From witmerjr at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 10:44:50 2018
From: witmerjr at gmail.com (Bob Witmer)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 10:44:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 For Sale
Message-ID: <C5A78E89-2AC6-4F6B-BC54-E85720E2C0C8@gmail.com>

Hello, 

Selling factory assembled SN18XX, KAT500 for friend leaving the hobby for personal reasons.

Was little used with a IC746PRO at a maximum power level of 100 watts or so - only on SSB.  

Works great - has latest version 01.75 firmware.

Has a slight scratch on the right side - and a tiny ?smudge? near the back of the top cover.

Includes original Manual, unused KXUSB Interface cable assembly and RCA to RCA PA KEY cable. No original factory shipping box but will be well packed for shipment. 

Price: $550 OBO, USPS money order - or check, plus shipping 8 Lbs from 19446.  No PayPal.

Please respond off list - I can send picts if you like.

Thanks & 73

Bob W3RW


From K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET  Mon Oct  1 11:49:24 2018
From: K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET (Mike Greenway)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:49:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
Message-ID: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>

I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 Mike K4PI

From k1whs at metrocast.net  Mon Oct  1 12:10:30 2018
From: k1whs at metrocast.net (David Olean)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:10:30 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
In-Reply-To: <60FC5311-8465-4833-B7C4-5110457015D1@gmail.com>
References: <60FC5311-8465-4833-B7C4-5110457015D1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <234eb5de-7eb9-5d9e-bac7-2415bdef8b89@metrocast.net>

John,

Thanks for that post.? The B Bender, while not Elecraft related, sure 
was an interesting wrinkle in guitar tech, and all from the minds of 
Clarence White and Gene Parsons.? Clarence White was a huge presence 
tragically cut short at the age of 29.? I learn so much from this reflector.

Dave K1WHS



On 10/1/2018 12:52 AM, John Dolan wrote:
> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string Bender works.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
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From k8rgm at comcast.net  Mon Oct  1 13:36:10 2018
From: k8rgm at comcast.net (ROBERT MUELLER)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
Message-ID: <295732766.33420.1538415370266@connect.xfinity.com>

Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 Mike K4PI
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Mon Oct  1 15:42:27 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:42:27 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <295732766.33420.1538415370266@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<295732766.33420.1538415370266@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <c945e423-0b08-db30-073e-bac9f788ec92@blomand.net>

While I use both WSJT-X, V1.9.1,? and HRD, I allow WSJT to create and 
save its own log.? Then I transfer the entries from the WSJT log to my 
other log system.? That then uploads the selected entries to LOTW.??? 
I've more often than not found that if I allow one software to run 
within or under another software, there's just two many cooks in the 
kitchen tasting the pot.???? In other words, I run WSJT as a stand a 
lone application and do not have any conflicts.? The operating system is 
a current version of Windows 10 with all of their updates.

As suggestions, I would open WSJT as a stand a lone and see if it 
connects to the rig and operates correctly.?? Then close WSJT and open 
HRD using one of its modes, i.e. PSK-31, and see if it operates 
correctly.??? If so on both, and mine does, then there is no specific 
issue with either application or the computer or the radio.?? I use the 
USB communication with my K3S.? Then with both applications running I 
find is the area where the hand shake is supported to occur but indeed a 
fist fight breaks out.?? That says HRD will need to be update in order 
for Windows 10 to handle the activity.? The bottom line, when Microsoft 
updates Windows 10, all other application software is likely in need of 
an update as well.

Good luck in resolving the issue.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/1/2018 12:36 PM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 Mike K4PI
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From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 15:58:51 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick Bates (WA6NHC))
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:58:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <c945e423-0b08-db30-073e-bac9f788ec92@blomand.net>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<295732766.33420.1538415370266@connect.xfinity.com>
	<c945e423-0b08-db30-073e-bac9f788ec92@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <ED23ED6D-377E-415B-BBF1-6DD5CE5BB697@gmail.com>

I?ve had zero issues with WSJT-X over HRD and now that the logging hooks were added to HRD, no more importing logs (or a third party program to link logs) is required. 

It just works. 

Rick WA6NHC

Smell Czech correction happen

> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> While I use both WSJT-X, V1.9.1,  and HRD, I allow WSJT to create and save its own log.  Then I transfer the entries from the WSJT log to my other log system.  That then uploads the selected entries to LOTW.    I've more often than not found that if I allow one software to run within or under another software, there's just two many cooks in the kitchen tasting the pot.     In other words, I run WSJT as a stand a lone application and do not have any conflicts.  The operating system is a current version of Windows 10 with all of their updates.
> 
> As suggestions, I would open WSJT as a stand a lone and see if it connects to the rig and operates correctly.   Then close WSJT and open HRD using one of its modes, i.e. PSK-31, and see if it operates correctly.    If so on both, and mine does, then there is no specific issue with either application or the computer or the radio.   I use the USB communication with my K3S.  Then with both applications running I find is the area where the hand shake is supported to occur but indeed a fist fight breaks out.   That says HRD will need to be update in order for Windows 10 to handle the activity.  The bottom line, when Microsoft updates Windows 10, all other application software is likely in need of an update as well.
> 
> Good luck in resolving the issue.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
>> On 10/1/2018 12:36 PM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
>> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
>> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 Mike K4PI
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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Mon Oct  1 16:08:56 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:08:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
Message-ID: <33ba027f-54ec-c2c1-348e-2155c183e360@triconet.org>

I had a K3 in service (now a spare) for about 8 years before getting a K3S.? I 
didn't do WSJT but some RTTY and PSK using the Line In/Out into my Lenovo laptop 
internal sound card.? Worked like a champ, started with zero and now have 255 
countries on RTTY.

I tried to use the K3S USB sound and got tired of the incessant need to fuss 
with drive and VOX levels.? I requested many times for firmware that would save 
VOX settings by mode to no avail. (When I had another issue, Elecraft Support 
actually told me that they didn't recommend VOX on digital modes.)

I've returned to using the analog audio in/out of the radio and the laptop sound 
card, which is higher quality anyway.? (I have a TASCAM US-100, highly 
recommended by the resident audio guru, but haven't found it to be any 
advantage.)? This also makes it easier to resort to the spare radio when necessary.

Wes? N7WS? standing by for the flack from the faithful.

On 10/1/2018 8:49 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 Mike K4PI


From pa0kv at pa0kv.nl  Mon Oct  1 16:25:55 2018
From: pa0kv at pa0kv.nl (pa0kv at pa0kv.nl)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 22:25:55 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem after latest sw update
Message-ID: <4946ccea-282f-1ca7-8b7b-64e09eec7118@pa0kv.nl>

Problem solved!
FTP does not work here anymore due to unknown reasons.
As a result, a much older version of firmware has been installed.
For some unclear reason I kept the old firmware files. But now I moved them
to another folder. I received the latest firmware via email.
After installation, everything works as it should.

Thanks Elecraft/Wayne!

73s, Twan - PA0KV    http://www.pa0kv.nl



From rstealey at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  1 17:43:50 2018
From: rstealey at hotmail.com (Rick Stealey)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:43:50 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

K2XT here.  Greetings,
We are installing K8DM's brand new KPA1500 here at my qth today replacing a KPA500.
He runs the station remotely from VA; my QTH is in NJ.
(I host the station for him).

So, it is powered up and running.  When not in use it appears as if (according to the manual) it needs to generate a small voltage/current to the rf deck to allow it to function.  No problem, that makes sense.
The problem is, there is a fan running in the power supply, and it is annoying!  The remote station is in a spare bedroom and visiting guests will have to endure this noise.  Plus, I'd like the equipment to go off when it is turned off.  I don't want a fan running 24/365.  Does the PS really generate that much heat that it needs a fan?

This is not acceptable.  Wayne, surely you didn't design it this way.  Surely there is an option we set somewhere to disable the fan.

What say, anyone?

Rick  K2XT

From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk  Mon Oct  1 18:24:51 2018
From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:24:51 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <33ba027f-54ec-c2c1-348e-2155c183e360@triconet.org>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<33ba027f-54ec-c2c1-348e-2155c183e360@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <0aae9d99-1c77-382c-2608-a1ca0b37917a@horizon.co.fk>

No flak, just a comment.

I upgraded my K3 #00345 with available K3s bits. I use the USB interface 
for all K3<>PC communications, CAT and audio for digital modes. I use 
Logger32 with the internal hooks to MMTTY, MMVARI, 2-Tone and GRITTY. 
Logger32 receives logging broadcasts directly from wsjt-x (FT8) without 
the need for additional software and gives me full access to my logbook 
stats. FT8 decodes at -22dB are common.

I use VOX only for CW, everything else is PTT driven, either PC or foot 
switch (SSB). All my data mode audio levels are balanced for TX level 
across the various applications, absolutely no fiddling with my K3 line 
levels are required.

It can be done. I'm still using Win7.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 01/10/2018 17:08, Wes Stewart wrote:
> I had a K3 in service (now a spare) for about 8 years before getting a 
> K3S.? I didn't do WSJT but some RTTY and PSK using the Line In/Out into 
> my Lenovo laptop internal sound card.? Worked like a champ, started with 
> zero and now have 255 countries on RTTY.
> 
> I tried to use the K3S USB sound and got tired of the incessant need to 
> fuss with drive and VOX levels.? I requested many times for firmware 
> that would save VOX settings by mode to no avail. (When I had another 
> issue, Elecraft Support actually told me that they didn't recommend VOX 
> on digital modes.)
> 
> I've returned to using the analog audio in/out of the radio and the 
> laptop sound card, which is higher quality anyway.? (I have a TASCAM 
> US-100, highly recommended by the resident audio guru, but haven't found 
> it to be any advantage.)? This also makes it easier to resort to the 
> spare radio when necessary.
> 
> Wes? N7WS? standing by for the flack from the faithful.
> 

From rstealey at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  1 18:27:00 2018
From: rstealey at hotmail.com (Rick Stealey)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 22:27:00 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply fan
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB434389E5F4DD5CD432D5F23ACEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

We think the solution is to provide 12 vdc into the rem connector from a wall wart and are testing to see if the wart was controlled remotely via an IP switch if it would solve the problem


Rick  K2XT

From dick at elecraft.com  Mon Oct  1 18:30:57 2018
From: dick at elecraft.com (dick at elecraft.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 15:30:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <012201d459d6$6cede370$46c9aa50$@elecraft.com>

If the amp is on, you should be able to press the RF deck "ON" button at the
bottom right of the RF deck front panel, the LEDs and LCD should go dark,
all relays should be released, and power supply fans should stop. The only
visible LED is the green light on the power supply.

Press ON when the amp is off, and it turns on.

When "off", only a small power supply (without fan) provides enough for the
microcontroller to wake up on power button press or a number of other ways
to turn the amp on.

There are a few ways to turn the unit on besides the front panel button.
Supplying 12V to a rear connector, pulling down a pin on the ACC connector,
data from a PC to the USB host port, etc.

If you're supplying 12V to the rear connector, it should turn the amp on
until the 12V drops.  Some people use the 12V RCA output on the K3 (also
used to power the P3) to turn their amp on with the K3.

73 de Dick, K6KR

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Rick Stealey
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 14:44
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan

K2XT here.  Greetings,
We are installing K8DM's brand new KPA1500 here at my qth today replacing a
KPA500.
He runs the station remotely from VA; my QTH is in NJ.
(I host the station for him).

So, it is powered up and running.  When not in use it appears as if
(according to the manual) it needs to generate a small voltage/current to
the rf deck to allow it to function.  No problem, that makes sense.
The problem is, there is a fan running in the power supply, and it is
annoying!  The remote station is in a spare bedroom and visiting guests will
have to endure this noise.  Plus, I'd like the equipment to go off when it
is turned off.  I don't want a fan running 24/365.  Does the PS really
generate that much heat that it needs a fan?

This is not acceptable.  Wayne, surely you didn't design it this way.
Surely there is an option we set somewhere to disable the fan.

What say, anyone?

Rick  K2XT
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From FlatHat at comcast.net  Mon Oct  1 18:38:17 2018
From: FlatHat at comcast.net (Richard)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Those DT Blues
Message-ID: <5C64487B-40A7-4BCA-8C42-4342844D436E@comcast.net>

HARDWARE:
K3s, Mac mini, SignaLink USB (unable to use just an A/B USB cable).

The Mac mini is dedicated to WSJT-X; it isn?t asked to do anything else.

When running FT8 via WSJT-X 1.9.1, I see a wide variety of DT numbers of transmitting stations, everything from minus 1 to plus 2. A friend who is perfection personified reported that my DT is a consistent 0.4 into his gear at his station.

The numbers I see most are 0.0, 0.1, and 0.2. Mister Perfection tells me I?m fine and I shouldn?t worry about it. Is he on target?

If 0.4 means my transmitter begins transmitting 0.4 seconds AFTER the ?official? start of each 13-second transmit segment, does that put me at a disadvantage when calling the same DX along with several others?

When I think about the ?Call 1st? feature of WSJT-X, I wonder ? does that mean the DX?s decoder will process my 0.4 signal AFTER processing all the 0.0, 0.1, and 0.2 signals which it ?sees first?? How does the decoder decide whom to decode and in what order?

Richard Kunc - W4KBX
FlatHat at comcast.net

From tomb18 at videotron.ca  Mon Oct  1 18:42:44 2018
From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:42:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>

No need for VOX, just use software PTT.
Tom

-----Original Message----- 
From: Wes Stewart
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:08 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC

I had a K3 in service (now a spare) for about 8 years before getting a K3S. 
I
didn't do WSJT but some RTTY and PSK using the Line In/Out into my Lenovo 
laptop
internal sound card.  Worked like a champ, started with zero and now have 
255
countries on RTTY.

I tried to use the K3S USB sound and got tired of the incessant need to fuss
with drive and VOX levels.  I requested many times for firmware that would 
save
VOX settings by mode to no avail. (When I had another issue, Elecraft 
Support
actually told me that they didn't recommend VOX on digital modes.)

I've returned to using the analog audio in/out of the radio and the laptop 
sound
card, which is higher quality anyway.  (I have a TASCAM US-100, highly
recommended by the resident audio guru, but haven't found it to be any
advantage.)  This also makes it easier to resort to the spare radio when 
necessary.

Wes  N7WS  standing by for the flack from the faithful.

On 10/1/2018 8:49 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio. 
> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should 
> normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right 
> on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around 
> quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker. 
> I have tried two different computers and the same result.  I tried 
> changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in 
> the problem.  I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless 
> someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I 
> have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply 
> off line if you like.  73 Mike K4PI

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From tomb18 at videotron.ca  Mon Oct  1 18:45:25 2018
From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:45:25 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <70Uqg2kYYAhRJ70Usgfgfq@videotron.ca>
References: <70Uqg2kYYAhRJ70Usgfgfq@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <BBB5D8CD823146ACB35F78914CDE45D0@DESKTOPAV61F2H>

Here's a possibility: RFI.
Wrap your (all!) USB wires through some 2" diameter mix 31 ferrite cores.  7 
or 8 turns will do fine.  Don't run the codecs over a hub.
Turn off all USB power savings as well.
73 Tom

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Greenway
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 11:49 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC

I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio. 
Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan to 
go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how 
to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything in 
the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
Mike K4PI
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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Mon Oct  1 19:42:02 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:42:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
Message-ID: <014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>

The following is nothing personal.

I use AFSK on RTTY.? That's "Audio" FSK.? On SSB, an audio mode, I like 
thousands of other folks, use VOX, not some flaky software PTT.? Why on Earth 
when using a different audio mode should I have to use a different method of T/R 
switching, particularly when the audio signal is a constant level?? Makes 
absolutely no sense to me.

N7WS


On 10/1/2018 3:42 PM, Tom wrote:
> No need for VOX, just use software PTT.
> Tom


From eric at elecraft.com  Mon Oct  1 19:56:48 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:56:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <f0c9c07d-0cb7-c1f8-0fbe-67618aa5cd04@elecraft.com>

The power supply fans always turn off within 10 seconds or so after turning of 
the main RF deck.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Rick Stealey wrote:
> K2XT here.  Greetings,
> We are installing K8DM's brand new KPA1500 here at my qth today replacing a KPA500.
> He runs the station remotely from VA; my QTH is in NJ.
> (I host the station for him).
>
> So, it is powered up and running.  When not in use it appears as if (according to the manual) it needs to generate a small voltage/current to the rf deck to allow it to function.  No problem, that makes sense.
> The problem is, there is a fan running in the power supply, and it is annoying!  The remote station is in a spare bedroom and visiting guests will have to endure this noise.  Plus, I'd like the equipment to go off when it is turned off.  I don't want a fan running 24/365.  Does the PS really generate that much heat that it needs a fan?
>
> This is not acceptable.  Wayne, surely you didn't design it this way.  Surely there is an option we set somewhere to disable the fan.
>
> What say, anyone?
>
> Rick  K2XT
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Oct  1 20:53:16 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:53:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Those DT Blues
In-Reply-To: <5C64487B-40A7-4BCA-8C42-4342844D436E@comcast.net>
References: <5C64487B-40A7-4BCA-8C42-4342844D436E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0da15b9a-19e3-caa8-54ab-2c396605a86f@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/1/2018 3:38 PM, Richard wrote:
> When running FT8 via WSJT-X 1.9.1, I see a wide variety of DT numbers of transmitting stations, everything from minus 1 to plus 2. A friend who is perfection personified reported that my DT is a consistent 0.4 into his gear at his station.

That DT number is the difference between your clock and his. If it were 
off by a second or two, you would see almost all stations off by that 
amount, and in the same direction. If it were off by more than that, you 
would see few decodes at all. 99.9% of my WSJT-X work is on 6M, and I 
rarely see DTs greater than a half second -- most are 0.1 - 0.2. You 
WILL see occasional DTs greater than 1 second.

