[Elecraft] [K2] K60XV - No longer available?

[Bill Coleman]

There’s also another, similar kit, the TIK2:
http://01895fa.netsolhost.com/PDF/Manuals/TIK2.pdf



> On Sep 12, 2019, at 6:59 PM, Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Downeast Microwaver already did that
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> Look Here  http://01895fa.netsolhost.com/PDF/Manuals/EKTI.pdf
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> From this page https://www.downeastmicrowave.com/articles.asp?ID=252
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> On Thursday, September 12, 2019, 06:56:07 AM EDT, Bill Coleman <aa4lr at arrl.net> wrote:
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> 
> Gwen,
> 
> You missed the point. They DISCONTINUED the K60XV because they could no longer obtain the bottom-adjustment trimmer caps.
> 
> Wayne suggested someone could design a new board that just had the XV part of the kit.
> 
> What I’m saying is that the existing board would work just fine for the XV part of the kit. Since Elecraft CANNOT supply all of the 60m parts, since some of them are no longer available, why not just sell a re-branded kit that just has the XV parts.
> 
> There is NO liability concern, since the rebranded kit works just as advertised.
> 
> I’ve encountered many, many electronic products in my lifetime where a single board is variously populated with parts, depending on the features present. 
> 
> I spent a little bit of time looking at the K60XV schematic, and it looks like the 60m component is about 10 or so parts
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> > On Sep 11, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Gwen Patton <ardrhi at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Bill,
> > It's not just a matter of deciding to sell the thing without a few parts. Manufacturing and distributing hardware, whether pre-assembled or in kit form, takes a LOT of work. 
> > Check out this video from Dave Jones at the EEVBlog on the economics of manufacturing your own hardware: https://youtu.be/UwrkfHadeQQ There's also a long thread on his forum: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-887-the-economics-of-selling-hardware/
> > 
> > I strongly recommend Dave's Youtube channel and his forum for information about electronics. If you're in the industry, maybe you've already run into it. I hope the video I linked helps clarify why it's not just a matter of putting out a kit or product "without the 60m parts". (I wouldn't even want to know the product liability side of distributing a product missing some parts because they're no longer available. That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.)
> > 
> > 73,
> > Gwen, NG3P (who in no way works for Elecraft, and is just putting in her 2 cents worth)
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 6:21 PM Bill Coleman <aa4lr at arrl.net> wrote:
> > Here’s a radical idea. Why not just sell the K60XV, minus the 60m parts?
> > 
> > That way, no one has to design a new board.
> > 
> > You could call it the K—XV, where the 60 part has been subtracted.
> > 
> > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > The high-value, low-temperature-coefficient trimmer capacitors leveraged in the design are no longer available. Unfortunately we don't have staff available to redesign the board to do it in another way, and demand is low.
> > > 
> > > The transverter interface by itself could live on a smaller board. Schematics are available if someone would like to home-roll a replacement. We could supply small quantities of the programmed PIC16C621 that runs the module (cost TBD).
> > > 
> > > 73,
> > > Wayne
> > > N6KR
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Neil Zampella <neilz at techie.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> FWIW .. this question is for Wayne or Eric,  could the K60XV be
> > >> redesigned using currently available components, or perhaps something
> > >> that would allow easy use of the transverters?
> > >> 
> > >> Neil, KN3ILZ
> > > 
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