type crystals in both the CW and > SSB IF filters (marked with ECS 4.91-20). If I am not going to increase the > bandwidth of the SSB filter, is there any reason to replace the old > crystals with the new units from Elecraft? Will the new crystals improve > performance? > > Thanks for any feedback. > Mike M. > KU4QO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat Aug 1 14:39:14 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:39:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Max power thru KPA 500 when off. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why in ?series?? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Ken Winterling wrote: > > ?Brian, > > According to the Elecraft KPA500 manual: > > 1. *Never exceed 40 watts of drive to the KPA500 in OPER mode.* > 2. *You may run up to 200 watts through the KPA500 in STBY.* > > I > Ken > WA2LBI > > > > > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM Brian Comer wrote: >> >> I have reason to connect two KPA 500s in series. What is the max power that >> can be input to a KPA 500 when it is turned off? >> >> Brian KF6C. >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ab7echo at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 15:12:23 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 12:12:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of antenna tuners myself.? I previously used one for many years to get 5 band operation out of two vertical pieces of tubing on my roof back when I lived in Scottsdale, and I just built a high power monster to get full coverage of the low bands with my current antennas here in the boonies.? I'm definitely not one of those who think that antennas need to be resonant to be any good. Antenna tuners can indeed be lossy, but with the right components they don't have to be, and if they are lossy enough to significantly affect your signal most of them will burn up first.? TLW, the free app that comes with the ARRL Antenna Book, is quite informative on that score. My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/1/2020 11:21 AM, Al Lorona wrote: > I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that is. I think we do a disservice to the hundreds of hams reading this by discouraging them from multiband operation just because we deem it too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" or whatever. > > If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her actions, chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no particular length, ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the shack, and a low-loss homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to operate on all bands, then who are we to tell him or her that they shouldn't? To do so has always struck me as presumptuous. > > Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross assumption that we continue to make, that when someone mentions feeding an antenna with "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? There are better alternatives. If our beef is with Wireman #553, then let's be on with it without condemning *all* forms of balanced line. > > Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the aggregate of cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, elbows, lightning arrestors, baluns, autotuners, &c., &c., that many folks use. Everything has loss, but in effect we trade that loss for some other valuable function... like being able to QSY anwhere, easily. To give you a data point, on 12 meters my station has a max loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) of 1.6 dB. I'll put that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of coax through all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna. > > Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on many bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that the *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band operation for some other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that compromise is made just so they can say that they're not using a tuner! > > Al? W6LX > > >>>> Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a >>>> compromise. >>>> Dave?? AB7E > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Sat Aug 1 15:24:30 2020 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (CUTTER DAVID) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 20:24:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Elecraft] what tripod to use? In-Reply-To: <4fb42c4f-3f64-c573-44f9-8cf03f8b0f3b@foothill.net> References: <95tt1an68ki912as520hjscs.1596161734990.ref@rogers.com> <95tt1an68ki912as520hjscs.1596161734990@rogers.com> <425A50D2-7102-4661-A671-DA611F516C2B@wunderwood.org> <7E58669131914844AB7B375E4B74B40E@tfoxserver3> <1408203167.752849.1596187575250@mail2.virginmedia.com> <0670a4a8-0960-7b82-298b-29452c5c94f8@kanafi.org> <4fb42c4f-3f64-c573-44f9-8cf03f8b0f3b@foothill.net> Message-ID: <897079400.784669.1596309870183@mail2.virginmedia.com> Here's your equivalent at Home Depot: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Honey-Can-Do-Inground-Umbrella-Shaped-Dryer-DRY-05262/300532316 Still quite popular over here, though not as expensive: https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-rotary-airer-40m/p/0432698 David G3UNA > On 01 August 2020 at 19:25 Fred Jensen wrote: > > > I think he's talking about the inverted umbrella-like thingys popular in > the 40's and 50's that resemble a Hexbeam or HF Moxon of today.? Been a > long time since I've seen one > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > > On 7/31/2020 2:26 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: > > > >> A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary washing line. > > With all due respect, I had to re-read that several times to picture > > that device. Are you referring to the inverted pyramid upon which one > > hangs washing out to dry? As a suburban dweller who has used an > > electric clothes dryer all of my adult life I haven't seen one of them > > for many decades. :) > > > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Sat Aug 1 15:39:10 2020 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (CUTTER DAVID) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 20:39:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494421330.784882.1596310750377@mail2.virginmedia.com> Dave You read something into my post that was neither there nor intended. This highlights one of the oddities of emails: you can't write them to fit all audiences. David G3UNA > On 01 August 2020 at 20:12 David Gilbert wrote: > > > > For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of antenna tuners > myself.? I previously used one for many years to get 5 band operation > out of two vertical pieces of tubing on my roof back when I lived in > Scottsdale, and I just built a high power monster to get full coverage > of the low bands with my current antennas here in the boonies.? I'm > definitely not one of those who think that antennas need to be resonant > to be any good. > > Antenna tuners can indeed be lossy, but with the right components they > don't have to be, and if they are lossy enough to significantly affect > your signal most of them will burn up first.? TLW, the free app that > comes with the ARRL Antenna Book, is quite informative on that score. > > My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization > that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. > > 73, > Dave?? AB7E > > > > On 8/1/2020 11:21 AM, Al Lorona wrote: > > I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that is. I think we do a disservice to the hundreds of hams reading this by discouraging them from multiband operation just because we deem it too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" or whatever. > > > > If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her actions, chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no particular length, ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the shack, and a low-loss homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to operate on all bands, then who are we to tell him or her that they shouldn't? To do so has always struck me as presumptuous. > > > > Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross assumption that we continue to make, that when someone mentions feeding an antenna with "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? There are better alternatives. If our beef is with Wireman #553, then let's be on with it without condemning *all* forms of balanced line. > > > > Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the aggregate of cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, elbows, lightning arrestors, baluns, autotuners, &c., &c., that many folks use. Everything has loss, but in effect we trade that loss for some other valuable function... like being able to QSY anwhere, easily. To give you a data point, on 12 meters my station has a max loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) of 1.6 dB. I'll put that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of coax through all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna. > > > > Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on many bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that the *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band operation for some other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that compromise is made just so they can say that they're not using a tuner! > > > > Al? W6LX > > > > > >>>> Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a > >>>> compromise. > >>>> Dave?? AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com From jboehner01 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 1 15:51:24 2020 From: jboehner01 at yahoo.com (James F. Boehner MD) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:51:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019001d6683d$23a332c0$6ae99840$@yahoo.com> Al, A very refreshing perspective. Thank you! '73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Lorona Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 2:22 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works! I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that is. I think we do a disservice to the hundreds of hams reading this by discouraging them from multiband operation just because we deem it too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" or whatever. If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her actions, chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no particular length, ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the shack, and a low-loss homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to operate on all bands, then who are we to tell him or her that they shouldn't? To do so has always struck me as presumptuous. Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross assumption that we continue to make, that when someone mentions feeding an antenna with "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? There are better alternatives. If our beef is with Wireman #553, then let's be on with it without condemning *all* forms of balanced line. Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the aggregate of cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, elbows, lightning arrestors, baluns, autotuners, &c., &c., that many folks use. Everything has loss, but in effect we trade that loss for some other valuable function... like being able to QSY anwhere, easily. To give you a data point, on 12 meters my station has a max loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) of 1.6 dB. I'll put that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of coax through all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna. Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on many bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that the *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band operation for some other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that compromise is made just so they can say that they're not using a tuner! Al W6LX >>>Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a >>>compromise. >>>Dave AB7E ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jboehner01 at yahoo.com From k2asp at kanafi.org Sat Aug 1 16:05:50 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:05:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] what tripod to use? In-Reply-To: <897079400.784669.1596309870183@mail2.virginmedia.com> References: <95tt1an68ki912as520hjscs.1596161734990.ref@rogers.com> <95tt1an68ki912as520hjscs.1596161734990@rogers.com> <425A50D2-7102-4661-A671-DA611F516C2B@wunderwood.org> <7E58669131914844AB7B375E4B74B40E@tfoxserver3> <1408203167.752849.1596187575250@mail2.virginmedia.com> <0670a4a8-0960-7b82-298b-29452c5c94f8@kanafi.org> <4fb42c4f-3f64-c573-44f9-8cf03f8b0f3b@foothill.net> <897079400.784669.1596309870183@mail2.virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <1fc76452-fad3-01de-d317-78ed49e4a894@kanafi.org> On 8/1/2020 12:24 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: > Still quite popular over here, though not as expensive: > https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-rotary-airer-40m/p/0432698 Will it work for bands other than 40m :) 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From kevinr at coho.net Sat Aug 1 16:22:16 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1ce6da16-f5f9-5c79-a7b4-d2854271e3c7@coho.net> My new antenna works well on 80, 40, 30, and 20 meters.? I have not tried the other bands.? While it was cut for 7100 kHz the design is good for other bands too, using the Elecraft tuner.? I am thankful my design does exactly what I wanted it to do within my design criteria.? It is quieter than my doublet and reaches parts of the US which the doublet does not. Is there an ultimate antenna?? NO.? I never intended it to be used as a personal mobile antenna, nor as an antenna which works DC to daylight.? I wanted an antenna with different propagation characteristics than my doublet for only 20 and 40 meters. I live on a ridge exposed to high winds which occur regularly each winter.? I lose antennas almost every year.? Designing them with 14 ga. THHN wire helped a great deal.? Cheap.? Easy to find in most hardware stores.? Durable.? And easily repaired when the flying limbs break them.? I can't imagine the replacement costs for a Yagi-Uda antenna.? I doubt they would last two years with the flying branches I experience. Antenna design is part of the fun of amateur radio.? The other part is enjoying what you can afford, mount, and use.? Your design criteria will not be the same as mine.? Thus your solution will be different. ?? 73 and GL, ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS - On 8/1/20 12:12 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of antenna tuners > myself.? I previously used one for many years to get 5 band operation > out of two vertical pieces of tubing on my roof back when I lived in > Scottsdale, and I just built a high power monster to get full coverage > of the low bands with my current antennas here in the boonies.? I'm > definitely not one of those who think that antennas need to be > resonant to be any good. > > Antenna tuners can indeed be lossy, but with the right components they > don't have to be, and if they are lossy enough to significantly affect > your signal most of them will burn up first. TLW, the free app that > comes with the ARRL Antenna Book, is quite informative on that score. > > My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his > generalization that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant > antennas are good. > > 73, > Dave?? AB7E > > > > On 8/1/2020 11:21 AM, Al Lorona wrote: >> I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time >> the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too >> lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all >> your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating >> on all bands without having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that >> is. I think we do a disservice to the hundreds of hams reading this >> by discouraging them from multiband operation just because we deem it >> too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" or whatever. >> >> If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her >> actions, chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no >> particular length, ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the >> shack, and a low-loss homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to >> operate on all bands, then who are we to tell him or her that they >> shouldn't? To do so has always struck me as presumptuous. >> >> Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross >> assumption that we continue to make, that when someone mentions >> feeding an antenna with "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? >> There are better alternatives. If our beef is with Wireman #553, then >> let's be on with it without condemning *all* forms of balanced line. >> >> Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the >> aggregate of cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, >> elbows, lightning arrestors, baluns, autotuners, &c., &c., that many >> folks use. Everything has loss, but in effect we trade that loss for >> some other valuable function... like being able to QSY anwhere, >> easily. To give you a data point, on 12 meters my station has a max >> loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) of 1.6 dB. I'll put >> that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of coax through >> all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna. >> >> Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on >> many bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that >> the *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band >> operation for some other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that >> compromise is made just so they can say that they're not using a tuner! >> >> Al? W6LX >> >> >>>>> Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a >>>>> compromise. >>>>> Dave?? AB7E >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 1 18:09:52 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 15:09:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> Message-ID: <36f12270-f906-9c8b-c4d1-932279ba586d@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/1/2020 12:12 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization > that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. Same here. Most antennas that we can install are some form of compromise. Higher is better. One size fits all solutions generally don't perform as well as antennas optimized for a band or given application. Antenna tuners do NOT make an antenna work better, they simply allow the transmitter to put power into the feedline, and by optimizing the load that the transmitter sees, they reduce the distortion that the amplifier produces. Remember -- SWR is NOT a measure of antenna performance. Louder at the other guy's radio IS. Less RX noise IS. What we all would do if we could is often very different from what we CAN do. What we would rig to operate from a park bench or on a mountaintop is usually very different from what we would do at home. 73, Jim K9YC From kevinr at coho.net Sat Aug 1 22:39:16 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 19:39:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <2440ae79-52cc-0657-95a0-05e5d4024c51@coho.net> Good Evening, ??? I spent the last few days listening on twenty and forty meters.? The North American QSO Party is a good way to test my new antenna.? I have found the forty meter band picks up around 0030z.? The QSB flattens and the signals are easier to dig out. There is a noticeable difference in noise level between the inverted-V and the vertical.? After 0000z I was able to copy MT, IL, MN, ID, KY, NY, NJ, NM, CT, SD, CO, FL, OR, AZ, OK, TX, KS, LA, NV, UT, CA, and wherever VK5MAV is located this week. Hopefully I can do as well tomorrow :) ? I will start the second net at 0030z since there was such a noticeable difference in propagation after 0015.? I will switch between the inverted-V and the vertical often.? As the days shorten I'll move the forty meter net back to 0000z.? Until then I will see how we do at 0030z instead. ?? More berries are getting ripe.? I'm looking for a good spot for blackberries.? Maybe in the clear cut to the north.? Salmon berries were not too good this year.? Neither were the thimbleberries.? The wild straw berries were good though.? The fire danger is high right now because we have not had rain in over a week.? Looks like we may get some fog tomorrow night.? That will help the blackberries. ?? There are two sunspots and the SFU is up to 72.? But the auroral oval is rather weak.? There was little QSB on anyone I heard on 20 or 40 meters over the last few days.? Some was present as 40 woke up but then it disappeared.? Not much band noise either.? It did not sound like there were any thunderstorms. Please join us on (or near): 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) ? 7047 kHz at 0030z Monday (5:30 PM PDT Sunday) ?? 73, ????? Kevin. KD5ONS _ *FORD:* Trillian, are you seriously telling us you?ve been talking to a box of shoes? *TRILLIAN:* Yes. *FORD:* And he - *ZAPHOD:* She. *ARTHUR:* It. *TRILLIAN:* They. *FORD:* ?thought that you also were the admiral? *TRILLIAN:* Well you heard it. *ZAPHOD:* What are they? Clinically thick? *FORD:* I think they?re very clever, they?re trying to confuse us to death. *MARVIN:* I don?t think they?re very clever. There?s only one person as intelligent as me within thirteen parsecs of here and that?s me. /[The Book activates]/ *THE BOOK:* The Haggunennons of Vicissitus Three have the most impatient chromosomes of any life-forms in the galaxy. Where as most races are content to evolve slowly and carefully over thousands of generations - discarding a prehensile toe here, nervously hazarding another nostril there, the Haggunennons would do for Charles Darwin what a squadron of Arcturan Stunt-Apples would have done for Sir Isaac Newton. Their genetic structure, based on the quadruple-stellated octo-helix, is so chronically unstable, that far from passing their basic shape onto their children, they will quite frequently evolve several times over lunch. But they do this with such reckless abandon that if, sitting at table, they are unable to reach a coffee spoon, they are liable without a moments consideration to mutate into something with far longer arms - but which is probably quite incapable of drinking the coffee. This, not unnaturally, produces a terrible sense of personal insecurity and a jealous resentment of all stable life-forms, or ?filthy rotten stinking samelings? as they call them. They justify this by claiming that as they have personally experienced what it is like to be virtually everybody else they can think of, they are in a very good position to appreciate all their worst points. This appreciation is usually military in nature and is carried out with unmitigated savagery from the gunrooms of their horribly beweaponed, chameleoid death flotilla. Experience has shown that the most effective way of dealing with any Haggunennon you may meet is to run away? terribly fast. Antelope Freeway 1/512 mile From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 22:52:09 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 22:52:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The Elecraft Nets & More Message-ID: Sunday Sunday Sunday Not a race track ... get to know others that have Elecraft radios Zoom Zoom .. There is now an Elecraft Zoom "gathering" Join the Elecraft lovers for a Zoom QSO. No QRM, QRN, everyone 40 over 9. This Sunday at 2000z. Potential topics: how you got into Ham Radio, what kind of work do you do (or did . . . ). Please put your call letters and name in the zoom window. The link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83067882424?pwd=RVdteld5bW53eWdxZ0FKQysvcWV6dz09 73, Carl, K8NU The Elecraft Nets ---------------------------------- 20 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday 14.3035 +/- kHz at 1800Z 40 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday 7.280 kHz at 18:45z 20 Meter CW Elecraft Net Sunday 14.050.5 kHz at 2200z: 40 Meter CW Elecraft Net Sunday 7.047.5 kHz at 0000z: 80 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday Night 3.940+/- at 01:00z Hope to "hear" you Put a copy up in your shack Paul KB9AVO From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 2 01:14:38 2020 From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 05:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3s Modules and Parts after COVID? References: <1694263655.10702107.1596345278104.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1694263655.10702107.1596345278104@mail.yahoo.com> i got quite a scare tonight when I thought a W7 laptop's USB port gone rogue had taken out two KIO3Bs.? Does Elecraft plan on keeping enough modules and parts in stock after things return to "normal" to keep our K3s going for some reasonable period of time?? I'm experiencing a vague sense of dread.?? 73, Eric WD6DBM From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 04:22:15 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 11:22:15 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <2440ae79-52cc-0657-95a0-05e5d4024c51@coho.net> References: <2440ae79-52cc-0657-95a0-05e5d4024c51@coho.net> Message-ID: <1ac68200-3e25-8cba-9af6-e9985575f88d@gmail.com> Maybe I'll invest 15 minutes of sleep time at 0030z tomorrow morning (0330 local). Who knows? I've never been able to hear the net, but maybe this time... 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 02/08/2020 5:39, kevinr wrote: > Good Evening, > > ??? I spent the last few days listening on twenty and forty meters. The > North American QSO Party is a good way to test my new antenna.? I have > found the forty meter band picks up around 0030z.? The QSB flattens and > the signals are easier to dig out. There is a noticeable difference in > noise level between the inverted-V and the vertical.? After 0000z I was > able to copy MT, IL, MN, ID, KY, NY, NJ, NM, CT, SD, CO, FL, OR, AZ, OK, > TX, KS, LA, NV, UT, CA, and wherever VK5MAV is located this week. > Hopefully I can do as well tomorrow :) > > ? I will start the second net at 0030z since there was such a > noticeable difference in propagation after 0015.? I will switch between > the inverted-V and the vertical often.? As the days shorten I'll move > the forty meter net back to 0000z.? Until then I will see how we do at > 0030z instead. > > ?? More berries are getting ripe.? I'm looking for a good spot for > blackberries.? Maybe in the clear cut to the north.? Salmon berries were > not too good this year.? Neither were the thimbleberries.? The wild > straw berries were good though.? The fire danger is high right now > because we have not had rain in over a week.? Looks like we may get some > fog tomorrow night.? That will help the blackberries. > > ?? There are two sunspots and the SFU is up to 72.? But the auroral > oval is rather weak.? There was little QSB on anyone I heard on 20 or 40 > meters over the last few days.? Some was present as 40 woke up but then > it disappeared.? Not much band noise either.? It did not sound like > there were any thunderstorms. > > Please join us on (or near): > > 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) > ? 7047 kHz at 0030z Monday (5:30 PM PDT Sunday) > > ?? 73, > ????? Kevin. KD5ONS > From dxer67 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 2 06:18:41 2020 From: dxer67 at yahoo.com (Hubert ROTH) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] looking for a 1.04c MCU for K2 References: <1071856544.10726072.1596363521139.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1071856544.10726072.1596363521139@mail.yahoo.com> Dear allMine in my K2 is faulty, If somebody has an 1.04c MCU (after upgrade) for sale would be fine, would avoid having to make upgrade. 73,s Hubert F6DUK From kb1tcd at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 06:43:10 2020 From: kb1tcd at gmail.com (JP Douglas) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 06:43:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> Message-ID: I prefer to use resonant antennas, either single or multi band and not use a tuner, however, I have encountered that even resonant antennas are not always so due to ground conditions, Case in point, two weeks ago we hiked to the summit of Sentinel Mountain in Baxter State Park. I carried my KX3, foldable 42 watt solar panel, 6amp/hr lithium battery, coax and a 40 meter resonant slinky antenna which I had previously tested at my QTH in Mid Coast, ME. Antenna would not resonate due to the granite terrain. Luckily I brought with me a mAT-10 qrp tuner I had just purchased and was able to get on the air just fine. Tried to post pix earlier but file was too big for the reflector. I?ll gladly send it to antone that wants to see it. Stay Free everyone! 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Sent from my iPad > On Aug 1, 2020, at 3:12 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > > For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of antenna tuners myself. I previously used one for many years to get 5 band operation out of two vertical pieces of tubing on my roof back when I lived in Scottsdale, and I just built a high power monster to get full coverage of the low bands with my current antennas here in the boonies. I'm definitely not one of those who think that antennas need to be resonant to be any good. > > Antenna tuners can indeed be lossy, but with the right components they don't have to be, and if they are lossy enough to significantly affect your signal most of them will burn up first. TLW, the free app that comes with the ARRL Antenna Book, is quite informative on that score. > > My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > > >> On 8/1/2020 11:21 AM, Al Lorona wrote: >> I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that is. I think we do a disservice to the hundreds of hams reading this by discouraging them from multiband operation just because we deem it too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" or whatever. >> >> If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her actions, chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no particular length, ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the shack, and a low-loss homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to operate on all bands, then who are we to tell him or her that they shouldn't? To do so has always struck me as presumptuous. >> >> Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross assumption that we continue to make, that when someone mentions feeding an antenna with "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? There are better alternatives. If our beef is with Wireman #553, then let's be on with it without condemning *all* forms of balanced line. >> >> Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the aggregate of cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, elbows, lightning arrestors, baluns, autotuners, &c., &c., that many folks use. Everything has loss, but in effect we trade that loss for some other valuable function... like being able to QSY anwhere, easily. To give you a data point, on 12 meters my station has a max loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) of 1.6 dB. I'll put that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of coax through all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna. >> >> Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on many bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that the *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band operation for some other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that compromise is made just so they can say that they're not using a tuner! >> >> Al W6LX >> >> >>>>> Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a >>>>> compromise. >>>>> Dave AB7E >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb1tcd at gmail.com From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 07:57:02 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 07:57:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <2440ae79-52cc-0657-95a0-05e5d4024c51@coho.net> References: <2440ae79-52cc-0657-95a0-05e5d4024c51@coho.net> Message-ID: <5f26ab9d.1c69fb81.78434.b238@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-01 19:39:-0700, kevinr wrote: >*MARVIN:* >I don?t think they?re very clever. There?s only one person as intelligent as me within thirteen parsecs of here and that?s me. "I don?t think they?re very clever. There?s only one person as intelligent as I within thirteen parsecs of here, and that?s I." Of course, I don't know what planet and country from which he hails, so perhaps it was correct, after all. I thoroughly enjoyed all Adams' books...at least the ones I recall ;-) (bands and times noted) From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Sun Aug 2 09:24:11 2020 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (CUTTER DAVID) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:24:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <36f12270-f906-9c8b-c4d1-932279ba586d@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> <36f12270-f906-9c8b-c4d1-932279ba586d@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <1522443136.793415.1596374651177@mail2.virginmedia.com> Jim and Dave Let's start with Kevin KD5ONS and his 40m vertical. A great monobander and I'm sure it performs very well on that band. He tells us it works great on most other HF bands as well, using the wonderful Elecraft matching ability. Had he stayed with that one antenna on that one band there would be nothing more to say, but he desires a multi-band antenna and he now thinks he's got one, thanks to Elecraft. However, as Jim points out, the matching unit doesn't make his antenna work any better, it hides the losses to make us feel better. Kevin is no doubt blissfully unaware of the loss in the feeder and in the matching unit because it just works for him and he's a happy customer. He is also unaware of the high voltages appearing in the matching unit. I'm not sure how much power he's running but those conditions could lead to failure and I want to advise him of the risk. This is where the phrase "it can be undesirable to have" comes in and the follow-on advice to make it non-resonant on any band to avoid potentially damaging conditions. I'm not saying anything new, I'm sure I read about this when solid state RF amplifiers first came on the scene. I don't want to make assumptions about Kevin, but I guess he might not yet be aware and ready to evaluate the vswr on his feeder for the other bands and work out the transformation of voltages back at the rig. Perhaps we should take the time and ask him: Kevin, what length and type of coax are you using to feed your 40m vertical? What power are you running? If he answers, I'm sure you will be able to help him do math. The great thing about this net is there are so many good folks willing to help and I'm glad of the chance to raise this old subject. I suspect for most of us, we don't have the space for mono-banders and multi-band antennas are the only practical solution and I'm very grateful for the matching ability of my Elecraft rig, but I'm cautious, I wouldn't run a mono-band antenna on another band without checking with my antenna analyser first, but that's another amazing story. David G3UNA > On 01 August 2020 at 23:09 Jim Brown wrote: > > > On 8/1/2020 12:12 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization > > that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. > > Same here. Most antennas that we can install are some form of > compromise. Higher is better. One size fits all solutions generally > don't perform as well as antennas optimized for a band or given > application. Antenna tuners do NOT make an antenna work better, they > simply allow the transmitter to put power into the feedline, and by > optimizing the load that the transmitter sees, they reduce the > distortion that the amplifier produces. Remember -- SWR is NOT a measure > of antenna performance. Louder at the other guy's radio IS. Less RX > noise IS. > > What we all would do if we could is often very different from what we > CAN do. What we would rig to operate from a park bench or on a > mountaintop is usually very different from what we would do at home. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com From n4zr at comcast.net Sun Aug 2 09:37:50 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 09:37:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Antenna Tuner "Hunting" Message-ID: Last night in NAQP I noticed that on 80 meters my tuner would hunt endlessly, calling for tune power, then finishing, then asking again with the ATU IN LED blinking.? I retrained the memory on each relevant band segment, and that stopped the hunting, but I noticed that instead of QSYing smoothly from one segment to another when I would pounce on a CQer, it would go through a tune cycle before settling down in normal operation.? I don't think this is normal, but don't know what to do.? Should I erase my 80M segment memories and reload them? Oh BTW, I was not running the amp last night - just using the tuner.? I'm a good boy. -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. From cbjesseeNH at comcast.net Sun Aug 2 09:59:05 2020 From: cbjesseeNH at comcast.net (MaverickNH) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 06:59:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express In-Reply-To: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> References: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Any luck with that Bob? I've been using Winlink on Packet VHF from a Kenwood TM-D710G but wanted to try 80m with my K3S. I'm to the point where Ardop is trying to connect to a local gateway about 5mi away from a 43ft vertical with remote ATU at base at 50W. No connection yet... I'm able to RX/TX on WSJT-X so figure my configuration should work, but perhaps I need to tweak it for Ardop? BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From dpbunte at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 10:02:27 2020 From: dpbunte at gmail.com (David Bunte) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:02:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Antenna Tuner "Hunting" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete - I don't have a KPA1500, but do have a KPA500 with a KAT500... and the first thing that comes to mind is manual vs auto on the tuner... IF they can be selected on the '1500. With the KAT500 after the tuner has found a matching solution for each band segment, I then put the tuner in manual, and when I change bands the tuner selects the correct tuning solution and it does not seek a new one while I am transmitting. I know that was the advice for the KAT500 from the time I first got mine years ago. I assume that is valid advice for the tuner in the KPA1500, assuming that is an option. Very 73 de Dave - K9FN On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 9:39 AM N4ZR wrote: > Last night in NAQP I noticed that on 80 meters my tuner would hunt > endlessly, calling for tune power, then finishing, then asking again > with the ATU IN LED blinking. I retrained the memory on each relevant > band segment, and that stopped the hunting, but I noticed that instead > of QSYing smoothly from one segment to another when I would pounce on a > CQer, it would go through a tune cycle before settling down in normal > operation. I don't think this is normal, but don't know what to do. > Should I erase my 80M segment memories and reload them? > > Oh BTW, I was not running the amp last night - just using the tuner. > I'm a good boy. > > -- > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at , now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbunte at gmail.com From ardrhi at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 11:44:53 2020 From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 11:44:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <1522443136.793415.1596374651177@mail2.virginmedia.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <60623ed6-09f7-a321-fff6-e98c3bd0e20b@gmail.com> <79745981.187555.1596306116216@mail.yahoo.com> <7bf88cca-8ec9-b4b2-c2a7-f2d7c8724c53@gmail.com> <36f12270-f906-9c8b-c4d1-932279ba586d@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1522443136.793415.1596374651177@mail2.virginmedia.com> Message-ID: One of my favorite portable antennas is a homebrewed link dipole for 40, 30, and 20m. I tuned it very carefully for the middle of the CW portion of each band, but it's still fairly well tuned in the SSB portions of 40 and 20. I still use a tuner with it for phone, though, just to keep from stressing the radio. If I'm using my KX3, the internal tuner works just fine. If the radio doesn't have a builtin tuner, I have an Elecraft T1 that I use. If it's by some weird quirk of fate a radio that puts out too little for the T1 to register (a couple of my QRPp radios are like that), I pull out the ZM-2, and everything is cream cheese. (Cream cheese? Yes. https://youtu.be/c0m5wJRGHEQ) I still have a project hanging fire to try a fan dipole using horse farm electric fence webbing. It's poly webbing about 2" wide with 15 stainless-steel wires run lengthwise through the weave. I know they'll interact, but maybe with very careful trimming I can get it all to tune. With 3 bands, or maybe just 2, I'll have multiple wires for each band, and if I tune THOSE to a spread frequency set, maybe I can get a very wide bandwidth AND multiple bands on a single dipole strap. Or perhaps a vertical with counterpoise radials? Not sure which I want to experiment with. But I've got a lot of that strap (it was fairly cheap) and there's a nice clamp-on connector that connects all of the wires at once to a single connection for the power connections in its normal usage, but will also serve as a good feedpoint. Worth a try. If nothing else, I can rule out a multi-band fan and just go with a single band and get REALLY good bandwidth. (A company already sells monoband dipoles made of similar strap, but they charge through the NOSE.) But a link dipole is my favorite multi-band antenna, at least for portable use, where connecting and disconnecting the links isn't a big deal. It'd be a nightmare for a fixed base antenna...you'd have to use some kind of high-voltage, high-current relay, then you'd have the control wires interfering with the tuning...ack. Maybe SteppIR can try it...but then, if I was going to get a SteppIR, I'd get the new vertical that extends or retracts a tape up and down a PVC column to tune for each band, sort of like the "measuring tape" version of a screwdriver antenna. I still intend to make an automatic clothesline antenna using a stepper motor and a microcontroller at some point. I'll probably crib some of the control circuits from Jack's new book when it comes out! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73, Gwen, NG3P On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 9:24 AM CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Jim and Dave > > Let's start with Kevin KD5ONS and his 40m vertical. A great monobander > and I'm sure it performs very well on that band. He tells us it works > great on most other HF bands as well, using the wonderful Elecraft matching > ability. Had he stayed with that one antenna on that one band there would > be nothing more to say, but he desires a multi-band antenna and he now > thinks he's got one, thanks to Elecraft. However, as Jim points out, the > matching unit doesn't make his antenna work any better, it hides the losses > to make us feel better. Kevin is no doubt blissfully unaware of the loss > in the feeder and in the matching unit because it just works for him and > he's a happy customer. He is also unaware of the high voltages appearing > in the matching unit. I'm not sure how much power he's running but those > conditions could lead to failure and I want to advise him of the risk. > > This is where the phrase "it can be undesirable to have" comes in and the > follow-on advice to make it non-resonant on any band to avoid potentially > damaging conditions. I'm not saying anything new, I'm sure I read about > this when solid state RF amplifiers first came on the scene. > > I don't want to make assumptions about Kevin, but I guess he might not yet > be aware and ready to evaluate the vswr on his feeder for the other bands > and work out the transformation of voltages back at the rig. > > Perhaps we should take the time and ask him: > Kevin, what length and type of coax are you using to feed your 40m > vertical? What power are you running? If he answers, I'm sure you will be > able to help him do math. > > The great thing about this net is there are so many good folks willing to > help and I'm glad of the chance to raise this old subject. > > I suspect for most of us, we don't have the space for mono-banders and > multi-band antennas are the only practical solution and I'm very grateful > for the matching ability of my Elecraft rig, but I'm cautious, I wouldn't > run a mono-band antenna on another band without checking with my antenna > analyser first, but that's another amazing story. > > David G3UNA > > > > > > On 01 August 2020 at 23:09 Jim Brown wrote: > > > > > > On 8/1/2020 12:12 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > > My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his > generalization > > > that resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good. > > > > Same here. Most antennas that we can install are some form of > > compromise. Higher is better. One size fits all solutions generally > > don't perform as well as antennas optimized for a band or given > > application. Antenna tuners do NOT make an antenna work better, they > > simply allow the transmitter to put power into the feedline, and by > > optimizing the load that the transmitter sees, they reduce the > > distortion that the amplifier produces. Remember -- SWR is NOT a measure > > of antenna performance. Louder at the other guy's radio IS. Less RX > > noise IS. > > > > What we all would do if we could is often very different from what we > > CAN do. What we would rig to operate from a park bench or on a > > mountaintop is usually very different from what we would do at home. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ardrhi at gmail.com > From rick at tavan.com Sun Aug 2 11:47:03 2020 From: rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:47:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 feature suggestion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How about using the footswitch to interrupt the MIC line before it gets to the radio, either in-line or through a relay? /Rick N6XI On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:59 PM John Simmons wrote: > Stolen from Facebook: > Programmable PTT so that when using VOX on SSB, the PTT functions as a > mute (cough) switch > > -- > 73, > -de John NI0K > https://www.qrz.com/db/NI0K > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rtavan at gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA From oldmanshu at icloud.com Sun Aug 2 12:26:22 2020 From: oldmanshu at icloud.com (Joseph Shuman) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:26:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Antenna Works Message-ID: <734184ED-B7FA-41DE-9A8F-82B6BE333CB9@icloud.com> Even in my professional life I operate using a philosophy of three simple rules. As for antennas: 1. I get a match. 2. I can hear the other Ham. 3. They can hear me. Simple enough, and I have made contacts on my KX2 using an umbrella frame on a stick. Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ From rich at wc3t.us Sun Aug 2 14:46:28 2020 From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:46:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Antenna Works In-Reply-To: <734184ED-B7FA-41DE-9A8F-82B6BE333CB9@icloud.com> References: <734184ED-B7FA-41DE-9A8F-82B6BE333CB9@icloud.com> Message-ID: K2MIJ is a big fan of - shall we say - unorthodox antennas. His claim to fame, as it were, is the ?Limbo Stick? cut for various bands. You can find him on almost any Internet search. He?s also set up using folding aluminum chairs as radiators and tape measures as counterpoises. Quite ingenious use of conductive materials. On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:26 Joseph Shuman via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Even in my professional life I operate using a philosophy of three simple > rules. As for antennas: > > 1. I get a match. > 2. I can hear the other Ham. > 3. They can hear me. > > Simple enough, and I have made contacts on my KX2 using an umbrella frame > on a stick. > > Keeping Watch- > shu > > Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* From Lyn at LNAINC.com Sun Aug 2 14:54:51 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:54:51 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express In-Reply-To: <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0aa001d668fe$67433d10$35c9b730$@LNAINC.com> Brett - I'm not Bob ... but I might be able to help with your Winlink issues. I am quite active on the various P2P modes in Winlink express and have formed a nationwide group to become proficient in handling P2P message traffic in the case of a "grid down" emergency (no internet, no cells, no repeaters, no power). You may be too close to the gateway station, especially with a vertical antenna (NVIS might even be marginal at 5 miles). If you'd like some other stations to try, at a greater distant and in P2P mode, let me know. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of MaverickNH Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 8:59 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express Any luck with that Bob? I've been using Winlink on Packet VHF from a Kenwood TM-D710G but wanted to try 80m with my K3S. I'm to the point where Ardop is trying to connect to a local gateway about 5mi away from a 43ft vertical with remote ATU at base at 50W. No connection yet... I'm able to RX/TX on WSJT-X so figure my configuration should work, but perhaps I need to tweak it for Ardop? BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 15:29:34 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:29:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Antenna Tuner "Hunting" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had a similar issue, and received this reply from Dick Dievendorff. I hope it helps you, as it did me. Forwarded with Dick's permission. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 6:14 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: Hi, Eric! There is an ATU MODE SWITCH menu setting that might influence this. With "ALL BANDS", the ATU Mode doesn't change from band to band. If you change the ATU Mode to BYP on one band, it should stay bypassed as you switch from band to band. If you have ATU MODE SWITCH set to "PER BAND" and turn the ATU to Bypass on 20 meters, then band switch to 30 meters, the ATU should return to the last-used ATU MODE on the new (30-meter) band. That might enable the ATU on band switch. I did exactly what you said you did with 2.38; I set the amp to STBY, ATU mode to BYP, turned the K3 ATU on and pressed ATU TUNE on the K3. The amp's SWR bar shows SWR, but the amp's ATU didn't change from its bypassed setting and it didn't start tuning. If the KPA1500 ATU Mode is "Bypass", (ATU IN LED dark) it shouldn't start tuning on its own. If both ATU IN and BYP are lit, that means the ATU Mode is "IN" (meaning "ATU function enabled"), but the current ATU setting is bypassed. Then it should change ATU settings when needed. It's a fine point on ATU MODE bypass versus ATU MODE IN with ATU setting currently bypassed. The ATU, when in, can set relays for a number of inductors and capacitors. During ATU tuning it might find that "all relays bypassed" is the best setting to choose. The ATU then uses its "bypassed" relay settings, but the ATU MODE is still "in", meaning "ATU function enabled". I didn't initially show both LEDs when the ATU is both "enabled" and the current ATU setting is "bypassed", but in Field Test it was suggested that we indicate when the ATU is currently set to its bypassed setting. I didn't do that in KAT500. So if the "IN" LED is lit, the ATU is not in ATU MODE BYP, even if the ATU BYP LED is also lit. If the amp is in Mode STBY, and the ATU is *not* bypassed, the ATU should retune if its "ATU HiSWR" setting is on for 30 meters. The intent is that the KPA1500's ATU should be available at 100W, with the KPA1500 in STBY, perhaps some don't have an ATU in their exciter and can use the amp's ATU without using the amp's PA. If you want the amp's ATU available on 30 meters, but don't want it retuning on its own, turn off ATU HiSWR RETUNE for 30 meters. Hope I haven't made this more confusing... We're trying to satisfy a lot of differing situations. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 6:38 AM N4ZR wrote: > Last night in NAQP I noticed that on 80 meters my tuner would hunt > endlessly, calling for tune power, then finishing, then asking again > with the ATU IN LED blinking. > From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 15:48:32 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:48:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New Antenna Works In-Reply-To: <734184ED-B7FA-41DE-9A8F-82B6BE333CB9@icloud.com> References: <734184ED-B7FA-41DE-9A8F-82B6BE333CB9@icloud.com> Message-ID: I agree with Joseph. I have been able to bust pileups on recent dxpeditions such as VP8PJ, VP6R, and VP6D on 30m and 60m, even though I don't have antennas on those bands. The SWR was 10:1 on my 80/40 vertical, and even though I was blissfully aware of the high voltages in the tuner, and the losses in the coax, it didn't matter. They're in the log, and my faith in the near-magical tuning ability of the KAT50O remains undiminished. Dance with the girl you brung. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 9:26 AM Joseph Shuman via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Even in my professional life I operate using a philosophy of three simple > rules. As for antennas: > > 1. I get a match. > 2. I can hear the other Ham. > 3. They can hear me. > > Simple enough, and I have made contacts on my KX2 using an umbrella frame > on a stick. > > Keeping Watch- > From w2ljqrp at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 16:34:51 2020 From: w2ljqrp at gmail.com (Larry Makoski) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 16:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - two weeks away! Message-ID: We're just two weeks away! Sunday, August 16th is the running of the 9th Annual NJQRP Skeeter Hunt. If you haven't gotten your Skeeter Number, now is the perfect time. While a number is not needed to participate, it certainly adds to the fun! Just send an e-mail to w2ljqrp at gmail.com with your call sign, name and the state or province that you will be operating from. You will receive an e-mail back with your number for 2020. New numbers are issued each year, so don't assume the number you may have had previously is the same going forward. All the rules for this Summer Sprint can be found at https://www.qsl.net/w2lj/ Don't forget that this year, bonus points will be given to those using home brewed antennas during the Hunt. During this time of the pandemic, please take all necessary precautions to keep you and your loved ones safe. As has always been the case for the Skeeter Hunt, operating from your backyard with a temporary antenna and an alternative power source STILL counts as a portable operation for the multiplier. If you feel uncomfortable with going to a public park or setting - there's no need to! However, if you have a place in mind that you know will be safe with minimal or no interaction with the public, then that's fine too. In all cases, we trust you to use common sense. Above all, have fun, stay safe and may the propagation be with us! 73 de Larry W2LJ - NJQRP Contest Manager - Skeeter # 13 From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 20:31:41 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:31:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Change to the 80 Meter Net at 01:00 UTC Message-ID: We thought this might happen. Please Look for us at 3.942 Not 3.940 We needed to move slightly to not catch another high power station that has been beating up a few on receive..Sorry.. See you at 01:00 Paul - KB9AVO From w8lvn.9 at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 20:51:13 2020 From: w8lvn.9 at gmail.com (Bill Lederer) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 19:51:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply Message-ID: Friends: I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short of getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can power a 12-watt radio. Thanks. -- --w8lvn-- From rich at wc3t.us Sun Aug 2 21:04:57 2020 From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 21:04:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For an AC supply IMHO there is only one choice. https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 20:51 Bill Lederer wrote: > Friends: > > I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, > largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the > internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. > > I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short of > getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can > power a 12-watt radio. > > Thanks. > > -- > --w8lvn-- > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 21:05:06 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 21:05:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is what you want ? https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ Grant NQ5T > On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Bill Lederer wrote: > > Friends: > > I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, > largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the > internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. > > I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short of > getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can > power a 12-watt radio. > From nv4c.ian at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 21:06:40 2020 From: nv4c.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 21:06:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill, I don't know if this helps or not, but for Field Day, I used a deep cycle marine battery to power my KX2. Worked like a charm. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 8:52 PM Bill Lederer wrote: > Friends: > > I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, > largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the > internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. > > I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short of > getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can > power a 12-watt radio. > > Thanks. > > -- > --w8lvn-- > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nv4c.ian at gmail.com > From w8lvn.9 at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 21:13:39 2020 From: w8lvn.9 at gmail.com (Bill Lederer) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:13:39 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What a great list! Three answers before I got downstairs! Thanks all. On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 20:05 Grant Youngman wrote: > This is what you want ? > > https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ > > Grant NQ5T > > > On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Bill Lederer wrote: > > > > Friends: > > > > I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, > > largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the > > internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. > > > > I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short > of > > getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can > > power a 12-watt radio. > > > > -- --w8lvn-- From slrowe at wisc.edu Sun Aug 2 21:20:05 2020 From: slrowe at wisc.edu (SAMUEL L ROWE) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:20:05 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: That's what I use. Sam KG9NG ________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of w8lvn.9 at gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:13 PM To: Grant Youngman Cc: Elecraft Refl Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply What a great list! Three answers before I got downstairs! Thanks all. On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 20:05 Grant Youngman wrote: > This is what you want ? > > https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ > > Grant NQ5T > > > On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Bill Lederer wrote: > > > > Friends: > > > > I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, > > largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the > > internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. > > > > I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short > of > > getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can > > power a 12-watt radio. > > > > -- --w8lvn-- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kg9ng at arrl.net From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 2 21:20:45 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 21:20:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66248369-de04-540d-aee5-c11cc99a7e2d@embarqmail.com> Bill, Take a look at the Pro Audio Engineering power supply. Although it was designed initially for the KX3, it works very well with the KX2. No RFI on the ham bands, so you can regard it as a noise-free switching supply. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/2/2020 8:51 PM, Bill Lederer wrote: > Friends: > > I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, > largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the > internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. > > I am wondering if KX2 owners have used a DC supply to power this--short of > getting an Astron or equivalent--one that is just the right size that can > power a 12-watt radio. > > Thanks. > From kevinr at coho.net Mon Aug 3 01:14:26 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 22:14:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: <902cc050-c88e-f96c-3851-fdc02c44c6e7@coho.net> Good Evening, ? Both bands had 4 S-unit QSB.? On twenty meters there was more noise on the inverted-V compared to the 1/4 wave vertical.? On forty meters the vertical had more noise.? The new antenna performed well bringing more signals out of the noise. ?? The time change for forty meters helped too.? The signals were stronger but the QSB was deep.? But it was still too early; thirty minutes later would let the band improve.? I got email after the net from a few of you with ESP signal reports.? Previously, copy was impossible.? I'll keep testing to figure out when 40 meters is better.? Too late and the traffic nets begin.? Too early and the band is not awake.? Luckily the days are growing shorter. ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z: NO8V - John - MI W0CZ - Ken - ND K4TO - Dave - KY K4JPN - Steve - GA K6XK - Roy - IA K0DTJ - Brian - CA ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0030z: K0DTJ - Brian - CA K4TO - Dave - KY K6PJV - Dale - CA W0CZ - Ken - ND AC0E - Jim - KS Weather was cooler, except for inland California and Georgia.? I can't imagine either place without air conditioning.? Here I had a space heater on low until noon.? I went out to water the plants soon after sunrise only to hear an elk bugling.? I don't think it's mating season but it was a nice morning.? Tomorrow I'm going to hike to my north to see if the coyotes have left any blackberries.? Active logging nearby may have kept them at bay. ? Until next week 73, ???? Kevin.? KD5ONS - No one remembers Firesign Theater?? Sigh ... From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 07:11:43 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 07:11:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power supply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f27f107.1c69fb81.2373c.2c03@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-02 19:51:-0500, Bill Lederer wrote: >Friends: > >I like to use my KX2 in my office with a wire out the window to a tree, >largely for listening, e.g. to ARRL code practice. I normally use the >internal battery and charge it up ever couple of weeks. I use a Bioenno Power LiFePO4 BLF-12045W - 12V 108W 54Wh to power my small radios, and a larger for all day field trips, such as supporting fund raisers (Diabetes, Lung, MS, etc.) where I am in a remote position all day. I see from the specs that the KX3 pulls ~150 mA during RX. That's 360h on a full charge. Of course I need to recharge it, but you do that now. And I have the added bennie of using the batt for all sorts of portable ops. The bennie of the ProAudio is plug and forget. I think the KX2 has an amp hr meter? So you would know when to recharge. Another bennie of the batt is that there are no cables and PS lying about...I am annoyed by those when I need to use them. From nelasat at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 08:22:32 2020 From: nelasat at yahoo.com (Keith Ennis) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 12:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] NEW KPA1500 Digital Display Unit ready to order References: <847815088.7765885.1596457352641.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <847815088.7765885.1596457352641@mail.yahoo.com> KPA1500 users,.? ? ?My new Digital Display Unit for the KPA1500 can be ordered now on my web site..??Displays the same display that is on the front KPA1500 Amplifier.??Display Unit can be located at a more visible location.?Up to the RS232 limit from the KPA1500 Amplifier.??Easy to read same 2 line display.??No USB or serial cable to computer.??No com port in Windows to manage.Plug and play.??Simply connect the supplied DC power cable to your 12 power supply and connect the supplied XCVR Serial data cable to the KPA1500.??Retains all functions of the KPA1500 front panel.??Only 4" x 4" x 2" in size.??NOTE: Icom users please note that my DDU uses the XCVR Serial port.??http://WWW.KV5J.COM .?? 73,? ??? ? Keith,kv5j From ptaa at ieee.org Mon Aug 3 10:08:41 2020 From: ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 07:08:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem In-Reply-To: <881c0582-ff0d-a79f-6433-2e5c37682ac3@embarqmail.com> References: <1595854256553-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <60265736-bbfd-39dc-91f8-91602ee9a832@gmail.com> <1595871278393-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <99e1dfc2-7395-c328-039b-55072c20cd5d@triconet.org> <1595876681681-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <8d20de6b-fd24-791a-41b4-adce53853999@triconet.org> <881c0582-ff0d-a79f-6433-2e5c37682ac3@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <1596463721950-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Checked all TMP connectors - no change. P-T ----- 73, Per-Tore / LA7NO -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Aug 3 11:26:00 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:26:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report In-Reply-To: <902cc050-c88e-f96c-3851-fdc02c44c6e7@coho.net> Message-ID: On 8/2/20 at 1:14 AM, kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) wrote: >Weather was cooler, except for inland California and Georgia.? >I can't imagine either place without air conditioning. I remember teasing a friend from Georgia about air conditioning. She finally put her hands on her hips, looked me straight in the eye, put on her strongest southern accent, and said, "Honey. It is every southern girl's BIRTHRIGHT to have air conditioning." We both laughed. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Can't fix stupid, but | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | duct tape can muffle the| 150 Rivermead Road #235 www.pwpconsult.com | sound... - Bill Liebman | Peterborough, NY 03458 From k5wa at comcast.net Mon Aug 3 12:59:21 2020 From: k5wa at comcast.net (K5WA) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:59:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote Message-ID: <070c01d669b7$6fd0e0e0$4f72a2a0$@comcast.net> Gary, >From a small email exchange I had with Wayne a year ago, the K4 will have all the RemoteRig capability (but more/better/faster) built into the K4 and can use their own software or another K4 as the control side. No outside control boxes needed. I sold all my RemoteRig stuff at that point. I assume you could keep the RemoteRig path and simply cable up to the K4 as you have done with the K3 to utilize legacy equipment since all the RemoteRig interfaces are standard connections on a K3 and not internal CPU circuit connections?but I am a long way from knowing that for sure. My EE degree was in Endless Eating. ? 73, Bob K5WA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Message: 10 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 07:37:33 -0400 From: Gary J Ferdinand > To: elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote Message-ID: <4B7D21C5-C2F4-43F0-AC85-B9EB0F9226DA at w2cs.org > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The doc for the K4 talks about K4:K4 remote or from computers. Right now I and others are using RemoteRig boxes to have K3S:K3S. Is there a means to do a K4:K3(s) using RemoteRig? Or is a K4 required on both ends? Might you flesh out the K4 remote configuration capabilities a bit for us? Tnx. 73, Gary W2CS From silver60 at charter.net Sat Aug 1 20:54:07 2020 From: silver60 at charter.net (Dick) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 20:54:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Free shipping Message-ID: John could not have said it better. I have been reading the comments on this subject, and it actually angered me a bit that anyone would even suggest this during a time of unprecedented pandemic. And things are actually NOT getting better regarding the virus, many states are seeing a huge increase. Elecraft is doing their level best to meet their shipments under tremendous handicap. If you have a working transmitter, what are you complaining about ? We have lost friends, ham radio friends to Covid-19. Yes, some of you have money on the table to reserve your order in advance, but NO ONE saw this virus coming , and NO ONE certainly thought it would be as bad as it is. For Elecraft, or any company for that matter, to offer free shipping after all they have lost in the past months, and months to come, is ludicrous. We do not want a company such as Elecraft to go under?..do we? Then give them a break, they are working as best they can to deliver to us. Patience is a virtue. 73, Dick / W1REJ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From wa6mse at arrl.net Mon Aug 3 13:22:45 2020 From: wa6mse at arrl.net (wa6mse at arrl.net) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 10:22:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 issue Message-ID: <9a7a2b90-ee5e-e9a1-929d-6887eb6eb2b4@q.com> I had something like that happen with my KPA1500.? The way to fix it is to unplug the amp, and plug it in. This happened to me when we had a SHORT power outage (both my K3s and KPA1500 were on).? The Amps fans went on high and the control head power switch didn't turn it off, even the switch on the PS didn't turn it off (I think). I opened a ticket, #0479,? with Elecraft support In January.? Same 10v issue.? Sent them logs, blah blah.? No resolution and no further communication. I THINK there is some sort of problem with the line that communicates between the K3 and KPA1500.? This issue is initiated by a very brief power outage. I was able to duplicate the problem. I sent all the info to Support, on how to duplicate the problem, but they never replied... Bottom line, the TEMPORARY fix is to 1. turn off the K3, 2. Unplug the Amp.? Plug amp back in, and power up k3 (which should also power up the KPA1500). I have a UPS on the K3, but not the Amp (for obvious reasons). Hopefully, Elecraft will eventually fix this issue. 73 Nigel Wa6MSE From jackbrindle at me.com Mon Aug 3 13:37:03 2020 From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 10:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 issue In-Reply-To: <9a7a2b90-ee5e-e9a1-929d-6887eb6eb2b4@q.com> References: <9a7a2b90-ee5e-e9a1-929d-6887eb6eb2b4@q.com> Message-ID: <9A3EA61A-434C-4A7C-9ECD-77F799C50D69@me.com> What is the context for this email? What is the issue? 73! Jack, W6FB > On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:22 AM, wa6mse at arrl.net wrote: > > I had something like that happen with my KPA1500. The way to fix it is to unplug the amp, and plug it in. > > This happened to me when we had a SHORT power outage (both my K3s and KPA1500 were on). The Amps fans went on high and the control head > power switch didn't turn it off, even the switch on the PS didn't turn it off (I think). > > I opened a ticket, #0479, with Elecraft support In January. Same 10v issue. Sent them logs, blah blah. No resolution and no further communication. > > I THINK there is some sort of problem with the line that communicates between the K3 and KPA1500. This issue is initiated by a very brief power outage. I was able to duplicate the problem. > > I sent all the info to Support, on how to duplicate the problem, but they never replied... > > Bottom line, the TEMPORARY fix is to 1. turn off the K3, 2. Unplug the Amp. Plug amp back in, and power up k3 (which should also power up the > KPA1500). > I have a UPS on the K3, but not the Amp (for obvious reasons). > > Hopefully, Elecraft will eventually fix this issue. > > 73 > Nigel > Wa6MSE > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrindle at me.com From MarkMu.Boeing747 at Yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 13:48:34 2020 From: MarkMu.Boeing747 at Yahoo.com (Mark Murray) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:48:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FYI: Elecraft web site still has the Pre-Order form for K3 / K3s Upgrades, Mods, Accessories, Options, including KIO3B Upgrade for K3 References: <000001d669be$50289d30$f079d790$.ref@Yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d669be$50289d30$f079d790$@Yahoo.com> Elecraft's web site thankfully still has an active "Interest Form" to "Pre-Order" certain mods, accessories and upgrades, and options, including the popular KIO3B for the K3, and other options for the K3s. ? Web link and some details below.? ?// Mark w2or ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ K3/K3S Options Pre-Order Interest Form https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form We are taking pre-orders for K3/K3S?Options?listed below. If you are interested in pre-ordering any of these products, please let us know. We will contact you with details once we have enough interest in specific options to place a material order with our suppliers. K3/K3S Accessories ? P3 Panadapter ? P3SVGA Video/FFT Adapter ? P3TXMON P3 Transmit Monitor (choose 1 coupler below, no charge) ? Directional Coupler DCHF-200 1.8-54 MHz ? Directional Coupler DCV/U-200 144-450 MHz ? Directional Coupler DCHF-2000 1.8-54 MHz ? K3/0 Mini Remote Control Panel ??? K3/K3S Options ? KPA3A Internal 100W Upgrade ? K144XV 144-148 MHZ 10W Internal Module ? K144RFLK K144XV Reference Lock Board ? KRX3A High Performance Subreceiver ? KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder ? KAT3A 100W ATU ? K3 Upgrades ? KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kit ? KSYN3A Upgrade Kit for K3, KRX3 (2nd Req'd if KRX3 is installed END. From jim at jtmiller.com Mon Aug 3 14:26:25 2020 From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 14:26:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question Message-ID: When using diversity what happens to the ability to do Split on the K3? Can I still listen to the pileup on VFO B and transmit on the VFO B frequency? Thanks jim ab3cv From n4zr at comcast.net Mon Aug 3 14:48:36 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 14:48:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FYI: Elecraft web site still has the Pre-Order form for K3 / K3s Upgrades, Mods, Accessories, Options, including KIO3B Upgrade for K3 In-Reply-To: <000001d669be$50289d30$f079d790$@Yahoo.com> References: <000001d669be$50289d30$f079d790$.ref@Yahoo.com> <000001d669be$50289d30$f079d790$@Yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94db82d9-096b-03db-93e4-05ab4b38fbe3@comcast.net> When you say they "still have" this form, has it been there long?? My order for the KIO3 update kit was accepted on June 15, but there has been no news since. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 8/3/2020 1:48 PM, Mark Murray via Elecraft wrote: > Elecraft's web site thankfully still has an active "Interest Form" to > "Pre-Order" certain mods, accessories and upgrades, and options, > including the popular KIO3B for the K3, and other options for the K3s. > Web link and some details below.? ?// Mark w2or > ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ > > K3/K3S Options Pre-Order Interest Form > https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form > > We are taking pre-orders for K3/K3S?Options?listed below. If you are > interested in pre-ordering any of these products, please let us know. > We will contact you with details once we have enough interest in > specific options to place a material order with our suppliers. > K3/K3S Accessories > > P3 Panadapter > > P3SVGA Video/FFT Adapter > > P3TXMON P3 Transmit Monitor (choose 1 coupler below, no charge) > > Directional Coupler DCHF-200 1.8-54 MHz > > Directional Coupler DCV/U-200 144-450 MHz > > Directional Coupler DCHF-2000 1.8-54 MHz > > K3/0 Mini Remote Control Panel > > K3/K3S Options > > KPA3A Internal 100W Upgrade > > K144XV 144-148 MHZ 10W Internal Module > > K144RFLK K144XV Reference Lock Board > > KRX3A High Performance Subreceiver > > KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder > > KAT3A 100W ATU > > K3 Upgrades > > KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kit > > KSYN3A Upgrade Kit for K3, KRX3 (2nd Req'd if KRX3 is installed > > END. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 15:26:12 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:26:12 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes. When you use diversity you are actually not using the VFO B synthesizer for the second rx. They are both fed from synth A. VFO B remains available for transmitting. I do this all the time. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ . On 03/08/2020 21:26, Jim Miller wrote: > When using diversity what happens to the ability to do Split on the K3? > > Can I still listen to the pileup on VFO B and transmit on the VFO B > frequency? > > Thanks > > jim ab3cv From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 3 16:57:29 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 20:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] SSB Net for 7-19-2020 References: <1267507437.884521.1596488249291.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1267507437.884521.1596488249291@mail.yahoo.com> Here is the list of stations from the 7-19-2020 list. My last email was returned so here it is again. Again thanks to the relay stations. Call???????????? Name????? State?????? Radio????? Serial #?? QRP???????????????????????????????????????? Notes WB9JNZ?????????? Eric??????????????? IL??????????????????? K3????????????????? 4017????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? NetControl? N6JW??????????????? John????????????? CA???????????????? K3????????????????? 936??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation K8NU/7?????????? Carl??????????????? OH/WA?????? Yaesu FT???? 2000????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? WM6P????????????? Steve??????????? GA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11453??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Relay Station? AE6JV?????????????? Bill????????????????? NH???????????????? K3????????????????? 6299????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? NC0JW???????????? Jim???????????????? CO???????????????? KX3?????????????? 1356????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Relay Station? N4NRW?????????? Roger?????????? SC????????????????? K3????????????????? 1318????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ?RelayStation K7BRR????????????? Bill????????????????? AZ????????????????? K3S??????????????? 10939??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N6PGQ??????????? Bob?????????????? CA???????????????? K3????????????????? 5891????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KO5V??????????????? Jim???????????????? NM?????????????? K2/100???????? 7225????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? WW4JF??????????? John????????????? TN???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11177??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? AE1P???????????????? Neil?????????????? NH???????????????? K3????????????????? 2970????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? W4DML?????????? Doug???????????? TN???????????????? K3????????????????? 6433????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KS6F????????????????? Guy ????????????? CA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11672??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N0MPM????????? Mike???????????? IA?????????????????? K3S??????????????? 10514??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KS7D???????????????? Mike???????????? FL?????????????????? K3????????????????? 118??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KG9NG??????????? Sam?????????????? WI???????????????? KX3/100????? 1749????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KB9AVO????????? Paul?????????????? IN????????????????? K3S??????????????? 11103??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K4FBI??????????????? Mike???????????? VA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11414??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? WA4GSD???????? Stan????????????? VA???????????????? Tentec???????? Omni 6???????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? W7QHD?????????? Kurt?????????????? AZ????????????????? K2/100???????? 1538????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KD4PBJ??????????? Chris???????????? TN???????????????? KX3?????????????? 10918??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N7GAD??????????? Galen?????????? AZ????????????????? K2????????????????? 6533????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K7JG???????????????? John????????????? WA??????????????? KX3?????????????? 3519????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KJ7PTX???????????? Richand?????? CA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11294??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K6WDE???????????? David??????????? CA???????????????? KX3?????????????? 4599????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? KE6KRR Brian????? CA????????? Icom????? 718???????? ??????????????? From jrichards at k8jhr.com Mon Aug 3 17:17:46 2020 From: jrichards at k8jhr.com (JHRichards) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 14:17:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express In-Reply-To: <0aa001d668fe$67433d10$35c9b730$@LNAINC.com> References: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <0aa001d668fe$67433d10$35c9b730$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <1596489466230-0.post@n2.nabble.com> a nationwide group to become proficient in handling P2P message traffic in the case of a "grid down" emergency (no internet, no cells, no repeaters, no power). ------------------------------------------------------- While that is a lovely gesture, it is neither realistic nor practicable. Your traffic handler and I have radios, but my in laws and relations do not. Moreover, when it gets THAT bad, I will NOT be on my radio. Instead, I will grab a gun and hunker down to protect my homestead and loved ones from looters. And, I expect your traffic handlers to do the same. If they are situated within the disaster area, they will be busy enough looking after their own, and if they are located outside the area, they are not likely to drive hundreds of miles in to hand-deliver messages of good tidings to my wife's disconnected family 200 miles away. Besides, FEMA and most other official agencies are not going to be embarrassed by another communications conundrum "when all else fails." Even the ARRL has backed away from that draconian position. At a recent Dayton Hamvention, FEMA made it abundantly clear the notion of ham operators riding high and saving the day are long gone. It clearly indicated ops must be FEMA trained and certified, and it will supply the radios. It gave an example where the only way local ham operators were involved in an actual emergency was to identify the highest hill in the area to put a temporary repeater. Thank you, good night, we will take it from here. Just MY take. K8JHR -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From jim at jtmiller.com Mon Aug 3 17:33:22 2020 From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:33:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks! Jim ab3cv On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:30 PM Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Yes. When you use diversity you are actually not using the VFO B > synthesizer for the second rx. They are both fed from synth A. VFO B > remains available for transmitting. > I do this all the time. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > . > On 03/08/2020 21:26, Jim Miller wrote: > > When using diversity what happens to the ability to do Split on the K3? > > > > Can I still listen to the pileup on VFO B and transmit on the VFO B > > frequency? > > > > Thanks > > > > jim ab3cv > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jim at jtmiller.com > From k0emt at dbbear.com Mon Aug 3 18:33:35 2020 From: k0emt at dbbear.com (Bryan Nehl) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Change log / Release notes for K2 firmware? References: <1948677727.111825.1596494015681.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1948677727.111825.1596494015681@mail.yahoo.com> I'm trying to locate the change log or release notes for the various K2 firmware. For example: what feature/improvements are in version X of the (ATU/IO/MCU) firmware? Is all the firmware stand alone, or should certain versions be upgraded at the same time or not mixed? 72 de Bryan, k0emt From dmboresz at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 From: dmboresz at gmail.com (Dale Boresz) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 20:01:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim, With BOTH 'Split' and 'Diversity' engaged, you will only be able to listen to VFO-A, although VBO-B WILL be your transmit frequency. In other words, you will be listening to the DX on VFO-A with full benefits of Diversity. However, you can press and hold the "REV" button on the K3 which will swap the VFO A/B frequencies, at which point you will be hearing the pileup in full diversity and your VFO-A cursor will change to your XMIT frequency. You will tune through the pileup with your main VFO (VFO-A) to figure out where you want to transmit, and when you release the "REV" button you will again be listening to the DX station on VFO-A but you'll notice that your P3 VFO-B cursor (and TX frequency) will be wherever you placed it using the VFO-A knob while depressing the "REV" button. I don't claim that this is the ONLY way to accomplish this, but it is the way I have been doing it for years. A downside is that you will not be able to simultaneously hear the DX in one ear while hearing the pileup in the other. This makes sense though since diversity allows you to listen via two different antennas, with one antenna per ear. It takes a bit of practice, but it works well. 73, Dale - WA8SRA On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 2:27 PM Jim Miller wrote: > When using diversity what happens to the ability to do Split on the K3? > > Can I still listen to the pileup on VFO B and transmit on the VFO B > frequency? > > Thanks > > jim ab3cv > > From k4pxjoe at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 20:05:48 2020 From: k4pxjoe at gmail.com (K4PX K4PX) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 20:05:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with ALS-1300/ARI 500 Message-ID: Anybody used the Ameritron ALS-1300/ARI 500 with the K3? Any tips? Joe K4PX From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 3 20:17:58 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 00:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] SSB Net 7-26-2020 References: <1380257435.966002.1596500278668.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1380257435.966002.1596500278668@mail.yahoo.com> Here is the log for 7-26-2020. Also want to include N8TTR, Mike, IN? K3? S/N 7009 from last weeks net. I somehow did not get him in the log. Also thanks to the relay stations for their help. 20 m. net 14.303.5 1800Z 40m. net??? 7240???? 1900Z 80 m. net??? 3940? ? 0100Z Eric WB9JNZ Call???????????? Name????? State?????? Radio????? Serial #?? QRP???????????????????????????????????????? Notes WB9JNZ?????????? Eric??????????????? IL??????????????????? K3????????????????? 4017????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????? NetControl? K8NU/7?????????? Carl??????????????? OH/WA?????? Yaesu FT???? 2000????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? WM6P????????????? Steve??????????? GA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11453??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? NC0JW???????????? Jim???????????????? CO???????????????? KX3?????????????? 1356????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation? N6JW??????????????? John????????????? CA???????????????? K3????????????????? 936??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KB9AVO????????? Paul?????????????? IN????????????????? K3S??????????????? 11103??????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation? KC1ACL??????????? Steve??????????? NM?????????????? KX3?????????????? 10677??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K7BRR????????????? Bill????????????????? AZ????????????????? K3S??????????????? 10939??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KF7ZN????????????? Ron?????????????? UT???????????????? K3S??????????????? 10832??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? AE6JV?????????????? Bill????????????????? NH???????????????? K3????????????????? 6299????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? AI6B/P???????????? Brian???????????? CA???????????????? KX3?????????????? 1869????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation? AE1E???????????????? Ken?????????????? NM?????????????? K3S??????????????? 11611??????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation? N6PGQ??????????? Bob?????????????? CA???????????????? K3????????????????? 5891????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KS6F????????????????? Guy ????????????? CA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11672??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? NK9A??????????????? Stan????????????? MI???????????????? Yaesu?????????? 757??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N7BDL????????????? Terry???????????? AZ????????????????? K3S??????????????? 10373??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? AE6XC????????????? Ray??????????????? CA???????????????? K3????????????????? 5815????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K0JFJ???????????????? Nick?????????????? MN?????????????? K3S??????????????? 11830??????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N7YW?????????????? Ken?????????????? AZ????????????????? K3????????????????? 8183????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? ? From 99sunset at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 20:49:00 2020 From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 20:49:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 40 meter SSB net time change Message-ID: As the 20 meter net is running longer than anticipated most days, the 40 meter net will move its time from 1845z to 1900z Sundays. 7280. The band was in pretty good shape with very little noise. Nice seeing many of you on the Zoom meeting. WM6P Steve GA Net control WB9JNZ Eric IL N0MPM Mike IA WY3T Tim FL KJ9B Ken IN KY4KS Keith KY KB9AVO Carl IN N4NRW Roger SC K8NU Carl OH NC0JW Jim CO KG4WXU Jerry Jerry KG4KQI Mike NC From wa2eio at optonline.net Mon Aug 3 21:58:22 2020 From: wa2eio at optonline.net (Ron Manfredi) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 21:58:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? Message-ID: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> I prefer to operate without headphones, but find the audio output from my KX-3 to be too weak to be usable, and the rigs' audio amp is not up to driving an external speaker very well.?? I tried both an amplified Motorola speaker and a small MFJ unit, but when using SSB (10-15 Watts) at home into a beam or into a dummy load I can hear myself quite clearly in the speaker, so RF is getting in somehow.?? (the rig's Monitor function is not turned on!)?? I have tried ferrites on both the power and audio lines to the speaker, but they have not helped.?? This is while using an Astron RS-35 linear supply for both the rig and the speaker.??? Any suggestions, or powered speaker recommendations? Ron,?? WA2EIO. From m.weiss at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 22:00:26 2020 From: m.weiss at yahoo.com (m.weiss at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 19:00:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Suggestion for Power Cord References: <001001d66a03$0607f800$1217e800$.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001d66a03$0607f800$1217e800$@yahoo.com> I think it would be a good thing if the KPA1500 50vdc power cable were the same length as the control cable that goes between the power supply to the RF deck. 73, Mark, K6FG From m.weiss at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 22:01:03 2020 From: m.weiss at yahoo.com (m.weiss at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 19:01:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Manual References: <001501d66a03$1c727e80$55577b80$.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501d66a03$1c727e80$55577b80$@yahoo.com> Is the user manual for the K4 available? If so, where? Tnx. Mark, K6FG From k7sss at aol.com Mon Aug 3 22:45:34 2020 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 02:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <783907141.167309.1596509134887@mail.yahoo.com> Ron,For a station speakers I use an older model of the West Mountain COMspkr. Works fine on KX2, KX3? and my laptop.?73Jim H? k7sss?In a message dated 8/3/2020 7:01:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, wa2eio at optonline.net writes:? I prefer to operate without headphones, but find the audio output from my KX-3 to be too weak to be usable, and the rigs' audio amp is not up to driving an external speaker very well.?? Any suggestions, or powered speaker recommendations??Ron,?? WA2EIO.?______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net?This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 3 22:47:23 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 02:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] SSB Net for 8-2-2020 References: <203629486.999782.1596509243409.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <203629486.999782.1596509243409@mail.yahoo.com> Elecraft Net Information Here are the SSB Nets that take place on Sundays. You do nothave to have an Elecraft Radio to check in to the net. We ask for the callsign, name, state, type of radio. If it is an Elecraft radio the model andserial number. 20 m. 1800Z???? 14.303.5??? Net Control EricWB9JNZ??????? IL 40 m. 1900Z??????7280??????? Net Control SteveWM6P?????? GA 80 m.? 0100Z????? 3940??????? Net Control Paul??? KB9AVO???IN Here is the log for stations checking in to the SSB Net for Aug. 2, 2020. Again, thanks to the relay station for their help hearing stations that otherwise cannot check in. ? Call???????????? Name????? State?????? Radio?????? Serial #?? QRP???????????????????????????????????????? Notes WB9JNZ?????????? Eric??????????????? IL??????????????????? K3?????????????????? 4017????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????? NetControl N6JW??????????????? John????????????? CA???????????????? K3?????????????????? 936??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KO5V??????????????? Jim???????????????? NM?????????????? K2/100????????? 7225????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation N4NRW?????????? Roger?????????? SC????????????????? K3?????????????????? 1318????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation WM6P????????????? Steve??????????? GA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11453?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation NC0JW???????????? Jim???????????????? CO???????????????? KX3??????????????? 1356????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????? RelayStation KB9AVO????????? Paul?????????????? IN????????????????? K3S??????????????? 11103?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K8NU??????????????? Carl??????????????? OH???????????????? K3S??????????????? 10996?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N6PGQ??????????? Bob?????????????? CA???????????????? K3?????????????????? 5891????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K4GCJ?????????????? Garry??????????? NC???????????????? K3?????????????????? 1597????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KS7D???????????????? Mike???????????? FL?????????????????? K3?????????????????? 118??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KS6F????????????????? Guy ????????????? CA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11672?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? N0MPM????????? Mike???????????? IA?????????????????? K3S??????????????? 10514?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K6VWE???????????? Stan????????????? MI???????????????? K3?????????????????? 650??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? WA6MPR??????? Jason??????????? MD??????????????? Yaesu??????????? 991A???????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? K0JFJ???????????????? Nick?????????????? MN?????????????? K3S??????????????? 11830?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KJ9B????????????????? Ken?????????????? IN????????????????? K3S??????????????? 10270?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KY4KS?????????????? Keith???????????? KY????????????????? KX3??????????????? 4954????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? W6ZTY????????????? Ron?????????????? CA???????????????? Kenwood??? TS590SG?????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? 1st time check in K6FW??????????????? Frank??????????? CA???????????????? K3S??????????????? 11672?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? W7QHD?????????? Kurt?????????????? AZ????????????????? K2/100????????? 1538????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? WB4TJH?????????? Bill????????????????? MO?????????????? K2/100????????? 312??????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? AE1E???????????????? Ken?????????????? NM?????????????? K3S??????????????? 11611?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? KC1ACL??????????? Steve??????????? NM?????????????? KX3??????????????? 10677?????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ? W7HSG??????????? Ralph??????????? AZ????????????????? K3?????????????????? 4629????????????? Eric WB9JNZ hoping everyone has a good week. Join us for one or more of our nets next week. ???????????????????????????????????????????????? From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Aug 3 23:03:09 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 23:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Manual In-Reply-To: <001501d66a03$1c727e80$55577b80$@yahoo.com> References: <001501d66a03$1c727e80$55577b80$@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <361C0CAF-BFDE-4E17-9783-9720DA7276D6@widomaker.com> No. Not until radios start to ship. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:05 PM, m.weiss--- via Elecraft wrote: > > ?Is the user manual for the K4 available? If so, where? > > > > Tnx. > > > > Mark, K6FG > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 3 23:23:14 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 20:23:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <5c1af835-6fbf-efd6-1291-bd1b88039834@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/3/2020 6:58 PM, Ron Manfredi wrote: > I tried both an amplified Motorola speaker and a small MFJ unit, but > when using SSB (10-15 Watts) at home into a beam or into a dummy load I > can hear myself quite clearly in the speaker, so RF is getting in somehow. Powered speakers have a power amplifier built in, which are notorious for RF susceptibility. The causes are typically poor shielding and/or Pin One Problems, but things we do wrong (or fail to do) in the shack or with our antennas can put lots of RF into a powered speaker, making it more likely for RFI to occur. Motorola products are generally designed for UHF 2-way applications, and are unlikely to have been designed for use around HF transmitting antennas. What antenna system are you using? If it's some form of end-fed wire ending in the shack, does it have a counterpoise? It should. If up in the air with a feedline, does it have a serious common mode choke at the feedpoint? How is your station bonded? How is it grounded? Station grounding and bonding is covered here. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf RFI is covered here. The chokes recommended for killing noise would also appropriate for cables feeding the speaker (both power and audio). http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf Transmitting chokes are covered here. http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From ardrhi at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 23:51:33 2020 From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 23:51:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <5c1af835-6fbf-efd6-1291-bd1b88039834@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> <5c1af835-6fbf-efd6-1291-bd1b88039834@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: I bought a small, rechargeable Bluetooth speaker with an Aux input jack. I can use it for more than just my KX3 that way. It's relatively small, a little on the weighty side, and the battery lasts a long time. Charges with microUSB fairly quickly. I have not noticed any effect on the speaker from transmitting on the KX3, whether wired to the Aux jack via shielded 3.5mm jumper cable, or by Bluetooth transmitter (below). Tribit XSound Go: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07594HZ6Y I do have a small Bluetooth transmitter I can plug into the radio and then pair the speaker or my BT headset, but I rarely use it. The model transmitter I got is no longer available, but these look decent: (Note: I have NOT tried these transmitters. I may get one of them, because they're BT 5.0 and have lower latency.) https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Simultaneously/dp/B01EHSX28M https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless-dp-B01IV1H1ME/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73, Gwen, NG3P On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:23 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/3/2020 6:58 PM, Ron Manfredi wrote: > > I tried both an amplified Motorola speaker and a small MFJ unit, but > > when using SSB (10-15 Watts) at home into a beam or into a dummy load I > > can hear myself quite clearly in the speaker, so RF is getting in > somehow. > > Powered speakers have a power amplifier built in, which are notorious > for RF susceptibility. The causes are typically poor shielding and/or > Pin One Problems, but things we do wrong (or fail to do) in the shack or > with our antennas can put lots of RF into a powered speaker, making it > more likely for RFI to occur. Motorola products are generally designed > for UHF 2-way applications, and are unlikely to have been designed for > use around HF transmitting antennas. > > What antenna system are you using? If it's some form of end-fed wire > ending in the shack, does it have a counterpoise? It should. If up in > the air with a feedline, does it have a serious common mode choke at the > feedpoint? How is your station bonded? How is it grounded? > > Station grounding and bonding is covered here. > http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf > > RFI is covered here. The chokes recommended for killing noise would also > appropriate for cables feeding the speaker (both power and audio). > http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf > > Transmitting chokes are covered here. http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ardrhi at gmail.com > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Aug 4 00:00:12 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 21:00:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> <5c1af835-6fbf-efd6-1291-bd1b88039834@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <8db96ca4-4b68-c54c-3214-359b08987ef5@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/3/2020 8:51 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > I do have a small Bluetooth transmitter I can plug into the radio and then > pair the speaker or my BT headset, but I rarely use it. Although I haven't tried it, I suspect that the latency would make it useless when sending CW with a paddle or straight key. (I haven't used a straight key since I was a Novice, almost 65 years ago.) 73, Jim K9YC From ardrhi at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 00:09:56 2020 From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 00:09:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <8db96ca4-4b68-c54c-3214-359b08987ef5@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> <5c1af835-6fbf-efd6-1291-bd1b88039834@audiosystemsgroup.com> <8db96ca4-4b68-c54c-3214-359b08987ef5@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: I didn't notice that much latency, but I did just order a 5.0 model (which has much lower latency than early BT versions) mostly because it might be useful for other things, has a 20-hour battery life, and can operate while charging. If it is high enough to bug you, the Aux cable works fine and has practically no latency. (Yes, I know there's a minuscule latency from speed of transmission through wires, but let's not be pedantic to the point of absurdity, you'll never hear the latency on a wired connection.) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73, Gwen, NG3P On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:00 AM Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/3/2020 8:51 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > > I do have a small Bluetooth transmitter I can plug into the radio and > then > > pair the speaker or my BT headset, but I rarely use it. > > Although I haven't tried it, I suspect that the latency would make it > useless when sending CW with a paddle or straight key. (I haven't used a > straight key since I was a Novice, almost 65 years ago.) > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ardrhi at gmail.com > From w4jz at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 4 00:51:09 2020 From: w4jz at bellsouth.net (Reed Fite) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 04:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? References: <743160691.241817.1596516669286.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <743160691.241817.1596516669286@mail.yahoo.com> I have had very good luck with this speaker, if you can find it.? I use 3 AA batteries which will last a very long time. No RFI on batteries, but if you use USB for power I do hear RFI. https://evertek.com/Product/HY-519-SK-BLK Reed? W4JZ From ghyoungman at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 00:53:22 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 00:53:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <0AAB2855-8E2E-4CD7-979E-6C6ECB46C97B@gmail.com> I?ve tried several powered speakers on my KX3. Currently, I use a (discontinued) Sony SRS-X33 I bought at Best Buy when I got the KX3 a few years ago. I use it wired. Plays really well if you EQ out all the low end. It isn?t large, but it is relatively heavy. Last year I dropped almost $200 on a highly recommended FOXL Dash 7. While I really like how it sounds, and it?s slimmer and much lighter than the Sony and packs better in the Go Bag, it?s a monster of an RF generator. So it?s useless. If your hand is anywhere near it you become the antenna. Probably has a DC-DC converter in there that is completely unfiltered and unshielded. The Sony is dead quiet. I have another thingy around here somewhere, also recommended, and inexpensive, which is so flimsy I managed to break it after about a months use. And the audio from it was thin and sub-par anyway. All of that said, I?ve never had an issue with KX3-level RF getting into any of these. I do use my KX3 at home, but even then it?s ?backyard portable?, into simple wire antennas, without any concern about grounding/bonding/etc. My wire antennas use the feed coax as the counterpoise, with a choke right at the KX3. And I haven?t had any RF issues with any of these. There may of course be other issues, But it could simply be the speakers themselves. The problem is you could try 5 of them before you find one that?s RF quiet and doesn?t act like a modulation monitor. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Ron Manfredi wrote: > > I prefer to operate without headphones, but find the audio output from my KX-3 to be too weak to be usable, and the rigs' audio amp is not up to driving an external speaker very well. I tried both an amplified Motorola speaker and a small MFJ unit, but when using SSB (10-15 Watts) at home into a beam or into a dummy load I can hear myself quite clearly in the speaker, so RF is getting in somehow. (the rig's Monitor function is not turned on!) I have tried ferrites on both the power and audio lines to the speaker, but they have not helped. This is while using an Astron RS-35 linear supply for both the rig and the speaker. Any suggestions, or powered speaker recommendations? > > Ron, WA2EIO. From Gary at ka1j.com Tue Aug 4 02:04:31 2020 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 02:04:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <361C0CAF-BFDE-4E17-9783-9720DA7276D6@widomaker.com> References: <001501d66a03$1c727e80$55577b80$@yahoo.com>, <361C0CAF-BFDE-4E17-9783-9720DA7276D6@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <5F28FA6F.2360.3F802628@Gary.ka1j.com> I would really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to enter, a how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest. Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic & exactly to the point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily replayed till the idea is understood. That, or a good legend accompanying a long, more encompassing presentation with reference time marks to know where to search for a given demonstration. We all learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my belt, but in my old age I still say I learn best by observing a demonstration than otherwise. But that's just me. 73, Gary KA1J From turnbull at net1.ie Tue Aug 4 03:47:36 2020 From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 08:47:36 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5F28FA6F.2360.3F802628@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> Gary makes a good suggestion.? ? TenTec use to have a CD? which accompanied the Orion 2.? ?This is going to be a pretty complex radio with all its features.? ?"Are we there yet?"Hang in there good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do not speak English.? ? That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Gary Smith Date: 04/08/2020 07:05 (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to enter, a how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest. Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic & exactly to the point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily replayed till the idea is understood. That, or a good legend accompanying a long, more encompassing presentation with reference time marks to know where to search for a given demonstration.We all learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my belt, but in my old age I still say I learn best by observing a demonstration than otherwise.But that's just me.73,GaryKA1J______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 04:23:13 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 01:23:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> References: <98d7ac8e-7991-2505-d760-54b58b96afc7@optonline.net> Message-ID: For simple, small, portable-friendly speakers, I used various models of iHome speakers (I used to carry a pair for emergencies when I gave a lot of presentations, and they would actually fill a room albeit at a whisper level. The "emergencies" became so frequent I began lugging my small bass amp). Later, I switched to an AlexMic, which, although more expensive, has beacoup audio power AND saves room cuz it's also a MIC. Also rechargeable. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 6:58 PM Ron Manfredi wrote: > I prefer to operate without headphones, but find the audio output from > my KX-3 to be too weak to be usable, and the rigs' audio amp is not up > to driving an external speaker very well. I tried both an amplified > Motorola speaker and a small MFJ unit, but when using SSB (10-15 Watts) > at home into a beam or into a dummy load I can hear myself quite clearly > in the speaker, so RF is getting in somehow. (the rig's Monitor > function is not turned on!) I have tried ferrites on both the power > and audio lines to the speaker, but they have not helped. This is > while using an Astron RS-35 linear supply for both the rig and the > speaker. Any suggestions, or powered speaker recommendations? > > Ron, WA2EIO. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com From billamader at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 05:00:41 2020 From: billamader at gmail.com (K8TE) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 02:00:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <39c8b912-ce1c-8f6d-92a8-d7637b6ca0ff@coho.net> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <5d2488dc-439c-6e92-e6e3-88418a80efee@audiosystemsgroup.com> <39c8b912-ce1c-8f6d-92a8-d7637b6ca0ff@coho.net> Message-ID: <1596531641035-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas instantly which I assume from his description. Most antenna anecdotes state something like "It works much better than...I had up previously. But, both antennas aren't up and in use at the same time. My good friend Alan, K0BG, puts it very well. "WORKs is an acronym which means WithOut Real Knowledge." Why? Because the performance assertions are not comparative like one gets when using two WSPRLit transmitters on two antennas at the same time over time. Those data will show which antenna performs better and how consistently better one antenna is than the other. In every case when I compare antennas, they always out-perform one or two others at some point in time. But, one of the three performs better on certain bands at certain times, most, but not all of the time. This past Saturday, I frequently noted one dipole out-performed the other on a specific station at a specific time, regardless of the band (40m and 20m). I had callers answer my CQ's that I could not here on the other dipole and that was true for both dipoles most of the time. They would "change places" at different times for the same paths. Being able to instantly switch between antennas (K3 with internal ATU) helped me make more contacts than if I had just one of those dipoles, both about the same height, but at nearly right angles to each other. When I had a vertical in the air, it would sometimes out-perform both dipoles over the same paths. Every antenna "WORKS", even a dummy load with imperfect coax. Some antennas generally out-perform others. Don't tell me yours works better than mine without scientific proof, not anecdotes. W8JI has done a lot of antenna modeling and on-the-air comparisons in making assertions about antennas' performance. I recently read his statement about end-fed wires being a cult today. He goes on to explain their failings don't appear when using QRP and with no other antenna available for comparisons. As N0AX wrote, "The best antennas is the one that is up in the air." or similar words. He also wrote the half wave dipole is simple and it works well and makes the best first choice. I would add, the higher the better until it's a half wavelength high. K9YC has done modeling that points this out and debunks most of the NVIS myths that abound in which users state we need to lower our antennas for NVIS. I use end-fed wires when appropriate--SOTA, POTA, and on county lines were simplicity and rapid deployment matter more than RFI, most of which I can mitigate or ignore. I use dipoles at home and most are resonant. I also use WSPRLite to get scientific performance data before I assert they WORK or which one is better. As I wrote above, I will keep both those dipoles because they both out-perform the other at times. As my antenna farm grows, one dipole will remain as my measurement "standard" so I can truly say my new antenna (nothing short and shiny) out-performs my dipole. And yes, neither is perfect so I use a tuner when necessary on certain bands/frequencies. 73, Bill, K8TE -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From cbjesseenh at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 07:06:46 2020 From: cbjesseenh at comcast.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express Message-ID: <27063ecc-fb83-4037-99d4-ebcfdfb1e73a@iPad-159> Thanks Lyn - just joined up on Slack and will check in soon. Day job getting in the way of my hobbies again! Best regards, Bret aka Charles Jessee N4SRN ------ Original Message ------ Brett - I'm not Bob ... but I might be able to help with your Winlink issues. I am quite active on the various P2P modes in Winlink express and have formed a nationwide group to become proficient in handling P2P message traffic in the case of a "grid down" emergency (no internet, no cells, no repeaters, no power). You may be too close to the gateway station, especially with a vertical antenna (NVIS might even be marginal at 5 miles). If you'd like some other stations to try, at a greater distant and in P2P mode, let me know. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of MaverickNH Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 8:59 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express Any luck with that Bob? I've been using Winlink on Packet VHF from a Kenwood TM-D710G but wanted to try 80m with my K3S. I'm to the point where Ardop is trying to connect to a local gateway about 5mi away from a 43ft vertical with remote ATU at base at 50W. No connection yet... I'm able to RX/TX on WSJT-X so figure my configuration should work, but perhaps I need to tweak it for Ardop? BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ From kb1tcd at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 07:10:35 2020 From: kb1tcd at gmail.com (JP Douglas) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:10:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <1596531641035-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <5d2488dc-439c-6e92-e6e3-88418a80efee@audiosystemsgroup.com> <39c8b912-ce1c-8f6d-92a8-d7637b6ca0ff@coho.net> <1596531641035-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <6714FBCB-D130-4BB8-99D7-FD99B54DA7FA@gmail.com> Some antennas work great in some places and not so in others depending on ground conditions, from personal experience in granite filled Maine. 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2020, at 5:00 AM, K8TE wrote: > > Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas instantly which I assume > from his description. Most antenna anecdotes state something like "It works > much better than...I had up previously. But, both antennas aren't up and in > use at the same time. > > My good friend Alan, K0BG, puts it very well. "WORKs is an acronym which > means WithOut Real Knowledge." Why? Because the performance assertions are > not comparative like one gets when using two WSPRLit transmitters on two > antennas at the same time over time. Those data will show which antenna > performs better and how consistently better one antenna is than the other. > In every case when I compare antennas, they always out-perform one or two > others at some point in time. But, one of the three performs better on > certain bands at certain times, most, but not all of the time. > > This past Saturday, I frequently noted one dipole out-performed the other on > a specific station at a specific time, regardless of the band (40m and 20m). > I had callers answer my CQ's that I could not here on the other dipole and > that was true for both dipoles most of the time. They would "change places" > at different times for the same paths. Being able to instantly switch > between antennas (K3 with internal ATU) helped me make more contacts than if > I had just one of those dipoles, both about the same height, but at nearly > right angles to each other. When I had a vertical in the air, it would > sometimes out-perform both dipoles over the same paths. > > Every antenna "WORKS", even a dummy load with imperfect coax. Some antennas > generally out-perform others. Don't tell me yours works better than mine > without scientific proof, not anecdotes. W8JI has done a lot of antenna > modeling and on-the-air comparisons in making assertions about antennas' > performance. I recently read his statement about end-fed wires being a cult > today. He goes on to explain their failings don't appear when using QRP and > with no other antenna available for comparisons. > > As N0AX wrote, "The best antennas is the one that is up in the air." or > similar words. He also wrote the half wave dipole is simple and it works > well and makes the best first choice. I would add, the higher the better > until it's a half wavelength high. K9YC has done modeling that points this > out and debunks most of the NVIS myths that abound in which users state we > need to lower our antennas for NVIS. > > I use end-fed wires when appropriate--SOTA, POTA, and on county lines were > simplicity and rapid deployment matter more than RFI, most of which I can > mitigate or ignore. I use dipoles at home and most are resonant. I also > use WSPRLite to get scientific performance data before I assert they WORK or > which one is better. As I wrote above, I will keep both those dipoles > because they both out-perform the other at times. As my antenna farm grows, > one dipole will remain as my measurement "standard" so I can truly say my > new antenna (nothing short and shiny) out-performs my dipole. And yes, > neither is perfect so I use a tuner when necessary on certain > bands/frequencies. > > 73, Bill, K8TE > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb1tcd at gmail.com From Lyn at LNAINC.com Tue Aug 4 07:56:53 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 06:56:53 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express In-Reply-To: <1596489466230-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <0aa001d668fe$67433d10$35c9b730$@LNAINC.com> <1596489466230-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0e6501d66a56$58771820$09654860$@LNAINC.com> I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, it is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others on local, regional and national levels. Many of us have completed the required FEMA training and participate in exercises regularly through our local organizations (ARES, etc.). The voluntary participation by Hams in the case of natural disasters, for example, is well documented. Many of us have taken it seriously enough to actually get the required training offered to us by FEMA, ARRL, etc. Groups such as SATERN and the Red Cross hold periodic Simulated Emergency Tests with the active participation of ham radio groups. Right now, hams in the South Carolina area are actively participating in emergency communications related to Hurricane Isaias. Are they "riding high and saving the day" ? Probably not, but they are contributing their skills and facilities in an effort to serve the public need. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JHRichards Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:18 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express a nationwide group to become proficient in handling P2P message traffic in the case of a "grid down" emergency (no internet, no cells, no repeaters, no power). ------------------------------------------------------- While that is a lovely gesture, it is neither realistic nor practicable. Your traffic handler and I have radios, but my in laws and relations do not. Moreover, when it gets THAT bad, I will NOT be on my radio. Instead, I will grab a gun and hunker down to protect my homestead and loved ones from looters. And, I expect your traffic handlers to do the same. If they are situated within the disaster area, they will be busy enough looking after their own, and if they are located outside the area, they are not likely to drive hundreds of miles in to hand-deliver messages of good tidings to my wife's disconnected family 200 miles away. Besides, FEMA and most other official agencies are not going to be embarrassed by another communications conundrum "when all else fails." Even the ARRL has backed away from that draconian position. At a recent Dayton Hamvention, FEMA made it abundantly clear the notion of ham operators riding high and saving the day are long gone. It clearly indicated ops must be FEMA trained and certified, and it will supply the radios. It gave an example where the only way local ham operators were involved in an actual emergency was to identify the highest hill in the area to put a temporary repeater. Thank you, good night, we will take it from here. Just MY take. K8JHR -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com From wa2eio at optonline.net Tue Aug 4 08:16:48 2020 From: wa2eio at optonline.net (Ron Manfredi) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 08:16:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Powered speaker suggestions? In-Reply-To: <743160691.241817.1596516669286@mail.yahoo.com> References: <743160691.241817.1596516669286.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <743160691.241817.1596516669286@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <33710d14-0dff-7047-4ada-b0228c3a94a1@optonline.net> Thanks for all the suggestions for speakers and the advice on station feedlines/antennas, grounding, etc.?? I have enough info now to follow up on! 73,?? Ron?? WA2EIO On 8/4/2020 12:51 AM, Reed Fite wrote: > I have had very good luck with this speaker, if you can find it.? I use 3 AA batteries which will last a very long time. No RFI on batteries, but if you use USB for power I do hear RFI. > https://evertek.com/Product/HY-519-SK-BLK > > Reed? W4JZ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa2eio at optonline.net From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 08:44:05 2020 From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (stephen shearer) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 08:44:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> References: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <22d1d4da-bd88-c8fc-60ea-b6ccd28beb1b@gmail.com> I AM SURE... When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be a "flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos. I am sure the how-to videos will follow. 73, steve WB3LGC On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote: > > Gary makes a good suggestion.? ? TenTec use to have a CD? which accompanied the Orion 2.? ?This is going to be a pretty complex radio with all its features.? ?"Are we there yet?"Hang in there good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do not speak English.? ? That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > -------- Original message --------From: Gary Smith Date: 04/08/2020 07:05 (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to enter, a how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest. Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic & exactly to the point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily replayed till the idea is understood. That, or a good legend accompanying a long, more encompassing presentation with reference time marks to know where to search for a given demonstration.We all learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my belt, but in my old age I still say I learn best by observing a demonstration than otherwise.But that's just me.73,GaryKA1J______________________________________________________________ From pincon at erols.com Tue Aug 4 09:45:11 2020 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 09:45:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <6714FBCB-D130-4BB8-99D7-FD99B54DA7FA@gmail.com> References: <000001d666ed$b64f9740$22eec5c0$@roadrunner.com> <323228291.752104.1596186299390@mail2.virginmedia.com> <5d2488dc-439c-6e92-e6e3-88418a80efee@audiosystemsgroup.com> <39c8b912-ce1c-8f6d-92a8-d7637b6ca0ff@coho.net> <1596531641035-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <6714FBCB-D130-4BB8-99D7-FD99B54DA7FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301d66a65$7d643a50$782caef0$@erols.com> It would seem that using the Diversity Reception capability in several current radios, would be an ideal way to evaluate two antennas, although, I realize having both antennas up at the same time is not always possible. 73, Charlie k3ICH Some antennas work great in some places and not so in others depending on ground conditions, from personal experience in granite filled Maine. 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:18:26 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:18:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Change log / Release notes for K2 firmware? In-Reply-To: <1948677727.111825.1596494015681@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1948677727.111825.1596494015681.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1948677727.111825.1596494015681@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bryan, There is no change log for K2 firmware. Some upgrades were made to support hardware and option additions. The last MCU version 2.04R locked the sidetone source at U8-4 to reduce the number of support calls saying "My K2 lost its sidetone", and did nothing else over and above version 2.04P. If you have a K2 below SN 3000, you must do the sidetone source wiring mod unless that has already been done with the installation of the KIO2 or KPA100. Upgrading the MCU also requires upgrading the KIOC (RF board U1), but the firmware for the options can be upgraded separately. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/3/2020 6:33 PM, Bryan Nehl wrote: > I'm trying to locate the change log or release notes for the various K2 firmware. > For example: what feature/improvements are in version X of the (ATU/IO/MCU) firmware? > Is all the firmware stand alone, or should certain versions be upgraded at the same time or not mixed? > From bwruble at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:25:58 2020 From: bwruble at gmail.com (Brian F. Wruble) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:25:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working Message-ID: For some reason, I cannot connect to my KPA1500 using the USB port. With 2 different PCs, connecting to the USZ port does not result in the creation of a virtual port. I used to be able to talk to the amp using the utility program and the KPA1500 USB, but now I cannot. Can anybody suggest things for me to try? Tnx es 73 de Brian/W3BW -- *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. The Conch Republic "We seceded where others failed." From dave.g4aon at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:42:53 2020 From: dave.g4aon at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 17:42:53 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] 4m transverter for sale Message-ID: Ideal for use with a K3, I have for sale a HA1YA MET4-Pro 3 transverter. These are high grade microprocessor controlled transverters with a 0.5ppm TCXO and a level 16 dBm RX mixer (Mini Circuits HJK-3H). The IF frequency is 28MHz to 28.7MHz for 70 to 70.7MHz. Drive level is -15dBm to 5W, RF out is 30W. Mine has the additional fan unit. The manual gives more details: http://www.ha1ya.hu/pdf/pro3_manual.pdf Asking 450 GBP or near offer, plus carriage. They are approx 715 euros new. Please reply off line if interested. 73 Dave G4AON (dave dot g4aon at gmail dot com) -- Sent from my iPhone SE From wb4nfs at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 13:00:42 2020 From: wb4nfs at gmail.com (John O'Mara) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 13:00:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01a801d66a80$ca9d1a60$5fd74f20$@gmail.com> I had the same thing happen with my KPA1500 recently and just sent it back to Elecraft for repair. It is there now. I was able to use the Ethernet connection to connect to the Remote SW but that does no good when I need to update the firmware or use the Utility Program which can only be done via the USB port for some reason. I did the same thing as you and tried several different computers and made sure I had the correct FTDI drivers installed but for some reason the KPA1500 would not generate the virtual com port like it used to. I'll post to the reflector what the fix was once they get back to me. Jack W4NF -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian F. Wruble Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:26 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working For some reason, I cannot connect to my KPA1500 using the USB port. With 2 different PCs, connecting to the USZ port does not result in the creation of a virtual port. I used to be able to talk to the amp using the utility program and the KPA1500 USB, but now I cannot. Can anybody suggest things for me to try? Tnx es 73 de Brian/W3BW -- *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. The Conch Republic "We seceded where others failed." ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb4nfs at gmail.com From bwruble at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 13:01:34 2020 From: bwruble at gmail.com (Brian F. Wruble) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 13:01:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working In-Reply-To: <01a801d66a80$ca9d1a60$5fd74f20$@gmail.com> References: <01a801d66a80$ca9d1a60$5fd74f20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks! On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM John O'Mara wrote: > > I had the same thing happen with my KPA1500 recently and just sent it back > to Elecraft for repair. It is there now. I was able to use the Ethernet > connection to connect to the Remote SW but that does no good when I need to > update the firmware or use the Utility Program which can only be done via > the USB port for some reason. I did the same thing as you and tried > several > different computers and made sure I had the correct FTDI drivers installed > but for some reason the KPA1500 would not generate the virtual com port > like > it used to. > > I'll post to the reflector what the fix was once they get back to me. > > Jack W4NF > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian F. Wruble > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:26 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working > > For some reason, I cannot connect to my KPA1500 using the USB port. With 2 > different PCs, connecting to the USZ port does not result in the creation > of > a virtual port. I used to be able to talk to the amp using the utility > program and the KPA1500 USB, but now I cannot. Can anybody suggest things > for me to try? > > Tnx es 73 de Brian/W3BW > -- > > *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. > The Conch Republic > "We seceded where others failed." > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to wb4nfs at gmail.com > > -- *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. The Conch Republic "We seceded where others failed." From josh at voodoolab.com Tue Aug 4 13:12:00 2020 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 10:12:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> References: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <78A19352-1237-44B4-948A-C7506519A677@voodoolab.com> I see Elecraft has a youtube channel with 3 videos uploaded in the last few days. If we all subscribe to their channel that will be good incentive for them to produce content! https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCgPCrQYQttH83UWwZi_q4xQ 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device From ghyoungman at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 13:38:48 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 13:38:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <78A19352-1237-44B4-948A-C7506519A677@voodoolab.com> References: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> <78A19352-1237-44B4-948A-C7506519A677@voodoolab.com> Message-ID: <46EEF86F-EE6A-4FF5-AE6E-63BD93285A23@gmail.com> Good stuff. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: > > I see Elecraft has a youtube channel with 3 videos uploaded in the last few days. If we all subscribe to their channel that will be good incentive for them to produce content! > > https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCgPCrQYQttH83UWwZi_q4xQ > > 73 > Josh W6XU > > Sent from my mobile device From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 14:25:22 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 11:25:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft YouTube Channel In-Reply-To: <78A19352-1237-44B4-948A-C7506519A677@voodoolab.com> References: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com> <78A19352-1237-44B4-948A-C7506519A677@voodoolab.com> Message-ID: Share with your friends, club, or both! 73 Eric WD6DBM On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 10:12 AM Josh Fiden wrote: > I see Elecraft has a youtube channel with 3 videos uploaded in the last > few days. If we all subscribe to their channel that will be good incentive > for them to produce content! > > https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCgPCrQYQttH83UWwZi_q4xQ > > 73 > Josh W6XU > > Sent from my mobile device > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com > From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue Aug 4 15:05:28 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:05:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express In-Reply-To: <0e6501d66a56$58771820$09654860$@LNAINC.com> References: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <0aa001d668fe$67433d10$35c9b730$@LNAINC.com> <1596489466230-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <0e6501d66a56$58771820$09654860$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <586be944-27d5-aaa2-e241-b0a62b2ce265@foothill.net> "I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, it is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others on local, regional and national levels." Well ... For about 8 years, I coordinated the amateur communications for the Western States Endurance Run [100 miles, Squaw Valley CA to Auburn CA via the historic Western States Trail] and the Tevis Cup endurance ride on roughly the same course.? Both events draw entrants from around the world. Required about 100-120 hams and maybe an equal number of non-licensed family/friends with FRS radios around each of the aid stations.? Primary mission was safety and evacuation, often coordinating directly with medical airlift aircraft, secondary mission was logistics. These are large, grueling events with multiple hundreds of staff at 20+ aid stations.? Runners and horses will face ~18,000 ft of elevation gain, ~22,000 feet of descent, often run on snow and ice near the summit, in 110 degree heat in the lower canyons, and a 24 hour deadline.? Really not unlike a major disaster. One thing we proved conclusively, without exception, is that possession of an amateur radio license does not automatically make one a competent radio operator when the mission is anything but a rag chew.? We had to establish training sessions on standardized phraseology, message handling, details of the event, procedures, how the chain of command worked, and the like.? Prior to the events, we coupled up trail marking and clearing operations into exercises.? It is way more work and there are way more details to being truly effective that most believed, and many who started the training did not finish.? We always paired a new "training graduate" with a seasoned operator having found that even with the training program, a rookie operator alone at a station sometimes was less effective and created more problems than no operator at all. Amateur missions such as these are inherently local.? It is virtually impossible to show up somewhere with a radio and be effective unless the amateurs know the served agency and its mission well, are well known to the served agency, have a practiced plan and procedures, and are effective and professional communicators.? [See first sentence in 4th paragraph above]. If it seems I'm sort of camping with James, K8JHR, it's because, even though I don't own a gun right now, I am. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/4/2020 4:56 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the > participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, it > is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others on > local, regional and national levels. Many of us have completed the required > FEMA training and participate in exercises regularly through our local > organizations (ARES, etc.). > > The voluntary participation by Hams in the case of natural disasters, for > example, is well documented. Many of us have taken it seriously enough to > actually get the required training offered to us by FEMA, ARRL, etc. Groups > such as SATERN and the Red Cross hold periodic Simulated Emergency Tests > with the active participation of ham radio groups. > > Right now, hams in the South Carolina area are actively participating in > emergency communications related to Hurricane Isaias. Are they "riding high > and saving the day" ? Probably not, but they are contributing their skills > and facilities in an effort to serve the public need. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JHRichards > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:18 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express > > a nationwide group to become proficient in handling P2P message > traffic in the case of a "grid down" emergency (no internet, no cells, no > repeaters, no power). > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > While that is a lovely gesture, it is neither realistic nor practicable. > Your traffic handler and I have radios, but my in laws and relations do not. > > Moreover, when it gets THAT bad, I will NOT be on my radio. Instead, I > will grab a gun and hunker down to protect my homestead and loved ones from > looters. And, I expect your traffic handlers to do the same. If they are > situated within the disaster area, they will be busy enough looking after > their own, and if they are located outside the area, they are not likely to > drive hundreds of miles in to hand-deliver messages of good tidings to my > wife's disconnected family 200 miles away. Besides, FEMA and most other > official agencies are not going to be embarrassed by another communications > conundrum "when all else fails." Even the ARRL has backed away from that > draconian position. At a recent Dayton Hamvention, FEMA made it abundantly > clear the notion of ham operators riding high and saving the day are long > gone. It clearly indicated ops must be FEMA trained and certified, and it > will supply the radios. It gave an example where the only way local ham > operators were involved in an actual emergency was to identify the highest > hill in the area to put a temporary repeater. Thank you, good night, we > will take it from here. Just MY take. K8JHR > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k6dgw at foothill.net From n4zr at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 17:47:41 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 17:47:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list Message-ID: I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.? They don 't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3. -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. From w5sv.dave at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 17:47:58 2020 From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:47:58 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PTT ERROR Message-ID: <49c2481b-ecf2-c6ea-d752-1d6aa0595279@gmail.com> K3 in use with KPA1500; sometimes I get a seemingly random PTT error; any ideas what to look for? Thanks & 73 de W5SV, Dave From bill at wjschmidt.com Tue Aug 4 18:02:59 2020 From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 17:02:59 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <073d01d66aab$04878330$0d968990$@wjschmidt.com> Yes it is... I just got that msg and put my name/call on the list for one... Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ email: bill at wjschmidt.com -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N4ZR Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 4:48 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers. They don 't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3. -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bill at wjschmidt.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From joe at k2uf.com Tue Aug 4 18:10:57 2020 From: joe at k2uf.com (Joe K2UF) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:10:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just added my name to the list. Hope I did not procrastinate to long. Would like to upgrade my K3 as much as possible. 73, Joe K2UF -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From k2asp at kanafi.org Tue Aug 4 20:23:06 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 17:23:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Alinco EMS-14 mic with K2? Message-ID: For the 15 or so years that I have used my K2 the mic I used was an Adonis AM-308, a Kenwood-compatible desk mic. It gave me good service but failed recently, and is no longer available. It was replaced with the Alinco EMS-14 desk mic which appears to be a re-branded AM-308 (to the point where the pc board in the mic base carries the "AM-308" label). The cable pin-out on the 8-pin "Foster" connector is identical. The only difference appears to be that the Adonis mic used two AA batteries while the Alinco mic draws its power from the rig's +V on the mic connector. It should be plug-and-play compatible using the cables that worked with the Adonis mic but unfortunately the mic does not activate the K2. Does anyone have any experience using the Alinco EMS-14 mic? 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From kb1tcd at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 20:45:28 2020 From: kb1tcd at gmail.com (JP Douglas) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:45:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Alinco EMS-14 mic with K2? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have the mic but use it with the Alinco DX-8SR that I use as a cellar shack radio. Good mic, never tried to use it w/my Elecraft radio though... 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > > ? > For the 15 or so years that I have used my K2 the mic I used was an > Adonis AM-308, a Kenwood-compatible desk mic. It gave me good service > but failed recently, and is no longer available. It was replaced with > the Alinco EMS-14 desk mic which appears to be a re-branded AM-308 (to > the point where the pc board in the mic base carries the "AM-308" > label). The cable pin-out on the 8-pin "Foster" connector is identical. > The only difference appears to be that the Adonis mic used two AA > batteries while the Alinco mic draws its power from the rig's +V on the > mic connector. > > It should be plug-and-play compatible using the cables that worked with > the Adonis mic but unfortunately the mic does not activate the K2. > > Does anyone have any experience using the Alinco EMS-14 mic? > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb1tcd at gmail.com From nv4c.ian at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 20:53:26 2020 From: nv4c.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn, NV4C) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e4655db-313d-1a6a-4532-39db1ea878c9@gmail.com> I just added my name to the list for both a KIO3B and KSYN3A for my K3 s/n 281. Here's hoping we generate enough interest to justify them ordering more kits. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On 8/4/20 5:47 PM, N4ZR wrote: > I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my > mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient > interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.? They don 't > define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 > KIO3B update kit, go to > and tell > them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for > the K3. > From Gary at ka1j.com Tue Aug 4 22:06:18 2020 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:06:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <22d1d4da-bd88-c8fc-60ea-b6ccd28beb1b@gmail.com> References: <5f29129a.1c69fb81.3d3a9.7d0b@mx.google.com>, <22d1d4da-bd88-c8fc-60ea-b6ccd28beb1b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> Yes, That's the current way of things. What I suggest would be more like an on-line video operator's manual sanctioned by Elecraft, with logical menu to find the how-to, exactly, the function you want being done. I'm not thinking so much where is the Power Switch, but more like how to determine which thought process to use with the K4/K4D/K4HD to best accomplish commonly used procedures, and then how to get that done. Things like the display will be a bugger for awhile & the picture being worth a thousand words concept is magnified with concise video. Do-it-yourselfers on youtube will not get to the point & will be offering opinions which isn't helpful to the direct question. More, you'll have to use youtube's search engine to hopefully find what you're looking for, and then be subjected to advertisements before and during the presentation. It'll all be sorted out, I'm just thinking the official video how-to would be a real asset to many. Maybe not. 73 & stay safe, Gary KA1J > I AM SURE... > When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be a > "flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos. I am sure the how-to videos > will follow. > > 73, steve WB3LGC > > On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote: > > > > Gary makes a good suggestion.? ? TenTec use to have a CD? which > > accompanied the Orion 2.? ?This is going to be a pretty complex > > radio with all its features.? ?"Are we there yet?"Hang in there > > good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do > > not speak English.? ? That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my > > Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: > > Gary Smith Date: 04/08/2020 07:05 (GMT+00:00) To: > > elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would > > really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released > > on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to > > enter, a how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest. > > Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic & > > exactly to the point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily > > replayed till the idea is understood. That, or a good legend > > accompanying a long, more encompassing presentation with reference > > time marks to know where to search for a given demonstration.We all > > learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my belt, but in > > my old age I still say I learn best by observing a demonstration > > than otherwise.But that's just > > me.73,GaryKA1J______________________________________________________ From kc2lsd at yahoo.com Tue Aug 4 22:09:13 2020 From: kc2lsd at yahoo.com (Cody C) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 02:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working References: <25553193.77587.1596593353612.