For many years, I've used this nice little clock utility. Works great. 
Free. http://www.timesynctool.com/

73, Jim K9YC



From ham at odsgc.net  Mon Oct  1 20:57:59 2018
From: ham at odsgc.net (Jim AC0E)
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 19:57:59 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3_EZ by Bill Coleman, N2BC, SK
In-Reply-To: <mailman.872.1538423938.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.872.1538423938.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <16632481dd8.27dd.91274f60ae22af0776e3fe30f1e2796d@odsgc.net>

Mr. Coleman is indeed a SK. I exchanged several emails with Bill with 
regard to K3_EZ. He told me he had severe health issues the past several 
years and was unable to continue his involvement developing K3_EZ.
Bill also told me the source code was lost.
I just checked his QRZ.com page ad it still up and noted with Bill SK in 
August of 2017..
73,
Jim AC0E


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>   1. K3 Stuck in MCU Load (Mike Cizek W0VTT)
>   2. Re: OT - backup software (Dick Green WC1M)
>   3. Re: RRC/K3 RTTY issue (Nr4c)
>   4. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load (RIchard Williams)
>   5. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED (Mike Cizek W0VTT)
>   6. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr)
>   7. At Pacificon: 25th anniversary talk about the NorCal 40
>      transceiver & NorCal QRP Club (Giancarlo Moda)
>   8. K3_EZ Installation (Dick Dickinson)
>   9. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Don Wilhelm)
>  10. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Harlan Sherriff)
>  11. K3_EZ Installation (Dick Dickinson)
>  12. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevinr)
>  13. Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live (John Dolan)
>  14. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Rick WA6NHC)
>  15. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Jim McDonald)
>  16. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Jim McDonald)
>  17. Re: Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live (Ken G Kopp)
>  18. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED (John_N1JM)
>  19. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED (John_N1JM)
>  20. KAT500 For Sale (Bob Witmer)
>  21. CODEC (Mike Greenway)
>  22. Re: Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live (David Olean)
>  23. Re: CODEC (ROBERT MUELLER)
>  24. Re: CODEC (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  25. Re: CODEC (Rick Bates (WA6NHC))
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:44:46 -0500
> From: "Mike Cizek W0VTT" <mgcizek at gmail.com>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
> Message-ID: <89B2E43C942241F8AED28A2534CB6BFF at X230>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Greetings -
>
> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.  While updating the firmware,
> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the mouse
> buttons.  The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>
> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB connection
> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.  Computer
> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>
> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.  I
> tried:
>
> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the EE
> INIT message.
> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>
> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.  Any
> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?  Thanks.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:50:33 -0400
> From: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73 at gmail.com>
> To: "'John Saxon'" <johnbsaxon at yahoo.com>,	"'Elecraft Reflector'"
> 	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
> Message-ID: <000001d4583e$7361e880$5a25b980$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> I use EaseUS. It's a complete package with options for scheduled full 
> backup, incremental backups, continuous backup, disk image, etc. Also can 
> be used to clone disks.
>
> Acronis is a very popular backup package for Windows. I used to use it but 
> had several mishaps, including not being able to read old backups. Haven't 
> tried it in a long time.
>
> I have EaseUS setup to do a full backup on each disk in my system on the 
> first day of the month, and incremental backups on each disk once a day. 
> The backups are written to a hard drive in a USB dock. I have a set of five 
> of these disks and rotate to the next drive after the last incremental 
> backup of the month. Whenever I visit my safe deposit box, I put one of the 
> disks in the box and retrieve the one that I put in the box last time. That 
> way, I have an offsite backup in case of disaster. It might be a little 
> old, but better than nothing.
>
> Further, I have Windows 10 on and SSD and all of my critical data on a 
> separate SSD, including work files, spreadsheets, Quicken data, all my ham 
> radio data (e.g., contest logs), and so forth. This data is continuously 
> copied to the cloud and synced with all my devices so that I have multiple 
> copies of it, including the versions in the hard drive backup rotation. 
> There are many cloud services that can be used for this, but I use 
> Microsoft OneDrive because I get 1 TB of storage free with my subscription 
> to Office 365. It helps to have very high speed internet with fast upload 
> speed (75/15 here, but usually it's more like 90/20.)
>
> When apps allow it, I configure them to keep user-specific data on my user 
> data drive. I also try to get them to save their configuration data to my 
> data drive. Unfortunately, some apps don't let you change their data and/or 
> configuration locations. These days it's often in C:\Users\<your user 
> ID>\AppData. I have to be content with that data being backed up to local 
> hard drives only.
>
> I've also configured Windows to do a scheduled System Restore Point each 
> day, but it doesn't always work. Typically it's done when updates are 
> applied and sometimes when apps are installed. When I remember, I do one 
> manually. These restore points can be crucial if your system gets messed up 
> by a hardware failure or problem with a Windows update.
>
> As you can tell, I'm a proponent of belt-and-suspenders backups. I've been 
> burned many times, going back as far as 1972. First casualty was a term 
> paper, back when most college students used typewriters and virtually no 
> one would have tried to type a paper into a computer. The professor didn't 
> believe me when I told him that a poor design in the syntax of the user 
> interface caused me to accidentally erase the paper. He looked at me like 
> I'd told him my dog ate my homework.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Saxon <johnbsaxon at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:05 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
>
> I am not happy with my current backup software package.  Any 
> recommendations on backup software?  Like it to be free, but not necessary.
> 73,JohnK5ENQ
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:16:43 -0400
> From: Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com>
> To: John Baumgarten <johnbaumgarten1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RRC/K3 RTTY issue
> Message-ID: <54955009-17E0-4738-9A60-E1885645348E at widomaker.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
>
> Check DATA sub-mode.  Do you want FSK-D or AFSK?
>
> Sounds like you have set FSK-D and need AFSK.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 4:37 PM, John Baumgarten <johnbaumgarten1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> After not trying RTTY for a while, can?t get it working with my two K3 RRC 
>> set up on RTTY. No problem decoding and prints out fine using N1MM/MMTTY. 
>> Just can?t tx!  Get a low solid tone. The correct macro is printing on 
>> screen?no diddling!  Must be something simple I set up wrong?  Mini USB to 
>> computer is connected!  Any ideas, please. Thanks
>> John, N0IJ
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC)
> From: RIchard Williams <richarddw1945 at yahoo.com>
> To: "mgcizek at gmail.com" <mgcizek at gmail.com>,
> 	"elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
> Message-ID: <2045208908.1542728.1538266859473 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either 
> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and 
> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.? 
> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the 
> firmware, move the switch back to the other position.
> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board 
> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will 
> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
> I had the same issue awhile back.
> Dick, K8ZTT
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>  On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT<mgcizek at gmail.com> wrote:   
>  Greetings -
>
> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the firmware,
> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the mouse
> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>
> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB connection
> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.? Computer
> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>
> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.? I
> tried:
>
> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the EE
> INIT message.
> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>
> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.? Any
> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:03:32 -0500
> From: "Mike Cizek W0VTT" <mgcizek at gmail.com>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED
> Message-ID: <9C5A7D3C0DC84B3DBA404EAD4D5194ED at X230>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Many thanks for all the replies.  K8ZTT had the correct answer and I am now
> up and running again.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
> ________________________________________
> From: RIchard Williams [mailto:richarddw1945 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 19:21
> To: mgcizek at gmail.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
>
> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either
> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and
> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.?
> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the firmware,
> move the switch back to the other position.
>
> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board
> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will
> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
>
> I had the same issue awhile back.
>
> Dick, K8ZTT
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT
> <mgcizek at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings -
>
> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the firmware,
> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the mouse
> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>
> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB connection
> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.? Computer
> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>
> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.? I
> tried:
>
> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the EE
> INIT message.
> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>
> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.? Any
> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:08:17 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
> Message-ID: <180728e7-41c4-7ae8-35b3-8b2cc17321cd at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Good Evening,
>
> ?? The sun remains quiet.? The lower noise floor helps copy of weaker
> signals.? There is still a solar breeze feeding ions through the cracks
> in our magnetic field.? Whatever it takes.
>
> ?? Some of the trees are turning color lower down the mountain. Up here
> only the shrubs change color, the alder leaves turn brown and fall off.?
> I guess that's a color change.? But the vine maple turn a bright red
> which contrasts nicely with the green of the fir forests.
>
> ? The elk are still shredding trees shining up their antlers while the
> elk hunters drive all over trying to find them.? The clear cut half a
> mile away is forcing the game to move off.? The bountiful bear berries
> are raising a fine crop of grouse.? They keep my heart well exercised
> every time I kick one of more into flight.? I know where they live you'd
> think I'd get used to them flushing.
>
> ?? 7047 kHz worked well last week so I'll try it again.
>
> Please join us tomorrow on:
>
> 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
> ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)
>
> 73,
> Kevin. KD5ONS
>
> _
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:48:22 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Giancarlo Moda <i7swx at yahoo.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] At Pacificon: 25th anniversary talk about the
> 	NorCal 40 transceiver & NorCal QRP Club
> Message-ID: <1499970558.1567534.1538304502724 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Wayne,
> congratulations for the talk about the NorCal 40 RTX quarter of a century 
> story. After Pacificon the presentation will be made available on a web 
> site and/or downloadable? There is always something to learn.
> Thanks and 73
> GianI7SWX
>
>
> |  | Mail priva di virus. www.avast.com  |
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:37:47 -0400
> From: "Dick Dickinson" <softblue at windstream.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <000001d458fd$72bff560$583fe020$@windstream.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>
>
>
> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>
>
>
> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>
>
>
> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>
>
> Specific instructions will be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:04:39 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: Dick Dickinson <softblue at windstream.net>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <db6ae8e3-157c-098a-dc9a-06d8bacf3566 at embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Dick,
>
> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>
>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>>
>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>
>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:07:38 -0400
> From: Harlan Sherriff <hsherriff at reagan.com>
> To: donwilh at embarqmail.com
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net, Dick Dickinson <softblue at windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <EE9FA245-C6BA-4E1B-B114-1BE12547A241 at reagan.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>
> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dick,
>>
>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
>>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
>>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
>>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
>>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>> Message delivered to hsherriff at reagan.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:38:31 -0400
> From: "Dick Dickinson" <softblue at windstream.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <000a01d45916$b2490730$16db1590$@windstream.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks, Don and Harlan,
>
>
>
> It seems that running the setup routine as Administrator did the trick.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Dick,
>
>>
>
>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>
>>
>
>> 73,
>
>> Don W3FPR
>
>>
>
>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>
>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>
>>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>
>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and
> a
>
>>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder
> is
>
>>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a
> Resources
>
>>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>
>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder
> to
>
>>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>
>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and
> .NET
>
>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:11:23 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
> Message-ID: <035b93f5-9ab7-5dfe-9b12-25c70360191c at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Good Evening,
>
> ??? I searched up and down on the forty meter band to find an
> unoccupied frequency.? From 7030 to 7070 kHz there was a swath of RTTY
> folks tweedeling away.? Oh well, the band sounded good though which
> bodes well for the future.
>
>
> ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
>
> W0CZ - Ken - ND
>
> AB9V - Mike - IN
>
> K6XK - Roy - IA
>
> K4JPN - Steve - GA
>
>
> ? Twenty meters was very quiet today with mild and slow QSB. Everyone I
> could hear was good copy even if the signals dropped below S0.? Forty
> meters also sounded good filled with RTTY signals of various strength
> levels.? There was a little storm noise there too.
>
> ?? Tomorrow the falling trees will awaken me a little after dawn.? This
> logging company falls trees the old fashioned way: with saws so they use
> natural light.? Larger companies have a variety of large falling
> equipment which have lots of lights attached.? They start work two to
> three hours before dawn to take advantage of the moisture.? I'm glad
> these guys let me sleep late :)
>
> ?? Until next week 73,
>
> ????? Kevin.
>
>
> KD5ONS
>
> -
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:52:35 -0400
> From: John Dolan <john.dolan55 at gmail.com>
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
> Message-ID: <60FC5311-8465-4833-B7C4-5110457015D1 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>
> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string 
> Bender works.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:15:56 -0700
> From: Rick WA6NHC <wa6nhc at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <8b068f91-00f0-fc19-a592-84359535a062 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I will submit that if this is required by ANY software, that it isn't
> packaged correctly.? An elevated installer should be used and installing
> as admin is generally a really bad idea.? There are a few exceptions
> only.? Install normally, K3_EZ will install correctly.
>
>
> Rick nhc
>
>
> On 9/30/2018 4:07 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote:
>> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>>>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
>>>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
>>>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
>>>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
>>>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
>>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>
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>>> Message delivered to hsherriff at reagan.com
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:24:28 -0500
> From: "Jim McDonald" <jim at n7us.net>
> To: "'Rick WA6NHC'" <wa6nhc at gmail.com>,	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <016901d45925$7fcb7810$7f626830$@n7us.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> I noticed some bugs with that version of K3_EZ.  I think they were in 
> saving TQ EQ settings, but I don't remember for sure.  The 2005 or 2007 
> versions didn't have those bugs.
>
> I believe the developer is a SK.
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I will submit that if this is required by ANY software, that it isn't 
> packaged correctly.  An elevated installer should be used and installing as 
> admin is generally a really bad idea.  There are a few exceptions only.  
> Install normally, K3_EZ will install correctly.
>
>
> Rick nhc
>
>
> On 9/30/2018 4:07 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote:
>> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending
>>>> the installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe,
>>>> K3_EZ.application and a folder of Application Files.  Further inside
>>>> the Application Files folder is another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which
>>>> contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources folder and several .deploy file and 
>>>> one .manifest file.
>>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip
>>>> folder to and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0
>>>> and .NET
>>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:26:33 -0500
> From: "Jim McDonald" <jim at n7us.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <018601d45925$ca79f800$5f6de800$@n7us.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Sorry, I meant TX EQ.
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I noticed some bugs with that version of K3_EZ.  I think they were in saving
> TQ EQ settings, but I don't remember for sure.  The 2005 or 2007 versions
> didn't have those bugs.
>
> I believe the developer is a SK.
>
> Jim N7US
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:31:13 -0600
> From: Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com>
> To: John Dolan <john.dolan55 at gmail.com>, Elecraft
> 	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAD4CdTMpqq1nw=mE-4n9Qa=pDq4hip7vrV1W9=CmtS639P5X1A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> John, did you intend to send this to the reflector?
>
> 73 !
>
> K0PP
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 18:53 John Dolan <john.dolan55 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string
>> Bender works.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:38:40 -0700 (MST)
> From: John_N1JM <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED
> Message-ID: <1538361520375-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> What was the answer? Didn't show up on the reflector.
>
> John N1JM
>
>
> Mike Cizek W0VTT wrote
>> Many thanks for all the replies.  K8ZTT had the correct answer and I am
>> now
>> up and running again.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>> ________________________________________
>> From: RIchard Williams [mailto:
>
>> richarddw1945@
>
>> ]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 19:21
>> To:
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> ;
>
>> elecraft at .qth
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
>>
>> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either
>> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and
>> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.?
>> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the
>> firmware,
>> move the switch back to the other position.
>>
>> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board
>> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will
>> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
>>
>> I had the same issue awhile back.
>>
>> Dick, K8ZTT
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT
>> &lt;
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> &gt; wrote:
>> Greetings -
>>
>> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the
>> firmware,
>> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the
>> mouse
>> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
>> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>>
>> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB
>> connection
>> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.?
>> Computer
>> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>>
>> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.?
>> I
>> tried:
>>
>> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
>> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
>> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
>> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the
>> EE
>> INIT message.
>> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
>> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>>
>> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.?
>> Any
>> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>
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>
>>
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>
>> richarddw1945@
>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> Post: mailto:
>
>> Elecraft at .qth
>
>>
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>
>> lists+1215531472858-365791 at .nabble
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>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:41:04 -0700 (MST)
> From: John_N1JM <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED
> Message-ID: <1538361664631-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Whoops! It is there.Sorry.
>
> John N1JM
>
>
> Mike Cizek W0VTT wrote
>> Many thanks for all the replies.  K8ZTT had the correct answer and I am
>> now
>> up and running again.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>> ________________________________________
>> From: RIchard Williams [mailto:
>
>> richarddw1945@
>
>> ]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 19:21
>> To:
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> ;
>
>> elecraft at .qth
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
>>
>> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either
>> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and
>> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.?
>> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the
>> firmware,
>> move the switch back to the other position.
>>
>> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board
>> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will
>> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
>>
>> I had the same issue awhile back.
>>
>> Dick, K8ZTT
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT
>> &lt;
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> &gt; wrote:
>> Greetings -
>>
>> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the
>> firmware,
>> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the
>> mouse
>> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
>> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>>
>> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB
>> connection
>> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.?
>> Computer
>> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>>
>> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.?
>> I
>> tried:
>>
>> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
>> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
>> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
>> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the
>> EE
>> INIT message.
>> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
>> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>>
>> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.?
>> Any
>> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 10:44:50 -0400
> From: Bob Witmer <witmerjr at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 For Sale
> Message-ID: <C5A78E89-2AC6-4F6B-BC54-E85720E2C0C8 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
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> Hello,
>
> Selling factory assembled SN18XX, KAT500 for friend leaving the hobby for 
> personal reasons.
>
> Was little used with a IC746PRO at a maximum power level of 100 watts or so 
> - only on SSB.
>
> Works great - has latest version 01.75 firmware.
>
> Has a slight scratch on the right side - and a tiny ?smudge? near the back 
> of the top cover.
>
> Includes original Manual, unused KXUSB Interface cable assembly and RCA to 
> RCA PA KEY cable. No original factory shipping box but will be well packed 
> for shipment.
>
> Price: $550 OBO, USPS money order - or check, plus shipping 8 Lbs from 
> 19446.  No PayPal.
>
> Please respond off list - I can send picts if you like.
>
> Thanks & 73
>
> Bob W3RW
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:49:24 -0400
> From: "Mike Greenway" <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC at SHACK>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="Windows-1252"
>
> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
> Mike K4PI
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:10:30 +0000
> From: David Olean <k1whs at metrocast.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
> Message-ID: <234eb5de-7eb9-5d9e-bac7-2415bdef8b89 at metrocast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> John,
>
> Thanks for that post.? The B Bender, while not Elecraft related, sure
> was an interesting wrinkle in guitar tech, and all from the minds of
> Clarence White and Gene Parsons.? Clarence White was a huge presence
> tragically cut short at the age of 29.? I learn so much from this reflector.
>
> Dave K1WHS
>
>
>
> On 10/1/2018 12:52 AM, John Dolan wrote:
>> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string 
>> Bender works.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
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> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ROBERT MUELLER <k8rgm at comcast.net>
> To: Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <295732766.33420.1538415370266 at connect.xfinity.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD 
> did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, 
> therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set 
> things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening 
> connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all 
> the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
>> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
>> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
>> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
>> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
>> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
>> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
>> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
>> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
>> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
>> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
>> Mike K4PI
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> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:42:27 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <c945e423-0b08-db30-073e-bac9f788ec92 at blomand.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> While I use both WSJT-X, V1.9.1,? and HRD, I allow WSJT to create and
> save its own log.? Then I transfer the entries from the WSJT log to my
> other log system.? That then uploads the selected entries to LOTW.???
> I've more often than not found that if I allow one software to run
> within or under another software, there's just two many cooks in the
> kitchen tasting the pot.???? In other words, I run WSJT as a stand a
> lone application and do not have any conflicts.? The operating system is
> a current version of Windows 10 with all of their updates.
>
> As suggestions, I would open WSJT as a stand a lone and see if it
> connects to the rig and operates correctly.?? Then close WSJT and open
> HRD using one of its modes, i.e. PSK-31, and see if it operates
> correctly.??? If so on both, and mine does, then there is no specific
> issue with either application or the computer or the radio.?? I use the
> USB communication with my K3S.? Then with both applications running I
> find is the area where the hand shake is supported to occur but indeed a
> fist fight breaks out.?? That says HRD will need to be update in order
> for Windows 10 to handle the activity.? The bottom line, when Microsoft
> updates Windows 10, all other application software is likely in need of
> an update as well.
>
> Good luck in resolving the issue.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 10/1/2018 12:36 PM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
>> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD 
>> did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, 
>> therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set 
>> things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening 
>> connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all 
>> the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
>> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
>>> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
>>> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
>>> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
>>> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
>>> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
>>> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
>>> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
>>> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
>>> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
>>> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
>>> Mike K4PI
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> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:58:51 -0700
> From: "Rick Bates (WA6NHC)" <wa6nhc at gmail.com>
> To: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <ED23ED6D-377E-415B-BBF1-6DD5CE5BB697 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
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> I?ve had zero issues with WSJT-X over HRD and now that the logging hooks 
> were added to HRD, no more importing logs (or a third party program to link 
> logs) is required.
>
> It just works.
>
> Rick WA6NHC
>
> Smell Czech correction happen
>
>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>>
>> While I use both WSJT-X, V1.9.1,  and HRD, I allow WSJT to create and save 
>> its own log.  Then I transfer the entries from the WSJT log to my other log 
>> system.  That then uploads the selected entries to LOTW.    I've more often 
>> than not found that if I allow one software to run within or under another 
>> software, there's just two many cooks in the kitchen tasting the pot.     
>> In other words, I run WSJT as a stand a lone application and do not have 
>> any conflicts.  The operating system is a current version of Windows 10 
>> with all of their updates.
>>
>> As suggestions, I would open WSJT as a stand a lone and see if it connects 
>> to the rig and operates correctly.   Then close WSJT and open HRD using one 
>> of its modes, i.e. PSK-31, and see if it operates correctly.    If so on 
>> both, and mine does, then there is no specific issue with either 
>> application or the computer or the radio.   I use the USB communication 
>> with my K3S.  Then with both applications running I find is the area where 
>> the hand shake is supported to occur but indeed a fist fight breaks out.   
>> That says HRD will need to be update in order for Windows 10 to handle the 
>> activity.  The bottom line, when Microsoft updates Windows 10, all other 
>> application software is likely in need of an update as well.
>>
>> Good luck in resolving the issue.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>> On 10/1/2018 12:36 PM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
>>> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD 
>>> did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, 
>>> therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set 
>>> things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening 
>>> connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all 
>>> the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
>>> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>>>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
>>>> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
>>>> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
>>>> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
>>>> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
>>>> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
>>>> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
>>>> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
>>>> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
>>>> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
>>>> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
>>>> Mike K4PI
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From charles at k5ua.com  Mon Oct  1 21:51:28 2018
From: charles at k5ua.com (charles at k5ua.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:51:28 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] No Communication with USB Port on KPA-1500
Message-ID: <6d3a017f5604249449c392fefa71081c@k5ua.com>

Must have had a power surge because I can no longer communicate with my 
KPA-1500 on the same virtual com port like I did for about 6 weeks.  
Tried a new USB cable, but that did not work either.  Does connecting 
the KPA-1500 to the computer via a USB cable make a COM port of it's 
own, or must we use a virtual COM port?  If I remember correctly, I 
think I use a Flex Virtual COM port before the power surge?  Or did the 
power surge zap the USB port on the KPA-1500?  Any help appreciated.

