[Elecraft] Will there be a K4

[Doug Person]

Even if it's just an application installed into an integrated computer? 
This would not be folding the source into other code. It's just 
installing it into a computer that happens to be inside another device. 
It wouldn't be firmware. It would be the same as when I run it on my 
Raspberry Pi.

Doug --KJ0F

On 3/25/2019 12:01 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:
> FWIW .. the FT8 code is not 'open source' it is under the General Public
> License v3.   According to the GPL v3 FAQ:
>
> "You cannot incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system.
> The goal of the GPL is to grant everyone the freedom to copy,
> redistribute, understand, and modify a program. If you could incorporate
> GPL-covered software into a nonfree system, it would have the effect of
> making the GPL-covered software nonfree too."
>
> So in reality, unless the firmware is then made available under the GPL
> v3, which I don't see Elecraft doing, you can't use FT8 in the firmware.
>
> Neil, KN3iLZ
>
> On 3/25/2019 11:57 AM, Doug Person wrote:
>> I think you misunderstand open source. Doug -- KJ0F
>>
>> On 3/25/2019 7:37 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
>>> "integrated FT8" will never happen.  If I'm not mistaken, FT8 is open
>>> source and incorporating that software with its licensing requirements
>>> could expose Elecraft to all sorts of exposure; as their software is 
>>> NOT
>>> open-source.
>>>
>>> At least I believe I read that somewhere.   That's my belief. Sort of
>>> the same reason HRD or other licensed, closed-source apps do not
>>> incorporate FT8 or any of those derivatives into their software.   They
>>> simply can't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 1:08 AM Martin Sole <hs0zed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well since you asked and made this sort of official, here's a few
>>>> things, though in no particular order of merit:
>>>>
>>>> Integrated 7” (or bigger) panadaptor with touch screen.
>>>>
>>>> ‘Proper’ band stacking registers.
>>>>
>>>> Equal sized vfo knobs for A and B.
>>>>
>>>> Individual mode buttons.
>>>>
>>>> AGC, NB, NR all with front panel controls adjustable on the fly.
>>>>
>>>> More digital mode integration, built in FT8 with up-gradable
>>>> software as
>>>> digi modes develop.
>>>>
>>>> Integrated PSU for 100-250 Vac.
>>>>
>>>> 50V minimum PA.
>>>>
>>>> Ground Breaking earth shattering TX IMD.
>>>>
>>>> Using the built in touch screen full descriptive menu.
>>>>
>>>> Bigger rotary controls with more space.
>>>>
>>>> RF performance equal to or better than best of the best.
>>>>
>>>> Modular design with bare bones to fully loaded capability.
>>>>
>>>> PA options from 10 to 500 watts fully integrated with ATU
>>>> (KPA500/KAT500).
>>>>
>>>> I/Q output.
>>>>
>>>> Proper base station radio without concern for portability (K3S is
>>>> already the leader there).
>>>>
>>>> More extensive API giving ability to do literally everything the radio
>>>> can do from a computer.
>>>>
>>>> Removeable head so the base radio can be remoted and the control head
>>>> used from where you need to be.
>>>>
>>>> More ‘And’, less ‘Either or’ (Mic/Line selection level etc).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/03/2019 07:14, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
>>>>> Inquiring minds want to know:
>>>>> What would you all like to see as a “K4” ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> elecraft.com
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