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <25553193.77587.1596593353612@mail.yahoo.com> My KPA just came back for the same issue. Elecraft replaced the USB protection diode pack. Hope this helps 73 Cody KC2LSD From allan at elstien.com Tue Aug 4 23:19:03 2020 From: allan at elstien.com (Allan Elstien) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 22:19:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] SUPERB K3S FOR SALE ALL FACTORY ASSEMBLED - USED A FEW TIMES Message-ID: <017501d66ad7$2bb910f0$832b32d0$@elstien.com> ITEM IS SOLD From: Allan Elstien Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 1:01 PM Subject: SUPERB K3S FOR SALE ALL FACTORY ASSEMBLED - USED A FEW TIMES I purchased this in June 2017 but with 7 times in hospital and house moved and third radio after ICOM and Flex never really used. I paid $5,924.35 and can send you invoice. What would you like to pay to purchase? I will pay for shipping and insurance. Think I have original boxes but not sure since I was in hospital during the house move. K3S Transceiver 100 W upgrade ATU for K3S Standard 5 ppm Oscillator 2.8 for 2.7 khz swap K3 500 hz filter K3 Digital voice recorder K3 2nd RX K3 2.8 khz filter K3 500 khz filter Panadapter for the K3 P3 Video/FFT Transmit Monitor for P3 Coupler, 1.8 - 54 mhz 1-2000 W External speaker Hand Held microphone for the K3 73 Allan N9AT From turnbull at net1.ie Wed Aug 5 03:21:16 2020 From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 08:21:16 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> Gary, This would indeed be an asset.? ? Wonder how much effort this would take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Gary Smith Date: 05/08/2020 03:07 (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 training Yes, That's the current way of things. What I suggest would be more like an on-line video operator's manual sanctioned by Elecraft, with logical menu to find the how-to, exactly, the function you want being done.I'm not thinking so much where is the Power Switch, but more like how to determine which thought process to use with the K4/K4D/K4HD to best accomplish commonly used procedures, and then how to get that done. Things like the display will be a bugger for awhile & the picture being worth a thousand words concept is magnified with concise video.Do-it-yourselfers on youtube will not get to the point & will be offering opinions which isn't helpful to the direct question. More, you'll have to use youtube's search engine to hopefully find what you're looking for, and then be subjected to advertisements before and during the presentation.It'll all be sorted out, I'm just thinking the official video how-to would be a real asset to many. Maybe not.73 & stay safe,GaryKA1J> I AM SURE...> When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be a> "flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos.? I am sure the how-to videos> will follow.> > 73, steve WB3LGC> > On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote:> > > > Gary makes a good suggestion.? ? TenTec use to have a CD? which> > accompanied the Orion 2.? ?This is going to be a pretty complex> > radio with all its features.? ?"Are we there yet?"Hang in there> > good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do> > not speak English.? ? That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my> > Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From:> > Gary Smith Date: 04/08/2020? 07:05? (GMT+00:00) To:> > elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would> > really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released> > on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to> > enter, a how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest.> > Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic &> > exactly to the point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily> > replayed till the idea is understood. That, or a good legend> > accompanying a long, more encompassing presentation with reference> > time marks to know where to search for a given demonstration.We all> > learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my belt, but in> > my old age I still say I learn best by observing a demonstration> > than otherwise.But that's just> > me.73,GaryKA1J____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From dick93117 at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 06:06:33 2020 From: dick93117 at gmail.com (RICHARD Martin) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 03:06:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: A how to video would be a very nice feature, but we must remember the cost of developing such a thing when our friends at Elecraft have to be in desperate need of cash. Due to the Government restrictions their cash flow has essentially stopped because they cannot efficiently manufacture and ship products. Thru most of my professional life, I have been responsible for the conception, prototyping, and manufacture of large scientific instruments ($100K to $5M). The cost of the manuals/documentation was typically equal to the development cost of the product. Dick KN6AA On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 00:23 turnbull wrote: > > Gary, This would indeed be an asset. Wonder how much effort this would > take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > -------- Original message --------From: Gary Smith Date: > 05/08/2020 03:07 (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: > [Elecraft] K4 training Yes, That's the current way of things. What I > suggest would be more like an on-line video operator's manual sanctioned by > Elecraft, with logical menu to find the how-to, exactly, the function you > want being done.I'm not thinking so much where is the Power Switch, but > more like how to determine which thought process to use with the > K4/K4D/K4HD to best accomplish commonly used procedures, and then how to > get that done. Things like the display will be a bugger for awhile & the > picture being worth a thousand words concept is magnified with concise > video.Do-it-yourselfers on youtube will not get to the point & will be > offering opinions which isn't helpful to the direct question. More, you'll > have to use youtube's search engine to hopefully find what you're looking > for, and then be subjected to advertisements before and during the > presentation.It'll all be sorted out, I'm just thinking the official video > how-to would be a real asset to many. Maybe not.73 & stay safe,GaryKA1J> I > AM SURE...> When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be > a> "flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos. I am sure the how-to videos> will > follow.> > 73, steve WB3LGC> > On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote:> > > > > Gary makes a good suggestion. TenTec use to have a CD which> > > accompanied the Orion 2. This is going to be a pretty complex> > radio > with all its features. "Are we there yet?"Hang in there> > good ship > Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do> > not speak > English. That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my> > Samsung Galaxy > smartphone. -------- Original message --------From:> > Gary Smith < > Gary at ka1j.com> Date: 04/08/2020 07:05 (GMT+00:00) To:> > > elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would> > > really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released> > on > the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to> > enter, a > how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest.> > Either a > bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic &> > exactly to the > point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily> > replayed till the > idea is understood. That, or a good legend> > accompanying a long, more > encompassing presentation with reference> > time marks to know where to > search for a given demonstration.We all> > learn differently, I have 11 > years of college under my belt, but in> > my old age I still say I learn > best by observing a demonstration> > than otherwise.But that's just> > > me.73,GaryKA1J____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Elecraft > mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis > list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dick93117 at gmail.com From n4zr at comcast.net Wed Aug 5 07:29:46 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 07:29:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working In-Reply-To: <25553193.77587.1596593353612@mail.yahoo.com> References: <25553193.77587.1596593353612.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <25553193.77587.1596593353612@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2b74f382-5bcd-1c0c-f8b9-807e60782b3a@comcast.net> But first, I'd suggest making very sure that the virtual USB port that the KPA-1500 is opening and the one that your computer expects are the same. Windows 10 is notorious for changing port assignments willy-nilly when you do something as simple as? plugging in or unplugging a USB cable. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 8/4/2020 10:09 PM, Cody C via Elecraft wrote: > My KPA just came back for the same issue. Elecraft replaced the USB protection diode pack. Hope this helps > > 73 Cody KC2LSD > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net From john at kk9a.com Wed Aug 5 08:00:50 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:00:50 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List Message-ID: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan adapter etc. The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below. John KK9A N4ZR wrote: Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers. They don 't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3. 73, Pete N4ZR From markmusick at outlook.com Wed Aug 5 08:30:31 2020 From: markmusick at outlook.com (Mark Musick) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 12:30:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I too have had conversations with Madelyn about upgrades. I did order the KXV3B and it is on the way. I put my name on the list for the KIO3B and K3SYNA. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of N4ZR Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 21:48 To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.? They don 't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3. -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to markmusick at outlook.com From kilo4tmc at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 08:42:41 2020 From: kilo4tmc at gmail.com (Henry Pollock - K4TMC) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:42:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List In-Reply-To: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> References: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> Message-ID: The list at that link does not include filters. So what does one do if they want a filter? 73, Henry - K4TMC On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:03 AM wrote: > > I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in > Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of > K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan > adapter etc. The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only > recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a > long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so > ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received > the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants > K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below. > > John KK9A > > > N4ZR wrote: > > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my > mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient > interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers. They don 't > define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 > KIO3B update kit, go to > > > > and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent > updates for the K3. > > > 73, Pete N4ZR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kilo4tmc at gmail.com > From ed at w0yk.com Wed Aug 5 08:48:29 2020 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed W0YK) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 05:48:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The link below is broken.? ?Should be:https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form73,Ed W0YK -------- Original message --------From: N4ZR Date: 8/4/20 14:47 (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.? They don 't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3.-- 73, Pete N4ZRCheck out the Reverse Beacon Networkat , nowspotting RTTY activity worldwide.For spots, please use your favorite"retail" DX cluster.______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to ed at w0yk.com From john at kk9a.com Wed Aug 5 09:16:53 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 09:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List In-Reply-To: References: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> Message-ID: Inrad made the 8-pole filters https://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140 and they should still be available. I am not sure where the 5 and 6 pole filters were made. John KK9A Sent via the Samsung Galaxy 7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone. On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:42 AM Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: > The list at that link does not include filters. So what does one do if > they want a filter? > > 73, > Henry - K4TMC > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:03 AM wrote: > >> >> I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in >> Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of >> K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan >> adapter etc. The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only >> recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a >> long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so >> ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received >> the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants >> K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below. >> >> John KK9A >> >> >> N4ZR wrote: >> >> Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] >> I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my >> mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient >> interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers. They don 't >> define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 >> KIO3B update kit, go to >> >> >> >> and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent >> updates for the K3. >> >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kilo4tmc at gmail.com >> > From bw396ss at yahoo.com Wed Aug 5 09:33:21 2020 From: bw396ss at yahoo.com (bw396ss at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:33:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B update kit, References: <96540A7C-7DF0-4B28-B0B9-B7B3CB1F279D.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96540A7C-7DF0-4B28-B0B9-B7B3CB1F279D@yahoo.com> I was assured? in an email back in June that the KIO3B kits will be available as soon as things return to ?normal? and parts are available. Anyone interested should be asked to be placed o the waiting list. Thanks, Bill Sent from my iPhone From clark.macaulay at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 11:14:45 2020 From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (Clark Macaulay) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:14:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: <20200805124927.2D7BF149B47C@mail.qsl.net> References: <20200805124927.2D7BF149B47C@mail.qsl.net> Message-ID: Ed, Part of your name got embedded into the url--something I've done from time to time. This should work. https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form Clark, WU4B On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:49 AM Ed W0YK wrote: > > The link below is broken. Should be: > https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form73,Ed W0YK > -------- Original message --------From: N4ZR Date: > 8/4/20 14:47 (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft List > Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales > that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit > unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their > suppliers. They don 't define what that means, but if you have any > interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to < > https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options-interest-form> and tell them so > - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3.-- > 73, Pete N4ZRCheck out the Reverse Beacon Networkat < > http://reversebeacon.net>, nowspotting RTTY activity worldwide.For spots, > please use your favorite"retail" DX > cluster.______________________________________________________________Elecraft > mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis > list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to ed at w0yk.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macaulay at gmail.com -- 73, Clark, WU4B Little Pistol With Wires QRPARCI #10815 SKCC #3892 NAQCC #5055 CWOPS #1869 Collins Collectors #AC90-12432 Southeastern DX Club North Georgia QRP Club *"It is vain to do with more what can be done with less."* *Attributed to *William of Occam (1288 AD - 1348 AD) From Lyn at LNAINC.com Wed Aug 5 11:16:33 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 10:16:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express In-Reply-To: <586be944-27d5-aaa2-e241-b0a62b2ce265@foothill.net> References: <05d201d5fbff$e3d7ca60$ab875f20$@verizon.net> <1596376745020-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <0aa001d668fe$67433d10$35c9b730$@LNAINC.com> <1596489466230-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <0e6501d66a56$58771820$09654860$@LNAINC.com> <586be944-27d5-aaa2-e241-b0a62b2ce265@foothill.net> Message-ID: <014301d66b3b$6796d8f0$36c48ad0$@LNAINC.com> Fred - As I mentioned, without going into great detail, training IS required. FEMA courses 100, 200, 700 and 800 are the normal minimum, with others added. ARRL EC-001 is also basic. SATERN (Salvation Army) courses vary by region, but include Safe From Harm, and Advanced Group Crisis Intervention. In addition, message handling (written) is routinely taught. Familiarity with ICS as well as Red Cross, SATERN and various ARRL and State forms is also needed and practiced. Again, I agree with what you're saying. The P2P group offers opportunities for newbies to find an Elmer to help guide them thru the process. While any event involvement will likely be local, there are times that P2P "local" contacts may be facilitated by a station located elsewhere, so the capability to relay messages is also important. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 2:05 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express "I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, it is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others on local, regional and national levels." Well ... For about 8 years, I coordinated the amateur communications for the Western States Endurance Run [100 miles, Squaw Valley CA to Auburn CA via the historic Western States Trail] and the Tevis Cup endurance ride on roughly the same course. Both events draw entrants from around the world. Required about 100-120 hams and maybe an equal number of non-licensed family/friends with FRS radios around each of the aid stations. Primary mission was safety and evacuation, often coordinating directly with medical airlift aircraft, secondary mission was logistics. These are large, grueling events with multiple hundreds of staff at 20+ aid stations. Runners and horses will face ~18,000 ft of elevation gain, ~22,000 feet of descent, often run on snow and ice near the summit, in 110 degree heat in the lower canyons, and a 24 hour deadline. Really not unlike a major disaster. One thing we proved conclusively, without exception, is that possession of an amateur radio license does not automatically make one a competent radio operator when the mission is anything but a rag chew. We had to establish training sessions on standardized phraseology, message handling, details of the event, procedures, how the chain of command worked, and the like. Prior to the events, we coupled up trail marking and clearing operations into exercises. It is way more work and there are way more details to being truly effective that most believed, and many who started the training did not finish. We always paired a new "training graduate" with a seasoned operator having found that even with the training program, a rookie operator alone at a station sometimes was less effective and created more problems than no operator at all. Amateur missions such as these are inherently local. It is virtually impossible to show up somewhere with a radio and be effective unless the amateurs know the served agency and its mission well, are well known to the served agency, have a practiced plan and procedures, and are effective and professional communicators. [See first sentence in 4th paragraph above]. If it seems I'm sort of camping with James, K8JHR, it's because, even though I don't own a gun right now, I am. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/4/2020 4:56 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > I don't argue with the responders position, but have found that the > participation of hams in emergency communications is not only welcomed, it > is encouraged by groups like FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others on > local, regional and national levels. Many of us have completed the required > FEMA training and participate in exercises regularly through our local > organizations (ARES, etc.). > > The voluntary participation by Hams in the case of natural disasters, for > example, is well documented. Many of us have taken it seriously enough to > actually get the required training offered to us by FEMA, ARRL, etc. Groups > such as SATERN and the Red Cross hold periodic Simulated Emergency Tests > with the active participation of ham radio groups. > > Right now, hams in the South Carolina area are actively participating in > emergency communications related to Hurricane Isaias. Are they "riding high > and saving the day" ? Probably not, but they are contributing their skills > and facilities in an effort to serve the public need. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JHRichards > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:18 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on K3S and Winlink Express > > a nationwide group to become proficient in handling P2P message > traffic in the case of a "grid down" emergency (no internet, no cells, no > repeaters, no power). > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > While that is a lovely gesture, it is neither realistic nor practicable. > Your traffic handler and I have radios, but my in laws and relations do not. > > Moreover, when it gets THAT bad, I will NOT be on my radio. Instead, I > will grab a gun and hunker down to protect my homestead and loved ones from > looters. And, I expect your traffic handlers to do the same. If they are > situated within the disaster area, they will be busy enough looking after > their own, and if they are located outside the area, they are not likely to > drive hundreds of miles in to hand-deliver messages of good tidings to my > wife's disconnected family 200 miles away. Besides, FEMA and most other > official agencies are not going to be embarrassed by another communications > conundrum "when all else fails." Even the ARRL has backed away from that > draconian position. At a recent Dayton Hamvention, FEMA made it abundantly > clear the notion of ham operators riding high and saving the day are long > gone. It clearly indicated ops must be FEMA trained and certified, and it > will supply the radios. It gave an example where the only way local ham > operators were involved in an actual emergency was to identify the highest > hill in the area to put a temporary repeater. Thank you, good night, we > will take it from here. Just MY take. K8JHR > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k6dgw at foothill.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com From n4zr at comcast.net Wed Aug 5 11:19:09 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:19:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List In-Reply-To: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> References: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> Message-ID: <161ad8d7-1ccb-e5e4-1133-772e6fd38d1d@comcast.net> Good point, John.? I don't envy Elecraft all their supply chain problems, but it does seem a little soon to be dropping any or all of those items. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > > I have no interest in a KIO3B but I happened to click on the link in > Pete's post and saw that this is an interest list for a number of > K3/K3S options such as the DVR, sub receiver, antenna tuner, pan > adapter etc.? The K3 line is a very popular line and the K3S was only > recently discontinued. I hope that this K line will be around for a > long time and unlike Windows 7, support will continue! A month or so > ago I purchased antenna tuners for my K3S's and I may have received > the last ones. I changed the email subject and I urge anyone who wants > K3/K3S accessories to click on the link below. > > John KK9A > > > N4ZR wrote: > > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my > mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient > interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers.? They don 't > define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 > KIO3B update kit, go to > > > > and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent > updates for the K3. > > > 73, Pete N4ZR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net From Lyn at LNAINC.com Wed Aug 5 11:38:36 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 10:38:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] USB Ports Not Working Message-ID: <014401d66b3e$7c653440$752f9cc0$@LNAINC.com> Have you ever suddenly found that your rig will not transmit in any of the digital modes, and suspect that your computer's audio ports have been reset by an automatic Windows 10 update?? (If you say "no" you better be smiling ...). A few years back, Microsoft added a security feature to disallow apps from accessing your system's microphone without permission (so those sneaky hackers could not listen in on you).? Good to be safe ... but the change created this problem in the process. In Windows 10 -> Settings -> Privacy -> Microphone make sure?that both "Allow apps to access your microphone" and "Allow desktop apps to access your microphone" are turned ON. It seems that some updates reset this to the default "Off" setting.? Now you know. 73 Lyn, W0LEN From pincon at erols.com Wed Aug 5 08:11:51 2020 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:11:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001e01d66b21$9da0eb30$d8e2c190$@erols.com> What might be an acceptable alternative is to utilize the potential abilities of the some of the owners. Many in this group have been responsible for writing, or at least editing, tech manuals for various pieces of high level equipment. This wouldn't necessarily be to produce a full start-to-finish course in K4 operation, but a collection of user videos with hints & ideas etc. (NOT however, ones showing the opening of the box, resulting in simple "look-at-my-new-toy" videos!). I would volunteer to put all these on a single DVD, once they were approved by the high-command with the obvious dis-claimer statement. Of course, I'll need a K4 to ah,,,,, verify the suggested items, eh? Just kidding (maybe?). 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of turnbull Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2020 3:21 AM To: Gary at ka1j.com; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 training Gary, This would indeed be an asset. Wonder how much effort this would take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. From ghyoungman at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 13:40:46 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 13:40:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <001e01d66b21$9da0eb30$d8e2c190$@erols.com> References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> <001e01d66b21$9da0eb30$d8e2c190$@erols.com> Message-ID: It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to effectively use a radio, then that?s a problem ? either with the radio?s owner (and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio. Elecraft will no doubt release some user tips for certain aspects of operation, just like they did for the K3 and other radios. Many questions can be answered on the list, either by field testers, Elecraft, or others that get their hands on one before you do, like they always have been. It isn?t a bad idea to collect these in a single location on the Elecraft website for reference, maybe organized by topic, provided that user submissions are vetted by Elecraft before they become gospel. Oh, and none of the computers in my house have DVD drives any longer. My grandkids have no clue what a CD/DVD even is. Which is why I?d suggest a web reference as a more universal option :-) Grant NQ5T > On Aug 5, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Charlie T wrote: > > What might be an acceptable alternative is to utilize the potential abilities of the some of the owners. Many in this group have been responsible for writing, or at least editing, tech manuals for various pieces of high level equipment. This wouldn't necessarily be to produce a full start-to-finish course in K4 operation, but a collection of user videos with hints & ideas etc. (NOT however, ones showing the opening of the box, resulting in simple "look-at-my-new-toy" videos!). > > I would volunteer to put all these on a single DVD, once they were approved by the high-command with the obvious dis-claimer statement. > Of course, I'll need a K4 to ah,,,,, verify the suggested items, eh? Just kidding (maybe?). > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > From bill at wjschmidt.com Wed Aug 5 13:49:14 2020 From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 12:49:14 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09bc01d66b50$bc06b440$34141cc0$@wjschmidt.com> I'm not as constrained as they are with respect to buying parts (surplus sources, etc.). I'd settle for a board to build my own in the event of a "no go".... but of course I know that won't happen. Dr. William J. Schmidt email: bill at wjschmidt.com -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N4ZR Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 4:48 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list I just heard from Elecraft Sales that they are not going to fill my mid-June order for the KIO3B update kit unless they get sufficient interest to get "reasonable" prices from their suppliers. They don 't define what that means, but if you have any interest at all in the K3 KIO3B update kit, go to and tell them so - otherwise they may never restock these excellent updates for the K3. -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bill at wjschmidt.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 5 14:11:18 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:11:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List In-Reply-To: References: <20200805070050.Horde.r7mblR4GjqnxvgdrJIUe_rm@www11.qth.com> Message-ID: <121eaf89-9fd9-74c6-74bb-67f1ccc7a4f3@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/5/2020 6:16 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > Inrad made the 8-pole filtershttps://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140 and > they should still be available. It's my understanding that the spec is tighter for the filters they supply to Elecraft than for their general production. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 5 14:22:06 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:22:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> <001e01d66b21$9da0eb30$d8e2c190$@erols.com> Message-ID: <153b8cdc-0e12-c580-5a4d-d93f9013c36f@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/5/2020 10:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: > It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to effectively use a radio, then that?s a problem ? either with the radio?s owner (and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio. I agree, but with this caveat. Each radio mfr has developed their user interface over decades, and each is different from the other to varying degrees. In this century, I've owned Ten Tec, Kenwood, ICOM, and Yaesu. Before that, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, Heathkit, Drake, and WII surplus gear. My first Elecraft rig was a K2, bought used in 2003, and I upgraded to a K3 in 2008. User interface between those Elecraft radios, and then to the KX3, has maintained the same logic. In every case, RTFM, combined with understanding how radios work, has been all I've needed. 73, Jim K9YC From john at kk9a.com Wed Aug 5 14:31:45 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:31:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List Message-ID: <20200805133145.Horde.vhP_ye3NO0k5-07VcT8Oq-L@www11.qth.com> Elecraft screens each Inrad filter that they sell but few are rejected: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2017-June/246835.html John KK9A Jim Brown K9YC wrote On 8/5/2020 6:16 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > Inrad made the 8-pole filtershttps://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140 and > they should still be available. It's my understanding that the spec is tighter for the filters they supply to Elecraft than for their general production. 73, Jim K9YC From ghyoungman at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 15:39:23 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:39:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <153b8cdc-0e12-c580-5a4d-d93f9013c36f@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> <001e01d66b21$9da0eb30$d8e2c190$@erols.com> <153b8cdc-0e12-c580-5a4d-d93f9013c36f@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <00EB5FDF-63A8-45A2-A7D1-09E854342F6A@gmail.com> We agree. But the transition from one essentially modern radio to another, is still mostly a matter of figuring out what each control does, where it is, how to read the display, and where to connect the antenna. The exception I?d make is that if you gave a recently minted ham (or not) a Globe Champion 300 or even a Globe Scout he?d likely be completely mystified, and wonder where the RS-232 interface and keyer speed control was. THAT might take some training videos, or at least an elmer :-) Grant NQ5T > On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 8/5/2020 10:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: >> It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to effectively use a radio, then that?s a problem ? either with the radio?s owner (and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio. > > I agree, but with this caveat. Each radio mfr has developed their user interface over decades, and each is different from the other to varying degrees. In this century, I've owned Ten Tec, Kenwood, ICOM, and Yaesu. Before that, Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, Heathkit, Drake, and WII surplus gear. > > My first Elecraft rig was a K2, bought used in 2003, and I upgraded to a K3 in 2008. User interface between those Elecraft radios, and then to the KX3, has maintained the same logic. In every case, RTFM, combined with understanding how radios work, has been all I've needed. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ From alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 5 16:12:31 2020 From: alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com (Alan Geller) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 13:12:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Using a K42 Keyer with a K3/K3S References: <818B2B39-0A8C-405F-AF4E-B8A8A486F577.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <818B2B39-0A8C-405F-AF4E-B8A8A486F577@yahoo.com> Yes, I had a K42 kit laying about and i thought I might finally finish it and see how it worked with my K3 (with most of the S upgrades) I was easily able to fix up the cables for reading code but I have had a heck of a time matching up settings and keying cable connections so I can play around with the external keyer functionality of this little ?swiss army knife keyer box? I have Fred Cady?s third edition(Bless him) and he tries to give info in para 4 of page 60 but it is somewhat confusing. There is lots of info following, all the way to pp 84 but it is all oriented to getting a computer married to the K3 for digital modes. The key out mini plug from the K42 uses the three lines as tip: key middle: PTT and the body ground. They say that "the PTT output is used primarily in HSCW mode or to key an amplifier or antenna relay? and the K3 manual indicates that anything like a WinKey interface requires that PTT_KEY should be OFF - OFF. So, it would seem that I could ignore the center conductor entirely. But?my K3 sits quietly and challenges me to to key it externally disregarding all my options. Any suggestions appreciated. Alan/K6ADG From kthreebo at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:12:45 2020 From: kthreebo at gmail.com (barry halterman) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:12:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 surplus stuff available Message-ID: Greetings. Since selling my Kx3, I have an interface cable set for Kx3/2 to a hardrock 50 amp. This has never been used and includes two cables and a pcb to db9 connector. Asking $25 which includes shipping. I also have a West mountain radio 15 watt power speaker for anything that needs extra audio umph. Asking $50 includes shipping. Thanks for reading Barry K3bo From lists at subich.com Wed Aug 5 16:33:06 2020 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:33:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Using a K42 Keyer with a K3/K3S In-Reply-To: <818B2B39-0A8C-405F-AF4E-B8A8A486F577@yahoo.com> References: <818B2B39-0A8C-405F-AF4E-B8A8A486F577.ref@yahoo.com> <818B2B39-0A8C-405F-AF4E-B8A8A486F577@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <837a6520-aaba-5777-7a50-28587cf7e1fa@subich.com> > The key out mini plug from the K42 uses the three lines as tip: key > middle: PTT and the body ground. Connect tip and sleeve to the "(straight) Key In" jack of your K3. If you elect to use it connect the ring and sleeve from the K1EL keyer to the PTT In (RCA) jack of your K3. If you do not use PTT from the K1EL keyer, you must turn on VOX in CW (semi break-in) or use QSK (full break-in). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2020-08-05 4:12 PM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote: > Yes, I had a K42 kit laying about and i thought I might finally finish it and see how it worked with my K3 (with most of the S upgrades) > I was easily able to fix up the cables for reading code but I have had a heck of a time matching up settings and keying cable connections > so I can play around with the external keyer functionality of this little ?swiss army knife keyer box? > I have Fred Cady?s third edition(Bless him) and he tries to give info in para 4 of page 60 but it is somewhat confusing. There is lots of info > following, all the way to pp 84 but it is all oriented to getting a computer married to the K3 for digital modes. > The key out mini plug from the K42 uses the three lines as tip: key middle: PTT and the body ground. They say that "the PTT output is > used primarily in HSCW mode or to key an amplifier or antenna relay? and the K3 manual indicates that anything like a WinKey > interface requires that PTT_KEY should be OFF - OFF. So, it would seem that I could ignore the center conductor entirely. > But?my K3 sits quietly and challenges me to to key it externally disregarding all my options. > > Any suggestions appreciated. Alan/K6ADG From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 5 16:35:01 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 13:35:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <00EB5FDF-63A8-45A2-A7D1-09E854342F6A@gmail.com> References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> <001e01d66b21$9da0eb30$d8e2c190$@erols.com> <153b8cdc-0e12-c580-5a4d-d93f9013c36f@audiosystemsgroup.com> <00EB5FDF-63A8-45A2-A7D1-09E854342F6A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2852beed-150e-e472-7efc-b341deb4c7d9@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/5/2020 12:39 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > We agree. But the transition from one essentially modern radio to another, is still mostly a matter of figuring out what each control does, where it is, how to read the display, and where to connect the antenna. The exception I?d make is that if you gave a recently minted ham (or not) a Globe Champion 300 or even a Globe Scout he?d likely be completely mystified, and wonder where the RS-232 interface and keyer speed control was. THAT might take some training videos, or at least an elmer Sure, but RTFM has always worked for me. Thanks for the reminder -- I also had a Globe Scout as a kid. :) 73, Jim K9YC From lists at subich.com Wed Aug 5 16:35:38 2020 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:35:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Accessory Interest List In-Reply-To: <20200805133145.Horde.vhP_ye3NO0k5-07VcT8Oq-L@www11.qth.com> References: <20200805133145.Horde.vhP_ye3NO0k5-07VcT8Oq-L@www11.qth.com> Message-ID: <3d736b15-6f13-0cad-a1a4-59bffe4594e4@subich.com> Wayne indicated the INRAD filters were tested for (passive) IMD (e.g. "low activity" crystals) at high signal levels. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2020-08-05 2:31 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > Elecraft screens each Inrad filter that they sell but few are rejected: > http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2017-June/246835.html > > John KK9A > > > Jim Brown K9YC wrote > > > On 8/5/2020 6:16 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: >> Inrad made the 8-pole filtershttps://www.inrad.net/home.php?cat=140? and >> they should still be available. > > It's my understanding that the spec is tighter for the filters they > supply to Elecraft than for their general production. > > 73, Jim K9YC > From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed Aug 5 16:50:44 2020 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 12:50:44 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list Message-ID: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide over the standard board? My K3, SN4340 dates from 2010 so assume it has a KIO3 board (not sure if A or B version). Trying to determine if I want/need the upgrade. I did add EXREF, TCXO3, upgraded both Synth boards and Gen Coverage filter to cover 475-KHz (630m) band. I have the subRx installed. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From hidron at hotmail.com Wed Aug 5 17:00:12 2020 From: hidron at hotmail.com (John Hiatt) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 21:00:12 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> References: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: The late Fred Cady wrote a few notes about the upgrade under section 1.5.2 here http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3/should-i-update-my-k3-with-k3s-parts There is also an FAQ about the upgrade https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO3BUPGD-FAQ%20rev%20A.pdf John, KC7DRI ________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Edward R Cole Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:50 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide over the standard board? My K3, SN4340 dates from 2010 so assume it has a KIO3 board (not sure if A or B version). Trying to determine if I want/need the upgrade. I did add EXREF, TCXO3, upgraded both Synth boards and Gen Coverage filter to cover 475-KHz (630m) band. I have the subRx installed. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 5 17:03:52 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 14:03:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> References: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <5466708a-fc33-19be-8ceb-53b6b3e5d4f8@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/5/2020 1:50 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide over > the standard board? USB interface for both control and audio. Don't know if they fixed the Pin One Problems that exist in the orginal. 73, Jim K9YC From a.durbin at msn.com Wed Aug 5 20:12:53 2020 From: a.durbin at msn.com (Andy Durbin) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 00:12:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training Message-ID: I transitioned, with a 40 year gap, from an AR88D and home brew CW/AM transmitter with a TT11 final to an TS-590S. No problem at all reading the manual and getting it working. I even found several firmware defects in the first few months of ownership. I recognize that not everyone has an engineering background and it's harder for some than others. When I was running the local club's extra and general courses I quickly learned the huge range of experience and ability in the amateur radio world. I also wondered how some of the students had passed the technician exam. I'd far rather have a good searchable pdf manual than a training video. Don't count my vote though as I have no plans to buy a K4. Andy, k3wyc From n7cqr at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 20:14:16 2020 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 17:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New antenna works! In-Reply-To: <1596531641035-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1596531641035-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <50047062-8F19-40E3-AFB1-9F095B078500@arrl.net> Interesting subject. The two big X factors in success that are seldom mentioned are propagation and most importantly-operating skills. The other day I set out for a short SOTA activation wanting to set up a portable 2 element vertical beam developed by JP1QEC. I?ve used it with good results on 20M as compared to my typical end fed. Anyway-I forgot the poles which are essential to properly erect it,so what to do? I usually pack a variety of small portable wire antennas ,so not wanting to waste the outing I tossed a wire into a fairly low tree branch. My intended band 20 was packed with contesters fun the NAQP and furthermore the answer wouldn?t load below 3:1 despite extra radials Well-let?s try 30 and 40 just because. It turned out 30 was open and I managed 3 ?S2S? (summit to summit) contacts,and one on 40. Probably NVIS,but Antenna strength was better than I expected-I worked my 4 for a valid activation and a few more beside. Definitely less than optimal antenna but sometimes you just need to get out and operate. As I tell my CW students-get on and operate with what you?ve got. Dan Presley 503-701-3871 danpresley at me. com N7CQR at arrl.net > On Aug 4, 2020, at 02:08, K8TE wrote: > > ?Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas instantly which I assume > from his description. Most antenna anecdotes state something like "It works > much better than...I had up previously. But, both antennas aren't up and in > use at the same time. > > My good friend Alan, K0BG, puts it very well. "WORKs is an acronym which > means WithOut Real Knowledge." Why? Because the performance assertions are > not comparative like one gets when using two WSPRLit transmitters on two > antennas at the same time over time. Those data will show which antenna > performs better and how consistently better one antenna is than the other. > In every case when I compare antennas, they always out-perform one or two > others at some point in time. But, one of the three performs better on > certain bands at certain times, most, but not all of the time. > > This past Saturday, I frequently noted one dipole out-performed the other on > a specific station at a specific time, regardless of the band (40m and 20m). > I had callers answer my CQ's that I could not here on the other dipole and > that was true for both dipoles most of the time. They would "change places" > at different times for the same paths. Being able to instantly switch > between antennas (K3 with internal ATU) helped me make more contacts than if > I had just one of those dipoles, both about the same height, but at nearly > right angles to each other. When I had a vertical in the air, it would > sometimes out-perform both dipoles over the same paths. > > Every antenna "WORKS", even a dummy load with imperfect coax. Some antennas > generally out-perform others. Don't tell me yours works better than mine > without scientific proof, not anecdotes. W8JI has done a lot of antenna > modeling and on-the-air comparisons in making assertions about antennas' > performance. I recently read his statement about end-fed wires being a cult > today. He goes on to explain their failings don't appear when using QRP and > with no other antenna available for comparisons. > > As N0AX wrote, "The best antennas is the one that is up in the air." or > similar words. He also wrote the half wave dipole is simple and it works > well and makes the best first choice. I would add, the higher the better > until it's a half wavelength high. K9YC has done modeling that points this > out and debunks most of the NVIS myths that abound in which users state we > need to lower our antennas for NVIS. > > I use end-fed wires when appropriate--SOTA, POTA, and on county lines were > simplicity and rapid deployment matter more than RFI, most of which I can > mitigate or ignore. I use dipoles at home and most are resonant. I also > use WSPRLite to get scientific performance data before I assert they WORK or > which one is better. As I wrote above, I will keep both those dipoles > because they both out-perform the other at times. As my antenna farm grows, > one dipole will remain as my measurement "standard" so I can truly say my > new antenna (nothing short and shiny) out-performs my dipole. And yes, > neither is perfect so I use a tuner when necessary on certain > bands/frequencies. > > 73, Bill, K8TE > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7cqr at arrl.net From frantz at pwpconsult.com Wed Aug 5 22:39:37 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 22:39:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working In-Reply-To: <2b74f382-5bcd-1c0c-f8b9-807e60782b3a@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 8/5/20 at 7:29 AM, n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) wrote: >But first, I'd suggest making very sure that the virtual USB >port that the KPA-1500 is opening and the one that your >computer expects are the same. Windows 10 is notorious for >changing port assignments willy-nilly when you do something as >simple as? plugging in or unplugging a USB cable. I've been wondering why I don't experience this problem with my MacOS system. After looking carefully at what it saves about a USB connection, I discovered that it was recording the serial number of the FDTI interface chip. As a result, it doesn't matter which hub I plug the K3(upgraded to S) or the other USB<-->RS232 adapters I use, they are connected to the correct program. I wonder what Linux does? If it doesn't handle reconnecting USB<-->RS232 well, a Linux hacker could train it to follow Apple's lead. 73 Bill AE6JV ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | using a perimeter defense is a | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Peterborough, NH 03458 From gordon.lapoint at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 07:08:30 2020 From: gordon.lapoint at gmail.com (Gordon LaPoint) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 07:08:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75e370b4-98fe-80c8-f3a4-b558dc762a4d@gmail.com> I do have a K4 on order, and I agree with Andy, I'd much rather have a searchable pdf manual than a video!!! Thanks Elecraft for the fine radios that I now own, and the coming K4! Gordon - N1MGO On 8/5/2020 20:12 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: > I transitioned, with a 40 year gap, from an AR88D and home brew CW/AM transmitter with a TT11 final to an TS-590S. No problem at all reading the manual and getting it working. I even found several firmware defects in the first few months of ownership. I recognize that not everyone has an engineering background and it's harder for some than others. When I was running the local club's extra and general courses I quickly learned the huge range of experience and ability in the amateur radio world. I also wondered how some of the students had passed the technician exam. > > I'd far rather have a good searchable pdf manual than a training video. Don't count my vote though as I have no plans to buy a K4. > > Andy, k3wyc > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com From k4pxjoe at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 10:04:22 2020 From: k4pxjoe at gmail.com (K4PX K4PX) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:04:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Cable for K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA Message-ID: Anybody got a spare cable to run from K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA they would like to part with? 73, Joe From backhoeken at yahoo.com Thu Aug 6 11:10:20 2020 From: backhoeken at yahoo.com (Ken B) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <75e370b4-98fe-80c8-f3a4-b558dc762a4d@gmail.com> References: <75e370b4-98fe-80c8-f3a4-b558dc762a4d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <477863621.721619.1596726620960@mail.yahoo.com> I as well have a K4 on deposit and think a "get it working" 5-10 page instruction would be really nice, as well as a searchable complete manual. Guessing youtube videos will come with time just as it did on the K3.? Can hardly wait for the K4 - maybe a surprise under the tree.? Thank you Ken?WB8PKK? On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 07:12:14 AM EDT, Gordon LaPoint wrote: I do have a K4 on order, and I agree with Andy, I'd much rather have a searchable pdf manual than a video!!! Thanks Elecraft for the fine radios that I now own, and the coming K4! Gordon - N1MGO On 8/5/2020 20:12 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: > I transitioned, with a 40 year gap, from an AR88D and home brew CW/AM transmitter with a TT11 final to an TS-590S.? No problem at all reading the manual and getting it working.? I even found several firmware defects in the first few months of ownership.? ? I recognize that not everyone has an engineering background and it's harder for some than others.? When I was running the local club's extra and general courses I quickly learned the huge range of experience and ability in the amateur radio world.? I also wondered how some of the students had passed the technician exam. > > I'd far rather have a good searchable pdf manual than a training video.? Don't count my vote though as I have no plans to buy a K4. > > Andy, k3wyc > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to backhoeken at yahoo.com From ns9i at bayland.net Thu Aug 6 13:29:55 2020 From: ns9i at bayland.net (NS9I WI) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:29:55 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3 w/accessories In-Reply-To: <5466708a-fc33-19be-8ceb-53b6b3e5d4f8@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> <5466708a-fc33-19be-8ceb-53b6b3e5d4f8@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: S/N #3095 (Mfd May 23, 2009) 1. KRX3 HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUBRECEIVER 2. KAT3 100-WATT AUTOMATIC ANTENNA TUNER 3. KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kits USB Cable to computer, 6-12M Pre-amp 4. KSYN3A SYNTHESIZERS Upgrade including one for the sub-rcvr 5. KPA3? Internal 100 W Upgrade 6. Standard 2.7 kHz 5 pole filter in Main and Sub 7. KFL3A-250 250 Hz, 8-pole in Main 8. KFL3A-400 400HZ 8-POLE in Main 9. INRAD 700 Hz 8-POLE in Main 10. MH-4 Hand Mike Been back to Elecraft a couple of times, all the available updates have been done and most recently in fall of 2019, the latest LPA board was installed, Gold Pins;?? 6 pins for 12V, KPA3 to KPAIO3 Riser, and Front Panel, P30 and P35 Includes: DC cable to power strip (powerpole connectors) Original Box - Elecraft K3S & P3 by Fred Cady (Design, Configuration, and Operation) book and the original manual. Asking $2,500 (OBO), plus shipping from NE Wisconsin. Paypal or USPS M.O. 73 Dwight NS9I From eckerpw at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 14:21:31 2020 From: eckerpw at gmail.com (Paul Ecker) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 14:21:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software question Message-ID: I have installed the KAT500 software on both my main shack PC and on to a Win10 Notebook I use for remote ops. I want to be able to change antennas on the KAT 500 from the Notebook PC. So I start the Remote software on the shack PC, configure the Host data and then connect which it does. Then start the software on the remote notebook. I fill in the shack pc 1p address and port and then it connects. So thought I was doing ok, but not really. I can change antennas using the KAT500 remote software on the main pc but not the notebook, so I kind have it connected but backwards. So can anyone help? What is the correct procedure for setting this up or sequence to be able to control the KAT from my remote notebook? Should the shack pc that the KAT 500 is connected to be the host? 73 Paul w2eck From rshubbard at me.com Thu Aug 6 14:30:59 2020 From: rshubbard at me.com (richard hubbard) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 19:30:59 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] XV144 Transverter and K2 Message-ID: Hello, I have recently bought a XV144 transverter, which was used on another non Elecraft Rig. I followed the setup for use wit a KS however did not notice that thee was a soldered jumper on J7. Looking further into the manual I see that using the K2 wit the Transverter J7 shorted can cause damage. I currently have no output from the transverter. Does anyon know what to look for. Cheers, Richard Hubbard (M0OIO) From eckerpw at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 14:34:47 2020 From: eckerpw at gmail.com (Paul Ecker) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 14:34:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Problem solved. I had not set up a password in the for the host on the main pc copy of the remote software and then had not entered a password in the remote notebook copy of the software. Once I did that I am now able to control the KAT500 from the remote notebook computer. 73 Paul w2eck On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 2:21 PM Paul Ecker wrote: > I have installed the KAT500 software on both my main shack PC and on to > a Win10 Notebook I use for remote ops. I want to be able to change antennas > on the KAT 500 from the Notebook PC. So I start the Remote software on the > shack PC, configure the Host data and then connect which it does. Then > start the software on the remote notebook. I fill in the shack pc 1p > address and port and then it connects. So thought I was doing ok, but not > really. I can change antennas using the KAT500 remote software on the main > pc but not the notebook, so I kind have it connected but backwards. > > So can anyone help? What is the correct procedure for setting this up or > sequence to be able to control the KAT from my remote notebook? Should the > shack pc that the KAT 500 is connected to be the host? > > > > 73 Paul w2eck > From exbpi at comcast.net Thu Aug 6 15:26:08 2020 From: exbpi at comcast.net (exbpi at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:26:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Items F/S Message-ID: <001f01d66c27$70083a00$5018ae00$@comcast.net> I have the following items for the K2 and K3 radios for sale: 1. KIO2 Aux I/O Module for K2, unbuilt in original package. $60 shipped CONUS 2. Same as item 1, KIO2 Aux I/O Module for K2, unbuilt in original package. $60 shipped CONUS 3. KIO3 I/O Module for the K3 transceiver. This item is used and was replaced by the KIO3B upgrade. The KIO3 module was working fine when replaced by the KIO3B. $100 shipped CONUS 4. VFO A Main and VFO B Sub tuning knobs for the K3 transceiver. These knobs are in as-new condition and were replaced by custom knobs produced by 73CNC (https://www.dtsohio.com/73cnc/elecraft.html). $40 for both knobs shipped CONUS. 5. Blue felt dust cover for the K3. This is a custom cover made without sides which allows for easy covering and removal. The front face in embroidered with the Elecraft logo and Elecraft K3 in gold lettering. Picture is available upon request. $20 shipped CONUS Thank You Mike K7PI Mercer Island, WA From nelasat at yahoo.com Thu Aug 6 15:28:04 2020 From: nelasat at yahoo.com (Keith Ennis) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 19:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Digital Display Unit References: <2138223558.729515.1596742084806.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2138223558.729515.1596742084806@mail.yahoo.com> See what's going on inside your KXPA100 Amplifier! A great way to help protect your investment! . Newest Digital Display Unit for the KXPA100 displays these crucial reading: . 1. 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Limited "In Stock" units ready to order: http://www.kv5j.com Keith, KV5J From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Aug 6 15:48:47 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:48:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] XV144 Transverter and K2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a77bf38-fd51-8e32-2cb9-d58d31d1090c@embarqmail.com> Richard, The components that could be damaged with J7 in place are a few in the automatic power on circuits. Move the jumper to J8 and with the power switch in the non-activated position and the K2 to XV control cable in place, see if it turns on when you select the 144 MHz band. If so, no harm done. The failure to transmit is an entirely different problem. Check all the jumpers that relate to your IF interface (single cable or split RX/TX) and the jumpers for you chosen power level - then try it. If you still do not get any power output, tell us how you have the TX/RX cables configured, you drive power level, and what you are using to determine power output level (into a good VHF dummy load). Do you have an oscilloscope with a 10X probe that can work well at 28 MHz or an RF Probe? You will need one or the other to do much troubleshooting. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/6/2020 2:30 PM, richard hubbard via Elecraft wrote: > Hello, > > I have recently bought a XV144 transverter, which was used on another non Elecraft Rig. I followed the setup for use wit a KS however did not notice that thee was a soldered jumper on J7. Looking further into the manual I see that using the K2 wit the Transverter J7 shorted can cause damage. I currently have no output from the transverter. Does anyon know what to look for. From MJGillen at yahoo.com Thu Aug 6 16:45:51 2020 From: MJGillen at yahoo.com (Michael Gillen) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 13:45:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Rose's Covers & Cases References: <9738AE77-25B3-4FB7-8CCA-EDD5CD16BF6F.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9738AE77-25B3-4FB7-8CCA-EDD5CD16BF6F@yahoo.com> Does anyone know if Rose is still making the covers and cases for the Elecraft K3s? I?ve sent a couple of email with no response over the last two weeks. Hope she is OK. Thanks, Michael KK6RWK From kilo.mike at gte.net Thu Aug 6 17:12:02 2020 From: kilo.mike at gte.net (Kris Mraz) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 16:12:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 USB not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64b338c4-4ca5-ba64-99d4-83cb9f3cc213@gte.net> From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Thu Aug 6 17:19:46 2020 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 13:19:46 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B waiting list In-Reply-To: <7.1.0.9.2.20200805124351.07e14138@acsalaska.net> References: <7.1.0.9.2.20200805124351.07e14138@acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <202008062119.076LJm8Z000556@mail46c28.carrierzone.com> Thanks! Links provided by John, KC7DRI provided enough info for me decide I did not need the enhancements. I run two LP-Pan SDRs off the first IF's of my K3 main and sub-receivers in diversity mode to provide dual IQ streams to my computer so having an internal soundcard is no use. The USB/RS232 conversion cable works FB for keying my radio. Plus I have the PR6-10 which works well for 10m-6m and Digout-1 is handy function for connecting my remote 6m preamp for eme. I would buy a K4D except my K3 is working fine for my application as IF radio on 50-MHz thru 10-GHz. I promise my wife when I bought the K3 in 2010 it was the "last one". Yeah, she didn't really believe me. Getting to the age where investing in ham radio stuff is not really a good long-term investment. Bought a new F250 diesel truck and 30-foot 5th wheel trailer in 2016/2017 and made two trips with it. Can't leave AK this year due to corona-virus so will be second summer it has been parked. Beginning to doubt wisdom of that purchase. (roughly $70K). 73, Ed - KL7UW At 12:50 PM 8/5/2020, Edward R Cole wrote: >Lots about this option, but what exactly does the upgrade provide >over the standard board? > >My K3, SN4340 dates from 2010 so assume it has a KIO3 board (not >sure if A or B version). Trying to determine if I want/need the upgrade. > >I did add EXREF, TCXO3, upgraded both Synth boards and Gen Coverage >filter to cover 475-KHz (630m) band. I have the subRx installed. > >73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com >Dubus-NA Business mail: > dubususa at gmail.com 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 6 17:32:06 2020 From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 21:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Gang: While looking at Europe banging in on 20m FT8 this morning, I switched over to CW, cruised the band, then called CQ DX for a while.? An hour later, a Comcast (Xfinity) technician was knocking on the door (no mask) claiming I was knocking out service to 600 customers (he said he had traced it to my house) and was disconnecting us from the network.? During the entire time, my wife was using a VPN network connecting to her office, and I had the KPA1500 connected to the router so I could use FANticipator to keep the KPA1500 (The Big Dog) quiet and cool.? We had no service interruption. The router has a mix 31 toroid choke (9 turns) coming out of one port, on a cat6 shielded? cable (all cables brand new) then has another choke before going into a switch--one cable going into the XYL's room with her computer, another cable going through another choke then going into the shack.? We convinced the supervisor to rehook us up.?? All during my operating time, we had no service interruption at our house.? This was, however, the first time I had used the KPA1500 with the 20m beam wich sits directly above the house--I usually only let the Big Dog bark in wee hours of the morning on 40 and 80m. My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the bathroom.? The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the group.? Not letting the Big Dog bark during the daytime on 10/15/20m is not? a good solution.? In the meantime I'm on WSPR at 1w.? Your advice, please. 73, Eric WD6DBM From rocketnj at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 18:00:09 2020 From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 18:00:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <60A05D6A-089D-484A-B2E9-EADEBBAF4B17@gmail.com> I do not have any chokes or ferries and have the beam on a Glen Martin on the roof. Shack on second floor and cable modem & router in shack. Hard wired access point and gig switch in living room. No issues. I?d ask the cable tech to show you that you are causing the interruption. Coordinate with a friend to operate your station while you observe what the tech sees. Also, how far from your house is the cable node located? Maybe they have loose/poor connections in the network allowing ingress of RF? My cable company uses 28 MHz upstream channels which are a second harmonic of 20 meters but I would think RF levels at second harmonic should not affect anything. They probably saw your antenna and pointed the finger. Dave Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Aug 6, 2020, at 5:33 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > > ?Dear Gang: > While looking at Europe banging in on 20m FT8 this morning, I switched over to CW, cruised the band, then called CQ DX for a while. An hour later, a Comcast (Xfinity) technician was knocking on the door (no mask) claiming I was knocking out service to 600 customers (he said he had traced it to my house) and was disconnecting us from the network. During the entire time, my wife was using a VPN network connecting to her office, and I had the KPA1500 connected to the router so I could use FANticipator to keep the KPA1500 (The Big Dog) quiet and cool. We had no service interruption. > The router has a mix 31 toroid choke (9 turns) coming out of one port, on a cat6 shielded cable (all cables brand new) then has another choke before going into a switch--one cable going into the XYL's room with her computer, another cable going through another choke then going into the shack. We convinced the supervisor to rehook us up. > All during my operating time, we had no service interruption at our house. This was, however, the first time I had used the KPA1500 with the 20m beam wich sits directly above the house--I usually only let the Big Dog bark in wee hours of the morning on 40 and 80m. > My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the bathroom. The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. > Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the group. Not letting the Big Dog bark during the daytime on 10/15/20m is not a good solution. In the meantime I'm on WSPR at 1w. Your advice, please. > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rocketnj at gmail.com From aa4ak.1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 18:04:05 2020 From: aa4ak.1 at gmail.com (Steve Kercel) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 18:04:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9b6fd7ae-5c52-1212-e705-ea556af49c99@gmail.com> Eric: You've just discovered one of the reasons that Comcast has the reputation of being "the most hated corporation in America." Your chances of getting any cooperation from Comcast are practically nil. I had a similar problem with Comcast some years back. I finessed the problem by cancelling my Comcast service and going to satellite TV and internet. It is more expensive and more weather sensitive than cable, but I don't do business with people I don't like. No point in investing in the Big Dog if you can't let him bark. 73, Steve AA4AK On 8/6/2020 5:32 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > Dear Gang: > While looking at Europe banging in on 20m FT8 this morning, I switched over to CW, cruised the band, then called CQ DX for a while.? An hour later, a Comcast (Xfinity) technician was knocking on the door (no mask) claiming I was knocking out service to 600 customers (he said he had traced it to my house) and was disconnecting us from the network.? During the entire time, my wife was using a VPN network connecting to her office, and I had the KPA1500 connected to the router so I could use FANticipator to keep the KPA1500 (The Big Dog) quiet and cool.? We had no service interruption. > The router has a mix 31 toroid choke (9 turns) coming out of one port, on a cat6 shielded? cable (all cables brand new) then has another choke before going into a switch--one cable going into the XYL's room with her computer, another cable going through another choke then going into the shack.? We convinced the supervisor to rehook us up. > All during my operating time, we had no service interruption at our house.? This was, however, the first time I had used the KPA1500 with the 20m beam wich sits directly above the house--I usually only let the Big Dog bark in wee hours of the morning on 40 and 80m. > My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the bathroom.? The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. > Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the group.? Not letting the Big Dog bark during the daytime on 10/15/20m is not? a good solution.? In the meantime I'm on WSPR at 1w.? Your advice, please. > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to aa4ak.1 at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 6 18:14:28 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:14:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1bb1bbbc-a013-3db1-55e2-4cba3311d072@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/6/2020 2:32 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the bathroom.? The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. > Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the group. While the house is probably "grandfathered" from complying with current Electrical Code, you should definitely check out the grounding and bonding of your home and station. At a minimum, you should have everything in your station bonded, have a decent collection of driven rods all bonded together, to all other grounds (telco, power entry, Comcast). http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf That said, it's Comcast's problem to clean up their equipment and cable installation. Common causes of issues like this are poor coax connectors and installation, both those done by Comcast and those done by a customer's illegal "tap-off." Another likely cause is a Pin One-like Problem where coax cables connect to their victim electronics. If possible at this time, I'd try to get ARRL involved. 73, Jim K9YC From edauer at law.du.edu Thu Aug 6 18:36:44 2020 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 22:36:44 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Training Message-ID: Not to mention being completely baffled about why (or even the fact that) a transmitter's PA tube (a what?) plate current should be dipped rather than maxed. Ted, KN1CBR (remembering his 1956 DX-20 and 1958 Viking Ranger) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:39:23 -0400 From: Grant Youngman . . . if you gave a recently minted ham (or not) a Globe Champion 300 or even a Globe Scout he?d likely be completely mystified, and wonder where the RS-232 interface and keyer speed control was. THAT might take some training videos, or at least an elmer :-) Grant NQ5T From ardrhi at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 18:35:43 2020 From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 18:35:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <1bb1bbbc-a013-3db1-55e2-4cba3311d072@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> <1bb1bbbc-a013-3db1-55e2-4cba3311d072@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: This is precisely why we don't have Comcrap and instead have FIOS. We had constant trouble with Comcrap, and almost ZERO problems with Verizon. The only issue we ever had was when we decided to cut the cord on the landline and TV. We never watched the TV anymore, and the only callers on the landline were robocalls and scammers. They really didn't want to let us unbundle the Internet as they make an unreasonable amount of money from the cable stations. But we persevered and managed to get the "Quantum" FIOS, with NO landline and NO cable TV for a reasonable price. No further issues. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73, Gwen, NG3P On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 6:16 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/6/2020 2:32 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > > My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the > bathroom. The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. > > Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from > the group. > > While the house is probably "grandfathered" from complying with current > Electrical Code, you should definitely check out the grounding and > bonding of your home and station. At a minimum, you should have > everything in your station bonded, have a decent collection of driven > rods all bonded together, to all other grounds (telco, power entry, > Comcast). > > http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf > > That said, it's Comcast's problem to clean up their equipment and cable > installation. Common causes of issues like this are poor coax connectors > and installation, both those done by Comcast and those done by a > customer's illegal "tap-off." Another likely cause is a Pin One-like > Problem where coax cables connect to their victim electronics. If > possible at this time, I'd try to get ARRL involved. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ardrhi at gmail.com From radiok4ia at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 18:58:19 2020 From: radiok4ia at gmail.com (Buck) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 18:58:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <60A05D6A-089D-484A-B2E9-EADEBBAF4B17@gmail.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> <60A05D6A-089D-484A-B2E9-EADEBBAF4B17@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50119b66-ebd5-60bc-484b-d7786e7d460a@Gmail.com> We have 40-year-old, squirrel-chewed, waterlogged cable in our neighborhood. Lots of unterminated connectors too. COX has spent nothing to maintain it. Switched to FIOS and problems gone. At the office, we lose Internet every time it rains. I swear Comcast is using the old Civil War telegrapher's lines. FIOS is in the ground on the other side of the street but Verizon won't extend it into our office park. It is possible to talk about something other than the K4 delivery date. k4ia, Buck K3s# 11497 Honor Roll 8B DXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 8/6/2020 6:00 PM, Dave wrote: > I do not have any chokes or ferries and have the beam on a Glen Martin on the roof. Shack on second floor and cable modem & router in shack. Hard wired access point and gig switch in living room. No issues. > > I?d ask the cable tech to show you that you are causing the interruption. Coordinate with a friend to operate your station while you observe what the tech sees. > > Also, how far from your house is the cable node located? Maybe they have loose/poor connections in the network allowing ingress of RF? > > My cable company uses 28 MHz upstream channels which are a second harmonic of 20 meters but I would think RF levels at second harmonic should not affect anything. > > They probably saw your antenna and pointed the finger. > > Dave > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > >> On Aug 6, 2020, at 5:33 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: >> >> ?Dear Gang: >> While looking at Europe banging in on 20m FT8 this morning, I switched over to CW, cruised the band, then called CQ DX for a while. An hour later, a Comcast (Xfinity) technician was knocking on the door (no mask) claiming I was knocking out service to 600 customers (he said he had traced it to my house) and was disconnecting us from the network. During the entire time, my wife was using a VPN network connecting to her office, and I had the KPA1500 connected to the router so I could use FANticipator to keep the KPA1500 (The Big Dog) quiet and cool. We had no service interruption. >> The router has a mix 31 toroid choke (9 turns) coming out of one port, on a cat6 shielded cable (all cables brand new) then has another choke before going into a switch--one cable going into the XYL's room with her computer, another cable going through another choke then going into the shack. We convinced the supervisor to rehook us up. >> All during my operating time, we had no service interruption at our house. This was, however, the first time I had used the KPA1500 with the 20m beam wich sits directly above the house--I usually only let the Big Dog bark in wee hours of the morning on 40 and 80m. >> My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the bathroom. The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. >> Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the group. Not letting the Big Dog bark during the daytime on 10/15/20m is not a good solution. In the meantime I'm on WSPR at 1w. Your advice, please. >> >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rocketnj at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com > From joseph.durnal at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 20:28:31 2020 From: joseph.durnal at gmail.com (Joseph M. Durnal) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 20:28:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This one is going to be tough, because they aren't likely to give you the details you would need to know. Your post suggests that you have been disconnected. Get on 20 meters at legal limit all day, see if he comes back. If so, it is almost certainly their problem. If not, the problem is probably in your house somewhere. It could be their equipment (I have comcast for the Internet, but don't use their equipment, but most people do), but, you'll have a hard time making the case. Many 75 ohm wiring jobs are just done poorly but whatever cheap contractor was doing it in your neighborhood and you may need to do some work on it. If it is old, just run some good new RG6 and quality F type connectors. You could be getting into the cable through your home AC wiring too, so make sure that you've choked those power cords too. If it is still happening after all of that, look into a high pass filter, I'm not sure if those will work these days, you'll really have to get into the specs of your cable service for that. I don't run legal limit but I do run my HF antenna indoors, had some trouble with my own internet connection, but never got a visit from comcast myself, my fix was grounding the splitter where the cable came into my house, but I also ran some new RG6 from the splitter to the cable modem and replaced the cheap F connectors with good ones. 73 de Joe NE3R On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 5:32 PM eric norris via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Dear Gang: > While looking at Europe banging in on 20m FT8 this morning, I switched > over to CW, cruised the band, then called CQ DX for a while. An hour > later, a Comcast (Xfinity) technician was knocking on the door (no mask) > claiming I was knocking out service to 600 customers (he said he had traced > it to my house) and was disconnecting us from the network. During the > entire time, my wife was using a VPN network connecting to her office, and > I had the KPA1500 connected to the router so I could use FANticipator to > keep the KPA1500 (The Big Dog) quiet and cool. We had no service > interruption. > The router has a mix 31 toroid choke (9 turns) coming out of one port, on > a cat6 shielded cable (all cables brand new) then has another choke before > going into a switch--one cable going into the XYL's room with her computer, > another cable going through another choke then going into the shack. We > convinced the supervisor to rehook us up. > All during my operating time, we had no service interruption at our > house. This was, however, the first time I had used the KPA1500 with the > 20m beam wich sits directly above the house--I usually only let the Big Dog > bark in wee hours of the morning on 40 and 80m. > My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the > bathroom. The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. > Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the > group. Not letting the Big Dog bark during the daytime on 10/15/20m is > not a good solution. In the meantime I'm on WSPR at 1w. Your advice, > please. > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to joseph.durnal at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 6 21:54:54 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 18:54:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> <1bb1bbbc-a013-3db1-55e2-4cba3311d072@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: On 8/6/2020 3:35 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > This is precisely why we don't have Comcrap and instead have FIOS. We had > constant trouble with Comcrap, and almost ZERO problems with Verizon. Wish I had that option, but I'm lucky to have a POTS line here in the Santa Cruz Mountains. No cell coverage at all. Just last night, we had a community meeting about the issue of communications here. Comcast internet is pretty fast, but their system has no backup power, so when PG&E shuts down their system when it gets windy so it won't start a fire, it typically stays down for 24-36 hours. So Comcast dies. And maybe Telco (AT&T) does too. Oh -- that Comcast guy, who claimed to be technical, stonewalled about the issue, and put out a "snow job" that baffled the non-tech folks running the meeting. And why does PG&E have to shut down? Because they've failed to maintain their lines, and, as I understand it, most of them are bare wire! 73, Jim K9YC From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 01:13:22 2020 From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 05:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65923210.1266616.1596777202673@mail.yahoo.com> This begs the question:? If I "caused" the outage, how is it possible my own internet never went out?? They claim they get a lot of complaints about customer's internet dropping out, but don't realize I WAS THE ONE making half those complaints!? It drops constantly, all hours of the day and night.?? They haven't cut us off yet, but if they do, the Big Dog shall bark.? And bark.? And bark some more.? In the meantime, I will continue being the good neighbor, listening most of the time, running barefoot mostly, not stomping on the unwashed masses of ham neighbors who do not seem to return the favor, and being kind, truthful, clean, and a revenant, or reverent, I forget. Thanks to everyone who replied, I'll let you know how it plays out. 73, Eric WD6DBM On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 5:28 PM, Joseph M. Durnal wrote: This one is going to be tough, because?they aren't likely to give you the details you would need to know.? Your post suggests that you have been disconnected.? Get on 20 meters at legal limit all day, see if he comes back.? If so, it is almost certainly their problem.? If not, the problem is probably in your house somewhere.? It could be their equipment (I have comcast for the Internet, but don't use their equipment, but most people do), but, you'll have a hard time making the case.? Many 75 ohm wiring?jobs are just done poorly?but whatever cheap contractor was doing it in your neighborhood and you may need to do some work on it.? If it is old, just run some good new RG6 and quality F type connectors.? You could be getting into the cable through your home AC wiring too, so make sure that you've choked those power cords too.? If it is still happening after all of that, look into a high pass filter, I'm not sure if those will work these days, you'll really have to get into the specs of your cable service for that.?? I don't run legal limit but I do run my HF antenna indoors, had some trouble with my own internet connection, but never got a visit from comcast myself, my fix was grounding the splitter where the cable came into my house, but I also ran some new RG6 from the splitter to the cable modem and replaced the cheap F connectors with good ones.? 73 de Joe NE3R On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 5:32 PM eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Dear Gang: While looking at Europe banging in on 20m FT8 this morning, I switched over to CW, cruised the band, then called CQ DX for a while.? An hour later, a Comcast (Xfinity) technician was knocking on the door (no mask) claiming I was knocking out service to 600 customers (he said he had traced it to my house) and was disconnecting us from the network.? During the entire time, my wife was using a VPN network connecting to her office, and I had the KPA1500 connected to the router so I could use FANticipator to keep the KPA1500 (The Big Dog) quiet and cool.? We had no service interruption. The router has a mix 31 toroid choke (9 turns) coming out of one port, on a cat6 shielded? cable (all cables brand new) then has another choke before going into a switch--one cable going into the XYL's room with her computer, another cable going through another choke then going into the shack.? We convinced the supervisor to rehook us up.?? All during my operating time, we had no service interruption at our house.? This was, however, the first time I had used the KPA1500 with the 20m beam wich sits directly above the house--I usually only let the Big Dog bark in wee hours of the morning on 40 and 80m. My house is 65 yrs old, none of the outlets have grounds, not even the bathroom.? The entire kitchen is on one circuit, etc, etc. Before I call the Comcast supervisor, I'm hoping for some advice from the group.? Not letting the Big Dog bark during the daytime on 10/15/20m is not? a good solution.? In the meantime I'm on WSPR at 1w.? Your advice, please. From ns9i at bayland.net Fri Aug 7 09:18:29 2020 From: ns9i at bayland.net (NS9I WI) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:18:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3 w/options In-Reply-To: References: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> <5466708a-fc33-19be-8ceb-53b6b3e5d4f8@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <2475da6b-7dab-97eb-239c-cd6fa7410dbc@bayland.net> S/N #3095 (Mfd May 23, 2009) 1. KRX3 HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUBRECEIVER 2. KAT3 100-WATT AUTOMATIC ANTENNA TUNER 3. KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kits USB Cable to computer, 6-12M Pre-amp 4. KSYN3A SYNTHESIZERS Upgrade including one for the sub-rcvr 5. KPA3? Internal 100 W Upgrade 6. Standard 2.7 kHz 5 pole filter in Main and Sub 7. KFL3A-250 250 Hz, 8-pole in Main 8. KFL3A-400 400HZ 8-POLE in Main 9. INRAD 700 Hz 8-POLE in Main 10. MH-4 Hand Mike Been back to Elecraft a couple of times, all the available updates have been done and most recently in fall of 2019, the latest LPA board was installed, Gold Pins;?? 6 pins for 12V, KPA3 to KPAIO3 Riser, and Front Panel, P30 and P35 Includes: DC cable to power strip (powerpole connectors) Original Box - Elecraft K3S & P3 by Fred Cady (Design, Configuration, and Operation) book and the original manual. Asking $2,400 (OBO), shipped from NE Wisconsin. Paypal or USPS M.O. 73 Dwight NS9I From rick at tavan.com Fri Aug 7 11:47:22 2020 From: rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:47:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5F28FA6F.2360.3F802628@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <001501d66a03$1c727e80$55577b80$@yahoo.com> <361C0CAF-BFDE-4E17-9783-9720DA7276D6@widomaker.com> <5F28FA6F.2360.3F802628@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Video tutorials would be a good idea, Gary. I wouldn't encourage Elecraft to delay K4 shipment until they are available, though. I suspect owner-produced vids will surface quickly and will be helpful for some. For what it's worth, as an experienced K3 user, I felt comfortable with my field test K4 *immediately* and very comfortable after an hour of simply poking around. The connections are plug-compatible. The UI metaphors are consistent.The menu structure is simpler and includes more text. There are, of course, some differences and new features, especially around the gorgeous display. (P3 experience will help there.) Most of the features are easily discoverable. Most Elecraft veterans won't need more than a brief tip sheet/application note explaining new stuff. Owners who are new to Elecraft may find videos helpful. A typically excellent Elecraft Owner's Manual (not yet available) will round out the doc set. It's a great radio and will be well worth the wait! 73, /Rick N6XI On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:05 PM Gary Smith wrote: > I would really like it if when the K4 is > released, there were also released on the > same day, training videos showing what to > push, what to enter, a how-to set of > videos covering different topics of > interest. > > Either a bunch of short ones on a web > page, sorted by topic & exactly to the > point so they'd be easy to find and could > be easily replayed till the idea is > understood. That, or a good legend > accompanying a long, more encompassing > presentation with reference time marks to > know where to search for a given > demonstration. > > We all learn differently, I have 11 years > of college under my belt, but in my old > age I still say I learn best by observing > a demonstration than otherwise. > > But that's just me. > > 73, > > Gary > KA1J > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rtavan at gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA From ptaa at ieee.org Fri Aug 7 12:11:28 2020 From: ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 09:11:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [KPA500] 270V ERR Message-ID: <1596816688355-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hello, We are constantly getting the "270V ERR" when switching over to OPER. We have checked that the micro-switch is working properly and is correctly operated by the lid. We have also tried the power reset, but still the same. We know there is a problem with the I/O card, since we are not able to get a PC connected to the serial port - RS232 (PC). So, we can not use the KPA500 Utility Program. Is it in any way possible that a fault on the I/O-card can cause the "270V ERR" message? 73, Per-Tore LA7NO ----- 73, Per-Tore / LA7NO -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 7 12:16:57 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 09:16:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Saturday & Sunday, all day: Live demos of Elecraft products at QSO Today Ham Expo Message-ID: <70082D90-298E-49D0-B880-4DF8B40CA044@elecraft.com> Hi all, As you may know, Elecraft is a gold sponsor of the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend. We'd love to have you drop by our booth. In addition to new video content, we'll have our product specialists and designers available, running live demos all day both Saturday and Sunday. We'll be taking questions in real time, providing operating tips, discussing design details, etc. To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. Not registered for the Expo yet? Registration is free; just visit the Expo Website . 73, Wayne N6KR ----- Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio www.elecraft.com QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 www.qsotodayhamexpo.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 7 12:31:45 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 09:31:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo Message-ID: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo? Website to register). To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. 73, Wayne N6KR ----- Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio www.elecraft.com QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 www.qsotodayhamexpo.com From n6tv at arrl.net Fri Aug 7 13:02:25 2020 From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:02:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Cable for K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe, A single cable can work, but it may not be the ideal solution for the long run, should your equipment expand or change. Instead of a custom K3 to SPE cable, consider an alternative that will allow stock cables to work, no matter which radio or amplifier you want to connect. I designed the Serial Box (S-BOX ) to make it easy to connect the K3 (or any modern transceiver) to any device designed to monitor serial port traffic for automatic band switching and auto-tuning, including all SPE Expert amplifiers and most ACOM automatic amplifiers, plust the Elecraft KPA1500 and any serial port band decoders / antenna switches and SteppIR controllers. The goal was to allow all of these devices to track the transmit frequency of the transceiver automatically (not just the band), with all devices switching at the same time. The S-BOX can also be configured to support the custom "null-modem" connection from the 9-pin SPE "PORT" terminal to a SteppIR controller, if you have more than one transceiver connected to the SPE, and are using both inputs. The SPE firmware automatically translates the frequency data of the active radio to a common format for the SteppIR controller. Using a simple cable with "Band Data" pins on the K3 ACC connector (instead of serial data) isn't ideal if you intend to use the Expert's built-in tuner on some band segments, because that cable only provides band information to the amplifier, instead of frequency information to the tuner. Using a simple cable to the K3 RS-232 connector precludes using it for other purposes, such as a logging program. The S-BOX was designed to work around these common interconnection issues. 73, Bob, N6TV https://bit.ly/S-BOX On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:06 AM K4PX K4PX wrote: > Anybody got a spare cable to run from K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA they would like > to part with? > 73, > Joe > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6tv at arrl.net > From augie.hansen at comcast.net Fri Aug 7 13:15:10 2020 From: augie.hansen at comcast.net (Augie "Gus" Hansen) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:15:10 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [KPA500] 270V ERR In-Reply-To: <1596816688355-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1596816688355-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <053f66ad-11d0-10e9-d73b-179354548bb5@comcast.net> Be certain that both ends of the heavy power cable between the PS and the amp are properly installed. Unplug the power pole connectors and reinsert them fully until you hear and feel the click. This ERR indication happened to my KPA1500 recently because the APP on the amp end was slightly loose. I have revised my cabling layout to put some strain relief on that heavy cable to prevent this problem from recurring. Gus Hansen KB0YH (proud son of Norway!) On 8/7/2020 10:11 AM, LA7NO wrote: > Hello, > > We are constantly getting the "270V ERR" when switching over to OPER. > We have checked that the micro-switch is working properly and is correctly > operated by the lid. > We have also tried the power reset, but still the same. > > We know there is a problem with the I/O card, since we are not able to get a > PC connected to the serial port - RS232 (PC). > So, we can not use the KPA500 Utility Program. > > Is it in any way possible that a fault on the I/O-card can cause the "270V > ERR" message? > From ghyoungman at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 13:15:40 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:15:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo In-Reply-To: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> References: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <18C40958-3562-4933-A7B6-997637240931@gmail.com> Except for the indoor flea market, ability to knob twiddle, photos and a beer with friends, and the profuse sweat generated from trekking through the outdoor flea in 100 deg weather, 4 times, it?s starting to look like this Virtual Expo is going to be a great event. Especially at the Elecraft booth ? Grant NQ5T > On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. > > On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: > > - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time > - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization > - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) > - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. > > As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo Website to register). To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Aug 7 13:22:01 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:22:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 20m CW + KPA1500 = Comcast Disconnect In-Reply-To: <65923210.1266616.1596777202673@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2077831116.1105692.1596749526699@mail.yahoo.com> <65923210.1266616.1596777202673@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72577bf5-c5fb-53de-073c-681b65ab4f63@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/6/2020 10:13 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > It drops constantly, all hours of the day and night. Eric, I had that problem for years here in the house I bought in NorCal. Turned out to be a 6dB attenuator that the Comcast installer had added to the tap-off that already had the right attenuation. Removed the attenuator and it's been rock solid. Earlier, I had found flaky coax connectors inside their box. So the modem was starved for signal. I understand these systems -- I installed them in Chicago in places like Sears Tower. :) 73, Jim K9YC From garnere at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 13:55:45 2020 From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:55:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo In-Reply-To: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> References: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of us who cant make it this weekend? Eric On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? One > of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. > > On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, > including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: > > - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time > - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization > - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) > - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. > > As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all major > project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo < > https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/>Website > to register). To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo > Schedule when you visit our booth. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > ----- > > Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio > www.elecraft.com > > QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 > www.qsotodayhamexpo.com > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to garnere at gmail.com From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri Aug 7 13:57:17 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:57:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a built-in help system. I can see it as being just showing the relevant section of the manual, but it might be different. Is it currently available, or is it waiting for the manual. or is something different? 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/7/20 at 11:47 AM, rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) wrote: >The menu structure is simpler and includes more text. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Peterborough, NH 03458 From rick at tavan.com Fri Aug 7 14:04:39 2020 From: rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:04:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The "?" Help trigger is there but I think the text is pending completion of the manual on which it will be based. /Rick N6XI On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:57 AM Bill Frantz wrote: > I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a > built-in help system. I can see it as being just showing the > relevant section of the manual, but it might be different. > > Is it currently available, or is it waiting for the manual. or > is something different? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 8/7/20 at 11:47 AM, rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) wrote: > > >The menu structure is simpler and includes more text. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 > Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | > Peterborough, NH 03458 > > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA From markmusick at outlook.com Fri Aug 7 14:08:53 2020 From: markmusick at outlook.com (Mark Musick) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:08:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo In-Reply-To: References: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> Message-ID: It is my understanding Eric that the presentations will be kept on line for 30 days for later viewing. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Eric Garner Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 17:56 To: Wayne Burdick Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of us who cant make it this weekend? Eric On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? > One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. > > On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, > including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: > > - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time > - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization > - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) > - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. > > As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all > major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the > Expo < > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > qsotodayhamexpo.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C73c56633bc204ac9e28408d83 > afb7bc0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63732419906558239 > 6&sdata=LiSDYc0%2BRK1XLhE%2FK43MznWET9Mtm2X1bI0u%2B23YPJk%3D&r > eserved=0>Website > .qsotodayhamexpo.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C73c56633bc204ac9e28408d8 > 3afb7bc0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6373241990655923 > 90&sdata=GLWtHHLniGFT1083oVFWNTTidgB%2FiaBZQdQ9akZKGC0%3D&rese > rved=0> to register). 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Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my first sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that transcends content. Wayne > On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner wrote: > > Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of us who cant make it this weekend? > > Eric > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. > > On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: > > - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time > - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization > - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) > - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. > > As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo Website to register). To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > ----- > > Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio > www.elecraft.com > > QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 > www.qsotodayhamexpo.com > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to garnere at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 7 14:10:25 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:10:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bill, Yes, the built-in Info System (accessed by tapping the "?" button) is a unique feature of the K4. We're refining it as we go along. It will be available for preview/comment at some point. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a built-in help system. I can see it as being just showing the relevant section of the manual, but it might be different. > > Is it currently available, or is it waiting for the manual. or is something different? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 8/7/20 at 11:47 AM, rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) wrote: > >> The menu structure is simpler and includes more text. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Peterborough, NH 03458 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From jackbrindle at me.com Fri Aug 7 14:28:03 2020 From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:28:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KPA500] 270V ERR In-Reply-To: <1596816688355-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1596816688355-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: It sounds like you really need to contact the tech support guys for this one. The small cable from the microswitch plugs into the Power Supply board. Make sure it is properly seated. It is behind the big toroid transformer, so you may have to move that to check. The signal indicating that 270V is bad comes from the PA module to the front panel over the ribbon cable that is permanently attached to the PA sandwich. Make sure that cable is securely plugged into the front panel connector. The 270V is enabled when the KPA500 goes into OPER mode. If you always get this fault when switching from STBY to OPER, it is an indication that something is not right in the power supply. Again, contact Customer Support to get their help in tracing this down. To specifically answer your question, it is ?NO'. The IO board has no part in getting the 270V supply going, checked, and reported to the front panel board. Good luck getting the KPA500 going again. It is a great amplifier! But then I?m a bit biased? 73! Jack Brindle, W6FB Elecraft Engineering > On Aug 7, 2020, at 9:11 AM, LA7NO wrote: > > Hello, > > We are constantly getting the "270V ERR" when switching over to OPER. > We have checked that the micro-switch is working properly and is correctly > operated by the lid. > We have also tried the power reset, but still the same. > > We know there is a problem with the I/O card, since we are not able to get a > PC connected to the serial port - RS232 (PC). > So, we can not use the KPA500 Utility Program. > > Is it in any way possible that a fault on the I/O-card can cause the "270V > ERR" message? > > 73, > > Per-Tore > LA7NO > > > > > ----- > 73, > > Per-Tore / LA7NO > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrindle at me.com From radiok4ia at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 14:37:26 2020 From: radiok4ia at gmail.com (Buck) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:37:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e04026f-1c6b-992b-0bfa-fc44a5efa112@Gmail.com> Wayne, you think of everything. Buck, k4ia Honor Roll 8BDXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 8/7/2020 2:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Yes, the built-in Info System (accessed by tapping the "?" button) is a unique feature of the K4. We're refining it as we go along. It will be available for preview/comment at some point. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a built-in help system. I can see it as being just showing the relevant section of the manual, but it might be different. >> >> Is it currently available, or is it waiting for the manual. or is something different? >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> On 8/7/20 at 11:47 AM, rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) wrote: >> >>> The menu structure is simpler and includes more text. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle >> (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 >> www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Peterborough, NH 03458 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com > From ptaa at ieee.org Fri Aug 7 15:53:05 2020 From: ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:53:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Test - please ignore Message-ID: <1596829985839-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Test ----- 73, Per-Tore / LA7NO -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From ns9i at bayland.net Fri Aug 7 16:43:30 2020 From: ns9i at bayland.net (NS9I WI) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:43:30 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3 w/options SOLD In-Reply-To: <2475da6b-7dab-97eb-239c-cd6fa7410dbc@bayland.net> References: <202008052050.075KojUR014506@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> <5466708a-fc33-19be-8ceb-53b6b3e5d4f8@audiosystemsgroup.com> <2475da6b-7dab-97eb-239c-cd6fa7410dbc@bayland.net> Message-ID: <8cac1cf8-2361-1fcf-6b12-5959560efdc9@bayland.net> SOLD SOLD On 8/7/2020 8:18 AM, NS9I WI wrote: > S/N #3095 (Mfd May 23, 2009) > > 1. KRX3 HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUBRECEIVER > 2. KAT3 100-WATT AUTOMATIC ANTENNA TUNER > 3. KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kits USB Cable to computer, 6-12M Pre-amp > 4. KSYN3A SYNTHESIZERS Upgrade including one for the sub-rcvr > 5. KPA3? Internal 100 W Upgrade > 6. Standard 2.7 kHz 5 pole filter in Main and Sub > 7. KFL3A-250 250 Hz, 8-pole in Main > 8. KFL3A-400 400HZ 8-POLE in Main > 9. INRAD 700 Hz 8-POLE in Main > 10. MH-4 Hand Mike > > Been back to Elecraft a couple of times, all the available updates > have been done and most recently in fall of 2019, the latest LPA board > was installed, > Gold Pins;?? 6 pins for 12V, KPA3 to KPAIO3 Riser, and Front Panel, > P30 and P35 > > Includes: DC cable to power strip (powerpole connectors) > Original Box - Elecraft K3S & P3 by Fred Cady (Design, Configuration, > and Operation) book and the original manual. > > Asking $2,400 (OBO), shipped from NE Wisconsin. Paypal or USPS M.O. > > 73 Dwight NS9I > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ns9i at bayland.net From K1ND at Comcast.net Fri Aug 7 16:49:22 2020 From: K1ND at Comcast.net (Jan) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:49:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100/ATU basic TRX For Sale Message-ID: *Open for offer *~ basic Elecraft K3/100/ATU serial 6153 [clean; non smoker] with 2.7kHz? & 50Hz filters & KIO3, HM2 hand-mike,dc cord and manual Estate item needs a new home; Shipped via FedEx ground/insured [double boxed] /Make me an offer/ on this; pay by check or money order Regards, Jan K1ND? ~ 40 years in S.E. Michigan ~ -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From dana.roode at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 17:01:52 2020 From: dana.roode at gmail.com (Dana Roode K6NR) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:01:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Transmit Timeout for Remote Operation Message-ID: I've been using my K3 remote for many years. I'm using VNC to a controlling PC to operate the K3 and a variety of other equipment. I have relied on an imperfect external solution to protect against runaway transmission. I've seen postings to the list over the years about a timeout that tracks when the PTT is on and triggers TX Inhibit if its on more than a defined length of time, resetting when PTT goes off. Does anyone have a circuit for this to share or other suggestions? I imagine a 555 timer or the like with the right interfaces to the K3. I understand that some of the Remote Radio interfaces have this built in, but I'm not using them. Dana From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri Aug 7 21:21:51 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 21:21:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Wayne. With the manual online, and support for jumping to the relevant section, it will be better than what I have with the K3, where the manual is on my computer and I have to text search for the relevant section. The neat thing is that the online manual can be automatically updated with new versions of the firmware. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/7/20 at 2:10 PM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: >Hi Bill, > >Yes, the built-in Info System (accessed by tapping the "?" >button) is a unique feature of the K4. We're refining it as we >go along. It will be available for preview/comment at some point. > >73, >Wayne >N6KR > > >>On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >>I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a built-in help system. I can see it as >being just showing the relevant section of the manual, but it might be different. >> >>Is it currently available, or is it waiting for the manual. or is something different? >> >>73 Bill AE6JV >> >>On 8/7/20 at 11:47 AM, rick at tavan.com (Rick Tavan) wrote: >> >>> The menu structure is simpler and includes more text. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to 408-348-7900 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.? -- Einstein From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 7 21:27:45 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:27:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... Message-ID: <8A2B9A5F-391F-43AB-BF82-335F0B043705@elecraft.com> Note to all who are interested in the Expo: Our demos don't start until tomorrow morning, but attendees can visit the Exhibitor booths now. We're already there, available to answer questions or just ragchew.... 73, Wayne N6KR From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri Aug 7 21:54:26 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 21:54:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... In-Reply-To: <8A2B9A5F-391F-43AB-BF82-335F0B043705@elecraft.com> Message-ID: OK. I registered for the expo, but have no idea of how to get there. When I go to there is a "Click here to get to the expo" button, but when click it, I just get a webpage with information about what is coming. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/7/20 at 9:27 PM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: >Note to all who are interested in the Expo: > >Our demos don't start until tomorrow morning, but attendees can >visit the Exhibitor booths now. We're already there, available >to answer questions or just ragchew.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | over lies and hate. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Peterborough, NH 03458 From jim at n7us.net Fri Aug 7 21:58:59 2020 From: jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:58:59 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... In-Reply-To: References: <8A2B9A5F-391F-43AB-BF82-335F0B043705@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <03d001d66d27$7bb43c90$731cb5b0$@n7us.net> Go to https://qsotoday.vfairs.com/ and click the Login button. Jim N7US -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 20:54 To: Wayne Burdick Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... OK. I registered for the expo, but have no idea of how to get there. When I go to there is a "Click here to get to the expo" button, but when click it, I just get a webpage with information about what is coming. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/7/20 at 9:27 PM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: >Note to all who are interested in the Expo: > >Our demos don't start until tomorrow morning, but attendees can visit >the Exhibitor booths now. We're already there, available to answer >questions or just ragchew.... From rocketnj at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 22:00:58 2020 From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 22:00:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AB9D57F-F5B1-4FB6-837D-6DB272569804@gmail.com> https://qsotoday.vfairs.com/ 73 Dave wo2x Sent from my iPad > On Aug 7, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > ?OK. I registered for the expo, but have no idea of how to get there. When I go to there is a "Click here to get to the expo" button, but when click it, I just get a webpage with information about what is coming. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > >> On 8/7/20 at 9:27 PM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: >> >> Note to all who are interested in the Expo: >> >> Our demos don't start until tomorrow morning, but attendees can visit the Exhibitor booths now. We're already there, available to answer questions or just ragchew.... > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | over lies and hate. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Peterborough, NH 03458 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rocketnj at gmail.com From vk4tux at gmail.com Fri Aug 7 22:08:45 2020 From: vk4tux at gmail.com (Adrian) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 12:08:45 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Cable for K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0cb801d66d28$db44b1c0$91ce1540$@gmail.com> Joe, just a note on SPE amplifier interfacing, is that not all rigs are supported for cat frequency read interfacing or even band switching. This is essential for the SPE atu (if fitted and active), to set its tune setting before first keyup on band preventing a possible swr alarm and switch to strandby. Without CAT freq read the ATU had then used SPE internal RF sense freq counter during that keyup, but not fast enough to prevent that initial alarm, so the amp still needs to be switched back to 'Operate' to continue, so CAT freq tracking is very convenient for the ATU to function before first keyup on band. I found DXLab Commander an excellent program in between SPE and transceiver to solve these situations For the Elecraft KX3 SPE with freq/band follow ; https://youtu.be/k87_lkO4mmY I also use it with my FTDX101MP to follow the SUB freq as well (does not work direct connected), The FT991 profile in SPE, and secondary Commander CAT works fine with either the MP and KX3 as primary Commander CAT connection. The amp has two inputs and 2 cat connections as you know. The Commander program is easily switched between the two, or a start profile setup for each transceiver. The CAT connection from SPE to PC has DB9 2&3 reversed or a nullmodem patch cable inserted in series with usual rig cat cable for rs-232 setups. Adrian Fewster VK4TUX > Anybody got a spare cable to run from K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA they would > like to part with? > 73, > Joe From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri Aug 7 22:11:04 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 22:11:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... In-Reply-To: <03d001d66d27$7bb43c90$731cb5b0$@n7us.net> Message-ID: Bingo. I didn't see the login button, and wouldn't have clicked it on my own. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/7/20 at 9:58 PM, jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald) wrote: > Go to https://qsotoday.vfairs.com/ and click the Login button. > > Jim N7US > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Bill Frantz > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 20:54 > To: Wayne Burdick > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham Expo has begun.... > > OK. I registered for the expo, but have no idea of how to get there. When I > go to there is a "Click here to get to the > expo" button, but when click it, I just get a webpage with information about > what is coming. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 8/7/20 at 9:27 PM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: > > >Note to all who are interested in the Expo: > > > >Our demos don't start until tomorrow morning, but attendees can visit > >the Exhibitor booths now. We're already there, available to answer > >questions or just ragchew.... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Airline peanut bag: "Produced | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | in a facility that processes | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | peanuts and other nuts." - Duh | Peterborough, NH 03458 From jboehner01 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 22:34:20 2020 From: jboehner01 at yahoo.com (James F. Boehner MD) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 22:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Cable for K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA In-Reply-To: <0cb801d66d28$db44b1c0$91ce1540$@gmail.com> References: <0cb801d66d28$db44b1c0$91ce1540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003401d66d2c$6c656020$45302060$@yahoo.com> Joe, I don't know if you have received this information, but I have cables that I ordered from Dan Tassell of Expert Linears: kc5pcb2 at att.net . He makes plug and play cables for various rigs to interface with the Expert Linears. He does good work and stands behind his products. More information is on their website http://expertlinears.com/ . '73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 10:09 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Cc: spe-amplifiers at groups.io; DXLab at groups.io; Elecraft-KX at groups.io Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cable for K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA Joe, just a note on SPE amplifier interfacing, is that not all rigs are supported for cat frequency read interfacing or even band switching. This is essential for the SPE atu (if fitted and active), to set its tune setting before first keyup on band preventing a possible swr alarm and switch to strandby. Without CAT freq read the ATU had then used SPE internal RF sense freq counter during that keyup, but not fast enough to prevent that initial alarm, so the amp still needs to be switched back to 'Operate' to continue, so CAT freq tracking is very convenient for the ATU to function before first keyup on band. I found DXLab Commander an excellent program in between SPE and transceiver to solve these situations For the Elecraft KX3 SPE with freq/band follow ; https://youtu.be/k87_lkO4mmY I also use it with my FTDX101MP to follow the SUB freq as well (does not work direct connected), The FT991 profile in SPE, and secondary Commander CAT works fine with either the MP and KX3 as primary Commander CAT connection. The amp has two inputs and 2 cat connections as you know. The Commander program is easily switched between the two, or a start profile setup for each transceiver. The CAT connection from SPE to PC has DB9 2&3 reversed or a nullmodem patch cable inserted in series with usual rig cat cable for rs-232 setups. Adrian Fewster VK4TUX > Anybody got a spare cable to run from K3 to Expert 1.3K-FA they would > like to part with? > 73, > Joe ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jboehner01 at yahoo.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat Aug 8 00:46:16 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 21:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Correction on QSO Today Ham Expo link In-Reply-To: References: <70082D90-298E-49D0-B880-4DF8B40CA044@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <9D05B969-5AC6-41A3-8D1A-E13A5F7C9538@elecraft.com> The original link I sent was to QSO today (the organizer), not Vfairs (the expo itself). To register, to to: qsotoday.vfairs.com 73, Wayne N6KR From a.durbin at msn.com Sat Aug 8 07:16:18 2020 From: a.durbin at msn.com (Andy Durbin) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 11:16:18 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [KPA500] 270V ERR Message-ID: "We are constantly getting the "270V ERR" when switching over to OPER.??We have checked that the micro-switch is working properly and is correctly?operated by the lid." If it were mine I'd measure the voltage and ask for the low and high warning levels.? ?Of course you must take proper precautions.? There is a reason there is an interlock switch.? My KPA 500 notes include this: "Investigation revealed the PSU board multiplier could produce 210V OFF LOAD with the PSU>LPF jumper disconnected but only 60v when the jumper was connected. Simulating the pin diode current consumption with a resistor also produced the same result. Turned out that R16 which should have been 100 ohm was now 1.2Mohm. Replacing it fixed that problem While talking to elecraft support it transpired that there was an upgrade kit (E850607) that replaces the Q5 FET on the LPF board with a transistor (as usual no reference could be found to it on the elecraft web site!). This upgrade has also now been done" I regret that I did not record the source. Andy, k3wyc From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 07:35:18 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 07:35:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f2e9022.1c69fb81.ec1a7.e8e9@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-07 21:21:-0400, Bill Frantz wrote: >With the manual online, and support for jumping to the relevant section, it will be better than what I have with the K3, where the manual is on my computer and I have to text search for the relevant section. The neat thing is that the online manual can be automatically updated with new versions of the firmware. I agree with the idea that the online manual can be frequently updated, but so can the PDF of the manual. I like both. I have found with other large projects, that the online manual is not well-searchable, and is broken into sections, so if I don't know what I am looking for, I can't find it. I have many frustrating experiences with that. Also, with the PDF, I can make notes on the manual, as long as it is not write-restricted. Some vendors secure their PDFs so that we can't copy from the manuals or make notes, both of which are real handicaps for the me, with the way I like to operate. The online version will not be writable, in the sense that I can't make notes in the relevant sections, but at least I should be able to copy from the web pages. I find that I usually wind up with my own set of notes, because few manuals are close to complete. Being able to copy from the manual makes that much easier. My experiences are also that online manuals tend to be less well-developed than good quality paper manuals. I am still playing with a variety of methods for accumulating notes, including printing occasional pages of online manuals to PDF and adding them to my own PDF. From K1ND at Comcast.net Sat Aug 8 08:00:25 2020 From: K1ND at Comcast.net (Jan) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 08:00:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100/ATU basic TRX For Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Elecraft K3/100/ATU has been sold 73 Jan, K1ND /Stay-Safe / -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 08:15:28 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 08:15:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5f2e9786.1c69fb81.e7294.875b@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-05 03:06:-0700, RICHARD Martin wrote: >A how to video would be a very nice feature, but we must remember the cost >of developing such a thing when our friends at Elecraft have to be in >desperate need of cash. >... >Thru most of my professional life, I have been responsible for the >conception, prototyping, and manufacture of large scientific instruments >($100K to $5M). The cost of the manuals/documentation was typically equal >to the development cost of the product. > >Dick KN6AA I am interested in the KX2, so I am gathering info on the product line to see if that is what I want to buy. I skimmed the KX2 vid, and found that it was not very useful. It was large a sales pitch. I have been involved with the dev of user manuals and operating procedures of complicated equipment, from stuff on the order of HP 15C calculators to 1100 MW generators. The cost to produce manuals has dropped significantly since 1980, largely due to the drop in cost of typesetting. Ironically, I opine, the quality has declined. Companies no longer invest in producing good manuals and training material, as a result, I see most often that the mfg directs questions to user fora. The downside to this is obvious. New users, not knowing what to ask or how to phrase a question, flounder around wasting a tremendous number of person-hours. I offered to help develop some docs for a few popular products, and was told by the developers/companies to simply start using the products, learn them well, and then produce those docs.They would be much appreciated!!! I declined. I don't have the time to waste learning the products using "seek and find" techniques. The cost of an HP-14C in 2020 USD was prolly on the order of $250. I'll bet the manual cost $10K to develop, independent of typesetting. But that cost was offset to some degree by the cost of the 15C and the number of them sold. Elecraft could easily pay attention to these fora, and regularly upgrade the manuals by posting new PDFs. I recently asked Elecraft a technical question that is not addressed in the manuals or on the web, and after 2 passes got a very nice succinct, clear, and complete answer. (Note that it took TWO cycles of emails to get that answer.) I immediately replied with thanks, and a recommendation that they add those comments to the web...and possibly manuals. I don't need a printed manual with my device. I think that they can look nice and be useful, though. I do appreciate a PDF that is not write protected, so that I can make my own notes and correct mistakes. I also appreciate a manual that is updated regularly. I don't like trolling lists and doing web searches, just to get vital information, and it is not a good use of employee time to be answering such questions repeatedly. I simply save each PDF version with all its notes, and then I can look in each version that I have. I think that well-produced videos, which abound on the web along with not-so-good vids, are very useful. I have seen a remark to the effect that someone was familiar with a different model of a radio, and when the newer one came out they were up and running in short order. But for someone not familiar with the product line, or perhaps not even familiar with radios in general, as a new ham, real howto vids can be most useful, I opine. I have been using Canon cameras for many years. I wanted a new point and shoot. So after reading reviews on various cameras (I am not especially brand-loyal) I decided to get a Canon. I had seen comments about how complicated it is for a PaS. I agree. But I found myself on familiar ground because of my years of experience w other Canons, so I was soon up and running. The other comments about it being complicated are valid, especially for one not already familiar with bigger Canon cameras. From ianjip at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 08:39:20 2020 From: ianjip at gmail.com (Ian Pryke) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 13:39:20 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with a straight key. Message-ID: <8072F7E4-349A-4ABC-A2BE-4ADF98CB35D8@hxcore.ol> From rich at wc3t.us Sat Aug 8 11:01:01 2020 From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 11:01:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with a straight key. In-Reply-To: <8072F7E4-349A-4ABC-A2BE-4ADF98CB35D8@hxcore.ol> References: <8072F7E4-349A-4ABC-A2BE-4ADF98CB35D8@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: Either a very pithy post, or HTML. :) On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 08:39 Ian Pryke wrote: > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* From neilz at techie.com Sat Aug 8 12:33:18 2020 From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 11:33:18 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo In-Reply-To: <951A381C-A11D-4ED7-A3CC-BD54FA7010B8@elecraft.com> References: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> <951A381C-A11D-4ED7-A3CC-BD54FA7010B8@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <1cd7785a-e783-0e13-b970-f25ee1890964@techie.com> I'm assuming that all the Zoom presentations will be available, since I'm assuming that people like me won't be able to view some of them live.?? I'm very interested in the Classic Line presentation, along with the K4 presentation. Thanks, Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/7/2020 1:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Recorded, yes, but I'm not sure when it will be posted. > > Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my first sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that transcends content. > > Wayne > > >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner wrote: >> >> Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of us who cant make it this weekend? >> >> Eric >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. >> >> On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: >> >> - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time >> - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization >> - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) >> - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. >> >> As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo Website to register). To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> ----- >> >> Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio >> www.elecraft.com >> >> QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 >> www.qsotodayhamexpo.com >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to garnere at gmail.com > From pg at fivesevenfive.org Sat Aug 8 12:40:35 2020 From: pg at fivesevenfive.org (Phil Genera) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 12:40:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo In-Reply-To: <1cd7785a-e783-0e13-b970-f25ee1890964@techie.com> References: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> <951A381C-A11D-4ED7-A3CC-BD54FA7010B8@elecraft.com> <1cd7785a-e783-0e13-b970-f25ee1890964@techie.com> Message-ID: All of the actual talks (not the Q&A) are pre-recorded, unlisted youtube videos with a transparent pane in front of them to make it hard to get to the underlying video. A few moments with the page inspector in chrome will get you the youtube link, which can then play back where and when you choose. -- Phil On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 12:33 PM Neil Zampella wrote: > I'm assuming that all the Zoom presentations will be available, since > I'm assuming that people like me won't be able to view some of them > live. I'm very interested in the Classic Line presentation, along with > the K4 presentation. > > Thanks, > > Neil, KN3ILZ > > On 8/7/2020 1:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Recorded, yes, but I'm not sure when it will be posted. > > > > Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my > first sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that > transcends content. > > > > Wayne > > > > > >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner wrote: > >> > >> Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of > us who cant make it this weekend? > >> > >> Eric > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: > >> Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? > One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. > >> > >> On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, > including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: > >> > >> - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time > >> - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization > >> - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) > >> - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. > >> > >> As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all > major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo > Website < > https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/> to register). To sign up for any of the > demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> > >> Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio > >> www.elecraft.com > >> > >> QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 > >> www.qsotodayhamexpo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to garnere at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pg at fivesevenfive.org > From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 13:30:48 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 13:30:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo Message-ID: <3355B872-ABD4-4709-BED0-D12D57D7738B@gmail.com> If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow. Great presentation!!! Thanks, Wayne ?. Grant NQ5T From n6tv at arrl.net Sat Aug 8 13:37:30 2020 From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 10:37:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WA6HHQ Update on Elecraft K4 SDR begins in 8 minutes at QSO Today Ham Expo Message-ID: https://qsotoday.vfairs.com/en/hall# Select Track 4. A live Q&A session via Zoom link should appear at the end of the presentation. Recording should be available if you miss it. 73, Bob, N6TV From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 15:57:13 2020 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 13:57:13 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo In-Reply-To: <1cd7785a-e783-0e13-b970-f25ee1890964@techie.com> References: <9A340223-69B2-4D9F-962D-B4A8B916BF8A@elecraft.com> <951A381C-A11D-4ED7-A3CC-BD54FA7010B8@elecraft.com> <1cd7785a-e783-0e13-b970-f25ee1890964@techie.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 10:33 Neil Zampella wrote: > I'm assuming that all the Zoom presentations will be available, since > I'm assuming that people like me won't be able to view some of them > live. I'm very interested in the Classic Line presentation, along with > the K4 presentation. > > Thanks, > > Neil, KN3ILZ > > On 8/7/2020 1:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Recorded, yes, but I'm not sure when it will be posted. > > > > Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my > first sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that > transcends content. > > > > Wayne > > > > > >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner wrote: > >> > >> Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of > us who cant make it this weekend? > >> > >> Eric > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: > >> Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? > One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling. > >> > >> On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, > including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include: > >> > >> - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time > >> - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization > >> - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production) > >> - discussion and live Q&A on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc. > >> > >> As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all > major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo > Website < > https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/> to register). To sign up for any of the > demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth. > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> > >> Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio > >> www.elecraft.com > >> > >> QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020 > >> www.qsotodayhamexpo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to garnere at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to elecraftcovers at gmail.com > From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat Aug 8 19:49:31 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 16:49:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo In-Reply-To: <3355B872-ABD4-4709-BED0-D12D57D7738B@gmail.com> References: <3355B872-ABD4-4709-BED0-D12D57D7738B@gmail.com> Message-ID: My pleasure, Grant. First Zoom presentation for me. I wasn't sure how the content (3D model tour) would go over, but the attendees turned out to be quite enthusiastic. The part I wasn't worried about was stage fright (year of playing guitar for large crowds, solo :) 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow. > > Great presentation!!! Thanks, Wayne ?. > > Grant NQ5T > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 8 19:52:37 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 16:52:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training In-Reply-To: <5f2e9786.1c69fb81.e7294.875b@mx.google.com> References: <5F2A141A.19653.15748D@Gary.ka1j.com> <5f2a5df3.1c69fb81.789ac.23c1@mx.google.com> <5f2e9786.1c69fb81.e7294.875b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1e413ccd-dac2-11e2-85cd-7a1b2188d193@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > I don't need a printed manual with my device. I think that they can look nice and be useful, though. I do appreciate a PDF that is not write protected, so that I can make my own notes and correct mistakes. I also appreciate a manual that is updated regularly. I don't like trolling lists and doing web searches, just to get vital information, and it is not a good use of employee time to be answering such questions repeatedly. I simply save each PDF version with all its notes, and then I can look in each version that I have. Hi Rich, I've also done a lot of tech writing over the years, including manuals for engineering software. Elecraft manuals are all on their website, and in my experience are pretty good. A printed copy is packed with their products. My only complaint about revisions (and there are revisions, mostly due to firmware upgrades) is that online versions should include full change logs. Each product has its own updating program, and last I looked, the only place they publish change logs, and it doesn't reference the manual. This is convenient for Elecraft, but IMO, lousy for the user. 73, Jim K9YC From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 20:06:11 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:06:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo In-Reply-To: References: <3355B872-ABD4-4709-BED0-D12D57D7738B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <480C6BA0-9D97-4038-9E9A-943760432BC4@gmail.com> Of course, we?d like to see the 3D models of the K4, too :-) Grant NQ5T > On Aug 8, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > My pleasure, Grant. First Zoom presentation for me. I wasn't sure how the content (3D model tour) would go over, but the attendees turned out to be quite enthusiastic. The part I wasn't worried about was stage fright (year of playing guitar for large crowds, solo :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > >> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: >> >> If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow. >> >> Great presentation!!! Thanks, Wayne ?. >> >> Grant NQ5T >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 20:33:25 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:33:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Net Reminders Message-ID: Sunday Sunday Sunday Not a race track ... get to know others that have Elecraft radios Zoom Zoom .. There is now an Elecraft Zoom "gathering" Join the Elecraft lovers for a Zoom QSO. No QRM, QRN, everyone 40 over S9. This Sunday at 2000z. Potential topics: how you got into Ham Radio, what kind of work do you do (or did . . . ). Please put your call letters and name in the zoom window. The link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83067882424?pwd=RVdteld5bW53eWdxZ0FKQysvcWV6dz09 73, Carl, K8NU The Elecraft Nets ---------------------------------- 20 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday 14.3035 +/- kHz at 1800Z *Please take note of time change * 40 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday 7.280 kHz at 19:000z 20 Meter CW Elecraft Net Sunday 14.050.5 kHz at 2200z: 40 Meter CW Elecraft Net Sunday 7.047.5 kHz at 0000z: *Please take note of frequency change * 80 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday Night 3.942+/- at 01:00z Hope to "hear" you Put a copy up in your shack Paul KB9AVO From clawsoncw at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 20:46:03 2020 From: clawsoncw at gmail.com (Carl Clawson) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:46:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 with a straight key. In-Reply-To: References: <8072F7E4-349A-4ABC-A2BE-4ADF98CB35D8@hxcore.ol> Message-ID: My spidey sense tells me to mention that you have to use a stereo plug into the KX3. 73, Carl WS7L On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 8:02 AM rich hurd WC3T wrote: > Either a very pithy post, or HTML. :) > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 08:39 Ian Pryke wrote: > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us > > > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: > *FN20is* > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clawsoncw at gmail.com From clark.macaulay at gmail.com Sat Aug 8 21:34:20 2020 From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (Clark Macaulay) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 21:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo In-Reply-To: References: <3355B872-ABD4-4709-BED0-D12D57D7738B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wayne, As a person with an enginneering background (never used), I really enjoyed your talk this afternoon. I dialed in about mid-way through the 3D talk and wonder if you mentioned the walking stick and binoculars behind you. Methinks you like the out-of-doors for more than radio. The best part of the talk was when you said "Elecraft makes cool stuff". Yes indeed as my K1, K2, KX1 and K3 attest. I've resisted the KX2 so far as I do don't much adventure radio, but then it is so cool.... On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:51 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > My pleasure, Grant. First Zoom presentation for me. I wasn't sure how the > content (3D model tour) would go over, but the attendees turned out to be > quite enthusiastic. The part I wasn't worried about was stage fright (year > of playing guitar for large crowds, solo :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Grant Youngman > wrote: > > > > If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow. > > > > Great presentation!!! Thanks, Wayne ?. > > > > Grant NQ5T > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macaulay at gmail.com -- 73, Clark, WU4B Little Pistol With Wires QRPARCI #10815 SKCC #3892 NAQCC #5055 CWOPS #1869 Collins Collectors #AC90-12432 Southeastern DX Club North Georgia QRP Club *"It is vain to do with more what can be done with less."* *Attributed to *William of Occam (1288 AD - 1348 AD) From kevinr at coho.net Sun Aug 9 00:22:28 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 21:22:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: Good Evening, ?? It has been well over a week since we have had a blank sun. Much better than the last year.? Maybe things are looking up. There was some radiation from a flare but no CME will arrive. Sunspot AR2770 is pointing at us so you never know. ? There are some signs of fall.? A few of the shrubs are starting to turn color.? I'm seeing a change in the bird population too. Luckily I have a lot of wood ready to collect.? It may be a cold, snowy winter. ?? I haven't found the best time for the forty meter net. Propagation was better with last week's time change but let's try it another 15 minutes later.? The QSB may settle down, with a few more long distance signals.? As the sun moves south I'll move the time earlier. Please join us on (or near): 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) ?? 73, ????? Kevin. KD5ONS _ VOICE (phone voice) I, uh, wanna order a pizza to go and no anchovies... NICK No anchovies? You've got the wrong man, I spell my name...Danger. (phone hangup) VOICE (phone voice) What? From jcjglt at lagoon.nc Sun Aug 9 02:33:59 2020 From: jcjglt at lagoon.nc (jcjglt at lagoon.nc) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:33:59 +1100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations Message-ID: <2c0e0dff-0277-6e6d-b484-48b0a3f3d739@lagoon.nc> I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ? From jcjglt at lagoon.nc Sun Aug 9 03:12:36 2020 From: jcjglt at lagoon.nc (jcjglt at lagoon.nc) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:12:36 +1100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations In-Reply-To: <2c0e0dff-0277-6e6d-b484-48b0a3f3d739@lagoon.nc> References: <2c0e0dff-0277-6e6d-b484-48b0a3f3d739@lagoon.nc> Message-ID: I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ? Best 73s, Pierre - FK8IH From mails at qrp4fun.de Sun Aug 9 03:29:49 2020 From: mails at qrp4fun.de (Ingo Meyer, DK3RED) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 09:29:49 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations In-Reply-To: References: <2c0e0dff-0277-6e6d-b484-48b0a3f3d739@lagoon.nc> Message-ID: <01904938-ecce-934f-f3af-aec78ce972c8@qrp4fun.de> Bonjour Pierre, > I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this > transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used > like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a > transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ? Yes, it is possible with a K2. But I don't know any reason why a ham radio operator should send outside the frequencies that are reserved for us. 73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power! www.qrp4fun.de - dk3red at qrp4fun.de From k4pxjoe at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 08:13:55 2020 From: k4pxjoe at gmail.com (K4PX K4PX) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 08:13:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio settings Message-ID: I acquired a Heil Proset with HC-5 element to use with my K3. What TX audio settings can you recommend for this set? Thanks! Joe K4PX From kz5d.arts at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 09:35:13 2020 From: kz5d.arts at gmail.com (Art Suberbielle) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 08:35:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo Message-ID: Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. But no mention there of the big question. 