Charles  K5UA

From k9yeq at live.com  Mon Oct  1 22:36:28 2018
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 02:36:28 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3_EZ by Bill Coleman, N2BC, SK
In-Reply-To: <16632481dd8.27dd.91274f60ae22af0776e3fe30f1e2796d@odsgc.net>
References: <mailman.872.1538423938.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<16632481dd8.27dd.91274f60ae22af0776e3fe30f1e2796d@odsgc.net>
Message-ID: <SN6PR05MB428807F9BD47BE599E34CA649CE80@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

:-(  Sad to learn.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Jim AC0E
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:58 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ by Bill Coleman, N2BC, SK

Mr. Coleman is indeed a SK. I exchanged several emails with Bill with 
regard to K3_EZ. He told me he had severe health issues the past several 
years and was unable to continue his involvement developing K3_EZ.
Bill also told me the source code was lost.
I just checked his QRZ.com page ad it still up and noted with Bill SK in 
August of 2017..
73,
Jim AC0E


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>   1. K3 Stuck in MCU Load (Mike Cizek W0VTT)
>   2. Re: OT - backup software (Dick Green WC1M)
>   3. Re: RRC/K3 RTTY issue (Nr4c)
>   4. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load (RIchard Williams)
>   5. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED (Mike Cizek W0VTT)
>   6. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr)
>   7. At Pacificon: 25th anniversary talk about the NorCal 40
>      transceiver & NorCal QRP Club (Giancarlo Moda)
>   8. K3_EZ Installation (Dick Dickinson)
>   9. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Don Wilhelm)
>  10. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Harlan Sherriff)
>  11. K3_EZ Installation (Dick Dickinson)
>  12. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevinr)
>  13. Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live (John Dolan)
>  14. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Rick WA6NHC)
>  15. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Jim McDonald)
>  16. Re: K3_EZ Installation (Jim McDonald)
>  17. Re: Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live (Ken G Kopp)
>  18. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED (John_N1JM)
>  19. Re: K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED (John_N1JM)
>  20. KAT500 For Sale (Bob Witmer)
>  21. CODEC (Mike Greenway)
>  22. Re: Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live (David Olean)
>  23. Re: CODEC (ROBERT MUELLER)
>  24. Re: CODEC (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  25. Re: CODEC (Rick Bates (WA6NHC))
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:44:46 -0500
> From: "Mike Cizek W0VTT" <mgcizek at gmail.com>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
> Message-ID: <89B2E43C942241F8AED28A2534CB6BFF at X230>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Greetings -
>
> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.  While updating the firmware,
> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the mouse
> buttons.  The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>
> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB connection
> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.  Computer
> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>
> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.  I
> tried:
>
> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the EE
> INIT message.
> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>
> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.  Any
> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?  Thanks.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:50:33 -0400
> From: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73 at gmail.com>
> To: "'John Saxon'" <johnbsaxon at yahoo.com>,	"'Elecraft Reflector'"
> 	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
> Message-ID: <000001d4583e$7361e880$5a25b980$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> I use EaseUS. It's a complete package with options for scheduled full 
> backup, incremental backups, continuous backup, disk image, etc. Also can 
> be used to clone disks.
>
> Acronis is a very popular backup package for Windows. I used to use it but 
> had several mishaps, including not being able to read old backups. Haven't 
> tried it in a long time.
>
> I have EaseUS setup to do a full backup on each disk in my system on the 
> first day of the month, and incremental backups on each disk once a day. 
> The backups are written to a hard drive in a USB dock. I have a set of five 
> of these disks and rotate to the next drive after the last incremental 
> backup of the month. Whenever I visit my safe deposit box, I put one of the 
> disks in the box and retrieve the one that I put in the box last time. That 
> way, I have an offsite backup in case of disaster. It might be a little 
> old, but better than nothing.
>
> Further, I have Windows 10 on and SSD and all of my critical data on a 
> separate SSD, including work files, spreadsheets, Quicken data, all my ham 
> radio data (e.g., contest logs), and so forth. This data is continuously 
> copied to the cloud and synced with all my devices so that I have multiple 
> copies of it, including the versions in the hard drive backup rotation. 
> There are many cloud services that can be used for this, but I use 
> Microsoft OneDrive because I get 1 TB of storage free with my subscription 
> to Office 365. It helps to have very high speed internet with fast upload 
> speed (75/15 here, but usually it's more like 90/20.)
>
> When apps allow it, I configure them to keep user-specific data on my user 
> data drive. I also try to get them to save their configuration data to my 
> data drive. Unfortunately, some apps don't let you change their data and/or 
> configuration locations. These days it's often in C:\Users\<your user 
> ID>\AppData. I have to be content with that data being backed up to local 
> hard drives only.
>
> I've also configured Windows to do a scheduled System Restore Point each 
> day, but it doesn't always work. Typically it's done when updates are 
> applied and sometimes when apps are installed. When I remember, I do one 
> manually. These restore points can be crucial if your system gets messed up 
> by a hardware failure or problem with a Windows update.
>
> As you can tell, I'm a proponent of belt-and-suspenders backups. I've been 
> burned many times, going back as far as 1972. First casualty was a term 
> paper, back when most college students used typewriters and virtually no 
> one would have tried to type a paper into a computer. The professor didn't 
> believe me when I told him that a poor design in the syntax of the user 
> interface caused me to accidentally erase the paper. He looked at me like 
> I'd told him my dog ate my homework.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Saxon <johnbsaxon at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:05 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
>
> I am not happy with my current backup software package.  Any 
> recommendations on backup software?  Like it to be free, but not necessary.
> 73,JohnK5ENQ
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:16:43 -0400
> From: Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com>
> To: John Baumgarten <johnbaumgarten1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RRC/K3 RTTY issue
> Message-ID: <54955009-17E0-4738-9A60-E1885645348E at widomaker.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
>
> Check DATA sub-mode.  Do you want FSK-D or AFSK?
>
> Sounds like you have set FSK-D and need AFSK.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 4:37 PM, John Baumgarten <johnbaumgarten1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> After not trying RTTY for a while, can?t get it working with my two K3 RRC 
>> set up on RTTY. No problem decoding and prints out fine using N1MM/MMTTY. 
>> Just can?t tx!  Get a low solid tone. The correct macro is printing on 
>> screen?no diddling!  Must be something simple I set up wrong?  Mini USB to 
>> computer is connected!  Any ideas, please. Thanks
>> John, N0IJ
>>
>> Sent from my I phone
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC)
> From: RIchard Williams <richarddw1945 at yahoo.com>
> To: "mgcizek at gmail.com" <mgcizek at gmail.com>,
> 	"elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
> Message-ID: <2045208908.1542728.1538266859473 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either 
> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and 
> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.? 
> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the 
> firmware, move the switch back to the other position.
> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board 
> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will 
> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
> I had the same issue awhile back.
> Dick, K8ZTT
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>  On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT<mgcizek at gmail.com> wrote:   
>  Greetings -
>
> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the firmware,
> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the mouse
> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>
> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB connection
> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.? Computer
> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>
> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.? I
> tried:
>
> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the EE
> INIT message.
> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>
> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.? Any
> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:03:32 -0500
> From: "Mike Cizek W0VTT" <mgcizek at gmail.com>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED
> Message-ID: <9C5A7D3C0DC84B3DBA404EAD4D5194ED at X230>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Many thanks for all the replies.  K8ZTT had the correct answer and I am now
> up and running again.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
> ________________________________________
> From: RIchard Williams [mailto:richarddw1945 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 19:21
> To: mgcizek at gmail.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
>
> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either
> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and
> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.?
> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the firmware,
> move the switch back to the other position.
>
> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board
> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will
> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
>
> I had the same issue awhile back.
>
> Dick, K8ZTT
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT
> <mgcizek at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings -
>
> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the firmware,
> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the mouse
> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>
> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB connection
> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.? Computer
> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>
> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.? I
> tried:
>
> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the EE
> INIT message.
> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>
> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.? Any
> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>
> --
> 73,
> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:08:17 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
> Message-ID: <180728e7-41c4-7ae8-35b3-8b2cc17321cd at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Good Evening,
>
> ?? The sun remains quiet.? The lower noise floor helps copy of weaker
> signals.? There is still a solar breeze feeding ions through the cracks
> in our magnetic field.? Whatever it takes.
>
> ?? Some of the trees are turning color lower down the mountain. Up here
> only the shrubs change color, the alder leaves turn brown and fall off.?
> I guess that's a color change.? But the vine maple turn a bright red
> which contrasts nicely with the green of the fir forests.
>
> ? The elk are still shredding trees shining up their antlers while the
> elk hunters drive all over trying to find them.? The clear cut half a
> mile away is forcing the game to move off.? The bountiful bear berries
> are raising a fine crop of grouse.? They keep my heart well exercised
> every time I kick one of more into flight.? I know where they live you'd
> think I'd get used to them flushing.
>
> ?? 7047 kHz worked well last week so I'll try it again.
>
> Please join us tomorrow on:
>
> 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
> ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)
>
> 73,
> Kevin. KD5ONS
>
> _
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:48:22 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Giancarlo Moda <i7swx at yahoo.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] At Pacificon: 25th anniversary talk about the
> 	NorCal 40 transceiver & NorCal QRP Club
> Message-ID: <1499970558.1567534.1538304502724 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Wayne,
> congratulations for the talk about the NorCal 40 RTX quarter of a century 
> story. After Pacificon the presentation will be made available on a web 
> site and/or downloadable? There is always something to learn.
> Thanks and 73
> GianI7SWX
>
>
> |  | Mail priva di virus. www.avast.com  |
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:37:47 -0400
> From: "Dick Dickinson" <softblue at windstream.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <000001d458fd$72bff560$583fe020$@windstream.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>
>
>
> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>
>
>
> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>
>
>
> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>
>
> Specific instructions will be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:04:39 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: Dick Dickinson <softblue at windstream.net>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <db6ae8e3-157c-098a-dc9a-06d8bacf3566 at embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Dick,
>
> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>
>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>>
>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>
>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:07:38 -0400
> From: Harlan Sherriff <hsherriff at reagan.com>
> To: donwilh at embarqmail.com
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net, Dick Dickinson <softblue at windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <EE9FA245-C6BA-4E1B-B114-1BE12547A241 at reagan.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>
> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dick,
>>
>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
>>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
>>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
>>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
>>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:38:31 -0400
> From: "Dick Dickinson" <softblue at windstream.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <000a01d45916$b2490730$16db1590$@windstream.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks, Don and Harlan,
>
>
>
> It seems that running the setup routine as Administrator did the trick.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Dick,
>
>>
>
>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>
>>
>
>> 73,
>
>> Don W3FPR
>
>>
>
>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>
>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>
>>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>
>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and
> a
>
>>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder
> is
>
>>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a
> Resources
>
>>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>
>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder
> to
>
>>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>
>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and
> .NET
>
>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:11:23 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
> Message-ID: <035b93f5-9ab7-5dfe-9b12-25c70360191c at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Good Evening,
>
> ??? I searched up and down on the forty meter band to find an
> unoccupied frequency.? From 7030 to 7070 kHz there was a swath of RTTY
> folks tweedeling away.? Oh well, the band sounded good though which
> bodes well for the future.
>
>
> ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
>
> W0CZ - Ken - ND
>
> AB9V - Mike - IN
>
> K6XK - Roy - IA
>
> K4JPN - Steve - GA
>
>
> ? Twenty meters was very quiet today with mild and slow QSB. Everyone I
> could hear was good copy even if the signals dropped below S0.? Forty
> meters also sounded good filled with RTTY signals of various strength
> levels.? There was a little storm noise there too.
>
> ?? Tomorrow the falling trees will awaken me a little after dawn.? This
> logging company falls trees the old fashioned way: with saws so they use
> natural light.? Larger companies have a variety of large falling
> equipment which have lots of lights attached.? They start work two to
> three hours before dawn to take advantage of the moisture.? I'm glad
> these guys let me sleep late :)
>
> ?? Until next week 73,
>
> ????? Kevin.
>
>
> KD5ONS
>
> -
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:52:35 -0400
> From: John Dolan <john.dolan55 at gmail.com>
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
> Message-ID: <60FC5311-8465-4833-B7C4-5110457015D1 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>
> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string 
> Bender works.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:15:56 -0700
> From: Rick WA6NHC <wa6nhc at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <8b068f91-00f0-fc19-a592-84359535a062 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I will submit that if this is required by ANY software, that it isn't
> packaged correctly.? An elevated installer should be used and installing
> as admin is generally a really bad idea.? There are a few exceptions
> only.? Install normally, K3_EZ will install correctly.
>
>
> Rick nhc
>
>
> On 9/30/2018 4:07 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote:
>> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending the
>>>> installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe, K3_EZ.application and a
>>>> folder of Application Files.  Further inside the Application Files folder is
>>>> another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources
>>>> folder and several .deploy file and one .manifest file.
>>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip folder to
>>>> and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0 and .NET
>>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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>>> Message delivered to hsherriff at reagan.com
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:24:28 -0500
> From: "Jim McDonald" <jim at n7us.net>
> To: "'Rick WA6NHC'" <wa6nhc at gmail.com>,	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <016901d45925$7fcb7810$7f626830$@n7us.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> I noticed some bugs with that version of K3_EZ.  I think they were in 
> saving TQ EQ settings, but I don't remember for sure.  The 2005 or 2007 
> versions didn't have those bugs.
>
> I believe the developer is a SK.
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I will submit that if this is required by ANY software, that it isn't 
> packaged correctly.  An elevated installer should be used and installing as 
> admin is generally a really bad idea.  There are a few exceptions only.  
> Install normally, K3_EZ will install correctly.
>
>
> Rick nhc
>
>
> On 9/30/2018 4:07 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote:
>> You may have to right-click the .exe file and run as administrator
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> I would recommend you unzip it to a new folder and then run the setup.exe.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2018 4:37 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>>>> I'm on a recent Windows 10 fresh build.  I'm not quite comprehending
>>>> the installation process for K3_EZ V8.
>>>> I have a zipped file which contains an a setup.exe,
>>>> K3_EZ.application and a folder of Application Files.  Further inside
>>>> the Application Files folder is another, K3_EZ_2_0_0_7 folder which
>>>> contains K3_EZ.application, a Resources folder and several .deploy file and 
>>>> one .manifest file.
>>>> It is not clear to me where to unzip the original K3_EZ_V2008.zip
>>>> folder to and precisely what to do with the contents.
>>>> What I've done so far seems to yield failure.  I do have .NET 2.0
>>>> and .NET
>>>> 3.0 (combined as .NET 3.5, I believe) installed.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:26:33 -0500
> From: "Jim McDonald" <jim at n7us.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ Installation
> Message-ID: <018601d45925$ca79f800$5f6de800$@n7us.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Sorry, I meant TX EQ.
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I noticed some bugs with that version of K3_EZ.  I think they were in saving
> TQ EQ settings, but I don't remember for sure.  The 2005 or 2007 versions
> didn't have those bugs.
>
> I believe the developer is a SK.
>
> Jim N7US
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:31:13 -0600
> From: Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com>
> To: John Dolan <john.dolan55 at gmail.com>, Elecraft
> 	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAD4CdTMpqq1nw=mE-4n9Qa=pDq4hip7vrV1W9=CmtS639P5X1A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> John, did you intend to send this to the reflector?
>
> 73 !
>
> K0PP
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 18:53 John Dolan <john.dolan55 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string
>> Bender works.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
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>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:38:40 -0700 (MST)
> From: John_N1JM <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED
> Message-ID: <1538361520375-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> What was the answer? Didn't show up on the reflector.
>
> John N1JM
>
>
> Mike Cizek W0VTT wrote
>> Many thanks for all the replies.  K8ZTT had the correct answer and I am
>> now
>> up and running again.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>> ________________________________________
>> From: RIchard Williams [mailto:
>
>> richarddw1945@
>
>> ]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 19:21
>> To:
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> ;
>
>> elecraft at .qth
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
>>
>> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either
>> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and
>> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.?
>> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the
>> firmware,
>> move the switch back to the other position.
>>
>> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board
>> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will
>> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
>>
>> I had the same issue awhile back.
>>
>> Dick, K8ZTT
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT
>> &lt;
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> &gt; wrote:
>> Greetings -
>>
>> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the
>> firmware,
>> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the
>> mouse
>> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
>> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>>
>> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB
>> connection
>> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.?
>> Computer
>> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>>
>> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.?
>> I
>> tried:
>>
>> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
>> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
>> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
>> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the
>> EE
>> INIT message.
>> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
>> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>>
>> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.?
>> Any
>> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:41:04 -0700 (MST)
> From: John_N1JM <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load - SOLVED
> Message-ID: <1538361664631-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Whoops! It is there.Sorry.
>
> John N1JM
>
>
> Mike Cizek W0VTT wrote
>> Many thanks for all the replies.  K8ZTT had the correct answer and I am
>> now
>> up and running again.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>> ________________________________________
>> From: RIchard Williams [mailto:
>
>> richarddw1945@
>
>> ]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 19:21
>> To:
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> ;
>
>> elecraft at .qth
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stuck in MCU Load
>>
>> IF you are using the USB connection to the computer, you need to either
>> switch to the RS 232 port and use that;? OR take the cover off the K3 and
>> move the little slide switch on the KIO3B board to the opposite position.?
>> You can then use the USB method.? ?After you have re-installed the
>> firmware,
>> move the switch back to the other position.
>>
>> IF your KIO3B board does not have the small switch,? it is an older board
>> and you have to use a RS232 cable.? Check with Elecraft, and they will
>> probably switch boards to the newer one with the switch.
>>
>> I had the same issue awhile back.
>>
>> Dick, K8ZTT
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:45, Mike Cizek W0VTT
>> &lt;
>
>> mgcizek@
>
>> &gt; wrote:
>> Greetings -
>>
>> I appear to have really #@(*)(*%&ed up my K3.? While updating the
>> firmware,
>> I accidentally hit either a key on the computer keyboard or one of the
>> mouse
>> buttons.? The K3 Utility window "grayed out" and the K3 is stuck in MCU
>> Load, no backlight, TX LED flashing.
>>
>> Setup: Astron 50A PSU; K3 # 2768 with new KIO3B board; direct USB
>> connection
>> to Lenovo Thinkpad running WIN7 Home Premium; K3 Util v 1.16.7.25.?
>> Computer
>> and K3 Utility both recognize the COM port; latest FTDI drivers installed.
>>
>> Yes, I know there is supposed to be a cure for this, but it didn't work.?
>> I
>> tried:
>>
>> 1. Restarting both the computer and the K3 a few times.
>> 2. Remove & reconnect power supply from K3, hold POWER button to force it
>> into bootloader mode. (which it is already in)
>> 3. Factory reset (power on while holding SHIFT/LO button). Never got the
>> EE
>> INIT message.
>> 4. Uninstall and re-install K3 Utility and try 1-3 again.
>> 5. Uninstall and re-install front panel assembly; try 1-3 again.
>>
>> K3 Utility is still trying to connect and the TX LED is still flashing.?
>> Any
>> ideas before I call tech support on Monday?? Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Mike Cizek W?VTT
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 10:44:50 -0400
> From: Bob Witmer <witmerjr at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 For Sale
> Message-ID: <C5A78E89-2AC6-4F6B-BC54-E85720E2C0C8 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
>
> Hello,
>
> Selling factory assembled SN18XX, KAT500 for friend leaving the hobby for 
> personal reasons.
>
> Was little used with a IC746PRO at a maximum power level of 100 watts or so 
> - only on SSB.
>
> Works great - has latest version 01.75 firmware.
>
> Has a slight scratch on the right side - and a tiny ?smudge? near the back 
> of the top cover.
>
> Includes original Manual, unused KXUSB Interface cable assembly and RCA to 
> RCA PA KEY cable. No original factory shipping box but will be well packed 
> for shipment.
>
> Price: $550 OBO, USPS money order - or check, plus shipping 8 Lbs from 
> 19446.  No PayPal.
>
> Please respond off list - I can send picts if you like.
>
> Thanks & 73
>
> Bob W3RW
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:49:24 -0400
> From: "Mike Greenway" <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC at SHACK>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="Windows-1252"
>
> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
> Mike K4PI
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:10:30 +0000
> From: David Olean <k1whs at metrocast.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling live
> Message-ID: <234eb5de-7eb9-5d9e-bac7-2415bdef8b89 at metrocast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for that post.? The B Bender, while not Elecraft related, sure
> was an interesting wrinkle in guitar tech, and all from the minds of
> Clarence White and Gene Parsons.? Clarence White was a huge presence
> tragically cut short at the age of 29.? I learn so much from this reflector.
>
> Dave K1WHS
>
>
>
> On 10/1/2018 12:52 AM, John Dolan wrote:
>> Notice how Bernie pulls his left shoulder and you can see how the B string 
>> Bender works.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZn1KBzdeI&list=RDR4qHhFuxFpw&index=6
>> ______________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ROBERT MUELLER <k8rgm at comcast.net>
> To: Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <295732766.33420.1538415370266 at connect.xfinity.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD 
> did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, 
> therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set 
> things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening 
> connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all 
> the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
>> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
>> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
>> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
>> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
>> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
>> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
>> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
>> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
>> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
>> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
>> Mike K4PI
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:42:27 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <c945e423-0b08-db30-073e-bac9f788ec92 at blomand.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> While I use both WSJT-X, V1.9.1,? and HRD, I allow WSJT to create and
> save its own log.? Then I transfer the entries from the WSJT log to my
> other log system.? That then uploads the selected entries to LOTW.???
> I've more often than not found that if I allow one software to run
> within or under another software, there's just two many cooks in the
> kitchen tasting the pot.???? In other words, I run WSJT as a stand a
> lone application and do not have any conflicts.? The operating system is
> a current version of Windows 10 with all of their updates.
>
> As suggestions, I would open WSJT as a stand a lone and see if it
> connects to the rig and operates correctly.?? Then close WSJT and open
> HRD using one of its modes, i.e. PSK-31, and see if it operates
> correctly.??? If so on both, and mine does, then there is no specific
> issue with either application or the computer or the radio.?? I use the
> USB communication with my K3S.? Then with both applications running I
> find is the area where the hand shake is supported to occur but indeed a
> fist fight breaks out.?? That says HRD will need to be update in order
> for Windows 10 to handle the activity.? The bottom line, when Microsoft
> updates Windows 10, all other application software is likely in need of
> an update as well.
>
> Good luck in resolving the issue.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 10/1/2018 12:36 PM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
>> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD 
>> did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, 
>> therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set 
>> things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening 
>> connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all 
>> the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
>> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
>>> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
>>> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
>>> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
>>> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
>>> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
>>> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
>>> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
>>> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
>>> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
>>> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
>>> Mike K4PI
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:58:51 -0700
> From: "Rick Bates (WA6NHC)" <wa6nhc at gmail.com>
> To: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> Message-ID: <ED23ED6D-377E-415B-BBF1-6DD5CE5BB697 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
>
> I?ve had zero issues with WSJT-X over HRD and now that the logging hooks 
> were added to HRD, no more importing logs (or a third party program to link 
> logs) is required.
>
> It just works.
>
> Rick WA6NHC
>
> Smell Czech correction happen
>
>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>>
>> While I use both WSJT-X, V1.9.1,  and HRD, I allow WSJT to create and save 
>> its own log.  Then I transfer the entries from the WSJT log to my other log 
>> system.  That then uploads the selected entries to LOTW.    I've more often 
>> than not found that if I allow one software to run within or under another 
>> software, there's just two many cooks in the kitchen tasting the pot.     
>> In other words, I run WSJT as a stand a lone application and do not have 
>> any conflicts.  The operating system is a current version of Windows 10 
>> with all of their updates.
>>
>> As suggestions, I would open WSJT as a stand a lone and see if it connects 
>> to the rig and operates correctly.   Then close WSJT and open HRD using one 
>> of its modes, i.e. PSK-31, and see if it operates correctly.    If so on 
>> both, and mine does, then there is no specific issue with either 
>> application or the computer or the radio.   I use the USB communication 
>> with my K3S.  Then with both applications running I find is the area where 
>> the hand shake is supported to occur but indeed a fist fight breaks out.   
>> That says HRD will need to be update in order for Windows 10 to handle the 
>> activity.  The bottom line, when Microsoft updates Windows 10, all other 
>> application software is likely in need of an update as well.
>>
>> Good luck in resolving the issue.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>> On 10/1/2018 12:36 PM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
>>> Mike, I would be interested in what you find.  Since Microsoft and then HRD 
>>> did upgrades I have not been able to get WSJT to work with HRD and my K3S, 
>>> therefore, the logging from FT* to HRD will not work.  When I try to set 
>>> things up I get a message:   Hamlib error: IO error while opening 
>>> connection to rig.  I am running a USB cable which worked fine until all 
>>> the upgrades.  Very interested in what you find.
>>> Bob, k8rgm at comcast.net
>>>> On October 1, 2018 at 11:49 AM Mike Greenway <K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.  
>>>> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the 
>>>> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally 
>>>> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 
>>>> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often 
>>>> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried 
>>>> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample 
>>>> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan 
>>>> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on 
>>>> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything 
>>>> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73 
>>>> Mike K4PI
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>>
>>
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From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 01:47:11 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 22:47:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
	<014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>

