[Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY

Wed Mar 20 01:08:09 EDT 2019

Peter,
     For a simple uncomplicated set up, the software choice is whatever 
you are familiar with, but the GENERAL set up should be the same. I use 
FLDIGI for two reasons, I know it and it interfaces with N1MM for 
contesting. I doubt it works better or worse than most of the others. 
With software there are no interfaces needed if you are using a K3s 
making set up easier. Like I said earlier, it's just a matter of letting 
your software know what sound card you are using, the USB CODEC, and the 
com port of the radio. The rest is pretty much twisting the knobs on the 
radio to set levels. You should loose no sleep over this; it's make you 
tired and mistake prone. Only one thing I forgot to tell you and that is 
turn your VOX on so the tones turn your transmitter on automatically and 
off when you're finished sending.

     I just looked up Winwarbler. It says it can be used for RTTY, but 
you need either a multimode modem or some additional software and then 
they must all play together. I really suggest not using Winwarbler if I 
am correct; it will add an additional level of complexity. Use FLDIGI. 
MixW, MultiPSK, or another complete S/W application. The setup should be 
more straight forward.

     If you want, I can talk you through it via LL phone. It really 
shouldn't take more than about 30-45 minutes to make it all play. 
Contact me directly and I'll give you my phone number. But, I don't 
function before about noon EDT.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Peter Dougherty" <lists at w2irt.net>
To: "Barry" <barrylazar2 at gmail.com>; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 3/19/2019 9:56:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY

>Before I start messing with FLDigi, I would really rather prefer to get 
>it working with the native DX Lab Suite first, and why I mentioned it 
>in my initial post. Adding more software that I don’t (and will never) 
>understand is the very last thing I want to do unless there is no way 
>around it.
>
>When I used FSK with the MicroKeyer it was dead simple, RTTY filtering 
>came up as a default in the radio (twin peak filtering) and it worked 
>with almost no configuration. I would like to have something similar 
>using AFSK and USB connectivity—specifically the twin-peak brick-wall 
>filtering. Right now, just switching in to RTTY mode in WinWarbler just 
>puts the radio into LSB mode and that’s it.
>
>Like I said, I really need to get this working with WW if it’s 
>compatible. I’ve had maybe 3 hours of sleep per night for the last 3 
>nights playing with this radio, N1MM, and DX Lab Suite, and I’m almost 
>no further ahead than I was 3 nights ago. All I have is CW via 
>WinWarbler and full manual control. CW sending and /RTTY tone just 
>won’t work for me so far. Everybody was saying last year that it isn’t 
>that hard to do….yet here we are!
>
>
>
>- pjd
>
>
>
>From: Barry <barrylazar2 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:24 PM
>To: Peter Dougherty <lists at w2irt.net>; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY
>
>
>
>Peter,
>
>     I'm not that familiar with Winwarbler, but I do run AFSK when using 
>RTTY. You could use DATA A on the K3s or AFSK. I prefer to use the AFSK 
>mode as it appear to work better than just using DATA A. The set up 
>should be about the same as you are using for FT8 using the radio's 
>built in sound card for the software you use; I prefer FLDIGI just 
>because.
>
>
>
>     The K3s does do FSK, but I'm not sure there is a real advantage 
>over running in the AFSK mode with some digital software. The data mode 
>as you call it is DATA A on the radio. It means you can feed the output 
>of some digital software into the radio and use any available 
>bandwidth. It also turns off the equalizers and compressor. AFSK has a 
>filter for each tone.
>
>
>
>     I'm not sure why you have had some much difficulty as I would 
>estimate it shouldn't take more than one day. ;-)
>
>
>
>     As you have a K3s, the set up really shouldn't be a lot of trouble. 
>Start by downloading FLDIGI and connecting the radio using the USB 
>connector.  This allows both control of the radio and audio in and out. 
>Set the sound card in FLDIGI to USB CODEC line in and speaker out. The 
>radio will reflect a com port that will be used for control, use it at 
>38,400 8N2. Now you're set to go. Use the mic control on the front of 
>the radio to set the level for the transmitter such that ALC will show 
>4 bars and a flickering 5th. The power level should be set with the 
>knob that controls power. This should be how you set up for FT8 using 
>WSJT-X. All you need to do is set op mode in FLDIGI and go. Have fun!
>
>
>
>73,
>
>Barry
>
>K3NDM
>
>.
>
>------ Original Message ------
>
>From: "Peter Dougherty" <lists at w2irt.net>
>
>To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>
>Sent: 3/19/2019 8:59:17 PM
>
>Subject: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY
>
>
>
>>I haven't sent AFSK RTTY in almost 18 years so I'm not sure how I 
>>should set
>>
>>my K3s up for it. I will be using it with DX Labs WinWarbler 
>>exclusively (I
>>
>>don't do RTTY contesting, so no need to get it working with N1MM). I 
>>have
>>
>>the radio setup for USB communication exclusively. Before this I had a
>>
>>MicroKeyer-II and was sending FSK. Given the rise of FT8 I doubt I'll 
>>be
>>
>>doing much RTTY anymore, but I still need to have it available just in 
>>case.
>>
>>
>>
>>Using WinWarbler, I don't see any option to use a data mode for RTTY, 
>>just
>>
>>LSB (again, we're talking AFSK now). Isn't there a data mode built 
>>into the
>>
>>K3s for RTTY? Or is that just for FSK? Or is it a case of only using 
>>data
>>
>>mode for one (and only one) data format? At the moment, I have the 
>>radio
>>
>>using Data mode for FT8.
>>
>>
>>
>>Sorry for the confusion-it's been three days of trying to find the 
>>right
>>
>>settings for everything, with only very limited success. Thanks as 
>>always.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Peter Dougherty
>>
>>
>>
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