73, Art KZ5D From hs0zed at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 09:43:33 2020 From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:43:33 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First ones end of August. Apparently Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Aug 2020, at 16:37, Art Suberbielle wrote: > > ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? > > I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft > booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. > But no mention there of the big question. > > 73, > Art KZ5D > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com From radiok4ia at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 10:04:31 2020 From: radiok4ia at gmail.com (Buck) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:04:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <135cdf0a-c6d3-db81-4202-76562729a709@Gmail.com> I didn't hear anything about delivery in the presentation. k4ia, Buck K3s# 11497 Honor Roll 8B DXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 8/9/2020 9:43 AM, Martin Sole wrote: > First ones end of August. Apparently > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 9 Aug 2020, at 16:37, Art Suberbielle wrote: >> >> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >> >> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >> But no mention there of the big question. >> >> 73, >> Art KZ5D >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com > From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 10:10:53 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 10:10:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <135cdf0a-c6d3-db81-4202-76562729a709@Gmail.com> References: <135cdf0a-c6d3-db81-4202-76562729a709@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C182B30-B981-4489-BF1D-BE0958BC2E1A@gmail.com> That announcement was made in the Zoom Q&A that followed, and during the 2nd Zoom K4 presentation Eric gave later in the afternoon. It sounded like it might be well into or end of October to get the entire first order group out the door, give or take. Partly dependent on supply chain, partly dependent on how COVID impacts go, etc. Probably best to let the chickens hatch before trying to count them. But it sure will be good news when the first production K4 ships ? even though I?m too late in the list to have my address on that one. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Buck wrote: > > I didn't hear anything about delivery in the presentation. > > k4ia, Buck > K3s# 11497 > Honor Roll 8B DXCC > EasyWayHamBooks.com > > On 8/9/2020 9:43 AM, Martin Sole wrote: >> First ones end of August. Apparently >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 9 Aug 2020, at 16:37, Art Suberbielle wrote: >>> >>> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >>> >>> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >>> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >>> But no mention there of the big question. >>> >>> 73, >>> Art KZ5D >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com From n3wm at yahoo.com Sun Aug 9 10:47:58 2020 From: n3wm at yahoo.com (Bill Mellema) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 14:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <5C182B30-B981-4489-BF1D-BE0958BC2E1A@gmail.com> References: <135cdf0a-c6d3-db81-4202-76562729a709@Gmail.com> <5C182B30-B981-4489-BF1D-BE0958BC2E1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1519529490.2125041.1596984478493@mail.yahoo.com> Guys, There is a new K4 video on YouTube by Eric from yesterday.....link 21st Century Transceiver Design: The K4 High Performance Direct Sampling SDR | | | | | | | | | | | 21st Century Transceiver Design: The K4 High Performance Direct Sampling... | | | It is very good IMO? ..however he does not discuss delivery... 73 Bill N3WM On Sunday, August 9, 2020, 10:14:30 AM EDT, Grant Youngman wrote: That announcement was made in the Zoom Q&A that followed, and during the 2nd Zoom K4 presentation Eric gave later in the afternoon. It sounded like it might be well into or end of October to get the entire first order group out the door, give or take.? Partly dependent on supply chain, partly dependent on how COVID impacts go, etc.? Probably best to let the chickens hatch before trying to count them. But it sure will be good news when the first production K4 ships ? even though I?m too late in the list to have my address on that one. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Buck wrote: > > I didn't hear anything about delivery in the presentation. > > k4ia, Buck > K3s# 11497 > Honor Roll? 8B DXCC > EasyWayHamBooks.com > > On 8/9/2020 9:43 AM, Martin Sole wrote: >> First ones end of August. Apparently >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 9 Aug 2020, at 16:37, Art Suberbielle wrote: >>> >>> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >>> >>> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >>> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >>> But no mention there of the big question. >>> >>> 73, >>> Art KZ5D >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n3wm at yahoo.com From mike at ve3yf.com Sun Aug 9 10:52:02 2020 From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 14:52:02 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4b6cc075-a376-cd59-f9b8-ef32975ad335@ve3yf.com> Roughly End of August 2020 Plus the Elecraft Website has been updated to say "First Shipment targeted for end of August 2020" That is good news on both fronts, but nothing about the final price of the K4, K4D etc, but that should come soon. -- *73 De Mike* *VE3YF _/http://www.ve3yf.com/_* From hs0zed at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 10:54:35 2020 From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:54:35 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <1519529490.2125041.1596984478493@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1519529490.2125041.1596984478493@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <622C4E49-7F8B-4AA6-9659-0091AF581DE5@gmail.com> Eric mentioned it in the Q&A session that followed, he said first batches would likely be end of this month with sporadic shipping based on materials availability from then until they can achieve regular shipping. Martin, HS0ZED Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Aug 2020, at 17:49, Bill Mellema via Elecraft wrote: > > ? Guys, > There is a new K4 video on YouTube by Eric from yesterday.....link 21st Century Transceiver Design: The K4 High Performance Direct Sampling SDR > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > 21st Century Transceiver Design: The K4 High Performance Direct Sampling... > > > | > > | > > | > > It is very good IMO ..however he does not discuss delivery... > 73 > Bill N3WM > > > On Sunday, August 9, 2020, 10:14:30 AM EDT, Grant Youngman wrote: > > That announcement was made in the Zoom Q&A that followed, and during the 2nd Zoom K4 presentation Eric gave later in the afternoon. > > It sounded like it might be well into or end of October to get the entire first order group out the door, give or take. Partly dependent on supply chain, partly dependent on how COVID impacts go, etc. Probably best to let the chickens hatch before trying to count them. > > But it sure will be good news when the first production K4 ships ? even though I?m too late in the list to have my address on that one. > > Grant NQ5T > > >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Buck wrote: >> >> I didn't hear anything about delivery in the presentation. >> >> k4ia, Buck >> K3s# 11497 >> Honor Roll 8B DXCC >> EasyWayHamBooks.com >> >>> On 8/9/2020 9:43 AM, Martin Sole wrote: >>> First ones end of August. Apparently >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On 9 Aug 2020, at 16:37, Art Suberbielle wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >>>> >>>> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >>>> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >>>> But no mention there of the big question. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Art KZ5D >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n3wm at yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun Aug 9 11:44:53 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 08:44:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-line design talk (with KX2 3D model tour) at 2030 Z (1:30 PM Pacific) Message-ID: Hi all, Just a reminder...if you're interested in our KX-line design discussion and missed it yesterday, you can catch the repeat performance today at 1:30 PM Pacific (2030 Z). I'll be discussing the 3D modeling process while building a virtual KX2 from the ground [plug] up. Afterwards, I'll demo real-time data communications between a KX3 and KX2, as well as deployment of the AX1 whip antenna system. We'll be doing Q&A throughout. My very knowledgeable co-host, Doug Nathan (KC6PLN) will be fielding the questions. If you haven't registered for the Expo yet, no problem. Just visit qsotoday.vfairs.com (it's free). Once you navigate to the Elecraft booth, click on the "Booth Times and Demo Schedule" link. Please drop by our booth and say hi. The first day of the expo was a real hit, and we'd love to see you there. 73, Wayne N6KR From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun Aug 9 12:32:44 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 09:32:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/9/2020 6:35 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote: > Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? Hi Art, It's all governed by what they can do during COVID. including what they can get from their vendors. 73, Jim K9YC From jstengrevics at comcast.net Sun Aug 9 13:09:41 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (Jstengrevics) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:09:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wayne seemed to say that noise reduction would be effective on digital modes as well as CW & SSB. Do I have that correct? John WA1EAZ Sent from my iPad > On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > ?On 8/9/2020 6:35 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote: >> Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? > > Hi Art, > > It's all governed by what they can do during COVID. including what they can get from their vendors. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jstengrevics at comcast.net From jstengrevics at comcast.net Sun Aug 9 13:22:27 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:22:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <555d96c9-3c35-33b5-b3f3-098babf69c7a@gmail.com> References: <555d96c9-3c35-33b5-b3f3-098babf69c7a@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don?t have an extremely noisy QTH, but noisy enough that it keeps me from successfully working EME on 6 meters with my K3S. So, effective noise reduction on digital modes could be a game changer for me. John WA1EAZ Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > > ?Eric said the same in the K4 demonstration video. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >> On 09/08/2020 20:09, Jstengrevics wrote: >> Wayne seemed to say that noise reduction would be effective on digital modes as well as CW & SSB. Do I have that correct? >> John >> WA1EAZ >> Sent from my iPad >>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> >>> ?On 8/9/2020 6:35 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote: >>>> Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >>> >>> Hi Art, >>> >>> It's all governed by what they can do during COVID. including what they can get from their vendors. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to jstengrevics at comcast.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From forums at david-woolley.me.uk Sun Aug 9 13:45:32 2020 From: forums at david-woolley.me.uk (David Woolley) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:45:32 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations In-Reply-To: <01904938-ecce-934f-f3af-aec78ce972c8@qrp4fun.de> References: <2c0e0dff-0277-6e6d-b484-48b0a3f3d739@lagoon.nc> <01904938-ecce-934f-f3af-aec78ce972c8@qrp4fun.de> Message-ID: <2277299d-8711-0a04-6b8f-b4084cbd83b1@david-woolley.me.uk> I don't believe there is any ability to frequency restrict the K2. It's essentially a bag of components, and most countries allow licensed amateurs to home construct from components, and applying hard limits in such cases would be difficult. On 09/08/2020 08:29, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote: > Yes, it is possible with a K2. But I don't know any reason why a ham > radio operator should send outside the frequencies that are reserved for > us. From w1srd at yahoo.com Sun Aug 9 14:27:46 2020 From: w1srd at yahoo.com (Steve Dyer W1SRD) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 11:27:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Much Better Than Spectrogram References: Message-ID: Just watched Dave's video on the Classic Line from yesterday and the question of filter alignment software came up. I found what I think is a far better program than Spectrogram for K2 filter alignment. Have a look at Friture. (www.friture.org) It's currently under development, has more features, runs on all platforms and is open source. All good. 73, Steve W1SRD From radio at disseminator.net Sun Aug 9 14:41:13 2020 From: radio at disseminator.net (Dave Erickson) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:41:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio settings In-Reply-To: References: <75f5f43e-e19d-169c-fd6f-94beeb0f25e1@disseminator.net> Message-ID: On 8/9/2020 1:08 PM, K4PX K4PX wrote: > Thanks Dave! > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 12:54 PM Dave Erickson > wrote: > > On 8/9/2020 7:13 AM, K4PX K4PX wrote: > > I acquired a Heil Proset with HC-5 element to use with my K3.? > What TX > > audio settings can you recommend for this set?? Thanks! > > Joe > > K4PX > > Hey Joe, > > I'd start here: > https://heilsound.com/heil-amateur-radio/support/dsp-settings/all-things-elecraft/ > Joe, NP, glad it helped. -- Dave Erickson k0dom 73 From wunder at wunderwood.org Sun Aug 9 15:35:36 2020 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 12:35:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87526314-12B6-49F6-B21D-C180181666BE@wunderwood.org> A few years ago, I collected all the TX EQ recommendations from this list and chose the majority opinion (also the one most based on facts about the human voice). I collected that in this blog post. The title says ?KX3?, but the recommendations came from K3 users. https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:13 AM, K4PX K4PX wrote: > > I acquired a Heil Proset with HC-5 element to use with my K3. What TX > audio settings can you recommend for this set? Thanks! > Joe > K4PX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From eric at elecraft.com Sun Aug 9 15:37:56 2020 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 12:37:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <1519529490.2125041.1596984478493@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1519529490.2125041.1596984478493@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here is what we havebeen saying at the show, and if its not ther already, on the website: ?We are still targeting first K4 Shipments by the end of August, with production ramping up in September through year end. Please be patient during this period as we navigate both supply chain delays and the normal production delays as we optimize product flow. ? 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 9, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Bill Mellema via Elecraft wrote: > > ? Guys, > There is a new K4 video on YouTube by Eric from yesterday.....link 21st Century Transceiver Design: The K4 High Performance Direct Sampling SDR > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > 21st Century Transceiver Design: The K4 High Performance Direct Sampling... > > > | > > | > > | > > It is very good IMO ..however he does not discuss delivery... > 73 > Bill N3WM > > > On Sunday, August 9, 2020, 10:14:30 AM EDT, Grant Youngman wrote: > > That announcement was made in the Zoom Q&A that followed, and during the 2nd Zoom K4 presentation Eric gave later in the afternoon. > > It sounded like it might be well into or end of October to get the entire first order group out the door, give or take. Partly dependent on supply chain, partly dependent on how COVID impacts go, etc. Probably best to let the chickens hatch before trying to count them. > > But it sure will be good news when the first production K4 ships ? even though I?m too late in the list to have my address on that one. > > Grant NQ5T > > >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Buck wrote: >> >> I didn't hear anything about delivery in the presentation. >> >> k4ia, Buck >> K3s# 11497 >> Honor Roll 8B DXCC >> EasyWayHamBooks.com >> >>> On 8/9/2020 9:43 AM, Martin Sole wrote: >>> First ones end of August. Apparently >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On 9 Aug 2020, at 16:37, Art Suberbielle wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >>>> >>>> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >>>> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >>>> But no mention there of the big question. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Art KZ5D >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to radiok4ia at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n3wm at yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From eric at elecraft.com Sun Aug 9 15:46:25 2020 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 12:46:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio settings In-Reply-To: <87526314-12B6-49F6-B21D-C180181666BE@wunderwood.org> References: <87526314-12B6-49F6-B21D-C180181666BE@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <09AD5D5C-085A-4F24-9BDF-F1CC074ECAB3@elecraft.com> I also use the HC-5 Heil element with my K3S. It has a lower gain than most dynamic mics, so set the MIC SEL menu item to FP H in the menu. (Front Panel, high gain preamp on). If you are using the rear panel mic jack, set the menu to RP H. Set mic gain so that you are peaking 3-5 bars on the ALC meter when talking. I usually talk close to the mic (Within 1? or less) for best audio quality. With my voice I run the TX EQ flat as the HC-5 already shapes the audio. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > ?A few years ago, I collected all the TX EQ recommendations from this list and chose the majority opinion (also the one most based on facts about the human voice). I collected that in this blog post. The title says ?KX3?, but the recommendations came from K3 users. > > https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/ > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:13 AM, K4PX K4PX wrote: >> >> I acquired a Heil Proset with HC-5 element to use with my K3. What TX >> audio settings can you recommend for this set? Thanks! >> Joe >> K4PX >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From donovanf at erols.com Sun Aug 9 16:11:12 2020 From: donovanf at erols.com (donovanf at erols.com) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] Audio settings In-Reply-To: <09AD5D5C-085A-4F24-9BDF-F1CC074ECAB3@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <2011295541.6883276.1597003872760.JavaMail.root@starpower.net> Hi Eric, The K3 Owners Manual states: "While speaking into the microphone in a normal voice, adjust MIC for a peak ALC meter indication of about 5-7 bars." My understanding is that ALC begins with the fifth bar just flickering. Does Elecraft now recommend that minimal ALC rather than the K3 Owners Manual recommended 5-7 bars that I and many other K3 owners have used for years? Thanks. 73 Frank W3LPL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Swartz" To: "Walter Underwood" Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 7:46:25 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio settings I also use the HC-5 Heil element with my K3S. It has a lower gain than most dynamic mics, so set the MIC SEL menu item to FP H in the menu. (Front Panel, high gain preamp on). If you are using the rear panel mic jack, set the menu to RP H. Set mic gain so that you are peaking 3-5 bars on the ALC meter when talking. I usually talk close to the mic (Within 1? or less) for best audio quality. With my voice I run the TX EQ flat as the HC-5 already shapes the audio. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > A few years ago, I collected all the TX EQ recommendations from this list and chose the majority opinion (also the one most based on facts about the human voice). I collected that in this blog post. The title says ?KX3?, but the recommendations came from K3 users. > > https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/ > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:13 AM, K4PX K4PX wrote: >> >> I acquired a Heil Proset with HC-5 element to use with my K3. What TX >> audio settings can you recommend for this set? Thanks! >> Joe >> K4PX >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donovanf at starpower.net From mongoose1951 at googlemail.com Sun Aug 9 16:17:10 2020 From: mongoose1951 at googlemail.com (Ron Bell) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:17:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep both at proper angle and manage the wires? From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 9 17:09:18 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:09:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95A2C675-8D06-4FD8-B2BE-0233261C3C3E@widomaker.com> No mention in his talk. Everything else still says late August. The talk didn?t say anything we didn?t already know. I was disappointed. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote: > > ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? > > I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft > booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. > But no mention there of the big question. > > 73, > Art KZ5D > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 17:43:00 2020 From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (stephen shearer) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:43:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <95A2C675-8D06-4FD8-B2BE-0233261C3C3E@widomaker.com> References: <95A2C675-8D06-4FD8-B2BE-0233261C3C3E@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <06f8f7c9-760a-91f8-5c95-f72618abcbb2@gmail.com> He did answer the big Q in the Q/A after the scheduled talk. Start shipping late August. Quote: ?We are still targeting first K4 Shipments by the end of August, with production ramping up in September through year end. Please be patient during this period as we navigate both supply chain delays and the normal production delays as we optimize product flow. 73, Eric elecraft.com" The Q/A was well worth the time... nothing new, if "you" have been paying attention. (maybe to 10MHz standard, input) Neat to see, though. 73, steve WB3LGC On 8/9/20 5:09 PM, Nr4c wrote: > No mention in his talk. Everything else still says late August. The talk didn?t say anything we didn?t already know. I was disappointed. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote: >> >> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >> >> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >> But no mention there of the big question. >> >> 73, >> Art KZ5D >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com > From john_n1jm at outlook.com Sun Aug 9 17:59:41 2020 From: john_n1jm at outlook.com (John_N1JM) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 14:59:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted: KX3/PX3 Message-ID: <1597010381646-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Prefer a late serial number. Let me of any options with it. 73, John N1JM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From cbjesseeNH at comcast.net Sun Aug 9 18:13:23 2020 From: cbjesseeNH at comcast.net (cbjesseeNH at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 15:13:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Fixing a Winlink express, no audio input from K3S problem Message-ID: <1907235171.6822.1597011203236.JavaMail.administrator@n2.nabble.com> I thought this might be my problem but both VARA and ARDOP are allowed access. Might you be willing to share your Winlink configs for ARDOP and VARA HF? Bret/N4SRN I have Winlink Express running quite happily on a laptop, talking to a K3S thru the K3S?s USB cable. I configured Winlink Express on an older desktop, and it did not play with the same K3S - although the Winlink Express can (e.g., using VARA) transmit a signal; it ?hears? nothing. The USB Codec Microphone, which is how the K3S?s audio shows up on the PC, has sound - I can ?listen? to it using the Windows ability to listen to a sound input device. But, none of the Winlink Express modems running on the desktop can hear any audio. Oddly, FLDIGI works just fine on the laptop and the desktop. Finally, after some more poking around, I got it to work. The magic was to change the ?Allow apps to access your microphone? setting in the Sound settings page to On. This setting appears in the ?Microphone privacy settings? and I completely ignored it for more than a couple days! Go to Settings/Sound. Click on ?Microphone privacy settings?. Make sure ?Allow apps to access your microphone? is ?On?. Also, make sure the ?Allow desktop apps to access the microphone? setting further down this page is ?On?. This is what was preventing my Winlink Express app from working. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lists+1215531472858-365791 at n2.nabble.com Quoted from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Fixing-a-Winlink-express-no-audio-input-from-K3S-problem-tp7654449.html _____________________________________ Sent from http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 18:29:56 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:29:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo In-Reply-To: <06f8f7c9-760a-91f8-5c95-f72618abcbb2@gmail.com> References: <95A2C675-8D06-4FD8-B2BE-0233261C3C3E@widomaker.com> <06f8f7c9-760a-91f8-5c95-f72618abcbb2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Both of the 90 minute Zoom calls hosted by Eric were informative. There was a lot of information overlap, but there was something new in each of them. I haven?t heard whether these recorded Zoom calls will be available for playback or not, and if so, where they?ll be posted. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:43 PM, stephen shearer wrote: > > He did answer the big Q in the Q/A after the scheduled talk. Start shipping late August. Quote: ?We are still targeting first K4 Shipments by the end of August, with production ramping up in September through year end. Please be patient during this period as we navigate both supply chain delays and the normal production delays as we optimize product flow. 73, Eric elecraft.com" > > The Q/A was well worth the time... nothing new, if "you" have been paying attention. (maybe to 10MHz standard, input) Neat to see, though. > > 73, steve WB3LGC > > > On 8/9/20 5:09 PM, Nr4c wrote: >> No mention in his talk. Everything else still says late August. The talk didn?t say anything we didn?t already know. I was disappointed. >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote: >>> >>> ?Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4? >>> >>> I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft >>> booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video. >>> But no mention there of the big question. >>> From w6sx at arrl.net Sun Aug 9 18:55:24 2020 From: w6sx at arrl.net (Hank Garretson) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 22:55:24 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Message-ID: Windows 10. P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 Connects to my P3 just fine. When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are grayed out. Help please. What am I doing wrong. Ham, Cope Exuberantly, Hank, W6SX From cyaffey at columbus.rr.com Sun Aug 9 18:58:24 2020 From: cyaffey at columbus.rr.com (Carl Yaffey) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:58:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Zoom meeting Message-ID: <3C4BDFCC-8ACA-4B98-A5FE-FF43DE4BA76C@columbus.rr.com> Here is a screen shot of today?s Zoom get together. We meet on Sunday at 2000z. The participants are mostly folks who check into the SSB nets. I can send you the link if you email me. Carl, K8NU, cyaffey at gmail.com https://www.dropbox.com/s/5x93y5d0uw944j9/Screen%20Shot%202020-08-09%20at%205.16.48%20PM.png?dl=0 From tchrme at aol.com Sun Aug 9 18:59:42 2020 From: tchrme at aol.com (Mike Lichtman) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 15:59:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Wayne and Eric's Presentations References: <580A5005-5D2C-420D-B614-2CAD5884F8DE.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <580A5005-5D2C-420D-B614-2CAD5884F8DE@aol.com> Congratulations on a great job. I thoroughly enjoyed both your presentations. I plan on purchasing a K4 after the dust settles so I was fascinated by how much higher this radio will ?move the bar?. 73 Mike KF6KXG From ve7day at telus.net Sun Aug 9 19:03:53 2020 From: ve7day at telus.net (John) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:03:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Make sure your com port is not in use by something else. On 09/08/2020 3:55 p.m., Hank Garretson wrote: > Windows 10. > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are grayed > out. > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > Hank, W6SX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ve7day at telus.net From dick at elecraft.com Sun Aug 9 19:10:33 2020 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:10:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001301d66ea2$48943c80$d9bcb580$@elecraft.com> Click "Test communications" on the Port tab to verify the P3 connection. The config buttons are disabled if the P3 Utility doesn't think it's connected to a P3. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Hank Garretson Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 15:55 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Windows 10. P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 Connects to my P3 just fine. When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are grayed out. Help please. What am I doing wrong. Ham, Cope Exuberantly, Hank, W6SX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From w6sx at arrl.net Sun Aug 9 19:18:27 2020 From: w6sx at arrl.net (Hank Garretson) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:18:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: <001301d66ea2$48943c80$d9bcb580$@elecraft.com> References: <001301d66ea2$48943c80$d9bcb580$@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Have done that. It tells me I am connected. No other programs are using the port. Configuration: K3 >> P3 >> Port 10. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 4:10 PM Dick Dievendorff wrote: > Click "Test communications" on the Port tab to verify the P3 connection. > The config buttons are disabled if the P3 Utility doesn't think it's > connected to a P3. > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > On > Behalf Of Hank Garretson > Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 15:55 > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please > > Windows 10. > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are grayed > out. > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > Hank, W6SX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to dick at elecraft.com > > From marklgoldberg at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 19:56:30 2020 From: marklgoldberg at gmail.com (Mark Goldberg) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:56:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See the bottom of this page: https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ 73, Mark W7MLG On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft wrote: > > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com From mails at qrp4fun.de Sun Aug 9 20:02:02 2020 From: mails at qrp4fun.de (Ingo Meyer, DK3RED) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 02:02:02 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations (correction) In-Reply-To: References: <2c0e0dff-0277-6e6d-b484-48b0a3f3d739@lagoon.nc> Message-ID: Bonjour Pierre, David put the finger on the right point, because my answer was not complete. Thank you! > I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this > transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used > like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a > transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ? You put two question in your mail. So here are both answers. No, it is not possible to restrict the K2 transmitting frequence during the building process, neither by hardware nor by software. And yes, it is possible to transmit with a K2 outside the ham radio bands all times. But I don't know any reason why a ham radio operator should send outside the frequencies that are reserved for us. And to restrict the frequence area in a ham radio band makes also no sence to me, if you are a ham radio operator. 73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power! www.qrp4fun.de - dk3red at qrp4fun.de From k7sss at aol.com Sun Aug 9 20:13:14 2020 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 00:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <525289536.1648208.1597018394327@mail.yahoo.com> Hi,Try No Georgia Qrp club. www.nogaqrp.org. Nice stand to stack a KX3 and a PX3.73JIm H? ?k7sss?In a message dated 8/9/2020 1:20:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, elecraft at mailman.qth.net writes:? Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keepboth at proper angle and manage the wires??______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net?This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com From w6png at yahoo.com Sun Aug 9 20:17:27 2020 From: w6png at yahoo.com (Paul Gacek) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:17:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92DD1B76-FBBF-47D2-85F8-99675D79E567@yahoo.com> Here is one I built using generally available parts. It?s buried but obvious in this blog post of mine. https://nomadic.blog/2020/05/08/of-cannons-beer-and-paradise/ Paul > On Aug 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote: > > ?Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See > the bottom of this page: > > https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft >> wrote: >> >> Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep >> both at proper angle and manage the wires? >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6png at yahoo.com From rich at wc3t.us Sun Aug 9 20:21:36 2020 From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:21:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: <525289536.1648208.1597018394327@mail.yahoo.com> References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> <525289536.1648208.1597018394327@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I second the NoGaQrp stand. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 20:13 Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > Hi,Try No Georgia Qrp club. www.nogaqrp.org. Nice stand to stack a KX3 > and a PX3.73JIm H k7sss In a message dated 8/9/2020 1:20:13 PM Pacific > Standard Time, elecraft at mailman.qth.net writes: > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would > keepboth at proper angle and manage the > wires? ______________________________________________________________Elecraft > mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This > list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* From cq.k7ksg at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 20:26:28 2020 From: cq.k7ksg at gmail.com (Keith Gordon) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:26:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 Message-ID: Simmer down. I own Elecraft gear and am getting more. For an ARES Go Box idea I'm enamoured with the idea of an IC705 mated to an Elecraft 100W amp with tuner. Gives me single cord connection digital on HF, VHF & UHF and good old CW and SSB as well. What do we know about mating the KPA100 to the IC705? 73s, Keith S Gordon From clark.macaulay at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 20:46:50 2020 From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (Clark Macaulay) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Checkout www.nogaqrp.org. Clark, WU4B On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:58 PM Mark Goldberg wrote: > Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See > the bottom of this page: > > https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft > wrote: > > > > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macaulay at gmail.com > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From N8WL at ARRL.NET Sun Aug 9 21:41:00 2020 From: N8WL at ARRL.NET (N8WL) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:41:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K1-4 w/ATU, backlight mod, and wire tilt bail Message-ID: <1597023660940-0.post@n2.nabble.com> For Sale: Elecraft K1 Portable QRP CW Transceiver, S/N 3225. I am the original builder and owner of this pristine unit, which was factory aligned and improved by Don W. and has worked perfectly ever since. This unit includes the KFL1-4 board for four bands: 40, 30, 20 and 15, includes the KAT1 internal ATU, and includes the K1BKLTKIT-X backlight mod. It also includes a wire tilt bail secured by thumbscrews. It has always been stored and protected from scratches inside a Ziploc bag, and I live in a non-smoking, pet-free home. It?s a great portable rig, but I have a KX3 and I?ve decided to sell this one, so I?m looking for a good home for it! $475, via PayPal only, and includes manuals, original correspondence, free shipping and insurance to CONUS. N8WL -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 22:07:19 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 22:07:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depends on what ICOM lets the IC705 do with other equipment. I saw the 1st IC705 and was less than impressed.. AND then they took it back in and rebuilt it because it was not going to fly. I still prize my KX3 for it versatility Paul KB9AVO KX3 #24 KXPA100 #22 On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 8:28 PM Keith Gordon wrote: > Simmer down. I own Elecraft gear and am getting more. > > For an ARES Go Box idea I'm enamoured with the idea of an IC705 mated to an > Elecraft 100W amp with tuner. > > Gives me single cord connection digital on HF, VHF & UHF and good old CW > and SSB as well. > > What do we know about mating the KPA100 to the IC705? > > 73s, Keith S Gordon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 9 22:16:04 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 22:16:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21ADBB8B-12BB-45B3-B32F-D47F61F97C14@widomaker.com> Might try re-booting your computer. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > ?Windows 10. > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are grayed > out. > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > Hank, W6SX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From w6sx at arrl.net Sun Aug 9 23:10:03 2020 From: w6sx at arrl.net (Hank Garretson) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:10:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: <21ADBB8B-12BB-45B3-B32F-D47F61F97C14@widomaker.com> References: <21ADBB8B-12BB-45B3-B32F-D47F61F97C14@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Thanks Bill. Always a good suggestion, but didn't help. Port, Firmware, Command Tester, and Capture Image tabs all work as expected. Configuration tab has Save P3 Configuration and Restore P3 Configuration grayed out. 73, Hank, W6SX On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Nr4c wrote: > Might try re-booting your computer. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > > > ?Windows 10. > > > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are > grayed > > out. > > > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > > > Hank, W6SX > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > From gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com Sun Aug 9 23:16:13 2020 From: gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com (George Thornton) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:16:13 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: <21ADBB8B-12BB-45B3-B32F-D47F61F97C14@widomaker.com> Message-ID: When something strange like this happens another step to try is to refresh the firmware in the radio. -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Hank Garretson Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 8:10 PM To: Nr4c Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Thanks Bill. Always a good suggestion, but didn't help. Port, Firmware, Command Tester, and Capture Image tabs all work as expected. Configuration tab has Save P3 Configuration and Restore P3 Configuration grayed out. 73, Hank, W6SX On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Nr4c wrote: > Might try re-booting your computer. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > > > ?Windows 10. > > > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are > grayed > > out. > > > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > > > Hank, W6SX > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > nr4c at widomaker.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 9 23:41:00 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 23:41:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First off, the amp and tuner aren?t going to help you on 2 Meters or 70 CM. And you're going to need a full 12 Volts at 20 Amps to power the combo. You might as well use a 7300 and a dual band mobile. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Keith Gordon wrote: > > ?Simmer down. I own Elecraft gear and am getting more. > > For an ARES Go Box idea I'm enamoured with the idea of an IC705 mated to an > Elecraft 100W amp with tuner. > > Gives me single cord connection digital on HF, VHF & UHF and good old CW > and SSB as well. > > What do we know about mating the KPA100 to the IC705? > > 73s, Keith S Gordon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From kevinr at coho.net Mon Aug 10 00:25:19 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:25:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: <34ef9806-420f-40b9-cd89-6d3c75f39c12@coho.net> Good Evening, ? Both bands had summer storm noise and QSB.? Signals were strong though and easy to copy.? The biggest problem was separating the calls out from one long howl.? I think I copied "howl TX9V" at one point which works out to K4TO, K6XK, and AB9V respectively.? Then I worked AK back to back with GA.? I like my new antenna.? Ken said he was on a vertical which could hear me better.? The doublet picked up a lot more noise and less signal so I used it very little. ?? On forty meters KC1ACL checked at least four times, each of them QRP.? QSB went from ESP to S7 on some of you.? Normally QSB acts like a sine wave.? But today some of you had QSB which acted like a square wave.? Your signal was on and then off again with no signs of fading or strengthening.? Just on and off.? We seemed to have found the time when 40 meters wakes up then settles down a little.? I'll leave the 40 m net time at 0045z for a few weeks and see how the band changes as the sun moves. ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z: W0CZ - Ken - ND K6XK - Roy - IA AB9V - Mike - IN KL7CW - Rick - AK K4JPN - Steve - GA ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0045z: KC1ACL - Steven - NM W0CZ - Ken - ND K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6PJV - Dale - CA WM5F - Dwight - ID ? Today the wind was pruning the fir trees.? The branches kept hitting the roof while I was on the air during the 20 meter net. The new vertical fits behind a large fir tree to my west.? It was out of the wind.? It should be protected from the flying branches.? But if it breaks it will be easy to fix. ? Until next week 73, ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS - NICK I headed down the hall in the opposite direction, toward the fire escape. I hadn't a moment to lose... LT. BRADSHAW Hey, Danger! Where's the fire? NICK In your eyes, Lieutenant Bradshaw. From dwightanderson at roadrunner.com Mon Aug 10 00:42:40 2020 From: dwightanderson at roadrunner.com (dwightanderson at roadrunner.com) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:42:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report In-Reply-To: <34ef9806-420f-40b9-cd89-6d3c75f39c12@coho.net> References: <34ef9806-420f-40b9-cd89-6d3c75f39c12@coho.net> Message-ID: <000201d66ed0$aebaa9d0$0c2ffd70$@roadrunner.com> Hello Kevin; Just saying thanks and I agree the QSB was crazy!!! I am wondering if you or others have tried to use APF on the Elecraft radio to pull out weaker CW signals from the noise. I've tried it a few times on my KX3 but wonder if I am setting it up correctly. I'm not sure it would have helped with the QSB as it was today. I'm wondering if anyone created a YouTube video on using APF to pull out weaker CW signals on a KX3? Thanks! Dwight WM5F Snip.... signal was on and then off again with no signs of fading or strengthening. Just on and off. We seemed to have found the time when 40 meters wakes up then settles down a little. I'll leave the 40 m net time at 0045z for a few weeks and see how the band changes as the sun moves. Kevin. KD5ONS - ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dwightanderson at roadrunner.com From k5wa at comcast.net Mon Aug 10 02:02:25 2020 From: k5wa at comcast.net (K5WA) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 01:02:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question Message-ID: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we?d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investment. I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) Semi-patiently waiting, ? Bob K5WA From k4to.dave at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 06:22:19 2020 From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:22:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report In-Reply-To: <000201d66ed0$aebaa9d0$0c2ffd70$@roadrunner.com> References: <34ef9806-420f-40b9-cd89-6d3c75f39c12@coho.net> <000201d66ed0$aebaa9d0$0c2ffd70$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: I heard nothing on 40M. 20M was good and QSB was only 2 S-units or so.; K4TO On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:43 AM wrote: > Hello Kevin; > > Just saying thanks and I agree the QSB was crazy!!! > > I am wondering if you or others have tried to use APF on the Elecraft > radio to pull out weaker CW signals from the noise. > I've tried it a few times on my KX3 but wonder if I am setting it up > correctly. I'm not sure it would have helped with the QSB as it was today. > > I'm wondering if anyone created a YouTube video on using APF to pull out > weaker CW signals on a KX3? > > Thanks! > Dwight > WM5F > > Snip.... signal was on and then off again with no signs of fading or > strengthening. Just on and off. We seemed to have found the time when > 40 meters wakes up then settles down a little. I'll leave the 40 m net > time at 0045z for a few weeks and see how the band changes as the sun moves. > > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > - > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dwightanderson at roadrunner.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4to at arrl.net > From wb4ooa at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 08:59:13 2020 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:59:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS W2 WATTMETER Message-ID: <000001d66f16$0d457df0$27d079d0$@gmail.com> W2 in Like new condition; surplus to my needs. Included: DCHF-2000 coupler; manual; and all cabling. $285 plus shipping. Like new condition; DCHF-2000 coupler also for sale. $175 plus shipping. PayPal preferred but checks also ok. Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line 704-843-3681 WB4OOA at gmail.com From gio.flynn at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 09:54:05 2020 From: gio.flynn at gmail.com (John Flynn) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: GiRls, You might also consider a power-splutter cable from ProAudio Engineering. 73, John K4ARQ On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 16:19 Ron Bell via Elecraft wrote: > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gio.flynn at gmail.com > From rocketnj at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 09:54:55 2020 From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:54:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question In-Reply-To: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> References: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob I?ll chime in. If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be ?burned at the stake?. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA wrote: > > ?After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we?d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investment. > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, ? > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rocketnj at gmail.com From w8fn at windstream.net Mon Aug 10 10:03:20 2020 From: w8fn at windstream.net (Randy Farmer) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:03:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Status Message-ID: <982ab8ed-4185-6ec7-f0f3-63ca90378491@windstream.net> I watched Eric's EXPO presentation on the K4 and also monitored the following Q&A session. The radio looks fantastic, and there may eventually be one in my future. What I found even more impressive, however, was Eric's total candor in response to questions on the delivery timeline. He carefully explained essentially everything that was going on at the company and how it was likely to impact the delivery schedule. This included frank assessments of potential supply chain problems and ongoing product development work. It's absolutely astonishing to me that a principal of a company would be willing to discuss such things in a public forum. I doubt you'd ever see representatives of the major Japanese radio companies come anywhere close to such disclosure. I don't know much about Flex, but I gather openness is not their strong suit, either. Wayne's talk on the KX2 mechanical engineering process was equally impressive. He laid out the intimate details of how they did the packaging. I've never seen such an in-depth presentation of the development of a product from any company. This far exceeded the detail that would occasionally be presented in the long-gone Hewlett-Packard journals. Those of you who think Elecraft is trying to conceal information on the K4 rollout owe it to yourselves to check out the recorded sessions when they become available online. They should allay any doubts you might have about whether or not you're being given the straight info from Elecraft. 73... Randy, W8FN From mikerosenberg at hotmail.com Mon Aug 10 10:32:49 2020 From: mikerosenberg at hotmail.com (Michael Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:32:49 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Check out M0TDZ's 3D printing KX3/PX3 stand customized with your call. http://chopcat.co.uk/blog-2/ From ve6wz at shaw.ca Mon Aug 10 10:52:47 2020 From: ve6wz at shaw.ca (VE6WZ_Steve) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:52:47 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question In-Reply-To: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> References: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8AB0F1F4-755F-45A6-96D7-30DC9270FBBE@shaw.ca> Bob, Regarding the remote capability of the K4 I heard the same thing. I specifically asked in the chat room if Elecraft currently has PC based user interface software to be used with a remote installation. The response from Wayne seems to indicate they do not. I also ordered the radio a year ago based on correspondence with Elecraft indicating they will have PC control software available at the time of delivery. The Elecraft response seems to be that there ?should be? a Win4K4 type software package available, and that RemoteHam software ?"should be able to control the radio?. My expectation was that there would be PC based user interface software available that would substantially emulate the K4 front panel display with full waterfall and control functionality. I would expect some detail about the software, perhaps at least some screenshots and some communication from Elecraft that the software has been tested in the field. The silence from Elecraft on this topic seems to indicate such software is NOT available. Please understand I remain excited about adding the K4 to my remote to hopefully replace the K3s and maybe the Flex 6600, but since I will NEVER even see or touch the K4 when using it (it will be 100km away). I need to fully understand what the control software will look like since without it the radio is useless to me. To be clear, before I can accept delivery of the radio, I will need more than ?sure, there will be software available to control the radio?. Without specific and DETAIL information from Elecraft about this, I will need to cancel my order and request a refund and wait until the remote capabilities are developed in the future. 73, de steve VE6WZ. > After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. From ve3uvt at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 11:43:40 2020 From: ve3uvt at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:43:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 to Tentec 418 amplifier Message-ID: I recently acquired a KX2 and love it. I also have a Tentec 418 100W amplifier that I want to find a way to interface them for keying and band-changing. Keying seems easy and straightforward, but the question is if there is an easy way for band-changing. I appreciate it if you share how you have done this. Best 73, Chris KM1B From k7sss at aol.com Mon Aug 10 12:00:26 2020 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <355669954.1897900.1597075226759@mail.yahoo.com> Hi,I'd like to add the PAE power supply. Small, noise free.73??Jim H???k7sss?In a message dated 8/10/2020 6:57:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, gio.flynn at gmail.com writes:? GiRls, You might also consider a power-splutter cable from ProAudio Engineering. 73, John K4ARQ On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 16:19 Ron Bell via Elecraft wrote: > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gio.flynn at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k7sss at aol.com From bbaines at mac.com Mon Aug 10 12:12:45 2020 From: bbaines at mac.com (Barry Baines) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:12:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question In-Reply-To: <8AB0F1F4-755F-45A6-96D7-30DC9270FBBE@shaw.ca> References: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> <8AB0F1F4-755F-45A6-96D7-30DC9270FBBE@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <3FD8D48A-2537-48E4-9B4C-0B75B73BCE18@mac.com> Steve: > On Aug 10, 2020, at 10:52 AM, VE6WZ_Steve wrote: > > Bob, > > Regarding the remote capability of the K4 I heard the same thing. I specifically asked in the chat room if Elecraft currently has PC based user interface software to be used with a remote installation. The response from Wayne seems to indicate they do not. I also ordered the radio a year ago based on correspondence with Elecraft indicating they will have PC control software available at the time of delivery. > The Elecraft response seems to be that there ?should be? a Win4K4 type software package available, and that RemoteHam software ?"should be able to control the radio?. > My expectation was that there would be PC based user interface software available that would substantially emulate the K4 front panel display with full waterfall and control functionality. I would expect some detail about the software, perhaps at least some screenshots and some communication from Elecraft that the software has been tested in the field. The silence from Elecraft on this topic seems to indicate such software is NOT available. > > Please understand I remain excited about adding the K4 to my remote to hopefully replace the K3s and maybe the Flex 6600, but since I will NEVER even see or touch the K4 when using it (it will be 100km away). I need to fully understand what the control software will look like since without it the radio is useless to me. > > To be clear, before I can accept delivery of the radio, I will need more than ?sure, there will be software available to control the radio?. > Without specific and DETAIL information from Elecraft about this, I will need to cancel my order and request a refund and wait until the remote capabilities are developed in the future. I?m certainly sympathetic with your position given the critical importance of remote operation to you. Back in August 2012 I signed on for the Flex-6700 based on the ethernet connection providing remote operation as was touted when the product was announced at the 2012 Hamvention and the closeout of the special introductory pricing was in August 2012. SmartSDR was to provide not only remote operation, but full functionality of the panadapter/waterfall display which is a feature that no other manufacturer was promising for remote operation. The Flex-6700 was delivered to me in November 2013 at installed at my ham station in SE Georgia. The initial software package was woefully inadequate and though the following SmartSDR software updates through version 1.xx provided enhanced capabilities, it wasn?t until version 2 was announced in May 2017 with the introduction of ?SmartLINK? that remote capability was added. Thus, it took five years from product feature announcement to product feature availability. Almost all of my operating is done remotely, so I ended up with a very expensive paperweight. At least I didn?t have to pay for the version 2 software upgrade given that I was an ?early adopter? where Flex recognized that those that made early commitments to the 6700 in 2012 were promised that feature. That said, I did end up ordering a K3-KPA500-KAT500-K3/I0 and Remote Rig 1258 package in August 2014 at the Huntsville Hamfest given the fact that at least Elecraft had a proven product line that could be operated remotely and I wasn?t getting any younger. This system has worked amazingly well for remote operation from my station location with limited DSL at the time (768K upload), particularly with the addition of the Remote Rig RC-1216H web-based controller for use with the KPA-500 and a second RC-1216H for the Green Heron rotor controller that allows me to observe/control these devices with any web browser. I later added the P3 for those times when I am in the shack. So for three years the Elecraft line was my sole means of operating remotely. I currently have 2MB upload/20 MB download which is good enough for remote use of SmarkSDR. Currently, I can work both systems independently through a 4O3A Antenna Genius where both systems have access to my antennas. The Flex system works well but I am limited by my DSL service as to how many panadapters/waterfall displays I can use. It is the panadapter capability that I miss in the K3 while running remotely. That said, the Elecraft is still my primary rig for use with my End Feed Half Wave antenna because the KAT500 can handle the KPA500. Flex/4O3A is yet to release the ?Tuner Genius? for use with the PGXL (announced in February 2017 and received in May 2018) that is part of the package that was promised to purchasers when I submitted my PGXL order in February 2017. It is an excellent amplifier, but the lack of the tuner significantly limits the amplifier?s utility for use only with my M-Squared yagi. Latest word (noted at the QSO Today Virtual Expo) is that the Tuner Genius is in Alpha Testing with the hope that it will be available by the end of the year. We?ll see. I don?t doubt for a second the desire of Elecraft to deliver on their vision of remote operation for the K4 as well as other capabilities. Like everyone else, they?re struggling with external circumstances beyond their control and it will be quite awhile before they are fully back to ?normal? (whatever that means). A new product release is incredibly complex and remote operation is likely a lower priority given the ?all hands on deck? on getting K4 out to customers. The question for those with deposits is whether they feel comfortable accepting a product that clearly has a path for future enhancement before those enhancements are available and the current product offering will at least meet a significant portion of their expectations. If I had been told by Flex that it would be five years before remote capability was actually introduced, I probably would not have made that deposit back in 2012? ;-) On the other hand, Elecraft?s proven record to date of producing product after initial product enhancement is certainly stronger that what I?ve experienced with Flex. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Roslindale, MA) > > 73, de steve VE6WZ. > > >> After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 12:26:01 2020 From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (stephen shearer) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:26:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <7899f70a-21cf-fba3-fd1c-9328a3bc3194@gmail.com> Nice install. I took the GEM mounts and plywood one more step. I used a ~12" round 3/4" plywood disk and mounted three RAM mounts; https://www.rammount.com/ . KX3, PX3 and Plastic "box". The box can hold audio ADC and CAT control or for picnic table OP's, and antenna. I am able to adjust KX3/PX3 angle and position for best OP... 73, steve WB3LGC On 8/9/20 7:56 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote: > Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See > the bottom of this page: > > https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft > wrote: >> >> Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep >> both at proper angle and manage the wires? >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com > . > From g7ltq at newgas.net Mon Aug 10 13:08:40 2020 From: g7ltq at newgas.net (John Newgas) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:08:40 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] re KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Ron Bell Asked : > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep both at proper angle and manage the wires? I made a nice and low cost stand using a Music Stand from Amazon like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0897TDWH9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_mXxmFb8V9KPQC I used a spare bit of wood left over from picture rail to add a second shelf above the KX3/PX3 combo to take a raspberry pi and a Microham USB. The power supply sits behind it it with a four way splitter. ( $6 from Amazon ) The Cables are neatly held in place with stick on Cable Supports. ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TXB9VLZ/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_r6xmFbQXPWWK7 ) You need to clean the wood with alcohol before trying to stick down the supports See a picture at https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.qrz.com/q/g7ltq/Station_running_with_headless_Pi.jpg I had to have system which was acceptable to look at as it runs in a corner of our living room. John G7LTQ/AG7VS From w2kj at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 10 13:25:37 2020 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:25:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX3 References: <146D1D33-05CD-4B94-8BAC-C925AEB5F11C.ref@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <146D1D33-05CD-4B94-8BAC-C925AEB5F11C@bellsouth.net> Howdy Gang. Testing the waters here for a KX3. I had a beauty but foolishly sold it and the KXPA100 amp. So, wondering if any one out there has a KX3 (s/n 10000 and up) they might consider selling. Unit should be in mint condition and fully operational?options are a plus. Many thanks for any info. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon Aug 10 13:35:53 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:35:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question In-Reply-To: References: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Indeed!? I'm old, been through this many times.? Regardless of what is causing problems: Don't publicize a release date because of uncertainties and the World will give you a thousand reasons why you are wrong and should have given a date. Publicize a release date and then miss it because of uncertainties and the the same World will criticize you a thousand times for missing the date. Adjust the design(s) to accommodate the uncertainties and make your release date, and the same World will criticize you a thousand times for all the missing design elements while waiting for the upgrades. Pre-assign serial numbers to pre-orders and publish them and the World will criticize you a thousand times when the production pace does not keep up with expectations.? When pre-orders cancel, the rest of the list will criticize you for not adjusting the serial number sequence so "they can get a lower number."? If you adjust the sequence, the rest of the list will criticize you because they now can't track production rates. Publish weekly reports detailing problems, progress or the lack thereof, and estimated release date and the World will have a thousand complaints about your lack of progress, missing the release date, and spelling, grammar, frequency, and content of your reports. Please post if you ever find a "win" in any of these scenarios, I never have. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/10/2020 6:54 AM, Dave wrote: > Bob > > I?ll chime in. > > If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be ?burned at the stake?. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. > > Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. > > Dave wo2x > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > >> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA wrote: >> >> ?After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. >> >> >> >> On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we?d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investment. >> >> >> >> I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) >> >> >> >> Semi-patiently waiting, ? >> >> >> >> Bob K5WA >> From ww4cm at live.com Mon Aug 10 13:45:48 2020 From: ww4cm at live.com (Charlie McGlaughn) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:45:48 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:57 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 12 Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to elecraft at mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (Mark Goldberg) 2. Re: K2 transmit limitations (correction) (Ingo Meyer, DK3RED) 3. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (k7sss at aol.com) 4. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (Paul Gacek) 5. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (rich hurd WC3T) 6. Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 (Keith Gordon) 7. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (Clark Macaulay) 8. For Sale: K1-4 w/ATU, backlight mod, and wire tilt bail (N8WL) 9. Re: Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 (Paul Van Dyke) 10. Re: P3 Utility Help Please (Nr4c) 11. Re: P3 Utility Help Please (Hank Garretson) 12. Re: P3 Utility Help Please (George Thornton) 13. Re: Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 (Nr4c) 14. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevinr) 15. Re: Elecraft CW Net Report (dwightanderson at roadrunner.com) 16. K4 remote software question (K5WA) 17. Re: Elecraft CW Net Report (Dave Sublette) 18. FS W2 WATTMETER (Ron Durie) 19. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (John Flynn) 20. Re: K4 remote software question (Dave) 21. K4 Status (Randy Farmer) 22. Re: KX3 PX3 desktop stand (Michael Rosenberg) 23. Re: K4 remote software question (VE6WZ_Steve) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:56:30 -0700 From: Mark Goldberg To: Ron Bell Cc: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See the bottom of this page: https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ 73, Mark W7MLG On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft wrote: > > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 02:02:02 +0200 From: "Ingo Meyer, DK3RED" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations (correction) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Bonjour Pierre, David put the finger on the right point, because my answer was not complete. Thank you! > I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this > transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used > like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a > transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ? You put two question in your mail. So here are both answers. No, it is not possible to restrict the K2 transmitting frequence during the building process, neither by hardware nor by software. And yes, it is possible to transmit with a K2 outside the ham radio bands all times. But I don't know any reason why a ham radio operator should send outside the frequencies that are reserved for us. And to restrict the frequence area in a ham radio band makes also no sence to me, if you are a ham radio operator. 73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power! www.qrp4fun.de - dk3red at qrp4fun.de ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 00:13:14 +0000 (UTC) From: To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: <525289536.1648208.1597018394327 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi,Try No Georgia Qrp club. www.nogaqrp.org. Nice stand to stack a KX3 and a PX3.73JIm H? ?k7sss?In a message dated 8/9/2020 1:20:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, elecraft at mailman.qth.net writes:? Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keepboth at proper angle and manage the wires??______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net?This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:17:27 -0700 From: Paul Gacek To: Mark Goldberg Cc: Elecraft Mailing List , Ron Bell Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: <92DD1B76-FBBF-47D2-85F8-99675D79E567 at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Here is one I built using generally available parts. It?s buried but obvious in this blog post of mine. https://nomadic.blog/2020/05/08/of-cannons-beer-and-paradise/ Paul > On Aug 9, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote: > > ?Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See > the bottom of this page: > > https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft >> wrote: >> >> Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep >> both at proper angle and manage the wires? >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6png at yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:21:36 -0400 From: rich hurd WC3T To: k7sss at aol.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I second the NoGaQrp stand. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 20:13 Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > Hi,Try No Georgia Qrp club. www.nogaqrp.org. Nice stand to stack a KX3 > and a PX3.73JIm H k7sss In a message dated 8/9/2020 1:20:13 PM Pacific > Standard Time, elecraft at mailman.qth.net writes: > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would > keepboth at proper angle and manage the > wires? ______________________________________________________________Elecraft > mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This > list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:26:28 -0700 From: Keith Gordon To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Simmer down. I own Elecraft gear and am getting more. For an ARES Go Box idea I'm enamoured with the idea of an IC705 mated to an Elecraft 100W amp with tuner. Gives me single cord connection digital on HF, VHF & UHF and good old CW and SSB as well. What do we know about mating the KPA100 to the IC705? 73s, Keith S Gordon ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:46:50 -0400 From: Clark Macaulay To: Mark Goldberg Cc: Elecraft Mailing List , Ron Bell Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Checkout www.nogaqrp.org. Clark, WU4B On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:58 PM Mark Goldberg wrote: > Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See > the bottom of this page: > > https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/ > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft > wrote: > > > > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to marklgoldberg at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macaulay at gmail.com > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:41:00 -0700 (MST) From: N8WL To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K1-4 w/ATU, backlight mod, and wire tilt bail Message-ID: <1597023660940-0.post at n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 For Sale: Elecraft K1 Portable QRP CW Transceiver, S/N 3225. I am the original builder and owner of this pristine unit, which was factory aligned and improved by Don W. and has worked perfectly ever since. This unit includes the KFL1-4 board for four bands: 40, 30, 20 and 15, includes the KAT1 internal ATU, and includes the K1BKLTKIT-X backlight mod. It also includes a wire tilt bail secured by thumbscrews. It has always been stored and protected from scratches inside a Ziploc bag, and I live in a non-smoking, pet-free home. It?s a great portable rig, but I have a KX3 and I?ve decided to sell this one, so I?m looking for a good home for it! $475, via PayPal only, and includes manuals, original correspondence, free shipping and insurance to CONUS. N8WL -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 22:07:19 -0400 From: Paul Van Dyke To: Keith Gordon Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Depends on what ICOM lets the IC705 do with other equipment. I saw the 1st IC705 and was less than impressed.. AND then they took it back in and rebuilt it because it was not going to fly. I still prize my KX3 for it versatility Paul KB9AVO KX3 #24 KXPA100 #22 On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 8:28 PM Keith Gordon wrote: > Simmer down. I own Elecraft gear and am getting more. > > For an ARES Go Box idea I'm enamoured with the idea of an IC705 mated to an > Elecraft 100W amp with tuner. > > Gives me single cord connection digital on HF, VHF & UHF and good old CW > and SSB as well. > > What do we know about mating the KPA100 to the IC705? > > 73s, Keith S Gordon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 22:16:04 -0400 From: Nr4c To: Hank Garretson Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Message-ID: <21ADBB8B-12BB-45B3-B32F-D47F61F97C14 at widomaker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Might try re-booting your computer. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > ?Windows 10. > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are grayed > out. > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > Hank, W6SX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:10:03 -0700 From: Hank Garretson To: Nr4c Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks Bill. Always a good suggestion, but didn't help. Port, Firmware, Command Tester, and Capture Image tabs all work as expected. Configuration tab has Save P3 Configuration and Restore P3 Configuration grayed out. 73, Hank, W6SX On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Nr4c wrote: > Might try re-booting your computer. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > > > ?Windows 10. > > > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are > grayed > > out. > > > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > > > Hank, W6SX > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:16:13 +0000 From: George Thornton To: Hank Garretson , Nr4c Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" When something strange like this happens another step to try is to refresh the firmware in the radio. -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Hank Garretson Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 8:10 PM To: Nr4c Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please Thanks Bill. Always a good suggestion, but didn't help. Port, Firmware, Command Tester, and Capture Image tabs all work as expected. Configuration tab has Save P3 Configuration and Restore P3 Configuration grayed out. 73, Hank, W6SX On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Nr4c wrote: > Might try re-booting your computer. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > > > ?Windows 10. > > > > P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 > > > > Connects to my P3 just fine. > > > > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are > grayed > > out. > > > > Help please. What am I doing wrong. > > > > Ham, Cope Exuberantly, > > > > Hank, W6SX > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > nr4c at widomaker.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 23:41:00 -0400 From: Nr4c To: Keith Gordon Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Blasphemy! IC705 w/ KPA100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 First off, the amp and tuner aren?t going to help you on 2 Meters or 70 CM. And you're going to need a full 12 Volts at 20 Amps to power the combo. You might as well use a 7300 and a dual band mobile. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Keith Gordon wrote: > > ?Simmer down. I own Elecraft gear and am getting more. > > For an ARES Go Box idea I'm enamoured with the idea of an IC705 mated to an > Elecraft 100W amp with tuner. > > Gives me single cord connection digital on HF, VHF & UHF and good old CW > and SSB as well. > > What do we know about mating the KPA100 to the IC705? > > 73s, Keith S Gordon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:25:19 -0700 From: kevinr To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: <34ef9806-420f-40b9-cd89-6d3c75f39c12 at coho.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Good Evening, ? Both bands had summer storm noise and QSB.? Signals were strong though and easy to copy.? The biggest problem was separating the calls out from one long howl.? I think I copied "howl TX9V" at one point which works out to K4TO, K6XK, and AB9V respectively.? Then I worked AK back to back with GA.? I like my new antenna.? Ken said he was on a vertical which could hear me better.? The doublet picked up a lot more noise and less signal so I used it very little. ?? On forty meters KC1ACL checked at least four times, each of them QRP.? QSB went from ESP to S7 on some of you.? Normally QSB acts like a sine wave.? But today some of you had QSB which acted like a square wave.? Your signal was on and then off again with no signs of fading or strengthening.? Just on and off.? We seemed to have found the time when 40 meters wakes up then settles down a little.? I'll leave the 40 m net time at 0045z for a few weeks and see how the band changes as the sun moves. ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z: W0CZ - Ken - ND K6XK - Roy - IA AB9V - Mike - IN KL7CW - Rick - AK K4JPN - Steve - GA ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0045z: KC1ACL - Steven - NM W0CZ - Ken - ND K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6PJV - Dale - CA WM5F - Dwight - ID ? Today the wind was pruning the fir trees.? The branches kept hitting the roof while I was on the air during the 20 meter net. The new vertical fits behind a large fir tree to my west.? It was out of the wind.? It should be protected from the flying branches.? But if it breaks it will be easy to fix. ? Until next week 73, ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS - NICK I headed down the hall in the opposite direction, toward the fire escape. I hadn't a moment to lose... LT. BRADSHAW Hey, Danger! Where's the fire? NICK In your eyes, Lieutenant Bradshaw. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:42:40 -0700 From: To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: <000201d66ed0$aebaa9d0$0c2ffd70$@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Kevin; Just saying thanks and I agree the QSB was crazy!!! I am wondering if you or others have tried to use APF on the Elecraft radio to pull out weaker CW signals from the noise. I've tried it a few times on my KX3 but wonder if I am setting it up correctly. I'm not sure it would have helped with the QSB as it was today. I'm wondering if anyone created a YouTube video on using APF to pull out weaker CW signals on a KX3? Thanks! Dwight WM5F Snip.... signal was on and then off again with no signs of fading or strengthening. Just on and off. We seemed to have found the time when 40 meters wakes up then settles down a little. I'll leave the 40 m net time at 0045z for a few weeks and see how the band changes as the sun moves. Kevin. KD5ONS - ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dwightanderson at roadrunner.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 01:02:25 -0500 From: "K5WA" To: Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question Message-ID: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we?d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our investm ent. I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) Semi-patiently waiting, ? Bob K5WA ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:22:19 -0400 From: Dave Sublette To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I heard nothing on 40M. 20M was good and QSB was only 2 S-units or so.; K4TO On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:43 AM wrote: > Hello Kevin; > > Just saying thanks and I agree the QSB was crazy!!! > > I am wondering if you or others have tried to use APF on the Elecraft > radio to pull out weaker CW signals from the noise. > I've tried it a few times on my KX3 but wonder if I am setting it up > correctly. I'm not sure it would have helped with the QSB as it was today. > > I'm wondering if anyone created a YouTube video on using APF to pull out > weaker CW signals on a KX3? > > Thanks! > Dwight > WM5F > > Snip.... signal was on and then off again with no signs of fading or > strengthening. Just on and off. We seemed to have found the time when > 40 meters wakes up then settles down a little. I'll leave the 40 m net > time at 0045z for a few weeks and see how the band changes as the sun moves. > > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > - > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dwightanderson at roadrunner.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4to at arrl.net > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:59:13 -0400 From: Ron Durie To: Subject: [Elecraft] FS W2 WATTMETER Message-ID: <000001d66f16$0d457df0$27d079d0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" W2 in Like new condition; surplus to my needs. Included: DCHF-2000 coupler; manual; and all cabling. $285 plus shipping. Like new condition; DCHF-2000 coupler also for sale. $175 plus shipping. PayPal preferred but checks also ok. Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line 704-843-3681 WB4OOA at gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:54:05 -0400 From: John Flynn To: Ron Bell Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" GiRls, You might also consider a power-splutter cable from ProAudio Engineering. 73, John K4ARQ On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 16:19 Ron Bell via Elecraft wrote: > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep > both at proper angle and manage the wires? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gio.flynn at gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:54:55 -0400 From: Dave To: K5WA Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Bob I?ll chime in. If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be ?burned at the stake?. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA wrote: > > ?After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, but at least we?d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from Elecraft about our inves tment. > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, ? > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rocketnj at gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:03:20 -0400 From: Randy Farmer To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net, Elecraft-K4 at groups.io Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Status Message-ID: <982ab8ed-4185-6ec7-f0f3-63ca90378491 at windstream.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I watched Eric's EXPO presentation on the K4 and also monitored the following Q&A session. The radio looks fantastic, and there may eventually be one in my future. What I found even more impressive, however, was Eric's total candor in response to questions on the delivery timeline. He carefully explained essentially everything that was going on at the company and how it was likely to impact the delivery schedule. This included frank assessments of potential supply chain problems and ongoing product development work. It's absolutely astonishing to me that a principal of a company would be willing to discuss such things in a public forum. I doubt you'd ever see representatives of the major Japanese radio companies come anywhere close to such disclosure. I don't know much about Flex, but I gather openness is not their strong suit, either. Wayne's talk on the KX2 mechanical engineering process was equally impressive. He laid out the intimate details of how they did the packaging. I've never seen such an in-depth presentation of the development of a product from any company. This far exceeded the detail that would occasionally be presented in the long-gone Hewlett-Packard journals. Those of you who think Elecraft is trying to conceal information on the K4 rollout owe it to yourselves to check out the recorded sessions when they become available online. They should allay any doubts you might have about whether or not you're being given the straight info from Elecraft. 73... Randy, W8FN ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:32:49 +0000 From: Michael Rosenberg To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check out M0TDZ's 3D printing KX3/PX3 stand customized with your call. http://chopcat.co.uk/blog-2/ ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:52:47 -0600 From: VE6WZ_Steve To: K5WA Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question Message-ID: <8AB0F1F4-755F-45A6-96D7-30DC9270FBBE at shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Bob, Regarding the remote capability of the K4 I heard the same thing. I specifically asked in the chat room if Elecraft currently has PC based user interface software to be used with a remote installation. The response from Wayne seems to indicate they do not. I also ordered the radio a year ago based on correspondence with Elecraft indicating they will have PC control software available at the time of delivery. The Elecraft response seems to be that there ?should be? a Win4K4 type software package available, and that RemoteHam software ?"should be able to control the radio?. My expectation was that there would be PC based user interface software available that would substantially emulate the K4 front panel display with full waterfall and control functionality. I would expect some detail about the software, perhaps at least some screenshots and some communication from Elecraft that the software has been tested in the field. The silence from Elecraft on this topic seems to indicate such software is NOT available. Please understand I remain excited about adding the K4 to my remote to hopefully replace the K3s and maybe the Flex 6600, but since I will NEVER even see or touch the K4 when using it (it will be 100km away). I need to fully understand what the control software will look like since without it the radio is useless to me. To be clear, before I can accept delivery of the radio, I will need more than ?sure, there will be software available to control the radio?. Without specific and DETAIL information from Elecraft about this, I will need to cancel my order and request a refund and wait until the remote capabilities are developed in the future. 73, de steve VE6WZ. > After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it installed this year. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft You must be a subscriber to post. Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 12 ***************************************** From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 14:28:04 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:28:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question In-Reply-To: References: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> Message-ID: One word: Borland. Local (to Elecraft) techies know their story. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:57 AM Dave wrote: > Bob > > I?ll chime in. > > If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any > reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be ?burned at > the stake?. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the big wildcard, it > is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. > > Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. > > Dave wo2x > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > > > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA wrote: > > > > ?After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him say > Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software for > the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own remote > software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available from > 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually > have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so I?ve > been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have to switch > gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to have it > installed this year. > > > > > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known lot, > it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be given > a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for example, as > people on this reflector announce that they received S/N 25 and your number > was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting close. Ideally, with > supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could show their production > projections by S/N or at least an estimated units per week forecast as they > ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may change due to special circumstances, > but at least we?d have a ballpark pecking order of when to sit at the > mailbox looking down the street (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not > aware of a downside to letting folks know their actual or approximate spot > in line. We all know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest > influence on delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more > transparency from Elecraft about our investment. > > > > > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for the > last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the > announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely has > internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on the > waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that tabulates the > list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing there are 500-1000 > units in Group 1?) > > > > > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, ? > > > > > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to rocketnj at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com From mike.flowers at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 14:41:37 2020 From: mike.flowers at gmail.com (Mike Flowers) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:41:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question In-Reply-To: References: <118d01d66edb$e78ed8c0$b6ac8a40$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <017f01d66f45$e19f0510$a4dd0f30$@gmail.com> Starfish ... ;>) - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Eric Norris > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 11:28 > To: Dave > Cc: K5WA ; elecraft at mailman qth. net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 remote software question > > One word: Borland. Local (to Elecraft) techies know their story. > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:57 AM Dave wrote: > > > Bob > > > > I?ll chime in. > > > > If a company gives a forecasted ship date and misses the mark for any > > reason, including unforeseen circumstances that company would be > > ?burned at the stake?. I have seen it before. So with COVID-19 the > > big wildcard, it is virtually impossible to predict any long term forecast. > > > > Some hams treat a projected date as written in stone. > > > > Dave wo2x > > > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > > > > > On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:04 AM, K5WA wrote: > > > > > > ?After listening to Eric?s EXPO presentation, I thought I heard him > > > say > > Elecraft would have an API for developers to develop remote software > > for the K4. I take that to mean that Elecraft will NOT have their own > > remote software offering so you must buy a K4/0 until software is available > from > > 3rd parties. I had understood previously that Elecraft would actually > > have their own software available around the ship date of the K4 so > > I?ve been planning for that in my remote project. I guess I?ll have > > to switch gears and delay my remote project further. I was hoping to > > have it installed this year. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the K4 delivery issue, since the Group 1 purchasers are a known > > > lot, > > it seems that any group that is full and finite should be able to be > > given a number (maybe even the actual/projected S/N) so that, for > > example, as people on this reflector announce that they received S/N > > 25 and your number was 50, you?d have a clue that your rig was getting > > close. Ideally, with supply chains running smoothly, Elecraft could > > show their production projections by S/N or at least an estimated > > units per week forecast as they ramp up. I realize the exact S/N may > > change due to special circumstances, but at least we?d have a ballpark > > pecking order of when to sit at the mailbox looking down the street > > (longingly) for a delivery truck. I?m not aware of a downside to > > letting folks know their actual or approximate spot in line. We all > > know Gavin Newsome and Dr. Faucci have the largest influence on > > delivery dates but I?d sure like to have a wee bit more transparency from > Elecraft about our investment. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know there will be folks telling me to sit tight (as I have for > > > the > > last 15+ months), they?re coming, but since late August is still the > > announced best guess for first production shipments, Elecraft surely > > has internal forecasts by now that could be parceled out to folks on > > the waiting list. Heck, I?ll even volunteer to be the body that > > tabulates the list if Elecraft wants to put me to work. (I?m guessing > > there are 500-1000 units in Group 1?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Semi-patiently waiting, ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > > rocketnj at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to mike.flowers at gmail.com From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 15:07:19 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Link to Eric's K4 q&a sessions? Message-ID: I'm having trouble finding anything but frustration for anything not on youtube. 73 Eric WD6DBM From wb4ooa at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 15:10:06 2020 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:10:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS W2 WATTMETER Message-ID: <000d01d66f49$dcc43430$964c9c90$@gmail.com> Updated W2 in Like new condition; surplus to my needs. Included: DCHF-2000 coupler; manual; and all cabling. $285 plus shipping to CONUS. Like new condition; DCHF-2000 coupler also for sale. $175 Shipped to CONUS. PayPal preferred but checks also ok. Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line 704-843-3681 WB4OOA at gmail.com From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 15:33:41 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:33:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Link to Eric's K4 q&a sessions? In-Reply-To: <00fc01d66f4b$ef7c9d40$ce75d7c0$@comcast.net> References: <00fc01d66f4b$ef7c9d40$ce75d7c0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: No, that video is on youtube, and does not include the q&a. But thanks anyway. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 12:25 PM Ed Pflueger wrote: > Don't know if this is what yo were talking about. It works here. > https://youtu.be/KPw5SL6woR8 > > Ed.. AB4IQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Norris > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:07 PM > To: elecraft at mailman qth. net > Subject: [Elecraft] Link to Eric's K4 q&a sessions? > > I'm having trouble finding anything but frustration for anything not on > youtube. > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to ab4iq at comcast.net > > From w6sx at arrl.net Mon Aug 10 15:55:10 2020 From: w6sx at arrl.net (Hank Garretson) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:55:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Fixed--P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:55 PM Hank Garretson wrote: > When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are > grayed out. > Thanks to help from N6KR, all is good. I didn't have latest P3 firmware. My goof. Thanks to everyone else for the suggestions. 73, Hank, W6SX From w6sx at arrl.net Mon Aug 10 16:01:31 2020 From: w6sx at arrl.net (Hank Garretson) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:01:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Fixed--P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ooooooops! Another goof. Dick, K6KR fixed me up. 73, Hank, W6SX On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:55 PM Hank Garretson wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:55 PM Hank Garretson wrote: > > >> When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are >> grayed out. >> > > Thanks to help from N6KR, all is good. > > I didn't have latest P3 firmware. My goof. > > Thanks to everyone else for the suggestions. > > 73, > > Hank, W6SX > From jrheins at charlousweb.com Mon Aug 10 16:25:56 2020 From: jrheins at charlousweb.com (Jerry Rheinschmidt) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:25:56 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft K2 Transceiver SN 2655 Message-ID: <9AD12737-B4B6-443A-B60F-869EF4E61277@charlousweb.com> I am the original owner and builder of this kit and am selling it to upgrade to a KX3 The K2 was updated from rev A to rev B with 2.04P 1.09 processors and includes the MH2 microphone The following options were also installed: KBT2 Internal Battery Option includes battery K160RX 160 meter module with receive antenna switch K60XV 60M and Transverter Adapter KSB2 SSB Adapter KAF2 Audio Filter and Real-Time Clock KAT2 Automatic Antenna Tuner KNB2 Noise Blanker KIO2 AUX I/O Module Nifty! Mini-Manual Elecraft K2 Plus Options All K2 manuals and options are included Price $725.00 Buyer to pay for boxing, insurance and shipping costs. Pick up is okay Denver, CO 80249 73, Jerry WA0BFD 303-807-9668 From jcjglt at lagoon.nc Mon Aug 10 16:35:09 2020 From: jcjglt at lagoon.nc (jcjglt at lagoon.nc) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 07:35:09 +1100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations Message-ID: Hi all, When raising this question I did not plan to transmit outside of the Ham bands but only to import a K2 in a country where the authorities do not allow the use of a transceiver which can transmit outside of the Ham bands. Yes such countries still exist and they have a right to be strict. I got an answer from a EA... who had the same problem in Spain and Elecraft factory set for him the I/O chip of his kit. 73 Pierre - FK8IH From kthreebo at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 16:54:04 2020 From: kthreebo at gmail.com (barry halterman) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:54:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAF2 wanted Message-ID: Any surplus KAF2 audio filters anyone would want to part with, built or unbuilt? Barry From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 10 16:56:18 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:56:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: <355669954.1897900.1597075226759@mail.yahoo.com> References: <148801d66e8a$106efe20$314cfa60$@googlemail.com> <355669954.1897900.1597075226759@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98b2e61b-8922-8eb1-d262-b6e9c43f48ed@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/10/2020 9:00 AM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > Hi,I'd like to add the PAE power supply. Small, noise free.73 This PSU IS quiet when supplying the 150mA or so needed on receive, but pretty noisy with the much larger currents needed for transmit. That means it's fine if it only powers a KX3 and you're not trying to listen on another radio at the same time. 73, Jim K9YC From hbjr at optilink.us Mon Aug 10 18:27:35 2020 From: hbjr at optilink.us (HB) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:27:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] re KX3 PX3 desktop stand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <202008102227.07AMRZ5k027082-07AMRZ5m027082@mailfilter.optilink.us> I love this handmade stand for my setup from North Ga QRP club - http://nogaqrp.org/ Hank K4HYJ From: John Newgas Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:09 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: mongoose1951 at googlemail.com Subject: [Elecraft] re KX3 PX3 desktop stand Ron Bell Asked : > Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep both at proper angle and manage the wires? I made a nice and low cost stand using a Music Stand from Amazon like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0897TDWH9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_mXxmFb8V9KPQC I used a spare bit of wood left over from picture rail to add a second shelf above the KX3/PX3 combo to take a raspberry pi and a Microham USB. The power supply sits behind it it with a four way splitter. ( $6 from Amazon ) The Cables are neatly held in place with stick on Cable Supports. ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TXB9VLZ/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_r6xmFbQXPWWK7 ) You need to clean the wood with alcohol before trying to stick down the supports See a picture at https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.qrz.com/q/g7ltq/Station_running_with_headless_Pi.jpg I had to have system which was acceptable to look at as it runs in a corner of our living room. John G7LTQ/AG7VS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hbjr at optilink.us From w4sc at windstream.net Mon Aug 10 19:47:18 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 19:47:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Was Q and A from Erics K4 talk captured and posted? Message-ID: Was Q and A from Erics talk captured and posted? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From ghyoungman at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 20:04:21 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:04:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Was Q and A from Erics K4 talk captured and posted? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <269BEEDF-0D93-465F-9328-9DB3B2F0993B@gmail.com> According to a note on the Expo website, the Q&A?s will be post "in a few days?. They were all being recorded, Grant NQ5T > On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:47 PM, w4sc wrote: > > Was Q and A from Erics talk captured and posted? > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com From pa0pje at xs4all.nl Tue Aug 11 08:17:54 2020 From: pa0pje at xs4all.nl (Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:17:54 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8f6ddfa6-f8d7-db67-65c9-ccd4e5a38c16@xs4all.nl> On 10-08-2020 at 22:35 jcjglt at lagoon.nc wrote: > and they have a right to be strict. Sorry Pierre, "they" don't... Not for radio amateurs. Professional use like land, sea and air maybe yes. CB certainly. Amateurs have a license to live up to. Government may restrict commercial amateur gear to be restricted when it leaves the factory but if a licensed amateur hampers this for the sake of having special functions they should be able to do so without rendering the radio illegal. A K2 is not leaving the factory as a complete unit but as a bunch of parts that can be put together by qualified users. Spain as a country should in that case be to blame, not Elecraft be forced to make adaptions to the kit. As should of course Nouvelle Caledonie. 73, Peter - PA0PJE From jstengrevics at comcast.net Tue Aug 11 08:20:14 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:20:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference Message-ID: I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency. The resulting frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters. However, on 2 meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low. The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate). There is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator. I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss. I would appreciate any suggestions. 73, John WA1EAZ From flymustangs at hotmail.com Tue Aug 11 10:18:39 2020 From: flymustangs at hotmail.com (Ken Simmons) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:18:39 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / PX3 For Sale Message-ID: I?ve decided to go with a KX2 and need to sell this combo. Here?s what?s included: KX3 bought used. Ser# 9550 PX3 bought new just a little over a month ago. Ser# 3975 Internal tuner, Internal RTC/battery charger, Roofing filter, MH3 Microphone, Side KX side panels and cover (for the KX3 only). ES80 case, cable set, USB cable, paddles from QRPGuys, portable book by Fred Cady. Everything in excellent condition. $1850 shipped within the US. Thanks. Ken WR7D From dougfaunt at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 10:33:23 2020 From: dougfaunt at gmail.com (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 07:33:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Military use of Elecraft gear? Message-ID: Maybe here- https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/08/10/us-marines-can-beat-the-chinese-navy-but-only-if-the-marines-can-stay-hidden/ 73, doug From gary at w2cs.org Tue Aug 11 10:47:02 2020 From: gary at w2cs.org (Gary J Ferdinand) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:47:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: <21ADBB8B-12BB-45B3-B32F-D47F61F97C14@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Hank, you probably already did this but if not, uninstall the P3 utility. Reboot Windows 10. Reinstall the P3 utility from the Elecraft site. Pray. Try again. 73/Gary W2CS > On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:16 PM, George Thornton wrote: > > When something strange like this happens another step to try is to refresh the firmware in the radio. > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Hank Garretson > Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 8:10 PM > To: Nr4c > > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility Help Please > > Thanks Bill. Always a good suggestion, but didn't help. > > Port, Firmware, Command Tester, and Capture Image tabs all work as expected. > > Configuration tab has Save P3 Configuration and Restore P3 Configuration grayed out. > > 73, > > Hank, W6SX > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Nr4c wrote: > >> Might try re-booting your computer. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: >>> >>> ?Windows 10. >>> >>> P3 Utility Ref 1.16.3.15 >>> >>> Connects to my P3 just fine. >>> >>> When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are >> grayed >>> out. >>> >>> Help please. What am I doing wrong. >>> >>> Ham, Cope Exuberantly, >>> >>> Hank, W6SX >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>> nr4c at widomaker.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at w2cs.org From gary at w2cs.org Tue Aug 11 10:47:58 2020 From: gary at w2cs.org (Gary J Ferdinand) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:47:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fixed--P3 Utility Help Please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Clearly, ignore my last, Hank. Congrats on the fix. Gary W2CS > On Aug 10, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Hank Garretson wrote: > > Ooooooops! Another goof. > > Dick, K6KR fixed me up. > > 73, > > Hank, W6SX > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:55 PM Hank Garretson wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:55 PM Hank Garretson wrote: >> >> >>> When I click on Configuration Tab, both Save and Restore options are >>> grayed out. >>> >> >> Thanks to help from N6KR, all is good. >> >> I didn't have latest P3 firmware. My goof. >> >> Thanks to everyone else for the suggestions. >> >> 73, >> >> Hank, W6SX >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at w2cs.org From jstengrevics at comcast.net Tue Aug 11 12:08:00 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:08:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DE638AC-4389-4E3D-ABC2-161A9A796A27@comcast.net> Hi Mike, Yes, the Phase Lock option is installed according to instructions from Elecraft. But, I am 800 Hz off. 73. John WA1EAZ > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Mike Harris wrote: > > Hi John, > > Can we assume that the K144XV Oscillator Phase Lock (option) is installed. It works for me. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > > On 11/08/2020 09:20, John Stengrevics wrote: >> I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency. The resulting frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters. However, on 2 meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low. >> The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate). There is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator. >> I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss. I would appreciate any suggestions. >> 73, >> John >> WA1EAZ From ghyoungman at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 12:28:52 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:28:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] kX2 3d Model Tour Message-ID: <80D5D965-689E-42FF-A6E4-0D89F9E4D931@gmail.com> Wayne?s KX2 3D model tour is up on the Elecraft YouTube channel, if you missed it during the live expo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umAatw_VKss Hopefully one or both of Eric?s 90 minute K4 Q&A?s will show up there soon, also. Grant NQ5T From hdv at kpnplanet.nl Tue Aug 11 14:18:57 2020 From: hdv at kpnplanet.nl (Henk de Vries) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <547D618FCEC1E4A6.1ec92192-7e0a-4845-af3c-8dc3e148aba3@mail.outlook.com> Hi john, Correction of the frequency for HF/6 takes place at synthesizer/DSP level (Elecraft has not answered my questions where exactly) and takes the frequency deviation of the main TCXO into account. So this does not correct the TCXO itself. The 2 meter K144RFLK locks directly to the main TCXO. As said, this frequency cannot be corrected. The 2 meter transverter does not "communicate" with the rest of the K3 as well so no correction on synthesizer/DSP level takes place and any TCXO frequency deviation will show up on 2 meters. The 800 Hz cannot be corrected. You could change the TCXO by a more accurate one. 73 Henk PA0C Henk On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM +0200, "John Stengrevics" wrote: I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency. The resulting frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters. However, on 2 meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low. The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate). There is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator. I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss. I would appreciate any suggestions. 73, John WA1EAZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hdv at kpnplanet.nl From k2asp at kanafi.org Tue Aug 11 14:21:55 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:21:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 transmit limitations In-Reply-To: <8f6ddfa6-f8d7-db67-65c9-ccd4e5a38c16@xs4all.nl> References: <8f6ddfa6-f8d7-db67-65c9-ccd4e5a38c16@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <56b5b1c5-98f6-682f-14ec-5cb5cdc14a02@kanafi.org> On 8/11/2020 5:17 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote: >> and they have a right to be strict. > > Sorry Pierre, "they" don't... Not for radio amateurs. I am a legal professional in the communications regulatory field having spent many decades on both the governmental side and the private-industry side and in the past have written revised rules for amateur operation for a small Region 1 country as well as rules for licensing and siting for antenna towers in several jurisdictions here in the United States. Sorry, Peter, every Administration has not only the right but the obligation to set whatever standards for their country. The only way to change that is to put pressure on that Administration to change through whatever legal means are possible. Radio amateurs do not have any special privilege to conduct themselves except in conformance with whatever license and regulations the Administration prescribes - right or wrong. Some Administrations still license amateur operators to use a specific transmitter at a specific location and under specific conditions. Many don't but apparently the New Caledonia's Administration that Pierre is dealing with still does. I'm not saying it's right or wrong - I'm saying that's what it is. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane (Esq / P.E.) Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From jstengrevics at comcast.net Tue Aug 11 14:28:54 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:28:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference In-Reply-To: <547D618FCEC1E4A6.1ec92192-7e0a-4845-af3c-8dc3e148aba3@mail.outlook.com> References: <547D618FCEC1E4A6.1ec92192-7e0a-4845-af3c-8dc3e148aba3@mail.outlook.com> Message-ID: <5BA57EFF-40F6-48EF-B8AE-7154C06743E0@comcast.net> Hi Henk, Thanks for that info. That does make me think I could adjust the offset on the Config menu to account for the 800 Hz, no? 73, John WA1EAZ > On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Henk de Vries wrote: > > Hi john, > > Correction of the frequency for HF/6 takes place at synthesizer/DSP level (Elecraft has not answered my questions where exactly) and takes the frequency deviation of the main TCXO into account. So this does not correct the TCXO itself. > > The 2 meter K144RFLK locks directly to the main TCXO. As said, this frequency cannot be corrected. > > The 2 meter transverter does not "communicate" with the rest of the K3 as well so no correction on synthesizer/DSP level takes place and any TCXO frequency deviation will show up on 2 meters. > The 800 Hz cannot be corrected. > > You could change the TCXO by a more accurate one. > > 73 Henk > PA0C > > Henk > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM +0200, "John Stengrevics" > wrote: > > I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency. The resulting frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters. However, on 2 meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low. > > The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate). There is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator. > > I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss. I would appreciate any suggestions. > > 73, > > John > WA1EAZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hdv at kpnplanet.nl From hdv at kpnplanet.nl Tue Aug 11 14:53:06 2020 From: hdv at kpnplanet.nl (Henk de Vries) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference In-Reply-To: <5BA57EFF-40F6-48EF-B8AE-7154C06743E0@comcast.net> References: <547D618FCEC1E4A6.1ec92192-7e0a-4845-af3c-8dc3e148aba3@mail.outlook.com> <5BA57EFF-40F6-48EF-B8AE-7154C06743E0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <547D618FCEC1E4A6.7531863c-b689-4995-897e-7a96cf6ce086@mail.outlook.com> Hi John, In case you are only interested in 2 meters you can and have an accurate readout on the band Be aware that all hf + 6m will shift as well and will no longer be accurate. 73 Henk Henk On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 8:28 PM +0200, "John Stengrevics" wrote: Hi Henk, Thanks for that info. ?That does make me think I could adjust the offset on the Config menu to account for the 800 Hz, no? 73, JohnWA1EAZ On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Henk de Vries wrote: Hi john, Correction of the frequency for HF/6 takes place at synthesizer/DSP level (Elecraft has not answered my questions where exactly) and takes the frequency deviation of the main TCXO into account. So this does not correct the TCXO itself. The 2 meter K144RFLK locks directly to the main TCXO. As said, this frequency cannot be corrected. The 2 meter transverter does not "communicate" with the rest of the K3 as well so no correction on synthesizer/DSP level takes place and any TCXO frequency deviation will show up on 2 meters. The 800 Hz cannot be corrected. You could change the TCXO by a more accurate one. 73 Henk PA0C Henk On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM +0200, "John Stengrevics" wrote: I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency. The resulting frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters. However, on 2 meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low. The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate). There is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator. I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss. I would appreciate any suggestions. 73, John WA1EAZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hdv at kpnplanet.nl From N8WL at ARRL.NET Tue Aug 11 15:48:11 2020 From: N8WL at ARRL.NET (N8WL) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:48:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: KX1 for 40/20M, with paddle and ATU. MINT! Message-ID: <1597175291545-0.post@n2.nabble.com> For Sale: Elecraft KX1 Ultra-Portable CW Transceiver (but will receive SSB and AM also). I am the original builder and owner of this pristine unit, which was factory aligned and improved by Don W. and has worked perfectly ever since. This unit is two bands: 40 and 20, and includes the reversible, removable CW paddle and the KXAT1 internal ATU. It has always been stored and protected from scratches inside a Ziploc bag, and I live in a non-smoking, pet-free home. It?s a great portable rig, but I have a KX3 and I?ve decided to sell this one, so I?m looking for a good home for it! $450, via PayPal only, and includes manuals, original correspondence, free shipping and insurance to CONUS. Batteries not included (6 AA alkalines). -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From glen.torr at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 18:09:18 2020 From: glen.torr at gmail.com (Glen Torr) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:09:18 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Olive Drab KX2 Message-ID: Wayne, After extended thought please put me down for one. Cheers, Glen, VK1FB From w4sc at windstream.net Tue Aug 11 19:14:16 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference Message-ID: <69.5D.10141.746233F5@smtp03.aqua.bos.sync.lan> Read the following: 1) K144XV manual pp20 2) K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option Manual. Pp 11 Once the K3S 49MHz oscillator is calibrated, leave alone. The LOs (plural,,,116MHz and 118MHz) are locked to the 10MHz reference (which, depending where you are in the 2M band). If there is no 10MHz reference applied, keeping the desired accuracy may be impossible over a range of temperature. You should be able to attain +- 10Hx accuracy according to the K144XV manuals. If the 800Hz error cannot be corrected by the procedure outlined, I suggest contact Elecraft support. Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From barrylazar2 at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 20:49:59 2020 From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:49:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions Message-ID: I just saw the presentation Eric gave on the K4. It is really impressive. However, I've never been able to get the answer to a few questions. First, is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or less on data modes. Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This requires a MME format. I'm sure I will have additional questions over time. But, these are my present burning questions. I now have a K3s and think it's a fantastic radio. 73, Barry K3NDM From jstengrevics at comcast.net Tue Aug 11 21:54:18 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:54:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference In-Reply-To: <69.5D.10141.746233F5@smtp03.aqua.bos.sync.lan> References: <69.5D.10141.746233F5@smtp03.aqua.bos.sync.lan> Message-ID: <2F6AB8EF-B144-4973-9714-A8FD93835C50@comcast.net> Ben, The K144XV & Phase lock calibration steps have already been performed. The problem arises when using an external reference oscillator. Elecraft support emailed. Thanks, John WA1EAZ > On Aug 11, 2020, at 7:14 PM, w4sc wrote: > > Read the following: > > K144XV manual pp20 > K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option Manual. Pp 11 > > Once the K3S 49MHz oscillator is calibrated, leave alone. > > The LOs (plural,,,116MHz and 118MHz) are locked to the 10MHz reference (which, depending where you are in the 2M band). If there is no 10MHz reference applied, keeping the desired accuracy may be impossible over a range of temperature. > > You should be able to attain +- 10Hx accuracy according to the K144XV manuals. If the 800Hz error cannot be corrected by the procedure outlined, I suggest contact Elecraft support. > > Ben W4SC > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From w4sc at windstream.net Tue Aug 11 22:23:10 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 22:23:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration ProblemUsing External Reference In-Reply-To: <2F6AB8EF-B144-4973-9714-A8FD93835C50@comcast.net> References: <69.5D.10141.746233F5@smtp03.aqua.bos.sync.lan> <2F6AB8EF-B144-4973-9714-A8FD93835C50@comcast.net> Message-ID: <33.ED.30442.D82533F5@smtp01.aqua.bos.sync.lan> Are you seeing the 800Hz error in both band segments (144 and 146)? Looking at the schematics, there is an adjustment for each LO, but this must be a factory adjustment as there is no mention of them in manuals. Good to contact support. All would be interested in the resolution. 73 de Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: John Stengrevics Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 21:54 To: w4sc Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration ProblemUsing External Reference Ben, The K144XV & Phase lock calibration steps have already been performed. ?The problem arises when using an external reference oscillator. ? Elecraft support emailed. Thanks, John WA1EAZ On Aug 11, 2020, at 7:14 PM, w4sc wrote: Read the following:? ? 1. K144XV manual pp20 2. K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option Manual. Pp 11 ? Once the K3S 49MHz oscillator is calibrated, leave alone. ? The LOs (plural,,,116MHz and 118MHz) are locked to the 10MHz reference (which, depending where you are in the 2M band).? If there is no 10MHz reference applied, keeping the desired accuracy may be impossible over a range of temperature. ? You should be able to attain +- 10Hx accuracy according to the K144XV manuals.? If the 800Hz error cannot be corrected by the procedure outlined, I suggest contact Elecraft support. ? Ben W4SC ? Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10 From cabull at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 07:58:05 2020 From: cabull at gmail.com (Chris Bull) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 07:58:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted to buy, an Alexmic Message-ID: Well after searching the world for a Alexmic to buy, new or used. I have realized this list is my last hope. Alex has told me he doesn't expect to get anymore and all online NA stores have no stock except RadioHaus.com which is not replying to my inquiries, but lists them as for sale. Also There is also a German online store selling these but the price in EU currency for the item, shipping and exchange is, well... ridiculous. So anyone in North America who would like to sell theirs I would accept. It would need to be shipped to Canada and I will pay a US seller in USD via paypal or whatever and pay for shipping of course. Thanks 73 VE3XKZ Chris From cabull at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 08:43:24 2020 From: cabull at gmail.com (Chris Bull) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:43:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RE Alexmic Message-ID: I suppose an off list email address would help. ve3xkz at gmail dot com. Thanks 73 Chris VE3XKZ From rshubbard at me.com Wed Aug 12 11:52:34 2020 From: rshubbard at me.com (richard hubbard) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:52:34 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] XV144 Transverter and K2 In-Reply-To: <5a77bf38-fd51-8e32-2cb9-d58d31d1090c@embarqmail.com> References: <5a77bf38-fd51-8e32-2cb9-d58d31d1090c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <7C917553-A257-47DC-95EB-851ECE957302@me.com> Hello Don, Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the guidance I found that I had one of the jumpers in the wrong position, my eye sight is not what it used to be. I have now run int an info 80 error which only occurs when the transverter control cable is connected. When I disconnect the transverter the error clears after I cycle the power, however the K2 does not see the KPA100 which is in a separate EC2 enclosure with the ATU. Within the K2 menu whilst I can select PORT ON; PA and ATU are blank (three dashes). When I power up the K2 the relays can be herd to click in, as per appendix E in the K2 manual. Do you think that this points to an issue with the Aux bus, I have tried a had reset however the PA and ATU are still not seen? Thank you. Best regards, Richard Hubbard. > On 6 Aug 2020, at 20:48, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Richard, > > The components that could be damaged with J7 in place are a few in the automatic power on circuits. Move the jumper to J8 and with the power switch in the non-activated position and the K2 to XV control cable in place, see if it turns on when you select the 144 MHz band. If so, no harm done. > > The failure to transmit is an entirely different problem. Check all the jumpers that relate to your IF interface (single cable or split RX/TX) and the jumpers for you chosen power level - then try it. > > If you still do not get any power output, tell us how you have the TX/RX cables configured, you drive power level, and what you are using to determine power output level (into a good VHF dummy load). > > Do you have an oscilloscope with a 10X probe that can work well at 28 MHz or an RF Probe? You will need one or the other to do much troubleshooting. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/6/2020 2:30 PM, richard hubbard via Elecraft wrote: >> Hello, >> I have recently bought a XV144 transverter, which was used on another non Elecraft Rig. I followed the setup for use wit a KS however did not notice that thee was a soldered jumper on J7. Looking further into the manual I see that using the K2 wit the Transverter J7 shorted can cause damage. I currently have no output from the transverter. Does anyon know what to look for. From keith at elecraft.com Wed Aug 12 12:44:51 2020 From: keith at elecraft.com (Keith Trinity WE6R) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:44:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3dca53d6-2ef8-d4df-2fbe-2ca3e2cc496c@elecraft.com> Make sure the RefLock board is seated all the way down in the K144 and cabled correctly (there is a BAD diagram floating around). Check for current Firmware, FW of BOTH the radio AND the K144XV! Older did not support the RefLock! Check the TMP socket(s) on the K144XVREFLOCK for shoved in centers, they can get pushed in. Make sure the TAP 0 (zero) in the XV1 OFS menu says REFLOCK and not NOR. Does the external ref give you an asterisk blinking in the REF CAL config menu after about 15 seconds or less? If so, the RefLock in the K144 should lock to that and be very accurate. HOWEVER; What is the main REF CAL number when calibrated? If it is too far away from 49.380.000 the RefLock will not be able to pull the K144 onto frequency. If it is below 49.379.500 or so it could be the problem, in which case you need a new main oscillator. If the external Reference is being used (EXREF) then there is no need for the main oscillator to be the high stability KCTXO3-1. Put the low stability one back in if you upgraded and see if it's number is closer to 49.380 If you do have the high stability KTCXO3-1, and the number is too far out, you can tweak the cap under the sticker to MAYBE get it close enough. Go slow on tuning, and don't set it too close to the "wrap" point or a temp change may make it go out of lock. IE On 6meters, set radio and accurate signal generator to get a nice signal, disable the EXREF, and tweak bringing the 49.379.xxx freq closer to 49.38. It will only go so far an go out of lock, go back a little until it locks, then maybe a tad bit back to allow for temp changes. Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech. From flymustangs at hotmail.com Wed Aug 12 13:10:51 2020 From: flymustangs at hotmail.com (Ken Simmons) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:10:51 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / PX3 For Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?m willing to split the KX3 and PX3. There a couple of people interested in just the PX3, but no sale yet. If the price isn?t reasonable, please make an offer. I would like to pick up a KX2 by the end of the month so I have it for a Labor Day road trip. If anyone has one they want to part with, I would be interested. Thanks. Ken WR7D From: Ken Simmons Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:19 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / PX3 For Sale I?ve decided to go with a KX2 and need to sell this combo. Here?s what?s included: KX3 bought used. Ser# 9550 PX3 bought new just a little over a month ago. Ser# 3975 Internal tuner, Internal RTC/battery charger, Roofing filter, MH3 Microphone, Side KX side panels and cover (for the KX3 only). ES80 case, cable set, USB cable, paddles from QRPGuys, portable book by Fred Cady. Everything in excellent condition. $1850 shipped within the US. Thanks. Ken WR7D From alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 12 13:54:14 2020 From: alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com (Alan Geller) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:54:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] XV144 External XVRTR connection to the KIO3B References: <72105AE7-9DC9-443C-8FD1-4190C112B47F.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72105AE7-9DC9-443C-8FD1-4190C112B47F@yahoo.com> I have a finished and tested XV144 that was meant to pair with my K2 but issues prevented me from adding the necessary features to my K2. Here I am years later wanting to now use this NIB XVRTR on my fully upgraded K3 and the only ?control? connection to the KIO3B seems to be from the 144?s DB-9 to the KIO3B?s RS232/RJ45. I have alan extra Elecraft K3/P3 ?X"cable (E980297) which is the correct form-factor. Will this work for me if I follow the rules in the K3S manual and on page 5 of the XVRTR Users manual Rev F1 of 2013? Thanks for any help or cautions. Alan?.K6ADG From wb4ooa at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 14:38:43 2020 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:38:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS DCHF-2000 COUPLER Message-ID: <005b01d670d7$cf60de80$6e229b80$@gmail.com> DCHF-2000 coupler for the W2 wattmeter for sale. Includes cable. In like new condition. $150 Shipped to CONUS. PayPal preferred but checks also ok. Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line 704-843-3681 WB4OOA at gmail.com From jstengrevics at comcast.net Wed Aug 12 14:40:23 2020 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:40:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Skip, I thought so. However, one respondent said that if that was done, all the low band & 6 meter frequencies would be off, so I just had to live with it. Elecraft tech support emailed. 73, John WA1EAZ > On Aug 12, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Skip Davis wrote: > > John, Isn?t that what the XVn OFS menu function is for? Try to set this to + or - 0.800 which ever direction it is and see if that corrects you frequency reading error. > > Skip Davis, NC9O > Sent from my iPhone From w1rm at comcast.net Wed Aug 12 16:57:10 2020 From: w1rm at comcast.net (Peter Chamalian) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:57:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] A very strange problem Message-ID: <001f01d670eb$2859d650$790d82f0$@comcast.net> On a few occasions I have had reports of a broad signal generating key clicks. One report was backed up with a photo of a pan adapter screen shot. Subsequent checks with a local showed no such problem. The station who reported the problem told me he had received a similar report from a number of guys. I don't have anything unusual in my setup. I'm running a K3S at 32 watts driving a Expert 2K-FA. At the time of this report I was working a station is MS so my 20 meter beam was pointing just south of the house. I was concerned that somehow the amp keying was getting in the act but that would not account for a broad signal only clicks which the amp has circuitry to eliminate any hot switching. In conversations with W5UQ at Expert he suggested the possibility of RF so I ordered the Palomar Engineering filtering kits for both the amp and K3S. I'll put them on as soon as they arrive. Has anyone run into similar problems? If so can you reproduce them? Better have you found the source and fixed it? Pete, W1RM W1RM at Comcast.net From jthorpe at liberty.edu Wed Aug 12 19:31:21 2020 From: jthorpe at liberty.edu (Thorpe, Jeffrey) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 23:31:21 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 mic/spkr adapted to Kenwood K1 plug? Message-ID: <602713B0-5C16-4B9C-B903-6E09747D6EE1@liberty.edu> I'm wanting to adapt my U94 PTT system that connects my mic/headset to a radio. This model uses the Kenwood K1 adapter. I was (initially) thinking that I would just need two patch cables as the KX3 has the mic and speaker sockets separated. However, looking at the diagrams of the TRS plug for the Kenwood mic and the TRRS for the KX3 it doesn't look like it will work without swapping wires. Has anybody seen such an adapter, or am I just mixed up? (My headset is only a mono version, not stereo, but that shouldn't have any impact on my problem.) Jeff - kg7hdz From flymustangs at hotmail.com Wed Aug 12 22:44:37 2020 From: flymustangs at hotmail.com (Ken Simmons) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:44:37 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] FW: KX3 / PX3 For Sale In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: They are both sold. Thanks for the interest. Ken WR7D From: Ken Simmons Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:11 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / PX3 For Sale I?m willing to split the KX3 and PX3. There a couple of people interested in just the PX3, but no sale yet. If the price isn?t reasonable, please make an offer. I would like to pick up a KX2 by the end of the month so I have it for a Labor Day road trip. If anyone has one they want to part with, I would be interested. Thanks. Ken WR7D From: Ken Simmons Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:19 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / PX3 For Sale I?ve decided to go with a KX2 and need to sell this combo. Here?s what?s included: KX3 bought used. Ser# 9550 PX3 bought new just a little over a month ago. Ser# 3975 Internal tuner, Internal RTC/battery charger, Roofing filter, MH3 Microphone, Side KX side panels and cover (for the KX3 only). ES80 case, cable set, USB cable, paddles from QRPGuys, portable book by Fred Cady. Everything in excellent condition. $1850 shipped within the US. Thanks. Ken WR7D ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbda7548bf8e04d06726c08d83ee2c3b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637328490946960392&sdata=8XUfbrnOC1rAo%2BDhKNQ8sNfvCUElmMzofUTds%2F9gQCU%3D&reserved=0 Help: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbda7548bf8e04d06726c08d83ee2c3b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637328490946960392&sdata=IkUsAqgA5X11DoQhEDCWSXk43bYvvI4t5whmZ2z6mzs%3D&reserved=0 Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbda7548bf8e04d06726c08d83ee2c3b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637328490946965381&sdata=yXp5VO4Hj0cR4bihN4A3QCOjUx2%2Fq5o8rAm9yvcLoLs%3D&reserved=0 Please help support this email list: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbda7548bf8e04d06726c08d83ee2c3b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637328490946965381&sdata=YuM9Arwfe%2BS41z3AP6vfR5Pvb9GLredSpDIc%2BkQ1oQw%3D&reserved=0 Message delivered to flymustangs at hotmail.com From N8WL at ARRL.NET Wed Aug 12 22:55:02 2020 From: N8WL at ARRL.NET (N8WL) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:55:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3/100 w/ATU, Factory-built and Reconditioned Message-ID: <1597287302052-0.post@n2.nabble.com> For Sale: Elecraft K3/100, factory built, S/N1626. The unit was factory reconditioned (with all hardware updates) and aligned three years ago, works perfectly, and comes from a non-smoking, pet-free home. It has the most recent firmware available. It is in great condition with no scratches. The screen is very clean and the controls are all clean and function perfectly. I have acquired a K3S and I don?t need this rig now. Purchase includes power cable, manuals, documentation, Fred Cady KE7X K3 Handbook, and the MH2 hand microphone. Will be shipped in the original box and packing materials. $1650 includes shipping insured CONUS ? PayPal only. More photos available. Full disclosure: My shack was struck by lightning 5-6-17 and this rig sustained damage. I sent it to Elecraft and they totally repaired it (for $559), documented all the work, updated all the hardware, and did a final checkout, calibration, and alignment. It looks like new, and if I didn?t tell you about the lightning hit, you would never know it. The included factory documentation states that this rig ?meets or exceeds all factory specifications.? I don?t want the buyer to think I am withholding this information. This rig had several options that I transferred to my new K3S, but what is left is listed below. Also, I am the third owner of this K3, and both previous owners have taken excellent care of it, as have I. It is in pristine condition, everything works perfectly, and the buyer will be very pleased. Includes: 100 W Amplifier Option 2.7 KHz filter ? installed KAT3-F 100 W ATU - Factory Installed KXV3A RX Ant., IF Out and Xverter Interface KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder, not installed Power Cable MH2 Hand Microphone Owner?s Manual Fred Cady KE7X K3 Handbook All previous receipts and factory documentation -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From dbthompson at me.com Thu Aug 13 10:43:51 2020 From: dbthompson at me.com (David Thompson) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 07:43:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K1-4 w/ATU, backlight mod, and wire tilt bail In-Reply-To: <1597023660940-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597023660940-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Steve asked me to post that the K1 is sold. > On Aug 9, 2020, at 18:41, N8WL wrote: > > For Sale: Elecraft K1 Portable QRP CW Transceiver, S/N 3225. David Thompson, AG7TX Jack of All Trades Master of None dbthompson at me.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Aug 13 11:24:19 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] XV144 External XVRTR connection to the KIO3B In-Reply-To: <72105AE7-9DC9-443C-8FD1-4190C112B47F@yahoo.com> References: <72105AE7-9DC9-443C-8FD1-4190C112B47F.ref@yahoo.com> <72105AE7-9DC9-443C-8FD1-4190C112B47F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65083e55-1345-7a85-2449-1917478f2622@embarqmail.com> Alan, The K3 to XV144 Control Cable connects to the K3 ACC connector (not the RS232 connector). Build the cable as shown on page 11 of the manual. Connect as shown on pages 4 and 5. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/12/2020 1:54 PM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote: > I have a finished and tested XV144 that was meant to pair with my K2 but issues prevented me from > adding the necessary features to my K2. Here I am years later wanting to now use this NIB XVRTR on > my fully upgraded K3 and the only ?control? connection to the KIO3B seems to be from the 144?s DB-9 > to the KIO3B?s RS232/RJ45. I have alan extra Elecraft K3/P3 ?X"cable (E980297) which is the correct > form-factor. Will this work for me if I follow the rules in the K3S manual and on page 5 of the XVRTR Users manual > Rev F1 of 2013? Thanks for any help or cautions. > From dick.w7zr at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 12:48:58 2020 From: dick.w7zr at gmail.com (Richard Zalewski) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Low Gain KPA1500 Message-ID: Everything worked fine yesterday...Today for no apparent reason getting Low Gain fault on most bands. Did a retune for band segments. It tunes fine but in operate at same power level get fault. Ratio anywhere from 1 to 4. Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* From dick.w7zr at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 13:04:16 2020 From: dick.w7zr at gmail.com (Richard Zalewski) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:04:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Low Gain KPA1500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: More Info: Same into DL Re-seated power cable. Control cable is secured with bolts Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 9:48 AM Richard Zalewski wrote: > Everything worked fine yesterday...Today for no apparent reason getting > Low Gain fault on most bands. Did a retune for band segments. It > tunes fine but in operate at same power level get fault. Ratio anywhere > from 1 to 4. > > Richard > *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, > J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV > > > *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* > From michaelkn9p at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 13:06:38 2020 From: michaelkn9p at gmail.com (Michael Ortlieb) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:06:38 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Panadapter for Sale: LP Pan II and Behringer sound card great panadapter used with NaP3 or Win4K3 suite. Software sold separately. $195.00 shipped CONUS. Bank check money order. Please reply Message-ID: off line. KN9N 920-853-7073 From ockmrzr at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 14:09:44 2020 From: ockmrzr at gmail.com (ockmrzr at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:09:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Low Gain KPA1500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <311401d6719c$ece907a0$c6bb16e0$@gmail.com> I had the same issue, had to send in to Elecraft. Download the faults file using the utility, and send to Elecraft Service, they will tell you what happened and what to do. 73 de Bruce, N7TY Yuma, AZ www.qsl.net/n7ty -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski Sent: August 13, 2020 10:04 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low Gain KPA1500 More Info: Same into DL Re-seated power cable. Control cable is secured with bolts Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 9:48 AM Richard Zalewski wrote: > Everything worked fine yesterday...Today for no apparent reason > getting Low Gain fault on most bands. Did a retune for band segments. > It tunes fine but in operate at same power level get fault. Ratio > anywhere from 1 to 4. > > Richard > *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, > W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, > XE2DV > > > *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ockmrzr at gmail.com From dick.w7zr at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 14:20:28 2020 From: dick.w7zr at gmail.com (Richard Zalewski) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:20:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Low Gain KPA1500 In-Reply-To: <311401d6719c$ece907a0$c6bb16e0$@gmail.com> References: <311401d6719c$ece907a0$c6bb16e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I downloaded file and sent...now waiting for response from Elecraft. Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM wrote: > I had the same issue, had to send in to Elecraft. Download the faults file > using the utility, and send to Elecraft Service, they will tell you what > happened and what to do. > > 73 de Bruce, N7TY > Yuma, AZ > www.qsl.net/n7ty > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > On > Behalf Of Richard Zalewski > Sent: August 13, 2020 10:04 > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low Gain KPA1500 > > More Info: > Same into DL > Re-seated power cable. > Control cable is secured with bolts > > > Richard > *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, > J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV > > > *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 9:48 AM Richard Zalewski > wrote: > > > Everything worked fine yesterday...Today for no apparent reason > > getting Low Gain fault on most bands. Did a retune for band segments. > > It tunes fine but in operate at same power level get fault. Ratio > > anywhere from 1 to 4. > > > > Richard > > *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, > > W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, > > XE2DV > > > > > > *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to ockmrzr at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dick.w7zr at gmail.com > From w2kj at bellsouth.net Thu Aug 13 16:00:45 2020 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:00:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX3 Left/Right side panels References: <398E2355-4740-4D04-9BEF-490041B1A951.ref@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <398E2355-4740-4D04-9BEF-490041B1A951@bellsouth.net> Howdy Gang. Wondering if anyone out there has spare KX3 left/right side panels for sale? Many thanks. Stay healthy and enjoy. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From steven8wl at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 17:13:38 2020 From: steven8wl at gmail.com (Steven Katz) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 17:13:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K1-4 w/ATU, backlight mod, and wire tilt bail In-Reply-To: <1597023660940-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597023660940-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: SOLD! From steven8wl at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 17:16:20 2020 From: steven8wl at gmail.com (Steven Katz) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 17:16:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: KX1 for 40/20M, with paddle and ATU. MINT! In-Reply-To: <1597175291545-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597175291545-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0b316e0b-eafa-d5c2-82cd-841c5a364e37@gmail.com> SOLD! From d_hudson at outlook.com Thu Aug 13 17:37:58 2020 From: d_hudson at outlook.com (Douglas Hudson) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 21:37:58 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX3 Left/Right side panels In-Reply-To: <398E2355-4740-4D04-9BEF-490041B1A951@bellsouth.net> References: <398E2355-4740-4D04-9BEF-490041B1A951.ref@bellsouth.net> <398E2355-4740-4D04-9BEF-490041B1A951@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Joe, I have extra sets of both the KX3 and PX3. Both are a bit scratched up but they are yours for the postage. If interested, contact me off list at d_hudson at outlook.com. Doug K7CUU -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Joseph Trombino, Jr Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:01 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX3 Left/Right side panels Howdy Gang. Wondering if anyone out there has spare KX3 left/right side panels for sale? Many thanks. Stay healthy and enjoy. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d_hudson at outlook.com From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 13 22:37:52 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 02:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] List of SSB nets References: <2048215878.1498440.1597372672094.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2048215878.1498440.1597372672094@mail.yahoo.com> Here are the SSB Nets that take place on Sundays. You do nothave to have an Elecraft Radio to check in to the net. We ask for the callsign, name, state, type of radio. If it is an Elecraft radio the model andserial number. 20 m. 1800Z??14.303.5???? Net Control EricWB9JNZ??????? IL 40 m. 1900Z??????7280??????? Net Control SteveWM6P?????? GA 80 m.? 0100Z????? 3942??????? Net Control Paul??? KB9AVO???IN I could not put this on the list of stations checking in to the net as it became too large. Hope to hear you on one or more of the nets. Eric Lanzl WB9JNZ From mikekopacki at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 09:08:26 2020 From: mikekopacki at gmail.com (NJMike) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 06:08:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 KAT100 wanted! Message-ID: <1597410506454-0.post@n2.nabble.com> I am once again looking for a KAT100 ATU for my K2/100. Although I prefer the -1 model (slim line), I will take the -2 model, either one in kit or assembled. Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From nelasat at yahoo.com Fri Aug 14 09:45:47 2020 From: nelasat at yahoo.com (Keith Ennis) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KV5J's line of Digital Displays for Elecraft's W2, KXPA100, KPA500, and KPA1500 References: <170014741.1491117.1597412747296.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <170014741.1491117.1597412747296@mail.yahoo.com> Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's W2 Watt Meter: ?? With the digital read out the DDU takes the guess work out of the LED lights. ?? ? Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's KXPA100 amplifier: ?? Don't wait for a fault light to come on.? Keep an eye on 5 crucial readings at all times. 1. Power amplifier's heat sink temperature 2. Power amplifier's high voltage supply voltage 3. Power amplifier's current 4. Power amplifier's output power 5. SWR that the KXPA100 sees at its output ?? ? Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's KPA500 amplifier: ?? Instead of seeing only 1 crucial reading, monitor 5 at all times. 1. Power amplifier's heat sink temperature 2. Power amplifier's high voltage supply voltage 3. Power amplifier's current 4. Power amplifier's output power 5. SWR that the KPA500 sees at its output ?? ? Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's KPA1500 amplifier: ?? Displays the same display that is on the KPA1500 Amplifier? Change the display on the KPA1500 and the DDU changes ?? ? All of the Digital Display Units: ?? Display Unit can be located at a more visible location Up to the RS232 limit from unit Easy to read 2 line display No USB or serial cable to computer No com port in Windows to manage No computer needed Plug and Play Simply connect the SUPPLIED dc power cable (with inline on/off switch) from the DDU to power supply and SUPPLIED XCVR SERIAL data jumper cable to the device Retains all functions of the front panel All displayed info obtained directly from the device ?? Only 4" x 4" x 2" ?? For more information and ordering go to:? ?www.kv5j.com Thanks 73, Keith,KV5J From ptaa at ieee.org Fri Aug 14 11:59:16 2020 From: ptaa at ieee.org (Per-Tore Aasestrand) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:59:16 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Problem Message-ID: Hi, Still working on finding a solution to the below problem. Elecraft support said: "Since you are hearing signals, on frequency is presumed, only attenuated ~30 dB, The SYNTH circuit is not the first place I would look." Any suggestion wrt where to look first? I guess it must be somewhere on the RF Board. Where can I find the PCB layouts with components id's? 73, Per-Tore LA7NO --------------- The K3 suddenly stopped working. One day all OK, the next day serious problems. Serial no.: 07818. It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected. Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated. Supply: 14,5 VDC. Symptoms: - Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard. - No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3 hyphens). - Same on all bands. - All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal. - Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB. All menu settings seem to be OK. Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal. It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB attenuation. Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load. Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands. Same on both Ant1 and Ant2. Bypassed the ATU: no change. Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change. It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx. It is independent of the selected band. Apparently not related to ATU or PA. So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or LP-filters. Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed. From keith at elecraft.com Fri Aug 14 13:46:02 2020 From: keith at elecraft.com (Keith Trinity WE6R) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 10:46:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. Message-ID: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> Hi all; I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in for repair, August through October. It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem). Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary to do damage. Customer quotes; "I disconnected everything, EXCEPT..." then they list ONE item. Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone. Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. '73 Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech From k4to.dave at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 14:31:36 2020 From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:31:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> References: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> Message-ID: I don't know if this really helps or not, but I connect my computer to the internet through a WiFi. I have DSL which feeds a WiFi Router. That DSL modem and the router are the only things connected to the phone line. When lightning threatens I disconnect all power, ground, coax, rotator control cables, etc. Anything that goes to the outside world (including the station ground to the ground rod outside of my window is removed. I live on a ridge, the highest point in the county. The ground slopes down and away for 20 to 30 miles in all directions. I have two 150 foot towers and a 70 footer. The first ten years I was at this location I was hit 4 times by lightning. Then I instituted my disconnect policy. I have had no strikes in the last 20 years. The lightning strikes, but there has been no damage to equipment. The chassis to chassis bonding remains in place. Your results may differ. 73, Dave, K4TO On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 1:47 PM Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: > Hi all; > I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in > for repair, August through October. > > It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your > COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem). > Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary > to do damage. > > Customer quotes; "I disconnected everything, EXCEPT..." then they list > ONE item. > Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone. > Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > '73 > Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4to at arrl.net > From rthorne at rthorne.net Fri Aug 14 14:52:15 2020 From: rthorne at rthorne.net (Richard Thorne) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: References: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <06089a4c-e5e6-9189-158e-a696b09cd656@rthorne.net> I took a hit a year ago in September. To make a long story short my ham desk now has 3 connections: - A single Coax - 120v - 220v All antenna switching and rotor control is via Green Heron Everywhere wireless interfaces.? My rotor boxes and switches can still take a hit but the equipment on the operating desk won't, as long as I disconnect the 3 items listed above.? I do use power poles on my control cables so I can quickly disconnect the 3 rotor boxes from the outside world as well, I just need to remember to unplug them from power. Rich - N5ZC On 8/14/2020 1:31 PM, Dave Sublette wrote: > I don't know if this really helps or not, but I connect my computer to the > internet through a WiFi. I have DSL which feeds a WiFi Router. That DSL > modem and the router are the only things connected to the phone line. > > When lightning threatens I disconnect all power, ground, coax, rotator > control cables, etc. Anything that goes to the outside world (including > the station ground to the ground rod outside of my window is removed. > > I live on a ridge, the highest point in the county. The ground slopes down > and away for 20 to 30 miles in all directions. I have two 150 foot towers > and a 70 footer. The first ten years I was at this location I was hit 4 > times by lightning. Then I instituted my disconnect policy. I have had no > strikes in the last 20 years. The lightning strikes, but there has been no > damage to equipment. > > The chassis to chassis bonding remains in place. > > Your results may differ. > > 73, > > Dave, K4TO > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 1:47 PM Keith Trinity WE6R > wrote: > >> Hi all; >> I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in >> for repair, August through October. >> >> It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your >> COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem). >> Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary >> to do damage. >> >> Customer quotes; "I disconnected everything, EXCEPT..." then they list >> ONE item. >> Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone. >> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >> '73 >> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k4to at arrl.net >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rthorne at rthorne.net From rcrgs at verizon.net Fri Aug 14 15:51:02 2020 From: rcrgs at verizon.net (Robert G Strickland) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:51:02 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything about this one? Thanks ...robert -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rcrgs at verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA From ptaa at ieee.org Fri Aug 14 15:59:57 2020 From: ptaa at ieee.org (Per-Tore Aasestrand) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:59:57 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Measured voltages over the PIN-diodes D26 & D27. In Rx: 0,72 VDC. over both. In Tx, the voltages varied a bit around 0,4-0,6 VDC. While in TX, even with power set to 0,0W, one of the transistors in the LPA is getting quite hot. Cools down when switching over to Rx. P-T On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 17:59, Per-Tore Aasestrand wrote: > Hi, > > Still working on finding a solution to the below problem. > > Elecraft support said: > > "Since you are hearing signals, on frequency is presumed, only attenuated > ~30 dB, > The SYNTH circuit is not the first place I would look." > > Any suggestion wrt where to look first? > I guess it must be somewhere on the RF Board. > > Where can I find the PCB layouts with components id's? > > 73, > > Per-Tore > LA7NO > > --------------- > > The K3 suddenly stopped working. > One day all OK, the next day serious problems. > > Serial no.: 07818. > It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected. > Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated. > Supply: 14,5 VDC. > > Symptoms: > - Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard. > - No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3 > hyphens). > - Same on all bands. > - All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal. > - Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB. > > All menu settings seem to be OK. > > Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal. > It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB > attenuation. > > Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load. > Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands. > Same on both Ant1 and Ant2. > Bypassed the ATU: no change. > Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change. > > It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx. > It is independent of the selected band. > Apparently not related to ATU or PA. > > So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or > LP-filters. > > Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed. > > From ab2tc at arrl.net Fri Aug 14 16:18:25 2020 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:18:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1597436305978-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Robert and all, All I know about it is that I got one like that, too, and fairly quickly deleted it. It may not be an outright scam, but it certainly didn't interest me (I am a casual contester participating most years in the major and some not so major contests). I am also not sure if an *increase* in ranking means a move toward the top or the bottom. AB2TC - Knut PS. Google does not recognize "World Amateur Radio Contesting Association". Elecraft mailing list wrote > I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting > Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just > increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but > thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything about > this one? Thanks > > ...robert > -- > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > rcrgs at .net > Syracuse, New York, USA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto: > Elecraft at .qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to > lists+1215531472858-365791 at .nabble -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From nv4c.ian at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 16:22:36 2020 From: nv4c.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn, NV4C) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:22:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84.ref@verizon.net> <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> Message-ID: All, I received the same email several weeks ago. I followed up by Googling the organization and checking out their web site (using a Linux system I didn't care if I had to nuke when done). They are a fairly new group, established within the last year(if I remember correctly). I don't know that they're a scam, but they really need to do something to build up their cred if they want to be accepted by the global ham community. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On 8/14/20 3:51 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote: > I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting > Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just > increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but > thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything > about this one? Thanks > > ...robert From alex.k2bb at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 18:05:17 2020 From: alex.k2bb at gmail.com (Alex Malyava) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:05:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: <1597436305978-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> <1597436305978-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: it is kinda legit :) go to https://www.warca.org/ this project was started by Gene W3UA and company, check their "About Us" section. what they do - they try to maintain more or less leveled ratings for contest ops.... not only by score, but also by power level and location. something like if somebody took first place in CQWW from Maine and another guy took second place from PA - his rating will be adjusted for PA location and he might get a higher rating, because he was doing much better from PA then somebody half-way closer to Europe... Alex K2BB, #4968 in that list :) On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 4:19 PM ab2tc wrote: > Hi Robert and all, > > All I know about it is that I got one like that, too, and fairly quickly > deleted it. It may not be an outright scam, but it certainly didn't > interest > me (I am a casual contester participating most years in the major and some > not so major contests). I am also not sure if an *increase* in ranking > means > a move toward the top or the bottom. > > AB2TC - Knut > > PS. Google does not recognize "World Amateur Radio Contesting > Association". > > > Elecraft mailing list wrote > > I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting > > Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just > > increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but > > thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything about > > this one? Thanks > > > > ...robert > > -- > > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > > > rcrgs at .net > > > Syracuse, New York, USA > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto: > > > Elecraft at .qth > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to > > > lists+1215531472858-365791 at .nabble > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alex.k2bb at gmail.com > From n0nb at n0nb.us Fri Aug 14 18:22:04 2020 From: n0nb at n0nb.us (Nate Bargmann) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84.ref@verizon.net> <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20200814222204.67oyuw3sgh5723rf@n0nb.us> It seems to me to only be a scam if the email is trying to sell something beyond reason, probing for bank/credit card account numbers, or seeking personal information unrelated to amateur radio. Whether it is of interest to the recipient or not does not automatically make something a scam. I'd not heard of the group before. I think I'll check them out. Thanks! 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 From jfrake73 at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 20:33:31 2020 From: jfrake73 at gmail.com (jack frake) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: <20200814222204.67oyuw3sgh5723rf@n0nb.us> References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84.ref@verizon.net> <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> <20200814222204.67oyuw3sgh5723rf@n0nb.us> Message-ID: >From what I'm hearing from my contest buddies, it IS legit... On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:22 PM Nate Bargmann wrote: > It seems to me to only be a scam if the email is trying to sell > something beyond reason, probing for bank/credit card account numbers, > or seeking personal information unrelated to amateur radio. Whether it > is of interest to the recipient or not does not automatically make > something a scam. > > I'd not heard of the group before. I think I'll check them out. > Thanks! > > 73, Nate, N0NB > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Web: https://www.n0nb.us > Projects: https://github.com/N0NB > GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jfrake73 at gmail.com > From radioprincegeorge at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 21:07:48 2020 From: radioprincegeorge at gmail.com (Don Pomplun) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:07:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <06089a4c-e5e6-9189-158e-a696b09cd656@rthorne.net> References: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> <06089a4c-e5e6-9189-158e-a696b09cd656@rthorne.net> Message-ID: I signed up for the ARRL-sponsored equipment insurance, which covers lightning. I also have PARADAN grounding boxes to bleed off "charge".? In 3 trees around the house, I have "lightning rods" (air terminals, now) at the 70' level, with the antenna 50' off the ground. K2BIO On 8/14/2020 2:52 PM, Richard Thorne wrote: > I took a hit a year ago in September. > > To make a long story short my ham desk now has 3 connections: > > - A single Coax > > From n0nb at n0nb.us Fri Aug 14 22:46:42 2020 From: n0nb at n0nb.us (Nate Bargmann) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:46:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84.ref@verizon.net> <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> <20200814222204.67oyuw3sgh5723rf@n0nb.us> Message-ID: <20200815024642.a34s4dlrbljn2php@n0nb.us> * On 2020 14 Aug 19:36 -0500, jack frake wrote: > From what I'm hearing from my contest buddies, it IS legit... Looking through the site I agree. It's quite a project and undertaking. I did not delve deeply into the details but if I understand their goal it is to separate the operator skill from geographic location and rank operators accordingly. They're also weighting various events based on certain criteria. I'm not in the list as I've not operated any of the qualifying events for the past several years, not that I'd be very far from the bottom anyway! 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 From john at kk9a.com Fri Aug 14 23:02:43 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 23:02:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. Message-ID: <000301d672b0$8bbfed30$a33fc790$@com> Disconnecting is not a reliable way to protect your home and station from a lightning strike. A strike can induce high voltage into your home wiring without the antenna being connected and cause a lot of damage. There are many papers on lightning protection, proper single point grounding is a good start. John KK9A From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 23:29:12 2020 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:29:12 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] contest ranking - is this a scam? In-Reply-To: <20200815024642.a34s4dlrbljn2php@n0nb.us> References: <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84.ref@verizon.net> <4396fa82-05be-2a0d-6825-0b2a0137ea84@verizon.net> <20200814222204.67oyuw3sgh5723rf@n0nb.us> <20200815024642.a34s4dlrbljn2php@n0nb.us> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 20:46 Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2020 14 Aug 19:36 -0500, jack frake wrote: > > From what I'm hearing from my contest buddies, it IS legit... > > Looking through the site I agree. It's quite a project and undertaking. > I did not delve deeply into the details but if I understand their goal > it is to separate the operator skill from geographic location and rank > operators accordingly. They're also weighting various events based on > certain criteria. > > I'm not in the list as I've not operated any of the qualifying events > for the past several years, not that I'd be very far from the bottom > anyway! > > 73, Nate, N0NB > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Web: https://www.n0nb.us > Projects: https://github.com/N0NB > GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to elecraftcovers at gmail.com > From n6tv at arrl.net Sat Aug 15 00:01:12 2020 From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:01:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar wrote: > is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency > span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > less on data modes. Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. > Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? Probably it will work the same as a K3. > Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This > requires a MME format. > I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. 73, Bob, N6TV From w1srd at yahoo.com Sat Aug 15 00:20:19 2020 From: w1srd at yahoo.com (Steve Dyer) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:20:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <089d04c8-66d7-22df-631c-21f68656ab89@yahoo.com> I hope they follow Flex Radio's lead and have something similar to DAX to share out the audio. Really makes it clean and easy. The idea of having to connect another SDR is so 2000. 73, Steve W1SRD (In the dark in ELDO county waiting for PG&E...) On 8/14/2020 21:01, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar wrote: > >> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency >> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or >> less on data modes. > > Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) > has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. > > >> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > > Probably it will work the same as a K3. > > >> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This >> requires a MME format. >> > I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > > 73, > Bob, N6TV > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w1srd at yahoo.com From ars.nc0jw at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 00:50:42 2020 From: ars.nc0jw at gmail.com (Jim White NC0JW) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 22:50:42 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20 Meter SSB Net Sunday, August 8, 2020 Message-ID: <928BA551-DCC1-4759-858C-1BC710FA7610@gmail.com> Our illustrious net control Eric, WB9JNZ is having some computer issues this week so I am submitting the Elecraft 20 Meter SSB net report. QSB was with us again this week as it has been for quite some time. There was surprising short skip along with the QSB. Information about the K4 presented during the Virtual Ham Expo was the number one topic of conversation and along with nothing but positive mentions of Elecraft (Eric and Wayne's) participation in the Expo. Twenty-eight checkins were recorded with the always appreciated help from the relay stations. WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control N6JW John CA K3 936 Relay Station KO5V Jim NM K2/100 7225 Relay Station K8NU Carl WA K3S 10996 Remote Station NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 Relay Station WM6P Steve GA K3S 11453 Relay Station N6PGQ Bob CA K3 5891 W7QHD Kurt AZ K2/100 1583 KS7D Mike FL K3 118 N7BDL Terry AZ K3S 10373 W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 AE6JV Bill NH K3 6299 KB8AVO Paul IN K3S 11103 KC1ACL Steve NM KX3/QRP10677 N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 Relay Station K6WDE Dave CA KX3 4599 AE1E Ken NM K3S 11611 K7JG John WA KX3 3519 VE7DGT Joel BC Yaesu FT-818 K6VWE Stan MI K3 650 K7BRR Bill OR K3S 10939 W1NGA Al CO KX2/QRP2002 NS7P Phil OR K3 1826 Relay Station K0JFJ Nick MN K2/10 7937 KA6MOKJohn CA K2/10 1251 N0MPM Mike IA K3S 10514 AE6XC Ray CA K3 5815 K6SBA Dave CA K2 1371 The Sunday Elecraft SSB Nets begins with the 20 Meter Net at 1800 UTC on or about 14.3035 MHz with Eric WB9JNZ as Net Control in Chicago. The 40 Meter SSB net follows at 1900 UTC with Steve WM6P in Georgia serving as net control on 7.280 MHz. At 0100 UTC the 80 Meter SSB Net meets on 3.942 MHz with Net Control Paul KB9AVO from Indiana. With propagation at a low point we employ several relay stations located around the continental USA to assist with check ins. As conditions permit we take questions and comments after check ins. Give one or all of the SSB nets a try this Sunday. Jim White - NC0JW ars.nc0jw at gmail.com From barrylazar2 at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 01:39:00 2020 From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry LaZar) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 01:39:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob, ??? Thanks much for the response. 73, Barry K3NDM On 8/15/2020 12:01 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar > wrote: > > ?is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the > frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > less on data modes. > > > Span and center frequency are adjustable.? Fixed or tracking mode is > available.? Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off > screen) has different options, similar to P3:? full page, half page, > slide, etc. > > Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on?the K4D? > > > Probably it will work the same as a K3. > > Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; > This requires a MME format. > > > I don't think that will work.? Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > would be a simpler way to do it.? A program like HDSDR can keep the > SDR frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > > 73, > Bob, N6TV > From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat Aug 15 02:27:02 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 02:27:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81B86CC6-8639-4888-9791-88EC60AA23D1@widomaker.com> Barry Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed as a question or suggestion? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > > ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar wrote: > >> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency >> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or >> less on data modes. > > > Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) > has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. > > >> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > > > Probably it will work the same as a K3. > > >> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This >> requires a MME format. >> > > I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > > 73, > Bob, N6TV > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From w2ljqrp at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 07:36:07 2020 From: w2ljqrp at gmail.com (Larry Makoski) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 07:36:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - tomorrow! Message-ID: Tomorrow, Sunday August 16th is the 9th running of the NJQRP Skeeter Hunt. 277 of you have signed up for Skeeter numbers, so there should be lots of activity out there. Our fingers are crossed that the Propagation Princess will be in a good mood and will cooperate. This is an all time record number of Skeeters - NJQRP thanks each and every one of you for participating. It's not too late to sign up for a number, I'll be issuing them right up to about 10:00 AM EDT tomorrow for any late comers - just send an e-amil to w2lj at arrl.net and I'll send you an e-mail back with your Skeeter Number for 2020. If anyone is fuzzy about the rules, please visit http://www.qsl.net/w2lj - the rules are easy and not cumbersome. The exchange is easy and the main goal of this exercize is to provide ample fun - no jumping through hoops here. Lastly, in these COVID times, please remember to stay safe. Back yard operations with a temporary antenna and a power source other than your home's commercial mains count as portable for the Skeeter Hunt. No need to go off into the public if you feel safer at home. If you do venture out, please keep yourself safe by observing your area's restrictions (i.e facial coverings, social distancing and above all Common Sense). We at NJQRP want to have you all back next year for the 10th Anniversary of the NJQRP Skeeter Hunt. Go out there, be careful and have fun! Hope to hear you and get your call signs in the log! 72 de Larry W2LJ - Contest Manager - Skeeter # 13 From jasimmons at pinewooddata.com Sat Aug 15 08:48:50 2020 From: jasimmons at pinewooddata.com (John Simmons) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 07:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <000301d672b0$8bbfed30$a33fc790$@com> References: <000301d672b0$8bbfed30$a33fc790$@com> Message-ID: <366d6836-0230-aaee-1697-3bee005265f0@pinewooddata.com> Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver -- 73, -John NI0K https://www.qrz.com/db/NI0K john at kk9a.com wrote on 8/14/2020 10:02 PM: > Disconnecting is not a reliable way to protect your home and station from a > lightning strike. A strike can induce high voltage into your home wiring > without the antenna being connected and cause a lot of damage. There are > many papers on lightning protection, proper single point grounding is a good > start. > > John KK9A > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jasimmons at pinewooddata.com From flymustangs at hotmail.com Sat Aug 15 11:03:31 2020 From: flymustangs at hotmail.com (Ken Simmons) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 15:03:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] General Purpose Outputs on KX2 Message-ID: Is anyone using the General Purpose Outputs on the KX2 that comes with the KXIO2 board? It says they are user programmable, but to what extent? Thanks. Ken WR7D From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat Aug 15 11:22:32 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:22:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, IQ data will be available. Wayne N6KR ---- elecraft.com > On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > ?I just saw the presentation Eric gave on the K4. It is really impressive. However, I've never been able to get the answer to a few questions. First, is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or less on data modes. Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This requires a MME format. > > > I'm sure I will have additional questions over time. But, these are my present burning questions. I now have a K3s and think it's a fantastic radio. > > > 73, > > Barry > > K3NDM > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From k3ndm at comcast.net Sat Aug 15 11:42:48 2020 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:42:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: <81B86CC6-8639-4888-9791-88EC60AA23D1@widomaker.com> References: <81B86CC6-8639-4888-9791-88EC60AA23D1@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Bill, I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. 73, Barry K3NDM On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: > Barry > > Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed > as a question or suggestion? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > > > > ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar > wrote: > > > >> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency > >> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > >> less on data modes. > > > > > > Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > > available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) > > has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. > > > > > >> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > > > > > > Probably it will work the same as a K3. > > > > > >> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This > >> requires a MME format. > >> > > > > I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > > would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > > frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > > > > 73, > > Bob, N6TV > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > From w4sc at windstream.net Sat Aug 15 11:47:41 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:47:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KRX3A Sync AM Mode K3S not working? Message-ID: Sync AM mode appears to not be working. Been though B-Set selecting mode(s),, Not ?tracking?, envelope detection OK. Latest firmware installed (5.67MCU and 2.88DSP). DSP f/w fix? Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 15 11:51:07 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:51:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <366d6836-0230-aaee-1697-3bee005265f0@pinewooddata.com> References: <000301d672b0$8bbfed30$a33fc790$@com> <366d6836-0230-aaee-1697-3bee005265f0@pinewooddata.com> Message-ID: <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote: > Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. 73, Jim K9YC From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 11:53:40 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: References: <81B86CC6-8639-4888-9791-88EC60AA23D1@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <9D5F9610-2293-4806-B00C-02A9EE37571E@gmail.com> I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 minute Q&As at the Expo. I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB. But I could be mistaken, since I?m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver?s license ? if I can remember where that is :-) Whichever it is, it didn?t sound like it was going to be a first release feature. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > Bill, > I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: > >> Barry >> >> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed >> as a question or suggestion? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: >>> >>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar >> wrote: >>> >>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency >>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or >>>> less on data modes. >>> >>> >>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is >>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) >>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. >>> >>> >>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? >>> >>> >>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. >>> >>> >>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This >>>> requires a MME format. >>>> >>> >>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT >>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR >>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. >>> >>> 73, >>> Bob, N6TV >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com From k3ndm at comcast.net Sat Aug 15 11:54:51 2020 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:54:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Questions In-Reply-To: <9D5F9610-2293-4806-B00C-02A9EE37571E@gmail.com> References: <81B86CC6-8639-4888-9791-88EC60AA23D1@widomaker.com> <9D5F9610-2293-4806-B00C-02A9EE37571E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Grant, I know how you feel. It seems I'm missing a bunch of information. I guess it must be my advancing age. 73, Barry K3NDM On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 AM Grant Youngman wrote: > I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 > minute Q&As at the Expo. > > I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was > possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB. But I could be mistaken, since > I?m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver?s license ? if I > can remember where that is :-) > > Whichever it is, it didn?t sound like it was going to be a first release > feature. > > Grant NQ5T > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > > > Bill, > > I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. > > > > 73, > > Barry > > K3NDM > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: > > > >> Barry > >> > >> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it > posed > >> as a question or suggestion? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> ...nr4c. bill > >> > >> > >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > >>> > >>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the > frequency > >>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > >>>> less on data modes. > >>> > >>> > >>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > >>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off > screen) > >>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, > etc. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > >>> > >>> > >>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; > This > >>>> requires a MME format. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > >>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > >>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Bob, N6TV > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > > From radioham at mchsi.com Sat Aug 15 12:00:45 2020 From: radioham at mchsi.com (David Christ) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <000301d672b0$8bbfed30$a33fc790$@com> <366d6836-0230-aaee-1697-3bee005265f0@pinewooddata.com> <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Ward Silver also gave a presentation on this at the QSOtoday virtual hamfest. Still available for watching. David K0LUM > On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote: >> Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver > > Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radioham at mchsi.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 15 12:08:05 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:08:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <000301d672b0$8bbfed30$a33fc790$@com> <366d6836-0230-aaee-1697-3bee005265f0@pinewooddata.com> <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <2bc6f9a5-ce97-2d1d-0859-0fd477729f3f@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/15/2020 8:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral > ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. forgot the link. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From Mike.Carter at unh.edu Sat Aug 15 12:24:54 2020 From: Mike.Carter at unh.edu (Mike K8CN) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:24:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1597508694925-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Per-Tore, Can you identify which transistor (or other device) on the LPA module is getting hot in transmit mode? The drain terminals of MOSFET PA transistors Q4 and Q5 receive +12V regardless of TX or RX mode, but the gate bias voltages are applied only in TX mode. Unless there's a problem with the bias regulator circuit (U1), the RF amplifier chain on the LPA module should not be getting that warm. It is also possible that one of the RF power transistors may be getting hot because it is no longer making good thermal contact with the bottom cover panel - it would be good to check the tightness of the three screws holding those transistors against the bottom panel. Is it possible for you to carefully extract the LPA module from the main RF board? That requires removal of the rear panel of the bottom cover, and you may need new thermal pads for the RF transistors if those pads are damaged by removal of the cover panel. If you can remove the LPA module, you might try RX mode ONLY with the Power control set to 0 (to ensure that the KPA3 PA is bypassed by its relay K1) and see if your receive sensitivity is restored. The output side of the LPA module is nominally connected only in TX mode to the antenna path via diode D1 on the LPA module, and if the D1 switch is operating properly one would not expect the high attenuation of signals in RX mode. The output of the LPA module is also connected to the input of the 100 W PA module at the same point on the T/R switch circuit, but that module is bypassed by relay K1 on the KPAIO3 board. I'm not yet sure how the overheating of a device on the LPA board is connected to the loss of RX sensitivity. If the diode switch D1 on the LPA module has failed shorted (unlikely), then it would leave the output circuitry of the LPA module bridged across the antenna signal path in RX mode. Keep us posted on what you learn! 73, Mike, K8CN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From m1kta.gqrp at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 13:11:19 2020 From: m1kta.gqrp at gmail.com (M1KTA) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:11:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] S Meter RX numbers? Message-ID: <1597511479291-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Where in the physical chain of an KX3 are the RX s-meter signals obtained/derived? 72 Dom M1KTA -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From johndaws85 at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 14:12:27 2020 From: johndaws85 at gmail.com (john daws) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:12:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA connection Message-ID: <1597515147011-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Have had this working fine for a year until 2 months ago KX3 connected briefly to the KXPA100 and then cut out. The SYS LED light showed on the KXPA100 Have replaced PSU believing it to be a fault here. Have sent KXPA100 to Waters and Stanton (UK) for inspection and returned with clean bill of health. Reconnected using the 'KX3 to KXPA100 adapter cable' and replaced both 25 amp fuses. Same 'fault': KX3 cuts out straight away and no response at all now from the KXPA100 Could a new set of adapter cables now be the answer?? (The KX3 works fine on the KX33 low power RFI supply) Not a very technical person so please be gentle!! Thanks for any thoughts John -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From skjasper at att.net Sat Aug 15 14:56:48 2020 From: skjasper at att.net (NE9U - Scott Jasper) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:56:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards References: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383@att.net> What does this mean?? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired?? Obsolete??? "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. '73 Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech ?Scott - NE9U Sent from my Cray-1 skjasper73 at gmail.com skjasper at att.net ne9u at arrl.net? From elecraft.list at videotron.ca Sat Aug 15 15:58:59 2020 From: elecraft.list at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 15:58:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] There is a new release of Win4K3Suite Message-ID: <014c01d6733e$84cad420$8e607c60$@videotron.ca> Hello, There is a new version of Win4K3Suite available. This release includes direct logging into Log4OM version 2 and some improvements to the ClubLog spotting module. Win4K3Suite is a full featured control program for the K3/S, KX3 and KX2. It has a built in Panadapter that works with LPPAN and a sound card, as well as the SDRPlay RSP's. It supports the KAT500, KPA500/1500 and the KXPA100 on most of the above radios. A unique feature is that is has 6 built in Virtual Radios, each of which works just like an Elecraft radio. This allows sharing of a single COM port with up to 6 applications. It also has a built in HRDLogbook server and the EiBi Shortwave database. You see more information here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite and download a fully functional 30 day trial at va2fsq.com 73 Tom va2fsq.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat Aug 15 16:20:21 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:20:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] S Meter RX numbers? In-Reply-To: <1597511479291-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597511479291-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <653DBDF8-42C9-4FB1-8C98-3935C6720E13@elecraft.com> In the DSP. This is the case for most SDRs. 73, Wayne N6KR ---- elecraft.com > On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:13 AM, M1KTA wrote: > > ?Where in the physical chain of an KX3 are the RX s-meter signals > obtained/derived? > > 72 > Dom > M1KTA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From w4sc at windstream.net Sat Aug 15 16:22:48 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For sale K3 with some K3S upgrades Message-ID: Purchased this radio for a backup rig. Saving for a K4. Elecraft K3 (s/n 6995) with KAT3, KPA3, KRX3 sub RX, 8 pole filters (KFL3A-2.8, KFL3A-1.8, KFL3A-400) in main and sub receivers . K3S module updates include KSYN3As and KXV3B with 2nd pre-amp. Elecraft manuals, USB-RS232 adapter cable, KE7X "The Elecraft K3" book, MH2 microphone, DC cable, MFJ-4125 25A PS included. All you need is a "shack" and antenna. Checked out, excellent $2300 includes double boxed insured US ground shipping. Email off list for payment options. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From eric at elecraft.com Sat Aug 15 16:31:48 2020 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:31:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383@att.net> References: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383.ref@att.net> <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383@att.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott, Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and repairs for the K3 and K3S. What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) 73, Eric *elecraft.com * On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper wrote: > What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? > Obsolete??? > > "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." > > Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > '73 > Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > > > ?Scott - NE9U > > Sent from my Cray-1 > > skjasper73 at gmail.com > skjasper at att.net > ne9u at arrl.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From eric at elecraft.com Sat Aug 15 16:35:39 2020 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:35:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. In-Reply-To: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> References: <114accb3-166c-45ab-fb09-fc8e6761498e@elecraft.com> Message-ID: One note: Keith mis-spoke when he stated "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone". We certainly are not stopping support and repairs for the K3 and K3S. (Of course there are some lightning damaged radios that are not economical to repair.) Though some repairs may take longer as replacement parts are ordered. What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) Eric *elecraft.com * On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:47 AM Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: > Hi all; > I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in > for repair, August through October. > > It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your > COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem). > Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary > to do damage. > > Customer quotes; "I disconnected everything, EXCEPT..." then they list > ONE item. > Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone. > Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > '73 > Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From n4zr at comcast.net Sat Aug 15 20:05:55 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:05:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: References: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383.ref@att.net> <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383@att.net> Message-ID: <8d597bf0-be2c-67c0-1400-e0fdbdcc1e83@comcast.net> Lightning aside, when will those of us who have signed up for upgrades be told whether or not they will be accepted? 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 8/15/2020 4:31 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and repairs > for the K3 and K3S. > > What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component > level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building > boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs > on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list > for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) > > 73, > Eric > *elecraft.com * > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper > wrote: > >> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? >> Obsolete??? >> >> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." >> >> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >> '73 >> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >> >> >> ?Scott - NE9U >> >> Sent from my Cray-1 >> >> skjasper73 at gmail.com >> skjasper at att.net >> ne9u at arrl.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net From kevinr at coho.net Sat Aug 15 23:27:33 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:27:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <3d3d3de2-6bb4-2f7f-3e08-932cbd9933f7@coho.net> Good Evening, ?? Fire danger got very high today.? It will be hot again tomorrow.? The highway to Seaside and Astoria was pretty full yesterday.? Hopefully none of those campers will start a fire. Luckily most of the heat will be gone by Wednesday.? There were some foggy mornings last week so the berries are doing a little better. ? Remember the time change for forty meters.? I'll be monitoring by 0030z but won't start calling until 0045z.? The band may be a little better with the day just a little shorter.? I expect the QSB will be present on both bands.? It is time to pull down my extra long doublet and check for wear.? It has been up for a few years without a problem.? It can receive on 160 meters but I can't match it close enough to transmit.? When I get it down I can check the measurements.? Or cut a new antenna for 20 and 40 meters. Please join us on (or near): 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) ?? 73, ????? Kevin. KD5ONS _ From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Aug 16 13:17:06 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:17:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <3d3d3de2-6bb4-2f7f-3e08-932cbd9933f7@coho.net> Message-ID: Yesterday during NAQP, 40M was approaching decent at 0045z. All the bands were between bad and awful though. Good luck. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/15/20 at 11:27 PM, kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) wrote: >? Remember the time change for forty meters.? I'll be >monitoring by 0030z but won't start calling until 0045z.? The >band may be a little better with the day just a little >shorter.? I expect the QSB will be present on both bands.? ... > >Please join us on (or near): > >14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) >?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by www.pwpconsult.com | accident. - William Hugh Murray From skjasper at att.net Sun Aug 16 14:17:46 2020 From: skjasper at att.net (NE9U - Scott Jasper) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:17:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: References: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383.ref@att.net> <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383@att.net> Message-ID: <37122f80-ad7a-440f-9d3f-d11c0d0feb25@att.net> Ok great....good to know. I am thinking of replacing my OBSOLETE FT1000D second radio so2r for another k3. If anyone knows of a well filtered one at a reasonable price, I'm in the market.? Have one hot lead locally I'm waiting on..... ?Scott - NE9U Sent from my Cray-1 skjasper73 at gmail.com skjasper at att.net ne9u at arrl.net? On Aug 15, 2020, 3:32 PM, at 3:32 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: >Hi Scott, > >Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and >repairs >for the K3 and K3S. > >What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component >level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be >building >boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap >outs >on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list >for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade >boards.) > >73, >Eric >*elecraft.com * > > >On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper >wrote: > >> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? >> Obsolete??? >> >> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." >> >> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >> '73 >> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >> >> >> ?Scott - NE9U >> >> Sent from my Cray-1 >> >> skjasper73 at gmail.com >> skjasper at att.net >> ne9u at arrl.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From akengineering at live.com Sun Aug 16 15:06:14 2020 From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:06:14 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. Message-ID: $2,100.00 KX3 was recently at the factory for upgrades (15W output, install upgrades, 2M module, factory alignment) Has all available options installed; KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, KX3-2M, KX3HSMDKT Includes: MH3, KXPD3, XG50, AX1+AXE1+AXB1, KX3-PCKT, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, soft carrying case, factory manual and KX3 book by Cady $450 PX3 has two sets of PX3-KX3 cables to connect it to the KX3, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, factory manual $100 New Powerwerx 30A switching power supply (lists on Elecraft website for $120 before tax and shipping) Located in San Antonio Texas 73's ! Aubrey Mason WA6DMI 210-602-4291 From w4sc at windstream.net Sun Aug 16 15:09:26 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:09:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bracket KPA3A E100719 Message-ID: <3D.D5.03475.564893F5@smtp02.aqua.bos.sync.lan> I discovered Bracket KPA3A E100719 in the K3S spare parts list. It is not shown in any installation instructions. Anyone have an idea as to purpose and installation? Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From w2ljqrp at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 18:11:46 2020 From: w2ljqrp at gmail.com (Larry Makoski) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 18:11:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - What's next? Message-ID: Skeeter Hunters, Wow! That was a blast! Even though band conditions were far from stellar (I'm trying to be kind!), there seemed to be a lot of activity - and that's because of all of YOU! Without you, the Skeeter Hunt would be a big nothing. All of you out there make it what it is - and I'm so grateful to all of you for that. The next step is to submit your log summaries. This is not a complicated or arduous undertaking - NJQRP means to keep it "Easy peasy, lemon squeezy". No ADIFs or Cabrillos are needed - no jumping through hoops. Just send an e-mail to w2lj at arrl.net with the following (example shown) Larry - W2LJ - NJ Skeeter #13 - All CW Single Op Skeeter QSOs - 23 Non-Skeeter QRP QSOs - 5 Non-Skeeter QRO QSOs - (if any) S/P/Cs - 18 Station Class Multiplier X4 Bonus - Yes or No as to whether or not you used a homebrew antenna. Please feel free to include your soapbox comments and any photos you wish to share. All this is due two weeks from today - August 30th, 2020. The Scoreboard will be posted over Labor Day weeebnd and certificates and the publishing of the Soapbox will follow soon afterward. On behalf of NJQRP - once again ...... thanks do much for being there! From ars.nc0jw at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 19:10:51 2020 From: ars.nc0jw at gmail.com (Jim White NC0JW) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:10:51 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20 Meter SSB Net - Sunday August 16, 2020 Message-ID: <02A3F434-5A6A-493B-A4A8-D786ADD19E1C@gmail.com> Our illustrious net control Eric, WB9JNZ is still having some computer issues this week so I am submitting the Elecraft 20 Meter SSB net report. QSB was with us again this week as it has been for quite some time. This week's signals were weak a crossed the board with few exceptions. We are all anxiously awaiting who will be the first to check in into the net with their new K4. Twenty-three check ins were recorded with the always appreciated help from the relay stations. Thanks to Roger N4NRW, John N6JW, and Brian K1NW for the digging out today?s weak signals. WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net control N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 Relay station K8NU/7 Carl OH Remote from WA WM6P Steve GA K3S 11453 N6JW John CA K3 936 Relay station NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 Relay station AE6JV Bill NH K3 6299 N2TNQ Len NJ K3 5270 W1NGA Al CO K3 5765 N7CVZ Mike OR K3S 10457 K3SV Bill FL K3 1355 K1NW Brian RI K3 4974 Relay station KF7ZN Ron UT K3S 10832 KB9AVO Paul IN K3S 11103 K5KBM/7 Kyle GA Remote from WA W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 K0JFJ Nick MN KX2 3056 K7BRR Bill OR K3S 10939 AE1E Ken TX Remote station NM K6VWE Stan MI K3 650 WM6T Tracy CA K3S 10299 WW4JF John TN K3S 11177 K7JG John WA KX3 3519 We were unable to complete contacts with KI4FJK and KI7BZB. Hopefully they will try again next week. The 20 Meter Elecraft SSB Net meets each Sunday at 1800 UTC on 14.3035 MHz. Eric WB9JNZ in Chicago is Net control for the 20 Meter SSB Net. At 1900 UTC Steve WM6P from Northern Georgia is Net Control for the 40 Meter SSB Net on 7.280 MHz. Later on Sunday evening at 0100 UTC the 80 Meter Elecraft SSB Net meets on 3.942 MHz with Paul KB9AVO as Net control from Indiana. Join us on one the nets and see what the propagations Gods are throwing at us. Jim White - NC0JW ars.nc0jw at gmail.com From akengineering at live.com Sun Aug 16 19:49:25 2020 From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:49:25 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] MFJ-962D Versatuner III - new in box for sale Message-ID: MFJ Versa Tuner III for sale New in box - opened but never used. Includes 12V wall wart to power the meter electronics. $300 Will consider VHF/UHF MFJ-923 antenna tuner as partial trade depending on condition. 73's ! Aubrey WA6DMI 210-602-4291 From infomet at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 16 21:40:00 2020 From: infomet at embarqmail.com (Wilson Lamb) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1289002577.3895211.1597628400836.JavaMail.zimbra@embarqmail.com> I have 2X K3, but am not even qualified to to talk about them. I CAN say, without reservation, that our antennae are NOT our primary danger points, at least for those of us with modest (50' and under) installations. In 65 years of operating all sorts of stuff, I have NEVER seen lightning damage due to antenna pickup. I have seen LOTS of damage level stuff come in on phone lines, however! Most thunderstorms in our area create firecracker discharges in my phone demarc box, which is just across the basement from my operating area. They scare me, especially when they occur when I'm disconnecting my phones/modem, which are connected to the outside world with alligator clips. I have lost multiple phones and modems to this stuff, when it exceeds the impressive levels the demarc can handle, but never anything to do with radio. This is a great fringe benefit of WIFI. The stuff we used to lose through ethernet connections is now airgapped from the modem. Pulling the plug is almost foolproof protection. I don't connect computers to radios, so there's an airgap already in place. When I see the storm coming, I disconnect all radios from their antennae AND power supplies. Now, I KNOW lots of people have suffered from antenna pickup, but I'm betting power/phone lines have produced far more incidents. Trouble is, if you get a real hit on an antenna, all bets are off and my experience doesn't matter at all! If you set up to run from a battery, you can achieve considerable isolation, especially if you unplug the charger before storms come. It would be interesting to hear stories of damaging events caused by phone line transients coming into houses. WL ----- elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. General Purpose Outputs on KX2 (Ken Simmons) > 2. Re: K4 Questions (Wayne Burdick) > 3. Re: K4 Questions (Barry LaZar) > 4. KRX3A Sync AM Mode K3S not working? (w4sc) > 5. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (Jim Brown) > 6. Re: K4 Questions (Grant Youngman) > 7. Re: K4 Questions (Barry LaZar) > 8. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (David Christ) > 9. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (Jim Brown) > 10. Re: Elecraft K3 Problem (Mike K8CN) > 11. S Meter RX numbers? (M1KTA) > 12. KX3/KXPA connection (john daws) > 13. K3 boards (NE9U - Scott Jasper) > 14. There is a new release of Win4K3Suite (Tom) > 15. Re: S Meter RX numbers? (Wayne Burdick) > 16. For sale K3 with some K3S upgrades (w4sc) > 17. Re: K3 boards (Eric Swartz) > 18. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (Eric Swartz) > 19. Re: K3 boards (N4ZR) > 20. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr) > 21. Re: Elecraft CW Net Announcement (Bill Frantz) > 22. Re: K3 boards (NE9U - Scott Jasper) > 23. KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. > (Aubrey Mason) > 24. Bracket KPA3A E100719 (w4sc) > 25. NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - What's next? (Larry Makoski) > 26. Elecraft 20 Meter SSB Net - Sunday August 16, 2020 > (Jim White NC0JW) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 15:03:31 +0000 > From: Ken Simmons > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] General Purpose Outputs on KX2 > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Is anyone using the General Purpose Outputs on the KX2 that comes with the KXIO2 board? It says they are user programmable, but to what extent? > > Thanks. > Ken > WR7D > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:22:32 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick > To: barrylazar2 at gmail.com > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Yes, IQ data will be available. > > Wayne > N6KR > > ---- > elecraft.com > > > On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > > > ?I just saw the presentation Eric gave on the K4. It is really impressive. However, I've never been able to get the answer to a few questions. First, is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or less on data modes. Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This requires a MME format. > > > > > > I'm sure I will have additional questions over time. But, these are my present burning questions. I now have a K3s and think it's a fantastic radio. > > > > > > 73, > > > > Barry > > > > K3NDM > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:42:48 -0400 > From: Barry LaZar > To: Nr4c > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Bill, > I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: > > > Barry > > > > Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed > > as a question or suggestion? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > > > > > > ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar > > wrote: > > > > > >> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency > > >> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > > >> less on data modes. > > > > > > > > > Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > > > available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) > > > has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. > > > > > > > > >> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > > > > > > > > > Probably it will work the same as a K3. > > > > > > > > >> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This > > >> requires a MME format. > > >> > > > > > > I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > > > would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > > > frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > > > > > > 73, > > > Bob, N6TV > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:47:41 -0400 > From: w4sc > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] KRX3A Sync AM Mode K3S not working? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sync AM mode appears to not be working. Been though B-Set selecting mode(s),, Not ?tracking?, envelope detection OK. Latest firmware installed (5.67MCU and 2.88DSP). DSP f/w fix? > > Ben W4SC > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:51:07 -0700 > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. > Message-ID: > <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b at audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote: > > Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver > > Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at > Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which > preceded Ward's book. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:53:40 -0400 > From: Grant Youngman > To: Barry LaZar > Cc: Elecraft Refl > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions > Message-ID: <9D5F9610-2293-4806-B00C-02A9EE37571E at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 minute Q&As at the Expo. > > I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB. But I could be mistaken, since I?m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver?s license ? if I can remember where that is :-) > > Whichever it is, it didn?t sound like it was going to be a first release feature. > > Grant NQ5T > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > > > Bill, > > I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. > > > > 73, > > Barry > > K3NDM > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: > > > >> Barry > >> > >> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed > >> as a question or suggestion? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> ...nr4c. bill > >> > >> > >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > >>> > >>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency > >>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > >>>> less on data modes. > >>> > >>> > >>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > >>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) > >>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > >>> > >>> > >>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This > >>>> requires a MME format. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > >>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > >>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Bob, N6TV > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:54:51 -0400 > From: Barry LaZar > To: Grant Youngman > Cc: Elecraft Refl > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Grant, > I know how you feel. It seems I'm missing a bunch of information. I > guess it must be my advancing age. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 AM Grant Youngman wrote: > > > I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 > > minute Q&As at the Expo. > > > > I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was > > possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB. But I could be mistaken, since > > I?m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver?s license ? if I > > can remember where that is :-) > > > > Whichever it is, it didn?t sound like it was going to be a first release > > feature. > > > > Grant NQ5T > > > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > > > > > Bill, > > > I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. > > > > > > 73, > > > Barry > > > K3NDM > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: > > > > > >> Barry > > >> > > >> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it > > posed > > >> as a question or suggestion? > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> ...nr4c. bill > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > > >>> > > >>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the > > frequency > > >>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or > > >>>> less on data modes. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is > > >>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off > > screen) > > >>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, > > etc. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; > > This > > >>>> requires a MME format. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT > > >>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR > > >>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. > > >>> > > >>> 73, > > >>> Bob, N6TV > > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > > >>> Elecraft mailing list > > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > >>> > > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:00:45 -0500 > From: David Christ > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Ward Silver also gave a presentation on this at the QSOtoday virtual hamfest. Still available for watching. > > David K0LUM > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > > > On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote: > >> Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver > > > > Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to radioham at mchsi.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:08:05 -0700 > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. > Message-ID: > <2bc6f9a5-ce97-2d1d-0859-0fd477729f3f at audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 8/15/2020 8:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral > > ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. > > forgot the link. > http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:24:54 -0700 (MST) > From: Mike K8CN > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Problem > Message-ID: <1597508694925-0.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Per-Tore, > > Can you identify which transistor (or other device) on the LPA module is > getting hot in transmit mode? > > The drain terminals of MOSFET PA transistors Q4 and Q5 receive +12V > regardless of TX or RX mode, but the gate bias voltages are applied only in > TX mode. Unless there's a problem with the bias regulator circuit (U1), the > RF amplifier chain on the LPA module should not be getting that warm. It is > also possible that one of the RF power transistors may be getting hot > because it is no longer making good thermal contact with the bottom cover > panel - it would be good to check the tightness of the three screws holding > those transistors against the bottom panel. > > Is it possible for you to carefully extract the LPA module from the main RF > board? That requires removal of the rear panel of the bottom cover, and you > may need new thermal pads for the RF transistors if those pads are damaged > by removal of the cover panel. If you can remove the LPA module, you might > try RX mode ONLY with the Power control set to 0 (to ensure that the KPA3 PA > is bypassed by its relay K1) and see if your receive sensitivity is > restored. > > The output side of the LPA module is nominally connected only in TX mode to > the antenna path via diode D1 on the LPA module, and if the D1 switch is > operating properly one would not expect the high attenuation of signals in > RX mode. The output of the LPA module is also connected to the input of the > 100 W PA module at the same point on the T/R switch circuit, but that module > is bypassed by relay K1 on the KPAIO3 board. > > I'm not yet sure how the overheating of a device on the LPA board is > connected to the loss of RX sensitivity. If the diode switch D1 on the LPA > module has failed shorted (unlikely), then it would leave the output > circuitry of the LPA module bridged across the antenna signal path in RX > mode. > > Keep us posted on what you learn! > > 73, > Mike, K8CN > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:11:19 -0700 (MST) > From: M1KTA > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] S Meter RX numbers? > Message-ID: <1597511479291-0.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Where in the physical chain of an KX3 are the RX s-meter signals > obtained/derived? > > 72 > Dom > M1KTA > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:12:27 -0700 (MST) > From: john daws > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA connection > Message-ID: <1597515147011-0.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Have had this working fine for a year until 2 months ago KX3 connected > briefly to the KXPA100 and then cut out. > > The SYS LED light showed on the KXPA100 > > Have replaced PSU believing it to be a fault here. > > Have sent KXPA100 to Waters and Stanton (UK) for inspection and returned > with clean bill of health. > > Reconnected using the 'KX3 to KXPA100 adapter cable' and replaced both 25 > amp fuses. > > Same 'fault': KX3 cuts out straight away and no response at all now from the > KXPA100 > > Could a new set of adapter cables now be the answer?? > > (The KX3 works fine on the KX33 low power RFI supply) > > Not a very technical person so please be gentle!! > > Thanks for any thoughts > > John > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:56:48 -0500 > From: NE9U - Scott Jasper > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards > Message-ID: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383 at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > What does this mean?? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired?? Obsolete??? > > "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." > > Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > '73 > Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > > > ?Scott - NE9U > > Sent from my Cray-1 > > skjasper73 at gmail.com > skjasper at att.net > ne9u at arrl.net? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 15:58:59 -0400 > From: "Tom" > To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" > Subject: [Elecraft] There is a new release of Win4K3Suite > Message-ID: <014c01d6733e$84cad420$8e607c60$@videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hello, > There is a new version of Win4K3Suite available. This release includes > direct logging into Log4OM version 2 and some improvements to the ClubLog > spotting module. > > Win4K3Suite is a full featured control program for the K3/S, KX3 and KX2. > It has a built in Panadapter that works with LPPAN and a sound card, as well > as the SDRPlay RSP's. It supports the KAT500, KPA500/1500 and the KXPA100 on > most of the above radios. > A unique feature is that is has 6 built in Virtual Radios, each of which > works just like an Elecraft radio. This allows sharing of a single COM port > with up to 6 applications. It also has a built in HRDLogbook server and the > EiBi Shortwave database. > You see more information here: > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite > and download a fully functional 30 day trial at va2fsq.com > > 73 Tom > va2fsq.com > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:20:21 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick > To: M1KTA > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] S Meter RX numbers? > Message-ID: <653DBDF8-42C9-4FB1-8C98-3935C6720E13 at elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > In the DSP. This is the case for most SDRs. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > ---- > elecraft.com > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:13 AM, M1KTA wrote: > > > > ?Where in the physical chain of an KX3 are the RX s-meter signals > > obtained/derived? > > > > 72 > > Dom > > M1KTA > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:22:48 -0400 > From: w4sc > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] For sale K3 with some K3S upgrades > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Purchased this radio for a backup rig. Saving for a K4. > Elecraft K3 (s/n 6995) with KAT3, KPA3, KRX3 sub RX, 8 pole filters > (KFL3A-2.8, KFL3A-1.8, KFL3A-400) in main and sub receivers . > K3S module updates include KSYN3As and KXV3B with 2nd pre-amp. > Elecraft manuals, USB-RS232 adapter cable, > KE7X "The Elecraft K3" book, MH2 microphone, DC cable, MFJ-4125 25A PS included. > All you need is a "shack" and antenna. Checked out, excellent > $2300 includes double boxed insured US ground shipping. > Email off list for payment options. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:31:48 -0700 > From: Eric Swartz > To: NE9U - Scott Jasper > Cc: Elecraft list > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 boards > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Scott, > > Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and repairs > for the K3 and K3S. > > What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component > level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building > boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs > on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list > for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) > > 73, > Eric > *elecraft.com * > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper > wrote: > > > What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? > > Obsolete??? > > > > "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." > > > > Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > > lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > > DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > > '73 > > Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > > > > > > ?Scott - NE9U > > > > Sent from my Cray-1 > > > > skjasper73 at gmail.com > > skjasper at att.net > > ne9u at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:35:39 -0700 > From: Eric Swartz > To: Keith Trinity WE6R > Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > One note: Keith mis-spoke when he stated "Spare K3 board supplies are low > or gone". We certainly are not stopping support and repairs for the K3 and > K3S. (Of course there are some lightning damaged radios that are not > economical to repair.) Though some repairs may take longer as replacement > parts are ordered. > > What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component > level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building > boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs > on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list > for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) > > Eric > *elecraft.com * > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:47 AM Keith Trinity WE6R > wrote: > > > Hi all; > > I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in > > for repair, August through October. > > > > It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your > > COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem). > > Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary > > to do damage. > > > > Customer quotes; "I disconnected everything, EXCEPT..." then they list > > ONE item. > > Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone. > > Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > > lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > > DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > > '73 > > Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:05:55 -0400 > From: N4ZR > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 boards > Message-ID: <8d597bf0-be2c-67c0-1400-e0fdbdcc1e83 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Lightning aside, when will those of us who have signed up for upgrades > be told whether or not they will be accepted? > > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at , now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > > On 8/15/2020 4:31 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > > > Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and repairs > > for the K3 and K3S. > > > > What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component > > level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building > > boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs > > on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list > > for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) > > > > 73, > > Eric > > *elecraft.com * > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper > > wrote: > > > >> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? > >> Obsolete??? > >> > >> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." > >> > >> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > >> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > >> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > >> '73 > >> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > >> > >> > >> ?Scott - NE9U > >> > >> Sent from my Cray-1 > >> > >> skjasper73 at gmail.com > >> skjasper at att.net > >> ne9u at arrl.net > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:27:33 -0700 > From: kevinr > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement > Message-ID: <3d3d3de2-6bb4-2f7f-3e08-932cbd9933f7 at coho.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Good Evening, > > ?? Fire danger got very high today.? It will be hot again tomorrow.? > The highway to Seaside and Astoria was pretty full yesterday.? Hopefully > none of those campers will start a fire. Luckily most of the heat will > be gone by Wednesday.? There were some foggy mornings last week so the > berries are doing a little better. > > ? Remember the time change for forty meters.? I'll be monitoring by > 0030z but won't start calling until 0045z.? The band may be a little > better with the day just a little shorter.? I expect the QSB will be > present on both bands.? It is time to pull down my extra long doublet > and check for wear.? It has been up for a few years without a problem.? > It can receive on 160 meters but I can't match it close enough to > transmit.? When I get it down I can check the measurements.? Or cut a > new antenna for 20 and 40 meters. > > Please join us on (or near): > > 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) > ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) > > ?? 73, > ????? Kevin. KD5ONS > > > _ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:17:06 -0400 > From: Bill Frantz > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Yesterday during NAQP, 40M was approaching decent at 0045z. All > the bands were between bad and awful though. Good luck. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 8/15/20 at 11:27 PM, kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) wrote: > > >? Remember the time change for forty meters.? I'll be > >monitoring by 0030z but won't start calling until 0045z.? The > >band may be a little better with the day just a little > >shorter.? I expect the QSB will be present on both bands.? ... > > > >Please join us on (or near): > > > >14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) > >?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the > 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by > www.pwpconsult.com | accident. - William Hugh Murray > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:17:46 -0500 > From: NE9U - Scott Jasper > To: Eric Swartz > Cc: Elecraft list > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 boards > Message-ID: <37122f80-ad7a-440f-9d3f-d11c0d0feb25 at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Ok great....good to know. > > I am thinking of replacing my OBSOLETE FT1000D second radio so2r for another k3. > > If anyone knows of a well filtered one at a reasonable price, I'm in the market.? Have one hot lead locally I'm waiting on..... > > ?Scott - NE9U > > Sent from my Cray-1 > > skjasper73 at gmail.com > skjasper at att.net > ne9u at arrl.net? > > On Aug 15, 2020, 3:32 PM, at 3:32 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: > >Hi Scott, > > > >Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and > >repairs > >for the K3 and K3S. > > > >What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component > >level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be > >building > >boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap > >outs > >on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list > >for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade > >boards.) > > > >73, > >Eric > >*elecraft.com * > > > > > >On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper > >wrote: > > > >> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? > >> Obsolete??? > >> > >> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." > >> > >> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen > >> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; > >> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. > >> '73 > >> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech > >> > >> > >> ?Scott - NE9U > >> > >> Sent from my Cray-1 > >> > >> skjasper73 at gmail.com > >> skjasper at att.net > >> ne9u at arrl.net > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:06:14 +0000 > From: Aubrey Mason > To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for > sale. > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > $2,100.00 > KX3 was recently at the factory for upgrades (15W output, install upgrades, 2M module, factory alignment) > Has all available options installed; KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, KX3-2M, KX3HSMDKT > Includes: MH3, KXPD3, XG50, AX1+AXE1+AXB1, KX3-PCKT, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, soft carrying case, factory manual and KX3 book by Cady > > $450 > PX3 has two sets of PX3-KX3 cables to connect it to the KX3, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, factory manual > > $100 > New Powerwerx 30A switching power supply (lists on Elecraft website for $120 before tax and shipping) > > Located in San Antonio Texas > > 73's ! > > Aubrey Mason > WA6DMI > 210-602-4291 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:09:26 -0400 > From: w4sc > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] Bracket KPA3A E100719 > Message-ID: <3D.D5.03475.564893F5 at smtp02.aqua.bos.sync.lan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I discovered Bracket KPA3A E100719 in the K3S spare parts list. It is not shown in any installation instructions. > > Anyone have an idea as to purpose and installation? > > Ben W4SC > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 18:11:46 -0400 > From: Larry Makoski > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - What's next? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Skeeter Hunters, > > Wow! That was a blast! Even though band conditions were far from stellar > (I'm trying to be kind!), there seemed to be a lot of activity - and that's > because of all of YOU! Without you, the Skeeter Hunt would be a big > nothing. All of you out there make it what it is - and I'm so grateful to > all of you for that. > > The next step is to submit your log summaries. This is not a complicated or > arduous undertaking - NJQRP means to keep it "Easy peasy, lemon squeezy". > No ADIFs or Cabrillos are needed - no jumping through hoops. Just send an > e-mail to w2lj at arrl.net with the following (example shown) > > Larry - W2LJ - NJ > Skeeter #13 - All CW > Single Op > Skeeter QSOs - 23 > Non-Skeeter QRP QSOs - 5 > Non-Skeeter QRO QSOs - (if any) > S/P/Cs - 18 > Station Class Multiplier X4 > Bonus - Yes or No as to whether or not you used a homebrew antenna. > > Please feel free to include your soapbox comments and any photos you wish > to share. > > All this is due two weeks from today - August 30th, 2020. The Scoreboard > will be posted over Labor Day weeebnd and certificates and the publishing > of the Soapbox will follow soon afterward. > > On behalf of NJQRP - once again ...... thanks do much for being there! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:10:51 -0600 > From: Jim White NC0JW > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20 Meter SSB Net - Sunday August 16, 2020 > Message-ID: <02A3F434-5A6A-493B-A4A8-D786ADD19E1C at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Our illustrious net control Eric, WB9JNZ is still having some computer issues this week so I am submitting the Elecraft 20 Meter SSB net report. > > QSB was with us again this week as it has been for quite some time. This week's signals were weak a crossed the board with few exceptions. We are all anxiously awaiting who will be the first to check in into the net with their new K4. > > Twenty-three check ins were recorded with the always appreciated help from the relay stations. Thanks to Roger N4NRW, John N6JW, and Brian K1NW for the digging out today?s weak signals. > > WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net control > N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 Relay station > K8NU/7 Carl OH Remote from WA > WM6P Steve GA K3S 11453 > N6JW John CA K3 936 Relay station > NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 Relay station > AE6JV Bill NH K3 6299 > N2TNQ Len NJ K3 5270 > W1NGA Al CO K3 5765 > N7CVZ Mike OR K3S 10457 > K3SV Bill FL K3 1355 > K1NW Brian RI K3 4974 Relay station > KF7ZN Ron UT K3S 10832 > KB9AVO Paul IN K3S 11103 > K5KBM/7 Kyle GA Remote from WA > W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 > K0JFJ Nick MN KX2 3056 > K7BRR Bill OR K3S 10939 > AE1E Ken TX Remote station NM > K6VWE Stan MI K3 650 > WM6T Tracy CA K3S 10299 > WW4JF John TN K3S 11177 > K7JG John WA KX3 3519 > > We were unable to complete contacts with KI4FJK and KI7BZB. Hopefully they will try again next week. > > The 20 Meter Elecraft SSB Net meets each Sunday at 1800 UTC on 14.3035 MHz. Eric WB9JNZ in Chicago is Net control for the 20 Meter SSB Net. At 1900 UTC Steve WM6P from Northern Georgia is Net Control for the 40 Meter SSB Net on 7.280 MHz. Later on Sunday evening at 0100 UTC the 80 Meter Elecraft SSB Net meets on 3.942 MHz with Paul KB9AVO as Net control from Indiana. > > Join us on one the nets and see what the propagations Gods are throwing at us. > > Jim White - NC0JW > ars.nc0jw at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 > ***************************************** From kevinr at coho.net Mon Aug 17 00:44:34 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: Good Evening, ??? Conditions were different from last week.? More noise and less QSB on both bands.? Summer storms were quite active.? Some of you were behind walls of static, while others had the noise behind them.? Signals were strong, in the S5 to S9 range.? Contacts were along a northern path on twenty meters.? The time change for the forty meter net helped, the band seemed wake up around 0030z. ?? On twenty meters I had the highest temperature.? On forty meters I had the coolest until Ken showed up.? Even now (at 9:30 PM PDT) its in the seventies.? And sticky.? Lightning was in many reports.? Great way to start a fire in the dry conditions. ?? Activities ranged from power outage enforced reading, to Zoom dinner dates, to antenna repair, to house repair, and wood collecting.? There was talk of normal returning but who remembers what that was?? Guess we'll see how the world works as we go along.? The Mariners are in the cellar, which feels normal :) ? On 14050 kHz at 2200z: W0CZ - Ken - ND K6XK - Roy - IA NO8V - John - MI ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0045z: K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6PJV - Dale - CA W6JHB - Jim - CA W0CZ - Ken - ND ?? Propagation is changing.? Maybe by winter we will see a higher flux index.? It has been stuck near 70 for a very long time.? The fox glove blossoms are almost all gone.? Time for the wood pile to grow.? For relaxation I can build another doublet.? New wire for winter will be nice.? I'm expecting more snow than usual.? Must be pessimism :) ?? Until next week stay well and 73, ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS - Sometimes it?s good to just sit back and watch the universe unfolding. From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 02:56:27 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:56:27 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question Message-ID: <2c40cbe4-81ca-fd55-32cf-47a8f1817da3@gmail.com> What do you think about epoxy-ing an Anderson Power Pole connector into a 3mm aluminum panel? Would it be durable? I know there is a metal dohickey to mount an APP to a panel, but it's not available here and I don't want to wait weeks. Or should I just go with a grommet and pigtail? -- 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 03:35:09 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 10:35:09 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <2c40cbe4-81ca-fd55-32cf-47a8f1817da3@gmail.com> References: <2c40cbe4-81ca-fd55-32cf-47a8f1817da3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> Never mind, I made my own metal dohickey! Just a piece of 1.6mm aluminum with a notch in it. Very cool, if I do say so myself! 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 17-Aug-2020 09:56, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > What do you think about epoxy-ing an Anderson Power Pole connector > into a 3mm aluminum panel? > > Would it be durable? > > I know there is a metal dohickey to mount an APP to a panel, but it's > not available here and I don't want to wait weeks. > > Or should I just go with a grommet and pigtail? From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Aug 17 06:03:37 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 06:03:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <2c40cbe4-81ca-fd55-32cf-47a8f1817da3@gmail.com> References: <2c40cbe4-81ca-fd55-32cf-47a8f1817da3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3AA641C1-CD7C-4EC6-9C95-7FD3275EA79F@widomaker.com> Ic I think you might be ok with a product like ?JB Weld?. It?s a grey highly viscous Epoxy that can be molded into shape and machined when completely cured. Takes 24 hours to fully harden. Maybe 72 hours for full cure. I?ve seen modelers repair broken engine lugs on a model engine. When cured, drill out the mounting hole and remount the engine and go flying. As for the little mounting pieces you can make them with a file or nobler. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 17, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > > ?What do you think about epoxy-ing an Anderson Power Pole connector into a 3mm aluminum panel? > > Would it be durable? > > I know there is a metal dohickey to mount an APP to a panel, but it's not available here and I don't want to wait weeks. > > Or should I just go with a grommet and pigtail? > -- > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Aug 17 06:04:57 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 06:04:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> References: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8F0D52D5-7F81-4C40-9B58-CE66046365F6@widomaker.com> Way to go, Vic! Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 17, 2020, at 4:45 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > > ?Never mind, I made my own metal dohickey! Just a piece of 1.6mm aluminum with a notch in it. Very cool, if I do say so myself! > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > >> On 17-Aug-2020 09:56, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >> What do you think about epoxy-ing an Anderson Power Pole connector >> into a 3mm aluminum panel? >> Would it be durable? >> I know there is a metal dohickey to mount an APP to a panel, but it's >> not available here and I don't want to wait weeks. >> Or should I just go with a grommet and pigtail? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From w4kx at mac.com Mon Aug 17 07:04:33 2020 From: w4kx at mac.com (Tom Doligalski) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 07:04:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <1289002577.3895211.1597628400836.JavaMail.zimbra@embarqmail.com> References: <1289002577.3895211.1597628400836.JavaMail.zimbra@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I?ve had a similar experience: lightning came in via the cable line, took out the cable modem, the router, the PC, and the serial interface on the K3. At this point the replacement PC communicates with the internet using WiFi. My plan is to connect the K4 to the internet using a WiFi adapter. Eric alluded to the K4 supporting some WiFi USB adapters in his Q&A sessions last week. Wish I knew what models will be supported, so I could order ahead! Tom W4KX > On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Wilson Lamb wrote: > > I have 2X K3, but am not even qualified to to talk about them. > I CAN say, without reservation, that our antennae are NOT our primary danger points, at least for those of us with modest (50' and under) installations. > In 65 years of operating all sorts of stuff, I have NEVER seen lightning damage due to antenna pickup. > I have seen LOTS of damage level stuff come in on phone lines, however! > Most thunderstorms in our area create firecracker discharges in my phone demarc box, which is just across the basement from my operating area. > They scare me, especially when they occur when I'm disconnecting my phones/modem, which are connected to the outside world with alligator clips. > I have lost multiple phones and modems to this stuff, when it exceeds the impressive levels the demarc can handle, but never anything to do with radio. > This is a great fringe benefit of WIFI. The stuff we used to lose through ethernet connections is now airgapped from the modem. > Pulling the plug is almost foolproof protection. > I don't connect computers to radios, so there's an airgap already in place. > When I see the storm coming, I disconnect all radios from their antennae AND power supplies. > Now, I KNOW lots of people have suffered from antenna pickup, but I'm betting power/phone lines have produced far more incidents. > Trouble is, if you get a real hit on an antenna, all bets are off and my experience doesn't matter at all! > If you set up to run from a battery, you can achieve considerable isolation, especially if you unplug the charger before storms come. > It would be interesting to hear stories of damaging events caused by phone line transients coming into houses. > WL > ----- elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: >> Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to >> elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. General Purpose Outputs on KX2 (Ken Simmons) >> 2. Re: K4 Questions (Wayne Burdick) >> 3. Re: K4 Questions (Barry LaZar) >> 4. KRX3A Sync AM Mode K3S not working? (w4sc) >> 5. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (Jim Brown) >> 6. Re: K4 Questions (Grant Youngman) >> 7. Re: K4 Questions (Barry LaZar) >> 8. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (David Christ) >> 9. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (Jim Brown) >> 10. Re: Elecraft K3 Problem (Mike K8CN) >> 11. S Meter RX numbers? (M1KTA) >> 12. KX3/KXPA connection (john daws) >> 13. K3 boards (NE9U - Scott Jasper) >> 14. There is a new release of Win4K3Suite (Tom) >> 15. Re: S Meter RX numbers? (Wayne Burdick) >> 16. For sale K3 with some K3S upgrades (w4sc) >> 17. Re: K3 boards (Eric Swartz) >> 18. Re: Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. (Eric Swartz) >> 19. Re: K3 boards (N4ZR) >> 20. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr) >> 21. Re: Elecraft CW Net Announcement (Bill Frantz) >> 22. Re: K3 boards (NE9U - Scott Jasper) >> 23. KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. >> (Aubrey Mason) >> 24. Bracket KPA3A E100719 (w4sc) >> 25. NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - What's next? (Larry Makoski) >> 26. Elecraft 20 Meter SSB Net - Sunday August 16, 2020 >> (Jim White NC0JW) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 15:03:31 +0000 >> From: Ken Simmons >> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: [Elecraft] General Purpose Outputs on KX2 >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Is anyone using the General Purpose Outputs on the KX2 that comes with the KXIO2 board? It says they are user programmable, but to what extent? >> >> Thanks. >> Ken >> WR7D >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:22:32 -0700 >> From: Wayne Burdick >> To: barrylazar2 at gmail.com >> Cc: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Yes, IQ data will be available. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> ---- >> elecraft.com >> >>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>> >>> ?I just saw the presentation Eric gave on the K4. It is really impressive. However, I've never been able to get the answer to a few questions. First, is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or less on data modes. Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This requires a MME format. >>> >>> >>> I'm sure I will have additional questions over time. But, these are my present burning questions. I now have a K3s and think it's a fantastic radio. >>> >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> K3NDM >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:42:48 -0400 >> From: Barry LaZar >> To: Nr4c >> Cc: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Bill, >> I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM >> >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: >> >>> Barry >>> >>> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed >>> as a question or suggestion? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: >>>> >>>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency >>>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or >>>>> less on data modes. >>>> >>>> >>>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is >>>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) >>>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? >>>> >>>> >>>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This >>>>> requires a MME format. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT >>>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR >>>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Bob, N6TV >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:47:41 -0400 >> From: w4sc >> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: [Elecraft] KRX3A Sync AM Mode K3S not working? >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Sync AM mode appears to not be working. Been though B-Set selecting mode(s),, Not ?tracking?, envelope detection OK. Latest firmware installed (5.67MCU and 2.88DSP). DSP f/w fix? >> >> Ben W4SC >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 08:51:07 -0700 >> From: Jim Brown >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. >> Message-ID: >> <225b8007-2a5c-68da-3fc7-d9b535261b9b at audiosystemsgroup.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote: >>> Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver >> >> Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at >> Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which >> preceded Ward's book. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:53:40 -0400 >> From: Grant Youngman >> To: Barry LaZar >> Cc: Elecraft Refl >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions >> Message-ID: <9D5F9610-2293-4806-B00C-02A9EE37571E at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 minute Q&As at the Expo. >> >> I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB. But I could be mistaken, since I?m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver?s license ? if I can remember where that is :-) >> >> Whichever it is, it didn?t sound like it was going to be a first release feature. >> >> Grant NQ5T >> >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>> >>> Bill, >>> I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. >>> >>> 73, >>> Barry >>> K3NDM >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: >>> >>>> Barry >>>> >>>> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it posed >>>> as a question or suggestion? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> ...nr4c. bill >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency >>>>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or >>>>>> less on data modes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is >>>>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen) >>>>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This >>>>>> requires a MME format. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT >>>>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR >>>>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Bob, N6TV >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:54:51 -0400 >> From: Barry LaZar >> To: Grant Youngman >> Cc: Elecraft Refl >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Questions >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Grant, >> I know how you feel. It seems I'm missing a bunch of information. I >> guess it must be my advancing age. >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM >> >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 AM Grant Youngman wrote: >> >>> I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 >>> minute Q&As at the Expo. >>> >>> I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was >>> possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB. But I could be mistaken, since >>> I?m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver?s license ? if I >>> can remember where that is :-) >>> >>> Whichever it is, it didn?t sound like it was going to be a first release >>> feature. >>> >>> Grant NQ5T >>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>>> >>>> Bill, >>>> I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Barry >>>> K3NDM >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c wrote: >>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB? Or was it >>> posed >>>>> as a question or suggestion? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> ...nr4c. bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the >>> frequency >>>>>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or >>>>>>> less on data modes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Span and center frequency are adjustable. Fixed or tracking mode is >>>>>> available. Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off >>> screen) >>>>>> has different options, similar to P3: full page, half page, slide, >>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Probably it will work the same as a K3. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; >>> This >>>>>>> requires a MME format. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think that will work. Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT >>>>>> would be a simpler way to do it. A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR >>>>>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Bob, N6TV >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>>> >>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >>>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:00:45 -0500 >> From: David Christ >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Ward Silver also gave a presentation on this at the QSOtoday virtual hamfest. Still available for watching. >> >> David K0LUM >> >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> >>> On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote: >>>> Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver >>> >>> Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to radioham at mchsi.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:08:05 -0700 >> From: Jim Brown >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. >> Message-ID: >> <2bc6f9a5-ce97-2d1d-0859-0fd477729f3f at audiosystemsgroup.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> On 8/15/2020 8:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral >>> ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book. >> >> forgot the link. >> http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 09:24:54 -0700 (MST) >> From: Mike K8CN >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Problem >> Message-ID: <1597508694925-0.post at n2.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hi Per-Tore, >> >> Can you identify which transistor (or other device) on the LPA module is >> getting hot in transmit mode? >> >> The drain terminals of MOSFET PA transistors Q4 and Q5 receive +12V >> regardless of TX or RX mode, but the gate bias voltages are applied only in >> TX mode. Unless there's a problem with the bias regulator circuit (U1), the >> RF amplifier chain on the LPA module should not be getting that warm. It is >> also possible that one of the RF power transistors may be getting hot >> because it is no longer making good thermal contact with the bottom cover >> panel - it would be good to check the tightness of the three screws holding >> those transistors against the bottom panel. >> >> Is it possible for you to carefully extract the LPA module from the main RF >> board? That requires removal of the rear panel of the bottom cover, and you >> may need new thermal pads for the RF transistors if those pads are damaged >> by removal of the cover panel. If you can remove the LPA module, you might >> try RX mode ONLY with the Power control set to 0 (to ensure that the KPA3 PA >> is bypassed by its relay K1) and see if your receive sensitivity is >> restored. >> >> The output side of the LPA module is nominally connected only in TX mode to >> the antenna path via diode D1 on the LPA module, and if the D1 switch is >> operating properly one would not expect the high attenuation of signals in >> RX mode. The output of the LPA module is also connected to the input of the >> 100 W PA module at the same point on the T/R switch circuit, but that module >> is bypassed by relay K1 on the KPAIO3 board. >> >> I'm not yet sure how the overheating of a device on the LPA board is >> connected to the loss of RX sensitivity. If the diode switch D1 on the LPA >> module has failed shorted (unlikely), then it would leave the output >> circuitry of the LPA module bridged across the antenna signal path in RX >> mode. >> >> Keep us posted on what you learn! >> >> 73, >> Mike, K8CN >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:11:19 -0700 (MST) >> From: M1KTA >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] S Meter RX numbers? >> Message-ID: <1597511479291-0.post at n2.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Where in the physical chain of an KX3 are the RX s-meter signals >> obtained/derived? >> >> 72 >> Dom >> M1KTA >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:12:27 -0700 (MST) >> From: john daws >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA connection >> Message-ID: <1597515147011-0.post at n2.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Have had this working fine for a year until 2 months ago KX3 connected >> briefly to the KXPA100 and then cut out. >> >> The SYS LED light showed on the KXPA100 >> >> Have replaced PSU believing it to be a fault here. >> >> Have sent KXPA100 to Waters and Stanton (UK) for inspection and returned >> with clean bill of health. >> >> Reconnected using the 'KX3 to KXPA100 adapter cable' and replaced both 25 >> amp fuses. >> >> Same 'fault': KX3 cuts out straight away and no response at all now from the >> KXPA100 >> >> Could a new set of adapter cables now be the answer?? >> >> (The KX3 works fine on the KX33 low power RFI supply) >> >> Not a very technical person so please be gentle!! >> >> Thanks for any thoughts >> >> John >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:56:48 -0500 >> From: NE9U - Scott Jasper >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards >> Message-ID: <35239b73-5f4d-4307-84d3-87f033177383 at att.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> What does this mean?? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired?? Obsolete??? >> >> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." >> >> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >> '73 >> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >> >> >> ?Scott - NE9U >> >> Sent from my Cray-1 >> >> skjasper73 at gmail.com >> skjasper at att.net >> ne9u at arrl.net? >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 15:58:59 -0400 >> From: "Tom" >> To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" >> Subject: [Elecraft] There is a new release of Win4K3Suite >> Message-ID: <014c01d6733e$84cad420$8e607c60$@videotron.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hello, >> There is a new version of Win4K3Suite available. This release includes >> direct logging into Log4OM version 2 and some improvements to the ClubLog >> spotting module. >> >> Win4K3Suite is a full featured control program for the K3/S, KX3 and KX2. >> It has a built in Panadapter that works with LPPAN and a sound card, as well >> as the SDRPlay RSP's. It supports the KAT500, KPA500/1500 and the KXPA100 on >> most of the above radios. >> A unique feature is that is has 6 built in Virtual Radios, each of which >> works just like an Elecraft radio. This allows sharing of a single COM port >> with up to 6 applications. It also has a built in HRDLogbook server and the >> EiBi Shortwave database. >> You see more information here: >> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite >> and download a fully functional 30 day trial at va2fsq.com >> >> 73 Tom >> va2fsq.com >> >> >> -- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:20:21 -0700 >> From: Wayne Burdick >> To: M1KTA >> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] S Meter RX numbers? >> Message-ID: <653DBDF8-42C9-4FB1-8C98-3935C6720E13 at elecraft.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> In the DSP. This is the case for most SDRs. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> ---- >> elecraft.com >> >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:13 AM, M1KTA wrote: >>> >>> ?Where in the physical chain of an KX3 are the RX s-meter signals >>> obtained/derived? >>> >>> 72 >>> Dom >>> M1KTA >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:22:48 -0400 >> From: w4sc >> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: [Elecraft] For sale K3 with some K3S upgrades >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> Purchased this radio for a backup rig. Saving for a K4. >> Elecraft K3 (s/n 6995) with KAT3, KPA3, KRX3 sub RX, 8 pole filters >> (KFL3A-2.8, KFL3A-1.8, KFL3A-400) in main and sub receivers . >> K3S module updates include KSYN3As and KXV3B with 2nd pre-amp. >> Elecraft manuals, USB-RS232 adapter cable, >> KE7X "The Elecraft K3" book, MH2 microphone, DC cable, MFJ-4125 25A PS included. >> All you need is a "shack" and antenna. Checked out, excellent >> $2300 includes double boxed insured US ground shipping. >> Email off list for payment options. >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:31:48 -0700 >> From: Eric Swartz >> To: NE9U - Scott Jasper >> Cc: Elecraft list >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 boards >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi Scott, >> >> Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and repairs >> for the K3 and K3S. >> >> What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component >> level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building >> boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs >> on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list >> for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) >> >> 73, >> Eric >> *elecraft.com * >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper >> wrote: >> >>> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? >>> Obsolete??? >>> >>> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." >>> >>> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >>> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >>> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >>> '73 >>> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >>> >>> >>> ?Scott - NE9U >>> >>> Sent from my Cray-1 >>> >>> skjasper73 at gmail.com >>> skjasper at att.net >>> ne9u at arrl.net >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 18 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:35:39 -0700 >> From: Eric Swartz >> To: Keith Trinity WE6R >> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Season, disconnect COMPUTER etc. >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> One note: Keith mis-spoke when he stated "Spare K3 board supplies are low >> or gone". We certainly are not stopping support and repairs for the K3 and >> K3S. (Of course there are some lightning damaged radios that are not >> economical to repair.) Though some repairs may take longer as replacement >> parts are ordered. >> >> What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component >> level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building >> boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs >> on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list >> for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) >> >> Eric >> *elecraft.com * >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:47 AM Keith Trinity WE6R >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all; >>> I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in >>> for repair, August through October. >>> >>> It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your >>> COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem). >>> Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary >>> to do damage. >>> >>> Customer quotes; "I disconnected everything, EXCEPT..." then they list >>> ONE item. >>> Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone. >>> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >>> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >>> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >>> '73 >>> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 19 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:05:55 -0400 >> From: N4ZR >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 boards >> Message-ID: <8d597bf0-be2c-67c0-1400-e0fdbdcc1e83 at comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Lightning aside, when will those of us who have signed up for upgrades >> be told whether or not they will be accepted? >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR >> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network >> at , now >> spotting RTTY activity worldwide. >> For spots, please use your favorite >> "retail" DX cluster. >> >> On 8/15/2020 4:31 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and repairs >>> for the K3 and K3S. >>> >>> What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component >>> level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be building >>> boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap outs >>> on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list >>> for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade boards.) >>> >>> 73, >>> Eric >>> *elecraft.com * >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? >>>> Obsolete??? >>>> >>>> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." >>>> >>>> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >>>> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >>>> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >>>> '73 >>>> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >>>> >>>> >>>> ?Scott - NE9U >>>> >>>> Sent from my Cray-1 >>>> >>>> skjasper73 at gmail.com >>>> skjasper at att.net >>>> ne9u at arrl.net >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 20 >> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:27:33 -0700 >> From: kevinr >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement >> Message-ID: <3d3d3de2-6bb4-2f7f-3e08-932cbd9933f7 at coho.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Good Evening, >> >> ?? Fire danger got very high today.? It will be hot again tomorrow.? >> The highway to Seaside and Astoria was pretty full yesterday.? Hopefully >> none of those campers will start a fire. Luckily most of the heat will >> be gone by Wednesday.? There were some foggy mornings last week so the >> berries are doing a little better. >> >> ? Remember the time change for forty meters.? I'll be monitoring by >> 0030z but won't start calling until 0045z.? The band may be a little >> better with the day just a little shorter.? I expect the QSB will be >> present on both bands.? It is time to pull down my extra long doublet >> and check for wear.? It has been up for a few years without a problem.? >> It can receive on 160 meters but I can't match it close enough to >> transmit.? When I get it down I can check the measurements.? Or cut a >> new antenna for 20 and 40 meters. >> >> Please join us on (or near): >> >> 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) >> ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) >> >> ?? 73, >> ????? Kevin. KD5ONS >> >> >> _ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 21 >> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:17:06 -0400 >> From: Bill Frantz >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> Yesterday during NAQP, 40M was approaching decent at 0045z. All >> the bands were between bad and awful though. Good luck. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> On 8/15/20 at 11:27 PM, kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) wrote: >> >>> ? Remember the time change for forty meters.? I'll be >>> monitoring by 0030z but won't start calling until 0045z.? The >>> band may be a little better with the day just a little >>> shorter.? I expect the QSB will be present on both bands.? ... >>> >>> Please join us on (or near): >>> >>> 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) >>> ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the >> 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by >> www.pwpconsult.com | accident. - William Hugh Murray >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 22 >> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:17:46 -0500 >> From: NE9U - Scott Jasper >> To: Eric Swartz >> Cc: Elecraft list >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 boards >> Message-ID: <37122f80-ad7a-440f-9d3f-d11c0d0feb25 at att.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Ok great....good to know. >> >> I am thinking of replacing my OBSOLETE FT1000D second radio so2r for another k3. >> >> If anyone knows of a well filtered one at a reasonable price, I'm in the market.? Have one hot lead locally I'm waiting on..... >> >> ?Scott - NE9U >> >> Sent from my Cray-1 >> >> skjasper73 at gmail.com >> skjasper at att.net >> ne9u at arrl.net? >> >> On Aug 15, 2020, 3:32 PM, at 3:32 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> Keith mis-spoke on this. We certainly are not stopping support and >>> repairs >>> for the K3 and K3S. >>> >>> What is happening is that we are pivoting from board swaps to component >>> level repairs on many K3 and K3S boards. Also, we will still be >>> building >>> boards for these radios that can be sold for upgrades and repair swap >>> outs >>> on a case by case, lot basis, based on demand. (There is a sign up list >>> for upgrade / spare board requests on our web page for the upgrade >>> boards.) >>> >>> 73, >>> Eric >>> *elecraft.com * >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM NE9U - Scott Jasper >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What does this mean? K3's will no longer be able to be repaired? >>>> Obsolete??? >>>> >>>> "Spare K3 board supplies are low or gone." >>>> >>>> Besides the most likely Comm Port, then obvious Antenna, I have seen >>>> lightning come in other things connected to the K3, like; >>>> DC power cord, ground, Paddle/Key, Key-Out to Amp etc. >>>> '73 >>>> Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech >>>> >>>> >>>> ?Scott - NE9U >>>> >>>> Sent from my Cray-1 >>>> >>>> skjasper73 at gmail.com >>>> skjasper at att.net >>>> ne9u at arrl.net >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 23 >> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:06:14 +0000 >> From: Aubrey Mason >> To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for >> sale. >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> $2,100.00 >> KX3 was recently at the factory for upgrades (15W output, install upgrades, 2M module, factory alignment) >> Has all available options installed; KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, KX3-2M, KX3HSMDKT >> Includes: MH3, KXPD3, XG50, AX1+AXE1+AXB1, KX3-PCKT, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, soft carrying case, factory manual and KX3 book by Cady >> >> $450 >> PX3 has two sets of PX3-KX3 cables to connect it to the KX3, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, factory manual >> >> $100 >> New Powerwerx 30A switching power supply (lists on Elecraft website for $120 before tax and shipping) >> >> Located in San Antonio Texas >> >> 73's ! >> >> Aubrey Mason >> WA6DMI >> 210-602-4291 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 24 >> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:09:26 -0400 >> From: w4sc >> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: [Elecraft] Bracket KPA3A E100719 >> Message-ID: <3D.D5.03475.564893F5 at smtp02.aqua.bos.sync.lan> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I discovered Bracket KPA3A E100719 in the K3S spare parts list. It is not shown in any installation instructions. >> >> Anyone have an idea as to purpose and installation? >> >> Ben W4SC >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 25 >> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 18:11:46 -0400 >> From: Larry Makoski >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] NJQRP Skeeter Hunt - What's next? >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Skeeter Hunters, >> >> Wow! That was a blast! Even though band conditions were far from stellar >> (I'm trying to be kind!), there seemed to be a lot of activity - and that's >> because of all of YOU! Without you, the Skeeter Hunt would be a big >> nothing. All of you out there make it what it is - and I'm so grateful to >> all of you for that. >> >> The next step is to submit your log summaries. This is not a complicated or >> arduous undertaking - NJQRP means to keep it "Easy peasy, lemon squeezy". >> No ADIFs or Cabrillos are needed - no jumping through hoops. Just send an >> e-mail to w2lj at arrl.net with the following (example shown) >> >> Larry - W2LJ - NJ >> Skeeter #13 - All CW >> Single Op >> Skeeter QSOs - 23 >> Non-Skeeter QRP QSOs - 5 >> Non-Skeeter QRO QSOs - (if any) >> S/P/Cs - 18 >> Station Class Multiplier X4 >> Bonus - Yes or No as to whether or not you used a homebrew antenna. >> >> Please feel free to include your soapbox comments and any photos you wish >> to share. >> >> All this is due two weeks from today - August 30th, 2020. The Scoreboard >> will be posted over Labor Day weeebnd and certificates and the publishing >> of the Soapbox will follow soon afterward. >> >> On behalf of NJQRP - once again ...... thanks do much for being there! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 26 >> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:10:51 -0600 >> From: Jim White NC0JW >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20 Meter SSB Net - Sunday August 16, 2020 >> Message-ID: <02A3F434-5A6A-493B-A4A8-D786ADD19E1C at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Our illustrious net control Eric, WB9JNZ is still having some computer issues this week so I am submitting the Elecraft 20 Meter SSB net report. >> >> QSB was with us again this week as it has been for quite some time. This week's signals were weak a crossed the board with few exceptions. We are all anxiously awaiting who will be the first to check in into the net with their new K4. >> >> Twenty-three check ins were recorded with the always appreciated help from the relay stations. Thanks to Roger N4NRW, John N6JW, and Brian K1NW for the digging out today?s weak signals. >> >> WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net control >> N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 Relay station >> K8NU/7 Carl OH Remote from WA >> WM6P Steve GA K3S 11453 >> N6JW John CA K3 936 Relay station >> NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 Relay station >> AE6JV Bill NH K3 6299 >> N2TNQ Len NJ K3 5270 >> W1NGA Al CO K3 5765 >> N7CVZ Mike OR K3S 10457 >> K3SV Bill FL K3 1355 >> K1NW Brian RI K3 4974 Relay station >> KF7ZN Ron UT K3S 10832 >> KB9AVO Paul IN K3S 11103 >> K5KBM/7 Kyle GA Remote from WA >> W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 >> K0JFJ Nick MN KX2 3056 >> K7BRR Bill OR K3S 10939 >> AE1E Ken TX Remote station NM >> K6VWE Stan MI K3 650 >> WM6T Tracy CA K3S 10299 >> WW4JF John TN K3S 11177 >> K7JG John WA KX3 3519 >> >> We were unable to complete contacts with KI4FJK and KI7BZB. Hopefully they will try again next week. >> >> The 20 Meter Elecraft SSB Net meets each Sunday at 1800 UTC on 14.3035 MHz. Eric WB9JNZ in Chicago is Net control for the 20 Meter SSB Net. At 1900 UTC Steve WM6P from Northern Georgia is Net Control for the 40 Meter SSB Net on 7.280 MHz. Later on Sunday evening at 0100 UTC the 80 Meter Elecraft SSB Net meets on 3.942 MHz with Paul KB9AVO as Net control from Indiana. >> >> Join us on one the nets and see what the propagations Gods are throwing at us. >> >> Jim White - NC0JW >> ars.nc0jw at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> You must be a subscriber to post. >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 >> ***************************************** > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w4kx at mac.com From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 07:13:07 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:13:07 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <0E5795C9-94E0-45DC-8AE9-4D35E7FDF431@gedge.us> References: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> <0E5795C9-94E0-45DC-8AE9-4D35E7FDF431@gedge.us> Message-ID: <2444650d-6d10-c5eb-e612-3b5ea4985a64@gmail.com> Here is my Power Pole holder. It is just a piece of 1.6mm thick aluminum with a notch in it. The notch is sized precisely to fit the groove in the sides of the APP. I just drilled a few holes and filed it to size. Then you make a slightly larger rectangular hole in the panel that will pass the back part of the APP. All that's left is the mounting holes. Here's a picture (link is case-sensitive): 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ . On 17/08/2020 12:45, Paul Gedge wrote: > Victor, > > I?ve never considered fabricating such a solution. ?Wonderful idea! > > Thank you!! > > Love to see any photo of the solution. > > > Best Regards, > KF7WCY > Paul Gedge > Salt Lake City, Utah > USA > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > *Date:* August 17, 2020 at 1:36:59 AM MDT > *To:* Elecraft Reflector > *Subject:* *Re:? [Elecraft] OT construction question* > > ?Never mind, I made my own metal dohickey! Just a piece of 1.6mm > aluminum with a notch in it. Very cool, if I do say so myself! > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 17-Aug-2020 09:56, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >> What do you think about epoxy-ing an Anderson Power Pole connector >> into a 3mm aluminum panel? >> Would it be durable? >> I know there is a metal dohickey to mount an APP to a panel, but it's >> not available here and I don't want to wait weeks. >> Or should I just go with a grommet and pigtail? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pgedge at gedge.org From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 07:32:07 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 07:32:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> References: <2c40cbe4-81ca-fd55-32cf-47a8f1817da3@gmail.com> <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f3a6ac0.1c69fb81.40e5b.bc82@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-17 10:35:+0300, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >Never mind, I made my own metal dohickey! Just a piece of 1.6mm aluminum with a notch in it. Very cool, if I do say so myself! > >73, >Victor, 4X6GP >Rehovot, Israel Please show image. I use an external battery, and made an adapter using a Powerpole and a barrel connector. I do that for much of my radio gear, and have adapters from Powerpole to USB, those polarized connectors we use for cars here in the US (I call them SAE connectors), round plug for my Beemer, and US cigarette|power sockets...etc...that way, it is all interoperable. From Lyn at LNAINC.com Mon Aug 17 07:59:07 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 06:59:07 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 - Lightning Message-ID: <137b01d6748d$d021b8d0$70652a70$@LNAINC.com> FWIW, I have never had lightning come in on power, phone, cable or anything else like that. All our services are underground for miles prior to reaching our house, and that probably helps. We DID have a direct lightning strike on the house several years ago. It struck an attic fan on the roof and followed the electrical wiring to the boxes in the basement, branching out wherever it could and knocking out the whole electrical system. In the process, as it blew up boxes and panels, it blew out a chunk of PVC carrying water from the well into the pressure tank. And it blew the tank. It also started a small fire in the attic (insulation), but that didn't do too much since the large hole in the roof allowed rain to come in for about 5 hours before we returned home from work. The rain, however, caused sheet-rocked ceilings (especially over the two-story foyer) to sag. And of course with no power, the sump pump was out and the basement flooded (to a depth of about 6 inches until I could run a line from the neighbor's house). The EMP (or something ...) was apparently strong enough to even knock out wall clocks that were battery operated. At our Fire Dept. station (about 2 miles away), the Chief said it sounded like a bomb went off. We were 30 miles away at the time, but our two little kitties were in the basement and when I let them out 5 hours later, their fur was still standing on end. So this is a problem when living in the country where houses are far apart, there are no power lines to "catch" the lightning and the only physical connection into the ground of any significance is a PVC pipe going to the well (which was also blown out thru the wiring). The lightning actually exited the house on the natural gas line. The damage was extensive, and we had to evacuate for 5 weeks. It was another 4 months or so before everything was completed (we did some upgrades in the process). Since then, I have had a lightning protection system professionally installed under the direction of an engineer who guesstimated our strike at 50,000 amps. I had no antennas of any sort at the time, but I do now and have protected it as best I know (see box on QRZ page). 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wilson Lamb Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 8:40 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 I have 2X K3, but am not even qualified to to talk about them. I CAN say, without reservation, that our antennae are NOT our primary danger points, at least for those of us with modest (50' and under) installations. In 65 years of operating all sorts of stuff, I have NEVER seen lightning damage due to antenna pickup. I have seen LOTS of damage level stuff come in on phone lines, however! Most thunderstorms in our area create firecracker discharges in my phone demarc box, which is just across the basement from my operating area. They scare me, especially when they occur when I'm disconnecting my phones/modem, which are connected to the outside world with alligator clips. I have lost multiple phones and modems to this stuff, when it exceeds the impressive levels the demarc can handle, but never anything to do with radio. This is a great fringe benefit of WIFI. The stuff we used to lose through ethernet connections is now airgapped from the modem. Pulling the plug is almost foolproof protection. I don't connect computers to radios, so there's an airgap already in place. When I see the storm coming, I disconnect all radios from their antennae AND power supplies. Now, I KNOW lots of people have suffered from antenna pickup, but I'm betting power/phone lines have produced far more incidents. Trouble is, if you get a real hit on an antenna, all bets are off and my experience doesn't matter at all! If you set up to run from a battery, you can achieve considerable isolation, especially if you unplug the charger before storms come. It would be interesting to hear stories of damaging events caused by phone line transients coming into houses. WL From k2asp at kanafi.org Mon Aug 17 11:34:50 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:34:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <2444650d-6d10-c5eb-e612-3b5ea4985a64@gmail.com> References: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> <0E5795C9-94E0-45DC-8AE9-4D35E7FDF431@gedge.us> <2444650d-6d10-c5eb-e612-3b5ea4985a64@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/17/2020 4:13 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Here is my Power Pole holder. It is just a piece of 1.6mm thick aluminum > with a notch in it. The notch is sized precisely to fit the groove in > the sides of the APP. I just drilled a few holes and filed it to size. > Then you make a slightly larger rectangular hole in the panel that will > pass the back part of the APP. All that's left is the mounting holes. > > Here's a picture (link is case-sensitive): > Nice job! 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane (ex-4X4UQ - Ramat Gan, ISR) Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Sat Aug 15 11:05:17 2020 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave Baxter) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:05:17 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI. RS232 (and other serial link type) LEMP (Lightning Electro Magnetic Pulse) surge protectors are available from several vendors, and not that expensive, compared to the cost of a rig, or top range PC. Often wonder why (other than expence) fibre optic links are not used. CAT & audio over a LAN or USB FO link? Would help general EMC issues too. Dave G0WBX From bbaines at mac.com Mon Aug 17 12:09:35 2020 From: bbaines at mac.com (Barry Baines) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:09:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave: > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Dave Baxter via Elecraft wrote: > > FYI. > > RS232 (and other serial link type) LEMP (Lightning Electro Magnetic Pulse) > surge protectors are available from several vendors, and not that > expensive, compared to the cost of a rig, or top range PC. > > Often wonder why (other than expence) fibre optic links are not used. CAT > & audio over a LAN or USB FO link? > > Would help general EMC issues too. Following a lightning incident back in 2014, I followed the adage that Al, N4ZZ put out about using Fiber in the shack for ethernet connections. I have four fiber lines from the house to the garage/hamshack that replaced two ethernet lines. Each is 111. ft long. Each line carries a grouping of connections such as one for my Flex system, one for my Electraft system, one for Broadcastify and data collection, and the fourth for ?all other?. I have my network in the shack segregated so that if the Flex system goes out the Elecraft system will hopefully continue. Given that I primarily operate remotely, redundancy in amateur operations is critical because it may be 4-6 weeks between visits to the ham shack that is over 1,280 miles away. I also use fiber as a ?fire break? between network switches in the shack and high value equipment such as transceivers. I haven?t found suitable fiber media converters for RS232 or USB. I still have Telco and CATV coax running between the house and shack; it would be nice to find a fiber media converter for those lines as well. I will probably remove them given they are not currently in use. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA) > > Dave G0WBX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com From garnere at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 12:35:15 2020 From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:35:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT construction question In-Reply-To: <2444650d-6d10-c5eb-e612-3b5ea4985a64@gmail.com> References: <935c5f80-5807-a4cc-053f-47528e13b1f6@gmail.com> <0E5795C9-94E0-45DC-8AE9-4D35E7FDF431@gedge.us> <2444650d-6d10-c5eb-e612-3b5ea4985a64@gmail.com> Message-ID: In the future, if you dont feel like homebrewing a mount, powerwerx makes 2 and 4 powerpole panel mounts like that. P/N 1462G1 and 146G3 -eric On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 4:14 AM Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Here is my Power Pole holder. It is just a piece of 1.6mm thick aluminum > with a notch in it. The notch is sized precisely to fit the groove in > the sides of the APP. I just drilled a few holes and filed it to size. > Then you make a slightly larger rectangular hole in the panel that will > pass the back part of the APP. All that's left is the mounting holes. > > Here's a picture (link is case-sensitive): > > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > . > On 17/08/2020 12:45, Paul Gedge wrote: > > Victor, > > > > I?ve never considered fabricating such a solution. Wonderful idea! > > > > Thank you!! > > > > Love to see any photo of the solution. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > KF7WCY > > Paul Gedge > > Salt Lake City, Utah > > USA > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From:* Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > > *Date:* August 17, 2020 at 1:36:59 AM MDT > > *To:* Elecraft Reflector > > *Subject:* *Re: [Elecraft] OT construction question* > > > > ?Never mind, I made my own metal dohickey! Just a piece of 1.6mm > > aluminum with a notch in it. Very cool, if I do say so myself! > > > > 73, > > Victor, 4X6GP > > Rehovot, Israel > > Formerly K2VCO > > CWops no. 5 > > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > > > On 17-Aug-2020 09:56, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > >> What do you think about epoxy-ing an Anderson Power Pole connector > >> into a 3mm aluminum panel? > >> Would it be durable? > >> I know there is a metal dohickey to mount an APP to a panel, but it's > >> not available here and I don't want to wait weeks. > >> Or should I just go with a grommet and pigtail? > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to pgedge at gedge.org > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to garnere at gmail.com From 99sunset at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 13:38:08 2020 From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 13:38:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 40 meter SSB Sunday net Message-ID: At 1900Z we had a good number of check-ins. Additionally I am enjoying the Zoom meetings that follow at 4pm Eastern. Nice to put some faces with the calls. WM6P STEVE GA net control KB9AVO CARL IN WY3T TIM FL N4NRW ROGER SC WB9JNZ ERIC IL WA4ORC CARL NC WD4ERM KEN GA NC0JW JIM CO AE6JV BILL NH N8NU CARL OH W4DAX TOM FL From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Aug 17 18:17:54 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 18:17:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 - Lightning In-Reply-To: <137b01d6748d$d021b8d0$70652a70$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: Our family house a mile up the hill, and my radio shack, has lightning rods. I've been in buildings with lightning rods two or three times when they were struck by lightning. Nothing inside was harmed, but the noise was incredible. What I don't know is the relation between radio and other electronic equipment and a lightning rod installation. For example, do you bond the radio grounds to the lightning rod grounds? At ground level, or anywhere along the wire? Too bad I can't find my copy of N0AX's book on the subject. Need to do more digging. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/17/20 at 7:59 AM, Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) wrote: >FWIW, I have never had lightning come in on power, phone, cable or anything >else like that. All our services are underground for miles prior to >reaching our house, and that probably helps. > >We DID have a direct lightning strike on the house several years ago. It >struck an attic fan on the roof and followed the electrical wiring to the >boxes in the basement, branching out wherever it could and knocking out the >whole electrical system. In the process, as it blew up boxes and panels, it >blew out a chunk of PVC carrying water from the well into the pressure tank. >And it blew the tank. > >It also started a small fire in the attic (insulation), but that didn't do >too much since the large hole in the roof allowed rain to come in for about >5 hours before we returned home from work. The rain, however, caused >sheet-rocked ceilings (especially over the two-story foyer) to sag. And of >course with no power, the sump pump was out and the basement flooded (to a >depth of about 6 inches until I could run a line from the neighbor's house). > >The EMP (or something ...) was apparently strong enough to even knock out >wall clocks that were battery operated. At our Fire Dept. station (about 2 >miles away), the Chief said it sounded like a bomb went off. We were 30 >miles away at the time, but our two little kitties were in the basement and >when I let them out 5 hours later, their fur was still standing on end. > >So this is a problem when living in the country where houses are far apart, >there are no power lines to "catch" the lightning and the only physical >connection into the ground of any significance is a PVC pipe going to the >well (which was also blown out thru the wiring). The lightning actually >exited the house on the natural gas line. The damage was extensive, and we >had to evacuate for 5 weeks. It was another 4 months or so before >everything was completed (we did some upgrades in the process). Since then, >I have had a lightning protection system professionally installed under the >direction of an engineer who guesstimated our strike at 50,000 amps. > >I had no antennas of any sort at the time, but I do now and have protected >it as best I know (see box on QRZ page). ---------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Art is how we decorate space, 408-348-7900 | music is how we decorate time. www.pwpconsult.com | -Jean-Michel Basquiat From byron at n6nul.org Mon Aug 17 18:40:57 2020 From: byron at n6nul.org (Byron Servies) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:40:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI, Corning makes an integrated USB/fiber -> fiber/usb solution: https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/en/products/usb-optical-cables.html 73, Byron N6NUL On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:11 AM Barry Baines via Elecraft wrote: > > Dave: > > > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Dave Baxter via Elecraft wrote: > > > > FYI. > > > > RS232 (and other serial link type) LEMP (Lightning Electro Magnetic Pulse) > > surge protectors are available from several vendors, and not that > > expensive, compared to the cost of a rig, or top range PC. > > > > Often wonder why (other than expence) fibre optic links are not used. CAT > > & audio over a LAN or USB FO link? > > > > Would help general EMC issues too. > > Following a lightning incident back in 2014, I followed the adage that Al, N4ZZ put out about using Fiber in the shack for ethernet connections. I have four fiber lines from the house to the garage/hamshack that replaced two ethernet lines. Each is 111. ft long. Each line carries a grouping of connections such as one for my Flex system, one for my Electraft system, one for Broadcastify and data collection, and the fourth for ?all other?. I have my network in the shack segregated so that if the Flex system goes out the Elecraft system will hopefully continue. Given that I primarily operate remotely, redundancy in amateur operations is critical because it may be 4-6 weeks between visits to the ham shack that is over 1,280 miles away. > > I also use fiber as a ?fire break? between network switches in the shack and high value equipment such as transceivers. > > I haven?t found suitable fiber media converters for RS232 or USB. I still have Telco and CATV coax running between the house and shack; it would be nice to find a fiber media converter for those lines as well. I will probably remove them given they are not currently in use. > > > > FWIW, > > Barry Baines, WD4ASW > (Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA) > > > > > > Dave G0WBX > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to byron at n6nul.org -- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2020 - www.cqp.org From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon Aug 17 20:12:10 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:12:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5c902f77-5261-636d-30bf-7002d7fa147f@triconet.org> I took a quick look at these on Amazon.. Hugely expensive and very unreliable. Wes? N7WS On 8/17/2020 3:40 PM, Byron Servies wrote: > FYI, > > Corning makes an integrated USB/fiber -> fiber/usb solution: > > https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/en/products/usb-optical-cables.html > > 73, Byron N6NUL > > From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon Aug 17 21:25:13 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 18:25:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? Message-ID: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> No, this is not a trick question :) And yes, I'm aware that most data mode operation uses computer based modes like FT8 and JS9call these days. But read on. Of all the data modes available to ultralight adventures, RTTY is the easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a KX3 or KX2: - it's easy to tune in mark/space tones using the CWT display on the rig's LCD - text decode appears immediately on the VFO B display -- no other gear required - paddle-sent CW gets converted to RTTY while in FSK-D mode - no need for a computer, smartphone, etc. to do demodulation The K3/K3S, KX3, and KX2 all have these RTTY and PSK modes built-in, at multiple baud rates. I've made hundreds of Field Day and contest QSOs using RTTY on Elecraft rigs, but I was wondering...has anyone tried RTTY on a SOTA outing? If someone would like to experiment with this on a sked, I'd be happy to give it a go. I also have the vague notion that slower, nonstandard RTTY might be fun to experiment with to improve SNR and reduce bit error rate during fading. Thoughts on this topic would be welcome. It would be easy to add such a mode to our KX line. 73, Wayne N6KR From va3mw at portcredit.net Mon Aug 17 22:16:58 2020 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:16:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Wayne I think doing RTTY is a good idea. Speaking from someone who used to own a Model 15 with Tube Terminal Unit! :) I still do RTTY today. Mike va3mw On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:27 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > No, this is not a trick question :) And yes, I'm aware that most data > mode operation uses computer based modes like FT8 and JS9call these days. > But read on. > > Of all the data modes available to ultralight adventures, RTTY is the > easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a KX3 or KX2: > > - it's easy to tune in mark/space tones using the CWT display on the rig's > LCD > > - text decode appears immediately on the VFO B display -- no other gear > required > > - paddle-sent CW gets converted to RTTY while in FSK-D mode > > - no need for a computer, smartphone, etc. to do demodulation > > The K3/K3S, KX3, and KX2 all have these RTTY and PSK modes built-in, at > multiple baud rates. > > I've made hundreds of Field Day and contest QSOs using RTTY on Elecraft > rigs, but I was wondering...has anyone tried RTTY on a SOTA outing? > > If someone would like to experiment with this on a sked, I'd be happy to > give it a go. > > I also have the vague notion that slower, nonstandard RTTY might be fun to > experiment with to improve SNR and reduce bit error rate during fading. > Thoughts on this topic would be welcome. It would be easy to add such a > mode to our KX line. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon Aug 17 23:00:51 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:00:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <95AAFBF3-625E-48D9-B8BF-BA0AFC87EFC3@elecraft.com> Yeah, Mike, there's something "magic" about it. Receive tuning isn't finicky. And when you send CW with the paddle, you get to hear both your CW sidetone as well as the FSK mark/space tones, 12 dB down :) Wayne N6KR > On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > Wayne > > I think doing RTTY is a good idea. Speaking from someone who used to own a Model 15 with Tube Terminal Unit! :) > > I still do RTTY today. > > Mike va3mw > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:27 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > No, this is not a trick question :) And yes, I'm aware that most data mode operation uses computer based modes like FT8 and JS9call these days. But read on. > > Of all the data modes available to ultralight adventures, RTTY is the easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a KX3 or KX2: > > - it's easy to tune in mark/space tones using the CWT display on the rig's LCD > > - text decode appears immediately on the VFO B display -- no other gear required > > - paddle-sent CW gets converted to RTTY while in FSK-D mode > > - no need for a computer, smartphone, etc. to do demodulation > > The K3/K3S, KX3, and KX2 all have these RTTY and PSK modes built-in, at multiple baud rates. > > I've made hundreds of Field Day and contest QSOs using RTTY on Elecraft rigs, but I was wondering...has anyone tried RTTY on a SOTA outing? > > If someone would like to experiment with this on a sked, I'd be happy to give it a go. > > I also have the vague notion that slower, nonstandard RTTY might be fun to experiment with to improve SNR and reduce bit error rate during fading. Thoughts on this topic would be welcome. It would be easy to add such a mode to our KX line. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net From m0lep at hewett.org Tue Aug 18 03:49:07 2020 From: m0lep at hewett.org (Rick M0LEP) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:49:07 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> <95AAFBF3-625E-48D9-B8BF-BA0AFC87EFC3@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <3db.5f3b87f3.d81d3@hewett.org> On Tue 18 Aug Wayne Burdick wrote: > If someone would like to experiment with this on a sked, I'd be happy > to give it a go. The 2020 SOTA Challenge is running different "Flavours" for the first seven UTC days of each month this year. As luck would have it, the flavour for September 1st-7th is datamodes. I'm pretty sure RTTY counts there. :) For more details see the announcement on the SOTA reflector at https://reflector.sota.org.uk/t/sota-flavours-challenge-2020/21808 ....with more at https://reflector.sota.org.uk/t/flavours-challenge-discussion/21953 ....and discussion of the previous datamodes week at https://reflector.sota.org.uk/t/datamodes-challenge-flavour-1st-7th-february-2020/22009 -- 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) From jack at satterfield.org Tue Aug 18 07:36:36 2020 From: jack at satterfield.org (jack satterfield) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:36:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 fair value Message-ID: <000f01d67553$d681e260$8385a720$@org> I am thinking of selling my KPA500, appreciate comments on fair value in excellent condition. Thanks, Jack W4GRJ From w4grj at satterfield.org Tue Aug 18 07:39:14 2020 From: w4grj at satterfield.org (w4grj) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:39:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Fair Value Message-ID: <001401d67554$344ea400$9cebec00$@org> I am thinking of selling my KPA500, appreciate comments on fair value in excellent condition. Thanks, Jack W4GRJ From ktalbott at gamewood.net Tue Aug 18 08:41:47 2020 From: ktalbott at gamewood.net (ktalbott at gamewood.net) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:41:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. In-Reply-To: <5c902f77-5261-636d-30bf-7002d7fa147f@triconet.org> References: <5c902f77-5261-636d-30bf-7002d7fa147f@triconet.org> Message-ID: <009b01d6755c$f11255c0$d3370140$@gamewood.net> It looks like the fiber optic cable from Corning has 28AWG wires end to end! -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wes Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 8:12 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. I took a quick look at these on Amazon.. Hugely expensive and very unreliable. Wes N7WS On 8/17/2020 3:40 PM, Byron Servies wrote: > FYI, > > Corning makes an integrated USB/fiber -> fiber/usb solution: > > https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/en/product > s/usb-optical-cables.html > > 73, Byron N6NUL > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ktalbott at gamewood.net From brian at elecraft.com Tue Aug 18 11:20:51 2020 From: brian at elecraft.com (Brian Broggie) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:20:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. In-Reply-To: <009b01d6755c$f11255c0$d3370140$@gamewood.net> References: <5c902f77-5261-636d-30bf-7002d7fa147f@triconet.org> <009b01d6755c$f11255c0$d3370140$@gamewood.net> Message-ID: Yep. Supplies +5 & gnd to the optical enc/decoder at each end. The signal lines are fiber optic. Brian, W6FVI On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 5:43 AM wrote: > It looks like the fiber optic cable from Corning has 28AWG wires end to > end! > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Wes > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 8:12 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning protection. > > I took a quick look at these on Amazon.. Hugely expensive and very > unreliable. > > Wes N7WS > > On 8/17/2020 3:40 PM, Byron Servies wrote: > > FYI, > > > > Corning makes an integrated USB/fiber -> fiber/usb solution: > > > > https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/en/product > > s/usb-optical-cables.html > > > > 73, Byron N6NUL > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ktalbott at gamewood.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian at elecraft.com > From maxrcul at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 16:03:46 2020 From: maxrcul at gmail.com (Bill DeVore) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:03:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Programmers Reference Message-ID: I just got a K-Pod and I'm in the process of teaching myself how to write macros. Is there any more user friendly documentation than the Elecraft Programmer's Reference Rev G5, 2/20/19? Maybe a list of existing macros for the K3? Bill - W3PNM From dick at elecraft.com Tue Aug 18 16:20:47 2020 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:20:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Programmers Reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201d6759d$0f0995d0$2d1cc170$@elecraft.com> https://www.amazon.com/Elecraft-Macro-Programming-Fred-Cady/dp/B073Q8RDW3 Also there are a few macro examples in the K3 Utility Help for the Command Tester page. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bill DeVore Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 13:04 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Programmers Reference I just got a K-Pod and I'm in the process of teaching myself how to write macros. Is there any more user friendly documentation than the Elecraft Programmer's Reference Rev G5, 2/20/19? Maybe a list of existing macros for the K3? Bill - W3PNM ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From k7sss at aol.com Tue Aug 18 16:31:47 2020 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Programmers Reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1389270982.2986431.1597782707787@mail.yahoo.com> ?Hi Bill,Also try Fred Cady (SK) site, www.ke7x.com. It has quite a bit on macros.73Jim H K7sssIn a message dated 8/18/2020 1:06:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, maxrcul at gmail.com writes:? I just got a K-Pod and I'm in the process of teaching myself how to writemacros. Is there any more user friendly documentation than theElecraft Programmer's Reference Rev G5, 2/20/19??Maybe a list of existing macros for the K3??Bill - W3PNM______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net?This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com From maxrcul at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 16:57:01 2020 From: maxrcul at gmail.com (Bill DeVore) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:57:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Programmers Reference In-Reply-To: <1389270982.2986431.1597782707787@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1389270982.2986431.1597782707787@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20BAA24B-D81F-4D5E-8624-607E86AB9F42@gmail.com> Thanks all for the quick response. I just ordered Fred?s book. It?s just what I needed Bill W3PNM Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2020, at 16:31, k7sss at aol.com wrote: > > ? > > Hi Bill, > Also try Fred Cady (SK) site, www.ke7x.com. It has quite a bit on macros. > 73 > Jim H K7sss > In a message dated 8/18/2020 1:06:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, maxrcul at gmail.com writes: > > I just got a K-Pod and I'm in the process of teaching myself how to write > macros. Is there any more user friendly documentation than the > Elecraft Programmer's Reference Rev G5, 2/20/19? > > Maybe a list of existing macros for the K3? > > Bill - W3PNM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k7sss at aol.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Aug 18 17:28:52 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:28:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: References: <1289002577.3895211.1597628400836.JavaMail.zimbra@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <4e54d96f-ce12-2437-4c92-9f6910cebbfd@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/17/2020 4:04 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote: > I?ve had a similar experience: lightning came in via the cable line, Lightning also induces current on wiring inside our homes. took out the cable modem, the router, the PC, and the serial interface on the K3. This is a VERY common problem. It is caused by failure to do proper bonding, and by the use of SHUNT-mode surge protectors like MOVs. SERIES-mode protectors, like those made by Brick Wall and Surge-X do NOT cause these failures. They're not cheap, but neither is the equipment they're protecting. Pin One Problems are another cause, and every ham rig I've ever inspected has them, including the K3. Study Ward Silver's excellent ARRL book on the topic, and/or http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf and get VERY serious about bonding both in your shack and throughout your home. > At this point the replacement PC communicates with the internet using WiFi. That's a very good replacement for wired Ethernet, and eliminates one part of the problem. I've used it for about 16 years, starting in a Chicago residential neighborhood and continuing when I moved to the Santa Cruz Mtns in 2006. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Aug 18 17:43:50 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:43:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 - Lightning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/17/2020 3:17 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > hat I don't know is the relation between radio and other electronic > equipment and a lightning rod installation. For example, do you bond the > radio grounds to the lightning rod grounds? At ground level, or anywhere > along the wire? > > Too bad I can't find my copy of N0AX's book on the subject. Need to do > more digging. Hi Bill, Here are slides for a talk I've done at Pacificon, Visalia, NCCC, and other local clubs. I worked extensively with Ward on the book. While I was still working, I gave tutorial workshops on the topic to companies installing large sound and video systems. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf The short answer is that EVERY earth connection MUST, both BY LAW (electrical safety codes) and by good engineering practice, be bonded together. More of everything is better. :) That means rods, building steel, metallic cold water plumbing, entry for power, telco, CATV, antennas. It's also critical that all equipment that is interconnected be bonded together. That means short, fat copper. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Aug 18 18:44:32 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:44:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <821d7689-57cf-7cba-9b62-d3f7a9b54dff@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/17/2020 6:25 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > RTTY is the easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a KX3 or KX2: That's the easy part. The hard part is finding someone to work, except during RTTY contests, and contesters are not going to be happy with RTTY sent that way. :) 73, Jim K9YC From vk4tux at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 20:02:41 2020 From: vk4tux at gmail.com (Adrian) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 10:02:41 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: <821d7689-57cf-7cba-9b62-d3f7a9b54dff@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> <821d7689-57cf-7cba-9b62-d3f7a9b54dff@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Jim, Yes tough to find RTTY on the bands now. I have had to setup skeds via RTTY online groups/clubs to get a RTTY session. Also Gabe VK2LGS please PM (good on qrz re vk4tux email), for a RTTY contact if interested. Adrian Fewster On 19/8/20 8:44 am, Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/17/2020 6:25 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> RTTY is the easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a >> KX3 or KX2: > > That's the easy part. The hard part is finding someone to work, except > during RTTY contests, and contesters are not going to be happy with > RTTY sent that way. :) > > 73, Jim K9YC > From paul142857 at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 20:11:35 2020 From: paul142857 at gmail.com (Paul Huff) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:11:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died Message-ID: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> A couple of weeks ago we had a large thunderstorm roll through here with unfortunate consequences. It took out our DVR cable box and the HDMI port on the TV that it was attached to. The TV and its other HDMI port are fine. An external USB hard drive hooked up to my computer (which was turned off) was also impacted but after disconnecting it, rebooting, etc., it is working fine. But it appears that I have also lost the KIO2 interface unit between my Elecraft K2 and computer. The radio was disconnected from the antenna and turned off and is fine. I didn?t even notice that there was a problem until I realized that my computer log was not getting mode and frequency information from the rig. (I don?t operate digital so logging is really the only thing that I use the KIO2 for.) The USB ports on the computer are all good and the logging software does ?think? that there is an input but no communications is taking place. So that means that there is either a problem with the KIO2 itself, or the serial-to-usb unit that it connects through. Does anyone have suggestions on how I can go about diagnosing (and fixing) this issue? Thanks in advance for any replies. 73, Paul - N8XMS Paul - N8XMS 100% QRP CW Past President of the NAQCC http://www.naqcc.info/ From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue Aug 18 20:20:54 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:20:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died In-Reply-To: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> References: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Paul, If all else fails, let me know. I have a spare K2 with a KIO2 that I never use, and I'll be happy to send it to you. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 18, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Paul Huff wrote: > > A couple of weeks ago we had a large thunderstorm roll through here with unfortunate consequences. It took out our DVR cable box and the HDMI port on the TV that it was attached to. The TV and its other HDMI port are fine. An external USB hard drive hooked up to my computer (which was turned off) was also impacted but after disconnecting it, rebooting, etc., it is working fine. > > But it appears that I have also lost the KIO2 interface unit between my Elecraft K2 and computer. The radio was disconnected from the antenna and turned off and is fine. I didn?t even notice that there was a problem until I realized that my computer log was not getting mode and frequency information from the rig. (I don?t operate digital so logging is really the only thing that I use the KIO2 for.) The USB ports on the computer are all good and the logging software does ?think? that there is an input but no communications is taking place. So that means that there is either a problem with the KIO2 itself, or the serial-to-usb unit that it connects through. > > Does anyone have suggestions on how I can go about diagnosing (and fixing) this issue? > > Thanks in advance for any replies. > > 73, > > Paul - N8XMS > Paul - N8XMS > 100% QRP CW > Past President of the NAQCC > http://www.naqcc.info/ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue Aug 18 20:35:57 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:35:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Looking for an email address for Bill Frieder, N4QNF Message-ID: <0E21047F-35F3-4E3A-B5C6-CAD9BB10950B@elecraft.com> Unfortunately the email address for Bill on QRZ.com bounced. If you know of a more current email address, or a phone number, please contact me offline. tnx Wayne N6KR From dave.w0zf at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 21:33:11 2020 From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:33:11 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> <821d7689-57cf-7cba-9b62-d3f7a9b54dff@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: A few weeks ago, I was playing with my KX2 and tuning around on 20m when I ran across a RTTY signal. It was a special event station. I worked them with the paddle on the KX2. I wouldn?t want to work RTTY all day that way, but it does get the job done without a PC, and RTTY outside of contests does happen from time to time! 73 de W0ZF On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:04 PM Adrian wrote: > Jim, Yes tough to find RTTY on the bands now. I have had to setup skeds > > via RTTY online groups/clubs to > > > > get a RTTY session. Also Gabe VK2LGS please PM (good on qrz re vk4tux > > email), for a RTTY contact if interested. > > > > > > Adrian Fewster > > > > > > On 19/8/20 8:44 am, Jim Brown wrote: > > > On 8/17/2020 6:25 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > >> RTTY is the easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a > > >> KX3 or KX2: > > > > > > That's the easy part. The hard part is finding someone to work, except > > > during RTTY contests, and contesters are not going to be happy with > > > RTTY sent that way. :) > > > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com > > From wb6gfs at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 23:31:24 2020 From: wb6gfs at gmail.com (Raymond DiGiglio) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:31:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Won't turn on Message-ID: When I apply power to my KX3, the LCD lights up but stays blank. The radio and all controls are unresponsive. For awhile it would do this and then respond within a minute and work normally but now it quit responding. Any idea which circuits I should check for failure. The manual doesn't explain the start up process in any detail to know where to start checking. Thanks, Ray From kk1w.jim at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 07:14:58 2020 From: kk1w.jim at gmail.com (KK1W) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 04:14:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <1597835698508-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Wayne, A small group of SOTA activators were on Burley Hill, W1/MR-002, September 30th, 2012 using the SOTA Jerks club call NE1SJ. Propagation was better in 2012 and toward the end of the activation I tuned around the 10 meter band with my KX3 looking for more contacts. Back then I was probably using a 41' end fed wire and it wasn't very high. I found some strong RTTY signals, apparently a contest but I don't know which one. Remembering the KX3 could do RTTY with the paddles I quickly figured out how to make it work (well, maybe not so 'quickly' but it didn't take too long) and managed to work Marco, IK0YVV. I put another contact in my SOTA log and Marco logged another contest Q. I think there were four of us on this activation (KX1X, N1FJ, K1MAZ and myself) and I'm sure everyone remembers working Italy on 10m RTTY, QRP that day. Anyway, that was my only SOTA RTTY experience with KX3 #1124. I've made hundreds of SOTA contacts since but most are CW. Still using my KX3, this year not many SOTA activations but it has had a workout in FD 2019 and 2020, 2A battery, QRP. '73... Jim/KK1W > I've made hundreds of Field Day and contest QSOs using RTTY on Elecraft > rigs, but I was wondering...has anyone tried RTTY on a SOTA outing? > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From wb4ooa at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 07:29:43 2020 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 07:29:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS DCHF-2000 COUPLER Message-ID: <000501d6761c$096871d0$1c395570$@gmail.com> DCHF-2000 coupler (only) for the W2 wattmeter for sale. Includes cable. In like new condition. $140 Shipped to CONUS. PayPal preferred but checks also ok. Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line 704-843-3681 WB4OOA at gmail.com From navydude1962 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 09:56:58 2020 From: navydude1962 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 06:56:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 2m Transverter Worth it? References: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1@yahoo.com> Finding it hard to justify one of these for my K3. Any reason to get one before I say no, especially given that I have dedicated VHF gear? Thanks, Ed NI6S From lmarion at mt.net Wed Aug 19 10:09:13 2020 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:09:13 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] 2m Transverter Worth it? In-Reply-To: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1@yahoo.com> References: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1.ref@yahoo.com> <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <148E99D86C604C47BE27CCC83CD03724@LeroyPC> Hi Ed, Probably the only option I did not do on the K3S was that. I do have it on my KX3 and the K2 drives a nice transverter if the sudden need arises. 73 AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Edward via Elecraft Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:56 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] 2m Transverter Worth it? Finding it hard to justify one of these for my K3. Any reason to get one before I say no, especially given that I have dedicated VHF gear? Thanks, Ed NI6S ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmarion at mt.net From navydude1962 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 10:04:45 2020 From: navydude1962 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 07:04:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 2m Transverter Worth it? In-Reply-To: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1@yahoo.com> References: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wanted to add that I am referring to the Elecraft internal unit (K144XV). Thanks. > On 19 Aug 2020, at 6:56 AM, Edward wrote: > > ?Finding it hard to justify one of these for my K3. Any reason to get one before I say no, especially given that I have dedicated VHF gear? > > Thanks, > Ed NI6S From arnett.drew at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 10:49:08 2020 From: arnett.drew at gmail.com (Drew Arnett) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:49:08 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 buzz if power up on transverter band Message-ID: Hi, Weird problem. Anyone else try this and do or don't see this? Just got my KX3 back from repair. This included an upgrade to the latest firmware. (Makes sense. Requirement for production test. I hadn't upgraded to the very latest, because I had no need for the latest improvements.) Set the radio back up for 10368 to 50 MHz transverter use on XVTR1 band. Now, if I power up the radio when it was shut down on the XVTR band, there is a crazy loud buzz on the audio output (and corresponding response of the S meter.) If I switch to any other non-XVTR band and then power up, no problem even if switching then to the XVTR band. FW is now 2.90/1.52I got the radio back just before the 10 GHz contest, so only made minimal changes to settings from the cleared state it came back in. Changes made: AFX mode off (was delay) ATU bypass (can't remember if it came back this way or not. XVTR is good 50 ohm load.) BAT CHG off (was not inst) BKLIGHT off (was on) MIC BIAS off (I think came back on; used dynamic mic during contest) MIC BTN Ptt (was up/down) TX DLY 10 (was 5. abundance of caution as 5 is more than enough for the 10 GHz rig I'm running) XV1 on XV1 RF 10368 XV1 IF 50 XV1 PWR 0.1 XV1 OFS (set in field) 1.20 XV1 ADR trn1 set the clock. :-) turned on the hidden in the menus CW-in-SSB feature I know I turned on or off a couple of front panel things as they left it. Don't remember. Stuff like vox, pre, nr or nb. Definitely adjusted mic gain and compression and keyer speed. :-) RX ISO changed to on during the contest, but problem occurs with it on or off What does the headphone jack output look like? Power up in bad state. Set volume control to 20. With no load other than 10X scope probe, the AC component is identical for left and right. Tip has about 0 V DC offset. Ring has about + 0.5 V DC offset. AC component looks like a the differential of a square wave. Peak to peak amplitude is 220 mV. (This follows volume control. Didn't check to see if DC offset follows volume control.) 12.2 millisecond repetition rate for positive and negative pulses. Negative pulse leads positive pulse by 2.2 ms, so 10 ms from positive pulse to negative. Very small AC ripple on that with a period of about 0.4 ms. I was very happy to find a sequence to avoid the problem (as described above.) To trouble shoot, I tried to rule out a number of things. Unplugged ALL cables from the KX3. That did not resolve. Tried external 12.4 V (battery on hand) and internal battery removed. Tried internal battery (charged) and nothing plugged in. No dice. Given that it's just back from repair, that sequencing gets it in a bad state, FW was upgraded to a new version, and audio path goes through FW, seems reasonable to ask if this is a known FW issue or if someone can try to reproduce this. Hoping to figure this out before the Sept VHF, the Sept 10 GHz contest weekend, and of course the HF contests coming up later this fall. :-) With my workaround, I was able to participate in the Aug 10 GHz weekend without interruption. I ran a W1GHZ XVTR barefoot (+5 dBm Pout) for best DX of 379 km. How much fun can you have with a KX3? Lots! :-) Thanks and best regards, Drew n7da From clark.macaulay at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 11:10:30 2020 From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (Clark Macaulay) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:10:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died In-Reply-To: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> References: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Paul. I had the same problem a few years back. Unless you can see a carbon trace somewhere, it's likely to be the diodes or the microprocessor. I replaced the microprocessor purchased from Elecraft and that fixed it. You may want to try snipping and replacing the diodes, first. I purchased two microprocessors just in case it ever happened again: my K2 is the QRP radio for the station with connection to logging software. The K3 was untouched. As I recall, the lightning strike took out the uVerse modem and a board in my PC. After that, I changed to using WiFi for the PC instead of a cable just to eliminate one path for future lightning strokes. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:13 PM Paul Huff wrote: > A couple of weeks ago we had a large thunderstorm roll through here with > unfortunate consequences. It took out our DVR cable box and the HDMI port > on the TV that it was attached to. The TV and its other HDMI port are > fine. An external USB hard drive hooked up to my computer (which was > turned off) was also impacted but after disconnecting it, rebooting, etc., > it is working fine. > > But it appears that I have also lost the KIO2 interface unit between my > Elecraft K2 and computer. The radio was disconnected from the antenna and > turned off and is fine. I didn?t even notice that there was a problem > until I realized that my computer log was not getting mode and frequency > information from the rig. (I don?t operate digital so logging is really > the only thing that I use the KIO2 for.) The USB ports on the computer are > all good and the logging software does ?think? that there is an input but > no communications is taking place. So that means that there is either a > problem with the KIO2 itself, or the serial-to-usb unit that it connects > through. > > Does anyone have suggestions on how I can go about diagnosing (and fixing) > this issue? > > Thanks in advance for any replies. > > 73, > > Paul - N8XMS > Paul - N8XMS > 100% QRP CW > Past President of the NAQCC > http://www.naqcc.info/ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to clark.macaulay at gmail.com -- 73, Clark, WU4B Little Pistol With Wires QRPARCI #10815 SKCC #3892 NAQCC #5055 CWOPS #1869 Collins Collectors #AC90-12432 Southeastern DX Club North Georgia QRP Club *"It is vain to do with more what can be done with less."* *Attributed to *William of Occam (1288 AD - 1348 AD) From hbjr at optilink.us Wed Aug 19 12:23:24 2020 From: hbjr at optilink.us (Hank) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:23:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 2m Transverter Worth it? In-Reply-To: References: <6D5757F9-7250-4168-AE11-6ECE3356B5D1@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have one in my K3s and use it a fair amount. ?I'm also a DXLabs software user, so having 2 meters integrated into one radio with HF - 6m works great. ?Besides working FM repeaters and Winlink packet, I run an external 200 watt amplifier for SSB. ?There again, the integration with DXLabs software and rotor control makes using a VHF beam really easy. It's internal to the K3s so no extra gear on the desk. ?It performs well enough for me. ?I do have the reference lock option installed in the K144XV and the high stability TXCO installed in the K3s. There are better transverters out there, but this one makes for quite convenient operation. Hank K4HYJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward via Elecraft (elecraft at mailman.qth.net) Date: 08/19/20 10:10 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2m Transverter Worth it? Wanted to add that I am referring to the Elecraft internal unit (K144XV). Thanks. > On 19 Aug 2020, at 6:56 AM, Edward wrote: > > ?Finding it hard to justify one of these for my K3. Any reason to get one before I say no, especially given that I have dedicated VHF gear? > > Thanks, > Ed NI6S ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hbjr at optilink.us From w2kj at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 19 12:30:46 2020 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:30:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Symbol T in KX3 display In-Reply-To: <37E62198-123C-4594-A05E-030A4F5339A1@bellsouth.net> References: <37E62198-123C-4594-A05E-030A4F5339A1@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: > > Howdy Gang. > > Been a while since I had a KX3 and just recently bought another one?I guess I just like them (grin). > > In changing menu choices for my style of CW operating I noticed the letter T in the bottom right of the display next to the B VFO icon. > > Believe this has something to do with digital operating but can?t remember. Waiting for the manual to arrive (omitted in shipment) so could some kind > Elecrafter out there clue me in? > > In normal CW mode I don?t believe the T should be in the display. > > Many thanks for jogging the memory of an old fool!! > > Stay healthy and take care. > > CU on the air, CW of course!! > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am From w2kj at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 19 12:46:40 2020 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:46:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Success! References: Message-ID: Howdy Gang. I fumbled a bit but finally got the decode turned off so the T that was in the display is now gone. No need for any assistance?.until the next time (grin). 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 13:55:14 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 10:55:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Eric's K4 Q&A Posted??? Message-ID: Hi gang, Has Eric's Q&A session from the virtual hamfest been posted anywhere? I can't find it on the virtual hamfest site or the Elecraft youtube channel. 73 Eric WD6DBM From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed Aug 19 14:06:44 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:06:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Symbol T in KX3 display In-Reply-To: References: <37E62198-123C-4594-A05E-030A4F5339A1@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: The 'T' indicates that text decode is turned on. Wayne N6KR > On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote: > > > >> >> Howdy Gang. >> >> Been a while since I had a KX3 and just recently bought another one?I guess I just like them (grin). >> >> In changing menu choices for my style of CW operating I noticed the letter T in the bottom right of the display next to the B VFO icon. >> >> Believe this has something to do with digital operating but can?t remember. Waiting for the manual to arrive (omitted in shipment) so could some kind >> Elecrafter out there clue me in? >> >> In normal CW mode I don?t believe the T should be in the display. >> >> Many thanks for jogging the memory of an old fool!! >> >> Stay healthy and take care. >> >> CU on the air, CW of course!! >> >> 73, Joe W2KJ >> I QRP, therefore I am > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed Aug 19 14:12:02 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:12:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA? In-Reply-To: <1597835698508-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <6F1D27C0-C875-4187-8615-8142C26F0F0B@elecraft.com> <1597835698508-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Great story, Jim. Thanks. 10 m is amazing when it's open. I once worked Italy from Massachusetts mobile, driving up 495, running about 250 mW CW to a mag-mount whip about 3' long. The rig was homebrew, about 4x2x1", powered by a 9 V lithium battery. I would say "doesn't get much better than that," but every year I then get surprised by things that *are* better. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 19, 2020, at 4:14 AM, KK1W wrote: > > Wayne, > > A small group of SOTA activators were on Burley Hill, W1/MR-002, September > 30th, 2012 using the SOTA Jerks club call NE1SJ. Propagation was better in > 2012 and toward the end of the activation I tuned around the 10 meter band > with my KX3 looking for more contacts. Back then I was probably using a 41' > end fed wire and it wasn't very high. > > I found some strong RTTY signals, apparently a contest but I don't know > which one. Remembering the KX3 could do RTTY with the paddles I quickly > figured out how to make it work (well, maybe not so 'quickly' but it didn't > take too long) and managed to work Marco, IK0YVV. I put another contact in > my SOTA log and Marco logged another contest Q. > > I think there were four of us on this activation (KX1X, N1FJ, K1MAZ and > myself) and I'm sure everyone remembers working Italy on 10m RTTY, QRP that > day. > > Anyway, that was my only SOTA RTTY experience with KX3 #1124. I've made > hundreds of SOTA contacts since but most are CW. > > Still using my KX3, this year not many SOTA activations but it has had a > workout in FD 2019 and 2020, 2A battery, QRP. > > '73... > Jim/KK1W > > > > > >> I've made hundreds of Field Day and contest QSOs using RTTY on Elecraft >> rigs, but I was wondering...has anyone tried RTTY on a SOTA outing? >> > >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From david at g4nrt.com Wed Aug 19 14:17:56 2020 From: david at g4nrt.com (David Bondy) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 18:17:56 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection Message-ID: I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever resolved. If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs? My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable. Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ?local? remote connection? Thanks. David G4NRT / Z21NRT From akengineering at live.com Wed Aug 19 14:28:17 2020 From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 18:28:17 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Update Message-ID: PX3 is sold. ___________________________________________________________________________ Prices on KX3 and switching power supply are OBO or trade. Elecraft part number decode of installed Options in KX3, accessories and original costs: Factory service, alignment and update - SN5159 on 2/14/2020 - $198.00 Enhanced heat sink - KX3HSMDKT - $39.95 2M module - KX3-2M-AT-F - $289.95 Dual roofing filter - KXFL3 - $169.95 Antenna tuner - KXAT3 - $229.95 NiMH charger, battery pack and RTC - KXBC3 - $89.95 Elecraft accessories that come with this KX3: KX3 microphone w/up-dn buttons - MH3 - $69.95 Precision Keyer paddles -KXPD3 - $169.95 AX1 dual band whip antenna - AX1 - $99.95 AXE1 40m extender - $49.99 AXB1 Whip BiPod - AXB1 - $31.95 (comes with spare plastic piece to attach to antenna) 13' ground wire for AX1 - E770064 - $6.95 33' ground wire for AX1+AXE1 - E770091 - $8.95 Accessory cable kit - KX3-PCKT - $26.95 XG50 signal source - $49.95 Side handles and plastic cover by SideKX - KX3EC - $69.00 Soft carrying case (from amazon) - $20.00 KX3 book by Cady - $45.00 total original costs of options and accessories: $ 1,468.00 Current Elecraft discounted bare bones KX3 cost: $1,195.95 You save: $563.95 From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Aug 19 16:25:57 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:25:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died In-Reply-To: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> References: <83AEBC4F-5B70-4653-B8B5-38F4CF791636@gmail.com> Message-ID: Paul, Get out the KIO2 manual and do the DC voltage checks as your 1st response. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/18/2020 8:11 PM, Paul Huff wrote: > A couple of weeks ago we had a large thunderstorm roll through here with unfortunate consequences. It took out our DVR cable box and the HDMI port on the TV that it was attached to. The TV and its other HDMI port are fine. An external USB hard drive hooked up to my computer (which was turned off) was also impacted but after disconnecting it, rebooting, etc., it is working fine. > > But it appears that I have also lost the KIO2 interface unit between my Elecraft K2 and computer. The radio was disconnected from the antenna and turned off and is fine. I didn?t even notice that there was a problem until I realized that my computer log was not getting mode and frequency information from the rig. (I don?t operate digital so logging is really the only thing that I use the KIO2 for.) The USB ports on the computer are all good and the logging software does ?think? that there is an input but no communications is taking place. So that means that there is either a problem with the KIO2 itself, or the serial-to-usb unit that it connects through. > > Does anyone have suggestions on how I can go about diagnosing (and fixing) this issue? > From akengineering at live.com Wed Aug 19 16:31:20 2020 From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:31:20 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: UPDATE PX3 is sold. ___________________________________________________________________________ Prices on KX3 and switching power supply are OBO or trade. Elecraft part number decode of installed Options in KX3, accessories and original costs: Factory service, alignment and update - SN5159 on 2/14/2020 - $198.00 Enhanced heat sink - KX3HSMDKT - $39.95 2M module - KX3-2M-AT-F - $289.95 Dual roofing filter - KXFL3 - $169.95 Antenna tuner - KXAT3 - $229.95 NiMH charger, battery pack and RTC - KXBC3 - $89.95 Elecraft accessories that come with this KX3: KX3 microphone w/up-dn buttons - MH3 - $69.95 Precision Keyer paddles -KXPD3 - $169.95 AX1 dual band whip antenna - AX1 - $99.95 AXE1 40m extender - $49.99 AXB1 Whip BiPod - AXB1 - $31.95 (comes with spare plastic piece to attach to antenna) 13' ground wire for AX1 - E770064 - $6.95 33' ground wire for AX1+AXE1 - E770091 - $8.95 Accessory cable kit - KX3-PCKT - $26.95 XG50 signal source - $49.95 Side handles and plastic cover by SideKX - KX3EC - $69.00 Soft carrying case (from amazon) - $20.00 KX3 book by Cady - $45.00 total original costs of options and accessories: $ 1,468.00 Current Elecraft discounted bare bones KX3 cost: $1,195.95 You save: $563.95 ________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Aubrey Mason Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. $2,100.00 KX3 was recently at the factory for upgrades (15W output, install upgrades, 2M module, factory alignment) Has all available options installed; KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, KX3-2M, KX3HSMDKT Includes: MH3, KXPD3, XG50, AX1+AXE1+AXB1, KX3-PCKT, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, soft carrying case, factory manual and KX3 book by Cady $450 PX3 has two sets of PX3-KX3 cables to connect it to the KX3, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, factory manual $100 New Powerwerx 30A switching power supply (lists on Elecraft website for $120 before tax and shipping) Located in San Antonio Texas 73's ! Aubrey Mason WA6DMI 210-602-4291 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to akengineering at live.com From gregory.beat at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 17:01:19 2020 From: gregory.beat at gmail.com (Greg Beat) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:01:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died Message-ID: Paul - Wayne has made a generous offer for swapping the KIO2 board. == For component level techs (reading or following along) Elecraft KIO2 Manual (Parts List on second page) https://ftp.elecraft.com/K2/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO2%20man%20rev%20C%20.pdf ESD and lightning events likely damaged the 1N4148 diodes (4 on the KIO2) OR the Maxim RS-232 bridge chip. Newer Maxim i/O chips now have 15 kV ESD protection to minimize this issue. (Product managers finally listened). Maxim MAX1406CPE (RS-232/TTL bridge chip), $3.51 each https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/maxim-integrated/MAX1406CPE/MAX1406CPE-ND/1130155 greg w9gb == Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:11:35 -0400 From: Paul Huff To: Elecraft Email List Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died A couple of weeks ago we had a large thunderstorm roll through here with unfortunate consequences. It took out our DVR cable box and the HDMI port on the TV that it was attached to. The TV and its other HDMI port are fine. An external USB hard drive hooked up to my computer (which was turned off) was also impacted but after disconnecting it, rebooting, etc., it is working fine. But it appears that I have also lost the KIO2 interface unit between my Elecraft K2 and computer. The radio was disconnected from the antenna and turned off and is fine. I didn?t even notice that there was a problem until I realized that my computer log was not getting mode and frequency information from the rig. (I don?t operate digital so logging is really the only thing that I use the KIO2 for.) The USB ports on the computer are all good and the logging software does ?think? that there is an input but no communications is taking place. So that means that there is either a problem with the KIO2 itself, or the serial-to-usb unit that it connects through. Does anyone have suggestions on how I can go about diagnosing (and fixing) this issue? Thanks in advance for any replies. 73, Paul - N8XMS From bbaines at mac.com Wed Aug 19 17:07:58 2020 From: bbaines at mac.com (Barry Baines) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:07:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64CA097A-796E-492E-A9BE-4887888BFA7F@mac.com> David: > On Aug 19, 2020, at 2:17 PM, David Bondy wrote: > > I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever resolved. > > If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs? The issue is how to get all of the connections from the K3/0-Mini to the K3. The ?Elecraft K3-Remote Owner?s Manual? (Revision D, April 3, 2014) discusses two methods of installing the K3-Remote variants: 1. Via the RemoteRig 1258MKII approach that connects to your personal K3 at the ham shack and a second RemoteRig to the K3-Remote. This is what I?ve done. 2. Using the K3-Remote via a PC through a USB connection. This is meant to provide access to on-line remote Ham rig services such as ?Remote Hams?. I have no idea what interface(s) are installed at these sites to their K3s. > > My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable. I don?t know whether the two Remote Rigs would work directly connected through a reverse cable, you?d probably have to connect both to a LAN where both devices would be assigned a local IP address (either static or dynamic). FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA) > > Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ?local? remote connection? > > Thanks. David G4NRT / Z21NRT > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com From paul142857 at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 17:07:20 2020 From: paul142857 at gmail.com (Paul Huff) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:07:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <939FC1B0-177D-448A-B5F5-D7751F176990@gmail.com> Yes, he certainly has! And I have already thanked him for the offer. I can?t think of any other company head who would do something like that! I?m going to take a look at those diodes. That would be a relatively easy and inexpensive fix. Swapping out the chip is probably more than I want to tackle. Thanks and 73, Paul - N8XMS 100% QRP CW Past President of the NAQCC http://www.naqcc.info/ > On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Greg Beat wrote: > > Paul - > > Wayne has made a generous offer for swapping the KIO2 board. > == > For component level techs (reading or following along) > Elecraft KIO2 Manual (Parts List on second page) > https://ftp.elecraft.com/K2/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO2%20man%20rev%20C%20.pdf > > ESD and lightning events likely damaged the 1N4148 diodes (4 on the KIO2) OR > the Maxim RS-232 bridge chip. Newer Maxim i/O chips now have 15 kV ESD protection to minimize this issue. (Product managers finally listened). > > Maxim MAX1406CPE (RS-232/TTL bridge chip), $3.51 each > https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/maxim-integrated/MAX1406CPE/MAX1406CPE-ND/1130155 > > greg > w9gb > == > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:11:35 -0400 > From: Paul Huff > > To: Elecraft Email List > > Subject: [Elecraft] The KIO2 unit in my K2 has died > > A couple of weeks ago we had a large thunderstorm roll through here with unfortunate consequences. It took out our DVR cable box and the HDMI port on the TV that it was attached to. The TV and its other HDMI port are fine. An external USB hard drive hooked up to my computer (which was turned off) was also impacted but after disconnecting it, rebooting, etc., it is working fine. > > But it appears that I have also lost the KIO2 interface unit between my Elecraft K2 and computer. The radio was disconnected from the antenna and turned off and is fine. I didn?t even notice that there was a problem until I realized that my computer log was not getting mode and frequency information from the rig. (I don?t operate digital so logging is really the only thing that I use the KIO2 for.) The USB ports on the computer are all good and the logging software does ?think? that there is an input but no communications is taking place. So that means that there is either a problem with the KIO2 itself, or the serial-to-usb unit that it connects through. > > Does anyone have suggestions on how I can go about diagnosing (and fixing) this issue? > > Thanks in advance for any replies. > > 73, > > Paul - N8XMS From radioprincegeorge at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 18:13:36 2020 From: radioprincegeorge at gmail.com (Don Pomplun) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 18:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] test Message-ID: Don't respond? I'll know if it went thru. From dana.roode at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 18:22:41 2020 From: dana.roode at gmail.com (Dana Roode K6NR) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 15:22:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Sidetone and Line Out? Message-ID: I typically use a telephone connection for receive audio from my remote K3 as its one less dependence on the crummy internet I have. That broke today so I'm using audio over the Internet using DF3CB REMAUD program. My CW sidetone is loud no matter what I set "MON" too, and I've even experimented with the "LINOUT" configuration; setting it to 0 removes my receive audio but not the sidetone. It seems sidetone is coming from LINOUT and I've not found a way to reduce its amplitude. Or I am not thinking about this right... Any suggestions? Dana From pe1hzg at xs4all.nl Wed Aug 19 18:42:31 2020 From: pe1hzg at xs4all.nl (Geert Jan de Groot) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:42:31 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K4 mod administration Message-ID: <46bb8c62-2d6a-9842-3e7e-c961b0e00d72@xs4all.nl> Hi, As many folks are shedding a K3, it is currently possible to pick one up for not too high cost. One issue though is that there have been a fair number of modifications on K3 - in itself not a problem as they made the machine better. But buying a machine now keeps you wondering what modifications have been done - if it means adding a board it is obvious, but "change restore XX to YY" much less so. So, I wonder, for K4, would Elecraft *number* their modifications as they come out, and provide a sticker inside: "this K4 mas mod 4, 6, 7 applied" would make things easier I think? Geert Jan From hbjr at optilink.us Wed Aug 19 20:06:47 2020 From: hbjr at optilink.us (HB) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:06:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Need a PX3 mini wireless keyboard Message-ID: <202008200006.07K06mSH004503-07K06mSJ004503@mailfilter.optilink.us> I recently bought a PX3 to use with my KX3.? I have a mini wireless keyboard that works with it - an old Gearhead Smooth Touch.? However, it is on its last leg - some of the keys don't work really well.? It isn't sold anymore. I need a recommendation for a small, wireless keyboard that will work with the PX3.? The list is gone from Elecraft's site.? I searched the archives and all of the mini wireless keyboards mentioned that work, I can't find on Amazon or ebay.? Most of the threads are over a year old.? Any suggestions? Hank K4HYJ From dave at nk7z.net Wed Aug 19 20:13:31 2020 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:13:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K4 mod administration In-Reply-To: <46bb8c62-2d6a-9842-3e7e-c961b0e00d72@xs4all.nl> References: <46bb8c62-2d6a-9842-3e7e-c961b0e00d72@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <6c26bf7d-60c0-2c5c-74d1-5daf78292477@nk7z.net> That is a really good idea... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 8/19/20 3:42 PM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote: > Hi, > > As many folks are shedding a K3, it is currently possible to pick one up > for not too high cost. > > One issue though is that there have been a fair number of modifications > on K3 - in itself not a problem as they made the machine better. But > buying a machine now keeps you wondering what modifications have been > done - if it means adding a board it is obvious, but "change restore XX > to YY" much less so. > > So, I wonder, for K4, would Elecraft *number* their modifications as > they come out, and provide a sticker inside: "this K4 mas mod 4, 6, 7 > applied" would make things easier I think? > > Geert Jan > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net From ghyoungman at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 20:13:42 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:13:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Need a PX3 mini wireless keyboard In-Reply-To: <202008200006.07K06mSH004503-07K06mSJ004503@mailfilter.optilink.us> References: <202008200006.07K06mSH004503-07K06mSJ004503@mailfilter.optilink.us> Message-ID: <5EAD8BF3-06EB-451A-AC05-8BD092069FF9@gmail.com> I just bought a Teknet wireless keyboard from QRPWorks, that works fine on the PX3. It replaced an older Anker, that worked fine with the PX3, but did not work with the QRPWorks Sidecar Extreme ... Grant NQ5T > On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:06 PM, HB via Elecraft wrote: > > I recently bought a PX3 to use with my KX3. I have a mini wireless keyboard that works with it - an old Gearhead Smooth Touch. However, it is on its last leg - some of the keys don't work really well. It isn't sold anymore. > > I need a recommendation for a small, wireless keyboard that will work with the PX3. The list is gone from Elecraft's site. I searched the archives and all of the mini wireless keyboards mentioned that work, I can't find on Amazon or ebay. Most of the threads are over a year old. > > Any suggestions? > > Hank > K4HYJ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com From w4grj at satterfield.org Wed Aug 19 20:18:07 2020 From: w4grj at satterfield.org (Jack W4GRJ) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:18:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS KPA500 Message-ID: <6B2F211D-CEF5-4BA3-A39B-E82EC4084C89@satterfield.org> For sale KPA500 excellent condition serial 092. I am the second owner no smoking environment wired for 125v includes manual and aux cable 1550 shipped email to w4grj at arrl.net thought i would list here before it goes on QRZ.COM Jack W4GRJ From rich at wc3t.us Wed Aug 19 20:27:27 2020 From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:27:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Need a PX3 mini wireless keyboard In-Reply-To: <5EAD8BF3-06EB-451A-AC05-8BD092069FF9@gmail.com> References: <202008200006.07K06mSH004503-07K06mSJ004503@mailfilter.optilink.us> <5EAD8BF3-06EB-451A-AC05-8BD092069FF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Second that. I bought this one. Wireless Keyboard, TeckNet Ultra... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M75WPKO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 20:13 Grant Youngman wrote: > I just bought a Teknet wireless keyboard from QRPWorks, that works fine on > the PX3. It replaced an older Anker, that worked fine with the PX3, but did > not work with the QRPWorks Sidecar Extreme ... > > > > Grant NQ5T > > > > > On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:06 PM, HB via Elecraft > wrote: > > > > > > I recently bought a PX3 to use with my KX3. I have a mini wireless > keyboard that works with it - an old Gearhead Smooth Touch. However, it is > on its last leg - some of the keys don't work really well. It isn't sold > anymore. > > > > > > I need a recommendation for a small, wireless keyboard that will work > with the PX3. The list is gone from Elecraft's site. I searched the > archives and all of the mini wireless keyboards mentioned that work, I > can't find on Amazon or ebay. Most of the threads are over a year old. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Hank > > > K4HYJ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us > > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* From ghyoungman at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 20:43:30 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:43:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Need a PX3 mini wireless keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <202008200006.07K06mSH004503-07K06mSJ004503@mailfilter.optilink.us> <5EAD8BF3-06EB-451A-AC05-8BD092069FF9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, that?s it. I misspelled TechNet .. Oddly, it?s 100% identical to the Anker I was using previously. If it weren?t for the brand name on the keyboard and the product sticker on the back, you can?t tell them apart. Except that there must be some difference in the character encoding that prevented the older Anker from working properly with the SideKar. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:27 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: > > Second that. I bought this one. Wireless Keyboard, TeckNet Ultra... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M75WPKO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 20:13 Grant Youngman wrote: > I just bought a Teknet wireless keyboard from QRPWorks, that works fine on the PX3. It replaced an older Anker, that worked fine with the PX3, but did not work with the QRPWorks Sidecar Extreme ... > > > > Grant NQ5T > > > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Wed Aug 19 21:24:23 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 18:24:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on K4 mod administration In-Reply-To: <6c26bf7d-60c0-2c5c-74d1-5daf78292477@nk7z.net> References: <46bb8c62-2d6a-9842-3e7e-c961b0e00d72@xs4all.nl> <6c26bf7d-60c0-2c5c-74d1-5daf78292477@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <39fe3efc-f7d3-da1d-200d-1ad8151f40be@triconet.org> I guess Elecraft will be adding a Configuration Management Department. Wes? N7WS On 8/19/2020 5:13 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > That is a really good idea... > > 73, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > https://www.nk7z.net > ARRL Volunteer Examiner > ARRL Technical Specialist > ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources > > On 8/19/20 3:42 PM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote: >> Hi, >> >> As many folks are shedding a K3, it is currently possible to pick one up for >> not too high cost. >> >> One issue though is that there have been a fair number of modifications on K3 >> - in itself not a problem as they made the machine better. But buying a >> machine now keeps you wondering what modifications have been done - if it >> means adding a board it is obvious, but "change restore XX to YY" much less so. >> >> So, I wonder, for K4, would Elecraft *number* their modifications as they >> come out, and provide a sticker inside: "this K4 mas mod 4, 6, 7 applied" >> would make things easier I think? >> >> Geert Jan From pa0pje at xs4all.nl Thu Aug 20 06:37:30 2020 From: pa0pje at xs4all.nl (Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 12:37:30 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Symbol T in KX3 display In-Reply-To: References: <37E62198-123C-4594-A05E-030A4F5339A1@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <9db17f80-4eac-1336-7dc3-28fc92c83969@xs4all.nl> Joe, you can download owner's manual/errata/accessory/tips etc here: https://elecraft.com/pages/kx3-high-perofrmance-portable-transceiver-manuals Page 8 of the manual describes all the display items. 72/73, Peter On 2020-08-19 at 20:06 Wayne Burdick wrote: > The 'T' indicates that text decode is turned on. > > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> Howdy Gang. >>> >>> Been a while since I had a KX3 and just recently bought another one?I guess I just like them (grin). >>> >>> In changing menu choices for my style of CW operating I noticed the letter T in the bottom right of the display next to the B VFO icon. >>> >>> Believe this has something to do with digital operating but can?t remember. Waiting for the manual to arrive (omitted in shipment) so could some kind >>> Elecrafter out there clue me in? >>> >>> In normal CW mode I don?t believe the T should be in the display. >>> >>> Many thanks for jogging the memory of an old fool!! >>> >>> Stay healthy and take care. >>> >>> CU on the air, CW of course!! >>> >>> 73, Joe W2KJ >>> I QRP, therefore I am >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pa0pje at xs4all.nl > From jack at satterfield.org Thu Aug 20 09:47:54 2020 From: jack at satterfield.org (jack satterfield) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 09:47:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 SOLD Message-ID: <004b01d676f8$8422abc0$8c680340$@org> KPA500 is sold pending receipt funds Tnx, Jack W4GRJ From n6tv at arrl.net Thu Aug 20 19:35:24 2020 From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:35:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Sidetone and Line Out? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's a special setting only documented in the K3 Firmware Release Notes as follows: * TX LINE OUT (MONITOR) LEVEL NOW ADJUSTABLE: In CONFIG:LIN OUT menu entry, tap '2' (REV switch) to set the "T=" level (TX monitor). Tap '2' again to return to the RX LINE OUT setting. So if you go to CONFIG:LIN OUT, then tap [2], you can change the sidetone (monitor) level. 73, Bob, N6TV On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:24 PM Dana Roode K6NR wrote: > I typically use a telephone connection for receive audio from my remote K3 > as its one less dependence on the crummy internet I have. That broke today > so I'm using audio over the Internet using DF3CB REMAUD program. My CW > sidetone is loud no matter what I set "MON" too, and I've even experimented > with the "LINOUT" configuration; setting it to 0 removes my receive > audio but not the sidetone. > > It seems sidetone is coming from LINOUT and I've not found a way to reduce > its amplitude. Or I am not thinking about this right... > > Any suggestions? > > Dana > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6tv at arrl.net > From ab2tc at arrl.net Thu Aug 20 21:07:29 2020 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:07:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights. Message-ID: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hello all, https://www.edn.com/how-cops-are-finding-grow-ops-with-am-radios/ The above is a link to an article in the EDN magazine (a technical journal primarily aimed at EEs). The article is more than five years old, but maybe it is only recently this type of interference has started to show up in upstate New York. I have one of these noise sources somewhere in my neighborhood (it?s not that easy to pinpoint due to the low frequency). I know this is OT and maybe somewhat controversial, but this type of strong interference is of great concern to the amateur radio community. I am not after anybody in my neighborhood getting arrested, but I very much want to see the interference stop. Even if the operation is legal, the emission is definitely way outside FCC part 15 limits. Quote from the article: ?..conducted emission data clearly shows peaks as high as 100+ dBuV (50 dB over the limit) in the range 6 to 8 MHz, with lower peaks at 14, 18, and 21 MHz.? My interference is primarily in the 7MHz band. 14 MHz is virtually free of it. See here for a screenshot: http://www.ab2tc.com/growlights.png There are three peaks, approximately 49 to 50kHz apart. The center one is centered under the cross hair cursor. As you can see, the band is starting to come to life at about 2:30 in the afternoon. The interference is on 24/7 as far as I can tell. Does anybody have any experiences like this and/or any suggestions what to do? If you want to keep this confidential, E-mail me privately. My E-mail address is OK on qrz.com. AB2TC ? Knut PS. I have previously reported power line noise to the electrical company and have had positive responses (fixes) from them. I suspect that this kind of interference is not easily detectable on their UHF based sniffers; besides I am not sure if conducted interference from residences lies under their jurisdiction (there are only residences here for many blocks). -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From mlmurrah at mac.com Thu Aug 20 21:25:07 2020 From: mlmurrah at mac.com (Macka Murrah) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:25:07 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Drive Setting Issues on K3S Message-ID: <052C33E5-6E24-44BD-913B-1362F24DE65C@mac.com> I am trying to get my K3S set up for Winlink using the Vara digital modem for proper ALC operation. When I set the drive using either the Windows sound card slider, the Vara modem slider, or the Mic drive, I get no bars as I turn the drive up from zero and suddenly I get 6 bars with the 6th and sometimes 5th bars flashing,. I do not see a progression from 1-2-3 bars, etc. until I reach the desired 4 bars with the 5th bar flickering. I have a similar issue setting the drive for FT8. Why can?t I get a smooth progression from no bars tp 4-5 as I incense the drive? I seem to remember no having this issue some time ago. From jasimmons at pinewooddata.com Thu Aug 20 21:30:10 2020 From: jasimmons at pinewooddata.com (John Simmons) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:30:10 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Drive Setting Issues on K3S In-Reply-To: <052C33E5-6E24-44BD-913B-1362F24DE65C@mac.com> References: <052C33E5-6E24-44BD-913B-1362F24DE65C@mac.com> Message-ID: <1655be98-9296-767f-e11c-30a71469b67a@pinewooddata.com> Is your radio set to DATA-A? -- 73, -de John NI0K https://www.qrz.com/db/NI0K Macka Murrah via Elecraft wrote on 8/20/2020 8:25 PM: > I am trying to get my K3S set up for Winlink using the Vara digital modem for proper ALC operation. When I set the drive using either the Windows sound card slider, the Vara modem slider, or the Mic drive, I get no bars as I turn the drive up from zero and suddenly I get 6 bars with the 6th and sometimes 5th bars flashing,. I do not see a progression from 1-2-3 bars, etc. until I reach the desired 4 bars with the 5th bar flickering. I have a similar issue setting the drive for FT8. Why can?t I get a smooth progression from no bars tp 4-5 as I incense the drive? I seem to remember no having this issue some time ago. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jasimmons at pinewooddata.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Thu Aug 20 22:11:30 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 22:11:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Drive Setting Issues on K3S In-Reply-To: <052C33E5-6E24-44BD-913B-1362F24DE65C@mac.com> References: <052C33E5-6E24-44BD-913B-1362F24DE65C@mac.com> Message-ID: <40017CA1-3650-4F5A-A58A-35C77EE35841@widomaker.com> Reduce the level of the USB CODEK in Windows to about 30%. This will give you finer control with the Lin In control. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 20, 2020, at 9:27 PM, Macka Murrah via Elecraft wrote: > > ?I am trying to get my K3S set up for Winlink using the Vara digital modem for proper ALC operation. When I set the drive using either the Windows sound card slider, the Vara modem slider, or the Mic drive, I get no bars as I turn the drive up from zero and suddenly I get 6 bars with the 6th and sometimes 5th bars flashing,. I do not see a progression from 1-2-3 bars, etc. until I reach the desired 4 bars with the 5th bar flickering. I have a similar issue setting the drive for FT8. Why can?t I get a smooth progression from no bars tp 4-5 as I incense the drive? I seem to remember no having this issue some time ago. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From hms4 at lehigh.edu Fri Aug 21 08:09:22 2020 From: hms4 at lehigh.edu (Howard Sherer) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:09:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT 500 for sale Message-ID: I have a like new KAT 500 for sale. $500. plus shipping from 18104 Howard AE3T From mikekopacki at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 08:45:42 2020 From: mikekopacki at gmail.com (NJMike) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 05:45:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 memory question Message-ID: <1598013942195-0.post@n2.nabble.com> The KAT100 manual says that the tuner?s settings are stored in EEPROM. My question is - how many memories are stored? Is it just one for each band? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Fri Aug 21 08:47:04 2020 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (CUTTER DAVID) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 13:47:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Elecraft] KAT 500 for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <500585109.102678.1598014024431@mail2.virginmedia.com> I would like that, would you sell outside USA? David G3UNA > On 21 August 2020 at 13:09 Howard Sherer wrote: > > > I have a like new KAT 500 for sale. $500. plus shipping from 18104 > > Howard AE3T > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com mailto:d.cutter at ntlworld.com > From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 09:36:54 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 16:36:54 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits Message-ID: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> Does anyone have experience with Rex Harper of Tuna Can Kits? He sells precut PCB pieces for Manhattan-style construction. Please respond off-list. Thanks! -- 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ From w7hsg at comcast.net Fri Aug 21 10:24:58 2020 From: w7hsg at comcast.net (RALPH TURK) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights. In-Reply-To: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <876300617.15190.1598019898481@connect.xfinity.com> Hi I had a similar situation here in Tucson AZ My spectrum analyzer,a Tek 492 showed groups of carrier like indications 10-20 db above the noise floor. First think I thought "Grow Lights" I was told that the osculator in a grow light is about 2.3 Mhz. The interference looked like it was every 2.3Mhz up the band. Levels were all over the place. Called the local Power Co and after lots of pleading they finally sent a tech to check it out. He connected up to my dipole antenna and looked at the pattern and concluded it was a ground connection proble. Got a crew out the next week and traced it to a pole out about 2000ft from me. The problem was radiating from the HV line for about 2 miles. Fixed the ground and problem solved. I had traced to one of three poles using a portable radio tuned the my main problem freq of about 5.2 Mhz and was able to hear the problem. The main problem was a loose ground clamp up on the pole. The power company also used an acoustic parabolic mike which pin-pointed the exact connector. New connector problem solved Ralph, W7HSG/AFA9RT > On 08/20/2020 7:07 PM ab2tc wrote: > > > Hello all, > > https://www.edn.com/how-cops-are-finding-grow-ops-with-am-radios/ > > The above is a link to an article in the EDN magazine (a technical journal > primarily aimed at EEs). The article is more than five years old, but maybe > it is only recently this type of interference has started to show up in > upstate New York. I have one of these noise sources somewhere in my > neighborhood (it?s not that easy to pinpoint due to the low frequency). I > know this is OT and maybe somewhat controversial, but this type of strong > interference is of great concern to the amateur radio community. I am not > after anybody in my neighborhood getting arrested, but I very much want to > see the interference stop. Even if the operation is legal, the emission is > definitely way outside FCC part 15 limits. Quote from the article: > > ?..conducted emission data clearly shows peaks as high as 100+ dBuV (50 dB > over the limit) in the range 6 to 8 MHz, with lower peaks at 14, 18, and 21 > MHz.? > > My interference is primarily in the 7MHz band. 14 MHz is virtually free of > it. See here for a screenshot: > > http://www.ab2tc.com/growlights.png > > There are three peaks, approximately 49 to 50kHz apart. The center one is > centered under the cross hair cursor. As you can see, the band is starting > to come to life at about 2:30 in the afternoon. The interference is on 24/7 > as far as I can tell. > > Does anybody have any experiences like this and/or any suggestions what to > do? If you want to keep this confidential, E-mail me privately. My E-mail > address is OK on qrz.com. > > AB2TC ? Knut > > PS. I have previously reported power line noise to the electrical company > and have had positive responses (fixes) from them. I suspect that this kind > of interference is not easily detectable on their UHF based sniffers; > besides I am not sure if conducted interference from residences lies under > their jurisdiction (there are only residences here for many blocks). > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w7hsg at comcast.net From w5sum at comcast.net Fri Aug 21 10:32:31 2020 From: w5sum at comcast.net (w5sum at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:32:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT 500 for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A1AB44E5C3A483C91F91A8D46A02775@MININTMC1HLDC> I'll take it. Let me know Ronnie W5SUM -----Original Message----- From: Howard Sherer Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:09 AM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] KAT 500 for sale I have a like new KAT 500 for sale. $500. plus shipping from 18104 Howard AE3T ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w5sum at comcast.net From nv4c.ian at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 11:02:13 2020 From: nv4c.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:02:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits In-Reply-To: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> References: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Victor, I had some dealings with him a few years back, when my club used one of his Tuna Can kits for a club kit build day. He was very generous and easy to work with. He even donated some extra items to use as give-aways for club members. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 9:38 AM Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Does anyone have experience with Rex Harper of Tuna Can Kits? He sells > precut PCB pieces for Manhattan-style construction. > > Please respond off-list. > Thanks! > -- > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nv4c.ian at gmail.com > From arnett.drew at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 11:22:41 2020 From: arnett.drew at gmail.com (Drew Arnett) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 15:22:41 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 buzz if power up on transverter band In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oscilloscope "screenshot" of the offending waveform: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-g9Met098lhncAcMtAAOvxWFDjf0NU_w?usp=sharing Can anyone try to reproduce this to rule out or confirm my suspicion it might be caused by firmware bug? You can imagine how fast I knocked my headphones off! :-O :-) Thanks and best regards, Drew n7da On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:49 PM Drew Arnett wrote: > > Hi, > > Weird problem. Anyone else try this and do or don't see this? > > Just got my KX3 back from repair. This included an upgrade to the > latest firmware. (Makes sense. Requirement for production test. I > hadn't upgraded to the very latest, because I had no need for the > latest improvements.) > > Set the radio back up for 10368 to 50 MHz transverter use on XVTR1 > band. Now, if I power up the radio when it was shut down on the XVTR > band, there is a crazy loud buzz on the audio output (and > corresponding response of the S meter.) If I switch to any other > non-XVTR band and then power up, no problem even if switching then to > the XVTR band. > > FW is now 2.90/1.52I got the radio back just before the 10 GHz > contest, so only made minimal changes to settings from the cleared > state it came back in. Changes made: > AFX mode off (was delay) > ATU bypass (can't remember if it came back this way or not. XVTR is > good 50 ohm load.) > BAT CHG off (was not inst) > BKLIGHT off (was on) > MIC BIAS off (I think came back on; used dynamic mic during contest) > MIC BTN Ptt (was up/down) > TX DLY 10 (was 5. abundance of caution as 5 is more than enough for > the 10 GHz rig I'm running) > XV1 on > XV1 RF 10368 > XV1 IF 50 > XV1 PWR 0.1 > XV1 OFS (set in field) 1.20 > XV1 ADR trn1 > set the clock. :-) > turned on the hidden in the menus CW-in-SSB feature > > I know I turned on or off a couple of front panel things as they left > it. Don't remember. Stuff like vox, pre, nr or nb. Definitely > adjusted mic gain and compression and keyer speed. :-) > > RX ISO changed to on during the contest, but problem occurs with it on or off > > What does the headphone jack output look like? Power up in bad state. > Set volume control to 20. With no load other than 10X scope probe, > the AC component is identical for left and right. Tip has about 0 V > DC offset. Ring has about + 0.5 V DC offset. AC component looks like > a the differential of a square wave. Peak to peak amplitude is 220 > mV. (This follows volume control. Didn't check to see if DC offset > follows volume control.) 12.2 millisecond repetition rate for > positive and negative pulses. Negative pulse leads positive pulse by > 2.2 ms, so 10 ms from positive pulse to negative. Very small AC > ripple on that with a period of about 0.4 ms. > > I was very happy to find a sequence to avoid the problem (as described > above.) To trouble shoot, I tried to rule out a number of things. > Unplugged ALL cables from the KX3. That did not resolve. Tried > external 12.4 V (battery on hand) and internal battery removed. Tried > internal battery (charged) and nothing plugged in. No dice. > > Given that it's just back from repair, that sequencing gets it in a > bad state, FW was upgraded to a new version, and audio path goes > through FW, seems reasonable to ask if this is a known FW issue or if > someone can try to reproduce this. > > Hoping to figure this out before the Sept VHF, the Sept 10 GHz contest > weekend, and of course the HF contests coming up later this fall. :-) > With my workaround, I was able to participate in the Aug 10 GHz > weekend without interruption. I ran a W1GHZ XVTR barefoot (+5 dBm > Pout) for best DX of 379 km. How much fun can you have with a KX3? > Lots! :-) > > Thanks and best regards, > > Drew > n7da From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri Aug 21 11:30:31 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:30:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 memory question In-Reply-To: <1598013942195-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1598013942195-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <10DE0D73-31FA-47BF-9727-A5189A62254E@widomaker.com> Read the manual. There is a list of the frequency segments that can be stored in the memory. It?s near the back of the manual. Most bands are 20KHz segments, so many for each band. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:47 AM, NJMike wrote: > > ?The KAT100 manual says that the tuner?s settings are stored in EEPROM. > > My question is - how many memories are stored? Is it just one for each > band? > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From mikekopacki at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 11:48:15 2020 From: mikekopacki at gmail.com (Mike Kopacki) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:48:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 memory question In-Reply-To: <10DE0D73-31FA-47BF-9727-A5189A62254E@widomaker.com> References: <10DE0D73-31FA-47BF-9727-A5189A62254E@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Guess I missed that! Checking now. Hmm. Bill, I just paged thru the entire manual and there is no mention of what you?re saying. Is it possible you have a newer manual? This one is Revision C, March 12, 2003. Thanks, Mike NJ2OM > On Aug 21, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Nr4c wrote: > > ?Read the manual. There is a list of the frequency segments that can be stored in the memory. It?s near the back of the manual. Most bands are 20KHz segments, so many for each band. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:47 AM, NJMike wrote: >> >> ?The KAT100 manual says that the tuner?s settings are stored in EEPROM. >> >> My question is - how many memories are stored? Is it just one for each >> band? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike NJ2OM >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From hms4 at lehigh.edu Fri Aug 21 11:51:40 2020 From: hms4 at lehigh.edu (Howard Sherer) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:51:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT 500 Message-ID: The KAT 500 has been sold Thanks for all the interest. Howard From dana.roode at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 12:56:52 2020 From: dana.roode at gmail.com (Dana Roode K6NR) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:56:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Sidetone and Line Out? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow thanks Bob. I thought I was going nuts and wasn't sure where the sidetone was coming from. Seems odd that the normal mon control doesn't affect this but I'm sure Elecraft had it's reasons. Thanks again, Dana On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:35 PM Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > There's a special setting only documented in the K3 Firmware Release Notes > as follows: > > * TX LINE OUT (MONITOR) LEVEL NOW ADJUSTABLE: In CONFIG:LIN OUT menu > entry, tap '2' (REV switch) to set the "T=" level (TX monitor). Tap '2' > again to return to the RX LINE OUT setting. > > So if you go to CONFIG:LIN OUT, then tap [2], you can change the sidetone > (monitor) level. > > 73, > Bob, N6TV > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:24 PM Dana Roode K6NR > wrote: > >> I typically use a telephone connection for receive audio from my remote K3 >> as its one less dependence on the crummy internet I have. That broke >> today >> so I'm using audio over the Internet using DF3CB REMAUD program. My CW >> sidetone is loud no matter what I set "MON" too, and I've even >> experimented >> with the "LINOUT" configuration; setting it to 0 removes my receive >> audio but not the sidetone. >> >> It seems sidetone is coming from LINOUT and I've not found a way to reduce >> its amplitude. Or I am not thinking about this right... >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Dana >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6tv at arrl.net >> > From hlyingst at yahoo.com Fri Aug 21 12:59:53 2020 From: hlyingst at yahoo.com (Harry Yingst) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 16:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights. In-Reply-To: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1600287271.5598904.1598029193912@mail.yahoo.com> It could also be Metal Halide lights over someone's Saltwater Aquarium. I run?Metal Halide lights over my aquarium and mine are quiet.But I knew a guy who did not have his grounded and shieldedand they put out so much noise they wiped out his TV reception. I gave him a bunch of snap?on chokes and as I recallhe also grounded the reflectors and it quieted it down. On Thursday, August 20, 2020, 09:09:03 PM EDT, ab2tc wrote: Hello all, https://www.edn.com/how-cops-are-finding-grow-ops-with-am-radios/ The above is a link to an article in the EDN magazine (a technical journal primarily aimed at EEs). The article is more than five years old, but maybe it is only recently this type of interference has started to show up in upstate New York. I have one of these noise sources somewhere in my neighborhood (it?s not that easy to pinpoint due to the low frequency). I know this is OT and maybe somewhat controversial, but this type of strong interference is of great concern to the amateur radio community. I am not after anybody in my neighborhood getting arrested, but I very much want to see the interference stop. Even if the operation is legal, the emission is definitely way outside FCC part 15 limits. Quote from the article: ?..conducted emission data clearly shows peaks as high as 100+ dBuV (50 dB over the limit) in the range 6 to 8 MHz, with lower peaks at 14, 18, and 21 MHz.? My interference is primarily in the 7MHz band. 14 MHz is virtually free of it. See here for a screenshot: http://www.ab2tc.com/growlights.png There are three peaks, approximately 49 to 50kHz apart. The center one is centered under the cross hair cursor. As you can see, the band is starting to come to life at about 2:30 in the afternoon. The interference is on 24/7 as far as I can tell. Does anybody have any experiences like this and/or any suggestions what to do? If you want to keep this confidential, E-mail me privately. My E-mail address is OK on qrz.com. AB2TC ? Knut PS. I have previously reported power line noise to the electrical company and have had positive responses (fixes) from them. I suspect that this kind of interference is not easily detectable on their UHF based sniffers; besides I am not sure if conducted interference from residences lies under their jurisdiction (there are only residences here for many blocks). -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyingst at yahoo.com From ab2tc at arrl.net Fri Aug 21 13:36:04 2020 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 10:36:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights (maybe). In-Reply-To: <876300617.15190.1598019898481@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <876300617.15190.1598019898481@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <1598031364292-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Ralph and all, Thanks for your response and I did receive several private E-mails as well. It sounds like a phone call to the power company should be my next move. If I just could find a way to get to a live person without going through a million automated responses and interminable waits! Loose connectors and clamps can apparently cause many different types of interference so can not be ruled out in my case either. I have had several cases like that over the years and they sounded and look quite different from my current interference. But it sounds like nothing should be ruled out. Thanks again, all. AB2TC - Knut RALPH TURK wrote > Hi > I had a similar situation here in Tucson AZ My spectrum analyzer,a Tek > 492 showed groups of carrier like indications 10-20 db above the noise > floor. First think I thought "Grow Lights" I was told that the osculator > in a grow light is about 2.3 Mhz. The interference looked like it was > every 2.3Mhz up the band. Levels were all over the place. Called the > local Power Co and after lots of pleading they finally sent a tech to > check it out. He connected up to my dipole antenna and looked at the > pattern and concluded it was a ground connection proble. Got a crew out > the next week and traced it to a pole out about 2000ft from me. The > problem was radiating > from the HV line for about 2 miles. Fixed the ground and problem > solved. I had traced to one of three poles using a portable radio tuned > the my main problem freq of about 5.2 Mhz and was able to hear the > problem. The main problem was a loose ground clamp up on the pole. The > power company also used an acoustic parabolic mike which pin-pointed the > exact connector. New connector problem solved > Ralph, W7HSG/AFA9RT > >> On 08/20/2020 7:07 PM ab2tc < > ab2tc@ > > wrote: >> > -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From k2asp at kanafi.org Fri Aug 21 14:31:02 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:31:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights (maybe). In-Reply-To: <1598031364292-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <876300617.15190.1598019898481@connect.xfinity.com> <1598031364292-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 8/21/2020 10:36 AM, ab2tc wrote: > Thanks for your response and I did receive several private E-mails as well. > It sounds like a phone call to the power company should be my next move. If > I just could find a way to get to a live person without going through a > million automated responses and interminable waits! In another life when I was with the San Francisco office of the FCC, I used to refer IX calls to Pacific Gas & Electric in California and my contact there was Jim Gillespie in General Construction. Jim was a great help, and I used to kid him that if this was too much work for him he could always go back to washing insulators! His counterpart at Southern California Edison was also well-known as an IX-finder. We're all retired from IX-chasing now and I wouldn't have any idea who to refer such calls to today. As Ken Brown (W2KB) has pointed out over the years, it's to the advantage of the utility to find and fix such leaks (if that is the problem) because it loses money to have energy delivered to a non-paying load. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From mikekopacki at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 14:41:35 2020 From: mikekopacki at gmail.com (Mike Kopacki) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 14:41:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 memory question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D84AE77-1A09-428D-9837-7A9AA0BCE2CE@gmail.com> I read Recision D on the website and didn?t see anything in that one either. Thanks, Mike NJ2OM > On Aug 21, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: > > ?Guess I missed that! Checking now. > > Hmm. Bill, I just paged thru the entire manual and there is no mention of what you?re saying. > > Is it possible you have a newer manual? This one is Revision C, March 12, 2003. > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM > >> On Aug 21, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Nr4c wrote: >> >> ?Read the manual. There is a list of the frequency segments that can be stored in the memory. It?s near the back of the manual. Most bands are 20KHz segments, so many for each band. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>>> On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:47 AM, NJMike wrote: >>> >>> ?The KAT100 manual says that the tuner?s settings are stored in EEPROM. >>> >>> My question is - how many memories are stored? Is it just one for each >>> band? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mike NJ2OM >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri Aug 21 17:37:13 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 17:37:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 memory question In-Reply-To: <2D84AE77-1A09-428D-9837-7A9AA0BCE2CE@gmail.com> References: <2D84AE77-1A09-428D-9837-7A9AA0BCE2CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <581AD708-FB75-4662-93D5-DF7D78CA9EF5@widomaker.com> Oooooooops I misread your email. You are asking about the KAT100 in the radio. I read as KAT500. Download the KAT500 manual and I believe segments are the same for both ATUs. And ?learning? process is the same. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 21, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Mike Kopacki wrote: > > ?I read Recision D on the website and didn?t see anything in that one either. > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM > >> On Aug 21, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: >> >> ?Guess I missed that! Checking now. >> >> Hmm. Bill, I just paged thru the entire manual and there is no mention of what you?re saying. >> >> Is it possible you have a newer manual? This one is Revision C, March 12, 2003. >> >> Thanks, >> Mike NJ2OM >> >>>> On Aug 21, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Nr4c wrote: >>> >>> ?Read the manual. There is a list of the frequency segments that can be stored in the memory. It?s near the back of the manual. Most bands are 20KHz segments, so many for each band. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >>> >>> >>>>> On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:47 AM, NJMike wrote: >>>> >>>> ?The KAT100 manual says that the tuner?s settings are stored in EEPROM. >>>> >>>> My question is - how many memories are stored? Is it just one for each >>>> band? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mike NJ2OM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From augie.hansen at comcast.net Fri Aug 21 18:38:54 2020 From: augie.hansen at comcast.net (Augie "Gus" Hansen) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 16:38:54 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Topband: Rohn 25 Vertical questions. In-Reply-To: References: <1118884167.5185958.1597901306446.JavaMail.root@starpower.net> Message-ID: <2346fa53-31f3-8f76-1eb7-0e9592897b6c@comcast.net> > Wish me well -- I'm evac from fires, and don't know if I still have a > station. K6XX fears that his is gone. > 73, Jim K9YC Such a tragic situation. Best wishes to you, to Bob, and all others in the affected areas. Your personal safety is first in my thoughts, of course, but here's hoping your property survives as well. Gus Hansen KB0YH From kb1tcd at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 19:19:04 2020 From: kb1tcd at gmail.com (JP Douglas) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 19:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights (maybe). In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07E50CCC-7B67-47B9-AF1A-19BFE739EE3A@gmail.com> A friend of mine had same issues a couple of years ago here in Maine, turned out it was marijuana growers using non approved chinese grow lights brought in illegally through Canada and being sold in Portland, ME. We put an end to that, the FCC deputised my friend...even got in the Portland newspaper. 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Sent from my iPad > On Aug 21, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > > ?On 8/21/2020 10:36 AM, ab2tc wrote: > >> Thanks for your response and I did receive several private E-mails as well. >> It sounds like a phone call to the power company should be my next move. If >> I just could find a way to get to a live person without going through a >> million automated responses and interminable waits! > > In another life when I was with the San Francisco office of the FCC, I > used to refer IX calls to Pacific Gas & Electric in California and my > contact there was Jim Gillespie in General Construction. Jim was a > great help, and I used to kid him that if this was too much work for him > he could always go back to washing insulators! His counterpart at > Southern California Edison was also well-known as an IX-finder. We're > all retired from IX-chasing now and I wouldn't have any idea who to > refer such calls to today. > > As Ken Brown (W2KB) has pointed out over the years, it's to the > advantage of the utility to find and fix such leaks (if that is the > problem) because it loses money to have energy delivered to a non-paying > load. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb1tcd at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 21 19:47:55 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 16:47:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Hi all, I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. Wayne N6KR From markmusick at outlook.com Fri Aug 21 20:38:28 2020 From: markmusick at outlook.com (Mark Musick) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 00:38:28 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights (maybe). In-Reply-To: References: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <876300617.15190.1598019898481@connect.xfinity.com> <1598031364292-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi Phil, Having worked for Duke Energy/Cinergy/PSI Energy for 35 years in operations, system planning, substation design and the rate department doing rate design I can tell you there is no revenue lose due to energy losses. It is all rolled into the rates. So, all customers pay for system losses. However, you are correct that it is to the utilities advantage to find and correct these situations. Here in Indiana, the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission (IURC) looks at the system losses in rate cases and reviews steps taken to mitigate system losses. System losses is one of many things included in the cost of service study presented to the commission when requesting a rate increase. The commission has questioned system losses in the past when they seemed out of line with previous lose figures given to them. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Phil Kane Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 18:31 To: ab2tc Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights (maybe). On 8/21/2020 10:36 AM, ab2tc wrote: > Thanks for your response and I did receive several private E-mails as well. > It sounds like a phone call to the power company should be my next > move. If I just could find a way to get to a live person without going > through a million automated responses and interminable waits! In another life when I was with the San Francisco office of the FCC, I used to refer IX calls to Pacific Gas & Electric in California and my contact there was Jim Gillespie in General Construction. Jim was a great help, and I used to kid him that if this was too much work for him he could always go back to washing insulators! His counterpart at Southern California Edison was also well-known as an IX-finder. We're all retired from IX-chasing now and I wouldn't have any idea who to refer such calls to today. As Ken Brown (W2KB) has pointed out over the years, it's to the advantage of the utility to find and fix such leaks (if that is the problem) because it loses money to have energy delivered to a non-paying load. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88b738f429bf4c0b955d08d8460093e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637336315572399413&sdata=7HhH4U13IBcLU7sioPmjxRKRrRp7eUV2W%2F6RhbHxLC4%3D&reserved=0 Help: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88b738f429bf4c0b955d08d8460093e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637336315572399413&sdata=5mbIy6%2FFgUiDx277opyhvhTsZwgavXEWOV%2FvwSxiDBU%3D&reserved=0 Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88b738f429bf4c0b955d08d8460093e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637336315572409408&sdata=wObgxwvH90BGeXKRUEPQr1UoHE6ofYhSfsimBQzkxJo%3D&reserved=0 Please help support this email list: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88b738f429bf4c0b955d08d8460093e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637336315572409408&sdata=HLWx4rk1U4YsvVZz4pBbl%2BcweoXGeW%2B%2BlBmmy9l%2FPlo%3D&reserved=0 Message delivered to markmusick at outlook.com From jh3sif at sumaq.jp Fri Aug 21 20:49:31 2020 From: jh3sif at sumaq.jp (Keith Onishi) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 09:49:31 +0900 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <0DAAC77B-9822-404D-AE8C-691C65765099@sumaq.jp> Hello Wayne, I participated 2 Elecraft live sessions, the 1st K4 demo and QA and KX2 3D modeling. Both were really excellent. I first guessed the K4 demo and QA session was a prepared demonstration plus some QA, but it did not. The demo were as parts of the answer to participants? questions. It was as if I were watching and listening to an engineer answering questions in front of K4 at Elecraft booth in a convention like Dayton. So, the information provided at the session was very interested and useful. The KX2 3D modeling session was what I have never seen before. No other radio manufacturers have provided such in depth information on the radio design. The session was more than I expected. Thank you very much for Providing such nice sessions. 73 de JH3SIF Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi Sent from iPad > 2020/08/22 8:50?Wayne Burdick ????: > > ?Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. > > It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. > > This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) > > Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jh3sif at sumaq.jp From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 21 22:30:47 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 19:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <0DAAC77B-9822-404D-AE8C-691C65765099@sumaq.jp> References: <0DAAC77B-9822-404D-AE8C-691C65765099@sumaq.jp> Message-ID: <7F4A0D9B-1FB5-4597-A87E-CDE56A762DF9@elecraft.com> Agreed on all points. OK if I distill this down and share it with Margaret and Eric? (Both Erics, actually.) Wayne ---- elecraft.com > On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Keith Onishi wrote: > > ?Hello Wayne, > > I participated 2 Elecraft live sessions, the 1st K4 demo and QA and KX2 3D modeling. Both were really excellent. > I first guessed the K4 demo and QA session was a prepared demonstration plus some QA, but it did not. The demo were as parts of the answer to participants? questions. It was as if I were watching and listening to an engineer answering questions in front of K4 at Elecraft booth in a convention like Dayton. So, the information provided at the session was very interested and useful. > The KX2 3D modeling session was what I have never seen before. No other radio manufacturers have provided such in depth information on the radio design. The session was more than I expected. > > Thank you very much for Providing such nice sessions. > > 73 de JH3SIF > > Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi > Sent from iPad > >> 2020/08/22 8:50?Wayne Burdick ????: >> >> ?Hi all, >> >> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. >> >> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. >> >> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) >> >> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jh3sif at sumaq.jp > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From ghyoungman at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 22:32:08 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 22:32:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <2899FF9C-7848-495C-AE70-D187B04523D0@gmail.com> I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn?t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric?s appearances? all three of the them ? on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric?s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. I?m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I?m looking forward to my K4 :-) Grant NQ5T > On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. > > It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. > > This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) > > Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. > > Wayne > N6KR From vk4tux at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 23:01:08 2020 From: vk4tux at gmail.com (Adrian) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 13:01:08 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <2899FF9C-7848-495C-AE70-D187B04523D0@gmail.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> <2899FF9C-7848-495C-AE70-D187B04523D0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> I add to request for the K4 Q&A video if available please ? The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would love to see the Q&A ? Thankyou Adrian Fewster On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote: > I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn?t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. > > It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) > > Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric?s appearances? all three of the them ? on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric?s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. > > I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. > > I?m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I?m looking forward to my K4 :-) > > Grant NQ5T > > > From dave.g4aon at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 04:39:12 2020 From: dave.g4aon at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 09:39:12 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: I really like the presentation style of both Wayne and Eric. Far better than the ?death by PowerPoint? presentations that I left behind when I retired nearly 10 years ago. 73 Dave G4AON -- Sent from my iPhone SE From norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 06:27:19 2020 From: norrislawfirm2 at gmail.com (Eric Norris) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 03:27:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I really liked ALL of the elecraft presentations, and most of the others. Wayne's had a particularly intimate feel to it, which was very different, whereas Eric's was still great, just a more formal, polished approach. Dave's journey into the classic line was very entertaining. I am very frustrated that the K4 Q&A hasn't been posted. The FT units are out there, but we still don't have any idea, really, if the K4 will be the K400lb elephant in the room, or a really good rig that is just the K point on a ski jump with a superb user interface. Is it worth two 7610s? Will PureSignal become a reality soon, or a wish sandwich likeFlex? Is the promised superb NR and NB going to happen? Why not an informal tour of a FT unit being used? Show us the operation, not just the features. Did I hear Eric say the control of a K4 from a tablet, promised at Dayton, will now be done by some third party through API's provided by Elecraft? I heard Eric say a lot of "we hope to's in re the K4's Vhf/Uhf board and other things. I know you can't preannounce future features, but put some sticks in the ground! Commit to a 2m board--there are many times more 2m weak-signal ops--and big guns--than 70cm ops. Finally, there should be a commitment to intelligent fan control for the KPA1500 while I'm whining. Even QC25s don't quiet the RF deck fans. Other amps do it. I thought navigation from the virtual hanfest was terrible--at least from a smart phone. Why make it an Adventure game? Hyperlink the list of speakers to their presentation--forget the track rubrick. My voice has been heard on that issue. My 2 sheets of lettuce. 73 Eric WD6DBM From k3bh at arrl.net Sat Aug 22 07:17:57 2020 From: k3bh at arrl.net (Jay Rutherford) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:17:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Greetings all, I only watched Eric and Wayne's presentations, visited the Elecraft booth, and that was about it. I didn't care about prizes or competitions. I found the format initially interesting, but it didn't hold me for other than Elecraft's booth. I thought Wayne's presentation was personal and detailed. The 3D design of the KX2 was particularly interesting, as was learning about the Sketchup software. Definitely gotta play with that. Although I'll never be in the market for a K4 (KX4 maybe), Eric's talk was informative, well done, and it was nice that it ended at 30 minutes. Suggestion for improvement: make the presentations, many of which were pre-recorded, available any time. I suspect the technology is able to do that, except for the live questions "phoned" in. It took me a few days to find Wayne's talk on the KX2, as I was busy during the announced times on the weekend. I MUCH prefer a live event, but given the constraints we are under, think this an acceptable substitute. 73 Jay K3BH K2, now 20+ years old KX2 KX3 On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, at 19:47, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, > especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. From stuff at ahebden.com Sat Aug 22 07:21:40 2020 From: stuff at ahebden.com (Andrew Hebden) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 12:21:40 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <000001d67876$6874d6d0$395e8470$@ahebden.com> Hi, I enjoyed the Ham Expo with plenty to see along with presentations from various vendors. Getting to grips with the navigation was relatively straight forward although the chat room got a little busy until I realised I could turn parts of it off. Overall, it was more or less what I expected. Not too fussed about joining in the kids game of collecting points. My specific interest was the K4 presentations which Eric made look so easy with his laid back style. I did get a bit confused with some of the questions being raised as many were not on the on-line list of questions. I presumed that they had been raised in advance although at one point I suspected they had come from the Elecraft chat room. It did not detract me from enjoying "the show", especially as I had three questions addressed. Many other queries I had were answered as part of the presentation in a pleasant straight forward manner. Your 3D presentation was absolutely fascinating, what more can I say? I got the impression Scott was caught on the hop but did his best. Eric Guth was great Several questions were answered in text mode within the chat box by someone else. Unfortunately, I had a fleeting glance of one of my questions being answered before it all disappeared at the end of the presentation. It would be nice to see the text within the questions list be published alongside some of the other Q&A sessions. I appreciate that this may be technically difficult as well as the possibility of the requirement for "plausible deniability", said with tongue in cheek! Many thanks for all the effort put in, it made for a pleasant experience after so long in lockdown. 73 G8BYB Andrew Hebden -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: 22 August 2020 00:48 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Hi all, I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to stuff at ahebden.com From weaverwf at usermail.com Sat Aug 22 08:07:17 2020 From: weaverwf at usermail.com (weaverwf at usermail.com) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:07:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <801EDD66-944F-48C9-B003-200210662D53@usermail.com> Hi Wayne, A thumbs up here. I was disappointed that I couldn?t watch the presentations live with my tablet (still not sure why? Probably cockpit error here!) but the format of leaving the presentations on line is a good idea. I am also disappointed that I missed most the Q&A sessions. The few that I did catch seemed to be as informative as the presentations themselves. It would be nice to have them on line also. I didn?t spend much time in the booth as I already run a K3s/KPA1500 and don?t need to even think of the K4 in the short term :-). 73, Bill WE5P Comfortably Numb > On Aug 22, 2020, at 07:19, Jay Rutherford wrote: > > ?Greetings all, > > I only watched Eric and Wayne's presentations, visited the Elecraft booth, and that was about it. I didn't care about prizes or competitions. I found the format initially interesting, but it didn't hold me for other than Elecraft's booth. > > I thought Wayne's presentation was personal and detailed. The 3D design of the KX2 was particularly interesting, as was learning about the Sketchup software. Definitely gotta play with that. Although I'll never be in the market for a K4 (KX4 maybe), Eric's talk was informative, well done, and it was nice that it ended at 30 minutes. > > Suggestion for improvement: make the presentations, many of which were pre-recorded, available any time. I suspect the technology is able to do that, except for the live questions "phoned" in. It took me a few days to find Wayne's talk on the KX2, as I was busy during the announced times on the weekend. > > I MUCH prefer a live event, but given the constraints we are under, think this an acceptable substitute. > > 73 > Jay K3BH > K2, now 20+ years old > KX2 > KX3 > >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, at 19:47, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, >> especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to weaverwf at usermail.com From rocketnj at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 08:26:50 2020 From: rocketnj at gmail.com (rocketnj at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <000901d6787f$831eecb0$895cc610$@gmail.com> The event was free and enjoyable. Being able to interact via chat with reps from different companies was a great idea. The prerecorded presentations were for the most part great. The site navigation needs to be improved, especially on an iPad. The text chat on the iPad had the last line of text in a long chat obscured by the text entry window where you enter your own text. Also default view of a booth did not show the navigation bar underneath. You needed to take your finger and drag the window down to see it. The Chat button should be more prominent and not all the way to the right. These are things that can be fixed for next time. Again, in the crazy world we live in now it was enjoyable to have some time to take our mind away to better thoughts (buying a new radio or amp). Dave wo2x From mikerosenberg at hotmail.com Sat Aug 22 08:50:09 2020 From: mikerosenberg at hotmail.com (Michael Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 12:50:09 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: I appreciate your asking for public feedback first and foremost. The event was well done given it was its inaugural occurrence. Wasn't a fan that the prize system could be so easily gamed. My suggestion that attendees perform some number of requisite activities to then be entered in a random drawing for the prizes. Keeps those from creating bots or "just passing through for the points" at bay. I very much enjoyed the K4 presentation as well as the 3D KX3 presentation. I especially liked the "layered" approach to the K4 content. The prepared video followed by a live Zoom session with Eric. I makes sense to do the overview in a prepared format. My suggestion for next time is to add a FAQ section to the end of the overview to demonstrate close up and with detailed explanations as to the key features and functions you want to highlight. The hope would be to remove those questions from the interactive session by dealing with them in advance. The Zoom session was simply outstanding. Not just for the generosity of Eric's time as he took all questions asked, but his willing to be straight up and forthright regarding the 1st round of K4 shipments. That built a lot of trust with me. The only thing I would change would be to have the camera that was positioned to present the hands on demonstrations in a better spot to get a better view of the "button pushing" in action. I also liked that the Elecraft chat room always had several persons readily available to answer questions. In some chat rooms, you had one person constantly getting bombarded by attendees with questions and they couldn't keep up. Each rep highlighted their expertise (classic lines, KX, amps) in their descriptions so you could direct you questions to the person best suited to provide an answer. That alone made the process of getting questions answered easier and was a very thoughtful touch. Overall, great job. Best 73 as I save for my K4..... Mike N9YB From w6ya at cox.net Sat Aug 22 11:16:15 2020 From: w6ya at cox.net (Jim McCook) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:16:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG No Power Output Message-ID: <0dc80c59-6fe1-2888-4ed3-b3cbdbeda01f@cox.net> I have a spontaneous K3 failure after making no changes. This morning my K3 has only 1 or 2w power output when set to 100w or around 32w when the KPA1500 is turned on and set to OPER.? It's the same on all bands and with a dummy load.? It worked fine last night for several QSOs.? I tried a 5w TX GAIN calibration but it failed with erratic, varying low power readings.? I loaded a previous Configuration file but that didn't help.? Whenever I press TUNE I get the ERR TXG message after shutting it off.? Power in TUNE is set to 50w, but when I hold TUNE the display flickers between 2 and 8w.? Any ideas?? Jim W6YA From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 22 11:30:03 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights. In-Reply-To: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1597972049002-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <420c4bb0-92ab-580d-829f-cf3ddc311a1d@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/20/2020 6:07 PM, ab2tc wrote: > Does anybody have any experiences like this and/or any suggestions what to > do? This, and a lot of other noise sources, are addressed extensively in these two pdfs. http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf http://k9yc.com/KillingRXNoiseVisalia.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From n4zr at comcast.net Sat Aug 22 11:38:21 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:38:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG No Power Output In-Reply-To: <0dc80c59-6fe1-2888-4ed3-b3cbdbeda01f@cox.net> References: <0dc80c59-6fe1-2888-4ed3-b3cbdbeda01f@cox.net> Message-ID: <722dbcd1-c5ea-0257-8870-bce26efc502d@comcast.net> Hi Jim, are you seeing these issues with the control cable between the K3 and the KPA-1500 connected?? Are you reading these output numbers on the K3, the KPA-1500 or an independent power meter? 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 8/22/2020 11:16 AM, Jim McCook wrote: > I have a spontaneous K3 failure after making no changes. This morning > my K3 has only 1 or 2w power output when set to 100w or around 32w > when the KPA1500 is turned on and set to OPER.? It's the same on all > bands and with a dummy load.? It worked fine last night for several > QSOs.? I tried a 5w TX GAIN calibration but it failed with erratic, > varying low power readings.? I loaded a previous Configuration file > but that didn't help.? Whenever I press TUNE I get the ERR TXG message > after shutting it off.? Power in TUNE is set to 50w, but when I hold > TUNE the display flickers between 2 and 8w.? Any ideas?? Jim W6YA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4zr at comcast.net From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sat Aug 22 11:38:46 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:38:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: [I sent this privately to Wayne, but people on the list may like it.] I tried to express my feelings about the expo in their feedback survey. Perhaps prose will work better. I enjoyed it, but I hated not being able to pause presentations or pick them up later.* Online from home isn't the same as in a hall. People come to the door. The phone rings. You name it. What I would like is something to handle these problems AND fix some of the problems with inperson expos. The big problem I see at inperson expos have is conflicting sessions. If all the sessions were available at the beginning, and the Q&A were scheduled later, attendees could listen to the presentation at their convenience and then show up for the Q&A if they wanted to. The Q&A should be recorded and made available ASAP so someone missing the Q&A could at least hear other people's interactions. I never found a way to make casual contact with old friends. At inperson expos, I work mostly by facial recognition, carefully reading the badge to help recall the name. Being somewhat shy, I generally try to lurk in the background. The online format just didn't work for me. As for the exhibitors, what I get mostly our of inperson expos is the ability to see things "in the flesh". "Oh my, that KX2 is really tiny. Time to get serious about SOTA" kinda thing. That, learning about things I didn't know existed, and buying connectors etc. from the vendors are the reasons I visit the vendors. Oh yes, and saying Hi to old friends like the people from Elecraft. 73 Bill AE6JV * I fixed this problem by reading the HTML of the page and finding the uTube link to the presentation. My inner computer hacker come out. On 8/21/20 at 7:47 PM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: >I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham >Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to >make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next >March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. > >It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your >experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos >are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to >the event as a whole. > >This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on >the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let >my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's >pure teflon.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | If you want total security, go to prison. There you're 408-348-7900 | fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only www.pwpconsult.com | thing lacking is freedom. - Dwight D. Eisenhower From w6ya at cox.net Sat Aug 22 11:54:48 2020 From: w6ya at cox.net (Jim McCook) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:54:48 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG No Power Output Message-ID: <0e58b314-75d6-dccc-db5a-56ba94d4736a@cox.net> Pete, the problem occurs with the K-3 connected directly to a dummy load or various antennas. ? Power is read on K3 and Bird wattmeter. Mike, I'll try reseating all TMP connectors if there is no magic bullet. From w0fm at swbell.net Sat Aug 22 12:01:48 2020 From: w0fm at swbell.net (Terry Schieler) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:01:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits In-Reply-To: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> References: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001c01d6789d$8b661510$a2323f30$@swbell.net> Hey Victor. I have sent you pics of a couple of the Tuna Can kits I've constructed. They were built as pure recreation. But they work! Not a K3S but fun QRP rigs. Terry, W0FM -----Original Message----- From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP [mailto:k2vco.vic at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:37 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits Does anyone have experience with Rex Harper of Tuna Can Kits? He sells precut PCB pieces for Manhattan-style construction. Please respond off-list. Thanks! -- 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ From hs0zed at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 12:44:48 2020 From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 19:44:48 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG No Power Output In-Reply-To: <0e58b314-75d6-dccc-db5a-56ba94d4736a@cox.net> References: <0e58b314-75d6-dccc-db5a-56ba94d4736a@cox.net> Message-ID: <86cf87af-e35a-7211-070d-65ead461432d@gmail.com> My first thought would be that if re-seating TMP connectors does not do it then possibly one of the 0.1uF decoupling capacitors on the K-REF3 board. Had that on 2 radios now and on one of them twice. What is the serial number of your K3? On both of the problem radios I've had this happen almost exactly the same, fine one minute gone the next, both radios were sub 500 S/N's so getting on a bit. Regards Martin, HS0ZED On 22/8/63 18:54, Jim McCook wrote: > Pete, the problem occurs with the K-3 connected directly to a dummy > load or various antennas. ? Power is read on K3 and Bird wattmeter. > Mike, I'll try reseating all TMP connectors if there is no magic bullet. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hs0zed at gmail.com From w6ya at cox.net Sat Aug 22 13:18:02 2020 From: w6ya at cox.net (Jim McCook) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:18:02 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG No Power Output Message-ID: <012aafb6-aeb8-0584-89c9-03886862cd73@cox.net> Martin, thanks for the suggestion.? It sounds like a likely source.? It was also suggested to be a bad transistor in the LPA.? His was from experience, also.? Will first reseat those TMP and other connectors this weekend.? I'll try to reach telephone support on Monday before I ship it to Elecraft for a lengthy repair time.? I know the fires have affected them already.? Very sad.? 73, Jim W6YA From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 13:40:15 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:40:15 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits In-Reply-To: <001c01d6789d$8b661510$a2323f30$@swbell.net> References: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> <001c01d6789d$8b661510$a2323f30$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <80a5c5cf-2d95-91e1-4ca3-6aef3c7d6926@gmail.com> Very cute. Actual tuna cans! 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 22/08/2020 19:01, Terry Schieler wrote: > Hey Victor. I have sent you pics of a couple of the Tuna Can kits > I've constructed. They were built as pure recreation. But they > work! Not a K3S but fun QRP rigs. > > Terry, W0FM > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > [mailto:k2vco.vic at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:37 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits > > Does anyone have experience with Rex Harper of Tuna Can Kits? He > sells precut PCB pieces for Manhattan-style construction. > > Please respond off-list. Thanks! > From ve7day at telus.net Sat Aug 22 13:45:42 2020 From: ve7day at telus.net (John) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:45:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits In-Reply-To: <80a5c5cf-2d95-91e1-4ca3-6aef3c7d6926@gmail.com> References: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> <001c01d6789d$8b661510$a2323f30$@swbell.net> <80a5c5cf-2d95-91e1-4ca3-6aef3c7d6926@gmail.com> Message-ID: VE7SL has a blog where he writes about a Tuna Tin he built and worked all states with. ve7day On 22/08/2020 10:40 a.m., Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Very cute. Actual tuna cans! > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 22/08/2020 19:01, Terry Schieler wrote: >> Hey Victor.? I have sent you pics of a couple of the Tuna Can kits >> I've constructed.? They were built as pure recreation.? But they >> work!? Not a K3S but fun QRP rigs. >> >> Terry, W0FM >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP >> [mailto:k2vco.vic at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:37 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits >> >> Does anyone have experience with Rex Harper of Tuna Can Kits? He >> sells precut PCB pieces for Manhattan-style construction. >> >> Please respond off-list. Thanks! >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ve7day at telus.net From brianchapnick at rogers.com Sat Aug 22 13:49:08 2020 From: brianchapnick at rogers.com (brianchapnick at rogers.com) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 13:49:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K1EL wnk mini References: Message-ID: From ar at dseven.org Sat Aug 22 15:47:27 2020 From: ar at dseven.org (iain macdonnell - N6ML) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 12:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:19 AM David Bondy wrote: > > I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever resolved. > > If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs? > > My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable. > > Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ?local? remote connection? This used to work, back in the K3/0 non-mini days. You'd connect the two using a null-modem cable, and invoke "terminal mode" with a long press (~5 seconds) of the MENU button. The manual for the "mini" is a bit vague, but it looks like its connection to the RRC box is TTL, not RS232, so to connect that to a K3 directly might require a level converter interface. 73, ~iain / N6ML From reillyjf at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 16:36:35 2020 From: reillyjf at gmail.com (John Reilly) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:36:35 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: I thought an overall problem was you couldn't enter a presentation until the exact time it started. I think they should have a "buffer" time, say 5 minutes, where you can enter and wait for the presentation to begin. Second, I didn't care for how the questions were presented. At all of the presentations, the questions managers started at the top, and worked their way through all of the questions, one by one. In a lot of cases the questions were duplicates and had already been answered. It would be nice if after the presentation, someone would go through the remaining questions and try to answer them, and post the results. Maybe 30 minutes is too short for questions about popular topics (like the K4). ? - 73, John, N0TA From eric at elecraft.com Sat Aug 22 16:38:25 2020 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 13:38:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] N. CA Fires: Elecraft facility and employees are OK Message-ID: We have received a number of inquiries asking if we are all safe and if Elecraft is directly threatened by the current lightning induced fires in northern California. (The one closest to the north of us is named the ?CZU August Lightning Complex?) Both Wayne, myself and our families are safe, along with Elecraft. Both of us live some distance from the active fires. I am closer in Aptos, CA, 8 miles south of the coastal city of Santa Cruz. So far the fire is staying several miles north of Santa Cruz in the Santa Cruz mountains. Conditions improved somewhat today, slowing the fire with lower temps, coastal fog and the forecast of an afternoon wind shift that may push back on the fire. Of course I am watching this closely. The Elecraft Factory is open and safe. It is located in Watsonville, CA, next to HW 1, another 10 miles south of where I live. Its in a small research park in an open area, well away from the forested areas and the mountains. All of our employees are safe. One, who does live in the mountians up north in the fire area, was evacuated safely ahead of the fire with his wife. We are hoping their home survived, which has a very large permanent fire break around it that they had previously cleared and maintained. Fingers crossed.. We will make sure to keep everyone here updated. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ From eric at elecraft.com Sat Aug 22 16:47:22 2020 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 13:47:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> References: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Adrian, We?re waiting for the recording K4 Q&A video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page. I?ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q&A sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Adrian wrote: > > ?I add to request for the K4 Q&A video if available please ? > > The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would love to see the Q&A ? > > > Thankyou > > Adrian Fewster > > > >> On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote: >> I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn?t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. >> >> It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) >> >> Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric?s appearances? all three of the them ? on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric?s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. >> >> I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. >> >> I?m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I?m looking forward to my K4 :-) >> >> Grant NQ5T >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From marklgoldberg at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 17:15:41 2020 From: marklgoldberg at gmail.com (Mark Goldberg) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:15:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 1:48 PM Eric Swartz wrote: > We?re waiting for the recording K4 Q&A video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page. > > I?ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q&A sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth. I pretty much agree with what was said already. I did find the trick to watch the presentations at a different time and full screen. I am eagerly awaiting the recorded Q&A sessions. I couldn't see them all at the time. I'm a semi-retired engineer and I've used lots of CAD programs, both electrical and mechanical. It was still very interesting to see how you did things with Sketchup Pro. No other supplier has come anywhere close to showing how their engineering process works. It was really interesting to see how you got a balance between free and not functional enough and the big iron stuff that is thousands per seat per year. I am still a little annoyed with them for making what was a free program not free, but I guess you get over it if it meets your needs, technically and financially. I've really enjoyed my communications with all of you, including the developers and engineers on the forums. I've never gotten a tour and demo by the company owner any other place! 73, Mark W7MLG From kevinr at coho.net Sat Aug 22 17:33:55 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:33:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] N. CA Fires: Elecraft facility and employees are OK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you want to see where the smoke is being generated you can go here: https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES17/ABI/SECTOR/wus/GEOCOLOR/20202352100_GOES17-ABI-wus-GEOCOLOR-4000x4000.jpg Smoke is filling all of central and northern California.? There are only a few fires in Oregon east of the Cascades. Good luck, ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS - On 8/22/20 1:38 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: > We have received a number of inquiries asking if we are all safe and if Elecraft is directly threatened by the current lightning induced fires in northern California. (The one closest to the north of us is named the ?CZU August Lightning Complex?) > > Both Wayne, myself and our families are safe, along with Elecraft. Both of us live some distance from the active fires. I am closer in Aptos, CA, 8 miles south of the coastal city of Santa Cruz. So far the fire is staying several miles north of Santa Cruz in the Santa Cruz mountains. Conditions improved somewhat today, slowing the fire with lower temps, coastal fog and the forecast of an afternoon wind shift that may push back on the fire. Of course I am watching this closely. > > The Elecraft Factory is open and safe. It is located in Watsonville, CA, next to HW 1, another 10 miles south of where I live. Its in a small research park in an open area, well away from the forested areas and the mountains. > > All of our employees are safe. One, who does live in the mountians up north in the fire area, was evacuated safely ahead of the fire with his wife. We are hoping their home survived, which has a very large permanent fire break around it that they had previously cleared and maintained. Fingers crossed.. > > We will make sure to keep everyone here updated. > > 73, > Eric > elecraft.com > _..._ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net From kzerocx at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 17:53:09 2020 From: kzerocx at gmail.com (Gary Peterson) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:53:09 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Gary, K0CX I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T From va3mw at portcredit.net Sat Aug 22 18:02:00 2020 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:02:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> Message-ID: I had to do 2 presentations. The Q and A was really good I thought and well managed when you consider over 26,000 people registered and about 1/2 of those showed up on Saturday, just like a normal Hamfest. But, yes, I have a list of things I would like to see changed for the one in March. 73, Mike va3mw From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 18:18:11 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:18:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12B99674-9E39-46E4-A77B-2FD6CF0E196D@gmail.com> According to a post by the organizers, there was even some cheating done to rack up scores to win a prize. And those results had to be ferreted out and removed from the picture. Sadly not surprising ? Grant NQ5T > On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: > > Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. > > Gary, K0CX > > > I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T From oldmanshu at icloud.com Sat Aug 22 18:47:56 2020 From: oldmanshu at icloud.com (Joseph Shuman) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:47:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: <20CCB8A0-840C-4511-B9E8-BCD3C5C4F898@icloud.com> Keeping Watch - shu Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ From marklgoldberg at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 18:51:04 2020 From: marklgoldberg at gmail.com (Mark Goldberg) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:51:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <12B99674-9E39-46E4-A77B-2FD6CF0E196D@gmail.com> References: <12B99674-9E39-46E4-A77B-2FD6CF0E196D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that competitive prize part could just be dropped. If the system wasn't successfully gamed this time, it will be next time. There are plenty of folks around the world with time on their hands to create bots to do just about anything. It just begs for someone to do it and now they will have months to come up with it. It isn't worth the time for the organizers to waste trying to stop it. Regards, Mark On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:19 PM Grant Youngman wrote: > > According to a post by the organizers, there was even some cheating done to rack up scores to win a prize. And those results had to be ferreted out and removed from the picture. Sadly not surprising ? > > Grant NQ5T > From w6ya at cox.net Sat Aug 22 19:01:53 2020 From: w6ya at cox.net (Jim McCook) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 23:01:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG No Power Output Message-ID: Problem solved (so far)!? I removed all cables from the K3, opened the top and re-seated all the TMP connectors. When removing the cables I noticed the screws holding the RS232 connector were? loose and the connector was very slightly unseated on the left side.? After putting everything back together the K3 was transmitting normally again.? After several on/off cycles during the day it seems OK. Thanks for all the suggestions. It was good to hear Eric say all the Elecraft employees are safe!? Hopefully their homes are, too. Jim W6YA From rick.nk7i at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 19:29:33 2020 From: rick.nk7i at gmail.com (Rick NK7I) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:29:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree and there was apparently some cheating involved too, requiring a resolution after the fact. If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), so they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest.? Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'. 73, Rick NK7I PS I watched after, those days were already filled with family things.? Being able to see what I wanted on my own schedule, really nice. On 8/22/2020 2:53 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: > Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. > > Gary, K0CX > > > I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.nk7i at gmail.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sat Aug 22 20:21:36 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:21:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <12B99674-9E39-46E4-A77B-2FD6CF0E196D@gmail.com> References: <12B99674-9E39-46E4-A77B-2FD6CF0E196D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Not that I care, but I never figured out how one played the game.? Part of the abysmal navigation I suppose.? With on exception, that I "walked out of", the presentations that I viewed were very good to excellent.? I watched many of them after-the-fact. Two of the presenters are personal friends and fellow DX club members.? Although we've argued about it in the past, one has convinced me and I've been dragged, kicking and screaming over to the dark side and have started using FT8.? To tie this to Elecraft, as I was operating last night, and I mentioned this to my better half, I thought why would I want to replace my K3S, which now sits on fixed frequencies, with a K4 with bells and whistles? Wes? N7WS On 8/22/2020 3:18 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > According to a post by the organizers, there was even some cheating done to rack up scores to win a prize. And those results had to be ferreted out and removed from the picture. Sadly not surprising ? > > Grant NQ5T > >> On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: >> >> Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. >> >> Gary, K0CX >> >> >> I thought the Expo was excellent overall...couldnt have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. Grant NQ5T From kevin at ve3syb.ca Sat Aug 22 20:23:09 2020 From: kevin at ve3syb.ca (Kevin Cozens) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:23:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits In-Reply-To: <80a5c5cf-2d95-91e1-4ca3-6aef3c7d6926@gmail.com> References: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> <001c01d6789d$8b661510$a2323f30$@swbell.net> <80a5c5cf-2d95-91e1-4ca3-6aef3c7d6926@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2020-08-22 1:40 p.m., Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Very cute. Actual tuna cans! Not the first time its been done. The Tuna Tin II designed and built by Doug DeMaw used a tuna can for the chassis. The companion CB slider was built in to a corned beef can. Just make sure to wash the cans thoroughly to keep the cats away. :) -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick From bbaines at mac.com Sat Aug 22 20:58:11 2020 From: bbaines at mac.com (Barry Baines) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:58:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick: > On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:29 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: > > I agree and there was apparently some cheating involved too, requiring a resolution after the fact. While I spent the weekend at the Expo, I did not sign up for the ?contest.? First, it wasn?t clear how to do that and second, it seemed to me that my preferences for how I intended to spend my time viewing presentations and resulting Q&A would be counter-productive towards a ?winning? score. > > If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), so they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest. Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'. Given that winners have been announced, it would be interesting to see how many points were racked up by the top 10 winners and how they were generated. My hypothesis is that if the focus is on ?contesting?, then one needs to fully appreciate the rules and determine a strategy for ?hitting spots? that maximizes points over the course of the weekend. I suspect that such a strategy would result in lost opportunities to see presentations in full, be involved with Q&A sessions, chat with vendors on specific topics of interest, peruse materials of interest at various vendors, and simply take full advantage of the opportunity to ?talk ham radio? with those attending. Contesting also introduces stress and a focus on maximizing points/QSOs per unit of time, which is counter to the idea of taking time to fully benefit from the resources being offered at the Expo. Consequently, I ignored the ?contest?, and I as I would normally do at Hamcation or Hamvention, mapped out in advance the specific presentations I wanted to see and ensured that my iPhone would alert me when a presentation of interest was about to begin. And rather than having to rush to a forum room and squeeze by other attendees to get a seat (as what happens at in-person events), I then sat back on my desk chair and ?got educated?. If there was a break in the presentation schedule, I checked the various commercial booths that were of interest to me and asked questions/got answers, took a look at the documents being offered at these booths of interest and ended each day feeling that I had spent my time well. Elecraft and others did a great job with their presentations and willingness to ?talk up? their products. In some respects I learned more at this Expo than at prior hamfests. I suspect this was due to the presenters taping their ?schtick? which allowed them more carefully plan/script how they using their allocated time and to redo/edit/modify as necessary to make a better product, and there weren?t interruptions/distractions that occur when things are done live. The Q&A was generally excellent. Now, with all that said, the one thing that a hamfest has that the Expo does not is the face-to-face personal interaction. I look forward to hamfests because of the people and the opportunity to see friends and meet new ones. Yes, I also enjoy the fun of getting there and checking out the flea market looking at the latest/greatest gizmos, and having dinner with friends. Hopefully, we?ll be able to enjoy one another?s company in 2021 at both Orlando and Xenia and every other hamfest in between. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA) > > 73, > Rick NK7I > > PS I watched after, those days were already filled with family things. Being able to see what I wanted on my own schedule, really nice. > From w1srd at yahoo.com Sat Aug 22 21:17:54 2020 From: w1srd at yahoo.com (Steve Dyer) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:17:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Non Working KSB2 + KSB2 MOD KIT References: <37e59fca-ed38-4950-0e8f-bf3c611e9f17.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37e59fca-ed38-4950-0e8f-bf3c611e9f17@yahoo.com> It doesn't work. I don't know why. It has all components installed. It was years ago and I was in KH6 for work. It was faster for me to build another KSB2 (they were a lot cheaper then!) so I could get on the air quickly. Old style crystals. Firmware 1.04. D1 and D2 have one lead lifted probably as part of troubleshooting. Includes new PSK-31 upgrade mod kit still in the bag. Yours for $50 plus $10 postage USPS Priority mail. Sold AS-IS. 73, Steve W1SRD From kt5te at watershipfarm.com Sat Aug 22 21:51:53 2020 From: kt5te at watershipfarm.com (KT5TE@WATERSHIPFARM.COM) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:51:53 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16311086.9qgWzoa4XG@linux-veff> > Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered > attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Virtual couldn't be competitive for those in my position, satellite internet. As it was I had to buy an extra few GBs just to watch what was interesting. If I even wanted to compete the cost would be $100.00 or more. The upside is noise isn't much of an issue. :-) My brother, KG5RZT, has an observatory where the roof opens and there are two large telescopes with massive cameras. Light pollution is slowly starting to spoil things a bit (mostly on the horizon) and I imagine the noise will eventually get here too. You city folks need to kill some of your lights and gizmos. ;-) -- 73, William KT5TE From wa6usa at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 22:39:51 2020 From: wa6usa at gmail.com (Tom Muller) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 19:39:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB 13 KHz Filter for K3 Message-ID: I understand this filter will work on FM and AM in the K3 From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sat Aug 22 23:22:23 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 23:22:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB 13 KHz Filter for K3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/22/20 at 10:39 PM, wa6usa at gmail.com (Tom Muller) wrote: > I understand this filter will work on FM and AM in the K3 Works fine on AM and FM. Also works on wide band digital like FT8 and PSK. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | When an old person dies, a | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | library burns. - Joe McGawon | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | Irish Ethnographer | Peterborough, NH 03458 From kevinr at coho.net Sun Aug 23 00:01:53 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 21:01:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <8be369c5-b1af-c16c-dd1d-6e159768428c@coho.net> Good Evening, ?? It cooled off and got wet the last few days.? Fire danger dropped considerably.? Too bad the rain can't move south a few hundred miles.? There are no sunspots today, but in a day or two a group will pass over the limb.? Autumn is starting a little early.? It is going to be a very short summer.? More trees are turning colors with some losing their leaves.? The foxgloves are almost done blooming and its still August. Please join us on (or near): 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) ?? 73, ????? Kevin. KD5ONS _ From d.palmer at btinternet.com Sun Aug 23 05:25:38 2020 From: d.palmer at btinternet.com (Don Palmer) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 10:25:38 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Non Working KSB2 + KSB2 MOD KIT Message-ID: Hi Steve would you sell outside the US and I can pay you via PayPal and make the postage $20 to cover the cost for it to be sent to the UK. Thanks Don G6CMV From akengineering at live.com Sun Aug 23 10:21:44 2020 From: akengineering at live.com (Aubrey Mason) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:21:44 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Radio, PS and PX3 all sold Aubrey ________________________________ From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: KX3, PX3, 30A switching supply + accessories for sale. $2,100.00 KX3 was recently at the factory for upgrades (15W output, install upgrades, 2M module, factory alignment) Has all available options installed; KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, KX3-2M, KX3HSMDKT Includes: MH3, KXPD3, XG50, AX1+AXE1+AXB1, KX3-PCKT, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, soft carrying case, factory manual and KX3 book by Cady $450 PX3 has two sets of PX3-KX3 cables to connect it to the KX3, side handles, plastic cover, plastic angled stand, power cable, factory manual $100 New Powerwerx 30A switching power supply (lists on Elecraft website for $120 before tax and shipping) Located in San Antonio Texas 73's ! Aubrey Mason WA6DMI 210-602-4291 From len at ka7ftp.com Sun Aug 23 10:23:32 2020 From: len at ka7ftp.com (len at ka7ftp.com) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:23:32 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <16311086.9qgWzoa4XG@linux-veff> References: <16311086.9qgWzoa4XG@linux-veff> Message-ID: <040301d67958$fad6c370$f0844a50$@ka7ftp.com> +1 on the light pollution. As to the Expo: I really enjoyed the presentations. Being virtual there was no reason to overlap them in the way they did. Don't try and emulate a real hamfest. I would have to cut one short to join another over lapping presentation. A few of the presenters needed to work out the technical details of using the SW. One presenter I watched assumed his slides were on the screen, they were not. He would refer to the slides, but his face was on the screen. The navigation was a bit screwy, mostly related to the presenter schedule. Having to pan the exhibit hall was tedious. Make it navigate more like a real website and not a video game. Loved the Elecraft presentations. Bothe the K4 and the KX2 walk though. Makes my mouth water for a K4. The method for giving away the prizes was totally stupid. Should have been a minimum amount of participation and then a random drawing. The point system encouraged bad behavior. i.e. If I was actually watching presentations there was no way I could ever get enough points to qualify. I would have enjoyed being in a drawing, but I spent my time watching presentations. Why make us choose? The people who game the system add ZERO value... len -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KT5TE at WATERSHIPFARM.COM Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 7:52 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants > Agreed. Much better than I expected. And I never considered > attending a hamfest, virtual or otherwise, to be a competitive sport. Virtual couldn't be competitive for those in my position, satellite internet. As it was I had to buy an extra few GBs just to watch what was interesting. If I even wanted to compete the cost would be $100.00 or more. The upside is noise isn't much of an issue. :-) My brother, KG5RZT, has an observatory where the roof opens and there are two large telescopes with massive cameras. Light pollution is slowly starting to spoil things a bit (mostly on the horizon) and I imagine the noise will eventually get here too. You city folks need to kill some of your lights and gizmos. ;-) -- 73, William KT5TE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to len at ka7ftp.com From jackbrindle at me.com Sun Aug 23 10:26:59 2020 From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 07:26:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuna Can Kits In-Reply-To: References: <7f080618-4cfb-d4d3-d8e3-fb6a6fb171a5@gmail.com> <001c01d6789d$8b661510$a2323f30$@swbell.net> <80a5c5cf-2d95-91e1-4ca3-6aef3c7d6926@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually, I built the CB Slider in a chopped beef can. The Corned Beef cans we found all had sharp edges and were deemed too dangerous for the project. The Chopped Beef product fit the bill for both space and the project name. It was a fun project oh so long ago with pretty much all electronic parts obtained from Radio Shack. 