While thousands may use VOX, at least thousands use PTT.? One reason is 
that sound cards are rarely response flat, so the levels will change 
according to the frequency of the tone.? This means that the VOX may/not 
be activated by the current tone or may not hold if on the edge of the 
required level.? If you never change the frequency of the tones (as in 
point and click PSK or by using FT8 in DXpedition/split mode) it may not 
be an issue for you.? I've found it to be less reliable than PTT.

I rarely use VOX at all (except on CW for full break in), if only to 
keep background noises (other radios for example) from making it 
complicated.

Software PTT is not flaky.? That is insulting to both the software 
authors and those that designed the radio to accept the PTT command.? In 
point of fact, it's more reliable than VOX has been because it isn't 
level driven, just simply on or off.

The issues you may have had with PTT could be the virtual ports often in 
play, it's a wonder those work at all.? I use real serial ports, no 
sharing, using the KISS principle and have never had a software PTT 
issue.? I also find real serial ports less RF sensitive (FAR easier to 
shield), therefore more reliable than USB which often locks up in the 
presence of strong RF.

Rick nhc


On 10/1/2018 4:42 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
> The following is nothing personal.
>
> I use AFSK on RTTY.? That's "Audio" FSK.? On SSB, an audio mode, I 
> like thousands of other folks, use VOX, not some flaky software PTT.? 
> Why on Earth when using a different audio mode should I have to use a 
> different method of T/R switching, particularly when the audio signal 
> is a constant level?? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
>
> N7WS
>
>
> On 10/1/2018 3:42 PM, Tom wrote:
>> No need for VOX, just use software PTT.
>> Tom
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Oct  2 04:20:21 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 01:20:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
	<014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
	<854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ef725bc-ff12-5e67-cb0c-28bbb35235e8@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/1/2018 10:47 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> While thousands may use VOX

I'm one of those, and I've done it for many years with everything from 
RTTY to SSB to FT8, JT65, JT9, and MSK144. It works VERY well. It's one 
less connection to worry about, and it works fine. I do a LOT of 
contesting, and a wild guess is that I've done at least 20,00 QSOs this 
way.

If you WANT to use PTT, be my guest, but you're adding un-necessary 
complication to your setup.

73, Jim K9YC


From nr4c at widomaker.com  Tue Oct  2 06:25:45 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:25:45 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] No Communication with USB Port on KPA-1500
In-Reply-To: <6d3a017f5604249449c392fefa71081c@k5ua.com>
References: <6d3a017f5604249449c392fefa71081c@k5ua.com>
Message-ID: <4A3B9A27-9E2B-40DF-8773-0A3967F85431@widomaker.com>

Try support at elecraft.com or a simple phone call. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 1, 2018, at 9:51 PM, charles at k5ua.com wrote:
> 
> Must have had a power surge because I can no longer communicate with my KPA-1500 on the same virtual com port like I did for about 6 weeks.  Tried a new USB cable, but that did not work either.  Does connecting the KPA-1500 to the computer via a USB cable make a COM port of it's own, or must we use a virtual COM port?  If I remember correctly, I think I use a Flex Virtual COM port before the power surge?  Or did the power surge zap the USB port on the KPA-1500?  Any help appreciated.
> 
> Charles  K5UA
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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Tue Oct  2 09:27:28 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:27:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
	<014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
	<854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6fb537b0-2b8e-f2b1-b3a8-826786f527d9@triconet.org>

Good grief.? I was discussing RTTY. Two tones separated by 170 Hz.? Why make it 
so complicated?


On 10/1/2018 10:47 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> While thousands may use VOX, at least thousands use PTT.? One reason is that 
> sound cards are rarely response flat, so the levels will change according to 
> the frequency of the tone.

From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Tue Oct  2 09:28:29 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:28:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <4ef725bc-ff12-5e67-cb0c-28bbb35235e8@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
	<014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
	<854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
	<4ef725bc-ff12-5e67-cb0c-28bbb35235e8@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <52588d83-36a7-90c4-a30f-160b6146e108@triconet.org>

Yep

On 10/2/2018 1:20 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 10/1/2018 10:47 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>> While thousands may use VOX
>
> I'm one of those, and I've done it for many years with everything from RTTY to 
> SSB to FT8, JT65, JT9, and MSK144. It works VERY well. It's one less 
> connection to worry about, and it works fine. I do a LOT of contesting, and a 
> wild guess is that I've done at least 20,00 QSOs this way.
>
> If you WANT to use PTT, be my guest, but you're adding un-necessary 
> complication to your setup.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC


From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 10:12:57 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 07:12:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <52588d83-36a7-90c4-a30f-160b6146e108@triconet.org>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
	<014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
	<854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
	<4ef725bc-ff12-5e67-cb0c-28bbb35235e8@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<52588d83-36a7-90c4-a30f-160b6146e108@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <910a38a2-09e7-e312-5bfc-aca098eb7c9f@gmail.com>

I also use that same serial connection to enable the logging program to 
note the exact frequency in use at the time of the QSO, or to have the 
computer be able to QSY on a mouse click.

It's not a complication, it's a convenience.? In the case of FT8, the 
serial connection is THE way to operate split in DXpedition mode.

Rick nhc


On 10/2/2018 6:28 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:
> Yep
>
> On 10/2/2018 1:20 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 10/1/2018 10:47 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>>> While thousands may use VOX
>>
>> I'm one of those, and I've done it for many years with everything 
>> from RTTY to SSB to FT8, JT65, JT9, and MSK144. It works VERY well. 
>> It's one less connection to worry about, and it works fine. I do a 
>> LOT of contesting, and a wild guess is that I've done at least 20,00 
>> QSOs this way.
>>
>> If you WANT to use PTT, be my guest, but you're adding un-necessary 
>> complication to your setup.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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From fcady at montana.edu  Tue Oct  2 11:07:54 2018
From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:07:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] New KE7X book
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB3973FECA0093D002AE33C321AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Fred, KE7X, and Vic, VE3YT, have announced a new book called ?The Successful Ham Radio Operator?s Handbook ? Best Practices for all Hams?.  This 267 page manual is aimed at the newly licensed ham who is trying to understand where to go next or the old-timer coming back to the hobby and learning about all the changes in radios and modes that have happened during years of inactivity due to a career and family. In it are explanations of how the various parts of the ham radio - the transmitter and receiver - work  plus how these are being implemented using software designed radio technology.  Operating techniques for VHF/UHF repeaters, HF radio DXing techniques, and the new digital modes are covered. Radio propagation, antennas, transmission lines, SWR and the mysteries of baluns are explained. Building your HF station, choosing a radio, connecting your radio to a computer, and mobile and portable operation are extensively covered.  The book follows KE7X's philosophy of presenting material in several forms to accommodate people with different learning styles -- reading, visualizing, hands-on -- with the many figures and text explanations.  There are hands-on exercises throughout the book that can help you learn more about any particular radio.
Please go to www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com> to find more details and to see how this book differs from other introductory books.
Thanks and 73,
Fred KE7X and Vic VE3YT


From fcady at montana.edu  Tue Oct  2 11:16:53 2018
From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:16:53 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB3973A5FAFAB60F96064F91F6AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

www.lulu.com<http://www.lulu.com>  has a 15% discount for print books and calendars active until Oct 4.  Enter the code FIFTEEN when you order a KE7X book at lulu.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


For all KE7X books, see www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>


From ed at w0yk.com  Tue Oct  2 09:32:46 2018
From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed W0YK)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 09:32:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <33ba027f-54ec-c2c1-348e-2155c183e360@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <mailman.24.1538498742.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

My experience differs.
When the K3S came out, I upgraded all my original K3 radios with all the available K3S parts.
I've enjoyed the simplification of the digital audio and the elimination of the Serial-USB adapter.? I seldom adjust the audio levels and certainly no more often than with the analog audio.? Across a weekend RTTY contest there might be a few very minor adjustments from 10 thtough 80 meters.
One annoyance is that the Windows level applet gives only mono adjustment for the K3 stereo LINE OUT but stereo adjustment for the mono LINE IN.? It appears that Windows is choosing stereo Playback control for LINE IN and mono Recording control for LINE OUT.
There must be a way to correct this, but I haven't found it.?
73,Ed W0YK
-------- Original message --------From: Wes Stewart <wes_n7ws at triconet.org> Date: 10/1/18  16:08  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC 
I had a K3 in service (now a spare) for about 8 years before getting a K3S.? I 
didn't do WSJT but some RTTY and PSK using the Line In/Out into my Lenovo laptop 
internal sound card.? Worked like a champ, started with zero and now have 255 
countries on RTTY.

I tried to use the K3S USB sound and got tired of the incessant need to fuss 
with drive and VOX levels.? I requested many times for firmware that would save 
VOX settings by mode to no avail. (When I had another issue, Elecraft Support 
actually told me that they didn't recommend VOX on digital modes.)

I've returned to using the analog audio in/out of the radio and the laptop sound 
card, which is higher quality anyway.? (I have a TASCAM US-100, highly 
recommended by the resident audio guru, but haven't found it to be any 
advantage.)? This also makes it easier to resort to the spare radio when necessary.

Wes? N7WS? standing by for the flack from the faithful.

On 10/1/2018 8:49 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.? Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the radio.? In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000 but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.? I have tried two different computers and the same result.? I tried changing the sample rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.? I plan to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.? I have not found anything in the K3S that might affect this.? You can reply off line if you like.? 73 Mike K4PI

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From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 13:25:19 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:25:19 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <20181002164618.2A44A149B05D@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20181002164618.2A44A149B05D@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <9cb062ac-537d-6b44-0ea4-2e180a151020@gmail.com>

Presuming Windows 10 (previous flavors are similar):

1)? Right click the speaker icon, lower right; select "Open Sound Settings"
2)? When that panel opens, click on "Sound Control Panel"
3)? In playback or recording tab, select the device you want to change 
by double clicking it
4)? In the advanced tab of that device; change the default format to 
single/dual channel(s) and the bit rates desired.
5)? Ok your way back out, done.
6)? Report back to the group.

Mine are all defaulted to two audio channels, even though the mic inputs 
are typically mono only.? What I've found is that the software for 
decoding digital modes, isn't usually refined enough to listen to two 
channels of audio, or just one channel of choice, so dual decoding (one 
channel per receiver) is a challenge.? That isn't often needed for me, 
so it's not a huge issue.

73,
Rick NHC


On 10/2/2018 6:32 AM, Ed W0YK wrote:
> There must be a way to correct this, but I haven't found it.
> 73,Ed W0YK
> -------- Origi


From donanddeena at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  2 13:26:52 2018
From: donanddeena at hotmail.com (Don Schroder)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 17:26:52 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR02MB3973A5FAFAB60F96064F91F6AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB3973A5FAFAB60F96064F91F6AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <MW2PR02MB3849A0E64749F24130C63EF1AAE80@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Fred,

Don?t know what I?m doing wrong, but getting message ? The coupon you entered does not apply to the items in your cart.? when ordering.

Don, KE0PVQ

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Cady, Fred<mailto:fcady at montana.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 10:17 AM
To: Elecraft list<mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu

www.lulu.com<http://www.lulu.com>  has a 15% discount for print books and calendars active until Oct 4.  Enter the code FIFTEEN when you order a KE7X book at lulu.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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From donanddeena at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  2 13:29:11 2018
From: donanddeena at hotmail.com (Don Schroder)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 17:29:11 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu
References: <BYAPR02MB3973A5FAFAB60F96064F91F6AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <MW2PR02MB3849011F6409AAB6FCF9C942AAE80@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Woops. Not valid on ebooks, I ordered the PDF version! My bad.
Don, KE0PVQ

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Don<mailto:donanddeena at hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:27 PM
To: Cady, Fred<mailto:fcady at montana.edu>; Elecraft list<mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu

Fred,

Don?t know what I?m doing wrong, but getting message ? The coupon you entered does not apply to the items in your cart.? when ordering.

Don, KE0PVQ

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Cady, Fred<mailto:fcady at montana.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 10:17 AM
To: Elecraft list<mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu

www.lulu.com<http://www.lulu.com>  has a 15% discount for print books and calendars active until Oct 4.  Enter the code FIFTEEN when you order a KE7X book at lulu.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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From jason at bigscoob.net  Tue Oct  2 13:29:24 2018
From: jason at bigscoob.net (Jason Scobbie)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:29:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR02MB3849A0E64749F24130C63EF1AAE80@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB3973A5FAFAB60F96064F91F6AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<MW2PR02MB3849A0E64749F24130C63EF1AAE80@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <F897D9D5-0707-4BF7-9236-CA2C27E1A1D2@bigscoob.net>

Coupon is only for Printed material not the PDF.



> On Oct 2, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Don Schroder <donanddeena at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fred,
> 
> Don?t know what I?m doing wrong, but getting message ? The coupon you entered does not apply to the items in your cart.? when ordering.
> 
> Don, KE0PVQ
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
> 
> From: Cady, Fred<mailto:fcady at montana.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 10:17 AM
> To: Elecraft list<mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu
> 
> www.lulu.com<http://www.lulu.com>  has a 15% discount for print books and calendars active until Oct 4.  Enter the code FIFTEEN when you order a KE7X book at lulu.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Fred KE7X
> 
> 
> For all KE7X books, see www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>
> 
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From fcady at montana.edu  Tue Oct  2 14:28:47 2018
From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 18:28:47 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu (for pdf)
In-Reply-To: <5d2a07f0-3705-ffab-fbf9-4ba69f4ad3e6@spaceflightsoftware.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB3973A5FAFAB60F96064F91F6AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<9a2ad3ba-34e7-08b4-c181-993654832614@spaceflightsoftware.com>
	<BYAPR02MB3973934B9A4EA9C274851CABAFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>,
	<5d2a07f0-3705-ffab-fbf9-4ba69f4ad3e6@spaceflightsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB3973A06232A2FCCB49FDAEF4AFE80@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks Will.  I hadn't looked that discount site.



________________________________
From: Will Marchant <will at spaceflightsoftware.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:58 AM
To: Cady, Fred
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu

Sorry, I probably should have said I didn't use the code you supplied,
but found FWD15 on the second source you list for coupons.  The FWD15
worked for a PDF copy.
        73,
        Will KW4WZ

On 10/2/18 1:48 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> Interesting, Will.  Thanks for the information.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Will Marchant <will at spaceflightsoftware.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:32 AM
> *To:* Cady, Fred
> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] 15% off on KE7X print books at Lulu
> Thanks, Fred!  I grabbed a PDF copy with a 15% discount coupon.
>          73,
>          Will KW4WZ
...

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From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 15:16:05 2018
From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 12:16:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
Message-ID: <CAH0gZcY2wn6cM6hLYSBwp8WO6A=6xuRc=7TvNBq-3Tniyk1qyw@mail.gmail.com>

I bet Mike would appreciate getting back to his issue, which has nothing to
do with VOX...

Are you using a high end sound card/CODEC? If so it may just be that the
internal CODEC - while quite good - is not up to snuff for this
application.

I'd also try using different USB cables, though that doesn't sound like it
would be the problem.

73 jeff wk6i

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Mike Greenway <K4PI at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I have used for years a K3 on EME with WSJT using Line In/Out audio.
> Recently got a K3S and I am now using USB (CODEC) audio in and out of the
> radio.  In WSJT-10 they have Rate In/Rate Out monitors that should normally
> run at 1.000. Using the K3 analog audio these always stayed right on 1.000
> but now that I am using the USB audio they are jumping around quite often
> and getting out of range indicated in WSJT with a red marker.  I have tried
> two different computers and the same result.  I tried changing the sample
> rate in the computer audio settings but no change in the problem.  I plan
> to go back to analog Line In/Out on the K3S unless someone has an idea on
> how to settle down the Rate In/Out fluctuations.  I have not found anything
> in the K3S that might affect this.  You can reply off line if you like.  73
> Mike K4PI
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From K4PI at Bellsouth.net  Tue Oct  2 21:04:17 2018
From: K4PI at Bellsouth.net (Mike Greenway)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 21:04:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC UPDATE & CLOSE
Message-ID: <21a88828-dcc2-ff1e-8c96-1853eb0f74b7@Bellsouth.net>

Well the good news is that the K3S has nothing to do with my Rate In/Out 
numbers jumping out of range.? The reason I say that is I was watching 
the WSJT-10 program with the K3S powered off and the were still jumping 
out of range.? When seeing that I decided to check the analog audio 
again and couldnt believe it is jumping also.? Something has gone off 
the rails in the computer arena.

I disconnected everything from the machine today and found that anytime 
I have the Ethernet cable to the computer from the Xfinity router/modem? 
connected the Rates start jumping? randomly and sometimes out of range.? 
I changed the ethernet cable but not help.? Just for drill I put some 
torrids on each end with no change.??? I am thinking of seeing if 
Xfinity will swap out the router/modem.? The numbers do not necessarily 
jump when there is traffic on the ethernet rx or tx so not sure how that 
is causing the audio Rates to jump. ? I have no other clues right now 
but guess this case can be closed on the Elecraft reflector as this has 
nothing to do with the K3S.??? Thanks to all those that emailed me..? 73 
Mike K4PI


From lladerman at earthlink.net  Tue Oct  2 22:56:42 2018
From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 19:56:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPod "Memory Helper"
In-Reply-To: <00c001d45769$a3cc12f0$eb6438d0$@cox.net>
References: <00c001d45769$a3cc12f0$eb6438d0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <1538535402866-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Very nice Ken. 

73,

Lou W0FK



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From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  3 06:05:19 2018
From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:05:19 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <mailman.954.1538447803.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.954.1538447803.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <9ef9bda5-73a5-7cc3-8b07-e3d3efc70e04@googlemail.com>

You could always create something in Python, to have the computer read
and save the current rig settings you will alter, then invoke whatever
digimode software you use, then restore those radio settings to "normal"
after you've done.

There's lots of info out there regarding how to use serial ports etc
from within Python.? For rigs with a LAN port, it's even easier!? That,
and the excellent Elecraft user/programming manual are all you need,
other than time.

Python is an easy language to learn, OK, so not as simple as "Basic",
but simple enough for first timers, and capable enough for more
experienced types.

Works in Windows and Linux (including the Pi of course) and probably on
Mac's too.?? There are a host of developer tools out there, but a good
cross platform editor that is Python (and other language) syntax aware
editor, is "Geany".?? Very good.

Regards.

Dave G0WBX.

On 02/10/18 03:36, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> I tried to use the K3S USB sound and got tired of the incessant need to fuss 
> with drive and VOX levels.? I requested many times for firmware that would save 
> VOX settings by mode to no avail. (When I had another issue, Elecraft Support 
> actually told me that they didn't recommend VOX on digital modes.)

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From wa2si at arrl.net  Wed Oct  3 10:22:59 2018
From: wa2si at arrl.net (Bert Craig)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 10:22:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
Message-ID: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>

Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link.
https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/

From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Oct  3 11:23:10 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:23:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
Message-ID: <86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>

A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware Beofeng made an HF radio. 

Very disappointed. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Bert Craig <wa2si at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link.
> https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/
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From pincon at erols.com  Wed Oct  3 11:51:26 2018
From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:51:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
Message-ID: <003801d45b30$f49acad0$ddd06070$@erols.com>

You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just possibly,
I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes.

Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of migrating geese has
one leg longer than the other?
Ever wonder why?

It's because there's more geese in the longer leg......

73, Charlie k3ICH




-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Bert Craig
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey

Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective
exposure?) Here's the link.
https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/
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From nw0m at embarqmail.com  Wed Oct  3 12:27:57 2018
From: nw0m at embarqmail.com (NW0M)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 09:27:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Art,

I've been for this too.  Wayne said a couple years back that they were going
to add this to the firmware.  I guess we're the only two K-Pod owners that
want this.  I'm not calling this a major enhancement request but it would be
a nice one.

73, 
Mitch NW?M



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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Oct  3 13:22:44 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 13:22:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>
	<1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <4DADDFBA-A6BD-4DC0-BB89-802766FB08BD@widomaker.com>

I?d like the option. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:27 PM, NW0M <nw0m at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Art,
> 
> I've been for this too.  Wayne said a couple years back that they were going
> to add this to the firmware.  I guess we're the only two K-Pod owners that
> want this.  I'm not calling this a major enhancement request but it would be
> a nice one.
> 
> 73, 
> Mitch NW?M
> 
> 
> 
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From n6tv at arrl.net  Wed Oct  3 14:56:29 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:56:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] No Communication with USB Port on KPA-1500
In-Reply-To: <6d3a017f5604249449c392fefa71081c@k5ua.com>
References: <6d3a017f5604249449c392fefa71081c@k5ua.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGKVyGpb_YH3pCKz4TTNavFzfEy7UVuHdFOkrs0YMdvK_g@mail.gmail.com>

Connecting the USB cable to the KPA1500 creates its own FTDI virtual COM
port.

Did you look in the Windows Device Manager to see if the virtual COM port
number changed?  When you disconnect and reconnect the USB cable from the
amplifier, you should see the amp's COM port disappear and reappear in the
Device Manager, under "Ports."

Of course make sure you are connecting the cable to the square USB-B
connector at the top of the KPA1500, not the Ethernet port right below it,
which is easy to do by mistake if you can't see the back of the amplifier.

If no serial port appears, it's possible the amplifier's USB port has been
damaged, perhaps by a nearby lightning strike.  It's also possible that a
Prolific device driver is present and interfering with the proper operation
of the FTDI driver, in which case the Prolific driver should be uninstalled.

You may still be able to communicate with your KPA1500 by using the
amplifier's hardware serial port.  Assuming you have firmware 1.64 or
later, in the KPA1500 menu.

   1. TECH MODE -> ENABLE
   2. XCVR SERIAL HOST -> ENABLE
   3. XCVR SERIAL SPEED 38400
   4. Connect KX3SER, KXUSB or S-BOX <https://bit.ly/S-BOX> between a PC
   serial port or USB connector and the XCVR SERIAL port (3.5mm TRS) on the
   KPA1500.  This is the connector right underneath the Ethernet connector.
   5. Using a terminal Program like PuTTY, configure a SERIAL connection at
   38400,N,8,1, Local Echo ON
   -or-
   Try connecting the K3 Utility to the new serial port
   6. Enter a command like ^CC; to see if the amplifier responds with the
   current date and time.

However, you won't be able to upload new firmware this way, or power up the
amp. with the Utility.  Be sure to set XCVR SERIAL HOST back to DISABLE
when you are finished with the test.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:52 PM <charles at k5ua.com> wrote:

> Must have had a power surge because I can no longer communicate with my
> KPA-1500 on the same virtual com port like I did for about 6 weeks.
> Tried a new USB cable, but that did not work either.  Does connecting
> the KPA-1500 to the computer via a USB cable make a COM port of it's
> own, or must we use a virtual COM port?  If I remember correctly, I
> think I use a Flex Virtual COM port before the power surge?  Or did the
> power surge zap the USB port on the KPA-1500?  Any help appreciated.
>
> Charles  K5UA
>

From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 15:01:08 2018
From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (Stephen Shearer)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 15:01:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
	<86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>

Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???

steve WB3LGC/NR3I

On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:
> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware Beofeng made an HF radio.
>
> Very disappointed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>


From mike at ab9v.us  Wed Oct  3 16:08:26 2018
From: mike at ab9v.us (Mike Cox)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:08:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>
	<1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <3137b072-86b0-8a4b-6f0a-75a85301f318@ab9v.us>

I'd use this for sure!

Mike, AB9V


On 10/3/2018 12:27 PM, NW0M wrote:
> Art,
>
> I've been for this too.  Wayne said a couple years back that they were going
> to add this to the firmware.  I guess we're the only two K-Pod owners that
> want this.  I'm not calling this a major enhancement request but it would be
> a nice one.
>
> 73,
> Mitch NW?M
>
>
>
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From n6tv at arrl.net  Wed Oct  3 16:09:46 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 13:09:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply fan
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR02MB434389E5F4DD5CD432D5F23ACEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB434389E5F4DD5CD432D5F23ACEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGJXawstzB+_eKy_+yyCx7vYLimBXQz7B_a28yd-EC62ew@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

You can do it that way, but be advised that a Y-BOX can also support remote
power up of the amp. using a K3 macro, so no 12V supply or remotely
controlled IP switch is needed.

See https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Y-BOX/Features.html#Remote .

If you're driving the KPA1500 with a non-Elecraft transceiver, one that
doesn't have a convenient 12V output, an RTS pin toggle on a serial port
can also be used to power up the amp.

See https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/S-BOX/Features.html#RemoteHams

(This shows a K3, but for non-Elecraft transceivers, the AUX cable would be
connected to the KPA1500 instead of to the K3).

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:35 PM Rick Stealey <rstealey at hotmail.com> wrote:

> We think the solution is to provide 12 vdc into the rem connector from a
> wall wart and are testing to see if the wart was controlled remotely via an
> IP switch if it would solve the problem
>
>
> Rick  K2XT
>

From n8vz at qth.com  Wed Oct  3 16:13:58 2018
From: n8vz at qth.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Carl_J=c3=b3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:13:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Parts and Cables for sale
Message-ID: <97acaeca-d6f7-562b-d792-4bc7067391fa@qth.com>

After a recent upgrade of a K3 and some past upgrades of other K3 rigs, 
I have the following surplus items for sale

1. KI03 boards and back plate -- $25.00 OBO.
2. Ki03a boards and back plate -- $50.00 OBO
3. Two E980297 cables -- $15.00 each, both for $25.00
4.? One KXUSB cable (never used still in original plastic bag, new 
$32.95 plus shipping) -- for only $25.00 shipped
5.? KFL3A-2.7K filter -- $75.00 OBO
6. Two original K3 Oscillators (PIN 1097) -- $25 each, both for $45.00

Or, everything listed for $215 shipped.

Please contact off-list if interested.

73,

Carl

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From xdavid at cis-broadband.com  Wed Oct  3 16:38:38 2018
From: xdavid at cis-broadband.com (David Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 13:38:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
Message-ID: <b6fadc51-dceb-d1a9-cc14-2072133651ef@cis-broadband.com>


What the heck difference does that make? ? Why should anyone care? It's 
stupid survey unencumbered by data in the first place , and in the 
second place the entire site is sponsored by Icom.

Dave? AB7E



On 10/3/2018 7:22 AM, Bert Craig wrote:
> Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link.
> https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/


From jimk0xu at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 16:41:17 2018
From: jimk0xu at gmail.com (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 15:41:17 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
	<86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>
	<a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALhxr4aOi9anEodMUhOt6VhQk48-EseGFpMZgrzvycJ3w_GMYw@mail.gmail.com>

Oh no! That couldn't happen could it? At least Beofeng wasn't the sponsor.


On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:02 PM Stephen Shearer <sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???
>
> steve WB3LGC/NR3I
>
> On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:
> > A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not
> aware Beofeng made an HF radio.
> >
> > Very disappointed.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
>
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From k2ud at roadrunner.com  Wed Oct  3 16:51:22 2018
From: k2ud at roadrunner.com (k2ud at roadrunner.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:51:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <b6fadc51-dceb-d1a9-cc14-2072133651ef@cis-broadband.com>
Message-ID: <20181003205122.RIMEY.129137.root@dnvrco-web07>

I like ICOM, I also like Elecraft.  DX'ers like ICOM but they are DX'ers first and QRP'ers second.  I wouldn't look into the survey too seriously.

72

Howard Kraus, K2UD

---- David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com> wrote: 
> 
What the heck difference does that make? ? Why should anyone care? It's 
stupid survey unencumbered by data in the first place , and in the 
second place the entire site is sponsored by Icom.

Dave? AB7E



On 10/3/2018 7:22 AM, Bert Craig wrote:
> Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link.
> https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/

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From KX3.2 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com  Wed Oct  3 16:58:53 2018
From: KX3.2 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 13:58:53 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
	<86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>
	<a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63fc7db8-c92d-9fee-1de3-87a6ffda612e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>

If you ask 10,000 hams, at random, you get a statistically valid result.

If the participants in the survey are self-selected, the results mean 
nothing -- and you get "Boaty McBoatface" as the winning name for the 
British NERC's new vessel.

73 -- Lynn

On 10/3/2018 12:01 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
> Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???
> 
> steve WB3LGC/NR3I
> 
> On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not 
>> aware Beofeng made an HF radio.
>>
>> Very disappointed.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
> 
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From kz5d at aol.com  Wed Oct  3 17:04:28 2018
From: kz5d at aol.com (Art)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 17:04:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO-What say you Wayne?
Message-ID: <1663bbf0ed8-1ec4-63f0@webjas-vab058.srv.aolmail.net>

Wayne,


Is this feature request something we can anticipate seeing before the end of the year? I've had several other replies off reflector asking for it as well.


As it stands now, IF I set the tuning rate for the VFO A to be what I want, the K-pod lags behind at half the rate so I can only use the K-pod as an RIT enhancement.  IF I set the tuning rate for the K-pod to perform as a VFO, then by touching the main tuning know  I QSY at a ridiculous rate. 


Inquiring minds want to know.


73,


Art KZ5D

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Wed Oct  3 17:28:35 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 14:28:35 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <3137b072-86b0-8a4b-6f0a-75a85301f318@ab9v.us>
References: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>
	<1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<3137b072-86b0-8a4b-6f0a-75a85301f318@ab9v.us>
Message-ID: <76b37c93-6936-d67c-8f0a-60b192225e46@foothill.net>

Count me in if it's an option.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/3/2018 1:08 PM, Mike Cox wrote:
> I'd use this for sure!
>
> Mike, AB9V
>
>
> On 10/3/2018 12:27 PM, NW0M wrote:
>> Art,
>>
>> I've been for this too.? Wayne said a couple years back that they 
>> were going
>> to add this to the firmware.? I guess we're the only two K-Pod owners 
>> that
>> want this.? I'm not calling this a major enhancement request but it 
>> would be
>> a nice one.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mitch NW?M


From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct  3 17:32:37 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 14:32:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <63fc7db8-c92d-9fee-1de3-87a6ffda612e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
	<86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>
	<a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>
	<63fc7db8-c92d-9fee-1de3-87a6ffda612e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
Message-ID: <49efa433-aa14-fe4e-cf87-5e64f9b6ccfa@elecraft.com>

Let's end this topic for now.

73,
Eric
Moderator
/elecraft.com/

On 10/3/2018 1:58 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> If you ask 10,000 hams, at random, you get a statistically valid result.
>
> If the participants in the survey are self-selected, the results mean nothing 
> -- and you get "Boaty McBoatface" as the winning name for the British NERC's 
> new vessel.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 10/3/2018 12:01 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
>> Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???
>>
>> steve WB3LGC/NR3I
>>
>> On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware 
>>> Beofeng made an HF radio.
>>>
>>> Very disappointed.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>>
>>
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct  3 17:43:58 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 14:43:58 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR02MB4343FC936D143BE96FC7AA52CEEF0@BYAPR02MB4343.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <7affdd68-d9cc-05ed-5ac2-dc22f3406218@elecraft.com>

Rick and everyone - There should be NO fans running in the power supply after 
turning off the RF deck from its front panel.
Are you sure the RF deck front panel is OFF? (No lights on the RF deck FP)

The PS fan runs from the same supply that supplies the 50 V to the amp. That 
supply is definitely turned off when the RF deck front panel is off, which also 
kills the PS fans. The fans have absolutely nothing to do with the 12 VDC supply 
going to the RF deck.

In any case, no not modify how voltage is supplied to the RF deck, as this will 
not fix anything and will definitely void the Warranty.

If you are not able to resolve this issue contact our team at 
support at elecraft.com or via the phone and we'll help you figure out what is 
happening.

My only thought is that there could be a short in the control cable between the 
amp RF deck and PS that is keeping the 50V supply and fans on in the PS. (Or on 
one of the connectors in the RF deck or PS.) Our support team will help you 
debug whatever is happening if its a hw issue..

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Rick Stealey, rstealey at hotmail.com wrote:
> K2XT here.  Greetings,
> We are installing K8DM's brand new KPA1500 here at my qth today replacing a KPA500.
> He runs the station remotely from VA; my QTH is in NJ.
> (I host the station for him).
>
> So, it is powered up and running.  When not in use it appears as if (according to the manual) it needs to generate a small voltage/current to the rf deck to allow it to function.  No problem, that makes sense.
> The problem is, there is a fan running in the power supply, and it is annoying!  The remote station is in a spare bedroom and visiting guests will have to endure this noise.  Plus, I'd like the equipment to go off when it is turned off.  I don't want a fan running 24/365.  Does the PS really generate that much heat that it needs a fan?
>
> This is not acceptable.  Wayne, surely you didn't design it this way.  Surely there is an option we set somewhere to disable the fan.
>
> What say, anyone?
>
> Rick  K2XT
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From pincon at erols.com  Wed Oct  3 18:09:45 2018
From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:09:45 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <63fc7db8-c92d-9fee-1de3-87a6ffda612e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>	<86ED5BF4-7BF1-458C-A758-6C5CEF7C8DA8@widomaker.com>	<a11943c2-fcfd-b03f-7015-8549b1b71318@gmail.com>
	<63fc7db8-c92d-9fee-1de3-87a6ffda612e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
Message-ID: <006c01d45b65$ce50e6e0$6af2b4a0$@erols.com>

Why are we wasting time AGAIN on this ridiculous & meaningless survey?
Are the bands THAT dead that we have nothing better to do?

Besides, this thing went around a couple months ago anyway?

Chas


-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:59 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey

If you ask 10,000 hams, at random, you get a statistically valid result.

If the participants in the survey are self-selected, the results mean
nothing -- and you get "Boaty McBoatface" as the winning name for the
British NERC's new vessel.

73 -- Lynn

On 10/3/2018 12:01 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
> Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???
> 
> steve WB3LGC/NR3I
> 
> On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. 
>> Not aware Beofeng made an HF radio.
>>
>> Very disappointed.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
> 
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Wed Oct  3 18:17:00 2018
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2018 14:17:00 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] New KE7X book
Message-ID: <201810032217.w93MH3es009084@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>

Ordered paper version which will be donated to my local ham 
club.  Later I will download pdf for my files.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Dubus-NA Business mail:
   dubususa at gmail.com 


From neilz at techie.com  Wed Oct  3 23:17:56 2018
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:17:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <4ef725bc-ff12-5e67-cb0c-28bbb35235e8@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <BC48D580FA3F481690BFFE419ED4CCEC@SHACK>
	<74WogI05MaOtK74WpgETTT@videotron.ca>
	<84C8975BB97E4C75B2BA332F39BD3E61@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
	<014dd4c8-3ea2-d6ac-fd72-3b7cb7b87869@triconet.org>
	<854b5d40-82b1-a7d5-5d2b-096324b095f4@gmail.com>
	<4ef725bc-ff12-5e67-cb0c-28bbb35235e8@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <e5352e13-6711-0605-7320-fb73c337a43a@techie.com>

Jim,

I use PTT with both my K2 and my KX3, its just one additional USB 
connection to the PC.? The other is to my external USB soundcard which 
does audio for both.

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 10/2/2018 4:20 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 10/1/2018 10:47 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>> While thousands may use VOX
>
> I'm one of those, and I've done it for many years with everything from 
> RTTY to SSB to FT8, JT65, JT9, and MSK144. It works VERY well. It's 
> one less connection to worry about, and it works fine. I do a LOT of 
> contesting, and a wild guess is that I've done at least 20,00 QSOs 
> this way.
>
> If you WANT to use PTT, be my guest, but you're adding un-necessary 
> complication to your setup.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>


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From neilz at techie.com  Wed Oct  3 23:23:42 2018
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:23:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC UPDATE & CLOSE
In-Reply-To: <21a88828-dcc2-ff1e-8c96-1853eb0f74b7@Bellsouth.net>
References: <21a88828-dcc2-ff1e-8c96-1853eb0f74b7@Bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <37d6f5d1-f05f-8ad7-3ebf-dfda0caa08b4@techie.com>

Mike,

I had heard anecdotal stories about Xfinity modems and ethernet 
connections to non-computer equipment.? I actually had one customer who 
had the problem, I took a spare Linksys router, and connected it between 
the Xfinity modem, and the equipment, and that fixed the issue for my 
customer.??? I basically turned off the Xfinity WiFi, installed a top of 
the line Linksys AC-1900 router, and all the ethernet, and wireless 
connections go through that, and he's not seen the issue since.

As usual YMMV ... :)

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 10/2/2018 9:04 PM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> Well the good news is that the K3S has nothing to do with my Rate 
> In/Out numbers jumping out of range.? The reason I say that is I was 
> watching the WSJT-10 program with the K3S powered off and the were 
> still jumping out of range.? When seeing that I decided to check the 
> analog audio again and couldnt believe it is jumping also.? Something 
> has gone off the rails in the computer arena.
>
> I disconnected everything from the machine today and found that 
> anytime I have the Ethernet cable to the computer from the Xfinity 
> router/modem? connected the Rates start jumping? randomly and 
> sometimes out of range.? I changed the ethernet cable but not help.? 
> Just for drill I put some torrids on each end with no change.??? I am 
> thinking of seeing if Xfinity will swap out the router/modem.? The 
> numbers do not necessarily jump when there is traffic on the ethernet 
> rx or tx so not sure how that is causing the audio Rates to jump. ? I 
> have no other clues right now but guess this case can be closed on the 
> Elecraft reflector as this has nothing to do with the K3S.??? Thanks 
> to all those that emailed me..? 73 Mike K4PI
>
>


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From neilz at techie.com  Wed Oct  3 23:24:59 2018
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:24:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <003801d45b30$f49acad0$ddd06070$@erols.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
	<003801d45b30$f49acad0$ddd06070$@erols.com>
Message-ID: <7ef7cb30-c194-ae78-c4cf-7fcbd1f4722c@techie.com>

Might have more to do with the fact that ICOM is a supporter/advertiser 
on that site .. LOL

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 10/3/2018 11:51 AM, Charlie T wrote:
> You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just possibly,
> I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes.
>
> Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of migrating geese has
> one leg longer than the other?
> Ever wonder why?
>
> It's because there's more geese in the longer leg......
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Bert Craig
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
>
> Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective
> exposure?) Here's the link.
> https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/
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From dpbunte at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 23:50:05 2018
From: dpbunte at gmail.com (David Bunte)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:50:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <7ef7cb30-c194-ae78-c4cf-7fcbd1f4722c@techie.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
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	<7ef7cb30-c194-ae78-c4cf-7fcbd1f4722c@techie.com>
Message-ID: <CANCJpbSqNDy086eSFCD+F1hiecX3gQ9f+dztRPej+-SGezc7PA@mail.gmail.com>

I would not assume that it has anything to do with ICOM supporting the
survey, and more with the fact that there are probably many more ICOM HF
rig owners than Elecraft owners... if that is true then I am a bit
surprised that Yaesu and Kenwood are not ahead of Elecraft... but what does
it matter anyway. I don't know a soul who would sell their Elecraft rig
just because of the results of that "survey".

Dave - K9FN

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:26 PM Neil Zampella <neilz at techie.com> wrote:

> Might have more to do with the fact that ICOM is a supporter/advertiser
> on that site .. LOL
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
>
> On 10/3/2018 11:51 AM, Charlie T wrote:
> > You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just possibly,
> > I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes.
> >
> > Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of migrating geese
> has
> > one leg longer than the other?
> > Ever wonder why?
> >
> > It's because there's more geese in the longer leg......
> >
> > 73, Charlie k3ICH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> On
> > Behalf Of Bert Craig
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM
> > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
> >
> > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that!
> (Selective
> > exposure?) Here's the link.
> > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From neilz at techie.com  Wed Oct  3 23:55:57 2018
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:55:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <CANCJpbSqNDy086eSFCD+F1hiecX3gQ9f+dztRPej+-SGezc7PA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
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That was a joke ... :)

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 10/3/2018 11:50 PM, David Bunte wrote:
> I would not assume that it has anything to do with ICOM supporting the 
> survey, and more with the fact that there are probably many more ICOM 
> HF rig owners than Elecraft owners... if that is true then I am a bit 
> surprised that Yaesu and Kenwood are not ahead of Elecraft... but what 
> does it matter anyway. I don't know a soul who would sell their 
> Elecraft rig just because of the results of that "survey".
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:26 PM Neil Zampella <neilz at techie.com 
> <mailto:neilz at techie.com>> wrote:
>
>     Might have more to do with the fact that ICOM is a
>     supporter/advertiser
>     on that site .. LOL
>
>     Neil, KN3ILZ
>
>
>     On 10/3/2018 11:51 AM, Charlie T wrote:
>     > You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just
>     possibly,
>     > I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes.
>     >
>     > Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of
>     migrating geese has
>     > one leg longer than the other?
>     > Ever wonder why?
>     >
>     > It's because there's more geese in the longer leg......
>     >
>     > 73, Charlie k3ICH
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     <mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> On
>     > Behalf Of Bert Craig
>     > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM
>     > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>     > Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
>     >
>     > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that!
>     (Selective
>     > exposure?) Here's the link.
>     > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/
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From ve2fww at globetrotter.net  Thu Oct  4 07:17:57 2018
From: ve2fww at globetrotter.net (NOEL POULIN)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 07:17:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT
Message-ID: <3b35e490-7434-ad2a-e9d7-0135f47e60a4@globetrotter.net>

Hello to everyone,
It is for sure O T, but I will ask anyway.
I am looking for a QUICKSILVER? QS1R radio......want to use it with a 
skimmer and a K3S
Been searching for a long time with no result...so I am just taking a 
chance here..
Please contact me off list if you might have one for sale..
Many thanks
Noel

From lists at w2irt.net  Thu Oct  4 12:17:30 2018
From: lists at w2irt.net (Peter Dougherty (W2IRT))
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:17:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <76b37c93-6936-d67c-8f0a-60b192225e46@foothill.net>
References: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>	<1538584077589-0.post@n2.nabble.com>	<3137b072-86b0-8a4b-6f0a-75a85301f318@ab9v.us>
	<76b37c93-6936-d67c-8f0a-60b192225e46@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <00a201d45bfd$c0b92680$422b7380$@net>

If Elecraft chooses to make this available, **please** make it optional. I personally prefer it the way it is, but I certainly understand how others would want it to track the main VFO, and I understand their arguments as well.

----------------------------------------------------
Regards,
Peter Dougherty, W2IRT
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-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 5:29 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO

Count me in if it's an option.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/3/2018 1:08 PM, Mike Cox wrote:
> I'd use this for sure!
>
> Mike, AB9V
>
>
> On 10/3/2018 12:27 PM, NW0M wrote:
>> Art,
>>
>> I've been for this too.  Wayne said a couple years back that they 
>> were going
>> to add this to the firmware.  I guess we're the only two K-Pod owners 
>> that
>> want this.  I'm not calling this a major enhancement request but it 
>> would be
>> a nice one.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mitch NW?M

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From k2asp at kanafi.org  Thu Oct  4 12:18:13 2018
From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:18:13 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC UPDATE & CLOSE
In-Reply-To: <37d6f5d1-f05f-8ad7-3ebf-dfda0caa08b4@techie.com>
References: <21a88828-dcc2-ff1e-8c96-1853eb0f74b7@Bellsouth.net>
	<37d6f5d1-f05f-8ad7-3ebf-dfda0caa08b4@techie.com>
Message-ID: <d73c98d3-2877-72bc-c3af-156ad39fc26c@kanafi.org>

On 10/3/2018 8:23 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:

> I had heard anecdotal stories about Xfinity modems and ethernet
> connections to non-computer equipment.? I actually had one customer who
> had the problem, I took a spare Linksys router, and connected it between
> the Xfinity modem, and the equipment, and that fixed the issue for my
> customer.??? I basically turned off the Xfinity WiFi, installed a top of
> the line Linksys AC-1900 router, and all the ethernet, and wireless
> connections go through that, and he's not seen the issue since.

My last word:

I bought into the XFinity "X1" program and connected their super-modem
and tried to make it work with my LAN.  I detected security holes in
their "instant hotspot" provision that would violate my company's
insistence of tight firewalls and hard-wire Ethernet for any
off-premises system carrying company information no matter how small.
The upshot is that I returned their modem, bought my own Arris
(Motorola) modem meeting their compatibility specs, and continued to use
my existing Netgear VPN router.  It paid for itself wirhin a year.
Problem solved.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

From K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET  Thu Oct  4 17:32:29 2018
From: K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET (Mike Greenway)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:32:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
Message-ID: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>

As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the K3S.  Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by Dimension 4.  I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think that was a problem.  I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 correction on my computer.  I don?t think it is abnormal for the Rates on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to the computer.  Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.  Thanks to all that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.  73 Mike K4PI

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Thu Oct  4 18:03:01 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 18:03:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
Message-ID: <8ddc11e9-a794-be6f-cdae-c312d9c90761@embarqmail.com>

Mike,

It is not unusual at all for things to "get jumpy" when the computer is 
busy doing some frequent task.

Why do we always blame the radio first.  In this day of digital stuff 
with a computer involved, 90% of the time the problem is with the 
computer or the settings in your application.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/4/2018 5:32 PM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the K3S.  Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by Dimension 4.  I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think that was a problem.  I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 correction on my computer.  I don?t think it is abnormal for the Rates on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to the computer.  Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.  Thanks to all that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.  73 Mike K4PI

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Thu Oct  4 18:15:43 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:15:43 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <8ddc11e9-a794-be6f-cdae-c312d9c90761@embarqmail.com>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
	<8ddc11e9-a794-be6f-cdae-c312d9c90761@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <9dc8ef23-0884-a254-81cf-1f243c665fd3@blomand.net>

Thank you Don.? Over and over again, I've said "what did you do last, 
before you broke it?"?? Well then, go undo that.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/4/2018 5:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Mike,
>
> It is not unusual at all for things to "get jumpy" when the computer 
> is busy doing some frequent task.
>
> Why do we always blame the radio first.? In this day of digital stuff 
> with a computer involved, 90% of the time the problem is with the 
> computer or the settings in your application.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/4/2018 5:32 PM, Mike Greenway wrote:
>> As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the 
>> K3S.? Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by 
>> Dimension 4.? I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think 
>> that was a problem.? I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and 
>> hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 
>> correction on my computer.? I don?t think it is abnormal for the 
>> Rates on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to 
>> the computer.? Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.? Thanks to 
>> all that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.? 73 Mike K4PI
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Thu Oct  4 19:10:59 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:10:59 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <9dc8ef23-0884-a254-81cf-1f243c665fd3@blomand.net>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
	<8ddc11e9-a794-be6f-cdae-c312d9c90761@embarqmail.com>
	<9dc8ef23-0884-a254-81cf-1f243c665fd3@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <ac24fed8-af65-cd09-5923-e52770e01db1@foothill.net>

It seems to be standard human nature that, when something that was 
working fails, we all gravitate to the worst possible cause [hardest to 
fix, most costly, etc].? It used to be said that what you want when 
something fails is a tiny little fire over in a corner of the chassis.? 
Tells you where to look.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/4/2018 3:15 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> Thank you Don.? Over and over again, I've said "what did you do last, 
> before you broke it?"?? Well then, go undo that.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX


From jh at hoffmaninv.com  Thu Oct  4 19:46:54 2018
From: jh at hoffmaninv.com (W8JH)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:46:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
Message-ID: <1538696814377-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

You had your computer set up to update the clock EVERY SECOND!  WOW!!!

I have mine set up to sync the clock every 5 hours and worried I had
borderline CDO behavior.

For the uninformed please note that CDO is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
with the acronym arranged in correct alphabetical order which simply must be
done if one is to be obsessively compulsive IMHO.

73,

Joe, W8JH



-----
73,

Joe, W8JH
K3 1713, KPA 132, KX3 7498
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Thu Oct  4 19:49:43 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Thu,  4 Oct 2018 16:49:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <9dc8ef23-0884-a254-81cf-1f243c665fd3@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-FFD4C3A8ED254133A7EE0777C0249FBE@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

Bob has clearly identified one of the classics. My favorite came 
from a tech support person working with an old batch mode 
computer. The dialog goes:

   "I didn't change anything."
   "Why did you run it again?"

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/4/18 at 3:15 PM, rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX) wrote:

>Thank you Don.? Over and over again, I've said "what did you 
>do last, before you broke it?"?? Well then, go undo that.

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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Thu Oct  4 20:01:15 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 19:01:15 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <ac24fed8-af65-cd09-5923-e52770e01db1@foothill.net>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
	<8ddc11e9-a794-be6f-cdae-c312d9c90761@embarqmail.com>
	<9dc8ef23-0884-a254-81cf-1f243c665fd3@blomand.net>
	<ac24fed8-af65-cd09-5923-e52770e01db1@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <AC0E6A3A-FA6C-490C-A56D-B77640206062@blomand.net>

We've turned into a society of blame "someone or something" else.  We need to more frequently look in the mirror.  Otherwise, when pointing the finger of blame, look down,  there's 3 pointing at the most likely source. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> It seems to be standard human nature that, when something that was working fails, we all gravitate to the worst possible cause [hardest to fix, most costly, etc].  It used to be said that what you want when something fails is a tiny little fire over in a corner of the chassis.  Tells you where to look.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
>> On 10/4/2018 3:15 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> Thank you Don.  Over and over again, I've said "what did you do last, before you broke it?"   Well then, go undo that.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
> 
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From edauer at law.du.edu  Thu Oct  4 22:28:49 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 02:28:49 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
Message-ID: <0CE4F7A9-F07F-45B7-B581-E611A022762B@law.du.edu>

    Mine works exactly as Eric says it should.  I have not uploaded any new F/W, still using the original issue.  Anything change for the PS in a newer version?  Just a thought . . . .

Ted, KN1CBR
    
    ------------------------------
    
    Message: 13
    Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 14:43:58 -0700
    From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <eric at elecraft.com>
    To: Rick Stealey <rstealey at hotmail.com>,	"Elecraft at mailman.qth.net"
    	<Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
    Message-ID: <7affdd68-d9cc-05ed-5ac2-dc22f3406218 at elecraft.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
    
    Rick and everyone - There should be NO fans running in the power supply after 
    turning off the RF deck from its front panel.
    Are you sure the RF deck front panel is OFF? (No lights on the RF deck FP)
    
    The PS fan runs from the same supply that supplies the 50 V to the amp. That 
    supply is definitely turned off when the RF deck front panel is off, which also 
    kills the PS fans. The fans have absolutely nothing to do with the 12 VDC supply 
    going to the RF deck.
    
    In any case, no not modify how voltage is supplied to the RF deck, as this will 
    not fix anything and will definitely void the Warranty.
    
    If you are not able to resolve this issue contact our team at 
    support at elecraft.com or via the phone and we'll help you figure out what is 
    happening.
    
    My only thought is that there could be a short in the control cable between the 
    amp RF deck and PS that is keeping the 50V supply and fans on in the PS. (Or on 
    one of the connectors in the RF deck or PS.) Our support team will help you 
    debug whatever is happening if its a hw issue..
    
    73,
    Eric
    /elecraft.com/
    
 


From n6tv at arrl.net  Fri Oct  5 02:06:44 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 23:06:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <89491920-3e40-26c7-86c1-72cdafcb051b@embarqmail.com>
References: <1661b5b7fad-1ec7-2f93@webjas-vad009.srv.aolmail.net>
	<89491920-3e40-26c7-86c1-72cdafcb051b@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGLW52RSPwL0bR8LaZt+K2v6EB4ojkOgYfHNw6d7MiKEog@mail.gmail.com>

To the contrary, I was a K-POD Field Tester, and requested (on June 1st,
2016) that the K-POD Counts Per turn (CTS) match the K3 tuning rate
(CONFIG:VFO CTS).  I was promised that it would happen some day when there
was a K-POD Utiolity.  But the K-POD is still fixed at 200 "tics" per turn.

At least two other contesters at the time also complained about the K-POD
turning rate.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:48 AM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> As I recall, most of the K-pod field testers thought the reduced CTS was
> beneficial given the placement of the knob.
>
> Of course, they were most all CW contesters who wanted a slower tuning
> rate.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/27/2018 10:07 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote:
>
> >
> > When the K-Pod first came out, it was mentioned that the CTS of the
> K-Pod was 1/2 of the VFO. That is still the case. Case in point: Set VFO
> CTS to 200. K-Pod CTS is only 100.
> >
> > Could the developers PLEASE write the code to allow the K-Pod to operate
> at the same CTS as the VFO?
>

From k9jri at mac.com  Fri Oct  5 11:29:37 2018
From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake)
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 11:29:37 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
Message-ID: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>

A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My station is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle, Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really getting into it.

Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that will entice me to engage in more CW operations?

If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.

Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI







From KY5G at montac.com  Fri Oct  5 11:31:26 2018
From: KY5G at montac.com (Clay Autery)
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 10:31:26 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <CAOmNKGLW52RSPwL0bR8LaZt+K2v6EB4ojkOgYfHNw6d7MiKEog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.31.1538753503.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Bottom line for me...? As soon as the CTS is configurable, I will buy one....? and likely not until.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: "Bob Wilson, N6TV" <n6tv at arrl.net> Date: 10/5/18  01:06  (GMT-06:00) To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO 
To the contrary, I was a K-POD Field Tester, and requested (on June 1st,
2016) that the K-POD Counts Per turn (CTS) match the K3 tuning rate
(CONFIG:VFO CTS).? I was promised that it would happen some day when there
was a K-POD Utiolity.? But the K-POD is still fixed at 200 "tics" per turn.

At least two other contesters at the time also complained about the K-POD
turning rate.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:48 AM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> As I recall, most of the K-pod field testers thought the reduced CTS was
> beneficial given the placement of the knob.
>
> Of course, they were most all CW contesters who wanted a slower tuning
> rate.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/27/2018 10:07 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote:
>
> >
> > When the K-Pod first came out, it was mentioned that the CTS of the
> K-Pod was 1/2 of the VFO. That is still the case. Case in point: Set VFO
> CTS to 200. K-Pod CTS is only 100.
> >
> > Could the developers PLEASE write the code to allow the K-Pod to operate
> at the same CTS as the VFO?
>
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Oct  5 12:33:13 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 09:33:13 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <d70a7406-b638-81fb-a02e-5667738c20f6@foothill.net>

1.? Call CQ at "your speed".
2.? QRS is a perfectly acceptable Q-signal in mixed company
3.? 86 the keyboard and send with paddle/bug/J-38
4.? Listen around the QRP frequencies ~.050 - .060
5.? www.sotawatch.com & call summit activators.? short exchanges
6.? Join SKCC
7.? Don't join SKCC but look for them
8.? Check into your local NTS section/state net [usually 80 m evenings]
9.? Monitor around .028 and call those at your speed [CWops hangout]
10. Ask for a sked with another Elecrafter here.? I'm available]

That should get you started.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/5/2018 8:29 AM, Michael Blake via Elecraft wrote:
> A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My station is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle, Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really getting into it.
>
> Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
>
> If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
>
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
>


From wunder at wunderwood.org  Fri Oct  5 12:57:17 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 09:57:17 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F9053BA5-FAF9-4514-933E-507321FFFD0F@wunderwood.org>

Have you tried chasing Summits on the Air (SOTA) activators? Last weekend there were a whole bunch of people on mountain tops in Arizona. There are quite a few CW activators.

Programme: https://www.sota.org.uk/

Spots: http://www.sotawatch.org/

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Michael Blake via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My station is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle, Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really getting into it.
> 
> Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
> 
> If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
> 
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From scuba9829 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 13:13:11 2018
From: scuba9829 at gmail.com (Grady Harper)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:13:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <AE0CC0B0-3449-4D81-B868-708902D2FC7E@gmail.com>

Stop using readers and the keyboard.  Find a conversation (qso) and listen/copy.  Practice.  When you are comfortable copying answer a call.  Most cw operators will try to send at your speed.  I was where you are now.  I still get ?stage fright? now and then.  The more you do it the better you get, about like everything else.  Just remember to help the new guys.  That?s how our hobby works.

AJ4YA
Grady
Wendell, NC

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 11:29, Michael Blake via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My station is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle, Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really getting into it.
> 
> Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
> 
> If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
> 
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From gio.flynn at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 13:24:26 2018
From: gio.flynn at gmail.com (John Flynn)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:24:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CALK2ZbynibZ8FJAePnp7tSJRndtwPYLZJ5E=dUypqPnoOFqSPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

A couple of thoughts about activities that have kept me ditting and dawing.

You might consider hanging out with the SKCC (Straight Key Century Club)
ops. As the name suggests, straight key bug, or cootie key only. Lots of
activities and awards to chase. Also the group has a very active reflector.

Check out WWFF (World Wide Flora and Fauna), POTA (Parks on the Air) and
SOTA (Summits on the Air). You can be an activator or chaser/hunter.

Another activity I've never seen mentioned is CW nets. I check in most
mornings at 8:30 with HBN--Hit and Bounce Net (east coast).

Finally, sign up for a level 2 or 3 online course with the CW Academy.

Over time, I've used all of the above to keep me motivated.

GL es 73,

John K4ARQ

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 11:31 Michael Blake via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My station
> is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle,
> Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about
> 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually
> engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW
> keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really
> getting into it.
>
> Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that
> will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
>
> If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
>
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From ardrhi at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 13:51:05 2018
From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:51:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <CALK2ZbynibZ8FJAePnp7tSJRndtwPYLZJ5E=dUypqPnoOFqSPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
	<CALK2ZbynibZ8FJAePnp7tSJRndtwPYLZJ5E=dUypqPnoOFqSPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+nQa2MATjDkC69B47OoFaazq4XHONz2dF8s6xSC-NPBKDyYGQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm re-learning code that I haven't significantly used since I passed my
General (my Extra was BARELY past the time when they removed the
requirement). I'm right on that edge where I can ALMOST get it, but not
quite. I can get bits, but not enough to make sense. I don't think in it
yet. I'm signed up for a CWops course -- I was tempted to do level 2, but
figured I'm SO rusty, I decided to let them retrain me completely in their
method, since my method resulted in it not really sticking all that well.
The course I'm signed up for starts in January, just after the new year
begins.

My biggest hurdle has been "mike shyness", or the equivalent with a key or
paddle. I've got keys. I've got paddles. I can even use them to a degree.
But I still can't COPY worth a damn. I'm trying to immerse myself in code
at least a bit. I have a program that'll convert a text file into a CW MP3
file. So I got a favorite short story from Project Gutenberg and converted
it (H. Beam Piper's "Omnilingual". It seemed appropriate.), and I can sit
and listen and try to make sense out of it. I'm getting words here and
there, but it's still something I have to CONCENTRATE on. It's not
reflexive yet.

I'll sometimes fire up a websdr and CWGet (I know, lose the readers) and
let it play in the background while I do things. I can sometimes pick out
call signs and simple stuff without having to peek at the reader.

Eventually, I'll get there. And I'm sure, once I start USING it and making
contacts, and nobody laughs me off the band, I'll get to like it and it'll
become natural as breathing.

73,
Gwen NG3P

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 1:25 PM John Flynn <gio.flynn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> A couple of thoughts about activities that have kept me ditting and dawing.
>
> You might consider hanging out with the SKCC (Straight Key Century Club)
> ops. As the name suggests, straight key bug, or cootie key only. Lots of
> activities and awards to chase. Also the group has a very active reflector.
>
> Check out WWFF (World Wide Flora and Fauna), POTA (Parks on the Air) and
> SOTA (Summits on the Air). You can be an activator or chaser/hunter.
>
> Another activity I've never seen mentioned is CW nets. I check in most
> mornings at 8:30 with HBN--Hit and Bounce Net (east coast).
>
> Finally, sign up for a level 2 or 3 online course with the CW Academy.
>
> Over time, I've used all of the above to keep me motivated.
>
> GL es 73,
>
> John K4ARQ
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 11:31 Michael Blake via Elecraft <
> elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
> > A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My
> station
> > is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle,
> > Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to
> about
> > 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually
> > engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW
> > keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really
> > getting into it.
> >
> > Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that
> > will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
> >
> > If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
> >
> > Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From kk5f at earthlink.net  Fri Oct  5 14:58:08 2018
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 14:58:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
Message-ID: <779358407.7714.1538765888395@wamui-fatboy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

That's a very good and comprehensive list of suggestions, Fred.  I've only one nit to pick in this statement:

> 3.? 86 the keyboard and send with paddle/bug/J-38

Avoid the J-38 military straight key.  The common J-38 was used in military service ONLY for Morse training.  The equally-common J-37 is the Signal Corps key most often used with real front-line sets that might be exposed to combat environments.  However, the Navy Type 26003 key is the finest of common military straight keys.  It's what I use if forced to use an Asian-origin commercial ham rig.  They seem not to know how to make a transceiver capable of Mode A iambic keying.  I'd rub two wires together before I'd ever try using the horrific Mode B that almost all Asian ham rigs force on buyers.  I really appreciate how every Elecraft rig ever made allows great Mode A iambic keying, so I don't often need to break out my 26003 straight key.

Mike / KK5F

From k9jri at mac.com  Fri Oct  5 15:15:56 2018
From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake)
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:15:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F3114D99-AEF9-439B-A1CE-83CA89F84313@mac.com>

I have received many very good suggestions which I will give a try.  I think the term ?key shyness? is what I need to get over.

All were very good suggestions!  Thanks.

Several questions (2) about readers.  I find the Elecraft K3s, and KX3 readers along with the K42, CWGet and fldigi readers to all be equal over time.  My favorite reader is ?CW Morse? which runs on Mac OS and iOS.  They all seem to detract from the fun of the hunt in some way.

Again, thanks for the nudges and pushes which I will try.  Time to close the thread I suppose.

Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI







> On Oct 5, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.  My station is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle, Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually engage in a CW contact.  I have several very good code readers and CW keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really getting into it.
> 
> Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
> 
> If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
> 
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


From ardrhi at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 15:17:53 2018
From: ardrhi at gmail.com (Gwen Patton)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:17:53 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <779358407.7714.1538765888395@wamui-fatboy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <779358407.7714.1538765888395@wamui-fatboy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CA+nQa2OtkKD5+hgy-h0K82Lejg3dTqRpbDyg=niJ0aGVSyJCBw@mail.gmail.com>

I got a nice little mini key that seems based on the 26003, if abbreviated.
It's 3d printed by http://www.cwmorse.us and has a very smooth and balanced
feel. I made the error of not getting one with a base. But it's a very nice
key that I'll certainly use for straight key cw. I have a nice Bencher
paddle, and a Whiterook mini paddle. I built a tiny paddle from a kit at
QRPGuys.com that I haven't yet tested. But I just got a little capacitive
touch "paddle" that works nicely with the KX3 internal keyer that I found
on Ebay for about $10. I got the Bencher many years ago at a hamfest, with
a plexiglas dust cover that houses one of the old CMOS Super Keyer III's.
It works like a total champ, and has six memory buttons, and can be used as
a practice oscillator.

I have a ridiculous number of keys and paddles for someone who doesn't do
much CW.

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:58 PM Mike Morrow <kk5f at earthlink.net> wrote:

> That's a very good and comprehensive list of suggestions, Fred.  I've only
> one nit to pick in this statement:
>
> > 3.  86 the keyboard and send with paddle/bug/J-38
>
> Avoid the J-38 military straight key.  The common J-38 was used in
> military service ONLY for Morse training.  The equally-common J-37 is the
> Signal Corps key most often used with real front-line sets that might be
> exposed to combat environments.  However, the Navy Type 26003 key is the
> finest of common military straight keys.  It's what I use if forced to use
> an Asian-origin commercial ham rig.  They seem not to know how to make a
> transceiver capable of Mode A iambic keying.  I'd rub two wires together
> before I'd ever try using the horrific Mode B that almost all Asian ham
> rigs force on buyers.  I really appreciate how every Elecraft rig ever made
> allows great Mode A iambic keying, so I don't often need to break out my
> 26003 straight key.
>
> Mike / KK5F
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Oct  5 16:52:02 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:52:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <779358407.7714.1538765888395@wamui-fatboy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <779358407.7714.1538765888395@wamui-fatboy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <ab69c10f-9025-1e46-5436-6d8c778134ad@foothill.net>

Everyone is soooo very literal these days! [:-)? I used "J-38" to mean 
any straight key that suits your fancy ... i.e. keyer+paddle, bug, 
straight key.? "J-38" is just well known and shorter than "straight 
key," which I've now typed three times, with and without quotes and a 
comma.? Just need to ditch the keyboard until comfortable with your 
manual keying device, keyboards introduce a separate skill ... typing 
... into the mix.

Regarding Mode A/B:? Mode B was a misteak in the programming of an early 
Curtis keyer chip.? Or maybe Mode A was the mistake.? Might have been 
some chip other than a Curtis.? Every transceiver with a keyer I've 
owned would do both [1 FT, 2 TS, K2, K3].? Can't remember if the KX1 
would but I think it did.

Thus endeth Morse factoids for 5 Oct.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/5/2018 11:58 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:
> That's a very good and comprehensive list of suggestions, Fred.  I've only one nit to pick in this statement:
>
>> 3.? 86 the keyboard and send with paddle/bug/J-38
> Avoid the J-38 military straight key.  The common J-38 was used in military service ONLY for Morse training.  The equally-common J-37 is the Signal Corps key most often used with real front-line sets that might be exposed to combat environments.  However, the Navy Type 26003 key is the finest of common military straight keys.  It's what I use if forced to use an Asian-origin commercial ham rig.  They seem not to know how to make a transceiver capable of Mode A iambic keying.  I'd rub two wires together before I'd ever try using the horrific Mode B that almost all Asian ham rigs force on buyers.  I really appreciate how every Elecraft rig ever made allows great Mode A iambic keying, so I don't often need to break out my 26003 straight key.
>
> Mike / KK5F
>


From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com  Fri Oct  5 18:09:03 2018
From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO))
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:09:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO-What say you Wayne?
In-Reply-To: <1663bbf0ed8-1ec4-63f0@webjas-vab058.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <1663bbf0ed8-1ec4-63f0@webjas-vab058.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <1538777343747-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Art,

Did Wayne respond?

Joe
KF5WBO




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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Oct  5 19:06:08 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 16:06:08 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO-What say you Wayne?
In-Reply-To: <1538777343747-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1663bbf0ed8-1ec4-63f0@webjas-vab058.srv.aolmail.net>
	<1538777343747-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <A561E82B-B0CE-4B58-8B78-C1EA08566A2D@elecraft.com>

Hi Joe (et al),

I just reviewed this with our K-Pod firmware engineer. Going from 200 to 400 counts is more complex than it sounds because of system bandwidth limitations at the front panel RJ45 port. We still think it's possible, and we'll both be looking at it when we get a chance.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Joe Stone (KF5WBO) <kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com> wrote:
> 
> Did Wayne respond?
> 
> Joe
> KF5WBO




From n7cqr at arrl.net  Fri Oct  5 19:40:56 2018
From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 16:40:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <ab69c10f-9025-1e46-5436-6d8c778134ad@foothill.net>
References: <779358407.7714.1538765888395@wamui-fatboy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<ab69c10f-9025-1e46-5436-6d8c778134ad@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <30FE9B42-3C48-478E-9CDB-8D07B1FA1F9A@arrl.net>

I?ll throw one more activity in the mix-NAQCC (North American QRP Cw club) does a variety of CW/slow speed events throughout the year. In fact next week (Sunday 10/7 to 10/14 -0000 10/8 UTC) is the ?NA? Sprint where a number of stations will be using special callsigns like N1A,N2A,etc. I?ll be taking a stint as N7A at some point during the week. Check the NAQCC website for details and a nice newsletter.  A fun challenge is to try to work all of the N#A areas. We?ll be around the usual QRP/SKCC frequencies. 
Another idea is to try checking in to the many slow speed cw nets. I teach CW (locally-Oregon) and have a couple of recent graduates regularly checking in to these nets- a nice low pressure way to get experience.  The NAQCC website lists a number of nets. 

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley at me. com 
N7CQR at arrl.net


> On Oct 5, 2018, at 13:52, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Everyone is soooo very literal these days! [:-)  I used "J-38" to mean any straight key that suits your fancy ... i.e. keyer+paddle, bug, straight key.  "J-38" is just well known and shorter than "straight key," which I've now typed three times, with and without quotes and a comma.  Just need to ditch the keyboard until comfortable with your manual keying device, keyboards introduce a separate skill ... typing ... into the mix.
> 
> Regarding Mode A/B:  Mode B was a misteak in the programming of an early Curtis keyer chip.  Or maybe Mode A was the mistake.  Might have been some chip other than a Curtis.  Every transceiver with a keyer I've owned would do both [1 FT, 2 TS, K2, K3].  Can't remember if the KX1 would but I think it did.
> 
> Thus endeth Morse factoids for 5 Oct.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
>> On 10/5/2018 11:58 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:
>> That's a very good and comprehensive list of suggestions, Fred.  I've only one nit to pick in this statement:
>> 
>>> 3.  86 the keyboard and send with paddle/bug/J-38
>> Avoid the J-38 military straight key.  The common J-38 was used in military service ONLY for Morse training.  The equally-common J-37 is the Signal Corps key most often used with real front-line sets that might be exposed to combat environments.  However, the Navy Type 26003 key is the finest of common military straight keys.  It's what I use if forced to use an Asian-origin commercial ham rig.  They seem not to know how to make a transceiver capable of Mode A iambic keying.  I'd rub two wires together before I'd ever try using the horrific Mode B that almost all Asian ham rigs force on buyers.  I really appreciate how every Elecraft rig ever made allows great Mode A iambic keying, so I don't often need to break out my 26003 straight key.
>> 
>> Mike / KK5F
>> 
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From wa8jxm at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 19:44:07 2018
From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (Ken)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:44:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <d70a7406-b638-81fb-a02e-5667738c20f6@foothill.net>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
	<d70a7406-b638-81fb-a02e-5667738c20f6@foothill.net>
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On 10/5/18 12:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> 1. Call CQ at "your speed".
Absolutely.? At your **receiving** speed, of course.
> 3. 86 the keyboard and send with paddle/bug/J-38
I agree although I would suggest a bug as the last challenge to face.? 
I'm currently exclusively using a bug as a challenge for a decent fist. 
I've been operating CW for 55 years now.
> ...
> 8.? Check into your local NTS section/state net [usually 80 m evenings]
Look for the slow speed or training nets to get started. Many sections 
have them.? Of course, traffic nets require the ability for hardcopy on 
paper, not in your head.? When I operated the high level nets (8RN/EAN) 
I learned to print each letter at 28 wpm.

Enjoy developing your skills.

73, Ken WA8JXM

From k3wjv at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  6 03:49:24 2018
From: k3wjv at yahoo.com (Bill Stravinsky)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 07:49:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with my K3s and KX3
In-Reply-To: <F3114D99-AEF9-439B-A1CE-83CA89F84313@mac.com>
References: <62091903-3D71-48F5-85B1-71158BC6FDEB@mac.com>
	<F3114D99-AEF9-439B-A1CE-83CA89F84313@mac.com>
Message-ID: <774203998.5663444.1538812164680@mail.yahoo.com>

 A suggestion I didn't see suggested - mine is ditch the cw readers.? If you use a reader, cw is going to be purely digital and its not meant to be that.Its not ft8!? Yes get over the shy thing too.? You won't get a report card on your Qso ability.? You know what they say - the more you do it - - -.It will get to be fun, or it should.? Thats the way its supposed to work anyway, hi.

CW is a special thing but when you can get your head to read it instead of a reader it might surprise you. ? You're missing a lot with a reader I think.
Just my opinion.? GL Mike.
BillK3WJV

    On Friday, October 5, 2018, 3:19:13 PM EDT, Michael Blake via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:  
 
 I have received many very good suggestions which I will give a try.? I think the term ?key shyness? is what I need to get over.

All were very good suggestions!? Thanks.

Several questions (2) about readers.? I find the Elecraft K3s, and KX3 readers along with the K42, CWGet and fldigi readers to all be equal over time.? My favorite reader is ?CW Morse? which runs on Mac OS and iOS.? They all seem to detract from the fun of the hunt in some way.

Again, thanks for the nudges and pushes which I will try.? Time to close the thread I suppose.

Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI







> On Oct 5, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> A bit off topic but I think many Elecraft users are CW people.? My station is completely set up for good CW (K3s, KPA500, KAT500, KX3 with paddle, Vibroplex Code Warrior) and I can send and copy relatively well up to about 20 WPM but I seem to lack the interest to grab the horns and actually engage in a CW contact.? I have several very good code readers and CW keyboard applications but I believe they actually prevent me from really getting into it.
> 
> Any suggestions in how to actually create some interest or thrill that will entice me to engage in more CW operations?
> 
> If you wish to reply off line please use k9jri at Mac dot com.
> 
> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From forums at david-woolley.me.uk  Sat Oct  6 08:27:19 2018
From: forums at david-woolley.me.uk (David Woolley)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 13:27:19 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@SHACK>
Message-ID: <5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>

There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4, with step updates 
at fixed intervals.  The full implementation of ntpd is available for 
all the Windows NT family, i.e. everything after Windows 95, and 
versions or w32time that can be configured to implement the older 
version of NTP  have been supplied with Windows since at least Windows XP.

The standard ntpd always works by managing clock frequency, so there are 
no abrupt time steps unless something has gone sufficiently wrong to 
result in a step of at least 200ms.  w32time can be configured to work 
that way, although generally installing the standard (reference) version 
of ntpd is preferred.  (ntpd can be configured to almost never step the 
time.)

Although Windows is not a good platform for time keeping, both these 
approaches ought to produce times accurate to about 20ms, and only 
slowly changing with time.  In some circumstances, Linux can produce 
several orders of magnitude better results.


On 04/10/18 22:32, Mike Greenway wrote:
> As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the K3S.  Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by Dimension 4.  I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think that was a problem.  I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 correction on my computer.  I don?t think it is abnormal for the Rates on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to the computer.  Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.  Thanks to all that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.  73 Mike K4PI
> 



From K8UT at charter.net  Sat Oct  6 16:15:59 2018
From: K8UT at charter.net (Larry (K8UT))
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:15:59 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@shack>
	<5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>
Message-ID: <emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>

David

 >There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4
There is often a significant gap between Theory and Practice, and such 
is the case with using Windows as a self-regulated timepiece. True, 
Windows is a well behaved ntp client, but the default interval for 
Windows "phoning home" to resync is 7 days. In 7 days my PC has drifted 
so far that FT8 operation is impossible.

