[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 192, Issue 43

Tommy Judson tson35 at icloud.com
Thu Apr 30 09:22:41 EDT 2020


Ok, joined this group even though I don’t own an Elecraft radio - yet.  I’m wanting an Elecraft Elmer to help me understand which rig could be “the one”.  What say someone please? Tommy

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re: Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery (Dave Fugleberg)
>   2. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Jim Brown)
>   3. KX3 Firmware (Ray Soifer)
>   4. Evening Net Announcement & Invitation (kevinr)
>   5. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Roger D Johnson)
>   6. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 192, Issue 42 (Martin)
>   7. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Phil Kane)
>   8. K3 - Using Mono Phone Jack Adapter in "Key" Port (Brian Deuby)
>   9. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (John Kosko)
>  10. Testing (Bob DeHaney)
>  11. Re: Power Supplies and Voltage drop (Phil Kane)
>  12. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
>  13. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
>  14. KX3 internal battery charger normal behavior? (BT * )
>      (Mike Parkes)
>  15. OT: The Colpitts mystery (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197)
>  16. Evening Net Invitation notes, addenda, and errata (kevinr)
>  17. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Fred Jensen)
>  18. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (John Simmons)
>  19. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (k7sss at aol.com)
>  20. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (EricJ)
>  21. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Macy monkeys)
>  22. Re: Mail for Windows 10 (Brian  Denley)
>  23. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Phil Kane)
>  24. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Phil Kane)
>  25. Elecraft Evening Net Report (kevinr)
>  26. Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery (Nr4c)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:38:31 -0500
> From: Dave Fugleberg <dave.w0zf at gmail.com>
> To: Gerry Villhauer <w0gv at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Yep, that was the textbook for the Communications class I had in
> electronics school in 1983. One of the requirements to pass the class was
> to pass the General Radiotelephone exam. The FCC Examiner came over from
> the St Paul field office to the technical school to administer the exam to
> the class.
> Shortly after that, I went to the field office and passed the General and
> Advanced  amateur exams...most of the technical portions were nearly
> identical to the General Radiotelephone.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:35 AM Gerry Villhauer <w0gv at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The text book of choice for the commercial license test was: Electronic
>> Communications by Shrader. I have a copy, 2nd addition. I used it for
>> passing my 2nd and 1st class commercial test...Now the General Radio
>> Telecommunication License.
>> Gerry, W0GV
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:41:01 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
> Message-ID:
> 	<b32ee0a8-9be7-3ea4-8491-c8d1f0a2e262 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> On 4/29/2020 5:31 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
>> Unless the list is capable of being re-configured (possibly with the '
>> *convert_html_to_plaintext*  ' option?), I would urge some notice be given
>> to users that this list is incompatible with Mail for Windows 10,
> 
> This reflector has been happily operating for 20 years with plain text. 
> I subscribe to about 30 lists, half of which operate with plain text. I 
> suggest that users get with THAT program, rather than suggest that these 
> lists are wrong.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:45:03 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1 at aol.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Firmware
> Message-ID: <450108723.2267715.1588178703467 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Dear Elecraft,
> I'm sure you're getting lots of requests for FT8 but I have a simpler request.
> Would it be possible to add 75 baud RTTY to the KX3 firmware?
> 
> BARTG and other RTTY groups are increasingly using it.
> 73 Ray W2RS
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:44 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Evening Net Announcement & Invitation
> Message-ID: <ab79e875-1289-9ab8-9512-419c499ef8f7 at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Good Morning,
> 
> I have been running the Elecraft CW Net since 2002.? It started on 20 
> meters but requests from the West Coast had me start the 40 meter net a 
> year later.? I have received numerous email messages and over the air 
> requests for a mid week evening net.? I will finally get started on that 
> this evening.
> 
> I could run the net as I normally do: call for check ins and then work 
> them in order.? Then call CQ again and work the new list. All while 
> using directed net rules.? Tonight I would like to try a round robin net 
> so others will act as net control.? Think of it as a training exercise.? 