73! Jack (?Stan?) Brindle, W6FB (ex WA4FIB, WB5KQJ?) > On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote: > > On 2020-08-22 1:40 p.m., Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >> Very cute. Actual tuna cans! > > Not the first time its been done. The Tuna Tin II designed and built by Doug DeMaw used a tuna can for the chassis. The companion CB slider was built in to a corned beef can. Just make sure to wash the cans thoroughly to keep the cats away. :) > > -- > Cheers! > > Kevin. > > http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that > https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and > | that's why we're powerful" > Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | > #include | --Chris Hardwick > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrindle at me.com From nv4c.ian at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 11:00:41 2020 From: nv4c.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn, NV4C) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 11:00:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <4a5ef16b-3fe0-48ba-521e-895b35ce9839@gmail.com> While I enjoyed the Virtual Ham Expo, there were some aspects I thought could be improved. I sent this feedback to Eric Guth via the feedback survey I received not long after the Expo closed. * Like everyone else who has responded so far, I enjoyed Eric's demo of the K4. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the K4 kits so I can order and build mine. I'm even getting my work area prepared already, for something I know is still probably 6-8 months out. * I really liked Wayne's presentation on the architecture of the KX3. It was really neat to have the chief designer of the product show us, component-by-component, how it was designed. * The gamification of the door prizes needs to go away. As has been said here before, and I'm sure to Eric G., ad nauseum - it penalizes those who actually want to enjoy the presentations and those who can't spend all 48 hours of the Expo going to the vendors' booths and the on-line lounge. And, it only encourages bad behavior, as the Expo organizers quickly discovered. * Users should be able to enter the presentations a few minutes early. By only allowing us to enter at the exact moment the forum started, it was possible to miss part of the presentation due to latency or other technical issues. * Since all the initial presentations were prerecorded, they should be available for viewing any time after the initial presentation is given. Nobody is good enough to be in multiple places at once, even virtually. And, some very good presentations overlapped with each other. * Check the videos for quality well before the Expo begins. I attended the Carole Perry Youth Forum, because two of the presenters belong to my radio club. Carole's intro was well worth the time, but she was so animated in her speaking style that her web cam kept trying to refocus. I was getting motion sick from it. * The vendor area should be more than just links to the vendors' web sites. If that's all you're giving me, aside from the chat, why should I bother using the vendor area? I can just go to the web sites myself. * The vendor area needs to be easier to navigate. The button to exit each booth to the "hallway" outside the booth was not prominent enough. I didn't even know it was there until the end of the day Saturday. I kept ending up back at the "front door" to the vendor arena. All this being said, I think it was a good first run for a new concept in hamfests. The presentations I did attend were informative, even if some of the videos weren't of the highest quality. This may be a good option to add to traditional hamfests, when the pandemic clears and we can go back to doing things in person. I don't see this as a replacement for traditional hamfests, but it would be nice if I could see one or two forums from Dayton, say, even if I don't have the money or time to go to Ohio for the fun and games myself. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On 8/21/20 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. > > It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. > > This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) > > Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nv4c.ian at gmail.com From macymonkeys at charter.net Sun Aug 23 11:07:07 2020 From: macymonkeys at charter.net (Macy monkeys) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <4a5ef16b-3fe0-48ba-521e-895b35ce9839@gmail.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> <4a5ef16b-3fe0-48ba-521e-895b35ce9839@gmail.com> Message-ID: <391890C0-ACCD-4BC5-8519-DC1165BCDD52@charter.net> As far as my visit to the virtual hamfest, all I know is I miss the good old days already. John K7FD > On Aug 23, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C wrote: > > While I enjoyed the Virtual Ham Expo, there were some aspects I thought could be improved. I sent this feedback to Eric Guth via the feedback survey I received not long after the Expo closed. > > * Like everyone else who has responded so far, I enjoyed Eric's demo > of the K4. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the K4 kits so > I can order and build mine. I'm even getting my work area prepared > already, for something I know is still probably 6-8 months out. > * I really liked Wayne's presentation on the architecture of the KX3. > It was really neat to have the chief designer of the product show > us, component-by-component, how it was designed. > * The gamification of the door prizes needs to go away. As has been > said here before, and I'm sure to Eric G., ad nauseum - it penalizes > those who actually want to enjoy the presentations and those who > can't spend all 48 hours of the Expo going to the vendors' booths > and the on-line lounge. And, it only encourages bad behavior, as the > Expo organizers quickly discovered. > * Users should be able to enter the presentations a few minutes early. > By only allowing us to enter at the exact moment the forum started, > it was possible to miss part of the presentation due to latency or > other technical issues. > * Since all the initial presentations were prerecorded, they should be > available for viewing any time after the initial presentation is > given. Nobody is good enough to be in multiple places at once, even > virtually. And, some very good presentations overlapped with each other. > * Check the videos for quality well before the Expo begins. I attended > the Carole Perry Youth Forum, because two of the presenters belong > to my radio club. Carole's intro was well worth the time, but she > was so animated in her speaking style that her web cam kept trying > to refocus. I was getting motion sick from it. > * The vendor area should be more than just links to the vendors' web > sites. If that's all you're giving me, aside from the chat, why > should I bother using the vendor area? I can just go to the web > sites myself. > * The vendor area needs to be easier to navigate. The button to exit > each booth to the "hallway" outside the booth was not prominent > enough. I didn't even know it was there until the end of the day > Saturday. I kept ending up back at the "front door" to the vendor arena. > > All this being said, I think it was a good first run for a new concept in hamfests. The presentations I did attend were informative, even if some of the videos weren't of the highest quality. This may be a good option to add to traditional hamfests, when the pandemic clears and we can go back to doing things in person. I don't see this as a replacement for traditional hamfests, but it would be nice if I could see one or two forums from Dayton, say, even if I don't have the money or time to go to Ohio for the fun and games myself. > > 73 de, > > Ian, NV4C > > >> On 8/21/20 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. >> >> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. >> >> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) >> >> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nv4c.ian at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to macymonkeys at charter.net From n4zr at comcast.net Sun Aug 23 11:56:47 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 11:56:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question Message-ID: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.? This worked fine for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.? When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away. Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in the mike? -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. From radiok4ia at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 12:01:45 2020 From: radiok4ia at gmail.com (Buck) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:01:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> References: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7c231db3-b51f-8214-bd61-8b3abc554e77@Gmail.com> I would suspect a Windoze update scrambled your sound assignments. Go back and check all your settings. k4ia, Buck K3s# 11497 Honor Roll 8B DXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote: > Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with > my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and > feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.? This worked fine for a couple of > weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my > radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, > which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp > to full output.? When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem > goes away. > > Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in > the mike? > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 23 12:41:10 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:41:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> References: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1e708c29-66f7-19e2-94dd-01ca356deb67@embarqmail.com> Set MIC SEL to RPL BIAS. You do not need the high gain amp with that mic. It is likely producing feedback as you have it set. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote: > Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with > my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and > feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.? This worked fine for a couple of > weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my > radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, > which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp > to full output.? When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem > goes away. > From stuff at ahebden.com Sun Aug 23 12:44:34 2020 From: stuff at ahebden.com (Andrew Hebden) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 17:44:34 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> References: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001901d6796c$ae74b000$0b5e1000$@ahebden.com> Hi, Sounds a bit like RF getting into the mic line. Does it happen when running into a dummy load? I use a Koss headset like this with no problems. Andrew G8BYB -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of N4ZR Sent: 23 August 2020 16:57 To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack. This worked fine for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output. When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away. Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in the mike? -- 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to stuff at ahebden.com From w1srd at yahoo.com Sun Aug 23 13:15:08 2020 From: w1srd at yahoo.com (Steve Dyer W1SRD) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 10:15:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Non Working KSB2 + KSB2 MOD KIT In-Reply-To: <37e59fca-ed38-4950-0e8f-bf3c611e9f17@yahoo.com> References: <37e59fca-ed38-4950-0e8f-bf3c611e9f17.ref@yahoo.com> <37e59fca-ed38-4950-0e8f-bf3c611e9f17@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50c069fa-f861-82c8-8677-4392ddecff32@yahoo.com> Sold. 73, Steve W1SRD > It doesn't work. I don't know why. It has all components installed. > It was years ago and I was in KH6 for work. It was faster for me to > build another KSB2 (they were a lot cheaper then!) so I could get on > the air quickly. > Old style crystals. Firmware 1.04. D1 and D2 have one lead lifted > probably as part of troubleshooting. > Includes new PSK-31 upgrade mod kit still in the bag. > Yours for $50 plus $10 postage USPS Priority mail. > Sold AS-IS. > 73, > Steve > W1SRD > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w1srd at yahoo.com From radio at disseminator.net Sun Aug 23 13:15:46 2020 From: radio at disseminator.net (Dave Erickson) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:15:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: <7c231db3-b51f-8214-bd61-8b3abc554e77@Gmail.com> References: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> <7c231db3-b51f-8214-bd61-8b3abc554e77@Gmail.com> Message-ID: <8edf69b6-69c2-b57f-21b4-5d141839c5bc@disseminator.net> This just happened to me. I heard a screeching whine when hitting transmit in ft8, turns out the recent update reset all my sound assignments. 73 On 8/23/2020 11:01 AM, Buck wrote: > I would suspect a Windoze update scrambled your sound assignments.? Go > back and check all your settings. > > k4ia, Buck > K3s# 11497 > Honor Roll? 8B DXCC > EasyWayHamBooks.com > > On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote: >> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 >> with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound >> card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.? This worked fine for >> a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white >> noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC >> SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain >> setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.? When I pull the mike >> plug out of the jack, the problem goes away. >> >> Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure >> in the mike? >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radio at disseminator.net -- Dave Erickson k0dom 73 From oldmanshu at icloud.com Sun Aug 23 13:47:02 2020 From: oldmanshu at icloud.com (Joseph Shuman) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:47:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: I watched a few track presentations as well as all the sponsor events. Elecraft?s were excellent. I found most of the other companies presentations to be much lower in quality. One demonstration of a product was 30 minutes of interface on a touchscreen that was unreadable and unfocused in the presentation. The overall virtual conference interface was unnecessarily over-animated and thus slow over cell phone data streaming (I was camping at the time). The track videos I watched were better produced by the individual presenters than most companies, and most had good technical advice to pique my interest. Thanks to Elecraft for the opportunity to interface during the KX2 ?X-Ray.? I am hearing impaired and was sincerely impressed that this company was willing to look at the possibility of incorporating Bluetooth hearing aid connectivity to their radios as a future opportunity for SSB. The time-delay inherent in Bluetooth for use with CW was something I never considered and I appreciated the tech details provided. Regarding the contest I will make no public statement regarding my communications with the convention?s organizers. There was, eventually, a public posted comment that only ONE gamer was identified and removed. During the first few days of the post ?live? session I intentionally acquired enough points, playing the ?game,? to be at least 3rd on the board for that day, but never showed up. So much for that. Maybe Elecraft should simply host their own virtual event. The only incentive I need is to be a better Ham, both technically and operationally. Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ From w3tb.ted at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 14:20:13 2020 From: w3tb.ted at gmail.com (Ted Edwards W3TB) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:20:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary Message-ID: I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO Party so that I can go rover/expeditionary. With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at full power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and taking the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this time. Thanks to all who might respond. -- 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW and thinking about operating CW: "Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't." From k1ep.list at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 14:32:06 2020 From: k1ep.list at gmail.com (Ed K1EP) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:32:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You could do that. I wouldn't advise it for other reasons. Why don't you measure the current at different power levels when on a power supply? There is a current display on the radio. The cigarette plug is not directly connected to the battery. There is likely to be poor connections resulting in IR losses and other problems. On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 14:22 Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: > I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO Party > so that I can go rover/expeditionary. > > With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which > appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at full > power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and taking > the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? > > In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this time. > Thanks to all who might respond. > > -- > 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW > > and thinking about operating CW: > "Do today what others won't, > so you can do tomorrow what others can't." > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k1ep.list at gmail.com From kd4iz at frawg.org Sun Aug 23 14:33:55 2020 From: kd4iz at frawg.org (kd4iz at frawg.org) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:33:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: <15c401d6797b$f613f650$e23be2f0$@frawg.org> Ham Expo is an "OK" idea for the "time of COVID", but not a replacement for the live convention or hamfest. I quickly found that the design of the virtual event does fit not my way of learning or operating. I will not specifically address the Elecraft presentations except to say they were much better than most. 1. A few "venues"/talks were great, too many were purely canned promo that I neither needed nor wanted hear again. Other talks were presentations rehashed. Overall there was a startling lack of really new content. 2. It was not possible to "walk around and discover" - the essential small businesses, the idea creators, hobby/business makers, and boneyard folks were not there. 3. Meeting people (particularly new people) in yet another virtual room is not the way to spend a weekend after weeks of Zoom and GoToMeeting teleconferences. Nothing meets the organized or chance in-person encounter. 4. "Influencer" style YouTuber blather really turns me off. I need something to think through and evaluate... unfortunately that has become a norm to some presenters. Many thanks to those who presented material designed to stimulate thought. 5. Commercial venues were "OK". The front end presentation was too "cartoony". Some MFG did better than others in their "in booth" presentations. The cartoony booths were inevitable result of low end virtual technology trying to look like real life... but virtual booths have been there in professional conference and trade show apps for years - it felt stale to me. 6. Agree with the many other comments about the "contest" style promotionals. Organizers need to "go back" to the registration lottery. Forced competition to participate is a symptom of the illness in "radio-sport" - when everything becomes centered on "bragging rights" the braggarts take over. 7. Person hardest issue to deal with was being asked sitting in front of a yet another computer screen for an additional 12 to 18 hours at the end of a rough online week. I have picked a few venues I heard were good and spent time listening to those. My Bottom Line: I won't bother next year without hearing of some significant improvements, particularly an added opportunity for interaction with presenters. Unfortunately mine is a generally negative assessment. The Real Bottom Lines: -How many of the participants actually stayed through during most of the active online event (or spent the 12-18 hours afterwards reviewing it). My guess is a small fraction of those who registered. -Did the sponsors see any significant ROI or did most of it go to the committee that put the Expo together and the virtual convention company that produced it. That last "real bottom line" will tell the tale and probably dictate the future of this event. Jack - KD4IZ From gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com Sun Aug 23 14:55:31 2020 From: gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com (George Thornton) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:55:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Concur. The K3 can in my experience be vulnerable to voltage drop which can happen with a questionable power source. For a rig like the K3 you should draw straight from the battery. You can add some additional protection in a mobile setup by incorporating a voltage regulator In the circuit just before the K3. -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Ed K1EP Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:32 AM To: Ted Edwards W3TB Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary You could do that. I wouldn't advise it for other reasons. Why don't you measure the current at different power levels when on a power supply? There is a current display on the radio. The cigarette plug is not directly connected to the battery. There is likely to be poor connections resulting in IR losses and other problems. On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 14:22 Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: > I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO > Party so that I can go rover/expeditionary. > > With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which > appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at > full power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and > taking the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? > > In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this time. > Thanks to all who might respond. > > -- > 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW > > and thinking about operating CW: > "Do today what others won't, > so you can do tomorrow what others can't." > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > k1ep.list at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthornton at thorntonmostullaw.com From rick.nk7i at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 16:15:45 2020 From: rick.nk7i at gmail.com (Rick NK7I) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:15:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0560d089-a99a-ad9f-ba26-f881cc6f9f25@gmail.com> Not only is the accessory circuit shared with others, it is often loaded with noises from the electronics in the vehicle.? They can harm both your RX and TX signals. It takes a little time to run #12 ROMEX (with 40 or 50 A mobile, self-resetting circuit breakers at the battery to protect the wire, fuses for radios AT the radios; both positive and negative) but the returns are worth it.? You'll have to remember to turn the K3 OFF each time you start the engine; the wandering voltage could cause harm or scramble the settings.? Also bond to chassis AT the K3 to keep some RFI down... *IF* you have a newer vehicle that measures current draw and charging rate at the battery (sometimes via the negative pole), you'll want to use that sensor point for negative connection; not at the battery. That's the super quick description, to start a foundation of proper set up. 73, Rick NK7I On 8/23/2020 11:32 AM, Ed K1EP wrote: > You could do that. I wouldn't advise it for other reasons. Why don't you > measure the current at different power levels when on a power supply? There > is a current display on the radio. The cigarette plug is not directly > connected to the battery. There is likely to be poor connections resulting > in IR losses and other problems. > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 14:22 Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: > >> I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO Party >> so that I can go rover/expeditionary. >> >> With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which >> appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at full >> power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and taking >> the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? >> >> In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this time. >> Thanks to all who might respond. >> >> -- >> 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW >> >> and thinking about operating CW: >> "Do today what others won't, >> so you can do tomorrow what others can't." >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k1ep.list at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.nk7i at gmail.com From w5sv.dave at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 16:50:25 2020 From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 15:50:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants Message-ID: <3C12CAC3-E64C-4346-9C69-62E0A03A7BC9@gmail.com> I think the Ham Expo was a good idea for our current times but I do not see it as a permanent replacement for the in person events. Perhaps going forward, the in person events could have a remote access side like Ham Expo. I particularly enjoyed the Elecraft sessions, much more than the others; they seem to have thought the format through better and also more interesting subject matter (to me at least). I also liked not being crowded out of hearing a good show. 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed From ai4ns.mike at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 18:42:50 2020 From: ai4ns.mike at gmail.com (Mike Short) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 17:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: <0560d089-a99a-ad9f-ba26-f881cc6f9f25@gmail.com> References: <0560d089-a99a-ad9f-ba26-f881cc6f9f25@gmail.com> Message-ID: Go to K0BG.com and read everything. His site is probably the best resource on the internet for mobile operations. Mike On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 3:17 PM Rick NK7I wrote: > Not only is the accessory circuit shared with others, it is often loaded > with noises from the electronics in the vehicle. They can harm both > your RX and TX signals. > > It takes a little time to run #12 ROMEX (with 40 or 50 A mobile, > self-resetting circuit breakers at the battery to protect the wire, > fuses for radios AT the radios; both positive and negative) but the > returns are worth it. You'll have to remember to turn the K3 OFF each > time you start the engine; the wandering voltage could cause harm or > scramble the settings. Also bond to chassis AT the K3 to keep some RFI > down... > > *IF* you have a newer vehicle that measures current draw and charging > rate at the battery (sometimes via the negative pole), you'll want to > use that sensor point for negative connection; not at the battery. > > That's the super quick description, to start a foundation of proper set up. > > 73, > Rick NK7I > > > > > >> I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO > Party > >> so that I can go rover/expeditionary. > >> > >> With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which > >> appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at > full > >> power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and taking > >> the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? > >> > >> In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this > time. > >> Thanks to all who might respond. > >> > >> -- > >> 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW > > From hsherriff at reagan.com Sun Aug 23 20:15:00 2020 From: hsherriff at reagan.com (Harlan Sherriff) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:15:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Complete shack minus antenna and mic Message-ID: <4DE29F3D-399D-423A-902A-135E67D728F6@reagan.com> FS: A complete shack minus the antenna and mic. KAT500 tuner KPA500 amplifier K3 100W with: 2nd receiver Both with: 2.7 kHz filter 200 Hz filter FM band filter KAT3 ATU KXV3A Rx ant, IFOut, Xvtr interface K144XV REFLOCK K3EXREF Ext 10MHz ref input KTCK03. 1ppm crystal KBPF3 General coverage receiver P3 P3SVGA option P3 xmtr monitor option With: 1.8-54 MHz 2000 W coupler 144-450 200 W coupler Astron RS-35A power supply Genovation CP-48 control pad Over $8000 new. Take it for $5000. Only caveat is you have to come pick it up. Central SC. Contact me off list. Sent from my iPhone From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun Aug 23 22:06:37 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 19:06:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] N. CA Fires: Elecraft facility and employees are OK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We're being warned about air quality here in Tucson. Wes? N7WS On 8/22/2020 2:33 PM, kevinr wrote: > If you want to see where the smoke is being generated you can go here: > > https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES17/ABI/SECTOR/wus/GEOCOLOR/20202352100_GOES17-ABI-wus-GEOCOLOR-4000x4000.jpg > > > Smoke is filling all of central and northern California.? There are only a few > fires in Oregon east of the Cascades. > > Good luck, > > ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 23 23:08:18 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:08:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: <8edf69b6-69c2-b57f-21b4-5d141839c5bc@disseminator.net> References: <8edf69b6-69c2-b57f-21b4-5d141839c5bc@disseminator.net> Message-ID: A CM-500 does not need RPH bias mic settings it is a high output element and RPL bias will do fine with mic gain beteeen 10-20 (I use 17). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 23, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dave Erickson wrote: > > ?This just happened to me. I heard a screeching whine when hitting transmit in ft8, turns out the recent update reset all my sound assignments. > > 73 > >> On 8/23/2020 11:01 AM, Buck wrote: >> I would suspect a Windoze update scrambled your sound assignments. Go back and check all your settings. >> >> k4ia, Buck >> K3s# 11497 >> Honor Roll 8B DXCC >> EasyWayHamBooks.com >> >>> On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote: >>> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack. This worked fine for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output. When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away. >>> >>> Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in the mike? >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to radio at disseminator.net > > -- > Dave Erickson > k0dom > 73 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From kevinr at coho.net Mon Aug 24 00:30:03 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: Good Evening, ?? Conditions were fair on both bands.? QSB was about three to four S units with a medium noise level on 20 m.? I expected summer storms but heard no lightning strikes.? Forty meters was more local with a smaller range of QSB.? As the days grow shorter I expect 0045z will work better.? It is surprising how fast the year is passing even though we are stuck at home.? Now to collect enough wood to be cozy all winter. Hot and dry was the common weather report.? Some areas are hotter than others.? The duplex spell checking mode on the K3 was discussed.? Close encounters with a clipper was another subject. Smoke, lightning, and fire were also concerns.? The old ways are better.? I find it easier to count down accurately on a clock with hands.? Using a digital clock, while most of my attention is out the window on the forest, leads to incorrect results.? I did get the ten minute mark correct though :) ? On 14050.75 kHz at 2200z: NO8V - John - MI K4TO - Dave - KY K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6XK - Roy - IA K4JPN - Steve - GA KL7CW - Rick - AK ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0045z: W6JHB - Jim - CA K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6PJV - Dale - CA WM5F - Dwight - ID ?? I need to build a few more antennas.? It feels good, I have enough parts, and the weather is perfect for raising the lines.? A dipole cut for the lower end of 40 meters would be good.? And a resonant 160 m dipole would be good for when the snow is blowing. This should be our last quiet winter for a while, as cycle 25 wakes up and takes over.? I think it would be fun to explore 160 meters CW operations.? My 100 watts should qualify as QRP on that band. ?? Until next week, stay safe and avoid as much smoke as you can, 73, ??????? Kevin.? KD5ONS - From n4zr at comcast.net Mon Aug 24 07:52:32 2020 From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:52:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: <7d873482-32af-42ee-bde2-b514822e573d@embarqmail.com> References: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> <1e708c29-66f7-19e2-94dd-01ca356deb67@embarqmail.com> <7d873482-32af-42ee-bde2-b514822e573d@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Egads, who knew? Clearly not me.? Of course, my K3 is relatively early, and I didn't download the latest manual until this year.? Thanks, Don! Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at , now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 8/23/2020 11:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Pete, > > Go to the MIC SEL menu and tap 1 to toggle between the high gain mic > preamp and the low gain. > See page 52 of a more recent manual. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/23/2020 9:55 PM, N4ZR wrote: >> >> Don, I do not have a RPL bias option under Mic Sel.? Only RPH, FPH >> and Line IN >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR >> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network >> at, now >> spotting RTTY activity worldwide. >> For spots, please use your favorite >> "retail" DX cluster. >> On 8/23/2020 12:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> Set MIC SEL to RPL BIAS.? You do not need the high gain amp with >>> that mic.? It is likely producing feedback as you have it set. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote: >>>> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 >>>> with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound >>>> card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.? This worked fine >>>> for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud >>>> white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I >>>> have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC >>>> gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.? When I pull the >>>> mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away. >>>> > From w2up at comcast.net Mon Aug 24 08:32:27 2020 From: w2up at comcast.net (Barry) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:32:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Rear Mike Jack Question In-Reply-To: References: <139dd3c3-3da6-7e14-5ab4-c666161c8e8c@comcast.net> <1e708c29-66f7-19e2-94dd-01ca356deb67@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <1598272347041-0.post@n2.nabble.com> On a semi-related note, I don't understand why manufacturers continue to put a mic jack, with its overly bulky mating connector, on the front panel. It always gets in the way. Barry W21UP -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From KY5G at montac.com Mon Aug 24 10:27:21 2020 From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:27:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> IF it were me, I would run two NEW, 10GA or better high strand count wires (twisted by hand or drill) from the battery to the cabin with appropriate fuses in BOTH POS and NEG lines, and the Anderson PP connector on the end. Ideally, I would also put a SPST switch in the POS (my pref), or a DPST switch across both leads so that I could turn the power off there for connection purposes (optional). This gives you the ability to 1) power the K3 with Key off, engine off if desired, and 2) gives you a big, shortest run dedicated to the radio. Additionally, it gives you a twisted pair, AND the ability to put chokes wherever you might need them to quiet down the power source from possible noise from the vehicle. 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 08/23/20 13:32, Ed K1EP wrote: > You could do that. I wouldn't advise it for other reasons. Why don't you > measure the current at different power levels when on a power supply? There > is a current display on the radio. The cigarette plug is not directly > connected to the battery. There is likely to be poor connections resulting > in IR losses and other problems. > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 14:22 Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: > >> I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO Party >> so that I can go rover/expeditionary. >> >> With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which >> appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at full >> power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and taking >> the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? >> >> In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this time. >> Thanks to all who might respond. >> >> -- >> 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW >> >> and thinking about operating CW: >> "Do today what others won't, >> so you can do tomorrow what others can't." >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k1ep.list at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com From ai4ns.mike at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 11:11:41 2020 From: ai4ns.mike at gmail.com (Mike Short) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 10:11:41 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> Message-ID: Twisting the wires doesn?t do anything. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 09:28 Clay Autery wrote: > IF it were me, I would run two NEW, 10GA or better high strand count > > wires (twisted by hand or drill) from the battery to the cabin with > > appropriate fuses in BOTH POS and NEG lines, and the Anderson PP > > connector on the end. > > Ideally, I would also put a SPST switch in the POS (my pref), or a DPST > > switch across both leads so that I could turn the power off there for > > connection purposes (optional). > > > > This gives you the ability to 1) power the K3 with Key off, engine off > > if desired, and 2) gives you a big, shortest run dedicated to the radio. > > Additionally, it gives you a twisted pair, AND the ability to put chokes > > wherever you might need them to quiet down the power source from > > possible noise from the vehicle. > > > > 73, > > > > ______________________ > > Clay Autery, KY5G > > (318) 518-1389 > > > > On 08/23/20 13:32, Ed K1EP wrote: > > > You could do that. I wouldn't advise it for other reasons. Why don't you > > > measure the current at different power levels when on a power supply? > There > > > is a current display on the radio. The cigarette plug is not directly > > > connected to the battery. There is likely to be poor connections > resulting > > > in IR losses and other problems. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 14:22 Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: > > > > > >> I am planning to put my K3 in the car for the upcoming Tennessee QSO > Party > > >> so that I can go rover/expeditionary. > > >> > > >> With that comes a question: Powering from that accessory socket which > > >> appears limited to 15 amps instead of the 20 amps that the K3 wants at > full > > >> power, do I understand right that reducing to 50 watts output and taking > > >> the -3dB will work out in terms of power draw? > > >> > > >> In the past, I have done QRP and would like to be a bit louder this > time. > > >> Thanks to all who might respond. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW > > >> > > >> and thinking about operating CW: > > >> "Do today what others won't, > > >> so you can do tomorrow what others can't." > > >> ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> Message delivered to k1ep.list at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ai4ns.mike at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 24 11:23:26 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:23:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> Message-ID: On 8/24/2020 8:11 AM, Mike Short wrote: > Twisting the wires doesn?t do anything. Au contraire! Twisting provides an excellent rejection of of crosstalk, including RFI. Have you not noticed that CAT5/6/7 cables are four tightly twisted pairs, each with a slightly different twist ratio, all very well engineered to minimize crosstalk between them? Twisted pair has been widely used in pro audio for a century. Beginning with the earliest days of telephony, their cables were run on the same poles as AC, with a crossover every other pole to provide the twist (the only rejection needed was at 60 Hz, 50 Hz in EU). Those who make and sell zip cord, glorified or otherwise, as speaker cable are ignorant of this. When I lived in Chicago, I solved a lot of RFI to home stereo systems by replacing such with twisted pair. 73, Jim K9YC From albin.stigo at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 11:35:39 2020 From: albin.stigo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QWxiaW4gU3RpZ8O2?=) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:35:39 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 latching relays and filter alignment Message-ID: Hi, I'm in the process of repairing a K2 I've inherited from Clemed SM6DRH who sadly passed away earlier this year at age 90. It didn't receive/transmit on 40m and I've identified the problem to be a defect ("stuck in the middle") relay K12 (bandpass select relay). The relay in question is an Omron G6HU-2 5VDC. These are kind of hard to find these days so I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find them (preferably in the EU) or a suitable replacement? While I'm at it I was thinking about re-aligning all the filters using a spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. I'm wondering if anyone has developed a procedure for this, ie where it's good to inject the TG signal and where it's good to measure. Sincerely, Albin SM6WJM From ai4ns.mike at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 12:03:18 2020 From: ai4ns.mike at gmail.com (Mike Short) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:03:18 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> Message-ID: RFI on audio, agreed. Noise on DC, not so much. Routing is the most important factor for DC power. It is hard to get enough turns on the proper size wire to make a difference. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:24 AM Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/24/2020 8:11 AM, Mike Short wrote: > > Twisting the wires doesn?t do anything. > > Au contraire! Twisting provides an excellent rejection of of crosstalk, > including RFI. Have you not noticed that CAT5/6/7 cables are four > tightly twisted pairs, each with a slightly different twist ratio, all > very well engineered to minimize crosstalk between them? Twisted pair > has been widely used in pro audio for a century. Beginning with the > earliest days of telephony, their cables were run on the same poles as > AC, with a crossover every other pole to provide the twist (the only > rejection needed was at 60 Hz, 50 Hz in EU). > > Those who make and sell zip cord, glorified or otherwise, as speaker > cable are ignorant of this. When I lived in Chicago, I solved a lot of > RFI to home stereo systems by replacing such with twisted pair. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ai4ns.mike at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 24 12:24:51 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:24:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: <5f43e112.1c69fb81.4d176.84d6@mx.google.com> References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> <5f43e112.1c69fb81.4d176.84d6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Of course it applies. Mother nature does not pay attention to what we CALL things. It is quite common for DC and mains power to carry AF and RF currents. That's how most noise is radiated -- as a common mode signal on cables connected to equipment that includes noise sources. BTW -- as Vice-Chair of AES Standards Committee for 20 years, I HAVE studied this stuff extensively, along with colleagues around the world with excellent engineering chops. 73, Jim K9YC On 8/24/2020 8:47 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > Well...this reply covers a lot of ground. We are addressing power lines running DC, not signal lines with high freq signals? Even audio moves the question from DC to audio frequencies. I have seen coupling of AC to very long DC signal wires (current loop or voltage sensors, such as RTD), but I am addressing hundreds of meters. I have not looked at the effect for shorter wires running essentially DC, in an environment where there are high freq signals to couple. But then, I included the inline filter from the start, so I don't know if it did any good or not. For $30 (I think?), it was not worth thinking about. I'm familiar with twisting, crosstalk, etc, for signals, but not sure that it translates to DC power supplies of short length. From n7wy at rocketmail.com Mon Aug 24 12:54:42 2020 From: n7wy at rocketmail.com (Robert Rennard) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 10:54:42 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FS K3-100 Message-ID: K3 100 watt transceiver #0734 with ATU, 400 Hz 8 Pole Filter for CW, 2700 Hz 5 pole filter for SSB & digital; 6 foot red/black power lead with PowerPole connector. NO sub-receiver, NO DVK, NO general coverage module, NO transverter, NO KUSB cable, NO microphone Factory serviced for low noise synthesizer upgrade, updated DSP, latest transverter interface with preamp 2 for 6-12 meters, lower noise TCXO, Gold pins and many other updates. Extensive details and pictures on QRZ swap meet. Always operated within a non-smoking, air conditioned environment; never operated mobile or in a field day tent. Very clean inside and out. Never failed me in 10 years! Asking $1432 plus shipping USA only. Bob R ? N7WY From neilz at techie.com Mon Aug 24 13:02:22 2020 From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:02:22 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 latching relays and filter alignment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e14707b-196d-15f2-33a1-316f3d749e65@techie.com> Albin, Elecraft does have these relays.?? I had to replace one in my K2, and I ordered via the website. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/24/2020 10:35 AM, Albin Stig? wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in the process of repairing a K2 I've inherited from Clemed SM6DRH > who sadly passed away earlier this year at age 90. > > It didn't receive/transmit on 40m and I've identified the problem to > be a defect ("stuck in the middle") relay K12 (bandpass select relay). > The relay in question is an Omron G6HU-2 5VDC. These are kind of hard > to find these days so I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find > them (preferably in the EU) or a suitable replacement? > > While I'm at it I was thinking about re-aligning all the filters using > a spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. I'm wondering if anyone > has developed a procedure for this, ie where it's good to inject the > TG signal and where it's good to measure. > > > Sincerely, > Albin SM6WJM > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Aug 24 13:15:57 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:15:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 latching relays and filter alignment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Albin, The relay manufacturer has changed since Omron stopped making them. The new relays are made by another manufacturer (Kettering if I recall correctly). Contact Elecraft to find ordering details on the new relays, or order from Elecraft. Since the "filter alignmment" consists of setting the filter width and then adjusting the BFO to place it properly with respect to the filter center, rather then actual alignment of the filter itself, the best tools are an audio spectrum analyzer to observe the audio and a wideband noise generator to inject RF into the antenna jack. The audio spectrum analyzer may be a soundcard program such as Specctrogram or SpectrumLab running on the computer. Take the audio output either from the headphone jack or the External Speaker jack. If a wideband noise source is not available, you can use 'dead band' noise from an antenna - make certain there are no actual signals. A spectrum analyzer and tracking generator will not work well unless you can set the analyzer for audio wile the tracking generator is at RF. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/24/2020 11:35 AM, Albin Stig? wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in the process of repairing a K2 I've inherited from Clemed SM6DRH > who sadly passed away earlier this year at age 90. > > It didn't receive/transmit on 40m and I've identified the problem to > be a defect ("stuck in the middle") relay K12 (bandpass select relay). > The relay in question is an Omron G6HU-2 5VDC. These are kind of hard > to find these days so I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find > them (preferably in the EU) or a suitable replacement? > > While I'm at it I was thinking about re-aligning all the filters using > a spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator. I'm wondering if anyone > has developed a procedure for this, ie where it's good to inject the > TG signal and where it's good to measure. > From hlyingst at yahoo.com Mon Aug 24 13:29:18 2020 From: hlyingst at yahoo.com (Harry Yingst) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] IC with Tin leads and Machined Pin Gold Sockets ? References: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386@mail.yahoo.com> I've read various points of view from don't do it to it's OK.But I don't recall ever reading a 100% definitive answer So does anyone know the real answer? Thank you ? From w4sc at windstream.net Mon Aug 24 13:41:48 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:41:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 latching relays and filter alignment Message-ID: <6A.00.22812.ADBF34F5@smtp04.aqua.bos.sync.lan> This relay is shown as a direct replacement on the Digikey website.? Panasonic? TQ2-L-5V. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/omron-electronics-inc-emc-div/G6HU-2-DC5/Z3031-ND/369201 One may have better success in finding the Panasonic part in Eu.? Elecraft service may be able to verify the part as a good replacement. 73 de Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From kevin at ve3syb.ca Mon Aug 24 13:52:14 2020 From: kevin at ve3syb.ca (Kevin Cozens) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:52:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] IC with Tin leads and Machined Pin Gold Sockets ? In-Reply-To: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386@mail.yahoo.com> References: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <483063588.6779325.1598290158386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2020-08-24 1:29 p.m., Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I've read various points of view from don't do it to it's OK. I think the people that say "don't do it" may be concerned about the dissimilar metals being in contact with each other and what problems that might cause. The issue shouldn't be any different from other socket types that use something other than tin for the contacts. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick From gene.sochor at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 24 14:12:05 2020 From: gene.sochor at sbcglobal.net (Gene Sochor) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:12:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Pignology Piglet and PigKnob References: <4b80ca13-70d9-91d1-5bf5-765031b0dca1.ref@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4b80ca13-70d9-91d1-5bf5-765031b0dca1@sbcglobal.net> First call for this list. New In Box, never used, prefer to sell together but will consider splitting package: Piglet wireless rig interface and PigKnob remote tuning knob, $125 ($225 value) All documentation available on Pignology.Net website. Shipping included within USA. Gene N9SW From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Aug 24 14:13:56 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] IC with Tin leads and Machined Pin Gold Sockets ? In-Reply-To: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386@mail.yahoo.com> References: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <483063588.6779325.1598290158386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Harry, Unless it is the machined pin sockets which exclude air, the "don't do it" folks win. Elecraft had problems with that in the K3 which lead to them sending many gold-plated pins out for replacement. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/24/2020 1:29 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I've read various points of view from don't do it to it's OK.But I don't recall ever reading a 100% definitive answer > So does anyone know the real answer? > Thank you From w3tb.ted at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 14:56:45 2020 From: w3tb.ted at gmail.com (Ted Edwards W3TB) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:56:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> <5f43e112.1c69fb81.4d176.84d6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: My thanks to everybody. It is rather overwhelming for just a Sunday afternoon of portable operation in remote counties powered by the car. I will really want to keep simple in those terms. Reading through all this several times. Thanks to all who contributed. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 11:26 AM Jim Brown wrote: > Of course it applies. Mother nature does not pay attention to what we > CALL things. It is quite common for DC and mains power to carry AF and > RF currents. That's how most noise is radiated -- as a common mode > signal on cables connected to equipment that includes noise sources. > > BTW -- as Vice-Chair of AES Standards Committee for 20 years, I HAVE > studied this stuff extensively, along with colleagues around the world > with excellent engineering chops. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On 8/24/2020 8:47 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > > Well...this reply covers a lot of ground. We are addressing power lines > running DC, not signal lines with high freq signals? Even audio moves the > question from DC to audio frequencies. I have seen coupling of AC to very > long DC signal wires (current loop or voltage sensors, such as RTD), but I > am addressing hundreds of meters. I have not looked at the effect for > shorter wires running essentially DC, in an environment where there are > high freq signals to couple. But then, I included the inline filter from > the start, so I don't know if it did any good or not. For $30 (I think?), > it was not worth thinking about. I'm familiar with twisting, crosstalk, > etc, for signals, but not sure that it translates to DC power supplies of > short length. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w3tb.ted at gmail.com > -- 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW and thinking about operating CW: "Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't." From hlyingst at yahoo.com Mon Aug 24 15:00:41 2020 From: hlyingst at yahoo.com (Harry Yingst) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] IC with Tin leads and Machined Pin Gold Sockets ? In-Reply-To: References: <483063588.6779325.1598290158386.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <483063588.6779325.1598290158386@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1382257144.6853645.1598295641281@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you On Monday, August 24, 2020, 02:13:58 PM EDT, Don Wilhelm wrote: Harry, Unless it is the machined pin sockets which exclude air, the "don't do it" folks win. Elecraft had problems with that in the K3 which lead to them sending many gold-plated pins out for replacement. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/24/2020 1:29 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I've read various points of view from don't do it to it's OK.But I don't recall ever reading a 100% definitive answer > So does anyone know the real answer? > Thank you From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 24 16:04:02 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:04:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> <5f43e112.1c69fb81.4d176.84d6@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <59065b7e-0052-a301-7116-f78ab0768ffa@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/24/2020 11:56 AM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: > My thanks to everybody. > It is rather overwhelming for just a Sunday afternoon of portable > operation in remote counties powered by the car. > I will really want to keep simple in those terms. In that contest, I'd simply use smaller gauge twisted pair. 73, Jim K9YC From 99sunset at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 18:01:56 2020 From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary Message-ID: I highly recommend you run a power lead to the battery (ideally) or the main power bus in the car interior rather than tap off the limited accessory socket. Keep well under the fuse rating that feeds the accessory plug if you go that route. Steve WM6P From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 24 18:40:32 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:40:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94726f50-4dbd-d515-f94c-50b011fd8b17@audiosystemsgroup.com> Yes, and this should definitely be twisted pair, contrary to what's on a highly regarded mobile site. Also, radio equipment in vehicles should NOT by bonded to the frame/chassis/vehicle metal. OTOH, coax return for HF mobile antennas SHOULD be bonded to vehicle metal, because that's what serves as its counterpoise (often called a ground plane). BTW -- a major obstacle to this being a good ground plane is that the metal parts of many (most?) vehicles are insulated from each other by paint. An ohmmeter study between parts of the chassis is a worthwhile effort. 73, Jim K9YC On 8/24/2020 3:01 PM, Steve Hall wrote: > I highly recommend you run a power lead to the battery (ideally) or the > main power bus in the car interior rather than tap off the limited > accessory socket. Keep well under the fuse rating that feeds the > accessory plug if you go that route. > Steve WM6P > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jim at audiosystemsgroup.com > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Aug 24 18:45:34 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:45:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> Message-ID: On 8/24/2020 9:03 AM, Mike Short wrote: > RFI on audio, agreed. Noise on DC, not so much. Routing is the most > important factor for DC power. It is hard to get enough turns on the > proper size wire to make a difference. Yes, routing is important. But what you're missing is that a major issue is RF getting into the vehicle's computers, and the RF noise from those computers getting into our DC wiring. I learned this the hard way with my 2006 big Toyota SUV. Calling CQ barefoot on 20M SSB put the car's computer into "limp-home" mode in the NV high desert. Had to disconnect main battery terminals to reboot the computer to get home. 73, Jim K9YC From n7cqr at arrl.net Mon Aug 24 19:33:09 2020 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:33:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 plexiglass Message-ID: Hi folks-got a bit of an unusual issue with the plexiglass readout cover for my KX2. I use it a lot portable and SOTA and on an activation last week noticed that I had a few tiny interlopers crawling underneath the covering adding moving symbols to the display:)). After inspecting I noted that the plexiglass has slightly warped and bows up in the middle just enough to let the occasional spider mite or piece of vegetation to slip under the glass. I could put a small bead of caulk I guess but it?s such a small gap. Probably the result of having the radio outside a lot in the sun-but that?s what it?s designed for! Kinda fun to watch them dance around with the changing display.... Dan Presley 503-701-3871 danpresley at me. com N7CQR at arrl.net From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon Aug 24 19:41:54 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:41:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: <1f6ec34d-4450-33cb-2af2-5318dafeb46f@montac.com> Message-ID: <614a2e73-37a0-7e68-7604-e2c0467a2a45@foothill.net> "Had to disconnect main battery terminals to reboot the computer to get home."? 440 in my old Ford Ranger just cancelled the cruise control if it was engaged.? Just like Windoze Jim! Glad your house has survived ... really hoping for Bob's. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/24/2020 3:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/24/2020 9:03 AM, Mike Short wrote: >> RFI on audio, agreed. Noise on DC, not so much. Routing is the most >> important factor for DC power. It is hard to get enough turns on the >> proper size wire to make a difference. > > Yes, routing is important. But what you're missing is that a major > issue is RF getting into the vehicle's computers, and the RF noise > from those computers getting into our DC wiring. I learned this the > hard way with my 2006 big Toyota SUV. Calling CQ barefoot on 20M SSB > put the car's computer into "limp-home" mode in the NV high desert. > Had to disconnect main battery terminals to reboot the computer to get > home. > > 73, Jim K9YC From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 20:15:20 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:15:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 plexiglass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sooooo, you are telling us that the KX2 has a few bugs? Paul KB9AVO On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 7:33 PM Dan Presley wrote: > Hi folks-got a bit of an unusual issue with the plexiglass readout cover > for my KX2. I use it a lot portable and SOTA and on an activation last week > noticed that I had a few tiny interlopers crawling underneath the covering > adding moving symbols to the display:)). After inspecting I noted that > the plexiglass has slightly warped and bows up in the middle just enough to > let the occasional spider mite or piece of vegetation to slip under the > glass. I could put a small bead of caulk I guess but it?s such a small gap. > Probably the result of having the radio outside a lot in the sun-but that?s > what it?s designed for! Kinda fun to watch them dance around with the > changing display.... > > > Dan Presley 503-701-3871 > danpresley at me. com > N7CQR at arrl.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon Aug 24 20:38:20 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:38:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 plexiglass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dan, Flip the bezel over when you reinstall it. This will compress the convex catenary side against the case, reducing the gap. Note that at some point in the KX2's history we revised the bezel, moving the screw holes slightly outward. Customer support could help you determine if you have the older one, which is more likely to bow as you described. Free replacement on us if it's an issue. Meanwhile, please relocate any live arthropods you find to a new home. Something fecund, preferably. We're in the midst of an insect apocalypse, you may have heard.... 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote: > > Sooooo, you are telling us that the KX2 has a few bugs? > > Paul KB9AVO > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 7:33 PM Dan Presley wrote: > >> Hi folks-got a bit of an unusual issue with the plexiglass readout cover >> for my KX2. I use it a lot portable and SOTA and on an activation last week >> noticed that I had a few tiny interlopers crawling underneath the covering >> adding moving symbols to the display:)). After inspecting I noted that >> the plexiglass has slightly warped and bows up in the middle just enough to >> let the occasional spider mite or piece of vegetation to slip under the >> glass. I could put a small bead of caulk I guess but it?s such a small gap. >> Probably the result of having the radio outside a lot in the sun-but that?s >> what it?s designed for! Kinda fun to watch them dance around with the >> changing display.... >> >> >> Dan Presley 503-701-3871 >> danpresley at me. com >> N7CQR at arrl.net >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n7cqr at arrl.net Mon Aug 24 21:00:54 2020 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:00:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 plexiglass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05154542-8B8A-4B65-A149-2CE7E5245E50@arrl.net> Well at least the bugs were external! Thanks Wayne for the information. I?ll try flipping it around and I?ll check with customer service if it?s still an issue. Mine was a fairly early one so the change could?ve happen later. Usually a gentle puff of air under the cover is enough to get the guys scooting along. Maybe they?re attracted to the CW...haven?t done much night operations. I?m kinda proud of having this problem of overuse! Still a long,long way to Mt. Goat award. Dan Presley 503-701-3871 danpresley at me. com N7CQR at arrl.net > On Aug 24, 2020, at 17:38, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > ?Hi Dan, > > Flip the bezel over when you reinstall it. This will compress the convex catenary side against the case, reducing the gap. > > Note that at some point in the KX2's history we revised the bezel, moving the screw holes slightly outward. Customer support could help you determine if you have the older one, which is more likely to bow as you described. Free replacement on us if it's an issue. > > Meanwhile, please relocate any live arthropods you find to a new home. Something fecund, preferably. We're in the midst of an insect apocalypse, you may have heard.... > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > >> On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote: >> >> Sooooo, you are telling us that the KX2 has a few bugs? >> >> Paul KB9AVO >> >>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 7:33 PM Dan Presley wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks-got a bit of an unusual issue with the plexiglass readout cover >>> for my KX2. I use it a lot portable and SOTA and on an activation last week >>> noticed that I had a few tiny interlopers crawling underneath the covering >>> adding moving symbols to the display:)). After inspecting I noted that >>> the plexiglass has slightly warped and bows up in the middle just enough to >>> let the occasional spider mite or piece of vegetation to slip under the >>> glass. I could put a small bead of caulk I guess but it?s such a small gap. >>> Probably the result of having the radio outside a lot in the sun-but that?s >>> what it?s designed for! Kinda fun to watch them dance around with the >>> changing display.... >>> >>> >>> Dan Presley 503-701-3871 >>> danpresley at me. com >>> N7CQR at arrl.net >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > From k7sss at aol.com Mon Aug 24 21:49:58 2020 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 01:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 plexiglass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <379366415.4321248.1598320198134@mail.yahoo.com> Hi,?I also have an early s/n KX2, 024X. I had the same problem of the bowed Plexiglas cover. My cure was to grid off 1/16th strip on each end and elongate the screw holes carefully. No more bowing.??GL 73?Jim H?K7SSS??In a message dated 8/24/2020 4:34:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, n7cqr at arrl.net writes:? Hi folks-got a bit of an unusual issue with the plexiglass readout cover for my KX2. I use it a lot portable and SOTA and on an activation last week noticed that I had a few tiny interlopers crawling underneath the covering adding moving? symbols to the display:)).? After inspecting I noted that the plexiglass has slightly warped and bows up in the middle just enough to let the occasional spider mite? or piece of vegetation to slip under the glass. I could put a small bead of caulk I guess but it?s such a small gap. Probably the result of having the radio outside a lot in the sun-but that?s what it?s designed for! Kinda fun to watch them dance around with the changing display....??Dan Presley 503-701-3871danpresley at me. com N7CQR at arrl.net ?______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net?This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k7sss at aol.com From kevinr at coho.net Mon Aug 24 22:33:38 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:33:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] APF Primer? Message-ID: I have used APF a number of times.? Sometimes it worked, but often the ringing makes it hard to hear anything intelligible. I have a two families of questions to hopefully remedy my problem. 1) What are the best band conditions to try APF?? Does it work under medium QSB against medium to high noise levels?? Is it better on 80, 40, or 20 meters? 2) What are the procedures to use APF on your K3, KX2, KX3, etc.?? How should I set the bandwidth of the filter I'm already using?? How do I peak the APF performance?? Does the set up change on a per band basis or does one setting fit all cases? As I mentioned, I have gotten it to work well a few times, but usually the signal sounds buried in a hard walled well.? Then I get emails telling me how well it worked during ECN.? My interest is renewed, hence my questions. Help? ?? Kevin.? KD5ONS - From KY5G at montac.com Mon Aug 24 23:17:26 2020 From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 22:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: <94726f50-4dbd-d515-f94c-50b011fd8b17@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <94726f50-4dbd-d515-f94c-50b011fd8b17@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <930d5b2f-c1f1-69e5-3b1e-cae9215a3f6b@montac.com> Yup....? When I did my alternator and battery upgrade (including a complete replacement of the power/ground cables with much heavier cable), for my stereo install, I discovered that very thing....? even in a TRUCK with a frame. I mapped out and installed massive ground continuity cables from every metal body part to the frame, and finished up by MEASURING the resistance from point to point all over the body, bed, cab, frame, and engine to insure that the entire ground plane was continuous and super low resistance. Maybe overkill, but it works great, and it gives me comfort to know that vibration dampening and oxidation aren't compromising the counterpoise. Side bonus, was that the 12VDC ground plane was so good afterwards, that I have been able to take out a lot of the home run grounds from a bunch of lights, et al... ofsetting weight gain by some bit. 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 08/24/20 17:40, Jim Brown wrote: > Yes, and this should definitely be twisted pair, contrary to what's on > a highly regarded mobile site. Also, radio equipment in vehicles > should NOT by bonded to the frame/chassis/vehicle metal. > > OTOH, coax return for HF mobile antennas SHOULD be bonded to vehicle > metal, because that's what serves as its counterpoise (often called a > ground plane). > > BTW -- a major obstacle to this being a good ground plane is that the > metal parts of many (most?) vehicles are insulated from each other by > paint. An ohmmeter study between parts of the chassis is a worthwhile > effort. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On 8/24/2020 3:01 PM, Steve Hall wrote: >> I highly recommend you run a power lead to the battery (ideally) or the >> main power bus in the car interior rather than tap off the limited >> accessory socket.?? Keep well under the fuse rating that feeds the >> accessory plug if you go that route. >> Steve WM6P >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jim at audiosystemsgroup.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Aug 25 01:28:45 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 22:28:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: <930d5b2f-c1f1-69e5-3b1e-cae9215a3f6b@montac.com> References: <94726f50-4dbd-d515-f94c-50b011fd8b17@audiosystemsgroup.com> <930d5b2f-c1f1-69e5-3b1e-cae9215a3f6b@montac.com> Message-ID: On 8/24/2020 8:17 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Side bonus, was that the 12VDC ground plane was so good afterwards, that > I have been able to take out a lot of the home run grounds from a bunch > of lights, et al... ofsetting weight gain by some bit. Important fundamental concept, Clay, that I learned in an IEEE EMC workshop. DC follows the path of least RESISTANCE. AC follows the path of least IMPEDANCE. If there is a transmission line with, for example, a chassis in parallel with the transmission line return, above about 1 kHz, all the return current will be in the transmission line, NOT in the lower resistance chassis. That's because the return patch through the chassis includes a lot of INDUCTIVE REACTANCE, which increases in proportion to frequency, while the path through the transmission line, if matched, never rises about Zo of the line. The whole point of using the transmission line is to reduce noise and crosstalk. It's only effect on DC (as compared to the chassis path) is to slightly reduce the DCR of the return path by adding the transmission line return in parallel. With coax, of course, the shield is the return. Wtih 2-wire line, one conductor is the "hot" lead, the other the return. AND -- 2-wire line and coax are no different in this regard! The KPA500, for example, uses twisted pair for wiring from the input coax to the amp input stage. 73, Jim K9YC From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 25 10:52:38 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] help net information submission References: <1516632336.5964307.1598367158051.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1516632336.5964307.1598367158051@mail.yahoo.com> For the last several weeks my submission of the SSB net logs keep being rejected by the forum as being too large. I have submitted them the same way as I have before. Can anyone help me understand why I can no longer submit the logs? Any ideas? Eric WB9JNZ From nr4c at widomaker.com Tue Aug 25 11:03:39 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:03:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] help net information submission In-Reply-To: <1516632336.5964307.1598367158051@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1516632336.5964307.1598367158051@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Are you creating txt or HTML + txt? Are you doing pdf files? Try submitting a very small file, maybe two lines of log. See if it?s the submittal process or the file itself. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 25, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Eric Lanzl wrote: > > ?For the last several weeks my submission of the SSB net logs keep being rejected by the forum as being too large. I have submitted them the same way as I have before. Can anyone help me understand why I can no longer submit the logs? Any ideas? > > Eric WB9JNZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From mikehagans at aol.com Tue Aug 25 11:22:07 2020 From: mikehagans at aol.com (Michael Hagans) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 amplifier keying line won't key amp References: <836873742.5975869.1598368927328.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <836873742.5975869.1598368927328@mail.yahoo.com> KX2? ?All of a sudden my KX2 will no longer key my external amplifier....Ring "2" on acc jack does not go to ground when keyed....Any help.....Thanks in advance....Mike W4ZGI From keith at elecraft.com Tue Aug 25 11:33:39 2020 From: keith at elecraft.com (Keith Trinity WE6R) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:33:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] help net information submission In-Reply-To: <1516632336.5964307.1598367158051@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1516632336.5964307.1598367158051@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0f8a1070-00d2-bc5a-3ef9-ff8a054164fa@elecraft.com> Hi Eric; Make sure it is in plain-text. Make sure you don't have a "signature". I will look more closely at the reject message I get next time. Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech, and admin. From awinger2011 at icloud.com Tue Aug 25 11:46:13 2020 From: awinger2011 at icloud.com (Albert Winger) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 09:46:13 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] help net information submission In-Reply-To: <0f8a1070-00d2-bc5a-3ef9-ff8a054164fa@elecraft.com> References: <0f8a1070-00d2-bc5a-3ef9-ff8a054164fa@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <9B6808A2-7696-486E-B4D5-31956410AF23@icloud.com> I think Keith has nailed it with his suggestions What a super community the Elecraft community is. 73 Al W1NGA Monument, CO > On Aug 25, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: > > ?Hi Eric; > Make sure it is in plain-text. > Make sure you don't have a "signature". > I will look more closely at the reject message I get next time. > Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech, and admin. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to awinger2011 at icloud.com From w5sum at comcast.net Tue Aug 25 11:53:15 2020 From: w5sum at comcast.net (Ronnie Hull) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 10:53:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters Message-ID: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> I recently purchased a complete KV144 kit to install in my K3. I?m told that if I want to use it on 2M SSB OR CW that I need another board. A ref lock or some such that is, of course ( my bad luck as usual) no longer available from Elecraft. What exactly is the Board I need? Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? Thanks in advance Ronnie W5SUM From cyaffey at columbus.rr.com Tue Aug 25 12:02:54 2020 From: cyaffey at columbus.rr.com (Carl Yaffey) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:02:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net from 8-23-2020 References: <1094745065.5966588.1598368940387@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6CC2A16F-F766-43A5-93E7-F3DB7AD072AB@columbus.rr.com> Elecraft SSB Nets 20 m net 1800Z 14.303.5 Sundays 40 m net 1900Z 7.280 Sundays 80 m net 0100Z 3.942 Sundays Here is the log from the 20 m net on Sunday 8-23. Thank you to the relay stations for their help in picking up stations that net control does not hear. Please join us for one or more nets. Eric WB9JNZ Call Name State Radio Serial # QRP Notes WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control K8NU/7 Carl OH/WA Yaesu FT 2000 KO5V Jim NM K2/100 7225 Relay Station N6JW John CA K3 936 Relay Station NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 Relay Station WM6P Steve GA K3S 11453 Relay Station N6PGQ Bob CA K3 5891 AE6JV Bill NH K3 6299 KB9AVO Paul IN K3S 11103 W1NGA Al CO K3 5765 NS7P Phil OR K3 1826 WW4JF John TN K3S 11177 N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 AE1E Ken NM K3S 1 1611 K6FW Frank CA K3S 11672 K4FBI Mike VA K3S 11414 W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 K6VWE Stan MI K3 650 N0MPM Mike IA K3S 10514 KS7D Mike FL K3 118 AB7CE Roy MT K2/100 40 KI0OA John CO FT 817 QRP 1st time check in N7YW Ken AZ K3 8183 K6SBA David CA K3 565 From KY5G at montac.com Tue Aug 25 13:03:06 2020 From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:03:06 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters In-Reply-To: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> References: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> Message-ID: <64f8ca4d-3d35-eeb5-d49a-815f3f0504be@montac.com> Ronnie, it's a REFLOCK board that is installed INSIDE the 2M module....? It is "highly recommended" (was), so that IMPLIES that the 2M module can be used without it, but at some sort of reduced accuracy in frequency I would guess. My 2M module install turned into the need to ship it in and fix several issues, one of which I caused when I slipped and let the smoke out of a latching switch circuit... Works now...? I'd ask Elecraft.... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 08/25/20 10:53, Ronnie Hull wrote: > I recently purchased a complete KV144 kit to install in my K3. I?m told that if I want to use it on 2M SSB OR CW that I need another board. A ref lock or some such that is, of course ( my bad luck as usual) no longer available from Elecraft. What exactly is the Board I need? > > Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? > > Thanks in advance > > Ronnie W5SUM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com From KY5G at montac.com Tue Aug 25 13:05:52 2020 From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:05:52 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters In-Reply-To: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> References: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> Message-ID: Oops...? Here's the board nomenclature: K144RFLK_K144XV Reference Lock Board, Kit ? 1 ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 08/25/20 10:53, Ronnie Hull wrote: > I recently purchased a complete KV144 kit to install in my K3. I?m told that if I want to use it on 2M SSB OR CW that I need another board. A ref lock or some such that is, of course ( my bad luck as usual) no longer available from Elecraft. What exactly is the Board I need? > > Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? > > Thanks in advance > > Ronnie W5SUM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 25 13:11:06 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net from Sunday 8-23-2020 References: <2040484766.6036268.1598375466478.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2040484766.6036268.1598375466478@mail.yahoo.com> Here are the SSB Nets that take place on Sundays. You do not have to have an Elecraft Radio to check in to the net. We ask for the call sign, name, state, type of radio. If it is an Elecraft radio the model and serial number. 20 m. 1800Z?? 14.303.5???? Net Control Eric WB9JNZ??????? IL 40 m. 1900Z?????? 7280??????? Net Control Steve WM6P?????? GA 80 m.? 0100Z????? 3942??????? Net Control Paul??? KB9AVO??? IN Once again thank you to all the relay stations for their help hearing the stations that net control does not hear in an attempt to get everyone who wants to check in a chance to participate in the net. I hope to hear you on one or more of the nets this coming Sunday. Eric WB9JNZ WB9JNZ????????Eric????????IL????K3????????4017????Net Control K8NU????????Carl????????OH????K3S????????10996???? KO5V????????Jim????????NM????K2/100????7225????Relay Station???? N6JW????????John????CA????K3????????936????????Relay Station WM6P????????Steve????GA????K3S????????11453????Relay Station NC0JW????????Jim????????CO????KX3????????1356????Relay Station N6PGQ????????Bob????????CA????K3????????5891 AE6JV????????Bill????????NH????K3????????6299 KB9AVO????????Paul????IN????K3S????????11103 W1NGA????????Al????????CO????K3????????5765???? NS7P????????Phil????????OR????K3????????1826????Relay Station N4NRW????????Roger????SC????K3????????1318????Relay Station WW4JF????????John????TN????K3S????????11177 K6FW????????Frank????CA????K3S????????11672 AE1E????????Ken????????NM????K3S????????11611 K4FBI????????Mike????VA????K3S????????11414 W4DML????????Doug????TN????K3????????6433 K6VWE????????Stan????MI????K3????????650 N0MPM????????Mike????IA????K3S????????10514 KS7D????????Mike????FL????K3????????118 AB7CE????????Roy????????MT????K2/100????40 KI0OA????????John????CO????FT-817 N7YW????????Ken????????AZ????K3????????8183?????Brand new KPA500 K6SBA????????Dave????CA????K3????????565 From alan at wilcoxengineering.com Tue Aug 25 13:16:53 2020 From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2][K1] Legacy Tuneups, Rescue, Build Services Message-ID: <7f34b979-94ec-b953-5d0b-643b239e5a19@wilcoxengineering.com> Hello, Does your K1 or K2 need repair? Tuneup? Want to sell, but it needs some attention before offering it for sale? In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago. See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure -- are at https://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ Cheers, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-916-9590 (cell, text) http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox Williamsport, PA 17701 From phystad at mac.com Tue Aug 25 13:42:03 2020 From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 10:42:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters In-Reply-To: References: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK, I am curious? Why was not this reference clock board not built into the 2-m option board in the first place. Overall I can?t imagine that the net cost would be as much as designing and separating out an optional PCB and all that goes along with that as the combined cost of the 2-m option and reference clock now. After all, it was recommended for SSB and CW use. Now, I suppose that there are possibly people in this world that would buy the 2-m option only for FM comms but given that a nice separate 2-m FM rig would be cheaper it doesn?t make sense to me to add something like that to the K3/K3S. 73, phil, K7PEH > On Aug 25, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Oops... Here's the board nomenclature: > > K144RFLK_K144XV Reference Lock Board, Kit ? 1 > > ______________________ From kevinr at coho.net Tue Aug 25 13:43:38 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 10:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: no8v: APF Primer? - 2020-08-25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05288f69-227d-48ff-7681-27b3aa8c5904@coho.net> Here is John's method for using the APF feature on his K3. ?? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: no8v: [Elecraft] APF Primer? - 2020-08-25 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:20:14 +0000 From: John Gibson To: kevinr Hi Kevin, I have used APF to find you on ECN/20. When QRN/QRM was high and signals were weak, APF sometimes enabled me to hear and recognize you by the rhythm of your sending. Without APF, I could not hear you at all. Normally I tune for you with a WIDTH of about 25 Hz, but when I switch to APF, I also broaden WIDTH to its default CW value of 400 Hz to help minimize ringing. I also change the tuning rate to FINE to avoid missing the APF peak. It should be possible to automate both of those changes on the K3, although I have not yet done so. APF is no panacea. It does ring, which makes copy difficult. But sometimes it saves the day. 73, John, no8v ________________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of kevinr Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:33 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] APF Primer? I have used APF a number of times. Sometimes it worked, but often the ringing makes it hard to hear anything intelligible. I have a two families of questions to hopefully remedy my problem. 1) What are the best band conditions to try APF? Does it work under medium QSB against medium to high noise levels? Is it better on 80, 40, or 20 meters? 2) What are the procedures to use APF on your K3, KX2, KX3, etc.? How should I set the bandwidth of the filter I'm already using? How do I peak the APF performance? Does the set up change on a per band basis or does one setting fit all cases? As I mentioned, I have gotten it to work well a few times, but usually the signal sounds buried in a hard walled well. Then I get emails telling me how well it worked during ECN. My interest is renewed, hence my questions. Help? Kevin. KD5ONS - ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gibson at alma.edu From w4sc at windstream.net Tue Aug 25 13:47:15 2020 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:47:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters Message-ID: <0D.20.02088.4AE454F5@smtp03.aqua.bos.sync.lan> The ??K144RFLK? is showing as available on this page.? However, clicking the item takes you to a page suggesting to ?signup? on an interest list. https://elecraft.com/pages/k-line-transceiver-k3-k3s Also, to use an external 10MHz reference,? K3EXREF is required. My K3S is currently in Watsonville for ?final upgrading?, and two items to be installed are the K144XV and K144RFLK. If your K3 has been upgraded to KSYN3A, there is an additional mod that the KREF3 Reference Oscillator should undergo.? Ben? W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From ab4iq at comcast.net Tue Aug 25 13:50:17 2020 From: ab4iq at comcast.net (Ed Pflueger) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:50:17 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters In-Reply-To: <64f8ca4d-3d35-eeb5-d49a-815f3f0504be@montac.com> References: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> <64f8ca4d-3d35-eeb5-d49a-815f3f0504be@montac.com> Message-ID: <000001d67b08$44405570$ccc10050$@comcast.net> I sold it to him and the Reflock is already in the unit. Ed.. AB4IQ -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:03 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters Ronnie, it's a REFLOCK board that is installed INSIDE the 2M module.... It is "highly recommended" (was), so that IMPLIES that the 2M module can be used without it, but at some sort of reduced accuracy in frequency I would guess. My 2M module install turned into the need to ship it in and fix several issues, one of which I caused when I slipped and let the smoke out of a latching switch circuit... Works now... I'd ask Elecraft.... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 08/25/20 10:53, Ronnie Hull wrote: > I recently purchased a complete KV144 kit to install in my K3. I?m told that if I want to use it on 2M SSB OR CW that I need another board. A ref lock or some such that is, of course ( my bad luck as usual) no longer available from Elecraft. What exactly is the Board I need? > > Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? > > Thanks in advance > > Ronnie W5SUM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > ky5g at montac.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab4iq at comcast.net From billamader at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 14:18:43 2020 From: billamader at gmail.com (K8TE) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:18:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 going expeditionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1598379523575-0.post@n2.nabble.com> As is often the case, connecting directly to the battery for the negative lead is misunderstood. In today's world, it depends. The Battery Monitoring System (BMS) is a big deal in most of today's vehicles. To function properly, we should NOT CONNECT to the battery's negative terminal. That used to be good advice and may be bad today. See: http://www.k0bg.com/wiring.html. As Alan, K0BG, states, "It WORKs." often means "WithOut Real Knowledge. Not all advice on this reflector is current or correct. Caveat emptor. BTW, using vehicle wiring for a 100 Watt radio can lead to losing the vehicle due to fire! I have seen the pictures. I worked in the Gulf of Mexico oil fields. I swatted down with gusto the idea of "It's only temporary." and "I can do it quickly." Do it right, even if it's for an hour or a weekend. 73, Bill, K8TE -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue Aug 25 14:21:45 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:21:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: no8v: APF Primer? - 2020-08-25 In-Reply-To: <05288f69-227d-48ff-7681-27b3aa8c5904@coho.net> Message-ID: APF is not a cure all. It is an alternative to narrowing the bandwidth to the minimum to try to improve the signal to noise ratio. If there are strong signals near the one you are trying to receive, from a crowded band or DQRM, then it isn't going to help. If the band is reasonably quiet around the signal, it can make reception possible. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Concurrency is hard. 12 | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | out 10 programmers get it | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | wrong. - Jeff Frantz | Peterborough, NH 03458 From w5sum at comcast.net Tue Aug 25 15:29:17 2020 From: w5sum at comcast.net (Ronnie Hull) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks everyone! The Ref Lock board was included with the kit I purchased! I was too dumb to know it was there! Thanks and 73 Ronnie Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > ?Oops... Here's the board nomenclature: > > K144RFLK_K144XV Reference Lock Board, Kit ? 1 > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > (318) 518-1389 > >> On 08/25/20 10:53, Ronnie Hull wrote: >> I recently purchased a complete KV144 kit to install in my K3. I?m told that if I want to use it on 2M SSB OR CW that I need another board. A ref lock or some such that is, of course ( my bad luck as usual) no longer available from Elecraft. What exactly is the Board I need? >> >> Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Ronnie W5SUM >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ky5g at montac.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w5sum at comcast.net From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue Aug 25 16:49:58 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:49:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] APF Primer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kevin: 1)? For a K3, APF seems to be very dependent on current AGC action. If there are very strong signals close in and the AGC is doing its thing, APF doesn't seem to work.? You can adjust the AGC parameters, however my experience is that I use APF infrequently enough that it's better to adjust the AGC to non-APF situations. 2)? The APF will ring, it is very narrow.? With APF on, using a wider DSP BW [400 or 500 Hz] will help some.? Tuning just off the peak, if possible, can also help although even at 1 Hz tuning, sometimes that's hard. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/24/2020 7:33 PM, kevinr wrote: > I have used APF a number of times.? Sometimes it worked, but often the > ringing makes it hard to hear anything intelligible. > > I have a two families of questions to hopefully remedy my problem. > > 1) What are the best band conditions to try APF?? Does it work under > medium QSB against medium to high noise levels?? Is it better on 80, > 40, or 20 meters? > > 2) What are the procedures to use APF on your K3, KX2, KX3, etc.? How > should I set the bandwidth of the filter I'm already using? How do I > peak the APF performance?? Does the set up change on a per band basis > or does one setting fit all cases? > > As I mentioned, I have gotten it to work well a few times, but usually > the signal sounds buried in a hard walled well.? Then I get emails > telling me how well it worked during ECN.? My interest is renewed, > hence my questions. > > Help? > > ?? Kevin.? KD5ONS From huntinhmb at coastside.net Tue Aug 25 16:54:30 2020 From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (huntinhmb at coastside.net) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Elecraft] =?utf-8?q?APF_Primer=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1598388870.20012222@webmail.coastside.net> Kevin - Here's my take on the APF. I use it a lot during QRP Fox Hunts and I just used it to pull G3SED out of the weeds on 20. Best conditions are when only random band noise is in the passband for my technique although it can be used in conjunction with the NB (the IF blanker, not the DSP option). The passband should be QRM free. I set the DSP passband to about 700 Hz and turn on NR set to NRm5-3 or so. This is fairly light noise reduction with a level of unprocessed noise+signal mixed in. Since there is only random noise in the passband that level of NR works well. I use this to tune around looking for the Fox. When I find a signal of interest, I turn on the APF and peak the signal in the very narrow passband using FINE tuning. I also frequently use an audio spectrum display on the PC to center the signal on the marker which is set to the CW pitch frequency. Although the APF is very narrow: ~30 Hz at -3 dB, the sharp peak is more like 5 Hz wide so FINE tuning is needed and the marker helps because my ears aren't that good at matching pitch. You can set the DSP filter narrower than 700 Hz to eliminate some QRM but that seems to be the sweet spot for the NR to work well. To your other questions ... Make sure the noise level is not activating the AGC or it will be working against you. Really no band preference but it's better not to have big static crashes to deal with. Set AGC to fast if there are. It took me a while to figure this out. Have fun! 73, Brian, K0DTJ -----Original Message----- From: "kevinr" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 19:33 To: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: [Elecraft] APF Primer? 1) What are the best band conditions to try APF? Does it work under medium QSB against medium to high noise levels? Is it better on 80, 40, or 20 meters? 2) What are the procedures to use APF on your K3, KX2, KX3, etc.? How should I set the bandwidth of the filter I'm already using? How do I peak the APF performance? Does the set up change on a per band basis or does one setting fit all cases? From tony.kaz at verizon.net Tue Aug 25 17:03:36 2020 From: tony.kaz at verizon.net (tony.kaz at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:03:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on KPA-1500 Operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13e401d67b23$3356d9d0$9a048d70$@verizon.net> Can someone answer this question? Thanks, N2TK, Tony Here's a question for you: Scenario: KPA-1500 **NOT** interfaced to a radio. Set Up: KPA-1500 ATU in bypass. Mode is Operate. Test: 1. Put amp on 14 MHz band by pushing the button. 2. Monitoring on another radio connected to no antenna. 3. Put transmitter on 14025 kHz and send a C on the paddle or via memory keyer. Question: On the separate RX, was the first dash in the C clipped? 4. Move the transmitter and separate RX to 14050 kHz. 5. Send another C on the paddle or memory keyer. Question: Was the first dash in the C clipped? My reason for asking: Doing this test with the SPE 2K-FA results in first dash of the C being clipped. Why is this important: In SO2V when CQing on VFO-A, and S&P on VFO-B, the 2K-FA's firmware sees the 14025 RF and adjusts the internal ATU for that frequency EVEN IF THE ATU IS BYPASSED. When a spot in VFO-B is called, if VFO-B is in another ATU segment, EVEN IF THE ATU IS BYPASSED, the amp goes into bypass, realigns the ATU for the new segment, and then goes back into operate, the result being that the first character of the transmission of VFO-B is clipped. Many times when I dump my call in on VFO-B to answer a CQ on that frequency, the guy comes back "?" since my N is clipped into something unrecognizable. From pincon at erols.com Tue Aug 25 15:17:03 2020 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:17:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters In-Reply-To: <000001d67b08$44405570$ccc10050$@comcast.net> References: <51934ECD-8D28-408F-95B1-5E2DC77D59DC@comcast.net> <64f8ca4d-3d35-eeb5-d49a-815f3f0504be@montac.com> <000001d67b08$44405570$ccc10050$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <008301d67b14$546bed90$fd43c8b0$@erols.com> I never bought any extra stuff for my internal 2M transverter and I've used it on quite a few VHF contests etc. So, as far as I'm concerned, the REFLOCK option is definitely NOT required for normal 2M CW/SSB contacts. The regular calibration routine gets me close enough for anything I'd be doing. 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Ed Pflueger Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:50 PM To: 'Clay Autery' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters I sold it to him and the Reflock is already in the unit. Ed.. AB4IQ -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:03 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 2 meters Ronnie, it's a REFLOCK board that is installed INSIDE the 2M module.... It is "highly recommended" (was), so that IMPLIES that the 2M module can be used without it, but at some sort of reduced accuracy in frequency I would guess. My 2M module install turned into the need to ship it in and fix several issues, one of which I caused when I slipped and let the smoke out of a latching switch circuit... Works now... I'd ask Elecraft.... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 08/25/20 10:53, Ronnie Hull wrote: > I recently purchased a complete KV144 kit to install in my K3. I?m told that if I want to use it on 2M SSB OR CW that I need another board. A ref lock or some such that is, of course ( my bad luck as usual) no longer available from Elecraft. What exactly is the Board I need? > > Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? > > Thanks in advance > > Ronnie W5SUM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > ky5g at montac.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab4iq at comcast.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com From 1lasportsman at cox.net Tue Aug 25 18:01:22 2020 From: 1lasportsman at cox.net (Bill) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:01:22 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] 2m module for kx3 Message-ID: <42E0F919-182F-4204-A349-3BE015AEE240@cox.net> Looking for 2m module for my kx3 Please list price shipped to 70065 zip Bill WF9M Sent from my iPad From dick at elecraft.com Tue Aug 25 18:27:05 2020 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:27:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on KPA-1500 Operation In-Reply-To: <13e401d67b23$3356d9d0$9a048d70$@verizon.net> References: <13e401d67b23$3356d9d0$9a048d70$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <6EDCE8A2-0A34-4FC8-B55F-F513C9F1E7D1@elecraft.com> I?ll check when I get back home. We shouldn?t be clipping anything related to ATU if the ATU is bypassed, or if the ATU settings required are already set. We have to interrupt to change ATU relays if the ATU is not bypassed and different ATU setting is needed. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:06, N2TK via Elecraft wrote: > > ?Can someone answer this question? > > Thanks, > > N2TK, Tony > > > > > > Here's a question for you: > > > > Scenario: KPA-1500 **NOT** interfaced to a radio. > > > > Set Up: KPA-1500 ATU in bypass. Mode is Operate. > > > > Test: > > > > 1. Put amp on 14 MHz band by pushing the button. > > 2. Monitoring on another radio connected to no antenna. > > 3. Put transmitter on 14025 kHz and send a C on the paddle or via memory keyer. > > > > Question: > > > > On the separate RX, was the first dash in the C clipped? > > > > 4. Move the transmitter and separate RX to 14050 kHz. > > 5. Send another C on the paddle or memory keyer. > > > > Question: > > > > Was the first dash in the C clipped? > > > > My reason for asking: Doing this test with the SPE 2K-FA results in first dash of the C being clipped. > > Why is this important: In SO2V when CQing on VFO-A, and S&P on VFO-B, the 2K-FA's firmware > > sees the 14025 RF and adjusts the internal ATU for that frequency EVEN IF THE ATU IS BYPASSED. > > When a spot in VFO-B is called, if VFO-B is in another ATU segment, EVEN IF THE ATU IS BYPASSED, > > the amp goes into bypass, realigns the ATU for the new segment, and then goes back into operate, > > the result being that the first character of the transmission of VFO-B is clipped. Many times when I > > dump my call in on VFO-B to answer a CQ on that frequency, the guy comes back "?" since my N is > > clipped into something unrecognizable. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From kevinr at coho.net Tue Aug 25 19:23:31 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 16:23:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. Inquiring minds... Kevin.? KD5ONS From Lyn at LNAINC.com Tue Aug 25 19:49:12 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:49:12 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? OK, maybe just because it's fun. I get that. But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz. It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m. No radials needed. Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. Inquiring minds... Kevin. KD5ONS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com From kevinr at coho.net Tue Aug 25 19:58:10 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 16:58:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <24525bce-eb5a-d86f-a877-65c08a924d3f@coho.net> Two reasons why I want to use an inverted L.? One) it fits my property well.? Two) I have never tried one before. I currently have an extra long doublet.? I can't remember the exact length but seem to remember over 120 feet for each leg.? The tuner on my K3 just won't match it below 2:1.0 so I don't want to transmit on it.? It hears well enough but just won't match. Reason number two pushes me onward :) ?? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS On 8/25/20 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? OK, maybe just because it's fun. I get that. > > But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz. It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m. No radials needed. > > Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). > > I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters > > From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 > feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for the > vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the > counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas stored > in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the > counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter > lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I > add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. > > I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the > rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from the > vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there should be > some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly > does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation > pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from > 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between > 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks > maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any > antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear > out any dead limbs across the road. > > Inquiring minds... > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com > From rickw8zt at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 19:58:19 2020 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 19:58:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a L for all HF band . One wire going up about 60 feet then goes horizontal about 85 feet or so. I use a somewhat equal length elevated radial about 10-12 feet off the ground. I use a couple of auto couplers, depending on the radio . A Icom AH-4 for my Icom radios and an SGC 230 for anything else. I don?t run an amp on HF so these work great. I also have a ICE discharge unit to bleed off static to the tuners. This cuts off at 30 MHZ, which is ok as I have separate 6 meter antennas. There are many references to match the antenna and many around here in hilly WV use elevated radials, usually only one to facilitate proper matching. -- Rick Genesis 1-29 From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue Aug 25 20:01:06 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:01:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a3c8c51-f329-09aa-123a-12798668cbf4@foothill.net> **interspersed ... On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: > From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 > feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for > the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the > counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas > stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs > for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute > some shorter lengths? **Radial elements on the ground can be of any length, longer [up to a point] is better.? Their purpose is to provide a lower loss path than the earth for the return circuit. Elevated radials should be tuned, usually 1/4 wave, to be effective.? You can think of them as the "other half" of the vertical radiator, and if you had room and could fold them down, you'd have a center-fed half wave antenna fed at 180 deg. > ? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add > more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. **Radiation resistance will be somewhere in the 50 ohm ballpark.? Generally, the radiators are not resonant due to physical constraints and there will be some reactance in the feedpoint impedance.? That is generally cancelled with a series capacitor [center conductor to radiator] or base inductive loading. > > I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the > rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from > the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. **True.? For the most part, the horizontal part acts as a capacity hat.? Shipboard antennas for 600 m were often one or more horizontal wires between two masts with a downlead to the transmitter.? Most [nearly all] of the radiation came from the downlead. > But there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal > portion.? How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion > effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system? **It will have a small effect.? So will the arrangement of the radials if they are asymmetric in spacing around the radiator or in length.? In every case I've seen, the "Fly Poop Axiom"++ applies: Unless you're a broadcast station seeking to maximize field strength at the limits of your effective coverage, the effect is way below the other vagaries of Top Band. > My property allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 > degrees so I have plenty of options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees > there is a road used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers > at the top of this mountain.? They can break any antenna lower than 80 > feet above ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs > across the road. The effect of having one of them take down your antenna will be far, far greater than that produced by precisely aiming the horizontal wire over their territory.? Keep it away from the loggers ... with today's equipment, they rarely look up anyway.? It's the Fly Poop Axiom vs the Elephant Poop Axiom. [:-) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County ++Effects and changes so small they are like trying to pick fly poop out of the pepper."? You can use your imagination for the elephants [:=) > > > Inquiring minds... > > Kevin.? KD5ONS From ab7echo at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 20:01:15 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:01:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6d64aa29-ab8e-6fa9-7e25-9a8d352eee16@gmail.com> Why not model it?? It would be very easy to do using the free version of EZNEC that comes with the ARRL Antenna Book, and you'd be able to try various combinations (like the fact that you could probably get away with just one counterpoise wire like I do) to see the effects. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: > From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 > feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for > the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the > counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas > stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs > for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute > some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms > impedance.? As I add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms > asymptotically. > > I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the > rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from > the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there > should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? > How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the > radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to > point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of > options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, > and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? > They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar > poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. > > Inquiring minds... > > Kevin.? KD5ONS From ab7echo at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 20:04:39 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:04:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: Pretty sure there are some significant pattern differences between ANY horizontal antenna and a vertical one on 160m ...? at least at heights practical for amateur radio purposes. That's probably why. Dave? AB7E On 8/25/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? OK, maybe just because it's fun. I get that. > > But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz. It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m. No radials needed. > > Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). > > I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters > > From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 > feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for the > vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the > counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas stored > in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the > counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter > lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I > add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. > > I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the > rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from the > vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there should be > some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly > does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation > pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from > 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between > 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks > maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any > antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear > out any dead limbs across the road. > > Inquiring minds... > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com From k7im at icloud.com Tue Aug 25 20:06:48 2020 From: k7im at icloud.com (Michael K Bottles) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:06:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <24525bce-eb5a-d86f-a877-65c08a924d3f@coho.net> References: <24525bce-eb5a-d86f-a877-65c08a924d3f@coho.net> Message-ID: <84AA18E2-2AEF-4C89-A36D-581020737720@icloud.com> Interesting, I have a doublet 125 feet per leg and fed with 600 ohm true open ladder line (not window line) and the K-3 and KAT-500 both tune it to 1:1 160-6. Feed point 40 feet up with ends at about 10 feet each. So inverted Vee. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2020, at 16:59, kevinr wrote: > > ?Two reasons why I want to use an inverted L. One) it fits my property well. Two) I have never tried one before. > > I currently have an extra long doublet. I can't remember the exact length but seem to remember over 120 feet for each leg. The tuner on my K3 just won't match it below 2:1.0 so I don't want to transmit on it. It hears well enough but just won't match. > > Reason number two pushes me onward :) > > 73, Kevin. KD5ONS > > >> On 8/25/20 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? OK, maybe just because it's fun. I get that. >> >> But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz. It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m. No radials needed. >> >> Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). >> >> I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters >> >> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 >> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for the >> vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the >> counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas stored >> in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the >> counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter >> lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I >> add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >> >> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the >> rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from the >> vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there should be >> some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly >> does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation >> pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from >> 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between >> 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks >> maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any >> antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear >> out any dead limbs across the road. >> >> Inquiring minds... >> >> Kevin. KD5ONS >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k7im at icloud.com From kevinr at coho.net Tue Aug 25 20:21:09 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:21:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <0c674e3e-b23e-efb7-91c5-c522b37c48ed@coho.net> I am hearing quite a difference between my inverted V and my 1/4 wave over a ground plane.? For the last few weeks I've been hearing less noise on the vertical.? Enough less to pull more ops out of the noise.? When I try the inverted L I expect there to be a little more noise than the vertical, but less than the doublet. Now to test that hypothesis. ?? Kevin.? KD5ONS On 8/25/20 5:04 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > Pretty sure there are some significant pattern differences between ANY > horizontal antenna and a vertical one on 160m ...? at least at heights > practical for amateur radio purposes. > > That's probably why. > > Dave? AB7E > > > On 8/25/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> Good gracious.? Why does everyone overthink 160m?? OK, maybe just >> because it's fun.? I get that. >> >> But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ >> (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz.? It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m.? No >> radials needed. >> >> Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on >> 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). >> >> I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters >> >> ? From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 >> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for the >> vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the >> counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas stored >> in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the >> counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter >> lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I >> add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >> >> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the >> rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from the >> vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there should be >> some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? How strongly >> does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation >> pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to point it from >> 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between >> 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks >> maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? They can break any >> antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear >> out any dead limbs across the road. >> >> Inquiring minds... >> >> Kevin.? KD5ONS >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Tue Aug 25 20:23:40 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:23:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. ? (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/)? He has written more than you ever want to know about vertical antennas, More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be elevated?? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some effort should be made to get all of the currents the same.? The last thing you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened vertical (which is what an L is).? There is evidence that elevated radials are an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials.? Mine are on the ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up radiator height to raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury theirs and I don't have room for full length radials anyway in my cactus patch.? See my QRZ page for evidence. My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the horizontal wire, but it's negligible. Wes? N7WS On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: > From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 feet > long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for the vertical > and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the counterpoise (ground > plane).? There are many broken wire antennas stored in my shed which are > fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 > wavelength or can I substitute some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should > somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add more radials that number will > reach 50 ohms asymptotically. > > I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the rest of > it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from the vertical part > since it is closer to the feed point.? But there should be some effect from > the direction of the horizontal portion.? How strongly does the direction of > the horizontal portion effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My > property allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I > have plenty of options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by > loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? > They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar poles and > cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. > > Inquiring minds... > > Kevin.? KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org From kevinr at coho.net Tue Aug 25 20:31:20 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:31:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> Message-ID: I have to be very careful of raised wires on my property.? If they are not above the height of an elk's antlers I am in trouble.? I plan to bury them.? This is something I've never done before which has its own merit.? I have plenty of wire scrap from broken antennas so the non-resonant, buried radials work better for my circumstances.? I need to calculate the feed point impedance to see if I need to design a balun for the system to work.? Once my main project is done I'll have more time for modeling each method. ?? Thanks for all the ideas guys, ?????? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS On 8/25/20 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: > You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. > (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/)? He has written more than you ever > want to know about vertical antennas, > > More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be > elevated?? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some effort > should be made to get all of the currents the same.? The last thing > you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened vertical > (which is what an L is).? There is evidence that elevated radials are > an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials.? Mine are on the > ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up radiator height to > raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury theirs and I don't have > room for full length radials anyway in my cactus patch.? See my QRZ > page for evidence. > > My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the horizontal > wire, but it's negligible. > > Wes? N7WS > > On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: >> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 >> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for >> the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for >> the counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas >> stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the >> legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I >> substitute some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere >> above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add more radials that number will >> reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >> >> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the >> rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from >> the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there >> should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? >> How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the >> radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to >> point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of >> options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by >> loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this >> mountain.? They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above >> ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. >> >> Inquiring minds... >> >> Kevin.? KD5ONS >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net From wa3afs at nycap.rr.com Tue Aug 25 21:02:59 2020 From: wa3afs at nycap.rr.com (wa3afs at nycap.rr.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: <5F45B4C3.19684.F9C0C4@wa3afs.nycap.rr.com> From barrylazar2 at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 21:03:45 2020 From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:03:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <24525bce-eb5a-d86f-a877-65c08a924d3f@coho.net> References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> <24525bce-eb5a-d86f-a877-65c08a924d3f@coho.net> Message-ID: Kevin, ??? Your instincts are right on. But, to answer your question the? radials do not need to be 130' long, but it is better than a shorter set. The inverted L represents a 1/4 wave over ground and needs the other half, the radials. But, here is where it gets a little tricky. 5 radials are not enough if they are on the ground, but elevate them and 5 starts to represent a better counterpoise. I have a 132 feet of wire for an inverted L but, I only go vertical for ~61'. I, too, have only 5 radials and they vary in length to fit my backyard; the horizontal section of my antenna goes over the house. The antenna does work well on 160-40 meters, and 1/2 the time I use it on 30 and 1/2 the time? I use a 20 meter vertical dipole on 30; it's a pattern thing.? And, I have only these two antennas. ??? I do have a suggestion. That is feed your inverted L with a remote antenna tuner. This will allow your antenna to be used on other bands and keep loses low on the transmission line when high SWRs are present, and they will be. How much loss? that will depend on the feed line you use. On 8/25/2020 7:58 PM, kevinr wrote: > Two reasons why I want to use an inverted L.? One) it fits my property > well.? Two) I have never tried one before. > > I currently have an extra long doublet.? I can't remember the exact > length but seem to remember over 120 feet for each leg.? The tuner on > my K3 just won't match it below 2:1.0 so I don't want to transmit on > it.? It hears well enough but just won't match. > > Reason number two pushes me onward :) > > ?? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS > > > On 8/25/20 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> Good gracious.? Why does everyone overthink 160m?? OK, maybe just >> because it's fun.? I get that. >> >> But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ >> (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz.? It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m.? No >> radials needed. >> >> Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on >> 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). >> >> I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters >> >> ? From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 >> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for the >> vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the >> counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas stored >> in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the >> counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter >> lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I >> add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >> >> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the >> rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from the >> vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there should be >> some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? How strongly >> does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation >> pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to point it from >> 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between >> 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks >> maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? They can break any >> antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear >> out any dead limbs across the road. >> >> Inquiring minds... >> >> Kevin.? KD5ONS >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to barrylazar2 at gmail.com From jimw3fa at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 21:24:15 2020 From: jimw3fa at gmail.com (Jim Bruce) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:24:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2afcd0c6-5d04-b407-517c-de755e82904d@gmail.com> For mine I have 1/4 wave wire for 160, goes up 35-40 ft and over to pole in corner of the yard with the remainder of the wire. I use mostly random length ground radials on top of the ground, some 1/4 wave, some sorter, some longer, mostly shorter,(someway shorter thanks to the lawn mower height), 12 so far and I add more when I get extra wire. 100 watts I work from here in Maryland to US west coast, Caribbean and into Europe and north Africa. I am happy for now but want to get more vertical height some day. Radials are sections of free 2 each 1000 foot rolls of 4 pair cat 5 cable. Jim/W3FA On 8/25/2020 19:23, kevinr wrote: > From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 > feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for > the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the > counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas > stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs > for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute > some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms > impedance.? As I add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms > asymptotically. > > I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the > rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from > the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there > should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? > How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the > radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to > point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of > options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, > and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? > They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar > poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. > > Inquiring minds... > > Kevin.? KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimw3fa at gmail.com From john at kk9a.com Tue Aug 25 21:27:25 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:27:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> KD5ODS is not over thinking anything. He is on the right track, an inverted L is a much better top band antenna than a low all band horizontal wire. Kevin just needs to model his inverted L, he might be a little surprised to see which way the pattern skews. John KK9A Lyn W0LEN Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? OK, maybe just because it's fun. I get that. But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz. It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m. No radials needed. Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. Inquiring minds... Kevin. KD5ONS From barrylazar2 at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 21:28:41 2020 From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:28:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0c674e3e-b23e-efb7-91c5-c522b37c48ed@coho.net> References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> <0c674e3e-b23e-efb7-91c5-c522b37c48ed@coho.net> Message-ID: Kevin, ??? Be careful when doing these comparisons. A 1/4 wave over a ground plane unless it has a really good radial system may not be as efficient than your inverted L. What I would normally suggest is an A/B test using signal strength at the receiving station, but that has it flaws also, what's the pattern. 73, Barry K3NDM On 8/25/2020 8:21 PM, kevinr wrote: > I am hearing quite a difference between my inverted V and my 1/4 wave > over a ground plane.? For the last few weeks I've been hearing less > noise on the vertical.? Enough less to pull more ops out of the > noise.? When I try the inverted L I expect there to be a little more > noise than the vertical, but less than the doublet. Now to test that > hypothesis. > > ?? Kevin.? KD5ONS > > > On 8/25/20 5:04 PM, David Gilbert wrote: >> >> Pretty sure there are some significant pattern differences between >> ANY horizontal antenna and a vertical one on 160m ... at least at >> heights practical for amateur radio purposes. >> >> That's probably why. >> >> Dave? AB7E >> >> >> On 8/25/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>> Good gracious.? Why does everyone overthink 160m?? OK, maybe just >>> because it's fun.? I get that. >>> >>> But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot >>> EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz.? It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m.? >>> No radials needed. >>> >>> Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on >>> 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). >>> >>> I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. >>> >>> 73 >>> Lyn, W0LEN >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net >>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM >>> To: Elecraft Reflector >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters >>> >>> ? From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 >>> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for >>> the >>> vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for the >>> counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas >>> stored >>> in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the >>> counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter >>> lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I >>> add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >>> >>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the >>> rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from >>> the >>> vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there >>> should be >>> some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion.? How strongly >>> does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation >>> pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to point it from >>> 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between >>> 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks >>> maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain.? They can break any >>> antenna lower than 80 feet above ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear >>> out any dead limbs across the road. >>> >>> Inquiring minds... >>> >>> Kevin.? KD5ONS >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to barrylazar2 at gmail.com From w3tb.ted at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 21:39:40 2020 From: w3tb.ted at gmail.com (Ted Edwards W3TB) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 20:39:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> <0c674e3e-b23e-efb7-91c5-c522b37c48ed@coho.net> Message-ID: So Michael ? what do you use for a baking between the open wire feeder and the coaxial outputs of the KPA500? Go go with noises of a vertical antenna, a separate quiet receiving antenna like a K9AY is helpful. Important is to have fun. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 20:31 Barry LaZar wrote: > Kevin, > > > > Be careful when doing these comparisons. A 1/4 wave over a ground > > plane unless it has a really good radial system may not be as efficient > > than your inverted L. What I would normally suggest is an A/B test using > > signal strength at the receiving station, but that has it flaws also, > > what's the pattern. > > > > 73, > > > > Barry > > > > K3NDM > > > > On 8/25/2020 8:21 PM, kevinr wrote: > > > I am hearing quite a difference between my inverted V and my 1/4 wave > > > over a ground plane. For the last few weeks I've been hearing less > > > noise on the vertical. Enough less to pull more ops out of the > > > noise. When I try the inverted L I expect there to be a little more > > > noise than the vertical, but less than the doublet. Now to test that > > > hypothesis. > > > > > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > > > > > > > On 8/25/20 5:04 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > >> > > >> Pretty sure there are some significant pattern differences between > > >> ANY horizontal antenna and a vertical one on 160m ... at least at > > >> heights practical for amateur radio purposes. > > >> > > >> That's probably why. > > >> > > >> Dave AB7E > > >> > > >> > > >> On 8/25/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > >>> Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? OK, maybe just > > >>> because it's fun. I get that. > > >>> > > >>> But as to operation, I have one (1) antenna, and it is a 360 foot > > >>> EDZ (dipole) cut for 3.5 MHz. It's great on all bands, 160 - 6m. > > >>> No radials needed. > > >>> > > >>> Specifically I worked 47 of the 50 states in one 24 hour period on > > >>> 160m (holdouts were AK, HI and NV - all picked up within a day or two). > > >>> > > >>> I could 'splain more, if anyone is interested. > > >>> > > >>> 73 > > >>> Lyn, W0LEN > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > > >>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:24 PM > > >>> To: Elecraft Reflector > > >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters > > >>> > > >>> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 > > >>> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for > > >>> the > > >>> vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the > > >>> counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas > > >>> stored > > >>> in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the > > >>> counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter > > >>> lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I > > >>> add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. > > >>> > > >>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the > > >>> rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from > > >>> the > > >>> vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there > > >>> should be > > >>> some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly > > >>> does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation > > >>> pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from > > >>> 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between > > >>> 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks > > >>> maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any > > >>> antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear > > >>> out any dead limbs across the road. > > >>> > > >>> Inquiring minds... > > >>> > > >>> Kevin. KD5ONS > > >>> > > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > > >>> Elecraft mailing list > > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > >>> > > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >>> Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com > > >>> > > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > > >>> Elecraft mailing list > > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > >>> > > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >>> Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com > > >> > > >> ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to barrylazar2 at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to w3tb.ted at gmail.com -- 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and G?PWW and thinking about operating CW: "Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't." From ab7echo at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 23:14:49 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 20:14:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> Message-ID: If you are going to go with buried radials, I don't think 4 or 5 of them is going to do a very good job for you. Like N7WS recommended, look up N6LF's work and read it carefully. Seriously. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/25/2020 5:31 PM, kevinr wrote: > I have to be very careful of raised wires on my property.? If they are > not above the height of an elk's antlers I am in trouble.? I plan to > bury them.? This is something I've never done before which has its own > merit.? I have plenty of wire scrap from broken antennas so the > non-resonant, buried radials work better for my circumstances.? I need > to calculate the feed point impedance to see if I need to design a > balun for the system to work.? Once my main project is done I'll have > more time for modeling each method. > > ?? Thanks for all the ideas guys, > > ?????? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS > > > On 8/25/20 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: >> You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. >> (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/)? He has written more than you ever >> want to know about vertical antennas, >> >> More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be >> elevated?? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some >> effort should be made to get all of the currents the same. The last >> thing you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened >> vertical (which is what an L is).? There is evidence that elevated >> radials are an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials.? >> Mine are on the ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up >> radiator height to raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury >> theirs and I don't have room for full length radials anyway in my >> cactus patch.? See my QRZ page for evidence. >> >> My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the >> horizontal wire, but it's negligible. >> >> Wes? N7WS >> >> On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: >>> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each >>> ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One >>> leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four >>> legs for the counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken >>> wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do >>> all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or >>> can I substitute some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should >>> somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add more radials that >>> number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >>> >>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with >>> the rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place >>> from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But >>> there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal >>> portion.? How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion >>> effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property >>> allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I >>> have plenty of options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road >>> used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of >>> this mountain.? They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above >>> ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the >>> road. >>> >>> Inquiring minds... >>> >>> Kevin.? KD5ONS >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com From gene.sochor at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 25 23:30:11 2020 From: gene.sochor at sbcglobal.net (Gene Sochor) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 22:30:11 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Piglet and PigKnob Sold References: <985d8550-8b9d-e78a-ce48-82e21079a852.ref@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <985d8550-8b9d-e78a-ce48-82e21079a852@sbcglobal.net> The Pignology Piglet/PigKnob package has been sold.? Thanks to those who expressed interest so quickly! 73, Gene N9SW From wunder at wunderwood.org Tue Aug 25 23:38:48 2020 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 20:38:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> Message-ID: <978E97F2-B60D-48A6-A139-7D409068F865@wunderwood.org> ON4UN's Low Band DXing book is on sale for $20 right now. Get that and you?ll know as much as anybody about radials. https://www.arrl.org/shop/ON4UN-s-Low-Band-DXing wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:14 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > > If you are going to go with buried radials, I don't think 4 or 5 of them is going to do a very good job for you. > > Like N7WS recommended, look up N6LF's work and read it carefully. Seriously. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > > > > On 8/25/2020 5:31 PM, kevinr wrote: >> I have to be very careful of raised wires on my property. If they are not above the height of an elk's antlers I am in trouble. I plan to bury them. This is something I've never done before which has its own merit. I have plenty of wire scrap from broken antennas so the non-resonant, buried radials work better for my circumstances. I need to calculate the feed point impedance to see if I need to design a balun for the system to work. Once my main project is done I'll have more time for modeling each method. >> >> Thanks for all the ideas guys, >> >> 73, Kevin. KD5ONS >> >> >> On 8/25/20 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: >>> You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/) He has written more than you ever want to know about vertical antennas, >>> >>> More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be elevated? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some effort should be made to get all of the currents the same. The last thing you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened vertical (which is what an L is). There is evidence that elevated radials are an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials. Mine are on the ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up radiator height to raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury theirs and I don't have room for full length radials anyway in my cactus patch. See my QRZ page for evidence. >>> >>> My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the horizontal wire, but it's negligible. >>> >>> Wes N7WS >>> >>> On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: >>>> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four legs for the counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I substitute some shorter lengths? The feedpoint should somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I add more radials that number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >>>> >>>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system? My property allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of options. Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this mountain. They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above ground. Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. >>>> >>>> Inquiring minds... >>>> >>>> Kevin. KD5ONS >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From wa8jxm at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 00:02:53 2020 From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (WA8JXM - Ken) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 00:02:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <06cf01d67b3a$568c4040$03a4c0c0$@LNAINC.com> <0c674e3e-b23e-efb7-91c5-c522b37c48ed@coho.net> Message-ID: <300a3049-b863-863f-ee5b-e1ad9d7ec91a@gmail.com> FWIW, I use WSPR to compare antennas.? That usually gives me a comparison list of more than a dozen receive stations.? I do multiple transmissions and then compare the differences.?? There may be propagation changes during the different transmission periods but a couple of repeats seems to average that out.?? It not only provides data in different directions but also different distances. To get a same time comparison, I have used dual transmitters on slightly different frequencies but that gets complicated. Ken WA8JXM On 8/25/2020 9:28 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > ??? Be careful when doing these comparisons. A 1/4 wave over a ground > plane unless it has a really good radial system may not be as > efficient than your inverted L. What I would normally suggest is an > A/B test using signal strength at the receiving station, but that has > it flaws also, what's the pattern. From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed Aug 26 01:30:05 2020 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:30:05 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: <202008260530.07Q5U8pk017626@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Kevinr, I have an inverted-L on 630m (that is 475 KHz) and is simply a vertical section with one horizontal section. A quarter wave vertical for 1.8 MHz would be 137-foot high so 80 foot is going to be short. The horizontal wires add capacitance to the top end of the vertical effectively shortening the length needed for resonance. My inv-L is only 43-foot high (1/4WL= 524-feet) so its not very efficient and requires a big loading coil in series to resonate. If you have four top-hat wires that may work better to shorten the needed vertical. But probably still need a loading coil. Use EZNEC to model it and it will provide a close est of the antenna Z. I modified my MFJ-269B to operate 400-800 KHz and directly measured mine; adjusted coil to reach resonance. Also do not forget it also needs ground radials (more the merrier)! I only had a 100-foot square patch of ground for my inv-L so radials are very short as well. But my signal has been heard 4,000 miles away with 4w EIRP (100w output from amp). Antenna is currently down. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From albin.stigo at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 06:22:09 2020 From: albin.stigo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QWxiaW4gU3RpZ8O2?=) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:22:09 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others Message-ID: Hi again, I wonder if anyone has digikey/mouser part numbers for the K2's AF gain 5k audio-taper pot and also for the 5k linear pots (keyer, power etc). They are a bit worn on mine. 73, Albin SM6WJM From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 06:49:17 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 06:49:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] much useful information, not expected Message-ID: <5f463e35.1c69fb81.f1642.6b14@mx.google.com> I joined several Elecraft lists to help me evaluate different purchase options...a K4 is not in my foreseeable future, but the others are. I am mostly interested in the KX2 and KX3. But I am writing to express appreciation for all the unexpected bits if important info that I was not aware I was missing. ~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE On the banks of the Piscataqua From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 07:25:56 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:25:56 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] APF Primer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The K3 APF has a very sharp peak (about 30 Hz @ 3 dB) but broader shoulders (about 300 Hz wide). It is not in the AGC loop, so any signals inside the bandwidth set by the bandwidth control may activate the AGC. Therefore, if you have nearby strong signals, you should reduce the bandwidth to keep them from affecting the signal you are peaking with the APF. But if you reduce the bandwidth below 300 Hz, then you will cut into the shoulders. This starts to have a negative effect on CW intelligibility. For some biological reason that I don't understand, the "context" provided by the shoulders helps overcome the ringing effect of the very narrow peak. High noise levels also negatively impact the usefulness of the sharp peak, because of the ringing. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 25/08/2020 23:49, Fred Jensen wrote: > Kevin: > > 1)? For a K3, APF seems to be very dependent on current AGC action. If > there are very strong signals close in and the AGC is doing its thing, > APF doesn't seem to work.? You can adjust the AGC parameters, however my > experience is that I use APF infrequently enough that it's better to > adjust the AGC to non-APF situations. > > 2)? The APF will ring, it is very narrow.? With APF on, using a wider > DSP BW [400 or 500 Hz] will help some.? Tuning just off the peak, if > possible, can also help although even at 1 Hz tuning, sometimes that's > hard. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > On 8/24/2020 7:33 PM, kevinr wrote: >> I have used APF a number of times.? Sometimes it worked, but often the >> ringing makes it hard to hear anything intelligible. >> >> I have a two families of questions to hopefully remedy my problem. >> >> 1) What are the best band conditions to try APF?? Does it work under >> medium QSB against medium to high noise levels?? Is it better on 80, >> 40, or 20 meters? >> >> 2) What are the procedures to use APF on your K3, KX2, KX3, etc.? How >> should I set the bandwidth of the filter I'm already using? How do I >> peak the APF performance?? Does the set up change on a per band basis >> or does one setting fit all cases? >> >> As I mentioned, I have gotten it to work well a few times, but usually >> the signal sounds buried in a hard walled well.? Then I get emails >> telling me how well it worked during ECN.? My interest is renewed, >> hence my questions. >> >> Help? >> >> ?? Kevin.? KD5ONS From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 07:36:53 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:36:53 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> Message-ID: <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> Kevin, My advice is to get Moxon's book, "Wire Antennas for All Locations." Follow his advice, which is (roughly): use four elevated radials at a level higher than an Elk's antlers. Make the radials equal in length, about 0.15 wavelength long, connect them together, and add an inductance in this common ground lead to resonate them. This helps equalize the currents in the radials, which keeps your radiation angle low. Do not use buried radials unless you have room for at least 16 of them. In that case they can also be about 0.15 wl long. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 26/08/2020 3:31, kevinr wrote: > I have to be very careful of raised wires on my property.? If they are > not above the height of an elk's antlers I am in trouble.? I plan to > bury them.? This is something I've never done before which has its own > merit.? I have plenty of wire scrap from broken antennas so the > non-resonant, buried radials work better for my circumstances.? I need > to calculate the feed point impedance to see if I need to design a balun > for the system to work.? Once my main project is done I'll have more > time for modeling each method. > > ?? Thanks for all the ideas guys, > > ?????? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS > > > On 8/25/20 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: >> You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. >> (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/)? He has written more than you ever >> want to know about vertical antennas, >> >> More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be >> elevated?? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some effort >> should be made to get all of the currents the same.? The last thing >> you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened vertical >> (which is what an L is).? There is evidence that elevated radials are >> an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials.? Mine are on the >> ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up radiator height to >> raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury theirs and I don't have >> room for full length radials anyway in my cactus patch.? See my QRZ >> page for evidence. >> >> My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the horizontal >> wire, but it's negligible. >> >> Wes? N7WS >> >> On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: >>> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each ~130 >>> feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One leg for >>> the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four legs for >>> the counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken wire antennas >>> stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do all of the >>> legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or can I >>> substitute some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should somewhere >>> above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add more radials that number will >>> reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >>> >>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with the >>> rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place from >>> the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But there >>> should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal portion. >>> How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion effect the >>> radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property allows me to >>> point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I have plenty of >>> options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road used by >>> loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of this >>> mountain.? They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above >>> ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the road. >>> >>> Inquiring minds... >>> >>> Kevin.? KD5ONS From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 07:39:30 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:39:30 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <453b6f8b-f516-2fd7-af70-88185ca7cf6c@gmail.com> I forgot to add: two shortend, elevated radials, fed as described below, is only slightly poorer (about 1 dB) than four. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ . On 26/08/2020 14:36, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Kevin, > > My advice is to get Moxon's book, "Wire Antennas for All Locations." > Follow his advice, which is (roughly): use four elevated radials at a > level higher than an Elk's antlers. Make the radials equal in length, > about 0.15 wavelength long, connect them together, and add an inductance > in this common ground lead to resonate them. This helps equalize the > currents in the radials, which keeps your radiation angle low. > > Do not use buried radials unless you have room for at least 16 of them. > In that case they can also be about 0.15 wl long. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > On 26/08/2020 3:31, kevinr wrote: >> I have to be very careful of raised wires on my property.? If they are >> not above the height of an elk's antlers I am in trouble.? I plan to >> bury them.? This is something I've never done before which has its own >> merit.? I have plenty of wire scrap from broken antennas so the >> non-resonant, buried radials work better for my circumstances.? I need >> to calculate the feed point impedance to see if I need to design a >> balun for the system to work.? Once my main project is done I'll have >> more time for modeling each method. >> >> ??? Thanks for all the ideas guys, >> >> ??????? 73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS >> >> >> On 8/25/20 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: >>> You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. >>> (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/)? He has written more than you ever >>> want to know about vertical antennas, >>> >>> More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be >>> elevated?? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some >>> effort should be made to get all of the currents the same.? The last >>> thing you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened >>> vertical (which is what an L is).? There is evidence that elevated >>> radials are an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials. >>> Mine are on the ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up >>> radiator height to raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury >>> theirs and I don't have room for full length radials anyway in my >>> cactus patch.? See my QRZ page for evidence. >>> >>> My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the >>> horizontal wire, but it's negligible. >>> >>> Wes? N7WS >>> >>> On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: >>>> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each >>>> ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters.? One >>>> leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna.? Four >>>> legs for the counterpoise (ground plane).? There are many broken >>>> wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do >>>> all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or >>>> can I substitute some shorter lengths?? The feedpoint should >>>> somewhere above 50 ohms impedance.? As I add more radials that >>>> number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. >>>> >>>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with >>>> the rest of it horizontal.? Most of the radiation should take place >>>> from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point.? But >>>> there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal >>>> portion. How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion >>>> effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system?? My property >>>> allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I >>>> have plenty of options.? Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road >>>> used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of >>>> this mountain.? They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above >>>> ground.? Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the >>>> road. >>>> >>>> Inquiring minds... >>>> >>>> Kevin.? KD5ONS From k4to.dave at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 08:07:25 2020 From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 08:07:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <453b6f8b-f516-2fd7-af70-88185ca7cf6c@gmail.com> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> <453b6f8b-f516-2fd7-af70-88185ca7cf6c@gmail.com> Message-ID: The title is actually "HF Antennas For All Locations", not to be critical. It is a classic and well worth having. Dave, K4TO On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:40 AM Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > I forgot to add: two shortend, elevated radials, fed as described below, > is only slightly poorer (about 1 dB) than four. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > CWops no. 5 > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > . > On 26/08/2020 14:36, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > > Kevin, > > > > My advice is to get Moxon's book, "Wire Antennas for All Locations." > > Follow his advice, which is (roughly): use four elevated radials at a > > level higher than an Elk's antlers. Make the radials equal in length, > > about 0.15 wavelength long, connect them together, and add an inductance > > in this common ground lead to resonate them. This helps equalize the > > currents in the radials, which keeps your radiation angle low. > > > > Do not use buried radials unless you have room for at least 16 of them. > > In that case they can also be about 0.15 wl long. > > > > 73, > > Victor, 4X6GP > > Rehovot, Israel > > Formerly K2VCO > > CWops no. 5 > > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 26/08/2020 3:31, kevinr wrote: > >> I have to be very careful of raised wires on my property. If they are > >> not above the height of an elk's antlers I am in trouble. I plan to > >> bury them. This is something I've never done before which has its own > >> merit. I have plenty of wire scrap from broken antennas so the > >> non-resonant, buried radials work better for my circumstances. I need > >> to calculate the feed point impedance to see if I need to design a > >> balun for the system to work. Once my main project is done I'll have > >> more time for modeling each method. > >> > >> Thanks for all the ideas guys, > >> > >> 73, Kevin. KD5ONS > >> > >> > >> On 8/25/20 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: > >>> You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. > >>> (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/) He has written more than you ever > >>> want to know about vertical antennas, > >>> > >>> More specifically to your case, are you planning the radials to be > >>> elevated? If so, they need to be the same length, in fact some > >>> effort should be made to get all of the currents the same. The last > >>> thing you want is a fifty ohm feedpoint impedance with a shortened > >>> vertical (which is what an L is). There is evidence that elevated > >>> radials are an improvement over on-the-ground or buried radials. > >>> Mine are on the ground, mainly because 1) I didn't want to give up > >>> radiator height to raise the radials, 2) all of the big guns bury > >>> theirs and I don't have room for full length radials anyway in my > >>> cactus patch. See my QRZ page for evidence. > >>> > >>> My modeling shows a little bit of directivity away from the > >>> horizontal wire, but it's negligible. > >>> > >>> Wes N7WS > >>> > >>> On 8/25/2020 4:23 PM, kevinr wrote: > >>>> From what I can find, and what I can calculate, five wires, each > >>>> ~130 feet long, could make a nice inverted L for 160 meters. One > >>>> leg for the vertical and horizontal portion of the antenna. Four > >>>> legs for the counterpoise (ground plane). There are many broken > >>>> wire antennas stored in my shed which are fodder for the radials. Do > >>>> all of the legs for the counterpoise need to be 1/4 wavelength or > >>>> can I substitute some shorter lengths? The feedpoint should > >>>> somewhere above 50 ohms impedance. As I add more radials that > >>>> number will reach 50 ohms asymptotically. > >>>> > >>>> I can get the vertical part up to 70 or 80 feet above ground with > >>>> the rest of it horizontal. Most of the radiation should take place > >>>> from the vertical part since it is closer to the feed point. But > >>>> there should be some effect from the direction of the horizontal > >>>> portion. How strongly does the direction of the horizontal portion > >>>> effect the radiation pattern of the antenna system? My property > >>>> allows me to point it from 300 degrees around to 200 degrees so I > >>>> have plenty of options. Between 200 and 300 degrees there is a road > >>>> used by loggers, and the folks maintaining the towers at the top of > >>>> this mountain. They can break any antenna lower than 80 feet above > >>>> ground. Spar poles and cranes clear out any dead limbs across the > >>>> road. > >>>> > >>>> Inquiring minds... > >>>> > >>>> Kevin. KD5ONS > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4to at arrl.net From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 08:51:05 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:51:05 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> <453b6f8b-f516-2fd7-af70-88185ca7cf6c@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oops. Too lazy to go upstairs to look at it and too old to remember correctly. But it really is a good book. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 26/08/2020 15:07, Dave Sublette wrote: > The title is actually "HF Antennas For All Locations", not to be > critical. It is a classic and well worth having. > > Dave, K4TO From dave at w8fgu.com Wed Aug 26 09:10:13 2020 From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:10:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1742ae3e708.2852.96e80410205cf590e45b6250d389e5fb@w8fgu.com> Hi Albin, The 5K audio taper pot is part number 520003. The linear pots (4 of them) are part number 520004. Hope this helps... 73, Dave, W8FGU On August 26, 2020 06:24:17 Albin Stig? wrote: > Hi again, > > I wonder if anyone has digikey/mouser part numbers for the K2's AF > gain 5k audio-taper pot and also for the 5k linear pots (keyer, power > etc). They are a bit worn on mine. > > > 73, Albin SM6WJM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at w8fgu.com From jrf1959 at earthlink.net Wed Aug 26 09:23:59 2020 From: jrf1959 at earthlink.net (Jim KO5V) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:23:59 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Elecraft] K2: FS - Kenwood 43S Mic Message-ID: <318218617.1335.1598448239675@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Good Morning, I've been using an MH2 mic with my K2, and it works well - I get good signal reports. However, the mic cord has repeatedly failed with randomly open wires inside of the curly-cord, so I bought this Kenwood MC-43S as a possible replacement. It's too small for my catcher's mitt-sized hand, so I'm not even going to try it, and will put a new cable on the MH2. I bought this from another ham a couple of weeks ago. He said, and it looks like, it has never been used - but I can't guarantee that. It has an 8-pin connector (will fit the K2), and a page of French and English instructions Currently, HRO is currently selling this for $54.95. I am asking $40.00, OBO, including USA shipping. Payment by PayPal. Please contact me off-line by email at (KO5V at arrl dot net). Thanks for the bandwidth. 73, Jim KO5V From c-hawley at illinois.edu Wed Aug 26 10:33:52 2020 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:33:52 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How about these...? You'll have to measure the dimensions of your old pot to see. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tt-electronics-bi/P090S-14T20BR10K/987-1277-ND/2408854 P090S-14T20BR10K TT Electronics/BI | Potentiometers, Variable Resistors | DigiKey Order today, ships today. P090S-14T20BR10K ? 10k Ohm 1 Gang Linear Through Hole Potentiometer Detent 1 Kierros Conductive Plastic 0.03W, 1/32W PC Pins, Board Locks from TT Electronics/BI. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics. www.digikey.com Chuck Hawley c-hawley at illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW ________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Albin Stig? Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 5:22 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others Hi again, I wonder if anyone has digikey/mouser part numbers for the K2's AF gain 5k audio-taper pot and also for the 5k linear pots (keyer, power etc). They are a bit worn on mine. 73, Albin SM6WJM ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu From c-hawley at illinois.edu Wed Aug 26 10:42:55 2020 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:42:55 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Here's a 5 K...hare to find the exact one without seeing it in person. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/bourns-inc/PTV09A-4015F-B502/PTV09A-4015F-B502-ND/3781115 Chuck Hawley c-hawley at illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles ________________________________ From: hawley, charles j jr Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:33 AM To: Albin Stig? ; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others How about these...? You'll have to measure the dimensions of your old pot to see. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tt-electronics-bi/P090S-14T20BR10K/987-1277-ND/2408854 P090S-14T20BR10K TT Electronics/BI | Potentiometers, Variable Resistors | DigiKey Order today, ships today. P090S-14T20BR10K ? 10k Ohm 1 Gang Linear Through Hole Potentiometer Detent 1 Kierros Conductive Plastic 0.03W, 1/32W PC Pins, Board Locks from TT Electronics/BI. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics. www.digikey.com Chuck Hawley c-hawley at illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW ________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Albin Stig? Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 5:22 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others Hi again, I wonder if anyone has digikey/mouser part numbers for the K2's AF gain 5k audio-taper pot and also for the 5k linear pots (keyer, power etc). They are a bit worn on mine. 73, Albin SM6WJM ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu From 99sunset at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 11:10:23 2020 From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:10:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 40 meter SSB net 8-23-2020 Message-ID: WM6P STEVE GA K3S Net Control WY3T TIM FL K3S K8NU CARL OH K3S K4FBI MIKE VA KB9AVO PAUL IN K3S WB9JNZ ERIC IL K3 WA4D MIKE VA TS-990 K6VWE STAN MI K3 Conditions were fair. Short skip into FL was strong. From dave at w8fgu.com Wed Aug 26 11:16:04 2020 From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:16:04 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I grabbed one of the audio pots out of my stock here and it says it is an Alpha brand marked A5K. The linear pots are marked B5K. A quick search did not produce any that I could find. Some similar, but not sure. I know Elecraft has a number in their stock, so your best bet is to order directly from them if economically feasible. 73, Dave, W8FGU On 8/26/2020 10:42:55 AM, "hawley, charles j jr" wrote: >Here's a 5 K...hare to find the exact one without seeing it in person. > >https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/bourns-inc/PTV09A-4015F-B502/PTV09A-4015F-B502-ND/3781115 > >Chuck Hawley >c-hawley at illinois.edu > > Amateur Radio, KE9UW > aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles > >________________________________ >From: hawley, charles j jr >Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:33 AM >To: Albin Stig? ; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others > >How about these...? You'll have to measure the dimensions of your old pot to see. > >https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tt-electronics-bi/P090S-14T20BR10K/987-1277-ND/2408854 >P090S-14T20BR10K TT Electronics/BI | Potentiometers, Variable Resistors | DigiKey >Order today, ships today. P090S-14T20BR10K ? 10k Ohm 1 Gang Linear Through Hole Potentiometer Detent 1 Kierros Conductive Plastic 0.03W, 1/32W PC Pins, Board Locks from TT Electronics/BI. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics. >www.digikey.com > > >Chuck Hawley >c-hawley at illinois.edu > > Amateur Radio, KE9UW > > >________________________________ >From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Albin Stig? >Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 5:22 AM >To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] Part number for K2 AF gain potentiometer and others > >Hi again, > >I wonder if anyone has digikey/mouser part numbers for the K2's AF >gain 5k audio-taper pot and also for the 5k linear pots (keyer, power >etc). They are a bit worn on mine. > > >73, Albin SM6WJM >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to dave at w8fgu.com From jrf1959 at earthlink.net Wed Aug 26 12:00:10 2020 From: jrf1959 at earthlink.net (Jim KO5V) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:00:10 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Elecraft] K2: FS - Kenwood 43S Mic Message-ID: <352205892.3469.1598457611025@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The mic has been sold. Thanks. 73, Jim KO5V From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 26 12:48:05 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:48:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> Message-ID: Right on, John! Also N7WS, who urges study of N6LF's authoritative site. Rudy is a major contributor to ARRL Handbook and Antenna Book. And to AB7E who urges modeling. You can't model radial/counterpoise systems without a far more capable version of NEC, but you CAN model the difference between horizontal and vertical antennas and heights of both. Lyn's expectations are modest. Many of us want to work 5,000 - 8,000 mile paths, which is what it takes to work 175 countries from W6 in 14 years -- it's FAR easier to work EU east of the MS river, and EU has FAR more countries with active hams than AS and OC. I know -- I lived in IL. One of my goals is QRP WAS. In about ten years, I still need VT and SC. And I've got three 160M verticals, all using my tower as a passive reflector to give me a few dB in three directions! Here are slides for a talk I've done at Pacificon, Visalia, and to several local clubs. It's mostly about antennas, mostly about radial/counterpoise systems. None of it is my original work, but rather summarizes the best work by others like N6LF. http://k9yc.com/160MPacificon.pdf WAS from east of the MS is also far easier than from W6 -- there are only seven west coast states, all with superstations that are easy to work -- CA, OR, WA, AK, HI, AZ, NV. There are also big stations in MT, ID, NM, and UT. 73, Jim K9YC On 8/25/2020 6:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > KD5ODS is not over thinking anything. He is on the right track, an inverted > L is a much better top band antenna than a low all band horizontal wire. > Kevin just needs to model his inverted L, he might be a little surprised to > see which way the pattern skews. > > John KK9A > > > Lyn W0LEN > > Good gracious. Why does everyone overthink 160m? From ab7echo at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 12:59:59 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:59:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> Message-ID: When I made that suggestion (based upon his comment that he was only going to have about 4 counterpoise wires), I thought that he was going to be using elevated wires ... i.e., about ten feet high or so.?? NEC2 can model that reasonably OK.? Four buried radials won't model well at all in NEC2, but it also doesn't make a very good antenna. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/26/2020 9:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > Right on, John! Also N7WS, who urges study of N6LF's authoritative > site. Rudy is a major contributor to ARRL Handbook and Antenna Book. > And to AB7E who urges modeling. You can't model radial/counterpoise > systems without a far more capable version of NEC, but you CAN model > the difference between horizontal and vertical antennas and heights of > both. From ab7echo at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 13:07:24 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:07:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> Radiation angle for a vertical antenna is much more a function of the ground conductivity out several wavelengths than it has to do with the current balance in the radials. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/26/2020 4:36 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Kevin, > > My advice is to get Moxon's book, "Wire Antennas for All Locations." > Follow his advice, which is (roughly): use four elevated radials at a > level higher than an Elk's antlers. Make the radials equal in length, > about 0.15 wavelength long, connect them together, and add an > inductance in this common ground lead to resonate them. This helps > equalize the currents in the radials, which keeps your radiation angle > low. > > Do not use buried radials unless you have room for at least 16 of > them. In that case they can also be about 0.15 wl long. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel From w5sum at comcast.net Wed Aug 26 13:23:16 2020 From: w5sum at comcast.net (Ronnie Hull) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:23:16 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have 100? long wire up 30? and am working good stuff on 160 nightly!! Ron W5SUM Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2020, at 12:10 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > ? > When I made that suggestion (based upon his comment that he was only going to have about 4 counterpoise wires), I thought that he was going to be using elevated wires ... i.e., about ten feet high or so. NEC2 can model that reasonably OK. Four buried radials won't model well at all in NEC2, but it also doesn't make a very good antenna. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > >> On 8/26/2020 9:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> Right on, John! Also N7WS, who urges study of N6LF's authoritative site. Rudy is a major contributor to ARRL Handbook and Antenna Book. And to AB7E who urges modeling. You can't model radial/counterpoise systems without a far more capable version of NEC, but you CAN model the difference between horizontal and vertical antennas and heights of both. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w5sum at comcast.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 26 13:42:51 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:42:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2565935b-ae35-877c-5a98-099920cde04b@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/26/2020 10:07 AM, David Gilbert wrote: > Radiation angle for a vertical antenna is much more a function of the > ground conductivity out several wavelengths than it has to do with the > current balance in the radials. Right, but N6LF has shown that current balance in radials, especially elevated ones, minimizes ground losses. Yes, elevated radials can be modeled in less capable versions of NEC. All of this is addressed in my slides. In all cases, the model must use soil conductivity representative of the QTH. This is selected from a menu. Soil conductivity affects us two ways. First, losses underneath the antenna. Better radial/counterpoise systems can reduce this a lot. Second, loss in the far field, over which we have no control, and those losses can vary a lot if soil varies a lot in different directions. For example, a vertical on a beach has much less far field loss, and much more energy at low angles, in the direction of the water and much more far field loss and higher angle energy than in directions over land. 73, Jim K9YC From w2kj at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 26 13:51:11 2020 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info References: Message-ID: Howdy Gang. Any news about K4 shipping? Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August. Take and stay healthy. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From ab7echo at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 14:11:24 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:11:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <2565935b-ae35-877c-5a98-099920cde04b@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> <2565935b-ae35-877c-5a98-099920cde04b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Yes, certainly current balance would minimize ground losses.? I hadn't thought much about it before, but I guess it's kind of intuitive in that it's analogous to lower return resistance losses due to better use of? parallel ground paths. 73, Dave? AB7E On 8/26/2020 10:42 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/26/2020 10:07 AM, David Gilbert wrote: >> Radiation angle for a vertical antenna is much more a function of the >> ground conductivity out several wavelengths than it has to do with >> the current balance in the radials. > > Right, but N6LF has shown that current balance in radials, especially > elevated ones, minimizes ground losses.? Yes, elevated radials can be > modeled in less capable versions of NEC. All of this is addressed in > my slides. > > In all cases, the model must use soil conductivity representative of > the QTH. This is selected from a menu. Soil conductivity affects us > two ways. First, losses underneath the antenna. Better > radial/counterpoise systems can reduce this a lot. Second, loss in the > far field, over which we have no control, and those losses can vary a > lot if soil varies a lot in different directions. For example, a > vertical on a beach has much less far field loss, and much more energy > at low angles, in the direction of the water and much more far field > loss and higher angle energy than in directions over land. > > 73, Jim K9YC From john at kk9a.com Wed Aug 26 14:32:19 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:32:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> With only four radials he might be wasting 2/3 of his RF however I would still take that inefficient inverted L over a 30' high dipole on 160m. John KK9A David Gilbert AB7E wrote: Four buried radials won't model well at all in NEC2, but it also doesn't make a very good antenna. 73, Dave AB7E From ab7echo at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 14:50:11 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:50:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> References: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> Message-ID: <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> Yes, I completely agree with that.? I'm sure the folks with low EDZ's and large horizontal loops and low dipoles make contacts on 160m, but almost any half decent vertical will reach out further better. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/26/2020 11:32 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > With only four radials he might be wasting 2/3 of his RF however I > would still take that inefficient inverted L over a 30' high dipole on > 160m. > > John KK9A > > David Gilbert AB7E wrote: > > ? Four buried radials won't model well at > all in NEC2, but it also doesn't make a very good antenna. > > 73, > Dave?? AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com From comichaven at charter.net Wed Aug 26 15:02:27 2020 From: comichaven at charter.net (Wb9msm) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:02:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with FT8 at .1 Watt of Power Message-ID: <1598468547612-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi All - I am really enjoying my K2/100 very much. It really is a nice radio. I recently got my WAS endorsement sticker for QRP. It was a great time chasing the states around the bands. I operated my K2 in the range of 4.5 Watts. There was a bit of power creep up and down from that but minimal at best. Just the other night I decided to try making contacts on FT8 with only .1 Watt(100 milliwatts) and was really impressed that I was making contacts with that low of power. I do not have an actual wattmeter that will measure that low of power. Can anyone tell me if the .1 Watt setting on the K2 is in the ballpark of that amount of power. This radio really has been impressing me with all of its capabilities. I am continually amazed at what it does! I am using an old RigBlaster which interfaces with my ACER Aspire perfectly for FT8. I could not be happier to say the least. If anyone can share their experience with this power output question I have I would appreciate your comments. Thanks and 73, Denny WB9MSM P.S. I am thinking of going for QRPp WAS. ----- Dennis Berg -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From comichaven at charter.net Wed Aug 26 15:13:52 2020 From: comichaven at charter.net (Wb9msm) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:13:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Rig Control Software Message-ID: <1598469232761-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi All - Does anyone know of any rig control software that is available for the K2? I know that the K2 Remote is available but I would like something with more capabilities than that software. I use ACLog for logging and it works perfect with the K2 but doesn't give me rig control. Thanks for any assistance with my question and 73, Denny WB9MSM ----- Dennis Berg -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 15:17:17 2020 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:17:17 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65940a7b-7dc2-6d47-0656-40affd58f60b@gmail.com> Yes, but he can do something about current balance. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 26/08/2020 20:07, David Gilbert wrote: > > Radiation angle for a vertical antenna is much more a function of the > ground conductivity out several wavelengths than it has to do with the > current balance in the radials. > > 73, > Dave?? AB7E > > > On 8/26/2020 4:36 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >> Kevin, >> >> My advice is to get Moxon's book, "Wire Antennas for All Locations." >> Follow his advice, which is (roughly): use four elevated radials at a >> level higher than an Elk's antlers. Make the radials equal in length, >> about 0.15 wavelength long, connect them together, and add an >> inductance in this common ground lead to resonate them. This helps >> equalize the currents in the radials, which keeps your radiation angle >> low. >> >> Do not use buried radials unless you have room for at least 16 of >> them. In that case they can also be about 0.15 wl long. >> >> 73, >> Victor, 4X6GP >> Rehovot, Israel > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From tony.kaz at verizon.net Wed Aug 26 15:24:53 2020 From: tony.kaz at verizon.net (tony.kaz at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:24:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> <09c78642-a94b-ac69-4d2a-52a5892ea6d8@gmail.com> <89c3c885-44f1-ff31-10c1-4d07ac263683@gmail.com> <2565935b-ae35-877c-5a98-099920cde04b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <064801d67bde$93c70c20$bb552460$@verizon.net> As a reference, I have an 80M 4-sq with 5 elevated radials at each feed point and use a Comtek box. The radials were 1/4 wave. The pattern was terrible. Very little F/S and F/B. I measured the current in each radial. It was all over the place. I followed N6LF's info and cut the radials to 42'. I connected all 5 radials together at each feed point then added a small coil between the 5 radials and the coax shield to retune the elements. Now the current is very close with each radial and the F/S and F/B is much, much better. Read N6LF's stuff and take a look at balancing elevated radials if you go that route. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of David Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 2:11 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Yes, certainly current balance would minimize ground losses. I hadn't thought much about it before, but I guess it's kind of intuitive in that it's analogous to lower return resistance losses due to better use of parallel ground paths. 73, Dave AB7E On 8/26/2020 10:42 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/26/2020 10:07 AM, David Gilbert wrote: >> Radiation angle for a vertical antenna is much more a function of the >> ground conductivity out several wavelengths than it has to do with >> the current balance in the radials. > > Right, but N6LF has shown that current balance in radials, especially > elevated ones, minimizes ground losses. Yes, elevated radials can be > modeled in less capable versions of NEC. All of this is addressed in > my slides. > > In all cases, the model must use soil conductivity representative of > the QTH. This is selected from a menu. Soil conductivity affects us > two ways. First, losses underneath the antenna. Better > radial/counterpoise systems can reduce this a lot. Second, loss in the > far field, over which we have no control, and those losses can vary a > lot if soil varies a lot in different directions. For example, a > vertical on a beach has much less far field loss, and much more energy > at low angles, in the direction of the water and much more far field > loss and higher angle energy than in directions over land. > > 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony.kaz at verizon.net From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Aug 26 15:25:33 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:25:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with FT8 at .1 Watt of Power In-Reply-To: <1598468547612-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1598468547612-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Denny, If you have the base K2 only, then it is likely accurate, even more so with the KAT2. I repaired a lot of K2s, but never thought to measure the accuracy at those low power levels even though I do have accurate low power measuring tools. The major limiting factor will be the forward voltage drop of the 1N5711 diodes. If you have an oscilloscope with a 10X probe and a 50 ohm dummy load, you can check your own K2. Measure the RF voltage across the dummy load. Power = Vp-p squared divided by 400 for a 50 ohm load. (the 'scope will display the peak to peak voltage, no need to go through a lot of conversions. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/26/2020 3:02 PM, Wb9msm wrote: > Hi All - > > I am really enjoying my K2/100 very much. It really is a nice radio. I > recently got my WAS endorsement sticker for QRP. It was a great time > chasing the states around the bands. I operated my K2 in the range of 4.5 > Watts. There was a bit of power creep up and down from that but minimal at > best. Just the other night I decided to try making contacts on FT8 with > only .1 Watt(100 milliwatts) and was really impressed that I was making > contacts with that low of power. I do not have an actual wattmeter that > will measure that low of power. Can anyone tell me if the .1 Watt setting > on the K2 is in the ballpark of that amount of power. This radio really has > been impressing me with all of its capabilities. I am continually amazed at > what it does! I am using an old RigBlaster which interfaces with my ACER > Aspire perfectly for FT8. I could not be happier to say the least. If > anyone can share their experience with this power output question I have I > would appreciate your comments. Thanks and 73, Denny WB9MSM P.S. I am > thinking of going for QRPp WAS. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Aug 26 15:33:37 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:33:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Rig Control Software In-Reply-To: <1598469232761-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1598469232761-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1093d3bb-2053-661e-6c79-6a19cb90857c@embarqmail.com> Denny, Ham Radio Deluxe works with the K2 - at least the last free version (4.???) did for me. It burns a lot of computer cycles, but that is OK on modern computers. If your computer is 'old iron', it may have a problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/26/2020 3:13 PM, Wb9msm wrote: > Hi All - > > Does anyone know of any rig control software that is available for the K2? > I know that the K2 Remote is available but I would like something with more > capabilities than that software. I use ACLog for logging and it works > perfect with the K2 but doesn't give me rig control. > > Thanks for any assistance with my question and 73, > > Denny > WB9MSM > > > > ----- > Dennis Berg > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From h3cary at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 15:49:30 2020 From: h3cary at gmail.com (Hunsdon Cary III) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:49:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X Message-ID: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> I am finally getting around to setting my KX3 Up for FT-8 and have watched several YouTube videos on setting up the KX3 and read Don Wilhelm?s excellent paper on setting up Elecraft radios for digital modes (Tnx, Don). My hang up is the radio settings tab in WSJT-X: baud rate, data bits, stop bits, PTT, etc. Any help would be appreciated! Tnx & 73, Cary, K4TM H3cary at GMail dot Com Sent from Clovelly Cottage II, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most creative Sue Cary, in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia. From dave at w8fgu.com Wed Aug 26 16:15:15 2020 From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave Van Wallaghen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:15:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Rig Control Software In-Reply-To: <1093d3bb-2053-661e-6c79-6a19cb90857c@embarqmail.com> References: <1598469232761-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <1093d3bb-2053-661e-6c79-6a19cb90857c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Denny, I use the free version of HRD to test K2's here. Like Don said, it is clock cycle hog, but works fine. With the IF buffer amp I have installed on mine, I use HDSDR to control the rig and work with SDRPlay for panadapter operation. SDRPlay is also paired up with SDRUno and it works with the K2 as well. 73, Dave, W8FGU On 8/26/2020 3:33:37 PM, "Don Wilhelm" wrote: >Denny, > >Ham Radio Deluxe works with the K2 - at least the last free version (4.???) did for me. It burns a lot of computer cycles, but that is OK on modern computers. If your computer is 'old iron', it may have a problem. > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 8/26/2020 3:13 PM, Wb9msm wrote: >>Hi All - >> >>Does anyone know of any rig control software that is available for the K2? >>I know that the K2 Remote is available but I would like something with more >>capabilities than that software. I use ACLog for logging and it works >>perfect with the K2 but doesn't give me rig control. >> >>Thanks for any assistance with my question and 73, >> >>Denny >>WB9MSM >> >> >> >>----- >>Dennis Berg >>-- >>Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >>______________________________________________________________ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >> >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to dave at w8fgu.com From scott.small at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 18:13:22 2020 From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:13:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: My current wsjt-x settings on my mac for my kx3 are: 38400,8,1,hw cat.data/pkt, rig On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 12:50 PM Hunsdon Cary III wrote: > I am finally getting around to setting my KX3 Up for FT-8 and have watched > several YouTube videos on setting up the KX3 and read Don Wilhelm?s > excellent paper on setting up Elecraft radios for digital modes (Tnx, Don). > > My hang up is the radio settings tab in WSJT-X: baud rate, data bits, > stop bits, PTT, etc. Any help would be appreciated! > Tnx & 73, > Cary, K4TM > H3cary at GMail dot Com > > Sent from Clovelly Cottage II, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the > most creative Sue Cary, in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge > mountains of Virginia. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to scott.small at gmail.com -- Scott Small From dhaines at bates.edu Wed Aug 26 19:02:05 2020 From: dhaines at bates.edu (David Haines) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:02:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> I've had good luck setting up my KX3 for FT-8., but it took awhile. I used several good sources which I'm sure other will point you to. But here's my current issue: I'm regularly getting FT-8 QSOs on 40m, 20m, and 10 m with no problems.? The other night I decided to try 17m.? My Windoze computer replied "USB device not recognized."? HUH? I been using the KX3USB and a cheap sound card in a very simple set up. Any ideas why the PC reacts this way to 17m? ? I seem to be transmitting and receiving fine on 17m.? Does it matter? david KC1DNY KX3 #08651 On 8/26/2020 3:49 PM, Hunsdon Cary III wrote: > I am finally getting around to setting my KX3 Up for FT-8 and have watched several YouTube videos on setting up the KX3 and read Don Wilhelm?s excellent paper on setting up Elecraft radios for digital modes (Tnx, Don). > > My hang up is the radio settings tab in WSJT-X: baud rate, data bits, stop bits, PTT, etc. Any help would be appreciated! > Tnx & 73, > Cary, K4TM > H3cary at GMail dot Com > > Sent from Clovelly Cottage II, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most creative Sue Cary, in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dhaines at bates.edu From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed Aug 26 19:18:16 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:18:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not the END yet! But close. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote: > > ?Howdy Gang. > > Any news about K4 shipping? > > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August. > > Take and stay healthy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From n0nb at n0nb.us Wed Aug 26 19:20:41 2020 From: n0nb at n0nb.us (Nate Bargmann) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> References: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20200826232041.ga2uw3hskjkfhio6@n0nb.us> * On 2020 26 Aug 13:52 -0500, David Gilbert wrote: > > Yes, I completely agree with that.? I'm sure the folks with low EDZ's and > large horizontal loops and low dipoles make contacts on 160m, but almost any > half decent vertical will reach out further better. A low horizontal antenna has its place, for local work especially out to a few hundred miles reliably. Horses for courses and all that. Not everything in ham radio is about DX. 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 From josh at voodoolab.com Wed Aug 26 19:49:23 2020 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:49:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> References: <0670aafb-dcc6-1848-a878-577759b1342e@triconet.org> Message-ID: N6LF is very impressive! https://www.powerelectronics.com/technologies/power-electronics-systems/article/21858857/rudy-severns-lifetime-achievement-award-winner 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Wes wrote: > > You probably should get acquainted with Rudy Severns, N6LF. (https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/) He has written more than you ever want to know about vertical antennas, > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Aug 26 19:59:26 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> Message-ID: David, It is a mystery why the computer reports that message only on 17 meters. There should be no band dependency for the USB connection. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/26/2020 7:02 PM, David Haines wrote: > I've had good luck setting up my KX3 for FT-8., but it took awhile. I > used several good sources which I'm sure other will point you to. But > here's my current issue: > > I'm regularly getting FT-8 QSOs on 40m, 20m, and 10 m with no problems. > The other night I decided to try 17m.? My Windoze computer replied "USB > device not recognized."? HUH? > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Aug 26 20:09:57 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:09:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85d33d3f-78e5-fd03-0680-83e00b1a7962@embarqmail.com> Joe, That was the goal, but consider that the fires may have impacted the schedule. Shipping one on the last day of the month meets the qualification. Be patient until Eric updates us. Stay safe, and if you are in the Western states, stay away from the fires. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/26/2020 1:51 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote: > Howdy Gang. > > Any news about K4 shipping? > > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August. > > Take and stay healthy. From ted.roycraft at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 20:12:01 2020 From: ted.roycraft at gmail.com (Ted Roycraft) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:12:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When they do start shipping it would be very interesting if they publicize the date that the shipped orders were placed. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Nr4c wrote: > Not the END yet! > > > > But close. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > > > > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr > wrote: > > > > > > ?Howdy Gang. > > > > > > Any news about K4 shipping? > > > > > > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August. > > > > > > Take and stay healthy. > > > > > > 73, Joe W2KJ > > > I QRP, therefore I am > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ted.roycraft at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Aug 26 21:19:45 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:19:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <20200826232041.ga2uw3hskjkfhio6@n0nb.us> References: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> <20200826232041.ga2uw3hskjkfhio6@n0nb.us> Message-ID: <0768fe60-4dca-41a4-b081-622bb4265bc8@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/26/2020 4:20 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > A low horizontal antenna has its place, for local work especially out to > a few hundred miles reliably. Horses for courses and all that. That's an urban myth. A low horizontal antenna is very lossy, and has much weaker radiation at ALL angles, including high ones. The origin of the myth is that ARRL Antenna plots set the peak radiation to 0dB. But when plot the vertical field strength for all heights on the same scale, you get the family of curves beginning with slide 13. Study http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf There is an optimum range of heights for high angle radiation, and it isn't low. Slide 19 shows that the optimum height is about 55 ft on 80M, and high angle drop by only 2 dB at 90 ft. Divide those heights by 2 for 40M. 73, Jim K9YC From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed Aug 26 22:34:37 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:34:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Ted Roycraft wrote: > > ? > When they do start shipping it would be very interesting if they publicize the date that the shipped orders were placed. > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Nr4c wrote: >> Not the END yet! >> >> >> >> But close. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote: >> >> > >> >> > ?Howdy Gang. >> >> > >> >> > Any news about K4 shipping? >> >> > >> >> > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August. >> >> > >> >> > Take and stay healthy. >> >> > >> >> > 73, Joe W2KJ >> >> > I QRP, therefore I am >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> >> > Elecraft mailing list >> >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> > >> >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Elecraft mailing list >> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> Message delivered to ted.roycraft at gmail.com From w5sv.dave at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 23:16:23 2020 From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:16:23 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> References: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <0EF35D58-F2E4-4059-98E9-2026AB46C455@gmail.com> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know? 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed > On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c wrote: > > More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 23:27:22 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 23:27:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <0EF35D58-F2E4-4059-98E9-2026AB46C455@gmail.com> References: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> <0EF35D58-F2E4-4059-98E9-2026AB46C455@gmail.com> Message-ID: David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are in the 1st wave of the K4 orders. Paul KB9AVO On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed wrote: > What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A > different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know? > > 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed > > > On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c wrote: > > > > More likely this information will come from us as we announce the > various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the > reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot > of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com From ghyoungman at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 23:37:24 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 23:37:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> There?s a K4 group on groups.io. There?s nothing specific to those in shipping group 1. Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote: > > ?David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are > in the 1st wave of the K4 orders. > > Paul KB9AVO > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed wrote: >> >> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A >> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know? >> >> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed >> >>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c wrote: >>> >>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot >> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com From MJGillen at yahoo.com Wed Aug 26 23:43:05 2020 From: MJGillen at yahoo.com (Michael Gillen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:43:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> References: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I did a quick search and found ?Elecraft-K4 at groups.io? > On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > There?s a K4 group on groups.io. There?s nothing specific to those in shipping group 1. > > Grant NQ5T > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote: >> >> ?David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are >> in the 1st wave of the K4 orders. >> >> Paul KB9AVO >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed wrote: >>> >>> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A >>> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know? >>> >>> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed >>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c wrote: >>>> >>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot >>> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> ...nr4c. bill >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mjgillen at yahoo.com From MJGillen at yahoo.com Wed Aug 26 23:43:05 2020 From: MJGillen at yahoo.com (Michael Gillen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:43:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> References: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I did a quick search and found ?Elecraft-K4 at groups.io? > On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > There?s a K4 group on groups.io. There?s nothing specific to those in shipping group 1. > > Grant NQ5T > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote: >> >> ?David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are >> in the 1st wave of the K4 orders. >> >> Paul KB9AVO >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed wrote: >>> >>> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A >>> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know? >>> >>> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed >>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c wrote: >>>> >>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot >>> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> ...nr4c. bill >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ghyoungman at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mjgillen at yahoo.com From ghyoungman at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 00:36:09 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 00:36:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> References: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54C155AE-6D1D-463C-9ABA-584D5734BAA0@gmail.com> PS. Frankly, there?s no real reason for yet another group dedicated to one radio. Many (most?) of the posts to that group are replicated here. And will have a wider audience of interested people here. Too many groups, too little time to read them all ?. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > There?s a K4 group on groups.io. There?s nothing specific to those in shipping group 1. > > Grant NQ5T > > Sent from my iPhone > From dandrew1 at me.com Thu Aug 27 06:15:42 2020 From: dandrew1 at me.com (David Andrews) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 06:15:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X, Article reference Message-ID: Cary, please provide reference for accessing the article by Don Wilhelm that you mentioned. 73, Dave KA1DA From w5sv.dave at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 07:14:29 2020 From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 06:14:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: <6C23EC1A-C784-45CB-8A5E-59FD49A2740E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks guys! 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed > On Aug 26, 2020, at 22:43, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote: > > I did a quick search and found ?Elecraft-K4 at groups.io? From nr4c at widomaker.com Thu Aug 27 07:27:30 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 07:27:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <0EF35D58-F2E4-4059-98E9-2026AB46C455@gmail.com> References: <0EF35D58-F2E4-4059-98E9-2026AB46C455@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes. The Elecraft-K4 on Groups.io. And I would like to see posts of when you got notice of shipping, order date, delivery, and serial number. I think this could really clog up the regulars Ecraft reflector so suggested using the groups.io list. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:16 PM, David F. Reed wrote: > > ?What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know? > > 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed > >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c wrote: >> >> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> > From h3cary at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 07:47:37 2020 From: h3cary at gmail.com (Hunsdon Cary III) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 07:47:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X, Article reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5AE4D4A0-F01A-45C0-A82E-5267E445AAC0@gmail.com> David: Go to Don?s web page, W3FPR.com, and you?ll see a list of links on the left side of the page. Last I looked, the data paper was at the bottom of the list. Don, IMO, is an Elecraft treasure! 73, Cary, K4TM Sent from Clovelly Cottage II, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most creative Sue Cary, in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia. > On Aug 27, 2020, at 6:15 AM, David Andrews wrote: > > ?Cary, please provide reference for accessing the article by Don Wilhelm that you mentioned. > 73, > Dave > KA1DA From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 08:36:13 2020 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:36:13 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X, Article reference In-Reply-To: <5AE4D4A0-F01A-45C0-A82E-5267E445AAC0@gmail.com> References: <5AE4D4A0-F01A-45C0-A82E-5267E445AAC0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cary is that article for MMTTY? http://w3fpr.com/Data_setup.htm is the same setup for WSJT-X? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W El jue., 27 ago. 2020 a las 8:49, Hunsdon Cary III () escribi?: > David: > Go to Don?s web page, W3FPR.com, and you?ll see a list of links on the > left side of the page. Last I looked, the data paper was at the bottom of > the list. > Don, IMO, is an Elecraft treasure! > 73, > Cary, K4TM > > Sent from Clovelly Cottage II, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the > most creative Sue Cary, in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge > mountains of Virginia. > > > On Aug 27, 2020, at 6:15 AM, David Andrews wrote: > > > > ?Cary, please provide reference for accessing the article by Don Wilhelm > that you mentioned. > > 73, > > Dave > > KA1DA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com -- 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W From dhaines at bates.edu Thu Aug 27 12:41:44 2020 From: dhaines at bates.edu (David Haines) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 12:41:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> Message-ID: <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> Here are more details: All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO is at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 works as expected. With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: 1.? KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then settle down quietly to about 100W. 2.? Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" and the mouse cursor disappears.?? At this point different things can happen:? Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at WSJT-X.? Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT button.? Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. 3.? The KXPA100 fault table lists no faults. Anybody seen anything like this? david, KC1DNY, KX3 #08651 On 8/26/2020 7:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > David, > > It is a mystery why the computer reports that message only on 17 > meters. ?There should be no band dependency for the USB connection. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/26/2020 7:02 PM, David Haines wrote: >> I've had good luck setting up my KX3 for FT-8., but it took awhile. I >> used several good sources which I'm sure other will point you to. But >> here's my current issue: >> >> I'm regularly getting FT-8 QSOs on 40m, 20m, and 10 m with no >> problems. The other night I decided to try 17m.? My Windoze computer >> replied "USB device not recognized."? HUH? >> From Lyn at LNAINC.com Thu Aug 27 12:43:36 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:43:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> Message-ID: <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> Jim, K9YC wrote: > Lyn's expectations are modest. Many of us want to work 5,000 - 8,000 > mile paths, which is what it takes to work 175 countries from W6 in 14 > years -- it's FAR easier to work EU east of the MS river, and EU has FAR > more countries with active hams than AS and OC. I know -- I lived in IL. > One of my goals is QRP WAS. In about ten years, I still need VT and SC. > And I've got three 160M verticals, all using my tower as a passive > reflector to give me a few dB in three directions! Well Jim, I should never object to being called "modest." It could be a lot worse. But as an update to your Illinois recollections, propagation has changed just a bit since your residency here in the '60s, '70s, '80s, etc. The Society of Midwest Contesters (https://www.w9smc.com/) recognizes the Midwest ... lovely as it may be ... to be the infamous "Black Hole" when it comes to dx-ing. Virtually any coastal location runs circles around us when it comes to the ease of making those exotic contacts (in fact many of our SMC members spend a great deal of time in such locations in order to pursue that rare DX). That being said, when working within a limited budget (ham radio IS important to me but it's not my whole life) and limited antenna options due to HOA restrictions, I think my Extended Double Zepp performs exactly as I hoped it would and pretty much maximizes the use of the space available. At its design frequency, it produces 4.7 dbi gain with exactly the radiation pattern I want, namely N-S NVIS on 80 meters for statewide EmCOMM purposes, E-W for 40m, Increasing numbers of lobes as we go up to 6 meters and thusly becoming more omni. All are as desired. How does that compare to your Inverted-L? (Serious question ...) I managed to work 125 countries (confirmed on LoTW) in less than 2 years, and mostly with 50 watts or less. I also managed to WAS on 160, 80, 40, 30 and 20 meters in the same time period. My total cash outlay was less than $600, and my annual maintenance consists of trimming a few over-eager tree branches. I feel good about that. 73 Lyn, W0LEN "From The Black Hole" From ghyoungman at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 12:48:42 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 12:48:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> Message-ID: Sounds like you have RF getting in somewhere. Given that the PC sometimes loses it?s mind, I?d look there first. Do you have ferrites on the various connections going to the PC? Grant NQ5T > On Aug 27, 2020, at 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: > > Here are more details: > > All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO is at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. > > Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 works as expected. > > With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: > > 1. KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then settle down quietly to about 100W. > > 2. Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" and the mouse cursor disappears. At this point different things can happen: Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at WSJT-X. Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT button. Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. > > 3. The KXPA100 fault table lists no faults. > > Anybody seen anything like this? > > david, KC1DNY, KX3 #08651 > > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 27 13:05:52 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:05:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: On 8/27/2020 9:43 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > The > Society of Midwest Contesters (https://www.w9smc.com/) recognizes the > Midwest ... lovely as it may be ... to be the infamous "Black Hole" when it > comes to dx-ing. Virtually any coastal location runs circles around us when > it comes to the ease of making those exotic contacts (in fact many of our > SMC members spend a great deal of time in such locations in order to pursue > that rare DX). As it did when I was a member of SMC from 2003-2006, operating from a city lot. If you think that's a Black Hole, try your antenna in NorCal. 73, Jim K9YC From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Aug 27 13:20:31 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:20:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> Message-ID: <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> David, As someone else suggested, it sounds a lot like RF feedback on 17m. Try operating into a dummy load to see if the same thing happens - if not, get out the ferrites. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/27/2020 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: > > Here are more details: > > All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO is > at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. > > Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 > works as expected. > > With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: > > 1.? KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in > synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then > settle down quietly to about 100W. > > 2.? Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" > and the mouse cursor disappears.?? At this point different things can > happen:? Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at > WSJT-X.? Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT > button.? Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. > > From scott.small at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 13:30:49 2020 From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:30:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed. If you have a bad enough match, and it isn't choked, you can certainly get enough RF in the shack to cause havoc. I have some bands I can't use my trackpad *inside my laptop* during full-power ft8 transmit, because I haven't set up proper antennas for that band. Scott AD6YT On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:21 AM Don Wilhelm wrote: > David, > > As someone else suggested, it sounds a lot like RF feedback on 17m. > Try operating into a dummy load to see if the same thing happens - if > not, get out the ferrites. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/27/2020 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: > > > > Here are more details: > > > > All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO is > > at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. > > > > Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 > > works as expected. > > > > With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: > > > > 1. KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in > > synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then > > settle down quietly to about 100W. > > > > 2. Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" > > and the mouse cursor disappears. At this point different things can > > happen: Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at > > WSJT-X. Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT > > button. Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to scott.small at gmail.com -- Scott Small From dhaines at bates.edu Thu Aug 27 13:31:55 2020 From: dhaines at bates.edu (David Haines) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:31:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Don: Problem goes away when I reduce to 20W, the maximum for my dummy load. I just put ferrites on mouse wires, keyboard wires, and sound wires and nothing changed.? I guess I could add more, but ... . Maybe my best solution is to go to wireless mouse and keyboard.? I intentionally used wired because my cybersecurity son is against wireless... . Still doesn't explain the funny noise from the KXP100, does it? david KC1DNY On 8/27/2020 1:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > David, > > As someone else suggested, it sounds a lot like RF feedback on 17m. > Try operating into a dummy load to see if the same thing happens - if > not, get out the ferrites. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/27/2020 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: >> >> Here are more details: >> >> All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO >> is at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. >> >> Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 >> works as expected. >> >> With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: >> >> 1.? KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in >> synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then >> settle down quietly to about 100W. >> >> 2.? Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" >> and the mouse cursor disappears.?? At this point different things can >> happen:? Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at >> WSJT-X.? Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT >> button.? Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. >> >> > From mike.flowers at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 13:39:29 2020 From: mike.flowers at gmail.com (Mike Flowers) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:39:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <1d1601d67c99$046ed060$0d4c7120$@gmail.com> Sometimes, a line or cable is just the right fraction of a specific wavelength to act as an efficient antenna, and RF will find it's way in. With the digimodes your soundcard is involved, so if you're getting a 'funny noise', that's where I'd look - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of David Haines > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:32 > To: donwilh at embarqmail.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X > > Don: > > Problem goes away when I reduce to 20W, the maximum for my dummy load. > I just put ferrites on mouse wires, keyboard wires, and sound wires and nothing > changed. I guess I could add more, but ... . > Maybe my best solution is to go to wireless mouse and keyboard. I intentionally > used wired because my cybersecurity son is against wireless... . > > Still doesn't explain the funny noise from the KXP100, does it? > > david KC1DNY > > On 8/27/2020 1:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > David, > > > > As someone else suggested, it sounds a lot like RF feedback on 17m. > > Try operating into a dummy load to see if the same thing happens - if > > not, get out the ferrites. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > > On 8/27/2020 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: > >> > >> Here are more details: > >> > >> All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO > >> is at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. > >> > >> Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 > >> works as expected. > >> > >> With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: > >> > >> 1. KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in > >> synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then > >> settle down quietly to about 100W. > >> > >> 2. Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" > >> and the mouse cursor disappears. At this point different things can > >> happen: Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at > >> WSJT-X. Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT > >> button. Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to mike.flowers at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 27 14:01:00 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:01:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <1d1601d67c99$046ed060$0d4c7120$@gmail.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> <1d1601d67c99$046ed060$0d4c7120$@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/27/2020 10:39 AM, Mike Flowers wrote: > Sometimes, a line or cable is just the right fraction of a specific wavelength to act as an efficient antenna, and RF will find it's way in. These issues are often prevented simply by practicing the proper bonding within the station, providing a counterpoise for any end-fed antennas (verticals, random wires), and using an effective ferrite choke at all antenna feedpoints. The feedpoint is where the feedline connects to the antenna (up in the air, or at the end of the end-fed wire). Without this choke, your feedline, and everything it is connected to, including stuff in your shack and AC wiring, is carrying antenna current. Note that non-resonant antennas, especially those fed with 2-wire line, cannot be effectively choked. Effective chokes you can build are here. http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf Do NOT be a sucker for commercially made chokes, including those from Balun Designs, Palomar, and most other ham vendors. They won't blow up, mainly because they aren't doing anything useful. 73, Jim K9YC From scott.small at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 14:01:42 2020 From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:01:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I suspect we should both be working on improving our antennas/matching rather than adding more chokes inside the shack (didn't work for me either). Scott AD6YT On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:34 AM David Haines wrote: > Don: > > Problem goes away when I reduce to 20W, the maximum for my dummy load. > I just put ferrites on mouse wires, keyboard wires, and sound wires and > nothing changed. I guess I could add more, but ... . > Maybe my best solution is to go to wireless mouse and keyboard. I > intentionally used wired because my cybersecurity son is against > wireless... . > > Still doesn't explain the funny noise from the KXP100, does it? > > david KC1DNY > > On 8/27/2020 1:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > David, > > > > As someone else suggested, it sounds a lot like RF feedback on 17m. > > Try operating into a dummy load to see if the same thing happens - if > > not, get out the ferrites. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > > On 8/27/2020 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: > >> > >> Here are more details: > >> > >> All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO > >> is at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. > >> > >> Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 > >> works as expected. > >> > >> With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: > >> > >> 1. KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in > >> synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then > >> settle down quietly to about 100W. > >> > >> 2. Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" > >> and the mouse cursor disappears. At this point different things can > >> happen: Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at > >> WSJT-X. Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT > >> button. Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to scott.small at gmail.com -- Scott Small From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 27 14:13:45 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:13:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> <1d1601d67c99$046ed060$0d4c7120$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <771fabf0-6eca-5b1b-5f68-bfa47737c29a@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/27/2020 11:01 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > These issues are often prevented simply by practicing the proper bonding > within the station, I failed to provide this link to slides for talks I've done at Pacificon, Visalia, and to several local clubs. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf This material is also well covered in N0AX's excellent ARRL book on the topic, to which I contributed. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 27 14:14:21 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:14:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <33b10767-c31b-9fb1-420c-21f296ecb8f0@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/27/2020 11:01 AM, Tox wrote: > I suspect we should both be working on improving our antennas/matching > rather than adding more chokes inside the shack (didn't work for me either). YES! Jim K9YC From Lyn at LNAINC.com Thu Aug 27 14:19:00 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:19:00 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <0cab01d67c9e$8adcee20$a096ca60$@LNAINC.com> If I could afford a couple acres in No Cal, I would be happy to do so!'' (I don't recall hearing Jim, W6LG complain about it.) 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:06 PM To: Reflector Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters On 8/27/2020 9:43 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > The > Society of Midwest Contesters (https://www.w9smc.com/) recognizes the > Midwest ... lovely as it may be ... to be the infamous "Black Hole" when it > comes to dx-ing. Virtually any coastal location runs circles around us when > it comes to the ease of making those exotic contacts (in fact many of our > SMC members spend a great deal of time in such locations in order to pursue > that rare DX). As it did when I was a member of SMC from 2003-2006, operating from a city lot. If you think that's a Black Hole, try your antenna in NorCal. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ From scott.small at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 14:25:34 2020 From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:25:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <33b10767-c31b-9fb1-420c-21f296ecb8f0@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> <33b10767-c31b-9fb1-420c-21f296ecb8f0@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: And thanks for your tips - I did try to improve ground bonding, but it still floats differently because I haven't gone far enough, and since chokes on my feedline are at the amp end, instead of the untuned iintentional radiator 30' above me.....I shouldn't be surprised :) Scott On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:15 AM Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/27/2020 11:01 AM, Tox wrote: > > I suspect we should both be working on improving our antennas/matching > > rather than adding more chokes inside the shack (didn't work for me > either). > > YES! > > Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to scott.small at gmail.com > -- Scott Small From rick.nk7i at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 14:45:38 2020 From: rick.nk7i at gmail.com (Rick Bates, NK7I) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:45:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> Message-ID: <77c50cd0-cf68-70dc-8dbd-79112eb9977b@gmail.com> That is clearly a case of RFI; the USB connection is 'sensitive' at that frequency range. Your clue is:? " then settle down quietly to about 100W. 2.? Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" and the mouse cursor disappears.? " If it doesn't happen at low wattage but does at higher is your hint; you're getting RF back into the shack, which is never a good thing. Presuming that ALL your equipment is properly bonded AND grounded (not the same thing), adding some ferrite to the cabling (begin with the USB cable) would be a good place to start. If you are not completely bonded and grounded, start there first (it can also lower the noise floor so you can hear better too). 73, Rick NK7I On 8/27/2020 9:41 AM, David Haines wrote: > Here are more details: > > All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO is > at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. > > Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 > works as expected. > > With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: > > 1.? KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in > synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then > settle down quietly to about 100W. > > 2.? Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" > and the mouse cursor disappears.?? At this point different things can > happen:? Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at > WSJT-X.? Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT > button.? Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. > > 3.? The KXPA100 fault table lists no faults. > > Anybody seen anything like this? > > david, KC1DNY, KX3 #08651 > > > On 8/26/2020 7:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> David, >> >> It is a mystery why the computer reports that message only on 17 >> meters. ?There should be no band dependency for the USB connection. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 8/26/2020 7:02 PM, David Haines wrote: >>> I've had good luck setting up my KX3 for FT-8., but it took awhile. >>> I used several good sources which I'm sure other will point you to. >>> But here's my current issue: >>> >>> I'm regularly getting FT-8 QSOs on 40m, 20m, and 10 m with no >>> problems. The other night I decided to try 17m.? My Windoze computer >>> replied "USB device not recognized."? HUH? >>> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.nk7i at gmail.com From mike.ab3ap at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 14:51:45 2020 From: mike.ab3ap at gmail.com (Mike Markowski) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 14:51:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject) Message-ID: <107b8a1b-3403-a043-a790-4e951bb5f7cf@gmail.com> set delivery off end From rick.nk7i at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 15:26:53 2020 From: rick.nk7i at gmail.com (Rick Bates, NK7I) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 12:26:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> I will interject here that when I lived in Mordor, er, CA, I also used a low (35' max height) EDZ (370', window line fed dipole).? I was able to work 200+ countries on all bands (I used a J pole on 6M) within an HOA environment (I put it up on a weekday when no one was home, it was 'invisible').? Then I came to my senses and left the state. For the first two years here, I used an 80M Sloper (was originally a dipole, but a branch took out one end, in the middle of winter snow) and a 160M Inverted L which I used on all other bands (except 6M).? In many ways, that was better than the EDZ (not enough trees to reuse that) but mostly due to the lower noise floor (dropped by ~40 dB in the move). Now I use a SteppIR DB 36/80 at 60' (and the L on 160M) and it easily blows everything I've used out of the water, always in resonance too.? Not only does it hear better (by nulling out noises, favoring the intended direction) it provides gain as well.? A HUGE difference to the untuned (but matched) Inverted L (what was unheard, is now workable).? (Adding a proper grounding system also lowered the noise floor another 20 dB on average; the house Ufer ground, while legal, was not sufficient.? At many times, the floor is at the MDS of the K3.) The Inverted L at 500 watts out, talked better than it could hear (on the K3), frustrating everyone, proving that mismatch losses cost in both directions (and costing me a lot of DX).? After installing a proper grounding system AND bonding EVERYTHING; the next challenge is to lower the noise floor further (remove or reduce all noise sources).? I can now hear a little more than I can work (the 'other' side has noise to deal with) but will add an array for low band RX. So you're both right, everyone is limited by what is available on the property and budget; I've used all the antennas mentioned in this thread.? And that, is the rest of the story (and even in the low range of the solar cycle, I have added some ATNO and numerous band slots). Jim, I'd submit that not only is 160M more challenging on the left coast, but 6M is worse since it tends to be N/S much of the time and even the coastline leans left so not many stations are south. ;-P ? 6M like 160, also 'spotlights' but in pinpoints.? I have managed DXCC on 160M since the move, 6M is still a greater challenge (up to 6 so far, it's a start). I'm pleased your place has survived the fires (please do your PRC 4291 'homework' to continue that good fortune). 73, Rick NK7I On 8/27/2020 9:43 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > That being said, when working within a limited budget (ham radio IS > important to me but it's not my whole life) and limited antenna options due > to HOA restrictions, I think my Extended Double Zepp performs exactly as I > hoped it would and pretty much maximizes the use of the space available. At > its design frequency, it produces 4.7 dbi gain with exactly the radiation > pattern I want, namely N-S NVIS on 80 meters for statewide EmCOMM purposes, > E-W for 40m, Increasing numbers of lobes as we go up to 6 meters and thusly > becoming more omni. All are as desired. > > How does that compare to your Inverted-L? (Serious question ...) From Lyn at LNAINC.com Thu Aug 27 16:42:02 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 15:42:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> Rick - FWIW, we worked on 160m in the early morning (late night?) hours last December according to my log. At a bearing of 298? WNW and a distance of 1426 miles, you are pretty much dead centered in the Western null of my EDZ (which becomes a center fed 5/8 wave on 160m). While I appreciate the common opinion that 160m 'means' vertical, the fact that I worked all states on 160 over a weekend, without breaking a sweat, leads me to believe that I would benefit little by going that route. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bates, NK7I Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:27 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters I will interject here that when I lived in Mordor, er, CA, I also used a low (35' max height) EDZ (370', window line fed dipole). I was able to work 200+ countries on all bands (I used a J pole on 6M) within an HOA environment (I put it up on a weekday when no one was home, it was 'invisible'). Then I came to my senses and left the state. For the first two years here, I used an 80M Sloper (was originally a dipole, but a branch took out one end, in the middle of winter snow) and a 160M Inverted L which I used on all other bands (except 6M). In many ways, that was better than the EDZ (not enough trees to reuse that) but mostly due to the lower noise floor (dropped by ~40 dB in the move). Now I use a SteppIR DB 36/80 at 60' (and the L on 160M) and it easily blows everything I've used out of the water, always in resonance too. Not only does it hear better (by nulling out noises, favoring the intended direction) it provides gain as well. A HUGE difference to the untuned (but matched) Inverted L (what was unheard, is now workable). (Adding a proper grounding system also lowered the noise floor another 20 dB on average; the house Ufer ground, while legal, was not sufficient. At many times, the floor is at the MDS of the K3.) The Inverted L at 500 watts out, talked better than it could hear (on the K3), frustrating everyone, proving that mismatch losses cost in both directions (and costing me a lot of DX). After installing a proper grounding system AND bonding EVERYTHING; the next challenge is to lower the noise floor further (remove or reduce all noise sources). I can now hear a little more than I can work (the 'other' side has noise to deal with) but will add an array for low band RX. So you're both right, everyone is limited by what is available on the property and budget; I've used all the antennas mentioned in this thread. And that, is the rest of the story (and even in the low range of the solar cycle, I have added some ATNO and numerous band slots). Jim, I'd submit that not only is 160M more challenging on the left coast, but 6M is worse since it tends to be N/S much of the time and even the coastline leans left so not many stations are south. ;-P 6M like 160, also 'spotlights' but in pinpoints. I have managed DXCC on 160M since the move, 6M is still a greater challenge (up to 6 so far, it's a start). I'm pleased your place has survived the fires (please do your PRC 4291 'homework' to continue that good fortune). 73, Rick NK7I On 8/27/2020 9:43 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > That being said, when working within a limited budget (ham radio IS > important to me but it's not my whole life) and limited antenna options due > to HOA restrictions, I think my Extended Double Zepp performs exactly as I > hoped it would and pretty much maximizes the use of the space available. At > its design frequency, it produces 4.7 dbi gain with exactly the radiation > pattern I want, namely N-S NVIS on 80 meters for statewide EmCOMM purposes, > E-W for 40m, Increasing numbers of lobes as we go up to 6 meters and thusly > becoming more omni. All are as desired. > > How does that compare to your Inverted-L? (Serious question ...) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lyn at lnainc.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 27 17:36:03 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 14:36:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/27/2020 1:42 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > While I appreciate the common opinion that 160m 'means' vertical, the fact that I worked all states on 160 over a weekend, without breaking a sweat, leads me to believe that I would benefit little by going that route. A study of the ARRL Handbook and Antenna Book is worthwhile. Likewise, ON4UN's "Low Band DXing," also publishe by ARRL. Also, N6BT's "Array of Light," which includes his experiment of working all continents loading a light bulb, proving that everything "works," but that some things work far better than others. My approach to ham radio has never been mediocrity, but rather to get better at everything within the limits of my real estate and resources. I did very different things from my childhood home in WV to a dorm room at U of Cincy to two different Chicago city lots to a lot of property in NorCal. I have a 1960 QSL from K4BVD for a QSO on a long wire from that dorm room; Rusty later settled near San Francisco, now near Seattle. He's W6OAT. Verticals DO rule on 160M, simply because any horizontal antenna that can be rigged for that band is a very low dipole (in terms of electrical height), and therefore very LOSSY (meaning that most of the TX power heats the soil). To deny that is to deny the fundamental laws of physics. But if we cannot rig a vertical, we do what we can and call CQ. In Chicago, my best antenna for both 80 and 160 was a 40M dipole with loading coils to resonate it on 80M. Initially I fed it with coax, but changed to vintage Belden KW twinlead that I had found "new old stock" at the Milwaukee hamfest 20 years earlier. For 80 and 160, it worked far better with both sides of the feedline tied together and fed against a big wrought-iron fence that ran around the front of our yard. The feedline did the radiating, the horizontal dipole wires served as top-loading to increase efficiency. That top-loaded vertical was not a good antenna above 80M. There are photos in this set of slides. The shack was on the second floor, and the vertical wires running from three down to the fence were part of the antenna. The photos show that the antenna was sloped more than vertical. :) http://k9yc.com/LimitedSpaceAntennasPPT.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From ae4pb at carolinaheli.com Thu Aug 27 18:06:19 2020 From: ae4pb at carolinaheli.com (ae4pb at carolinaheli.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 18:06:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] How much room when packing a K3S and P3 in a box Message-ID: <01bd01d67cbe$4b4a4f80$e1deee80$@carolinaheli.com> Hi, I'm packing my K3s and P3 in a Pelican 1550 case. This is just to protect the rig while it's in storage until we can get into our new house. How much foam packing around the rig is sufficient? I'd like to put the rig and P3 next to each other only separated by the rubber feet on the K3. If I do this I believe I can get about an inch on the sides and maybe 2 or more inches front/back/top/bottom. Thoughts? Thanks in advance. De AE4PB --... ...-- .. From bbaines at mac.com Thu Aug 27 18:31:40 2020 From: bbaines at mac.com (Barry Baines) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 18:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] How much room when packing a K3S and P3 in a box In-Reply-To: <01bd01d67cbe$4b4a4f80$e1deee80$@carolinaheli.com> References: <01bd01d67cbe$4b4a4f80$e1deee80$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <7C3398DD-622B-4E7B-B7A5-48A9147FDA91@mac.com> AE4PB: > On Aug 27, 2020, at 18:08, ae4pb at carolinaheli.com wrote: > > ?Hi, > I'm packing my K3s and P3 in a Pelican 1550 case. This is just to protect > the rig while it's in storage until we can get into our new house. > How much foam packing around the rig is sufficient? I'd like to put the rig > and P3 next to each other only separated by the rubber feet on the K3. > If I do this I believe I can get about an inch on the sides and maybe 2 or > more inches front/back/top/bottom. At the risk of asking a dumb question.... If your gear is going into storage and you?re not transporting your K3s/P3 via aircraft, train, or auto on a trip, why not simply pack them in their original packaging as they came from Elecraft? If you didn?t keep the packaging, use a U-Haul box with bubble wrap or other protective inserts. Pelican cases are nice (I have one for my K3/I0-Mini and Remote Rig combo for taking them to various locations to operate) but they are not cheap and given their form factor will not ?stack? as well in a storage unit if all you?re going to do is put them in storage. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA) > Thoughts? > Thanks in advance. > De AE4PB > --... ...-- > .. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com From skipnc9o at yahoo.com Thu Aug 27 16:45:29 2020 From: skipnc9o at yahoo.com (Skip Davis) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:45:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info References: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to evaluate it and use it in ways that don?t follow the design operational flow diagram you intended. Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever the K4 is mentioned. Skip Davis, NC9O Sent from my iPad From nr4c at widomaker.com Thu Aug 27 19:37:22 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:37:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> References: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <728DF56A-6D7F-4045-B82E-D86C8B6F1460@widomaker.com> I don?t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft wrote: > > ?Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to evaluate it and use it in ways that don?t follow the design operational flow diagram you intended. > Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever the K4 is mentioned. > > > Skip Davis, NC9O > Sent from my iPad > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From dhaines at bates.edu Thu Aug 27 20:10:35 2020 From: dhaines at bates.edu (David Haines) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:10:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X In-Reply-To: <1d1601d67c99$046ed060$0d4c7120$@gmail.com> References: <9F85DE1D-9511-4F6F-B8CB-9DAC7782EEF5@gmail.com> <4f1abd3f-6ea3-22d3-b3ca-50f0be0f66df@bates.edu> <9c50a810-fa57-983b-9e49-f286a1b3a8b6@bates.edu> <81d34ed6-c478-0e1f-4b12-b475833d2b17@embarqmail.com> <1d1601d67c99$046ed060$0d4c7120$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I checked carefully and the "funny noise" is definitely from the KXPA100.? It's unlike the relays switching to find a match, but more like a ringing, increasing in frequency.? Just twice. However I'm now convinced that my problem is RFI, thanks to all for the great advice. Oh, and all my equipment is carefully bonded, EXCEPT the darned PC. OK, I'll do that next. david KC1DNY On 8/27/2020 1:39 PM, Mike Flowers wrote: > Sometimes, a line or cable is just the right fraction of a specific wavelength to act as an efficient antenna, and RF will find it's way in. > > With the digimodes your soundcard is involved, so if you're getting a 'funny noise', that's where I'd look > > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net >> On Behalf Of David Haines >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:32 >> To: donwilh at embarqmail.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 radio settings for WSJT-X >> >> Don: >> >> Problem goes away when I reduce to 20W, the maximum for my dummy load. >> I just put ferrites on mouse wires, keyboard wires, and sound wires and nothing >> changed. I guess I could add more, but ... . >> Maybe my best solution is to go to wireless mouse and keyboard. I intentionally >> used wired because my cybersecurity son is against wireless... . >> >> Still doesn't explain the funny noise from the KXP100, does it? >> >> david KC1DNY >> >> On 8/27/2020 1:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> David, >>> >>> As someone else suggested, it sounds a lot like RF feedback on 17m. >>> Try operating into a dummy load to see if the same thing happens - if >>> not, get out the ferrites. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 8/27/2020 12:41 PM, David Haines wrote: >>>> Here are more details: >>>> >>>> All seems to be working fine on 160m-10m except for 17m, so KX3 VFO >>>> is at 18.100 for the rest of this discussion. >>>> >>>> Without WSJT-X running, ATU finds a 1.1 match and TUNE button on KX3 >>>> works as expected. >>>> >>>> With WSJT-X running, using the WSJT-X TUNE button causes the following: >>>> >>>> 1. KXPA100 power LED's light from left to right _twice_, in >>>> synchronization with a musical ringing that rises in frequency, then >>>> settle down quietly to about 100W. >>>> >>>> 2. Around the same time Windows reports "USB device not recognized" >>>> and the mouse cursor disappears. At this point different things can >>>> happen: Maybe the cursor comes back and I can stop the TUNE at >>>> WSJT-X. Maybe it doesn't and I have to shut off the KX3 with XMIT >>>> button. Sometimes the PC freezes and needs a hard reset. >>>> >>>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >> delivered to mike.flowers at gmail.com From neilz at techie.com Thu Aug 27 21:09:45 2020 From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:09:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Rig Control Software In-Reply-To: References: <1598469232761-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <1093d3bb-2053-661e-6c79-6a19cb90857c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <54393538-703d-fd9f-4b6d-dce70607e810@techie.com> DXLab's DX Commander works fine with the K2, and integrates well with DXKeeper log program, along with the rest of the DXLabs suite. I use Commander with the K2 to run WSJT-X modes with Commander as the rig. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/26/2020 3:15 PM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: > Hey Denny, > > I use the free version of HRD to test K2's here. Like Don said, it is > clock cycle hog, but works fine. With the IF buffer amp I have > installed on mine, I use HDSDR to control the rig and work with > SDRPlay for panadapter operation. SDRPlay is also paired up with > SDRUno and it works with the K2 as well. > > 73, > Dave, W8FGU > > > On 8/26/2020 3:33:37 PM, "Don Wilhelm" wrote: > >> Denny, >> >> Ham Radio Deluxe works with the K2 - at least the last free version >> (4.???) did for me.? It burns a lot of computer cycles, but that is >> OK on modern computers.? If your computer is 'old iron', it may have >> a problem. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 8/26/2020 3:13 PM, Wb9msm wrote: >>> Hi All - >>> >>> Does anyone know of any rig control software that is available for >>> the K2? >>> I know that the K2 Remote is available but I would like something >>> with more >>> capabilities than that software.? I use ACLog for logging and it works >>> perfect with the K2 but doesn't give me rig control. >>> >>> Thanks for any assistance with my question and 73, >>> >>> Denny >>> WB9MSM >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Dennis Berg >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dave at w8fgu.com > > From k6dgw at foothill.net Thu Aug 27 21:55:49 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 18:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> Message-ID: <30b9e28f-ad56-cf41-9486-087ef888798b@foothill.net> But, was HC8N ever loud over that all water path!! 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/27/2020 12:26 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: > Jim, I'd submit that not only is 160M more challenging on the left > coast, but 6M is worse since it tends to be N/S much of the time and > even the coastline leans left so not many stations are south. ;-P From frantz at pwpconsult.com Thu Aug 27 22:03:59 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:03:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> Message-ID: When I lived in California, I had a 160M dipole which went up in the spring of 2013. It was almost full size, with one end hanging down about 10 feet rather than go into the tree holding that end. I managed 47 confirmed states, missing ME, VT, and RI. I also had 14 confirmed DXCCs. The antenna also worked reasonably well on higher bands. 15M was particularly good and I made a couple of FT8 QSOs to QC on 6M. Modeling showed a pattern with a lot of fingers instead of a single lobe. This kind of pattern made contacts more a matter of luck than of planning. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/26/20 at 2:50 PM, ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) wrote: >Yes, I completely agree with that.? I'm sure the folks with >low EDZ's and large horizontal loops and low dipoles make >contacts on 160m, but almost any half decent vertical will >reach out further better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like 408-348-7900 | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington From frantz at pwpconsult.com Thu Aug 27 22:03:58 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:03:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] How much room when packing a K3S and P3 in a box In-Reply-To: <01bd01d67cbe$4b4a4f80$e1deee80$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: I have hauled cameras through caves in Pelican cases. Crawling through a cave subjects the outside of the case to a lot of banging around, dirt, water, etc. Stuff you don't want in your camera. The Pelican case does a good job of protecting stuff. I always packed the case with foam on the outside, but camera bodies, lenses, flashes etc. packed next to each other with no padding between them. I packed them densely enough so they didn't move inside the case. This technique is a bit hard on the finish, but it didn't seem to impair the operation of the equipment. I also think there was more damage to the camera equipment when it was out in the cave environment than happend being dragged in the Pelican case. I kept telling myself I got the camera to make pictures, not to stay in pristine condition. I also pack my K3 and P3 in Pelican cases for transport, and for storage in the basement which might flood. Again, I try to have enough padding -- cloth, foam, crumpled newspaper etc. to keep the radios from moving when being handled. So, I think your plan should work well. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/27/20 at 6:06 PM, ae4pb at carolinaheli.com wrote: >I'm packing my K3s and P3 in a Pelican 1550 case. This is just to protect >the rig while it's in storage until we can get into our new >house. How much foam packing around the rig is sufficient? I'd >like to put the rig >and P3 next to each other only separated by the rubber feet on >the K3. If I do this I believe I can get about an inch on the >sides and maybe 2 or >more inches front/back/top/bottom. Thoughts? >Thanks in advance. >De AE4PB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Privacy is dead, get over | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | it. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy (1999) | Peterborough, NH 03458 From billamader at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 22:04:40 2020 From: billamader at gmail.com (K8TE) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:04:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0768fe60-4dca-41a4-b081-622bb4265bc8@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> <20200826232041.ga2uw3hskjkfhio6@n0nb.us> <0768fe60-4dca-41a4-b081-622bb4265bc8@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <1598580280583-0.post@n2.nabble.com> It's refreshing to read something based on science! All of the anecdotes are interesting, but nothing more. I would not jump on any of them without reading scientific documentation comparing them directly to a half-wave, flat top dipole at a half wavelength high, or as high as possible and specified. Jim's point about the NVIS myth is well taken. Most of the "literature" is bunk and with little to no backing in science. I strongly promote using WSPRLite on two antennas simultaneously to demonstrate the new antenna's performance over time. Those results have meaning. I worked an Italian station on 20m SSB using my KX3 at five Watts into a mobile screwdriver antenna. that was in 2016 near the second peak of Cycle 24. Based on how others assert "This antenna works." I should pull my dipoles down (283 DXCC entities from NM, mostly during Cycle 24) and just use the mobile antenna. Right! BTW, my friend Alan, K0BG, calls "WORKs" an acronym for "WithOut Real Knowledge." He is probably right 80-95% of the time about that. So it worked, but that doesn't make it good, better, or even worse. Ward Silver, N0AX, wrote: "The best antenna is one that is in the air." Kevin is trying to erect an antenna better than what he has now. Anecdotes won't help him, IMHO. 73, Bill, K8TE > A low horizontal antenna has its place, for local work especially out to > a few hundred miles reliably. Horses for courses and all that. That's an urban myth. A low horizontal antenna is very lossy, and has much weaker radiation at ALL angles, including high ones. The origin of the myth is that ARRL Antenna plots set the peak radiation to 0dB. But when plot the vertical field strength for all heights on the same scale, you get the family of curves beginning with slide 13. Study http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf There is an optimum range of heights for high angle radiation, and it isn't low. Slide 19 shows that the optimum height is about 55 ft on 80M, and high angle drop by only 2 dB at 90 ft. Divide those heights by 2 for 40M. 73, Jim K9YC -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Aug 27 22:43:01 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:43:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip In-Reply-To: <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/27/2020 12:26 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: > Jim, I'd submit that not only is 160M more challenging on the left > coast, but 6M is worse since it tends to be N/S much of the time and > even the coastline leans left so not many stations are south. ;-P ? 6M > like 160, also 'spotlights' but in pinpoints.? I have managed DXCC on > 160M since the move, 6M is still a greater challenge (up to 6 so far, > it's a start). NC6K has made some interesting posts concerning how 6M Sporadic-E propagation is related to upper level winds, which in turn is strongly related to topography. He's explained some events by studying upper atmosphere weather plots. Most of my hamming from late April to early August is spent on 6M, in pursuit of new grids. Yes, Sporadic E (Es) can be very "spot-lighty," especially for double-hop openings, which is what it takes to reach beyond about 1800 miles, and even more so to hit Japan. For double-hop to happen, two Es hot spots must exist AND line up; it's quite common to make multiple QSOs into a single grid, then 10-20 minutes later in an adjacent grids as the spotlight moves. And, of course, to make those QSOs there must be stations there on the other end. This season, there was a week-long expedition to a rare grid in the Northern Peninsula of MI; they were workable from NorCal for a few hours on two days. I managed to work one expedition to a grid a few hundred miles inland from the Gulf Coast that was there for several days, but missed one to another grid. Es prop peaks around the summer solstice, and is pretty good for a month or so either side, falling off gradually. Year round, and for distances less than about 1200 miles, meteor scatter and ionospheric scatter are effective with good antennas, power, and persistence. I picked up about 8 new grids this season with MS. 73, Jim K9YC From marvwheeler at nwlink.com Thu Aug 27 22:59:59 2020 From: marvwheeler at nwlink.com (marvwheeler at nwlink.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:59:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d67ce7$51e28e60$f5a7ab20$@nwlink.com> In 58 years of amateur radio operation, I had never been on 6 meters until last year. I was told about the Fred Fish Award and the rarity of CN77 on 6 meters I decided to dive it. I did not get on the band until late July last year but was able, this year, to confirm 2261 contacts this year. It has been fun. Marv KG7V CN77 -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:43 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip On 8/27/2020 12:26 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: > Jim, I'd submit that not only is 160M more challenging on the left > coast, but 6M is worse since it tends to be N/S much of the time and > even the coastline leans left so not many stations are south. ;-P 6M > like 160, also 'spotlights' but in pinpoints. I have managed DXCC on > 160M since the move, 6M is still a greater challenge (up to 6 so far, > it's a start). NC6K has made some interesting posts concerning how 6M Sporadic-E propagation is related to upper level winds, which in turn is strongly related to topography. He's explained some events by studying upper atmosphere weather plots. Most of my hamming from late April to early August is spent on 6M, in pursuit of new grids. Yes, Sporadic E (Es) can be very "spot-lighty," especially for double-hop openings, which is what it takes to reach beyond about 1800 miles, and even more so to hit Japan. For double-hop to happen, two Es hot spots must exist AND line up; it's quite common to make multiple QSOs into a single grid, then 10-20 minutes later in an adjacent grids as the spotlight moves. And, of course, to make those QSOs there must be stations there on the other end. This season, there was a week-long expedition to a rare grid in the Northern Peninsula of MI; they were workable from NorCal for a few hours on two days. I managed to work one expedition to a grid a few hundred miles inland from the Gulf Coast that was there for several days, but missed one to another grid. Es prop peaks around the summer solstice, and is pretty good for a month or so either side, falling off gradually. Year round, and for distances less than about 1200 miles, meteor scatter and ionospheric scatter are effective with good antennas, power, and persistence. I picked up about 8 new grids this season with MS. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to marvwheeler at nwlink.com From ab7echo at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 00:14:43 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 21:14:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <1598580280583-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> <20200826232041.ga2uw3hskjkfhio6@n0nb.us> <0768fe60-4dca-41a4-b081-622bb4265bc8@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1598580280583-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <79798937-fe7b-f0ed-1664-bdd4f1a47e0e@gmail.com> Excellent post. K0BG's "WORKs" acronym is spot on, and I consider any anecdotal rationalization of any antenna to be without much merit.? Without a direct comparison anecdotes are simply anecdotes, and they do little to advance the hobby. I have my own example of an antenna that "worked" great .............. once.? It was the night before Field Day and for pure expediency I put up a low, elongated rectangular loop fed on a vertical side.? I modeled it to be "usable" on both 20m and 40m (decent feed but marginal pattern), and I worked an FR5 on the other side of the world from here in Arizona on 20m with 5 watts on CW and Q5 reports both ways.? I thought I had a winner, but it subsequently turned out to give me one of the worst Field Day scores I ever had. I have no problem at all with folks who for whatever reason elect to go with something that "works".? I do have a problem with them promoting to others it as being "good" without some supporting data other than "I worked such and such". 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/27/2020 7:04 PM, K8TE wrote: > It's refreshing to read something based on science! All of the anecdotes are > interesting, but nothing more. I would not jump on any of them without > reading scientific documentation comparing them directly to a half-wave, > flat top dipole at a half wavelength high, or as high as possible and > specified. Jim's point about the NVIS myth is well taken. Most of the > "literature" is bunk and with little to no backing in science. > > I strongly promote using WSPRLite on two antennas simultaneously to > demonstrate the new antenna's performance over time. Those results have > meaning. > > I worked an Italian station on 20m SSB using my KX3 at five Watts into a > mobile screwdriver antenna. that was in 2016 near the second peak of Cycle > 24. Based on how others assert "This antenna works." I should pull my > dipoles down (283 DXCC entities from NM, mostly during Cycle 24) and just > use the mobile antenna. > > Right! BTW, my friend Alan, K0BG, calls "WORKs" an acronym for "WithOut > Real Knowledge." He is probably right 80-95% of the time about that. So it > worked, but that doesn't make it good, better, or even worse. > > Ward Silver, N0AX, wrote: "The best antenna is one that is in the air." > Kevin is trying to erect an antenna better than what he has now. Anecdotes > won't help him, IMHO. > > 73, Bill, K8TE > > >> A low horizontal antenna has its place, for local work especially out to >> a few hundred miles reliably. Horses for courses and all that. > That's an urban myth. A low horizontal antenna is very lossy, and has > much weaker radiation at ALL angles, including high ones. The origin of > the myth is that ARRL Antenna plots set the peak radiation to 0dB. But > when plot the vertical field strength for all heights on the same scale, > you get the family of curves beginning with slide 13. > > Study http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf > > There is an optimum range of heights for high angle radiation, and it > isn't low. Slide 19 shows that the optimum height is about 55 ft on 80M, > and high angle drop by only 2 dB at 90 ft. Divide those heights by 2 for > 40M. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ab7echo at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Aug 28 00:43:25 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 21:43:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <79798937-fe7b-f0ed-1664-bdd4f1a47e0e@gmail.com> References: <20200826133219.Horde.70IXXmrNIiN1CBTx0KLzxlH@www11.qth.com> <99beec4d-2a78-36a4-b370-27c1310aa957@gmail.com> <20200826232041.ga2uw3hskjkfhio6@n0nb.us> <0768fe60-4dca-41a4-b081-622bb4265bc8@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1598580280583-0.post@n2.nabble.com> <79798937-fe7b-f0ed-1664-bdd4f1a47e0e@gmail.com> Message-ID: <739bfa52-0372-b176-79b5-5a404f93aaf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/27/2020 9:14 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > I have no problem at all with folks who for whatever reason elect to go > with something that "works".? I do have a problem with them promoting to > others it as being "good" without some supporting data other than "I > worked such and such". Same here. We've ALL used what we could for all sorts of reasons. But the whole basis for the work I've done, both studying and teaching, is to make folks aware of the options, and some are 15-20 dB better than others. 15 dB is 32x the power, 20 dB is 100x the power -- that is, the difference between 10W and 1,000W. 73, Jim K9YC From g4gnx at g4gnx.com Fri Aug 28 05:43:03 2020 From: g4gnx at g4gnx.com (Alan - G4GNX) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:43:03 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Test Message-ID: Sorry for the bandwidth. I just sent two reply messages to this list and they have not appeared and are not in the archive. Just generating a new message from scratch. Please ignore. 73, Alan. G4GNX From g4gnx at g4gnx.com Fri Aug 28 06:33:03 2020 From: g4gnx at g4gnx.com (Alan - G4GNX) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:33:03 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> <728DF56A-6D7F-4045-B82E-D86C8B6F1460@widomaker.com> Message-ID: I tried to send this yesterday, but it went astray. :-( Straight from the horse's mouth, so that there will be no rumors or doubt: I have the K3S-line and am interested in the K4. I do not have an order placed yet. I'm waiting until the kit availability is announced. Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup specifically for the K4. I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it is. ;-) I would ask new subscribers to be patient. As with most groups, your 1st message has to be approved, before you become unmoderated. There is a time difference of 5 - 8 hours between the USA and UK, so if you send your first message whilst I'm asleep, it may be delayed. It's not personal. :-) The group has sporadic use, depending on information and questions on a daily basis. When a small announcement is made, there's usually a flurry of activity, which tails off until someone thinks of something else they want to discuss, or there's another announcement. Eric and Wayne monitor the group when they have time and they answer questions when they have answers. I think other Elecraft staff also keep a weather eye on it. I didn't setup the K4 group to take over from any Elecraft group, it's just to separate out K4 traffic from any other Elecraft product, in response to a request from other prospective users. 73, Alan. G4GNX > >------ Original Message ------ >From: "Nr4c" >To: "Skip Davis" >Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Sent: 28/08/2020 00:37:22 >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info > >>I don?t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs >>I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff. >> >>Sent from my iPhone >>...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft wrote: >>> >>> ?Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to evaluate it and use it in ways that don?t follow the design operational flow diagram you intended. >>> Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever the K4 is mentioned. >>> >>> >>> Skip Davis, NC9O >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 06:52:21 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 06:52:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] different Elecraft groups Message-ID: <5f48e412.1c69fb81.50719.19cc@mx.google.com> I can see both sides...I subscribed to several Elecraft groups just to see what they all had to say. I learned that while each had its focus, there was valuable information that crossed groups. I might have missed that had I belonged to only one group. And then there are the discussions that are not Elecraft-specific, but are ham-oriented, and happen to be on the Elecraft list. Though I have no plans to buy the K4 in the foreseeable future, I might join the group and see if there is enough general info to keep me interested...I an always stop the flow, or drop the group. I can imagine that for a while there will be a great deal of K4-specific traffic that won't be of general interest, and that the new K4 owners and prospective owners will have their hands full with new issues and learning curve. ~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE On the banks of the Piscataqua From turnbull at net1.ie Fri Aug 28 07:21:05 2020 From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:21:05 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5f48e8a8.1c69fb81.3fb77.3edb@mx.google.com> Alan and friends please forgive me but I am a member of enough groups for different subjects.? ? I will stick to the Elecraft site and assume perhaps wrongly that Eric, Wayne and the gang will still support it.? ? I do have a K4 on order and am commited.? ? There probably have been other forums for individual Elecraft products but I never visited them.? ? Everyone is entitled to make their own choices but for me this is the site for all K4 info.? ??I ask forgiveness for this stance.? ?It is just the gasp of an old geezer.? ?It is not my intent to offend but it seems better to say something now.Peace and 73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Alan - G4GNX Date: 28/08/2020 11:34 (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info I tried to send this yesterday, but it went astray. :-(Straight from the horse's mouth, so that there will be no rumors or doubt:I have the K3S-line and am interested in the K4. I do not have an order placed yet. I'm waiting until the kit availability is announced.Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup specifically for the K4.I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it is. ;-)I would ask new subscribers to be patient. As with most groups, your 1st message has to be approved, before you become unmoderated. There is a time difference of 5 - 8 hours between the USA and UK, so if you send your first? message whilst I'm asleep, it may be delayed. It's not personal. :-)The group has sporadic use, depending on information and questions on a daily basis. When a small announcement is made, there's usually a flurry of activity, which tails off until someone thinks of something else they want to discuss, or there's another announcement. Eric and Wayne monitor the group when they have time and they answer questions when they have answers. I think other Elecraft staff also keep a weather eye on it.I didn't setup the K4 group to take over from any Elecraft group, it's just to separate out K4 traffic from any other Elecraft product, in response to a request from other prospective users.73,Alan. G4GNX>>------ Original Message ------>From: "Nr4c" >To: "Skip Davis" >Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net>Sent: 28/08/2020 00:37:22>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info>>>I don?t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs>>I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff.>>>>Sent from my iPhone>>...nr4c. bill>>>>>>>? On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft wrote:>>>>>>? ?Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to evaluate it and use it in ways that don?t follow the design operational flow diagram you intended.>>>? Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever the K4 is mentioned.>>>>>>>>>? Skip Davis, NC9O>>>? Sent from my iPad>>>>>>______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From g4gnx at g4gnx.com Fri Aug 28 08:24:26 2020 From: g4gnx at g4gnx.com (Alan - G4GNX) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:24:26 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] In-Reply-To: <5f48e8a8.1c69fb81.3fb77.3edb@mx.google.com> References: <5f48e8a8.1c69fb81.3fb77.3edb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Doug. No forgiveness is required, no offense taken. Each to their own. :-) What II will say about groups in general is that by anyone not subscribing to a group which caters for a subject they're interested in, may miss out in snippets of information that they'd like to have had. Groups are usually free to join, so there's no money downside from that point of view. The major downside of multiple groups is the possible amount of traffic. I cope with this by using an initial text-only email client, where I see the subject line and sender's address. I can also read some of the body text if I wish. Anything not of interest is marked for deletion and is removed when the email client 'hands over' to the main email client. It's quick and easy, but maybe not for everyone, but by doing it that way, I can belong to several similar groups, not miss anything and cope with traffic that doesn't concern me. Being a member of several groups allows me to compartmentalise my interest in multiple products from the same source. Not trying to 'push' an agenda. Just my personal point of view. 73, Alan. G4GNX ------ Original Message ------ From: "turnbull" To: "Alan - G4GNX" ; "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 28/08/2020 12:21:05 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info >Alan and friends please forgive me but I am a member of enough groups >for different subjects. I will stick to the Elecraft site and assume >perhaps wrongly that Eric, Wayne and the gang will still support it. >I do have a K4 on order and am committed. There probably have been >other forums for individual Elecraft products but I never visited them. > Everyone is entitled to make their own choices but for me this is >the site for all K4 info. > >I ask forgiveness for this stance. It is just the gasp of an old >geezer. It is not my intent to offend but it seems better to say >something now. > >Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN > From wa6usa at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 08:26:59 2020 From: wa6usa at gmail.com (Tom Muller) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 05:26:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB an SP3 for the K3 Message-ID: Looking for an external speaker for my K3. The internal speaker doesn't have good audio quality. Thanks, Tom Muller WA6USA From turnbull at net1.ie Fri Aug 28 08:45:20 2020 From: turnbull at net1.ie (turnbull) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:45:20 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5f48fc61.1c69fb81.6a25b.2f04@mx.google.com> Alan, I suppose as I own or have owned a majority of the Elecraft products; they are all of interest for me.? ? The involvement of Elecraft engineers and technicians has always been a big plus for me.? ??Hope your venture goes well.? ?Enjoy your radio. I appreciate your balance.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Alan - G4GNX Date: 28/08/2020 13:25 (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] Hi Doug.No forgiveness is required, no offense taken. Each to their own. :-)What II will say about groups in general is that by anyone not subscribing to a group which caters for a subject they're interested in, may miss out in snippets of information that they'd like to have had.Groups are usually free to join, so there's no money downside from that point of view. The major downside of multiple groups is the possible amount of traffic. I cope with this by using an initial text-only email client, where I see the subject line and sender's address. I can also read some of the body text if I wish. Anything not of interest is marked for deletion and is removed when the email client 'hands over' to the main email client. It's quick and easy, but maybe not for everyone, but by doing it that way, I can belong to several similar groups, not miss anything and cope with traffic that doesn't concern me.Being a member of several groups allows me to compartmentalise my interest in multiple products from the same source.Not trying to 'push' an agenda. Just my personal point of view.73,Alan. G4GNX------ Original Message ------From: "turnbull" To: "Alan - G4GNX" ; "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 28/08/2020 12:21:05Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info>Alan and friends please forgive me but I am a member of enough groups >for different subjects.??? I will stick to the Elecraft site and assume >perhaps wrongly that Eric, Wayne and the gang will still support it.??? >I do have a K4 on order and am committed.??? There probably have been >other forums for individual Elecraft products but I never visited them. >??? Everyone is entitled to make their own choices but for me this is >the site for all K4 info.>>I ask forgiveness for this stance.?? It is just the gasp of an old >geezer.?? It is not my intent to offend but it seems better to say >something now.>>Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN>______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 08:45:09 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:45:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] In-Reply-To: References: <5f48e8a8.1c69fb81.3fb77.3edb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5f48ff1f.1c69fb81.3f562.3969@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-28 12:24:+0000, Alan - G4GNX wrote: >I cope with this by using an initial text-only email client, where I see the subject line and sender's address. I use a text-only email client 99% of the time...the problem is...just as with this email...threads are hijacked all the time, so I can't usually look at the subject and sender and know that I want to read the email or not. I have been guilty of this myself...just as in this case...where I respond in the moment, and (except for now) don't realize that I am off thread. From g4gnx at g4gnx.com Fri Aug 28 09:35:27 2020 From: g4gnx at g4gnx.com (Alan - G4GNX) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:35:27 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] In-Reply-To: <5f48ff1f.1c69fb81.3f562.3969@mx.google.com> References: <5f48e8a8.1c69fb81.3fb77.3edb@mx.google.com> <5f48ff1f.1c69fb81.3f562.3969@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hehehehe. Fooled you Rich. I already changed the subject line. :-D However, I do agree. Many people are lazy and occasionally some forget, but once the thread drifts off-topic, I really wish they would change the subject line. 73, Alan. G4GNX ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rich NE1EE" <73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com> To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 28/08/2020 13:45:09 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] >On 2020-08-28 12:24:+0000, Alan - G4GNX wrote: >>I cope with this by using an initial text-only email client, where I see the subject line and sender's address. > >I use a text-only email client 99% of the time...the problem is...just as with this email...threads are hijacked all the time, so I can't usually look at the subject and sender and know that I want to read the email or not. I have been guilty of this myself...just as in this case...where I respond in the moment, and (except for now) don't realize that I am off thread. > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to g4gnx at g4gnx.com From Lyn at LNAINC.com Fri Aug 28 09:41:24 2020 From: Lyn at LNAINC.com (Lyn Norstad) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:41:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> Jim, K9YC wrote, in part: >My approach to ham radio has never been mediocrity, but rather to get better at everything within the limits of my real estate and resources. Bingo! We would all like to build the "perfect" antenna for each band and each intended usage, but more often than not, there are limitations. In my case, a vertical of any significance would not be permitted by HOA rules (visible from street), nor would installation of a suitable radial system be possible due to septic drain field and other considerations - both physical and aesthetic. So we do what we can and try to maximize the performance thereof. Done. 73 Lyn, W0LEN From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 09:54:25 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:54:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Other groups [was: K4 shipping info] In-Reply-To: References: <5f48e8a8.1c69fb81.3fb77.3edb@mx.google.com> <5f48ff1f.1c69fb81.3f562.3969@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5f490c98.1c69fb81.714a8.456e@mx.google.com> On 2020-08-28 13:35:+0000, Alan - G4GNX wrote: >Hehehehe. > >Fooled you Rich. ;-) yup...you did...I was so used to just looking at "K4 shipping info" that I missed the change! A little bit of humor to lighten my morning! From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Aug 28 11:19:16 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:19:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip In-Reply-To: <000001d67ce7$51e28e60$f5a7ab20$@nwlink.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <000001d67ce7$51e28e60$f5a7ab20$@nwlink.com> Message-ID: <0484a850-c7b6-89af-a162-29a55a459012@audiosystemsgroup.com> Great, Marv. And I'm sure your presence has been appreciated! I was on 6M in my high school days in WV in '57-'59, which included the F2 openings from the sunspot max in '58. Otherwise, I mostly worked CW, so I was prepared for Aurora openings, and had a lot of fun there too. 73, Jim K9YC On 8/27/2020 7:59 PM, marvwheeler at nwlink.com wrote: > In 58 years of amateur radio operation, I had never been on 6 meters until last year. I was told about the Fred Fish Award and the rarity of CN77 on 6 meters I decided to dive it. I did not get on the band until late July last year but was able, this year, to confirm 2261 contacts this year. It has been fun. > > Marv > KG7V > CN77 > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:43 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] 6M E-skip > > On 8/27/2020 12:26 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: >> Jim, I'd submit that not only is 160M more challenging on the left >> coast, but 6M is worse since it tends to be N/S much of the time and >> even the coastline leans left so not many stations are south. ;-P 6M >> like 160, also 'spotlights' but in pinpoints. I have managed DXCC on >> 160M since the move, 6M is still a greater challenge (up to 6 so far, >> it's a start). > > NC6K has made some interesting posts concerning how 6M Sporadic-E propagation is related to upper level winds, which in turn is strongly related to topography. He's explained some events by studying upper atmosphere weather plots. > > Most of my hamming from late April to early August is spent on 6M, in pursuit of new grids. Yes, Sporadic E (Es) can be very "spot-lighty," > especially for double-hop openings, which is what it takes to reach beyond about 1800 miles, and even more so to hit Japan. For double-hop to happen, two Es hot spots must exist AND line up; it's quite common to make multiple QSOs into a single grid, then 10-20 minutes later in an adjacent grids as the spotlight moves. And, of course, to make those QSOs there must be stations there on the other end. > > This season, there was a week-long expedition to a rare grid in the Northern Peninsula of MI; they were workable from NorCal for a few hours on two days. I managed to work one expedition to a grid a few hundred miles inland from the Gulf Coast that was there for several days, but missed one to another grid. > > Es prop peaks around the summer solstice, and is pretty good for a month or so either side, falling off gradually. Year round, and for distances less than about 1200 miles, meteor scatter and ionospheric scatter are effective with good antennas, power, and persistence. I picked up about > 8 new grids this season with MS. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to marvwheeler at nwlink.com > From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 11:26:37 2020 From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (stephen shearer) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 11:26:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> <728DF56A-6D7F-4045-B82E-D86C8B6F1460@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <30f7cbe8-0d72-e14e-8e6f-fa71f8e3d1cd@gmail.com> OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4 ?? https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) November.... 73, steve On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote: > > Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup > specifically for the K4. > > I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by > enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it > is. ;-) > From keith at elecraft.com Fri Aug 28 11:39:22 2020 From: keith at elecraft.com (Keith Trinity WE6R) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:39:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] How much room when packing a K3S and Message-ID: <5dcc6cbd-7e4f-21e5-5847-994d8568fdf8@elecraft.com> FYI; We do see K3s come in with insufficient packaging when the Elecraft box is not used. Make sure the FEET are not bearing the weight of the radio. Also the AF/RF gain knob, then VFO A knob are the first to take the weight on the front, so they should not be taking the weight in that direction. Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech. From g4gnx at g4gnx.com Fri Aug 28 12:06:04 2020 From: g4gnx at g4gnx.com (Alan - G4GNX) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:06:04 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <30f7cbe8-0d72-e14e-8e6f-fa71f8e3d1cd@gmail.com> References: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> <728DF56A-6D7F-4045-B82E-D86C8B6F1460@widomaker.com> <30f7cbe8-0d72-e14e-8e6f-fa71f8e3d1cd@gmail.com> Message-ID: What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 Ring any bells? ;-) 73, Alan. G4GNX ------ Original Message ------ From: "stephen shearer" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info >OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4 ?? >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) November.... > >73, steve > >On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote: >> >>Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup specifically for the K4. >> >>I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it is. ;-) >> From dana.roode at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 13:28:18 2020 From: dana.roode at gmail.com (Dana Roode K6NR) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:28:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Transmit Timeout for Remote Operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't get any response to my query below, but I have a solution in place finally. I'm no electronics wiz but I found some circuits and constructed something based on a 555 that works nicely. If any else is interested in this, let me know. Dana On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:01 PM Dana Roode K6NR wrote: > I've been using my K3 remote for many years. I'm using VNC to a > controlling PC to operate the K3 and a variety of other equipment. I have > relied on an imperfect external solution to protect against runaway > transmission. > > I've seen postings to the list over the years about a timeout that > tracks when the PTT is on and triggers TX Inhibit if its on more than a > defined length of time, resetting when PTT goes off. Does anyone have a > circuit for this to share or other suggestions? I imagine a 555 timer or > the like with the right interfaces to the K3. I understand that some of > the Remote Radio interfaces have this built in, but I'm not using them. > > Dana > > From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 14:35:41 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:35:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: <3B8EC971-0EA6-4562-B7A5-931189A151E2@yahoo.com> <728DF56A-6D7F-4045-B82E-D86C8B6F1460@widomaker.com> <30f7cbe8-0d72-e14e-8e6f-fa71f8e3d1cd@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes Alan I am a member also, but I forgot also. I can't get wrapped up in a product and go nuts, till it is on the bench. And I was one of the early ones also, and all I am betting that was sold of the K4 those 3 days was the "Full Meal Deal" Paul KB9AVO On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM Alan - G4GNX wrote: > What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at: > https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 > > Ring any bells? ;-) > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "stephen shearer" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info > > >OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4 ?? > >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) > November.... > > > >73, steve > > > >On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote: > >> > >>Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup > specifically for the K4. > >> > >>I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by > enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it > is. ;-) > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pvandyke1953 at gmail.com > From mooneer at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 16:12:32 2020 From: mooneer at gmail.com (Mooneer Salem) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:12:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into it. Thanks, -Mooneer K6AQ From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Fri Aug 28 16:19:59 2020 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:19:59 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info Message-ID: <202008282020.07SKK0g9019224@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but... Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their website. Those who want to know could access and management would be an addition for the Elecraft webmaster to handle. I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club website (in raw html code; no authoring sw). No biggey! 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From c-hawley at illinois.edu Fri Aug 28 16:21:44 2020 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:21:44 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1/4"-20 I think Chuck Hawley c-hawley at illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles ________________________________ From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Mooneer Salem Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft-kx at groups.io Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size Hi all, Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into it. Thanks, -Mooneer K6AQ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu From mooneer at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 16:34:08 2020 From: mooneer at gmail.com (Mooneer Salem) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:34:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck. Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right? -Mooneer K6AQ On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr wrote: > 1/4"-20 I think > > Chuck Hawley > c-hawley at illinois.edu > > Amateur Radio, KE9UW > aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles > > ------------------------------ > *From:* elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net > on behalf of Mooneer Salem > *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM > *To:* Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft-kx at groups.io > > *Subject:* [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? > (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure > 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into > it. > > Thanks, > > -Mooneer K6AQ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu > From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 16:44:28 2020 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:44:28 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Most likely they?re metric .... 73 K0PP On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 14:13 Mooneer Salem wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? > (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure > 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into > it. > > Thanks, > > -Mooneer K6AQ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to elecraftcovers at gmail.com > From c-hawley at illinois.edu Fri Aug 28 16:49:28 2020 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:49:28 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch? Chuck Jack Hawley KE9UW Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote: > > ?Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind > you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no > such luck. > > Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able > to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it > past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and > potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able > to tighten it much further by hand, right? > > -Mooneer K6AQ > >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr >> wrote: >> >> 1/4"-20 I think >> >> Chuck Hawley >> c-hawley at illinois.edu >> >> Amateur Radio, KE9UW >> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net >> on behalf of Mooneer Salem >> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM >> *To:* Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft-kx at groups.io >> >> *Subject:* [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size >> >> Hi all, >> >> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? >> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure >> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into >> it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Mooneer K6AQ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Fri Aug 28 16:59:08 2020 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:59:08 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: <202008282059.07SKx9Ng005420@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Originally, I was looking to hang a half-square on 80m as accidently ended up with two 50-foot towers spaced 130-foot apart. But then around 2011, I got interested and joined the ARRL 600m Experimental Group and was looking at 600m antennas. With just under 2-acres (200x300 foot). there was just not enough horizontal room for an LF antenna. Revising my plans I made a 43x122 foot inverted-L. I tripled the vertical wires and doubled the horizontal wires to get a bit more bandwidth (5-KHz at 495-KHz). I laid out three radials on the ground using 2-foot wide chicken wire and fourth radial was shield of my 120-foot run of 1-5/8 inch Heliax to the tower holding the vertical section. All much shorter than 1/4 WL. http://www.kl7uw.com/630m.htm Efficiency at 475-KHz is terrible (4%) with such a short vertical but it hears well using basically ground-wave prop out to 1100-miles. I've copied Rudy-N6LF several times over much longer path into Oregon from AK (1647 miles). I tried a BOG but though a lot quieter also signals were much less (500-foot not long enough to work well as a Beverage on 600m) With some changes on my base loading coil the invert-L could be used on 160m (maybe some day??). Sidenote to 6m ops: My dual 7-element LFA yagi array is functional for FT8 (Es) or JT65 (eme) or MSK-144 (ms); will have 1000w QRV in few more days (after testing). 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From k2asp at kanafi.org Fri Aug 28 17:33:41 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:33:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/28/2020 1:34 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote: > Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind > you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no > such luck. Sometimes the easiest fix is to buy another jack and just use the nut. Then you will have a spare jack when the time comes to replace it. We all learn the hard way sometimes (I plead guilty to that). 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From k9gs at gjschwartz.com Fri Aug 28 17:48:35 2020 From: k9gs at gjschwartz.com (Gary K9GS) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Or pick up the phone and call Elecraft.? See if they will tell you the nut size and thread.If you ask very nicely they would probably drop one in an envelope and send it to you.73,Gary K9GS -------- Original message --------From: Phil Kane Date: 8/28/20 4:33 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size On 8/28/2020 1:34 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote:> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no> such luck.Sometimes the easiest fix is to buy another jack and just use the nut.Then you will have a spare jack when the time comes to replace it.? Weall learn the hard way sometimes (I plead guilty to that).73 de K2ASP - Phil KaneElecraft K2/100?? s/n 5402From a Clearing in the Silicon ForestBeaverton (Washington County) Oregon______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k9gs at gjschwartz.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri Aug 28 18:52:21 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:52:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98FBC437-D566-4280-AB7E-1BD8191AC105@widomaker.com> You might try some Metric nuts. Like 6 mm. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote: > > ?Hi all, > > Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? > (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure > 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into > it. > > Thanks, > > -Mooneer K6AQ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri Aug 28 18:55:07 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:55:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <202008282020.07SKK0g9019224@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> References: <202008282020.07SKK0g9019224@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <60C37861-9F23-4086-9F80-191778666F1F@widomaker.com> No. They have no interest in doing this. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > ?I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but... > > Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their website. Those who want to know could access and management would be an addition for the Elecraft webmaster to handle. > > I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club website (in raw html code; no authoring sw). No biggey! > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > Dubus-NA Business mail: > dubususa at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From k9yeq at live.com Fri Aug 28 19:13:47 2020 From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 23:13:47 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: Exactly spot on in my opinion. What "works" in my backyard, perhaps will not in yours. What seems to be a great antenna in my yard, doesn't make it movable and working elsewhere. That's the fun of antennas IMHO. Love to experiment and don't take too seriously all the suggestions. I like talking about antennas but not pontificating about one over another. 73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Lyn Norstad Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:41 AM To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Jim, K9YC wrote, in part: >My approach to ham radio has never been mediocrity, but rather to get better at everything within the limits of my real estate and resources. Bingo! We would all like to build the "perfect" antenna for each band and each intended usage, but more often than not, there are limitations. In my case, a vertical of any significance would not be permitted by HOA rules (visible from street), nor would installation of a suitable radial system be possible due to septic drain field and other considerations - both physical and aesthetic. So we do what we can and try to maximize the performance thereof. Done. 73 Lyn, W0LEN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 19:24:25 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:24:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit. Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual calls out the nut size. On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote: >Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.? > >Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right? > >-Mooneer K6AQ > >On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote: >1/4"-20? I think > >Chuck Hawley >? c-hawley at illinois.edu >? >? Amateur Radio, KE9UW >? aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles? > > >---------- >From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Mooneer Salem <mooneer at gmail.com> >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM >To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; elecraft-kx at groups.io <elecraft-kx at groups.io> >Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size >? >Hi all, > >Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? >(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure >1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into >it. > >Thanks, > >-Mooneer K6AQ >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu > >_._,_._,_ > >---------- >Groups.io Links: > >You receive all messages sent to this group. > >View/Reply Online (#67316) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic > >Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [73.de.NE1EE at gmail.com] >_._,_._,_ ~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE On the banks of the Piscataqua From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Aug 28 19:27:08 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:27:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> References: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: It's metric. If you need one, we'll send it at no charge. Please contact support. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Rich NE1EE <73.de.NE1EE at gmail.com> wrote: > > It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit. > > Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual calls out the nut size. > > On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote: >> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.? >> >> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right? >> >> -Mooneer K6AQ >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote: >> 1/4"-20? I think >> >> Chuck Hawley >> ? c-hawley at illinois.edu >> ? >> ? Amateur Radio, KE9UW >> ? aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles? >> >> >> ---------- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Mooneer Salem <mooneer at gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; elecraft-kx at groups.io <elecraft-kx at groups.io> >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size >> ? >> Hi all, >> >> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? >> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure >> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into >> it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Mooneer K6AQ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu >> >> > > > ~R~ > 72/73 de Rich NE1EE > On the banks of the Piscataqua > > > > -- > 72/73 de Rich NE1EE > On the banks of the Piscataqua > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#67319): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/message/67319 > Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76482569/210903 > Group Owner: Elecraft-KX+owner at groups.io > Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/leave/4394121/1955542352/xyzzy [n6kr at elecraft.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > From rick.nk7i at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 19:38:44 2020 From: rick.nk7i at gmail.com (Rick Bates, NK7I) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:38:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> Message-ID: <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> For the record, I agree but as I made no series of qualifying tests; all I was able to state in my previous comments was that the inverted L was more efficient (heard by more) and I heard better when I went vertical. Both of which can be my change in location; this locale is loads quieter, one of the points I reviewed before purchase.? Although moving 800 miles north in NA rarely helps propagation (I didn't move here for the fast internet or easy prop).? I can state that I have another 80 or so ATNO since the move (because I can HEAR now!); sitting at 304 worked (but I really have to work on getting more QSL cards). What I have now works ; I mostly work what I hear (and with a K3, that ain't bad).? Will it work better with stacked arrays and/or taller towers?? We'll never know.? ;-)?? Soon I'll be down to one antenna per band (total 2 for HF).? While that makes 'single point failure' possible, I like simple... and I have other endeavors should the antenna/s fail. 73, Rick NK7I FAR North Idaho On 8/28/2020 4:13 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: > Exactly spot on in my opinion. What "works" in my backyard, perhaps will not in yours. What seems to be a great antenna in my yard, doesn't make it movable and working elsewhere. That's the fun of antennas IMHO. Love to experiment and don't take too seriously all the suggestions. I like talking about antennas but not pontificating about one over another. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Lyn Norstad > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:41 AM > To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters > > Jim, K9YC wrote, in part: > >> My approach to ham radio has never been mediocrity, but rather to get > better at everything within the limits of my real estate and resources. > > Bingo! We would all like to build the "perfect" antenna for each band and > each intended usage, but more often than not, there are limitations. > > In my case, a vertical of any significance would not be permitted by HOA > rules (visible from street), nor would installation of a suitable radial > system be possible due to septic drain field and other considerations - both > physical and aesthetic. > > So we do what we can and try to maximize the performance thereof. > > Done. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.nk7i at gmail.com From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 19:47:06 2020 From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (stephen shearer) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:47:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> References: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7fcdb502-02fa-1b11-0550-54f57c31f69a@gmail.com> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-devices/SJ1-43502PM/CP-SJ1-43502PM-ND/5130707 It may not be correct, but IF sizes use "standard" nuts... M7x0.75 ? someplace to start? 73, steve On 8/28/20 7:24 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit. > > Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual calls out the nut size. > > On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote: >> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.? >> >> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right? >> >> -Mooneer K6AQ >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote: >> 1/4"-20? I think >> >> Chuck Hawley >> ? c-hawley at illinois.edu >> ? >> ? Amateur Radio, KE9UW >> ? aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles? >> >> >> ---------- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Mooneer Salem <mooneer at gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; elecraft-kx at groups.io <elecraft-kx at groups.io> >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size >> ? >> Hi all, >> >> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? >> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure >> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into >> it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Mooneer K6AQ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu >> >> > > > ~R~ > 72/73 de Rich NE1EE > On the banks of the Piscataqua > > > From ve3nr at bell.net Fri Aug 28 19:53:43 2020 From: ve3nr at bell.net (Bert) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <7fcdb502-02fa-1b11-0550-54f57c31f69a@gmail.com> References: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> <7fcdb502-02fa-1b11-0550-54f57c31f69a@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ad1686b-7602-a018-3c5a-9035e1659fca@bell.net> M7 is not really a standard size in every day mechanics. Rarely used. Standard sizes are M3, M4, M5, M6, M8, M10, M12 and so on. Bert VE3NR/SM7BUR On 2020-08-28 19:47, stephen shearer wrote: > https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-devices/SJ1-43502PM/CP-SJ1-43502PM-ND/5130707 > > > It may not be correct, but IF sizes use "standard" nuts... M7x0.75?? ? > someplace to start? > > 73, steve > > On 8/28/20 7:24 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote: >> It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine >> threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they >> don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. >> And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not >> stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many >> of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" >> that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be >> "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the >> nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all >> sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. >> (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a >> manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I >> was sure that I had a proper fit. >> >> Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the >> kit manual calls out the nut size. >> >> On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote: >>> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick >>> mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are >>> correct) and no such luck.? >>> >>> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it >>> was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I >>> couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it >>> with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct >>> size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right? >>> >>> -Mooneer K6AQ >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr >>> <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote: >>> 1/4"-20?? I think >>> >>> Chuck Hawley >>> ? c-hawley at illinois.edu >>> ? >>> ? Amateur Radio, KE9UW >>> ? aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles? >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: >>> elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net >>> <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> >>> on behalf of Mooneer Salem >>> <mooneer at gmail.com> >>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM >>> To: Elecraft Reflector >>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; >>> elecraft-kx at groups.io >>> <elecraft-kx at groups.io> >>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size >>> ? >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on >>> the KX3? >>> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to >>> measure >>> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw >>> into >>> it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Mooneer K6AQ >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: >>> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to >>> c-hawley at illinois.edu >>> >>> >> >> >> ~R~ >> 72/73 de Rich NE1EE >> On the banks of the Piscataqua >> >> >> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#67321): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/message/67321 > Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76482569/1702448 > Group Owner: Elecraft-KX+owner at groups.io > Unsubscribe: > https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/leave/8646834/2140934009/xyzzy > [ve3nr at bell.net] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > From w6jhb at me.com Fri Aug 28 19:58:12 2020 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:58:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> For those of you who have limited real estate, like I do, and have HOA/CC&R issues, AND want to get on 160 meters, you might want to do some reading on the Folded CounterPoise (FCP). Do a Google search and you?ll uncover several hits and links to this unusual and workable compromise ?radial? system. I live on a small California city lot and am not allowed towers, beams, etc. I do have several redwoods on the property that allow me to string thin, stealthy wires. With a large patio and an in-ground pool, there is absolutely no place for conventional 160 meter radials.I came across the FCP several years ago. Built one for an 80 meter Inverted L and another for a 160 meter Inverted L. Both work very well - they are mounted on the upper part of the fences around our property. One hundred percent not seen outside of our property. The antenna wire is nearly impossible to see. Can I easily get DXCC on 160 meters? Heck no. But I did complete WAS and have about 25 countries (all CW) confirmed on Top Band. If you have limited property and still want to operate 160, take a look at the FCP. Jim / W6JHB > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: > > For the record, I agree but as I made no series of qualifying tests; all I was able to state in my previous comments was that the inverted L was more efficient (heard by more) and I heard better when I went vertical. > > Both of which can be my change in location; this locale is loads quieter, one of the points I reviewed before purchase. Although moving 800 miles north in NA rarely helps propagation (I didn't move here for the fast internet or easy prop). I can state that I have another 80 or so ATNO since the move (because I can HEAR now!); sitting at 304 worked (but I really have to work on getting more QSL cards). > > What I have now works ; I mostly work what I hear (and with a K3, that ain't bad). Will it work better with stacked arrays and/or taller towers? We'll never know. ;-) Soon I'll be down to one antenna per band (total 2 for HF). While that makes 'single point failure' possible, I like simple... and I have other endeavors should the antenna/s fail. > > 73, > Rick NK7I > FAR North Idaho > > On 8/28/2020 4:13 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: >> Exactly spot on in my opinion. What "works" in my backyard, perhaps will not in yours. What seems to be a great antenna in my yard, doesn't make it movable and working elsewhere. That's the fun of antennas IMHO. Love to experiment and don't take too seriously all the suggestions. I like talking about antennas but not pontificating about one over another. >> >> 73, >> Bill >> K9YEQ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Lyn Norstad >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:41 AM >> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters >> >> Jim, K9YC wrote, in part: >> >>> My approach to ham radio has never been mediocrity, but rather to get >> better at everything within the limits of my real estate and resources. >> >> Bingo! We would all like to build the "perfect" antenna for each band and >> each intended usage, but more often than not, there are limitations. >> >> In my case, a vertical of any significance would not be permitted by HOA >> rules (visible from street), nor would installation of a suitable radial >> system be possible due to septic drain field and other considerations - both >> physical and aesthetic. >> >> So we do what we can and try to maximize the performance thereof. >> >> Done. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rick.nk7i at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Fri Aug 28 20:02:23 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:02:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <6ad1686b-7602-a018-3c5a-9035e1659fca@bell.net> References: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> <7fcdb502-02fa-1b11-0550-54f57c31f69a@gmail.com> <6ad1686b-7602-a018-3c5a-9035e1659fca@bell.net> Message-ID: <1a5114c8-4beb-7f2f-17ee-174844862a88@foothill.net> Wayne answered this question folks, it's metric, call support and they'll send you one [or 2, they're small] 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/28/2020 4:53 PM, Bert wrote: > M7 is not really a standard size in every day mechanics. Rarely used. > Standard sizes are M3, M4, M5, M6, M8, M10, M12 and so on. > > Bert VE3NR/SM7BUR From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Aug 28 20:11:06 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:11:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/28/2020 4:38 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: > For the record, I agree but as I made no series of qualifying tests; I've done both building and modeling. When I first moved to W6 in 2006, I had a 160M dipole up about 110 ft redwoods AND a Tee vertical about 80 ft vertical with enough top to resonate it, and about 50 radials on the ground, varying length. I worked a lot of contests over several years, always A/B comparisons. The vertical almost always won, often by a lot. With legal limit, I could reliably work good stations 800 miles or so two hours before sunset on the vertical, not even a "QRZ?" on the dipole. And that dipole was more than twice as high as most hams could rig. When I lost the horizontal dipole in a storm I didn't consider repairing and re-rigging it. Modeling predicts the vertical outperforms at most vertical angles. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Aug 28 20:12:58 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:12:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> Message-ID: <8a5d76ac-61a2-e17a-e8d0-7a76f09ca9b9@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/28/2020 4:58 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote: > If you have limited property and still want to operate 160, take a look at the FCP. Yes, two of my friends have had success with it, and it's one of many options in the 160M slide show that I posted a day or two ago in this thread. k9yc.com/publish.htm Scroll down to find it. 73, Jim K9YC From k2asp at kanafi.org Fri Aug 28 20:48:48 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:48:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch? Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :) 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From n6lrv at outlook.com Fri Aug 28 21:06:59 2020 From: n6lrv at outlook.com (n6lrv at outlook.com) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 01:06:59 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] License Fee Changes Proposed by the U.S. FCC Message-ID: This week the U.S. FCC proposed fee changes for all licensing including amateur. More can be read here . Gary, N6LRV From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 21:14:26 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:14:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> References: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> Message-ID: <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all. Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them. On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote: >On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > >> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch? > >Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :) > >73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane >Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From W2xj at w2xj.net Fri Aug 28 21:25:20 2020 From: W2xj at w2xj.net (W2xj) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:25:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <8a5d76ac-61a2-e17a-e8d0-7a76f09ca9b9@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <8a5d76ac-61a2-e17a-e8d0-7a76f09ca9b9@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <9DD1F696-CD4E-46F9-91FD-AAA11DB09A93@w2xj.net> Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > ?On 8/28/2020 4:58 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote: >> If you have limited property and still want to operate 160, take a look at the FCP. > > Yes, two of my friends have had success with it, and it's one of many options in the 160M slide show that I posted a day or two ago in this thread. k9yc.com/publish.htm Scroll down to find it. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w2xj at w2xj.net From k6dgw at foothill.net Fri Aug 28 22:12:58 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:12:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> References: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <19e0c6b5-d15b-761e-81f9-88637b1b0815@foothill.net> In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew up with.? We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4".? We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was.? Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal.? I came home ... they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid.? It would be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of my lifetime.? But, I'm not holding my breath. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all. > > Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them. > > On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote: >> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: >> >>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch? >> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :) >> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane >> From byron at n6nul.org Fri Aug 28 22:32:39 2020 From: byron at n6nul.org (Byron Servies) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:32:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <19e0c6b5-d15b-761e-81f9-88637b1b0815@foothill.net> References: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> <19e0c6b5-d15b-761e-81f9-88637b1b0815@foothill.net> Message-ID: I agree 100% Despite my scientific training, which was all metric, I have spent ages adjusting my wet-ware to it. 5280ft / mi? WTF? Indeed, just today, I thought, what is this space in millimeters? 60? It was 65, and I was happy. The same with volumes and grams. It just works. But, I, too, am not holding my breath. When I called Festool a couple of years ago for the metric scales for my saw and router (they switched to Imperial for the US market), they told me I was the first one to ask for them. They were free. Nevermind that sheet material is actually make in metric even for our market and is only inch-like. 73, Byron N6NUL p.s. Imperial units in the US have been officially defined in metric for decades. On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:14 PM Fred Jensen wrote: > > In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by > amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, > gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of > stupid measures I grew up with. We had 2x4's, which actually were not > 2" x 4". We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason > ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was. Then, the US Military sent > me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think > metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal. I came home ... > they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid. It would > be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of > my lifetime. But, I'm not holding my breath. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > > Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all. > > > > Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them. > > > > On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote: > >> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > >> > >>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch? > >> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :) > >> > >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to byron at n6nul.org -- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2020 - www.cqp.org From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri Aug 28 22:45:12 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 22:45:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 8/28/20 at 9:14 PM, 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) wrote: >Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of >sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few >Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to >Canada...could not find one in the US at all. Companies like Forestry Suppliers have tapes in both Metric and US measures. I particularly like the Metric/Feet and 1/10 - 1/100 tapes. You can do the arithmetic without converting to 1/12s of a foot. They are great for making wire antennas. They also have longer tapes up to 100M. And I agree with Skip about metric vs US. Please tell me which is bigger in diameter, a number 35 drill or a number 27? How about a number 4 knitting needle or a number 8? True trivia: The book, "Measuring America" says that at the time of the American Revolution there were over 100,000 measurement units in use in the colanies. Some of this came from the miller using different bushles for buying grain and selling flour. (The difference was his profit margin.) 73 Bill AE6JV --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common 408-348-7900 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier From len at ka7ftp.com Fri Aug 28 22:51:45 2020 From: len at ka7ftp.com (len at ka7ftp.com) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:51:45 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <19e0c6b5-d15b-761e-81f9-88637b1b0815@foothill.net> References: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> <19e0c6b5-d15b-761e-81f9-88637b1b0815@foothill.net> Message-ID: <015101d67daf$554fa4c0$ffeeee40$@ka7ftp.com> Actually... not so "stupid" if you are in the building trades. 12 has more factors than 10, which makes is a LOT more convenient when breaking it into divisible segments. Also... it keeps us safe from the Canadians invading. Everytime they've tried they fall short of their destination. ;) -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:13 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew up with. We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4". We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was. Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal. I came home ... they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid. It would be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of my lifetime. But, I'm not holding my breath. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all. > > Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them. > > On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote: >> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: >> >>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch? >> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... >> :) >> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to len at ka7ftp.com From ab7echo at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 23:43:18 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:43:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> Message-ID: Another possibility for a compact counterpoise is what N6BT calls an "open ring" as part of his VOR (Vertical, Open Ring) concept.? It's basically a horizontal, elevated, single turn 1/4 wavelength length of wire wrapped around the base of the vertical ... one end open and the other end running to the feedpoint at the base of the vertical at the center of the counterpoise loop.?? Mechanically, if the lines holding up the vertical are non-conductive, spaced and positioned properly, the counterpoise wire can be supported above ground by the lines.? I've modeled several antennas with it (including versions where the counterpoise is comprised of two wires spaced several inches apart for better bandwidth) and the concept looks viable. N6BT wrote an article on it in an issue of the NCJ about 18 months ago if anyone wants more details. 73, Dave?? AB7E On 8/28/2020 4:58 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote: > For those of you who have limited real estate, like I do, and have HOA/CC&R issues, AND want to get on 160 meters, you might want to do some reading on the Folded CounterPoise (FCP). Do a Google search and you?ll uncover several hits and links to this unusual and workable compromise ?radial? system. > > I live on a small California city lot and am not allowed towers, beams, etc. I do have several redwoods on the property that allow me to string thin, stealthy wires. With a large patio and an in-ground pool, there is absolutely no place for conventional 160 meter radials.I came across the FCP several years ago. Built one for an 80 meter Inverted L and another for a 160 meter Inverted L. Both work very well - they are mounted on the upper part of the fences around our property. One hundred percent not seen outside of our property. The antenna wire is nearly impossible to see. Can I easily get DXCC on 160 meters? Heck no. But I did complete WAS and have about 25 countries (all CW) confirmed on Top Band. > > If you have limited property and still want to operate 160, take a look at the FCP. > > Jim / W6JHB > From mooneer at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 03:59:25 2020 From: mooneer at gmail.com (Mooneer Salem) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 00:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: <5f49922f.1c69fb81.19246.30c5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Wayne and everyone else who responded! I should be able to get in touch with support sometime next week. Anyway, I figured it was something like being metric instead of imperial. It would be nice if everything was the same for sure. -Mooneer K6AQ On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:27 PM N6KR wrote: > It's metric. If you need one, we'll send it at no charge. Please contact > support. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Rich NE1EE <73.de.NE1EE at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine > threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. > You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for > a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut > when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the > Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that > the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you > be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works > for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. > (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a > manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was > sure that I had a proper fit. > > > > Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit > manual calls out the nut size. > > > > On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote: > >> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind > you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no > such luck.? > >> > >> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was > able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate > it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and > potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able > to tighten it much further by hand, right? > >> > >> -Mooneer K6AQ > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr < c-hawley at illinois.edu>c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote: > >> 1/4"-20? I think > >> > >> Chuck Hawley > >> ? c-hawley at illinois.edu > >> ? > >> ? Amateur Radio, KE9UW > >> ? aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles? > >> > >> > >> ---------- > >> From: > elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net < >elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Mooneer Salem < mooneer at gmail.com>mooneer at gmail.com> > >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM > >> To: Elecraft Reflector < > elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; > elecraft-kx at groups.io <elecraft-kx at groups.io > > > >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size > >> ? > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the > KX3? > >> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to > measure > >> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw > into > >> it. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -Mooneer K6AQ > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to > c-hawley at illinois.edu > >> > >> > > > > > > ~R~ > > 72/73 de Rich NE1EE > > On the banks of the Piscataqua > > > > > > > > -- > > 72/73 de Rich NE1EE > > On the banks of the Piscataqua > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#67320): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/message/67320 > Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76482569/244332 > Group Owner: Elecraft-KX+owner at groups.io > Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-KX/leave/4393955/225655173/xyzzy > [mooneer at gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 08:16:25 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:16:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size Message-ID: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> I enjoy cooking and baking. All my recipes are in metric, and based on mass where ever I can, to get away from "cups", etc. I am an amateur woodworker, and all my work is metric. A while back I completed a table with nearly 100 unique angles (trust me, it looks fine ;-)...all the while being told that a) I couldn't do it at all, and b) if I could, not in metric!!! I had a guy at the place where I buy wood remark that wood was coming in "weird" dimensions! When I got home, I measured it and found that it was exact metric dimensions. Mixing shellac is way easier in metric. You should see the hoops that you jump through using USCU. My ham buddies are constantly remarking "oh, yeah, you use that metric stuff" when I mention that my antenna is a 40m EF. Doesn't that make more sense when I think of the bands it might work on? ***It's just a difficulty making the transition...then it's easier. I'll bet you could get everyone in the US to criticise the use of pounds, shilling, pence, and so on, when compared to the dollar in base 10...but turn the discussion to a general one of metric, and I get "but it's so confusing" all the time...is it really easier to remember conversions of feet and inches to metric for antennas? I was calculating an antenna dimension the other day, and it came to 1780mm...which is 1.78m...no fancy math involved. Imagine me calculating that in feet, and then converting to some precise measurement...I don't have a tape measure marked in decimal feet. I bought a 30m tape that winds up into a case. It has been working fine for many years. With regard to "12 has more factors than 10" in another post, I suggest that this is a matter of habit. Being able to divide 12 so many ways doesn't necessarily make it more useful, I opine, just more familiar. In grammar school, I had to learn a bunch of yard-foot-mile-etc conversions, but in SI, it's all base ten. I can divide 1780mm any way I want. In fact, a friend of mine who is a builder came to me for help one day calculating distances to do with an unusual roof angle. Showing him how to use his calculator to do the calcs was the easy part...the hard part was translating 20 feet 3 3/16 inches to decimal so that he could do the math, then convert that back to feet and inches. There are, I hear, calculators specifically designed to do this sort of math. Talk about a niche product. I too a piece of heavy glass (amateur photographer equipment) to a glass place to be split in 2. You should have seen the effort to measure in USCU and divide accurately by 2, without decimals. A snap in metric. 0C as a freezing point makes so much more sense than 32F. And yes all my house temperatures report in C. And I use ISO dates yyyy-mm-dd, and 24hr time. Can't tell you the number of times there was confusion because someone was not sure if a time for some event was 8am or pm, when the context could go either way. ***I don't say that converting our brains is easy, especially when we have learned something so fundamental as distance and volume in our youth...drilled into us, as it were. But the effort is so well worth it. I completely empathize with those who are still USCU, and find it a struggle to move to metric. The hardest unit for me is big distances. I still feel more comfortable estimating some distance as 3 miles than as 5km. Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page. There are some illusions. Say I know that I need to go 15 miles, and I can do it at 60 mph. Neat, right? But what if I need to go 13 miles at 45 mph? (OK, those of us who do math estimating easily in our heads find this trivial.) But we fall into the habit of creating such shortcuts. I am much more likely to estimate a 13 or 14 mile trip as 15, so the math is easier. And 60 mph is a mile/minute, also convenient. But I could as easily get used to doing 100kph, and then saying that 50k will take 30 minutes. Driving around metric countries, it doesn't take long to see that all the speeds are in metric-friendly units, not something like 96.6 kph. I do a lot of my own work, such as maintaining my motorcycles and such...so I have 2 sets of tools. Sigh. there was a time when I could get metric items more easily at HD, but several years ago they switched to carrying far fewer metric items. On 2020-08-28 19:12:-0700, Fred Jensen wrote: >In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew up with.? We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4".? We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was.? Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal.? I came home ... they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid.? It would be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of my lifetime.? But, I'm not holding my breath. > >73, > >Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >Sparks NV DM09dn >Washoe County ~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE On the banks of the Piscataqua From armin.roesch at bluewin.ch Sat Aug 29 10:00:51 2020 From: armin.roesch at bluewin.ch (HB9MFL) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:00:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3_2m_limited_power Message-ID: <1598709651445-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi all, I have the following effect on my KX3 equipped with the 2m module: Max Power is set to 3.0W If I set to TUNE I can increase the rf from 0 up to eg. 3.0W. But the power does only increase to about 650mW and the most confusing is the fact that in the display the power jumps back to 0.9W! A short movie can be see here: https://www.mycloud.ch/l/P00BBFDF3256A56FD3D07AB35274144A50BF5F24AB9A6B837983B214C77EE5ADA Unmount all to check. The nut was no more soldered to the final transistor. Reload firmware Reload the last configuration when the TRX was working well. >> Still the same confusing effect. 73 Armin HB9MFL -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From g4vrr57 at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 10:25:35 2020 From: g4vrr57 at gmail.com (Steve Gray) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:25:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1598711135559-0.post@n2.nabble.com> This is supposed to be addressed to the group, not Rich specifically, but on this so-called "smart" 'phone, I cannot see how to do that, nor how to strip out the miles (kilometres!) of duplicated commentary. Mea culpa my friends. One day! While I was still working, I used to build aircraft interior equipment, specifically galleys and associated structures, and everything was in imperial (actually decimal inches.) We used UNF and UNC attachment fasteners. Even Airbus tolerated our decimal inch drawings and Boeing was a given. I became completely conversant with imperial- both fractional and decimal, but also metric. I routinely read fractional tape measures as a decimal inch converted mentally on the fly. What I'm saying is it's only a cocktail of laziness, stubborness and ********* to plough ahead with one system completely in denial of another potentially better one. In my closing years I did Q.A. and First Article Inspection. I wouldn't have survived with Boeing or Airbus if I'd refused to be conversant in all systems. While at college (I did Environmental Engineering) we were taught dimensional analysis of equations. Everything is reduced to Length, Mass and Time (ignoring wild cards like viscosity). When you see an equation substantiated in this way, a light goes on in your head and the benefits of the S.I. System are obvious. Until that is inculcated into your skull, you take equations as something that is commited to memory but maybe never stopping to consider why or who the heck figured that out? Sure you can arrive at the same results using imperial units, but only if you remember (without fail) to deploy empirical fudge factors so inches can be used alongside ounces and so on. That said, the S.I. unit is the metre. The recognised sub unit is the millimetre. (not the centimetre). Suppose you want to cut something six feet long (1,829 millimetres)? You pull out the tape measure and it happens to be upside down. Enough times for it to be a lurking threat you measure (eg) 1,819 instead of 1.829 by mistake. It's your own fault, but for humans interacting with the world I submit that feet and inches are a better way, but for engineers (or anyone that likes to think of themselves as such.) The S.I. System is a far better way to do things. I also think that the evolved usage of centimetres is a tacit admission that inches were better than millimetres. $0.02 of course. Steve, G4VRR. -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From tom at w7sua.org Sat Aug 29 11:57:01 2020 From: tom at w7sua.org (Tom Azlin W7SUA) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:57:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> References: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> Message-ID: I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not consider any of it as tying up this one. Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line) On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote: > More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill From tknorris0001 at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 13:09:12 2020 From: tknorris0001 at gmail.com (Tom NB5Q) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:09:12 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] OT - HF 40' Tower Vertical recommendaations Message-ID: My 40 year old Ham IV has major problems (stored for 30 years) and I'm thinking with my limited operating I will just put up a 40' tower (which I have) and a vertical *without* radials. Does anyone have experience with a like situation and can recommend a vertical for this purpose. I do have 10m-80m OCFD that will be transferred from 25' pipe to 40' tower. Thank you, Tom NB5Q From KI4LYS at msn.com Sat Aug 29 13:29:15 2020 From: KI4LYS at msn.com (Joseph McIntire) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 17:29:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] W2 wattmeter Message-ID: My wattmeter seems to be displaying the wrong SWR on the LEDs. I bought a digital display unit on line. The radio has an internal ATU. The radio says tuned 1.0 - 1. when I key the radio says 1.0 - 1 and the DDU says .16 SWR but the LEDs show 1.5 - 1. So if I hit 1.2 - 1 the LEDs all flash so I can not tell at a glance if the SWR is good. So I was wondering if any one had seen this or know if it can be fixed without sending it in. I already replaced the coupler do to i thought that was the problem. Joe AB3JN Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Aug 29 13:49:31 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:49:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] W2 wattmeter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3cfcf627-cd02-d802-c9a1-8d4a82aabd91@embarqmail.com> Joe, The telling answer is in your statement "the radio has an internal ATU". The radio is showing the SWR between the radio and the ATU. The wattmeter is showing you the SWR after the ATU - in other words, the SWR of the untuned antenna. So there may be nothing wrong. Connect a dummy load to the wattmeter output and see what that reads - should be 1.0. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/29/2020 1:29 PM, Joseph McIntire wrote: > My wattmeter seems to be displaying the wrong SWR on the LEDs. I bought a digital display unit on line. The radio has an internal ATU. The radio says tuned 1.0 - 1. when I key the radio says 1.0 - 1 and the DDU says .16 SWR but the LEDs show 1.5 - 1. So if I hit 1.2 - 1 the LEDs all flash so I can not tell at a glance if the SWR is good. So I was wondering if any one had seen this or know if it can be fixed without sending it in. I already replaced the coupler do to i thought that was the problem. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 29 13:57:01 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:57:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <9DD1F696-CD4E-46F9-91FD-AAA11DB09A93@w2xj.net> References: <8a5d76ac-61a2-e17a-e8d0-7a76f09ca9b9@audiosystemsgroup.com> <9DD1F696-CD4E-46F9-91FD-AAA11DB09A93@w2xj.net> Message-ID: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote: > Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts. Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom in or out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the first complaint. 73, Jim K9YC From larrydwarner at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 14:35:37 2020 From: larrydwarner at gmail.com (larrydwarner at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:35:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FOR SALE Message-ID: <048501d67e33$3104fa50$930eeef0$@gmail.com> For Sale: Elecraft KX3 S/N 8399 and PX3 S/N 1574 Both Factory Built delivered new December 2015 Low hours, never used outside the shack, nonsmoking home, look like new. KX3 KX3 160-6M transceiver S/N 8399 KXAT3 Internal 20W ATU KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger w/Real Time Clock KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter KX3-2M-AT 2M module for KX3 KXPD3 Precision Keyer Paddle for KX3 KX3-PCKT KX3 Accessory Cable Set MH3 Hand Microphone for KX3 PX3 Panadapter for KX3 S/N 1574 Plus the KX3 and PX3 have www.gemsproducts.com Side KX end panels and Poly-carbonate covers Cables and other extras included. New price today over $3,000 All for $1450 including shipping in continental US. Reach me off list at larrydwarner at outlook.com From w6jhb at me.com Sat Aug 29 15:03:29 2020 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:03:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done?? Message-ID: <082424E9-29B9-442C-BB9D-442C05701324@me.com> Just spent an hour reviewing the K3 and P3 manuals to no avail. I?ve had these two pieces of equipment for ten years and you?d think I ought to know exactly how to control them, but it appears that either something inside has gone kaflooy or I?ve screwed up something myself. I suspect the latter? When I turn on RIT and adjust the RIT knob, the K3 changes frequency and displays it correctly on the LCD. However, what happens on the P3 is the opposite! Turning the RIT knob clockwise increases the K3 frequency and display, but the red line on the P3 moves to the LEFT, not the right as it should. The P3 frequency display increases as it should, but the red line goes the opposite direction. The XIT function works as it should. Any hints? This has me stumped! Tnx, Jim . W6JHB From W2xj at w2xj.net Sat Aug 29 15:41:06 2020 From: W2xj at w2xj.net (W2xj) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:41:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 years. You need to work more on webpage layout. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > ?On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote: >> Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts. > > Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom in or out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the first complaint. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w2xj at w2xj.net From w6jhb at me.com Sat Aug 29 15:50:37 2020 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:50:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done?? In-Reply-To: <007001d67e38$692bb9f0$3b832dd0$@erols.com> References: <082424E9-29B9-442C-BB9D-442C05701324@me.com> <007001d67e38$692bb9f0$3b832dd0$@erols.com> Message-ID: <5DE4A32F-4775-4C5F-B26C-D5C82B6DABBA@me.com> Nope, that red line should move off to the right on the P3, just like it does when the XIT is enabled. What happens on your P3 when you turn on RIT on the K3 and true the knob to increase frequency? Jim > On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie T wrote: > > It sounds to me like it's doing exactly what it should > I feel you should re-think this. > If you move UP in frequency via the RIT, shouldn't the line move the other direction, so that the frequency is displayed to the right of the line? > > If this is wrong, then I'm the one who's screwy. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of James Bennett via Elecraft > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:03 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done?? > > Just spent an hour reviewing the K3 and P3 manuals to no avail. I?ve had these two pieces of equipment for ten years and you?d think I ought to know exactly how to control them, but it appears that either something inside has gone kaflooy or I?ve screwed up something myself. I suspect the latter? > > When I turn on RIT and adjust the RIT knob, the K3 changes frequency and displays it correctly on the LCD. However, what happens on the P3 is the opposite! Turning the RIT knob clockwise increases the K3 frequency and display, but the red line on the P3 moves to the LEFT, not the right as it should. The P3 frequency display increases as it should, but the red line goes the opposite direction. The XIT function works as it should. > > Any hints? This has me stumped! > > Tnx, Jim . W6JHB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com > From josh at voodoolab.com Sat Aug 29 15:55:42 2020 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:55:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> References: <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> Message-ID: <61B39355-C15F-4D19-B482-B084913C392A@voodoolab.com> Wow. No good deed... 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > You need to work more on webpage layout. From k2asp at kanafi.org Sat Aug 29 16:06:48 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:06:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set > a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page. The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974 (*). It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the Sidewalk Act that predates it. The main reason that we see it at all in the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want to have two different production lines, * My Ford sedan is built to metric standards... :) During my tenure, FCC rules and standards were rewritten to express dimensions in metric, but the conversion from USCU wasn't smooth. For instance, one specification for certain antenna heights was "20 feet above ground". So what did the FCC do? Changed it to "6.1 meters (20 feet) above ground". Why not an even 6 meters?? Everyone still refers to it as the "20 foot rule". The neglected metric unit, although not past of the SI, is the gradian (grad). 100 grads to a quadrant. 400 grads to a full circle. 1 grad = 0.9 degree. It is used mainly in European surveying, but since May 2020 is legal for use in the US. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sat Aug 29 16:08:30 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:08:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> References: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> Message-ID: Why don't you start a go fund me page so Jim can hire a full-time web page designer. On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote: > page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 years. You need to work more on webpage layout. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> >> ?On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote: >>> Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts. >> Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom in or out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the first complaint. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Aug 29 16:13:40 2020 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:13:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> References: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> Message-ID: <431a87f8-806f-833e-461f-8248d143f79b@audiosystemsgroup.com> On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote: > page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 years. That's YOUR problem, not mine. > You need to work more on webpage layout. Let's see if I understand this. I spend thousands of hours doing extensive research and generating free content and I need to do more to work with YOUR computer? 73, Jim K9YC From ve3nr at bell.net Sat Aug 29 16:52:24 2020 From: ve3nr at bell.net (Bert) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:52:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <431a87f8-806f-833e-461f-8248d143f79b@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> <431a87f8-806f-833e-461f-8248d143f79b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <31405b9b-54a9-e872-7597-fd896945bb29@bell.net> You're doing great Jim and we're all thankful for all the work you've have done, free of charge to the rest of us. Don't let anybody rattle your cage! ;-)) Bert VE3NR On 2020-08-29 16:13, Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote: >> page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 >> years. > > That's YOUR problem, not mine. > >> You need to work more on webpage layout. > > Let's see if I understand this. I spend thousands of hours doing > extensive research and generating free content and I need to do more > to work with YOUR computer? > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ve3nr at bell.net From W2xj at w2xj.net Sat Aug 29 17:21:40 2020 From: W2xj at w2xj.net (W2xj) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 17:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <431a87f8-806f-833e-461f-8248d143f79b@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <431a87f8-806f-833e-461f-8248d143f79b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Here?s a readable website https://k2av.com/ Sent from my iPad > On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > ?On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote: >> page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 years. > > That's YOUR problem, not mine. > >> You need to work more on webpage layout. > > Let's see if I understand this. I spend thousands of hours doing extensive research and generating free content and I need to do more to work with YOUR computer? > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w2xj at w2xj.net From w6jhb at me.com Sat Aug 29 17:36:40 2020 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 14:36:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done?? In-Reply-To: <5DE4A32F-4775-4C5F-B26C-D5C82B6DABBA@me.com> References: <082424E9-29B9-442C-BB9D-442C05701324@me.com> <007001d67e38$692bb9f0$3b832dd0$@erols.com> <5DE4A32F-4775-4C5F-B26C-D5C82B6DABBA@me.com> Message-ID: <22AF5B13-423D-40CE-B391-048F9B85908C@me.com> OK - general consensus is that it is working as is supposed to. I guess someone slipped me some whacky weed when I wasn?t looking. I?ll crawl back in my hole now. :-) 73, Jim > On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:50 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote: > > Nope, that red line should move off to the right on the P3, just like it does when the XIT is enabled. What happens on your P3 when you turn on RIT on the K3 and true the knob to increase frequency? > > Jim > >> On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie T wrote: >> >> It sounds to me like it's doing exactly what it should >> I feel you should re-think this. >> If you move UP in frequency via the RIT, shouldn't the line move the other direction, so that the frequency is displayed to the right of the line? >> >> If this is wrong, then I'm the one who's screwy. >> >> 73, Charlie k3ICH >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of James Bennett via Elecraft >> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:03 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done?? >> >> Just spent an hour reviewing the K3 and P3 manuals to no avail. I?ve had these two pieces of equipment for ten years and you?d think I ought to know exactly how to control them, but it appears that either something inside has gone kaflooy or I?ve screwed up something myself. I suspect the latter? >> >> When I turn on RIT and adjust the RIT knob, the K3 changes frequency and displays it correctly on the LCD. However, what happens on the P3 is the opposite! Turning the RIT knob clockwise increases the K3 frequency and display, but the red line on the P3 moves to the LEFT, not the right as it should. The P3 frequency display increases as it should, but the red line goes the opposite direction. The XIT function works as it should. >> >> Any hints? This has me stumped! >> >> Tnx, Jim . W6JHB >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Sat Aug 29 17:57:04 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 14:57:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> References: <000a01d67b48$0df637b0$29e2a710$@com> <0c5501d67c91$3713b970$a53b2c50$@LNAINC.com> <282b6374-1dbe-bcc9-d95c-0547656d9c32@gmail.com> <0d2401d67cb2$859c1530$90d43f90$@LNAINC.com> <5a3ab1ac-2c21-d7eb-c1f9-2ddbb699ff0e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0f2201d67d40$ed87d790$c89786b0$@LNAINC.com> <414eba7f-a994-9f27-9b69-de46c0235494@gmail.com> <17C59FB6-D92B-46CD-8E66-15876F4369AE@me.com> Message-ID: <7d7fdc8a-6d7c-3a68-be93-754942cd4391@foothill.net> Several bags of salt in the pool should do it. [:=) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/28/2020 4:58 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote: > With a large patio and an in-ground pool, there is absolutely no place for conventional 160 meter radials.I came across the FCP several years ago. From k6dgw at foothill.net Sat Aug 29 18:03:31 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:03:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: References: <431a87f8-806f-833e-461f-8248d143f79b@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <26d737f2-17cc-0231-7659-0cb1c96fd3aa@foothill.net> Actually, not so much for me.? I have monochrome vision and sites with a lot of "color coding" aren't great.? YMMV 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/29/2020 2:21 PM, W2xj wrote: > Here?s a readable website > > https://k2av.com/ > > From ab7echo at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 18:06:27 2020 From: ab7echo at gmail.com (David Gilbert) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:06:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> References: <5265ed84-ce30-96ba-d487-17834b3ac8bc@audiosystemsgroup.com> <42BF6F2F-D088-4311-86AA-749A3E3ADF14@w2xj.net> Message-ID: <2a26a2c6-8671-c842-6b4e-e48ce1ab6705@gmail.com> I did a search on your callsign.? I couldn't find a single publicly attributed contribution you've ever made to the hobby, and yet you have the gall to post a snide and ignorant comment like that. Dave?? AB7E On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote: > page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 years. You need to work more on webpage layout. > > Sent from my iPad > From k6dgw at foothill.net Sat Aug 29 18:20:41 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:20:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <015101d67daf$554fa4c0$ffeeee40$@ka7ftp.com> References: <97f30637-250e-e959-c342-f14f8f283910@kanafi.org> <5f49abfa.1c69fb81.d6552.4098@mx.google.com> <19e0c6b5-d15b-761e-81f9-88637b1b0815@foothill.net> <015101d67daf$554fa4c0$ffeeee40$@ka7ftp.com> Message-ID: And Len, there is a real society for exactly what you point out ... The Duodecimal Society of America [www.dozenal.org] that promotes changing the base of our number system to twelve for exactly the same reason.? Not quite the same as the Flat Earth Society, but equally unlikely to make much headway. I can think of several reasons why an invasion by our northern neighbors would be a positive and desirable occurrence. [;=) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/28/2020 7:51 PM, len at ka7ftp.com wrote: > Actually... not so "stupid" if you are in the building trades. 12 has more factors than 10, which makes is a LOT more convenient when breaking it into divisible segments. > > Also... it keeps us safe from the Canadians invading. Everytime they've tried they fall short of their destination. > > ;) > From k6dgw at foothill.net Sat Aug 29 18:33:02 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:33:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <08836078-955c-4246-a081-c04742ab78a3@foothill.net> The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of green-bar].? "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for everything else." 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County PS:? I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all the chad from those cards? On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > >> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set >> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page. > The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974 > (*). It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the > Sidewalk Act that predates it. The main reason that we see it at all in > the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want > to have two different production lines, > > From W2xj at w2xj.net Sat Aug 29 18:38:48 2020 From: W2xj at w2xj.net (W2xj) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 18:38:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters In-Reply-To: <2a26a2c6-8671-c842-6b4e-e48ce1ab6705@gmail.com> References: <2a26a2c6-8671-c842-6b4e-e48ce1ab6705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34CB6F06-6595-483B-9FD5-BFFA52D9EF7F@w2xj.net> Nice website. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:08 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > ? > I did a search on your callsign. I couldn't find a single publicly attributed contribution you've ever made to the hobby, and yet you have the gall to post a snide and ignorant comment like that. > > Dave AB7E > > >> On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote: >> page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven?t used a PC for 15 years. You need to work more on webpage layout. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w2xj at w2xj.net From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sat Aug 29 19:25:28 2020 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <08836078-955c-4246-a081-c04742ab78a3@foothill.net> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> <08836078-955c-4246-a081-c04742ab78a3@foothill.net> Message-ID: Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII. I remember punch cards fondly.? At Hughes I took a company-sponsored Fortran IV course.? I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.? We would do our coding, punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would come in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.? I wound up dating one of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero. Wes? N7WS On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and > Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of > green-bar].? "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for > everything else." > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > PS:? I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all the > chad from those cards? > > On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote: >> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: >> >>> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set >>> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page. >> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974 >> (*).? It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the >> Sidewalk Act that predates it.? The main reason that we see it at all in >> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want >> to have two different production lines, From rich at wc3t.us Sat Aug 29 20:02:35 2020 From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:02:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> <08836078-955c-4246-a081-c04742ab78a3@foothill.net> Message-ID: I?m going to request as a non-moderator that we draw a curtain of mercy across this thread. Between this and the endless musing on K4 availability/ship dates/etc., my Delete key is getting worn out... On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 19:25 Wes wrote: > Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII. > > > > I remember punch cards fondly. At Hughes I took a company-sponsored > Fortran IV > > course. I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA. We would do our > coding, > > punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would > come > > in the next morning to find out how many typos we made. I wound up dating > one > > of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero. > > > > Wes N7WS > > > > > > On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > > The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet > and > > > Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes > of > > > green-bar]. "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for > > > everything else." > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > > > Sparks NV DM09dn > > > Washoe County > > > > > > PS: I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with > all the > > > chad from those cards? > > > > > > On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > > >> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: > > >> > > >>> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set > > >>> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page. > > >> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974 > > >> (*). It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the > > >> Sidewalk Act that predates it. The main reason that we see it at all in > > >> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want > > >> to have two different production lines, > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* From radioham at mchsi.com Sat Aug 29 20:53:39 2020 From: radioham at mchsi.com (David Christ) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:53:39 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> <08836078-955c-4246-a081-c04742ab78a3@foothill.net> Message-ID: <6858356B-7722-4FFC-99D9-5CEB39A1D049@mchsi.com> We are way off topic but as long as we are there I pass this on. All you old timers know about this. The question is: How do you bury a programmer? For you youngsters the answer is : Face down 9 edge first David K0LUM First started programming in 1960 > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Wes wrote: > > Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII. > > I remember punch cards fondly. At Hughes I took a company-sponsored Fortran IV course. I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA. We would do our coding, punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would come in the next morning to find out how many typos we made. I wound up dating one of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero. > > Wes N7WS > > > On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >> The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of green-bar]. "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for everything else." >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> >> PS: I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all the chad from those cards? >> >> On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote: >>> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: >>> >>>> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set >>>> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page. >>> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974 >>> (*). It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the >>> Sidewalk Act that predates it. The main reason that we see it at all in >>> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want >>> to have two different production lines, > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radioham at mchsi.com From john at kk9a.com Sat Aug 29 21:38:49 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 21:38:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size Message-ID: <000c01d67e6e$4f51c6b0$edf55410$@com> Well you had 20+ responses to your question however to my knowledge not one answer. Since it's a metric thread it is quite easy to measure the diameter in millimeters using a caliper (round up to the nearest size) and then measure the distance between threads for the thread pitch. e.g. M6 x 1 John KK9A Mooneer K6AQ wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into it. Thanks, -Mooneer K6AQ From john at kk9a.com Sat Aug 29 21:40:31 2020 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 21:40:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters Message-ID: <000d01d67e6e$8c7309a0$a5591ce0$@com> Or hold and spin the mouse wheel to zoom however I do not recall having to do that on any of your articles that I read. I certainly would not complain about having free access to all of that information. John KK9A Jim Brown K9YC wrote: On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote: > Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts. Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom in or out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the first complaint. 73, Jim K9YC From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 30 01:13:36 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 01:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <000c01d67e6e$4f51c6b0$edf55410$@com> References: <000c01d67e6e$4f51c6b0$edf55410$@com> Message-ID: There were several answers, many were just wrong (1/4-20. Or likely). But the absolute best answer was from Wayne of Elecraft who is sending out an envelope with a nut. So who cares what size it is? I think it might be 6X.75 (mm). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:41 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > > ?Well you had 20+ responses to your question however to my knowledge not one > answer. Since it's a metric thread it is quite easy to measure the diameter > in millimeters using a caliper (round up to the nearest size) and then > measure the distance between threads for the thread pitch. e.g. M6 x 1 > > John KK9A > > > Mooneer K6AQ wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3? > (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure > 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into > it. > > Thanks, > > -Mooneer K6AQ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From kevinr at coho.net Sun Aug 30 01:27:22 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 22:27:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <33e981d3-1d8d-0e6c-ca09-a84b13ccbff7@coho.net> Good Evening, ?? It has been dropping into the 40s each night this week.? I almost started a fire in the woodstove. But, by noon it was back to 70 again.? I collected a lot of dry, bucked up wood and got my exercise.? Ten more truck loads and I'll be started.? While I was complaining to the jays I must have used my hands too actively.? I saw three sets of ears flick in my direction.? About a hundred yards away, through the thinned fir trees, I saw a doe, then a yearling, followed by this year's fawn.? They weren't moving too fast but they were looking at me.? So were the jays. ?? I reviewed a few of my college texts this week: "Fundamentals of Applied Electromagnetics" by F. T. Ulaby and "Antenna Theory - Analysis and Design" by C. Balanis.? All my book marks and penciled in notes sped things up a bit.? Now I need to spruce up the code I wrote around three of the antennas I modeled.? My code gave me radiation patterns for training neural nets for 1/2 wave dipoles, 1/4 wave monopoles, and full wave loop antennas.? It will be fun to add transparency and shading while I map them as 3D objects in space.? I need to revamp the sliders controlling height above ground and orientation.? They were a kluge when I created them, but worked well enough to create data sets to train my adaptive ARTmap neural nets.? Ulaby's book is a great primer on fields and waves.? Chapter 9 introduces antenna analysis for a 1/2 wave dipole. Please join us on (or near): 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) ?7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday) ?? 73, ????? Kevin. KD5ONS _ There is no spoon From k4wj.john at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 08:53:05 2020 From: k4wj.john at gmail.com (John Bohnovic) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:53:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info In-Reply-To: References: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <79ccbb01-4459-b4dc-a10f-acf2592b4f83@gmail.com> I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I want them in separate folders. I support having a separate K4 group. 73..de John/K4WJ On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: > I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not > consider any of it as tying up this one. > > Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line) > > On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote: >> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a >> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4wj.john at gmail.com From pa0pje at xs4all.nl Sun Aug 30 10:21:43 2020 From: pa0pje at xs4all.nl (Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:21:43 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <79ccbb01-4459-b4dc-a10f-acf2592b4f83@gmail.com> References: <69D4C6CA-0815-4686-ACB3-3A423488D3D5@widomaker.com> <79ccbb01-4459-b4dc-a10f-acf2592b4f83@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> >> I support having a separate K4 group. I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft. The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about. Many users of the K3 for example, probably the most used gear, think: "If I ask something about a setting of something everyone should know I'm talking about my K3", so they end up in the main folder and I have a hard time to get rid of these messages... Messages from users of the digest that do not change the subject line: Those messages are filtered straight to the trash... When I close Tunderbird the trash is emptied automaically. If only we could stick to the RULE that one starts an item with the type of gear I would be very happy because the filter can take good care of this. Please use the reflector and do not divert to yahoo/google/groups.io etc. Share information at one place, do not split it up. 73, Peter - PA0PJE Op 30-08-2020 om 14:53 schreef John Bohnovic: > I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from > the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I > want them in separate folders. > > I support having a separate K4 group. > > 73..de John/K4WJ > > On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: >> I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not >> consider any of it as tying up this one. >> >> Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line) >> >> On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote: >>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a >>> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k4wj.john at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pa0pje at xs4all.nl > From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 30 10:39:51 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:39:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> References: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote: > > ? >> >>> I support having a separate K4 group. > > I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft. > > The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about. > > Many users of the K3 for example, probably the most used gear, think: "If I ask something about a setting of something everyone should know I'm talking about my K3", so they end up in the main folder and I have a hard time to get rid of these messages... > > Messages from users of the digest that do not change the subject line: > Those messages are filtered straight to the trash... When I close Tunderbird the trash is emptied automaically. > > If only we could stick to the RULE that one starts an item with the type of gear I would be very happy because the filter can take good care of this. > > Please use the reflector and do not divert to yahoo/google/groups.io etc. Share information at one place, do not split it up. > > 73, > Peter - PA0PJE > > > > > Op 30-08-2020 om 14:53 schreef John Bohnovic: >> I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from >> the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I >> want them in separate folders. >> I support having a separate K4 group. >> 73..de John/K4WJ >>> On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: >>> I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not >>> consider any of it as tying up this one. >>> >>> Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line) >>> >>> On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote: >>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >>>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >>>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a >>>> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> ...nr4c. bill >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k4wj.john at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to pa0pje at xs4all.nl > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 11:03:55 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:03:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> References: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <806C8CE3-EDED-4F51-ABED-FAFABF1B9F1A@gmail.com> I think a comment I made started this discussion. I don?t have any problem with anyone setting up a group for anything they want. If K4 users want a distinct group, that?s fine. I?m a subscriber, too. What happens more often than not, though, is that everything gets cross-posted anyway. And the replies get cross-posted, and so on. So thinking that you won?t see posts that don?t interest you on the main reflector because there happens to be a single-product group is a bit parochial. And not everyone with an interest, or who might know something, is going to be a subscriber to the K4 group, or vice-versa. I do agree that I expect my delete key to be very active while everyone is bragging about THEIR K4 being shipped, and the unboxing videos, and the ?first reaction? posts, and the issues people find, especially those related to the inevitable failures to RTFM, and all of that. Anyone who?s been hanging around any new product-related reflector knows what to expect, such as long OT threads about 160M antennas, etc :-) All of it is interesting. The delete key (or its filter equivalent) can take care of what isn?t. I?ve personally learned a lot from what seems to be OT posts, or posts about radios I don?t own, both here and on other lists/groups. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Nr4c wrote: > > The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote: >> >> ? >>> >>>> I support having a separate K4 group. >> >> I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft. >> >> The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about. >> From tom at w7sua.org Sun Aug 30 11:32:46 2020 From: tom at w7sua.org (Tom Azlin W7SUA) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> References: <5D9CED78-8719-4480-A117-380C56E70FD2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <93be8b4f-abf6-2ec7-6366-c16eed6b8cd7@w7sua.org> Hi Wayne, I enjoyed the K4 presentation and the Q&A that followed. This on-line Ham Expo was a very good idea, especially in this time if travel limits. I still look forward to seeing the K4 in person before finalizing my group 2 purchase. Thanks for the opportunity to comment. 73, tom w7sua Chino Valley AZ On 8/21/2020 4:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall. > > It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole. > > This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.) > > Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tom at w7sua.org > From tom at w7sua.org Sun Aug 30 11:35:30 2020 From: tom at w7sua.org (Tom Azlin W7SUA) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:35:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Eric, I missed the 3D modeling on the KX2 presentation and perhaps lost the bubble on watching it. So being able to watch that presentation via Elecraft would be good. Thanks and 73, tom w7sua On 8/22/2020 1:47 PM, Eric Swartz wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > We?re waiting for the recording K4 Q&A video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page. > > I?ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q&A sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth. > > 73, > Eric > elecraft.com > _..._ > > > >> On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Adrian wrote: >> >> ?I add to request for the K4 Q&A video if available please ? >> >> The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would love to see the Q&A ? >> >> >> Thankyou >> >> Adrian Fewster >> >> >> >>> On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote: >>> I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn?t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events. >>> >>> It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-) >>> >>> Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric?s appearances? all three of the them ? on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric?s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them. >>> >>> I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues. >>> >>> I?m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I?m looking forward to my K4 :-) >>> >>> Grant NQ5T >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tom at w7sua.org > From tom at w7sua.org Sun Aug 30 11:36:17 2020 From: tom at w7sua.org (Tom Azlin W7SUA) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 08:36:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5b51ec72-4653-064e-cf24-8c797dabfce0@w7sua.org> That is a very good idea Rick. On 8/22/2020 4:29 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: > If prizes are offered, just make it "They showed up here (each vendor), > so they're entered into a random drawing", just like any other hamfest. > Appearance equates to one (only) 'ticket'. > > 73, > Rick NK7I From ghyoungman at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 11:40:33 2020 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:40:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants In-Reply-To: References: <59e9da6f-d940-0b3d-8cc8-ac0a70b245ca@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32404F29-83B8-4FB1-8923-1375FD16007B@gmail.com> That specific video is available on the Elecraft YouTube channel ?. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 30, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > I missed the 3D modeling on the KX2 presentation and perhaps lost the bubble on watching it. So being able to watch that presentation via Elecraft would be good. > > Thanks and 73, tom w7sua > From k9ztv at socket.net Sun Aug 30 12:20:51 2020 From: k9ztv at socket.net (KENT TRIMBLE) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:20:51 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> References: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <0509ea8f-b359-2d9b-f286-a7902293e659@socket.net> The majority of readers of this list own multiple Elecraft products and therefore do have interests in many kinds of posts.? Having them addressed on the official Elecraft site is both important and convenient for me. A K4 is not in my plans today but I've been known to change my plans.? Like Bill, I get tired of deleting petty "when-is-it-going-to-ship" posts, but that will eventually die down just as it did for the the K3 after it was unveiled at Visalia in April of 2007 but didn't ship until October.? It had been rumored far earlier. There is nothing wrong with my K2, K3, KPA500, KX3, KX2, W2, T1, XG3, BL2, or AX1/E.? But every once in a while a post on one of them will capture my interest.? I delete the rest. As long as posters abide by the long-standing protocol of putting the model in the subject line (preferably at the beginning), it is easy to delete both single and multiple product posts with a mere mouse click. I look forward to reading future posts by K4 owners after they actually own one. 73, Kent? K9ZTV On 8/30/2020 9:39 AM, Nr4c wrote: > The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From jboehner01 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 12:28:41 2020 From: jboehner01 at yahoo.com (James F. Boehner MD) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:28:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Separate Elecraft K3 and K4 Reflectors on Groups.IO References: <010901d67eea$a00864c0$e0192e40$.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010901d67eea$a00864c0$e0192e40$@yahoo.com> To all, This thread could go on forever. Some want a separate group, some do not. The fact is it is up to the individual as to whether they want to participate in a separate group, the main group (this one) or both. The good part is that when Wayne and/or Eric have a special announcement, they do make an effort to post on the Groups.IO reflectors. I believe they monitor the separate groups (Elecraft-K3 at Groups.IO and Elecraft-K4 at Groups.IO , but I do not have confirmation on that. The bad part is if you just participate in the separate group, you may miss something. If you participate in the main group, there are voluminous e-mails that do not deal with your radio that you have to go through and delete. I have moderated the Elecraft-K3 list for over 10 years, and just signed on to moderate the Elecraft-K4 list. They do serve a purpose, and all are welcome to join. The lists are there, and should you wish to participate, you are certainly welcome to do so. The traffic on those lists will not be as voluminous as this reflector, so joining both shouldn't max out your e-mail box. '73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:22 AM To: John Bohnovic; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info >> I support having a separate K4 group. I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft. The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about. Many users of the K3 for example, probably the most used gear, think: "If I ask something about a setting of something everyone should know I'm talking about my K3", so they end up in the main folder and I have a hard time to get rid of these messages... Messages from users of the digest that do not change the subject line: Those messages are filtered straight to the trash... When I close Tunderbird the trash is emptied automaically. If only we could stick to the RULE that one starts an item with the type of gear I would be very happy because the filter can take good care of this. Please use the reflector and do not divert to yahoo/google/groups.io etc. Share information at one place, do not split it up. 73, Peter - PA0PJE Op 30-08-2020 om 14:53 schreef John Bohnovic: > I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from > the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I > want them in separate folders. > > I support having a separate K4 group. > > 73..de John/K4WJ > > On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: >> I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not >> consider any of it as tying up this one. >> >> Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line) >> >> On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote: >>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the >>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the >>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a >>> lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k4wj.john at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pa0pje at xs4all.nl > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jboehner01 at yahoo.com From k5wa at comcast.net Sun Aug 30 12:32:02 2020 From: k5wa at comcast.net (K5WA) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:32:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: PR6 Preamp Message-ID: <23a501d67eeb$1942c970$4bc85c50$@comcast.net> Excess to my needs is an Elecraft PR6 Preamp with BNC adapters to mount directly on a K3. It is basically unused since I believe I only plugged it in when I first bought it just to see how it worked. I've got some decent HF antennas so I never felt like I needed it and I don't get on 6M. It's yours for $70 including USPS shipment to the lower 48. Contact me off the list. Bob K5WA Houston, Texas From g3wie at crystalhobs.org.uk Sun Aug 30 13:07:38 2020 From: g3wie at crystalhobs.org.uk (G3WIE) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:07:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Spurious emission in SSB Message-ID: <1598807258219-0.post@n2.nabble.com> I built K2 s/n 253 many years ago, and it's been updated with the A-B kit and all other Elecraft updates. It currently has the KSB2, noise blanker and 160m/2nd Rx options. The ATU is not currently fitted to make access easier, though it has been. I'm planning to use the K2 with transverters on 28MHz for the microwave bands. Now that the Elecraft transverter interface is obsolete I plan to use the radio with ~1W output and fit attenuators as required. Looking at the Tx output on my spectrum analyser, I see a spurious tone 900kHz below the tx frequency which is only about 35dB less than the SSB peak output at 1W; that frequency difference does not change with dial frequency. The tone does not change amplitude with power setting over the full range, with speech amplitude, nor with the carrier balance adjustment. It's also present on 21MHz with the same interval. It is not present in Tune in SSB mode, or in CW mode at all. I'd be grateful for ideas on where to start looking to find the source of this as I can't reasonably use the K2 in this state.. 73 Chris G3WIE -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun Aug 30 13:59:48 2020 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:59:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <806C8CE3-EDED-4F51-ABED-FAFABF1B9F1A@gmail.com> References: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> <806C8CE3-EDED-4F51-ABED-FAFABF1B9F1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <98906FF9-4280-42E3-B046-B464E012534B@elecraft.com> We've been down this road before, multiple times. In the end we've always chosen not to split the forum, which I believe was the right decision. For those looking for a more narrow topic space, there are presently 13 Elecraft-related groups.io forums: https://groups.io/search?q=elecraft One of these is elecraft-k4 at groups.io, which has over 500 members. 73, Wayne N6KR From elanzl at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 30 16:21:29 2020 From: elanzl at sbcglobal.net (Eric Lanzl) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] SSB Net 8-30-2020 References: <1067241109.435949.1598818889484.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1067241109.435949.1598818889484@mail.yahoo.com> Here is the log for the SSB net today 8-30-2020. Thank you to all the relay stations. Thanks to all who checked in to the net. Eric WB9JNZ Elecraft SSB Nets 20 m net 1800Z 14.303.5 Sundays 40 m net 1900Z?? 7.280??? Sundays 80 m net 0100Z??? 3.942?? Sundays Call??????????? Name??? State????? Radio?????? Serial # QRP Notes???????????? ???? ????????????????? ????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????? ???????????? ???????? ?????????????????????? ???? WB9JNZ??? Eric?????? IL?????????? K3??????????? 4017???? ???????? Net Control ? ? ? ? ? ? 1?? ? KO5V????? ? Jim??????? NM??????? K2/100???? 7225???? ???????? ???????????????????????????? ? 2?? NC0JW????? Jim??????? CO???????? KX3???????? 1356???? ???????? Relay Station???????? ? 3?? WM6P?????? Steve???? GA???????? K3S????????? 11453?? ??????? Relay Station ? ? ? ? ? 4?? K8NU/7????? Carl?????? OH/WA Yaesu FT 2000???? ??????? ?? Relay Station ? ? ? ? ? 5?? N9CPD??? ? Chuck??? IL?????????? Yeasu FT 991?????? ???????? ???????????????????????????? ? 6?? AE6JV??? ?? Bill??????? NH???????? K3??????????? 6299???? ???????? ??????????????????????????? ?? 7?? N6JW??????? John????? CA???????? K3??????????? 936?????? ??????? ? Relay Station??????? ? 8?? W7QHD???? Kurt???? ? AZ???????? K2/100???? 1538???? ???????? ???????????????????????????? ?? 9?? KS6F???????? Guy ????? CA???????? K3S????????? 10650?? ???????? ???????????????????????????? 10 K6WDE?? ?? David?? ? CA???????? KX3???????? 4599???? ???????? ?????????????????????????????? 11 NS7P??????? ? Phil????? OR???????? K3??????????? 1826???? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 12 WA6USA ?? Tom????? CA???????? K3??????????? ???????????? ??????????? ?????????????????????????? 13 K6FW???? ? ? Frank??? CA???????? K3S????????? 11672?? ???????? ?????????????????????????????? 14 KS7D????? ? ? Mike???? FL????????? K3??????????? 118?????? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 15 WW4JF??? ? John????? TN???????? K3S????????? 11177?? ???????? ??????????????????????????? ?? 16 W4DML?? ? ? Doug???? TN???????? K3??????????? 6433???? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 17 K7JG??????? ? John????? WA??????? KX3???????? 3519???? ???????? ?????????????????????????????? 18 AB7CE?????? Roy?????? MT???????? K2/100???? 40???????? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 19 KB9AVO ?? Paul?????? IN????????? K3S????????? 11103?? ???????? ???????????????????????????? ? 20 N0MPM?? ? Mike??? ?? IA????????? K3S????????? 10514?? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 21 K7BRR?? ? ? Bill??????? OR???????? Icom ??????? 7000???? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 22 K6VWE?? ?? Stan????? MI????????? K3??????????? 650?????? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 23 N7YW??? ? ? Ken?????? AZ???????? K3??????????? 8183???? ???????? ??????????????????????????? ?? 24 KA6MOK??? John????? CA???????? K2/10?????? 1251???? ???????? ?????????????????????????????? 25 K4HYJ???? ?? Hank??? ? GA???????? K3S????????? 11697?? ???????? ???????????????????????????? 26 K6PTX???? ?? Richard ? CA???????? KX3???????? 728?????? ???????? ????????????????????????????? 27 From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Aug 30 17:23:29 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:23:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <806C8CE3-EDED-4F51-ABED-FAFABF1B9F1A@gmail.com> References: <806C8CE3-EDED-4F51-ABED-FAFABF1B9F1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10766DA6-B6D2-40C8-BD5D-E97DDF028121@widomaker.com> Grant. No one is creating a group. It has existed since last October or November. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 30, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > ?I think a comment I made started this discussion. > > I don?t have any problem with anyone setting up a group for anything they want. If K4 users want a distinct group, that?s fine. I?m a subscriber, too. > > What happens more often than not, though, is that everything gets cross-posted anyway. And the replies get cross-posted, and so on. So thinking that you won?t see posts that don?t interest you on the main reflector because there happens to be a single-product group is a bit parochial. And not everyone with an interest, or who might know something, is going to be a subscriber to the K4 group, or vice-versa. I do agree that I expect my delete key to be very active while everyone is bragging about THEIR K4 being shipped, and the unboxing videos, and the ?first reaction? posts, and the issues people find, especially those related to the inevitable failures to RTFM, and all of that. Anyone who?s been hanging around any new product-related reflector knows what to expect, such as long OT threads about 160M antennas, etc :-) > > All of it is interesting. The delete key (or its filter equivalent) can take care of what isn?t. I?ve personally learned a lot from what seems to be OT posts, or posts about radios I don?t own, both here and on other lists/groups. > > Grant NQ5T > > > >> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Nr4c wrote: >> >> The majority of readers of this list are not waiting for a K4 and therefore have little interest in a lot of traffic related to K4 shipping/deliveries. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote: >>> >>> ? >>>> >>>>> I support having a separate K4 group. >>> >>> I don't. I filter each Elecraft gear item in separate subfolders under a main folder called Elecraft. >>> >>> The real problem with this is the shear lack of users of this list to mention the type of Elecraft gear they want to talk about. >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.q From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 17:45:53 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:45:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Last Weeks 80 Meter Net at 01:00 UTC on 3.942 Message-ID: Elecraft SSB Nets 20 m net 1800Z 14.303.5 Sundays 40 m net 1900Z 7.280 Sundays 80 m net 0100Z 3.942 Sundays ----------------------------------------------------- For Sunday 8/23/2020 01:00UTC 3.942 KB9AVO Paul Net Control K8NU Carl WB9JNZ Eric WM6P Steve KB8RXG Lewis WY3T Tim KG9NG Sam N8TTR Mike Hope to see you at 01:00 UTC on 3.942 KB9AVO From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 30 18:04:16 2020 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:04:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Spurious emission in SSB In-Reply-To: <1598807258219-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1598807258219-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4260a7ec-64fa-933f-91f3-f84390db1ce2@embarqmail.com> Chris, I suspect that artifact is being introduced by the Speech Processor on the KSB2 board. Do you know any locals who have a K2? The quickest way to verify my suspicion is to swap out the KSB2 board. BTW - TUNE switches to CW even if in SSB mode. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/30/2020 1:07 PM, G3WIE wrote: > I built K2 s/n 253 many years ago, and it's been updated with the A-B kit and > all other Elecraft updates. It currently has the KSB2, noise blanker and > 160m/2nd Rx options. The ATU is not currently fitted to make access easier, > though it has been. > > I'm planning to use the K2 with transverters on 28MHz for the microwave > bands. Now that the Elecraft transverter interface is obsolete I plan to use > the radio with ~1W output and fit attenuators as required. > > Looking at the Tx output on my spectrum analyser, I see a spurious tone > 900kHz below the tx frequency which is only about 35dB less than the SSB > peak output at 1W; that frequency difference does not change with dial > frequency. The tone does not change amplitude with power setting over the > full range, with speech amplitude, nor with the carrier balance adjustment. > It's also present on 21MHz with the same interval. It is not present in > Tune in SSB mode, or in CW mode at all. > From ehr at qrv.com Sun Aug 30 19:11:12 2020 From: ehr at qrv.com (E.H. Russell) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 19:11:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 info In-Reply-To: <98906FF9-4280-42E3-B046-B464E012534B@elecraft.com> References: <8d0393a1-8611-6fbb-bac6-16edc0b1687e@xs4all.nl> <7298E909-DEF6-4635-B2A9-F54172F60522@widomaker.com> <806C8CE3-EDED-4F51-ABED-FAFABF1B9F1A@gmail.com> <98906FF9-4280-42E3-B046-B464E012534B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <005001d67f22$db08f020$911ad060$@qrv.com> I'm relatively new here and really appreciate the flow of information on a single reflector. It is easy to be selective according to the subject line, and I often encounter interesting information about gear I'm not familiar with. ED / W2RF -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:00 PM To: Grant Youngman Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 info We've been down this road before, multiple times. In the end we've always chosen not to split the forum, which I believe was the right decision. For those looking for a more narrow topic space, there are presently 13 Elecraft-related groups.io forums: https://groups.io/search?q=elecraft One of these is elecraft-k4 at groups.io, which has over 500 members. 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ehr at qrv.com From FlatHat at comcast.net Sun Aug 30 23:22:39 2020 From: FlatHat at comcast.net (Richard) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Mac vs WSJT-X Message-ID: WSJT-X 2.1.2 Mac mini running OS 10.12.6 Sierra K3s connected via SignaLink ? don?t want to change that All of the above are playing well together; no problems. What I?d like is to add a USB connection between the Mac and the K3s that will cause my radio band changes to be reflected in the little black frequency box on WSJT-X. I?m aware that there?s more to achieving that than simply connecting them with a USB cable. What else do I need to do to make this happen? Cheers! Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Aug 30 23:31:32 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:31:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Mac vs WSJT-X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How do you have your CAT control set up? You can use the USB built in to the K3S to set up CAT control. (With a K3, you can use the USB <--> RS232 cable that came with the K3 or is available from Elecraft.) With CAT control, the wsjt-x will correctly display the frequency the K3S is tuned to. Using the frequency widget in wsjt-x, you can change to other frequencies and bands and the K3S will automatically follow. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/30/20 at 11:22 PM, FlatHat at comcast.net (Richard) wrote: >Mac mini running OS 10.12.6 Sierra >K3s connected via SignaLink ? don?t want to change that > >All of the above are playing well together; no problems. > >What I?d like is to add a USB connection between the Mac and >the K3s that will cause my radio band changes to be reflected >in the little black frequency box on WSJT-X. > >I?m aware that there?s more to achieving that than simply connecting them with a USB cable. > >What else do I need to do to make this happen? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle (408)348-7900 |is there are so many to choose| 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tanenbaum | Peterborough, NH 03458 From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Aug 30 23:39:47 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Mac vs WSJT-X Message-ID: [Resending to actually try to answer the question.] You can use the USB built in to the K3S to set up CAT control. (With a K3, you can use the USB <--> RS232 cable that came with the K3 or is available from Elecraft.) You set up your CAT control in the Preferences->Settings->Radio? Mine shows the serial port "/dev/cu.usbserial-", Baud Rate 38400, Data Bits 8, Stop Bits 1, Handshake None, PTT Method CAT, Split Operation Rig. Note: The above is the serial number built in to the USB<-->RS232 chip in the radio or the cable. It keeps wsjt-x using the correct adapter even if you move the adapter between USB hubs etc. With CAT control, the wsjt-x will correctly display the frequency the K3S is tuned to. Using the frequency widget in wsjt-x, you can change to other frequencies and bands and the K3S will automatically follow. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/30/20 at 11:22 PM, FlatHat at comcast.net (Richard) wrote: >Mac mini running OS 10.12.6 Sierra >K3s connected via SignaLink ? don?t want to change that > >All of the above are playing well together; no problems. > >What I?d like is to add a USB connection between the Mac and >the K3s that will cause my radio band changes to be reflected >in the little black frequency box on WSJT-X. > >I?m aware that there?s more to achieving that than simply connecting them with a USB cable. > >What else do I need to do to make this happen? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle (408)348-7900 |is there are so many to choose| 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tanenbaum | Peterborough, NH 03458 From kevinr at coho.net Mon Aug 31 00:11:08 2020 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:11:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report Message-ID: <79d19ae4-9cb0-ab97-c33f-64317f13a652@coho.net> Good Evening, ?? Conditions were fair to OK on both bands.? Slow QSB on everyone on both bands.? There was a storm somewhere on 40 meters.? A steady grumble behind the code.? Everyone described cooler weather.? Even in California, but they're hoping for less smoke.? There are more fires in Oregon, still east of the Cascades.? Drought conditions prevail throughout the Great Basin across to the Great Plains.? Ken in North Dakota had rain and the start of fall.? Dave mentioned rain too.? It has been a few weeks but there have been a couple foggy mornings here.? Those really help the forest keep moist.? Roy had cooler, much less windy weather. ?? At the end of the first net I saw the ferns falling over about thirty feet in front of me.? They would fall over and then drag themselves into a hole.? I never did see the rodent but I am sure of who was doing it.? The local mountain beaver - Aplodontia rufa pacifica.? I just found out there is a subspecies living north of San Fransisco:? A. rufa nigra.? They love to dig burrows into the side-hills, I rarely see them in flatter areas except under piles of slash.? They do move around in the daytime but you never see them.? They LOVE rhododendrons.? Mine rarely have a chance to get very tall, they all get eaten. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_beaver https://web.archive.org/web/20150205002135/http://www.science.smith.edu/msi/pdf/i0076-3519-431-01-0001.pdf ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z: W0CZ - Ken - ND NO8V - John - MI K6XK - Roy - IA K4TO - Dave - KY W8RBF - Allen - MI ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0045z: W0CZ - Ken - ND K4TO - Dave - KY K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6PJV - Dale - CA I've got "Run Silent, Run Deep" on pause.? Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. ?? Until next week stay well 73, ?????? Kevin.? KD5ONS - Han shot first From juhakasari at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 01:05:40 2020 From: juhakasari at gmail.com (Juha - oh6os) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 22:05:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 Message-ID: <1598850340755-0.post@n2.nabble.com> For sale: K3 with well options (list below). Radio is in very good condition. My good friend, he is eletric professional, only built this radio. He worked one qso and sold it me, he was only intereting building elecraft! Serial number 2100 and all modification made. Price is 1590? + shipping or best offer. K3 KPA100 KAT3 KBPF3 KDVR3 KXV3A KIO3 KFL3A-6k KFL3A-2,8k KFL3A-400 K3DSPUPGD AFOPMDKT Juha Kasari, oh6os +358503446873 oh6os at sral.fi -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca Mon Aug 31 08:31:53 2020 From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Spurious emission in SSB References: <706245043.754775.1598877113491.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <706245043.754775.1598877113491@mail.yahoo.com> Chris Is the frequency separation exactly 900 kHz? If a bit more, perhaps the oscillator in the KSB2 MCU (U1/Z1) at (nominally) 4 MHz is coupling into the IF (nominally 4.915 MHz) path on the same board, on the output side of the crystal filter). Problems with grounding, bypass capacitors and long leads might do this. I have a vague recollection that the instructions for early KSB2 board assembly did not involve grounding the filter crystal cases and later instructions did. That shouldn't directly affect that coupling but it might generally help provide a generally more solid ground. There are other 4 MHz oscillators in the K2 that might couple in, too, but since the problem only exists on SSB, it seems this one would be a more likely culprit. Could re-aligning the 10 metre bandpass filter (K2 RF Board) help? Generic ITU Radio Regulations require -43 dB dBc or better spurious levels at 1 watt output, so one hopes it could meet that. Of course if you are running a couple of hundred watts for 23 cm EME, you are required to do better! Of course, you could get 3 dB better signal-to-spurious level just by going up to 2 watts. I use a K2 (with an internally mounted 2 m transverter) in my 10 GHz setup....I suppose I ought to check for that issue, if I can borrow a spectrum analyzer. But then...who would actually hear me, or have a problem with, a mW level signal at 10.3672 GHz and a beamwidth of 3 degrees? 73, Steve VE3SMA From pincon at erols.com Sat Aug 29 09:06:19 2020 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:06:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <002301d67e05$3354f3b0$99fedb10$@erols.com> Metric conversion hints: Just remember, 9mm = .357", 5.56mm = .223", Now, wasn't that easy? Charlie k3ICH From w2kj at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 31 12:33:03 2020 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:33:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 shipping References: <82EE8EFE-D3B5-44E4-A600-40F8CC9F3629.ref@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <82EE8EFE-D3B5-44E4-A600-40F8CC9F3629@bellsouth.net> Howdy Gang. Well, it?s the end of August and I expect the K4 to start shipping tomorrow (grin). We should start a pool on when the shipping date will be?the winner will win a new K4 (right!!!) Here?s hoping all of the K4 buyers will get some good news soon. We can only hope. Take care and stay healthy. CU on the air, CW of course!! 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From c-hawley at illinois.edu Mon Aug 31 13:05:27 2020 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:05:27 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <002301d67e05$3354f3b0$99fedb10$@erols.com> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com>, <002301d67e05$3354f3b0$99fedb10$@erols.com> Message-ID: <0F1C0462-0054-4C06-B82C-7B614DE6683D@illinois.edu> No. 25.4 mm = 1 inch is easy Chuck Jack Hawley KE9UW Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie T wrote: > > ?Metric conversion hints: > > Just remember, 9mm = .357", > 5.56mm = .223", > > Now, wasn't that easy? > > Charlie k3ICH > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu From gordon.lapoint at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 13:28:28 2020 From: gordon.lapoint at gmail.com (Gordon LaPoint) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 13:28:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <0F1C0462-0054-4C06-B82C-7B614DE6683D@illinois.edu> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> <002301d67e05$3354f3b0$99fedb10$@erols.com> <0F1C0462-0054-4C06-B82C-7B614DE6683D@illinois.edu> Message-ID: <9faecfb3-c90a-7022-a76e-6d312794ea0d@gmail.com> Common bullet sizes! On 8/31/2020 13:05 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > No. > 25.4 mm = 1 inch is easy > > Chuck Jack Hawley > KE9UW > > Sent from my iPhone, cjack > >> On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie T wrote: >> >> ?Metric conversion hints: >> >> Just remember, 9mm = .357", >> 5.56mm = .223", >> >> Now, wasn't that easy? >> >> Charlie k3ICH >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com From chrisc at chris.org Mon Aug 31 13:50:29 2020 From: chrisc at chris.org (Chris Cox, N0UK) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:50:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> Message-ID: I wish to interface my KX3 to my portable 10GHz transporter system. I have the transporter?s PTT sequencer configured to output a +ve TX Inhibit signal which I have been using to prevent my current I/F rig from transmitting until all relays have changed over to transmit. The current rig is a Yaesu FT-817. I want to be able to simply switchover the PTT/TXInh cable between the two rigs, so that I can continue using the ?817 as a backup in the event of some problem with the KX3, and so was intending to us the KX3?s ACC2 GPIO TX Inh +ve input just as I do the 817. However, it seems that the KX3 actually has some bias applied that requires to be pulled low to enable the transmitter, rather than looking for removal of the +ve signal. This will mean that I need more than to simple switch over the physical connectors on the umbilical cable. Although not insurmountable, it?s not exactly ideal. Anyone else done this or similar and, if so, what was your solution? 73 Chris Chris Cox, N0UK chrisc at chris.org From chrisc at chris.org Mon Aug 31 13:53:26 2020 From: chrisc at chris.org (Chris Cox, N0UK) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:53:26 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> Message-ID: And why does my Mac ALWAYS rewrite TRANSVERTER as TRANSPORTER?! Chris Cox, N0UK chrisc at chris.org > On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > > I wish to interface my KX3 to my portable 10GHz transporter system. I have the transporter?s PTT sequencer configured to output a +ve TX Inhibit signal which I have been using to prevent my current I/F rig from transmitting until all relays have changed over to transmit. The current rig is a Yaesu FT-817. > > I want to be able to simply switchover the PTT/TXInh cable between the two rigs, so that I can continue using the ?817 as a backup in the event of some problem with the KX3, and so was intending to us the KX3?s ACC2 GPIO TX Inh +ve input just as I do the 817. > > However, it seems that the KX3 actually has some bias applied that requires to be pulled low to enable the transmitter, rather than looking for removal of the +ve signal. This will mean that I need more than to simple switch over the physical connectors on the umbilical cable. Although not insurmountable, it?s not exactly ideal. > > Anyone else done this or similar and, if so, what was your solution? > > 73 Chris > > > Chris Cox, N0UK > chrisc at chris.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to chrisc at chris.org From ardrhi at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 14:17:23 2020 From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:17:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> Message-ID: I hate to break it too you, Chris...but your Mac is...a Trekkie. ;) 73, Gwen, NG3P On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 1:53 PM Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > And why does my Mac ALWAYS rewrite TRANSVERTER as TRANSPORTER?! > > Chris Cox, N0UK > chrisc at chris.org > > > > > On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > > > > I wish to interface my KX3 to my portable 10GHz transporter system. I > have the transporter?s PTT sequencer configured to output a +ve TX Inhibit > signal which I have been using to prevent my current I/F rig from > transmitting until all relays have changed over to transmit. The current > rig is a Yaesu FT-817. > > > > I want to be able to simply switchover the PTT/TXInh cable between the > two rigs, so that I can continue using the ?817 as a backup in the event of > some problem with the KX3, and so was intending to us the KX3?s ACC2 GPIO > TX Inh +ve input just as I do the 817. > > > > However, it seems that the KX3 actually has some bias applied that > requires to be pulled low to enable the transmitter, rather than looking > for removal of the +ve signal. This will mean that I need more than to > simple switch over the physical connectors on the umbilical cable. > Although not insurmountable, it?s not exactly ideal. > > > > Anyone else done this or similar and, if so, what was your solution? > > > > 73 Chris > > > > > > Chris Cox, N0UK > > chrisc at chris.org > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to chrisc at chris.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ardrhi at gmail.com From 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 14:26:14 2020 From: 73.de.ne1ee at gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:26:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> Message-ID: <5f4d40d2.1c69fb81.12839.4760@mx.google.com> If you are using Mac OS X Mail, does it have the feature to add words to its spell checker? I just added a bunch of ham related terms to my editor because it was painting the screen red with all the "misspelled" words. On 2020-08-31 12:53:-0500, Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: >And why does my Mac ALWAYS rewrite TRANSVERTER as TRANSPORTER?! > >Chris Cox, N0UK >chrisc at chris.org From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon Aug 31 14:27:28 2020 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:27:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> Message-ID: Steve Jobs was always about form over function.? Icons had to have rounded corners, they were classier. Clearly, Transporter is a classier word than Transverter. [:=) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/31/2020 11:17 AM, Gwen Patton wrote: > I hate to break it too you, Chris...but your Mac is...a Trekkie. ;) > > 73, > Gwen, NG3P > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 1:53 PM Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > >> And why does my Mac ALWAYS rewrite TRANSVERTER as TRANSPORTER?! >> >> Chris Cox, N0UK >> chrisc at chris.org >> From chrisc at chris.org Mon Aug 31 14:42:36 2020 From: chrisc at chris.org (Chris Cox, N0UK) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 13:42:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: <1427062530.823961.1598898682159@mail.yahoo.com> References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> <1427062530.823961.1598898682159@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2A66E7D9-101A-41E4-B415-ECF41D3F351C@chris.org> Thanks all - hopefully it now knows what a transverter is. Chris Cox, N0UK chrisc at chris.org > On Aug 31, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Raymond Sills wrote: > > HI Chris: > > You have to "teach" the dictionary to understand that transverter is a real word. For whatever reason, I must have done that at some time, since I can have transporter and transverter in the same sentence with this iMac. > > But we knew what you meant, even if the Mac didn't. :) > > 73 de Ray > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Cox, N0UK > To: Elecraft-KX at groups.io; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 1:53 pm > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO > > And why does my Mac ALWAYS rewrite TRANSVERTER as TRANSPORTER?! > > Chris Cox, N0UK > chrisc at chris.org > > > > > On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > > > > I wish to interface my KX3 to my portable 10GHz transporter system. I have the transporter?s PTT sequencer configured to output a +ve TX Inhibit signal which I have been using to prevent my current I/F rig from transmitting until all relays have changed over to transmit. The current rig is a Yaesu FT-817. > > > > I want to be able to simply switchover the PTT/TXInh cable between the two rigs, so that I can continue using the ?817 as a backup in the event of some problem with the KX3, and so was intending to us the KX3?s ACC2 GPIO TX Inh +ve input just as I do the 817. > > > > However, it seems that the KX3 actually has some bias applied that requires to be pulled low to enable the transmitter, rather than looking for removal of the +ve signal. This will mean that I need more than to simple switch over the physical connectors on the umbilical cable. Although not insurmountable, it?s not exactly ideal. > > > > Anyone else done this or similar and, if so, what was your solution? > > > > 73 Chris > > > > > > Chris Cox, N0UK > > chrisc at chris.org > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to chrisc at chris.org > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to raysills3 at verizon.net From ai4ns.mike at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 14:56:09 2020 From: ai4ns.mike at gmail.com (Mike Short) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 13:56:09 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3-10 for sale Message-ID: S/N 5737. Has 2.7, 1.8 8pole, 500Hz filters. KXV3B, and KIO3A This was an unassembled kit. 0 hours operating. $500 OBO. Mike AI4NS From juhakasari at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 15:07:38 2020 From: juhakasari at gmail.com (Juha - oh6os) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:07:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 In-Reply-To: <1598850340755-0.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1598850340755-0.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1598900858030-0.post@n2.nabble.com> juhakasari at gmail.com or oh6os at sral.fi -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ From ai4ns.mike at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 15:22:21 2020 From: ai4ns.mike at gmail.com (Mike Short) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:22:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3-10 for sale sold! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sold On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 13:56 Mike Short wrote: > S/N 5737. Has 2.7, 1.8 8pole, 500Hz filters. KXV3B, and KIO3A > > This was an unassembled kit. 0 hours operating. > > $500 OBO. > > Mike > AI4NS > > > From c-hawley at illinois.edu Mon Aug 31 15:40:25 2020 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 19:40:25 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size In-Reply-To: <9faecfb3-c90a-7022-a76e-6d312794ea0d@gmail.com> References: <5f4a4720.1c69fb81.829a6.8990@mx.google.com> <002301d67e05$3354f3b0$99fedb10$@erols.com> <0F1C0462-0054-4C06-B82C-7B614DE6683D@illinois.edu>, <9faecfb3-c90a-7022-a76e-6d312794ea0d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E33A1B8-C152-4874-9F59-423F30DE4C66@illinois.edu> Ahh...just goes to show I don?t know much about that, what shoots a .223? Jack BMW Motorcycles Chuck KE9UW c-hawley at illinois.edu Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Gordon LaPoint wrote: > > ?Common bullet sizes! > >> On 8/31/2020 13:05 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: >> No. >> 25.4 mm = 1 inch is easy >> >> Chuck Jack Hawley >> KE9UW >> >> Sent from my iPhone, cjack >> >>>> On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie T wrote: >>> >>> ?Metric conversion hints: >>> >>> Just remember, 9mm = .357", >>> 5.56mm = .223", >>> >>> Now, wasn't that easy? >>> >>> Charlie k3ICH >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-hawley at illinois.edu From a.durbin at msn.com Mon Aug 31 16:31:54 2020 From: a.durbin at msn.com (Andy Durbin) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 20:31:54 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Nuts, bores, and unit systems Message-ID: "just goes to show I don?t know much about that, what shoots a .223" I changed the subject so we can spare those readers who actually wonder what size that nut is. They won't be interest in who fired what and what size round was used. I suppose I could regale you all with tales of firing the Vickers, Bren, and Sten on the ranges as a teenager. All were 303 and all designed long before UK went metric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington has an answer to the quoted question. But back to wrenches - My tool box still contains Whitworth, BA, imperial, and metric spanners. Still have the BA taps too and some cycle thread stuff. Who could possibly manage with only two sets of wrenches/spanners? Yes, I used to own and maintain a couple of BSA 650s back when real bikes had a kick starter and sparks came from a magneto. Andy, k3wyc From k9ztv at socket.net Mon Aug 31 16:39:26 2020 From: k9ztv at socket.net (KENT TRIMBLE) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:39:26 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: References: <31455.1598634511119271768@groups.io> Message-ID: <3ed3e6f7-c626-e6f8-c90e-97d663b6a399@socket.net> Because it's a truck. K9ZTV > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 1:53 PM Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > >> And why does my Mac ALWAYS rewrite TRANSVERTER as TRANSPORTER?! >> >> Chris Cox, N0UK >> chrisc at chris.org >> >> >> >> -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From jimfinan at att.net Mon Aug 31 16:44:02 2020 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 16:44:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Nuts, bores, and unit systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI: .223 bullets are specified at .224" in diameter. The measure .224" +/- a few ten-thousants (at least on my Starrett micrometer). Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device ? Original Message ? From: a.durbin at msn.com Sent: August 31, 2020 4:33 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Nuts, bores, and unit systems "just goes to show I don?t know much about that, what shoots a .223" I changed the subject so we can spare those readers who actually wonder what size that nut is.?? They won't be interest in who fired what and what size round was used.?? I suppose I could regale you all with tales of firing the Vickers, Bren, and Sten on the ranges as a teenager.? All were 303 and all designed long before UK went metric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington has an answer to the quoted question. But back to wrenches - My tool box still contains Whitworth, BA, imperial, and metric spanners.? Still have the BA taps too and some cycle thread stuff.?? Who could possibly manage with only two sets of wrenches/spanners?? Yes, I used to own and maintain a couple of BSA 650s back when real bikes had a kick starter and sparks came from a magneto. Andy, k3wyc ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From jimfinan at att.net Mon Aug 31 16:46:34 2020 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 16:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Nuts, bores, and unit systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, forgot my call. Jim Finan AB4AC Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device ? Original Message ? From: jimfinan at att.net Sent: August 31, 2020 4:44 PM To: a.durbin at msn.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Nuts, bores, and unit systems FYI: .223 bullets are specified at .224" in diameter. The measure .224" +/- a few ten-thousants (at least on my Starrett micrometer). Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device ? Original Message ? From: a.durbin at msn.com Sent: August 31, 2020 4:33 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Nuts, bores, and unit systems "just goes to show I don?t know much about that, what shoots a .223" I changed the subject so we can spare those readers who actually wonder what size that nut is.?? They won't be interest in who fired what and what size round was used.?? I suppose I could regale you all with tales of firing the Vickers, Bren, and Sten on the ranges as a teenager.? All were 303 and all designed long before UK went metric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington has an answer to the quoted question. But back to wrenches - My tool box still contains Whitworth, BA, imperial, and metric spanners.? Still have the BA taps too and some cycle thread stuff.?? Who could possibly manage with only two sets of wrenches/spanners?? Yes, I used to own and maintain a couple of BSA 650s back when real bikes had a kick starter and sparks came from a magneto. Andy, k3wyc ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From bardinet at protonmail.com Mon Aug 31 17:34:02 2020 From: bardinet at protonmail.com (bardinet) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:34:02 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Configure KX3 for 6 meter SSB Message-ID: The six meter band plan allocates 50.1 to 50.3 MHz for SSB use. How is the KX3 configured for SSB on 6m? Thanks! Paul N7TZW From nelasat at yahoo.com Mon Aug 31 18:03:40 2020 From: nelasat at yahoo.com (Keith Ennis) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 22:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KV5J's line of Digital Displays for Elecraft's W2, KXPA100, KPA500, and KPA1500 In-Reply-To: <170014741.1491117.1597412747296@mail.yahoo.com> References: <170014741.1491117.1597412747296.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <170014741.1491117.1597412747296@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1981732117.871518.1598911420777@mail.yahoo.com> Back on line and have units in stock after hurricane Laura. www.kv5j.com Keith, KV5J On Friday, August 14, 2020, 08:45:47 AM CDT, Keith Ennis wrote: Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's W2 Watt Meter: ?? With the digital read out the DDU takes the guess work out of the LED lights. ?? ? Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's KXPA100 amplifier: ?? Don't wait for a fault light to come on.? Keep an eye on 5 crucial readings at all times. 1. Power amplifier's heat sink temperature 2. Power amplifier's high voltage supply voltage 3. Power amplifier's current 4. Power amplifier's output power 5. SWR that the KXPA100 sees at its output ?? ? Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's KPA500 amplifier: ?? Instead of seeing only 1 crucial reading, monitor 5 at all times. 1. Power amplifier's heat sink temperature 2. Power amplifier's high voltage supply voltage 3. Power amplifier's current 4. Power amplifier's output power 5. SWR that the KPA500 sees at its output ?? ? Digital Display Unit for Elecraft's KPA1500 amplifier: ?? Displays the same display that is on the KPA1500 Amplifier? Change the display on the KPA1500 and the DDU changes ?? ? All of the Digital Display Units: ?? Display Unit can be located at a more visible location Up to the RS232 limit from unit Easy to read 2 line display No USB or serial cable to computer No com port in Windows to manage No computer needed Plug and Play Simply connect the SUPPLIED dc power cable (with inline on/off switch) from the DDU to power supply and SUPPLIED XCVR SERIAL data jumper cable to the device Retains all functions of the front panel All displayed info obtained directly from the device ?? Only 4" x 4" x 2" ?? For more information and ordering go to:? ?www.kv5j.com Thanks 73, Keith,KV5J From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 18:17:42 2020 From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:17:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KV5J's line of Digital Displays for Elecraft's W2, KXPA100, KPA500, and KPA1500 Message-ID: I bought one for my KPA1500 as it is in location makes me so you my head to look at it. Shack can not changed, I will say is absolutely great to be able to look at the controls of the K3S, and tell them exactly what power I'm running instead I having to look across the room. Very Very nice... Paul KB9AVO From 1lasportsman at cox.net Mon Aug 31 18:24:57 2020 From: 1lasportsman at cox.net (1lasportsman 1lasportsman) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:24:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 2m module Message-ID: <704929046.383599.1598912697706@myemail.cox.net> I installed a 2m for the KX3 and it all appeared to set up great. The only problem is it will not select the 2 meter antenna (antenna 2). do I need to somehow tell radio that 2 meters is on antenna 2 . I have read the manual and no where can I find This. Asking before opening radio up again Bill WF9M From radio at disseminator.net Mon Aug 31 18:45:39 2020 From: radio at disseminator.net (Dave Erickson) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 2m module In-Reply-To: <704929046.383599.1598912697706@myemail.cox.net> References: <704929046.383599.1598912697706@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: On 8/31/2020 5:24 PM, 1lasportsman 1lasportsman wrote: > I installed a 2m for the KX3 and it all appeared to set up great. > > The only problem is it will not select the 2 meter antenna (antenna 2). > > do I need to somehow tell radio that 2 meters is on antenna 2 . > > I have read the manual and no where can I find This. > > Asking before opening radio up again > > Bill > > WF9M Bill, The 2m module can ONLY use ant2 and should automatically select it as soon as you switch to the 2m band on the KX3. -- Dave Erickson k0dom 73 From radio at disseminator.net Mon Aug 31 18:49:41 2020 From: radio at disseminator.net (Dave Erickson) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:49:41 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 2m module In-Reply-To: References: <704929046.383599.1598912697706@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <71cbff56-240f-1709-2e92-1c8be715ff0c@disseminator.net> On 8/31/2020 5:45 PM, Dave Erickson wrote: > On 8/31/2020 5:24 PM, 1lasportsman 1lasportsman wrote: >> I installed a 2m?? for the KX3? and it all appeared to set up great. >> >> The only problem is it will not select the 2 meter antenna (antenna 2). >> >> do I need to somehow tell radio that 2 meters is on antenna 2 . >> >> I have read the manual and no where can I find This. >> >> Asking before opening radio up again >> >> Bill >> >> WF9M > > Bill, > > The 2m module can ONLY use ant2 and should automatically select it as > soon as you switch to the 2m band on the KX3. > Also, this should not be confused with ANT2 which is only available if you have a KXPA-100 connected. -- Dave Erickson k0dom 73 From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Aug 31 18:54:11 2020 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:54:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Configure KX3 for 6 meter SSB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So what?s your question. There?s no difference in setup other than frequency. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 31, 2020, at 5:36 PM, bardinet via Elecraft wrote: > > ?The six meter band plan allocates 50.1 to 50.3 MHz for SSB use. > How is the KX3 configured for SSB on 6m? > Thanks! > Paul N7TZW > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From bardinet at protonmail.com Mon Aug 31 19:17:22 2020 From: bardinet at protonmail.com (bardinet) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 23:17:22 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Configure KX3 for 6 meter SSB Message-ID: Question answered! Thank you Ray! Paul, N7TZW From chrisc at chris.org Mon Aug 31 19:26:57 2020 From: chrisc at chris.org (Chris Cox) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:26:57 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ACC2 GPIO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F622EEB-598E-4FE3-AF6F-429E24CACDCE@chris.org> I?ve thought the problem through further and have decided to use a simple mosfet switch in the connector shell to invert the TXInh logic sense and configure the KX3 for -TXInh instead of +TXInh. Hard switching the GPIO pin showed that to be a usable workaround. 73! Chris Cox, N0UK chrisc at chris.org or chrisc at BritishCarAndDriver.com > On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:51, Chris Cox, N0UK wrote: > > ?I wish to interface my KX3 to my portable 10GHz transporter system. I have the transporter?s PTT sequencer configured to output a +ve TX Inhibit signal which I have been using to prevent my current I/F rig from transmitting until all relays have changed over to transmit. The current rig is a Yaesu FT-817. > > I want to be able to simply switchover the PTT/TXInh cable between the two rigs, so that I can continue using the ?817 as a backup in the event of some problem with the KX3, and so was intending to us the KX3?s ACC2 GPIO TX Inh +ve input just as I do the 817. > > However, it seems that the KX3 actually has some bias applied that requires to be pulled low to enable the transmitter, rather than looking for removal of the +ve signal. This will mean that I need more than to simple switch over the physical connectors on the umbilical cable. Although not insurmountable, it?s not exactly ideal. > > Anyone else done this or similar and, if so, what was your solution? > > 73 Chris > > > Chris Cox, N0UK > chrisc at chris.org > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Aug 31 20:44:49 2020 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 20:44:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions Message-ID: I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are no longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to signals at about 60KHz. Does anyone know anything about this? 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Peterborough, NH 03458 From dave at nk7z.net Mon Aug 31 21:03:54 2020 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:03:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2e302b31-fc6b-7f9c-5eef-c58f861f9d44@nk7z.net> My WWVB clock is dead on, and has been for years... No issues here at all. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 8/31/20 5:44 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time > transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are no > longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to signals at about > 60KHz. > > Does anyone know anything about this? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz??????? | "The only thing we have to?? | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900????? | fear is fear itself." - FDR? | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933? | Peterborough, NH 03458 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net From scott.small at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 21:21:35 2020 From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:21:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There was talk of shutting it down as cost savings, but I thought that got squelched. Scott AD6YT On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:45 PM Bill Frantz wrote: > I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time > transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are > no longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to > signals at about 60KHz. > > Does anyone know anything about this? > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 > Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | > Peterborough, NH 03458 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to scott.small at gmail.com > -- Scott Small From dave at nk7z.net Mon Aug 31 21:29:01 2020 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:29:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24292ac9-a118-caa2-9fc1-a0dc3416d677@nk7z.net> It did... That was a ploy to keep funding is all. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 8/31/20 6:21 PM, Tox wrote: > There was talk of shutting it down as cost savings, but I thought that got > squelched. > > Scott > AD6YT > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:45 PM Bill Frantz wrote: > >> I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time >> transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are >> no longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to >> signals at about 60KHz. >> >> Does anyone know anything about this? >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle >> (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 >> Rivermead Rd #235 >> www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | >> Peterborough, NH 03458 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to scott.small at gmail.com >> > > From N4ST at n4st.com Mon Aug 31 21:36:54 2020 From: N4ST at n4st.com (N4ST - Jim) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009f01d68000$64040a30$2c0c1e90$@n4st.com> He may have just recently added a local RFI source to his home. There are some noisy switching supplies out there on consumer devices. One clock I have has an LED display and it shuts the LEDs off at 2am local time for 10 minutes to allow syncing to WWV. _____________ 73, Jim - N4ST -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 20:45 To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are no longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to signals at about 60KHz. Does anyone know anything about this? 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Peterborough, NH 03458 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hamshack at n4st.com From w0eb at cox.net Mon Aug 31 21:47:43 2020 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 01:47:43 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: <009f01d68000$64040a30$2c0c1e90$@n4st.com> References: <009f01d68000$64040a30$2c0c1e90$@n4st.com> Message-ID: Propagation hasn't been the best on VLF either. I'm a lot closer to WWVB than he is and my clocks sometimes lose sync for a day or two as well, but right now they are ally locked on and showing the right time. I also have a QRP Labs GPS clock running that is showing the same time to the second as the WWVB disciplined clocks. I'd bet it's either RFI from a noise source in the house or neighbor's house if close enough or just poor summer propagation on VLF. Jim - W0EB ------ Original Message ------ From: "N4ST - Jim" To: "'Bill Frantz'" ; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 8/31/2020 8:36:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions He may have just recently added a local RFI source to his home. There are some noisy switching supplies out there on consumer devices. One clock I have has an LED display and it shuts the LEDs off at 2am local time for 10 minutes to allow syncing to WWV. _____________ 73, Jim - N4ST -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 20:45 To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are no longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to signals at about 60KHz. Does anyone know anything about this? 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Peterborough, NH 03458 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hamshack at n4st.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net From scott.manthe at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 22:11:03 2020 From: scott.manthe at gmail.com (Scott Manthe) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 22:11:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: <24292ac9-a118-caa2-9fc1-a0dc3416d677@nk7z.net> References: <24292ac9-a118-caa2-9fc1-a0dc3416d677@nk7z.net> Message-ID: A ploy to keep funding?? From who? The president of the United States recommended defunding WWV in his 2019 budget recommendation submitted to the Congress. So, you're saying that the president threatened to cut funding to WWV as a ploy so that Congress would maintain this funding? Clever of him. https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-politics/time-may-be-running-out-millions-clocks 73, Scott N9AA On 8/31/20 9:29 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > It did...? That was a ploy to keep funding is all. > > 73, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > https://www.nk7z.net > ARRL Volunteer Examiner > ARRL Technical Specialist > ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources > > On 8/31/20 6:21 PM, Tox wrote: >> There was talk of shutting it down as cost savings, but I thought >> that got >> squelched. >> >> Scott >> AD6YT >> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:45 PM Bill Frantz >> wrote: >> >>> I had a friend ask me if something has happened to WWV's time >>> transmissions. He says the clocks in his home and his watch are >>> no longer syncing correctly. I think these are syncing to >>> signals at about 60KHz. >>> >>> Does anyone know anything about this? >>> >>> 73 Bill AE6JV >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Bill Frantz??????? | "The only thing we have to?? | Periwinkle >>> (408)348-7900????? | fear is fear itself." - FDR? | 150 >>> Rivermead Rd #235 >>> www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933? | >>> Peterborough, NH 03458 >>> From k2asp at kanafi.org Mon Aug 31 22:35:51 2020 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 19:35:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] WWV Time Transmissions In-Reply-To: References: <24292ac9-a118-caa2-9fc1-a0dc3416d677@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <6ea4049f-4e88-8198-f426-f0c751b74a07@kanafi.org> On 8/31/2020 7:11 PM, Scott Manthe wrote: > A ploy to keep funding?? From who? The president of the United States > recommended defunding WWV in his 2019 budget recommendation submitted to > the Congress. So, you're saying that the president threatened to cut > funding to WWV as a ploy so that Congress would maintain this funding? > Clever of him. Stir, stir, stir. Glad that smarter heads prevailed. But that "de-funding" and "re-funding" is old news. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon