[Elecraft] Radio clocks, internet and security!

Tommy tommy58 at hvc.rr.com
Sat Oct 19 08:00:41 EDT 2019


   I too agree with Don 100%! I also wouldn't buy a so called "smart" 
TV. And I'll trust my Linux machine far more than any Windows or Mac. 
Even Chromebooks (they are Linux based) are more secure than Windows and 
Macs. And "smart phones" are too smart for their own good too. I just 
bought my first one earlier this year. I like the internet but don't 
need to be connected to it every second of the day.

73! de Tom - KB2SMS


On 10/18/19 8:59 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Don,
> Plus you actually get exercise when you walk to your devices rather than rely on some software that does in fact invade your privacy. I am with you on this 100%.
>
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 6:55 PM
> To: hawley, charles j jr <c-hawley at illinois.edu>; Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; Elecraft-K4 at groups.io
> Subject: [Elecraft] Radio clocks, internet and security!
>
> Chuck and all,
>
> How many actually use the clock in the K3, K3S, KX3 or KX2?
> I certainly don't.  In the case of the KX3 it is used to time the charging of the internal batteries - good use.
>
> I can see a ham without a watch or cell phone to want the rig to display the time for logging, but for me, my good old Timex on my wrist tells me what time to log.  The clock in my KX3 is more difficult to access than simply glancing at my wrist!
>
> I have never even set the clock in my K3 or KX3!  Nor do I feel a need to do so.
>
> As far as the K4 Linux software/firmware being internet connected, I have my reservations about that.  I have enough stuff connected to the internet, and someone will have to demonstrate the benefit of my ham radio being connected to the internet in addition to my computers.
>
> If connection of the K4 to the internet is to be done, I have concerns about security and personal privacy.  Even Linux is subject to bad stuff from the internet - it is not entirely secure, it is just that the number of users is small compared to other OS versions and hackers just do not bother for most cases.
>
> When my refrigerator or microwave begins to listen in to my conversations, I begin to worry about the BIG Brother consequences.
>
> BTW, I do not have an Alexa or Siri device for those security reasons.
> I can easily use a switch on the wall to operate a light switch and it is secure. I can turn on my home theater or my computer AV application when I want to hear music or view videos.
>
> Call me old-fashioned, but I like to have control of my environment.
> The Internet Of Things seems to be fraught with exposures and dangers that I am not willing to accept.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/18/2019 2:03 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>> Is a more accurate clock possible? I imagine that depends on available chips but it’s a common topic.
>>
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