> I keep track of things using two sheets of paper, one for notes, the 
> other for the final list.? While I could have been using computers to do 
> all of the logging I purposely have kept computers out of my radio 
> shack.? I am stuck in front of them during most of the week I would 
> rather spend some time away from a screen while I am on the air.
> 
> But, I digress.? If you want to be part of the round robin effort simply 
> keep track of who you worked.? I will try to keep track but if all goes 
> well someone will be able to work outside of my listening area.? Send 
> your results to me via the radio at the end of the net or email them to 
> me directly.? I expect the first few attempts will be chaotic.? This is 
> normal, it is part of the learning process.? ECN has changed over time, 
> I expect this net will change as well.
> 
> I will start on or near 7047 kHz at 8 PM PDT or 0300z.? Then we see what 
> happens.? This is only an experiment, if it works out that would be 
> fantastic if it doesn't that's OK too.? Forty meters may not work 
> tonight or people may be busy with something else or there are other 
> nets active taking up the space.? I just want to see if all those people 
> who asked me to do this will be on the air and active.? If this time and 
> technique works out the new net should be self supporting allowing new 
> folks to join in at any time with everyone doing part of the work.? I 
> will start the nets and create the reports until someone else volunteers 
> to take over.
> 
> Please join the Elecraft Evening Net on or near 7047 kHz at 8 PM PDT or 
> 0300z.
> 
> If users of other modes (other than CW that is) want to participate 
> please feel free to start calling at 8 PM (0300z) on your mode's 
> favorite frequency.? Then send your net report to me so I can collate it 
> with the others.? Cross mode contacts would be fun once we get this 
> running well.
> 
> Until this evening 73,
> 
> ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS
> 
> -
> 
> This story shall the good man teach his son;
> And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> From this day to the ending of the world,
> But we in it shall be remember?d?
> We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
> For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
> Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
> This day shall gentle his condition;
> And gentlemen in England now a-bed
> Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
> And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
> That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:03:27 -0400
> From: Roger D Johnson <n1rj at roadrunner.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <57a43e75-99ba-702d-1f51-bf445ebfec6e at roadrunner.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> I was stationed with the Coast Guard in Kodiak, Alaska between Summer
> 1976 and Summer 1978. I flew up to Anchorage to take my Extra exam before
> an examiner. Probably sometime in 1977.
> 
> 73, Roger
> 
> 
> On 4/29/2020 10:47 AM, Ted Roycraft wrote:
>> I took the test for Extra administered by an FCC examiner, David Popkin, in NYC
>> in 1964.  So there were still FCC examiners then. Funny that I still remember
>> David Popkin's name but I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.
>> 
>> 73, Ted, W2ZK
>> 
>> On 4/29/2020 12:27 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
>>>> but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
>>> 
>>> My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to early
>>> '80s.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:21:47 +0200
> From: Martin <dm4im at t-online.de>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 192, Issue 42
> Message-ID: <8fd2450c-c89b-dd27-986d-a1eea84a8361 at t-online.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Well, this list is not incompatible with Mail for Windows10, Mail for 
> Windows10 is incompatible with most lists.
> 
> 
> Am 29.04.20 um 18:16 schrieb elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net:
>> Unless the list is capable of being re-configured (possibly with the '
>> *convert_html_to_plaintext*  ' option?), I would urge some notice be given
>> to users that this list is incompatible with Mail for Windows 10, since
>> there does not appear to be any sort of error feedback other than that
>> provided by other users who let you know your message did not get through.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 73, Martin DM4iM
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:28:56 -0700
> From: Phil Kane <k2asp at kanafi.org>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
> Message-ID: <aee4d969-96fe-8c44-0ca4-49f6ceae11d2 at kanafi.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> On 4/29/2020 7:04 AM, kk4kfg wrote:
> 
>> So yet again Microsoft and Windows 10 does something absolutely stupid
>> and against every known specification for a mail client and the offered
>> "solution" is for others to fix it or mask a solution.
> 
> I use Windows 10 on all my PCs and my wife's Microsoft Surface.  We just
> don't use Mail.  To paraphrase an old cartoon - is it OK to wear jeans
> in school?  Yes it's OK to wear jeans in school , but it it not OK to
> wear jeans in THIS school".
> 
> I too have used Thunderbird for at least 20 years, after I switched from
> PC-Mail and the IBM-OS/2 operating system to Windows NT.  My arm still
> hurts from being twisted.
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:30:46 -0400
> From: Brian Deuby <bdeuby at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: bdeuby at gmail.com
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Using Mono Phone Jack Adapter in "Key" Port
> Message-ID: <f8db1d49-970e-654a-734d-82cb4535e5c2 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> I'm considering attempting modify the operation of my UR5CDX CT 755 
> paddle so that it acts like a cootie. I understand that this can be done 
> by using a mono phone jack adapter on the end of the CT 755 cable (which 
> terminates with a stereo jack) and plugging it into the "Key" port on 
> the K3.
> 
> I can't find anything in any of my K3 manuals that cautions against this 
> - but I do have a vague recollection of seeing some caution of this 
> nature somewhere.
> 
> Is there any reason I can't safely plug a mono adapter jack into the 
> "Key" port on the K3?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian K8GRR
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:37:54 +0000
> From: John Kosko <koskojw at hotmail.com>
> To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
> Message-ID:
> 	<DM6PR04MB5306A9A1B28FD04CD9D15466A1AD0 at DM6PR04MB5306.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> I?m running a one year old ASUS using Windows 10 and Hotmail/Outlook and Win10 is NOT in Win7 mode.  I?m not aware of a problem, although I didn?t get any Elecraft emails yesterday?odd.
> Regards, John K8TCT  K3S s/n 11718
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:56:04 +0200
> From: "Bob DeHaney" <bobdehaney at gmx.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Testing
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
> 
> I was given my Conditional Test by W4MLE(SK) in 1960. He was also my Elmer and a great guy.
> 
> Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:12:49 -0700
> From: Phil Kane <k2asp at kanafi.org>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Supplies and Voltage drop
> Message-ID: <bdcc79ad-a0d2-c8a2-e936-3485e63a29b9 at kanafi.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> On 4/25/2020 8:21 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> 
>> Here is what I did to remedy the situation.??? I obtained two 10-32 x 2"
>> brass screws from the hardware store.? I got 4 nuts, 2 for each screw, 4
>> flat washers, 2 for each screw and two wing nuts.?? I then cut the head
>> off of each screw and filed a flat spot about 1/2 " long and deep enough
>> to removed the threads.
> 
> I fixed my brand-new Astron SS-50M a bit differently.  One set screw on
> the connection block was seized up, so Astron sent me two new blocks
> with instructions to open the case and replace them.  When I opened the
> case I saw that the leads to the blocks had ring terminals held to the
> blocks by a short screw.  I removed the existing blocks and replaced
> them with 10-32 x 2" brass screws.  I used two short plates of ABS from
> TAP Plastics to serve as insulated spacers (one inside the case and one
> outside the case) and drilled the appropriate holes to permit the screws
> to be held  through the case with appropriate nuts and washers.  The
> leads to my power distribution board) are AWG 6 terminated in standard
> electrical lugs held by massive set-screws and are fastened onto the
> screws by appropriate nuts.  If I have to remove them I keep a Spintite
> (nut driver) nearby.  Works great so far!
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:32:33 -0700
> From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <KX3.2 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
> Message-ID:
> 	<55e7ce40-2da5-3dfc-cfe7-faeee5749831 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Ah, sadly, no.  As much as I like to blame Microsoft, we have to start 
> with RFC-1341 and Multipurpose Independent Mail Extensions.
> 
> Microsoft did not contribute to that RFC.
> 
> MIME allows more than one formatting option.  We had something called 
> "Rich Text" but Netscape brought us HTML as a formatting option, and 
> that made it possible to embed code that would load malware on your 
> computer.
> 
> That's when List Servers got the ability to strip formatting -- it put a 
> stop to people blaming the list for the poor security in their OS.
> 
> HTML is a poor choice, but it's also supported in just about every 
> E-Mail client.
> 
> This is where we can blame Microsoft (some), but it's hard to render 
> HTML and detect all the possible issues.
> 
> 73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT
> 
> P.S. Thunderbird is much better, but this issue remains.
> 
> On 4/29/20 7:04 AM, kk4kfg wrote:
>> Respectfully I offer the following.
>> 
>> So yet again Microsoft and Windows 10 does something absolutely stupid
>> and against every known specification for a mail client and the offered
>> "solution" is for others to fix it or mask a solution.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:33:32 -0700
> From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <KX3.2 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
> Message-ID:
> 	<22e07ca6-0697-006a-0376-d8dcda6b4495 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> It depends on the version and how it is configured.
> 
> On 4/29/20 8:20 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> Apparently Microsoft Outlook has none of the issues being described.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:46 AM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> =====================================CUT====================================
>> =
>> 
>> On 4/29/20 7:04 AM, kk4kfg wrote:
>> 
>> Respectfully I offer the following.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So yet again Microsoft and Windows 10 does something absolutely stupid
>> 
>> and against every known specification for a mail client and the offered
>> 
>> "solution" is for others to fix it or mask a solution.
>> 
>> =====================================CUT====================================
>> =
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ...and that is why I run Linux as my main OS!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> 
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> 
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> 
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> 
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> 
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
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>> 
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:05:08 +0000
> From: Mike Parkes <mspmail2 at gmail.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery charger normal behavior? (BT
> 	* )
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAP4v5qwKgWboZwzj0iuSQji=8U6Ubp1MFxhyo8huVvCbC6SgZA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> I set a 12 hour charge cycle on some 2000mah Eneloops in the KX3.
> After the charge cycle had completed the asterisk remained on when checking
> voltage, showing BT*11.6V (using vfo B). Is that normal?
> I checked Menu > Bat Charge, and it showed CHG OFF so the charging was
> completed apparently but I wasn't sure about the ( * ) remaining on.
> - Mike AB7RU
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:25:20 -0700
> From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197" <dougfaunt at gmail.com>
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAHirYAh7HCwnxKoO8nwQFBNC723od0rj9Wz=ib9W9GJepLNzFg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> I took the commercial tests in '69. I seem to recall having to learn
> the various oscillator circuits.
> I was an ATN2 on night check in VA-125 in Lemoore, CA.
> The night check AT shop Chief wanted to get his 2nd class
> Radiotelephone so he could work
> on aircraft electronics when he retired, so he had the whole night
> check shop studying.
> I'd been doing electronics and radio for a number of years, so I was
> teaching everyone.
> A bunch of us went up to Fresno for the exam and I was the first one
> done.  I was also the only one
> who got a 1st Radiotelephone, the rest got 3rd at best, even the Chief.
> I managed to pick up a broadcast endorsement in SC after I got out,
> and then many years later
> when I started sailing on tall ships, I heard about GMDSS, so studied
> that and added GMDSS Operator/Maintainer
> with a Radar endorsement on top of the GROL that my 1st had turned
> into.  It turns out, for international
> compliance, the USCG required a STCW-approved course to add GMDSS to
> my Merchant Mariners Credential,
> so I had to do a 10-day course, with practical evaluations, and essay
> questions! So I did that, arguing with the
> instructor the whole time, simce I gave correct answers, but not what
> he expected.  The other three people
> in the course dropped out quickly- their company had sent them, but
> they actually didn't need it on their MMC.
> 73, doug
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:58:06 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: Elecraft-KX at groups.io
> Subject: [Elecraft] Evening Net Invitation notes, addenda, and errata
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> Good Afternoon,
> 
> ?? I have received a few messages about activities on 40 meters at my 
> chosen time and frequency.? CWT may push us up in frequency but I don't 
> want to get too far into the digital portion of the band.? The old 
> novice band may be better between 7100 and 7125 if the QRS folks don't 
> mind.? I plan to start around 7050 kHz and see how it goes.? The CWT 
> activity may not reach that high.
> 
> ? As for procedures I will start with a preamble of some sort 
> explaining what we're trying to do.? Then call CQ.? I'll handle the 
> first round logging questions and comments.? Then I will pass net 
> control to whomever volunteers (or the one I pick :)? NCS duties are not 
> tough.? Just call CQ and take notes.? Work your group and choose the 
> next victim :)? When that thins out pass control back to me and I'll 
> list questions, answers, and comments.? One more call and then let the 
> net go free.? I have never closed the Elecraft CW Net, I just let it go 
> free. Occasionally contacts continue between the attendees.? WAS 
> contacts happen too.? It just feels wrong to assume one can control 
> activity.? It is hard enough to maintain control of a net :)
> 
> ? Evening net starts at 8 PM PDT (0300z) on or near 7050 kHz unless 
> forced to move into the 7100-7125 range.
> 
> ? 73,
> 
> ???? Kevin.? KD5ONS
> 
> -
> 
> The play's the thing
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:14:11 -0700
> From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <a42d166b-3f54-3cf1-a292-934fdfc0e908 at foothill.net>
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> I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
>>> but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
>> 
>> My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to 
>> early '80s.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:08:15 -0500
> From: John Simmons <jasimmons at pinewooddata.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <5055ac48-f2ab-6acd-9548-6296733f7162 at pinewooddata.com>
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> 
> I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about 
> 6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way 
> before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as 
> a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think 
> it is a great change for us hams.
> 
> 73,
> -de John NI0K
> 
> Fred Jensen wrote on 4/29/2020 4:14 PM:
>> I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
>>>> but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
>>> 
>>> My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s 
>>> to early '80s.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 23:46:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: k7sss at aol.com
> To: jasimmons at pinewooddata.com, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <965634212.1698725.1588203975215 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> Hi all,This brings back old memories. In 1962, I was in Vocational School in St Paul, MN studying Electronics. My instructors told me to get a 1st Phone w radar endorsement as it would make it easier to get a job. So I did at the FCC office in St Paul, and since then every job I had, required a 1st or 2nd class and some jobs a radar endorsement.I had to renewed it by getting 5 endorsements from officials in charge of the stations. I did not like it when it was converted to General Radio Telephone and life time.I got my ham license in 2011 as I could not do CW. I tried but always failed.
> 73Jim HK7SSS
> In a message dated 4/29/2020 4:10:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, jasimmons at pinewooddata.com writes:
> 
> I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about 
> 6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way 
> before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as 
> a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think 
> it is a great change for us hams.
> 
> 73,
> -de John NI0K
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:45:26 -0700
> From: EricJ <eric_csuf at hotmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID:
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> 
> A google search brought up a number of websites with a history of ham 
> licensing. They all say exactly what I said. From Wikipedia:
> 
> "In the 1950s and 1960s, Novice, Technician and Conditional exams were 
> given by licensees acting as volunteer examiners."
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_licensing_in_the_United_States
> 
> Volunteer examiners does not mean Volunteer Examiners (VE) as we've 
> known them since 1984. VE organizations are officially recognized by the 
> FCC. Before that, they were hams who volunteered to whoever asked to 
> administer the test, sign it, and mail it to the FCC. They were not part 
> of any officially recognized program as VE's are. They were just Joe Ham 
> whose friend, acquaintance or stranger asked them to give them the test. 
> The applicant sent away to the FCC for the test and gave it to Joe Ham 
> in a sealed envelope. I did the deed many times at K2USA when I was 
> stationed there in the 60's. I was just a guy with a General Class 
> license who volunteered to give them a code test and proctor a written test.
> 
> Eric KE6US
> 
> ex-K1DCK, WA6YCF, WB2PVW
> 
> 
> On 4/29/2020 2:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
>>>> but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
>>> 
>>> My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s 
>>> to early '80s.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:52:59 -0700
> From: Macy monkeys <macymonkeys at charter.net>
> To: John Simmons <jasimmons at pinewooddata.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <55D57003-1297-4D2F-9DAD-E621A5D48D4D at charter.net>
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> 
> I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was racing when that series of V's came through those headphones! 
> 
> John K7FD
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:08 PM, John Simmons <jasimmons at pinewooddata.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about 6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think it is a great change for us hams.
>> 
>> 73,
>> -de John NI0K
>> 
>> Fred Jensen wrote on 4/29/2020 4:14 PM:
>>> I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>>> On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>>>> On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote:
>>>>> but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams.
>>>> 
>>>> My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to early '80s.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 21:23:05 -0400
> From: "Brian  Denley" <b.denley at comcast.net>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail for Windows 10
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> 
> Test
> 
> Brian  KB1VBF
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:22:59 -0700
> From: Phil Kane <k2asp at kanafi.org>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <5a0f6d46-8af4-f662-8c8b-336ec2e77c74 at kanafi.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> On 4/29/2020 4:46 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote:
> 
>> I did not like it when it was converted to General Radio Telephone and life time
> 
> You weren't alone.  I was one of the field supervisors whose opinion was
> being considered by the committee that dealt on how to do the
> transition, but the handwriting was on the wall.  Ditto for the amateur
> radio VE testing transition.
> 
> Blame me for suggesting the new name - it's the international name of
> that license but few of the members recognized that.
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:32:31 -0700
> From: Phil Kane <k2asp at kanafi.org>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <b9aa6f10-686c-9de7-c6d1-f18123c0ead4 at kanafi.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> On 4/29/2020 5:52 PM, Macy monkeys wrote:
> 
>> I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late
>> 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann.
>> IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was
>> racing when that series of V's came through those headphones!
> 
> Frank McCann was one of the old timers when I joined the agency in 1967.
> By that time he was the Engineer in Charge of the Portland Office but
> the EIC did a lot of the journeyman jobs in those smaller offices.  When
> he retired in the late 1970s (or was it the early 1980s) I applied for
> his job but they had to give it to someone else whose office was being
> closed and I continued at the San Francisco Office until I retired in
> 1995.  I have no idea what happened to him after that.
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:15:39 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Evening Net Report
> Message-ID: <08f0eadd-2cfd-dd1e-077c-b34d2a341f11 at coho.net>
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> 
> Good Evening,
> 
> ?? Conditions were not too good for the inaugural evening event. 
> However, I was not skunked.
> 
> ? On 7050.5 kHz at 0300z:
> 
> KL7CW - Rick - AK
> 
> 
> He was much weaker than either of our last two contacts.? He was S9 on 
> 20 meters and S7 on 40 meters.? Tonight he was around 559 with QSB from 
> 3 to 6.? Not very much noise which is normally a bad sign.? Higher noise 
> usually means I am hearing a broader area of the country.
> 
> But nothing ventured nothing gained.? I started opening the net around 
> 0255z and continued until 0309z.? I did not fail which is always a 
> plus.? Next week I'll try again and maybe the sun will cooperate.? There 
> were two old sunspots a few days back and new one forming today.? That 
> gives me hope that the sun won't remain blank forever.
> 
> ?? Until next week stay well,
> 
> ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 23:44:25 -0400
> From: Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com>
> To: k2asp at arrl.net
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery
> Message-ID: <D8EB7384-8F53-48A5-B9A8-296B2874A797 at widomaker.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Will this ?Mystery? ever be solved?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Phil Kane <k2asp at kanafi.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?On 4/29/2020 4:46 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote:
>> 
>>> I did not like it when it was converted to General Radio Telephone and life time
>> 
>> You weren't alone.  I was one of the field supervisors whose opinion was
>> being considered by the committee that dealt on how to do the
>> transition, but the handwriting was on the wall.  Ditto for the amateur
>> radio VE testing transition.
>> 
>> Blame me for suggesting the new name - it's the international name of
>> that license but few of the members recognized that.
>> 
>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
>> 
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
>> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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