The user has two choices: use Regedit and mess with the Windows registry 
to reduce the interval; or install a time sync program. For most, the 
second option is easier.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "David Woolley" <forums at david-woolley.me.uk>
To: "Mike Greenway" <K4PI at bellsouth.net>; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 2018-10-06 08:27:19
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC

>There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4, with step 
>updates at fixed intervals.  The full implementation of ntpd is 
>available for all the Windows NT family, i.e. everything after Windows 
>95, and versions or w32time that can be configured to implement the 
>older version of NTP  have been supplied with Windows since at least 
>Windows XP.
>
>The standard ntpd always works by managing clock frequency, so there 
>are no abrupt time steps unless something has gone sufficiently wrong 
>to result in a step of at least 200ms.  w32time can be configured to 
>work that way, although generally installing the standard (reference) 
>version of ntpd is preferred.  (ntpd can be configured to almost never 
>step the time.)
>
>Although Windows is not a good platform for time keeping, both these 
>approaches ought to produce times accurate to about 20ms, and only 
>slowly changing with time.  In some circumstances, Linux can produce 
>several orders of magnitude better results.
>
>
>On 04/10/18 22:32, Mike Greenway wrote:
>>As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the 
>>K3S.  Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by 
>>Dimension 4.  I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think 
>>that was a problem.  I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and 
>>hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 
>>correction on my computer.  I don?t think it is abnormal for the Rates 
>>on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to the 
>>computer.  Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.  Thanks to all 
>>that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.  73 Mike K4PI
>>
>
>
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Oct  6 16:39:48 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 15:39:48 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@shack>
	<5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>
	<emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
Message-ID: <274A9B70-142B-469F-9D3C-F4986806CD35@blomand.net>

Or if you will, when you sit down to operate, go to Windows Time and Date and update the time.   More than adequately accurate for several hours of operation. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Larry (K8UT) <K8UT at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> David
> 
> >There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4
> There is often a significant gap between Theory and Practice, and such is the case with using Windows as a self-regulated timepiece. True, Windows is a well behaved ntp client, but the default interval for Windows "phoning home" to resync is 7 days. In 7 days my PC has drifted so far that FT8 operation is impossible.
> 
> The user has two choices: use Regedit and mess with the Windows registry to reduce the interval; or install a time sync program. For most, the second option is easier.
> 
> -larry (K8UT)
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "David Woolley" <forums at david-woolley.me.uk>
> To: "Mike Greenway" <K4PI at bellsouth.net>; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 2018-10-06 08:27:19
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
> 
>> There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4, with step updates at fixed intervals.  The full implementation of ntpd is available for all the Windows NT family, i.e. everything after Windows 95, and versions or w32time that can be configured to implement the older version of NTP  have been supplied with Windows since at least Windows XP.
>> 
>> The standard ntpd always works by managing clock frequency, so there are no abrupt time steps unless something has gone sufficiently wrong to result in a step of at least 200ms.  w32time can be configured to work that way, although generally installing the standard (reference) version of ntpd is preferred.  (ntpd can be configured to almost never step the time.)
>> 
>> Although Windows is not a good platform for time keeping, both these approaches ought to produce times accurate to about 20ms, and only slowly changing with time.  In some circumstances, Linux can produce several orders of magnitude better results.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 04/10/18 22:32, Mike Greenway wrote:
>>> As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the K3S.  Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by Dimension 4.  I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think that was a problem.  I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 correction on my computer.  I don?t think it is abnormal for the Rates on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to the computer.  Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.  Thanks to all that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.  73 Mike K4PI
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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From lists at subich.com  Sat Oct  6 18:21:41 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 18:21:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@shack>
	<5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>
	<emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
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On 2018-10-06 4:15 PM, Larry (K8UT) wrote:

> The user has two choices: use Regedit and mess with the Windows
> registry to reduce the interval; or install a time sync program. For
> most, the second option is easier.

Actually, there is a third option ... install a proper NTP service
like Meinberg NTP to replace the Windows NTP client.  Once Meinberg
is installed and configured, Windows time never drifts more than a
fraction of a millisecond.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV



From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Sat Oct  6 18:23:31 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 15:23:31 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <274A9B70-142B-469F-9D3C-F4986806CD35@blomand.net>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@shack>
	<5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>
	<emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
	<274A9B70-142B-469F-9D3C-F4986806CD35@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <cc00b965-52b4-d192-87a2-5445dbedb6fc@gmail.com>

Except, again, MS hacked NTP years ago to lose accuracy to assist their 
sloppy legacy networking, with the results being that it's considered 
'good' if within several MINUTES.? This could explain why some FT8 users 
are lagging by a second or two, which is fatal for decoding (plus it's 
not 'on' by default).

If it works for you, great, it's not by design.

Add the new NTP program over it (Dimension 4, Meinburg) and you never 
have to remember to update before playing, plus it's accurate within .02 
or less seconds.? The other (minor) bonus is that these provide tracking 
so when you boot, the median error is already known so you're accurate 
more quickly.

For me, simple just ROCKS.

Rick nhc


On 10/6/2018 1:39 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> Or if you will, when you sit down to operate, go to Windows Time and Date and update the time.   More than adequately accurate for several hours of operation.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 6, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Larry (K8UT) <K8UT at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> David
>>
>>> There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4
>> There is often a significant gap between Theory and Practice, and such is the case with using Windows as a self-regulated timepiece. True, Windows is a well behaved ntp client, but the default interval for Windows "phoning home" to resync is 7 days. In 7 days my PC has drifted so far that FT8 operation is impossible.
>>
>> The user has two choices: use Regedit and mess with the Windows registry to reduce the interval; or install a time sync program. For most, the second option is easier.
>>
>> -larry (K8UT)
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "David Woolley" <forums at david-woolley.me.uk>
>> To: "Mike Greenway" <K4PI at bellsouth.net>; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: 2018-10-06 08:27:19
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CODEC
>>
>>> There should be very little reason to use Dimension 4, with step updates at fixed intervals.  The full implementation of ntpd is available for all the Windows NT family, i.e. everything after Windows 95, and versions or w32time that can be configured to implement the older version of NTP  have been supplied with Windows since at least Windows XP.
>>>
>>> The standard ntpd always works by managing clock frequency, so there are no abrupt time steps unless something has gone sufficiently wrong to result in a step of at least 200ms.  w32time can be configured to work that way, although generally installing the standard (reference) version of ntpd is preferred.  (ntpd can be configured to almost never step the time.)
>>>
>>> Although Windows is not a good platform for time keeping, both these approaches ought to produce times accurate to about 20ms, and only slowly changing with time.  In some circumstances, Linux can produce several orders of magnitude better results.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 04/10/18 22:32, Mike Greenway wrote:
>>>> As previously posted the problem had nothing to do with CODEC or the K3S.  Problem turned out to be the time update of the computer by Dimension 4.  I had it set for updates every 1 sec as I didn?t think that was a problem.  I now have it set for 30 Mins and probably and hour would not hurt anything as every 15 secs it does about .049 correction on my computer.  I don?t think it is abnormal for the Rates on WSJT-10 to jump out of range when a time update is done to the computer.  Something you cant see on WSJT-X or JTDX.  Thanks to all that wrote with suggestions, all of them good.  73 Mike K4PI
>>>>
>>>
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From forums at david-woolley.me.uk  Sat Oct  6 20:02:01 2018
From: forums at david-woolley.me.uk (David Woolley)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 01:02:01 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] CODEC
In-Reply-To: <emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
References: <4355382EDFE54FCDAB053972944CA6D0@shack>
	<5c1b4d1b-4192-07cc-5c44-2e39638745ae@david-woolley.me.uk>
	<emd3bd867f-3ee4-41ec-a728-fccd5f84abe7@k8ut-pc>
Message-ID: <4e595633-0d03-8251-cca1-ee0715a81a3a@david-woolley.me.uk>

But if they want to install a third party time sync program they are 
better off installing W3HCF's definitive implementation of the NTP 
protocol, rather than a program that was, I believe, really designed for 
Windows 3.1/95.

In 06/10/18 21:15, Larry (K8UT) wrote:
> The user has two choices: use Regedit and mess with the Windows registry 
> to reduce the interval; or install a time sync program. For most, the 
> second option is easier.
> 


From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Oct  7 00:10:28 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 21:10:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <15c129df-119e-df02-d31f-981879026c35@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? A small sunspot group appeared this week.? It was unable to improve 
propagation.? We had a short taste of the rainy season too.? Lows dipped 
into the 30s and more leaves fell.? The layer of shrubs underneath the 
canopy have turned yellow, gold, and red. The fir trees were also 
effected; losing more needles than they have in months.? Any sort of 
breeze creates a shower of them.? The squirrels are active, they clip 
the new crop of fir cones.? When two of them are snipping cones there is 
a steady sound of cones hitting the ground and many branches on the way 
down.? One can strip a thirty foot branch in less than a minute.? The 
clear cut is creeping closer but they have dropped into a canyon so the 
noise is less.

Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

_


From d_hudson at outlook.com  Sun Oct  7 15:37:25 2018
From: d_hudson at outlook.com (Douglas Hudson)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:37:25 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Bands open
Message-ID: <MWHPR22MB0173345B8434B18ABE61E720ECE50@MWHPR22MB0173.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

10, 12, and 17 are open to the Pacific Northwest right now.

Doug, K7CUU

From rlvz at aol.com  Sun Oct  7 17:53:34 2018
From: rlvz at aol.com (rlvz at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:53:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S: Trade FTdx5000MP Limited for K3S
Message-ID: <1665085725f-1ec2-5e19@webjas-vab116.srv.aolmail.net>

Will trade my like new Yaesu FTdx-5000MP-Limited in excellent condition for K3S in similar condition.? 73, Dick- K9OM??


From rmeadows0827 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  7 19:45:50 2018
From: rmeadows0827 at yahoo.com (Roger Meadows)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:45:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 For Sale
Message-ID: <916144A5-8D2E-4CD4-82CB-5793EA5F5BB5@yahoo.com>

Just bought a new portable paddle and not using my KXPD2 anymore. Only used a few times in the field. Will sell for $95. Includes shipping within the CONUS via USPS.

Contact romeadows at icloud.com <mailto:romeadows at icloud.com> for more info.

73,
Roger

From johnn1jm at gmail.com  Sun Oct  7 23:26:05 2018
From: johnn1jm at gmail.com (John_N1JM)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:26:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted: KX3/PX3
Message-ID: <1538969165333-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I'm looking for another KX3/PX3 combo. Please contact me off list.

73, John N1JM



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From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Oct  7 23:51:55 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:51:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <8ccafe5d-7dc5-c830-2c82-20a992e936e2@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? Conditions on twenty meters were adequate.? QRN from storms. Slow 
QSB on everyone.? Forty meters was a little stronger with the storm 
noise well in the distance.? Both K6XK and K4TO are busy with new 
antennas getting ready for winter.? 160 meters was mentioned by both.? 
Dave's 40 meter antenna was good on twenty meters but much better on its 
native band.? His paired Moxon antennas beat his dipole by two S units 
on back to back tests. They also mentioned pleasant, sunny days unlike 
my fog, cold, and rain.? It is time for me to burrow into my winter 
house activities.? A few clear days this week will let me drop my 
inverted V and see what it needs for the rainy season.

 ? On 14049.5 kHz at 2200z:

K6XK - Roy - IA

K4TO - Dave - Ky

AC5P - Mike - OK

K4JPN - Steve - GA


 ? On 7047 kHz at 0000z:

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

W6JHB - Jim - CA

K4TO - Dave - KY

K6XK - Roy - IA


The elk hunters keep driving by but the nearby clear cutting is driving 
the game deeper into the canyons.? The slopes are not easy to navigate 
with all the slash piled up but the elk are better suited to climbing 
than are humans.? They are also in no hurry.

 ?? Until next week 73,

 ?????? Kevin.? KD5ONS

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From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Oct  8 04:57:56 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 01:57:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 receiver performance
Message-ID: <1538989076651-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi all,

no, it is not the message about some issue...

I would like to just share the experiences with KX3 receiver which is
working like champ.

I was able to compare it with some big Icoms during my business trip last
weeks and I was
completely shocked. Several stations on 20m CW were simply not hearable on
them while
my KX3 heard all of them comfortably. Very weak but readable ...
Only because lack of power I did not worked some of these DX stations but
thanks to APF, NR 
and low noise floor I was able to copy them on the KX3 only. Sensitivity
must be also better 
because I was not able to hear some of IBP beacons in the other radios even
although I tried 
to use all available features... 

No, I am no going to opening dispute for Icoms over here, just saying "good
job Elecraft" !

(I did not compared it to my fully upgraded and loaded K3 yet... and I hope
it is not better, hihi)



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From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  8 07:44:58 2018
From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:44:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3+KXPA100+KPA1500 band data?
References: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272@mail.yahoo.com>

Is there a way to send band data from the kx3+kxpa100 combo to the kpa1500?? I keep forgetting to change bands.
73 Eric WD6DBM

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From n4zr at comcast.net  Mon Oct  8 07:57:36 2018
From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 07:57:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Intermittent Loss of Speaker Audio
Message-ID: <f637fcc0-5440-290e-ce25-ad2e8305f2da@comcast.net>

My K3 has begun experiencing intermittent loss of speaker audio.? It 
occurs without warning, typically while I am operating but *not* in 
conjunction with events such as PTT or CW keying.? Physical connection 
to the speaker seems fine.? It also recovers spontaneously, sometimes.? 
Headphone audio continues to function perfectly throughout.? Any ideas?

-- 

73, Pete N4ZR
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From k3wjv at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  8 09:39:27 2018
From: k3wjv at yahoo.com (Bill Stravinsky)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 13:39:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3+KXPA100+KPA1500 band data?
In-Reply-To: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1438087734.798293.1538999098272@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <588452383.6475135.1539005967482@mail.yahoo.com>

 If there is no way for you to send band data from the kx3, the kpa1500 should change it's band with one transmitted dit, same as the Acom2000a.
BillK3WJV

    On Monday, October 8, 2018, 7:48:32 AM EDT, eric norris via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:  
 
 Is there a way to send band data from the kx3+kxpa100 combo to the kpa1500?? I keep forgetting to change bands.
73 Eric WD6DBM

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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct  8 10:16:53 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:16:53 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3+KXPA100+KPA1500 band data?
In-Reply-To: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1438087734.798293.1538999098272@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4264ed0a-3830-e9b2-3b73-21c720a53cc8@embarqmail.com>

Eric,

There is no quick and easy path to do that.  Your easiest solution is 
just to let the KPA1500 auto-select the band.  It has frequency sensing 
and just a brief burst of RF will cause it to change bands.

A more indirect solution is to use a band decoder like the Elecraft KRC2 
which will sense the RS-232 data and provide band data output.  You 
would have the use the KXSER cable on the KX3/KXPA100 combination and a 
USB to serial adapter (KUSB) to the computer.
You then would have to feed the KRC2 band data to the KPA1500, but the 
KRC2 has explicit bands decoded, and they would then have to be encoded 
to drive the 4 band data inputs on the KPA1500.
So as far as I know, there is no direct plug-in solution.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/8/2018 7:44 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote:
> Is there a way to send band data from the kx3+kxpa100 combo to the kpa1500?? I keep forgetting to change bands.
> 73 Eric WD6DBM

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct  8 10:36:10 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:36:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Intermittent Loss of Speaker Audio
In-Reply-To: <f637fcc0-5440-290e-ce25-ad2e8305f2da@comcast.net>
References: <f637fcc0-5440-290e-ce25-ad2e8305f2da@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <76e8a26b-92a7-f219-ab26-de3a07396d8f@embarqmail.com>

Pete,

Intermittent operation usually means a marginal connections somewhere. 
Does your K3 have the gold pins on the Front Panel?  If not, I suggest 
that you change them.

To test whether the front panel to RF Board pins are the problem, remove 
the front panel assembly and plug it back in.  If you have a couple 
drops of DeOxit, you may want to apply some sparingly.

Just removing and replugging the pins can wipe away oxidation from the 
pins and allow it to continue to work.

While not necessarily a cure, it is good as a test to try to isolate the 
problem.

BTW - the headphone amplifier is separate from the speaker audio 
amplifier.  So the fact that the headphones work OK says the rest of the 
K3 is fine.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/8/2018 7:57 AM, N4ZR wrote:
> My K3 has begun experiencing intermittent loss of speaker audio.? It 
> occurs without warning, typically while I am operating but *not* in 
> conjunction with events such as PTT or CW keying.? Physical connection 
> to the speaker seems fine.? It also recovers spontaneously, sometimes. 
> Headphone audio continues to function perfectly throughout.? Any ideas?
> 

From kz5d.arts at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 12:05:34 2018
From: kz5d.arts at gmail.com (Art Suberbielle)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:05:34 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod CTS to match VFO
Message-ID: <CAJC3qyhz--os8RtK2mO4YPnYXcas27RfdWN+dRufTnt_YT9s3w@mail.gmail.com>

Wayne,

In reading your reply I think perhaps you are misunderstanding exactly what
we are hjoping to see in new software for the K-Pod.

We want the K-Pod to use the same CTS as the VFO A. E.G. 200 CTS on VFO A
and 200 CTS on K-Pod. At present, the K-Pod turns at 50% of what is set on
VFO A.

Hopefully this won't require a lot of code to accomplish.

Thanks.

Art KZ5D

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO-What say you Wayne?
Message-ID: <A561E82B-B0CE-4B58-8B78-C1EA08566A2D at elecraft.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Joe (et al),

I just reviewed this with our K-Pod firmware engineer. Going from 200 to
400 counts is more complex than it sounds because of system bandwidth
limitations at the front panel RJ45 port. We still think it's possible, and
we'll both be looking at it when we get a chance.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Oct  8 13:28:56 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:28:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3+KXPA100+KPA1500 band data?
In-Reply-To: <588452383.6475135.1539005967482@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1438087734.798293.1538999098272.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1438087734.798293.1538999098272@mail.yahoo.com>
	<588452383.6475135.1539005967482@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6130b579-c52b-0bac-082a-05087cb24989@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/8/2018 6:39 AM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:
>   If there is no way for you to send band data from the kx3, the kpa1500 should change it's band with one transmitted dit,

Or a tap on the mic.

73, Jim K9YC


From K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET  Mon Oct  8 13:43:02 2018
From: K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET (Mike Greenway)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 13:43:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NB IF NAR/CODEC
Message-ID: <F2143F65ED92418884DDD8EF69C31A93@SHACK>

I have 2 K3 and a K3S and for some time I have noticed all 3 doing something that seems incorrect.  All the radios are all up to correct Rev levels.  For years with my normal local noise, I always ran the NB at IF Nar 1-4 most all the time with good success.  In recent months, maybe more, on Nar only when I get up to NAR 1-4 to 1-7 more noise than what I am trying to remove appears ie with no NB and S4 with some minor local line noise, at NB Nar 1-7 the noise is S6 or more.  I don?t see that on any Med and Wide.  I don?t see any difference in what band I am on but on the higher bands I have PRE 1 on.  Any input from others that might have seen this is appreciated.  I know in past years this did not occur and I have been lax in asking the question.

I see I received some criticism in regard the question on CODEC.  Someone said ask ?what did I do last?.  Well the time program was set to 1 sec many months before I used the program that indicated there was some sort of problem and it was noticed as soon as I started using the K3S.  I was only looking for some input and not blaming the K3S but since it was in the equation with the computer I had to ask.  Receiving input like that I think make some not want to even ask any legitimate questions on the forum. I did receive a lot of good info and that was much appreciated.  73 Mike

From K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET  Mon Oct  8 13:46:36 2018
From: K4PI at BELLSOUTH.NET (Mike Greenway)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 13:46:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NB IF NAR/CODEC
Message-ID: <36E92F0DB3B040E497EDC7E6DD86D9D9@SHACK>

I have 2 K3 and a K3S and for some time I have noticed all 3 doing something that seems incorrect.  All the radios are all up to correct Rev levels.  For years with my normal local noise, I always ran the NB at IF Nar 1-4 most all the time with good success.  In recent months, maybe more, on Nar only when I get up to NAR 1-4 to 1-7 more noise than what I am trying to remove appears ie with no NB and S4 with some minor local line noise, at NB Nar 1-7 the noise is S6 or more.  I don?t see that on any Med and Wide.  I don?t see any difference in what band I am on but on the higher bands I have PRE 1 on with AGC Fast or Slow.  Any input from others that might have seen this is appreciated.  I know in past years this did not occur and I have been lax in asking the question.

I actually checked at another QTH with only S2 on the meter and got the same results.

I see I received some criticism in regard the question on CODEC.  Someone said ask ?what did I do last?.  Well the time program was set to 1 sec maybe 6  months before I used the program that indicated there was some sort of problem and it was noticed as soon as I started using the K3S.  I was only looking for some input and not blaming the K3S but since it was in the equation with the computer I had to ask.  Receiving input like that I think make some not want to even ask any legitimate questions on the forum. I did receive a lot of good info and that was much appreciated.  73 Mike K4PI

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct  8 14:36:07 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:36:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NB IF NAR/CODEC
In-Reply-To: <36E92F0DB3B040E497EDC7E6DD86D9D9@SHACK>
References: <36E92F0DB3B040E497EDC7E6DD86D9D9@SHACK>
Message-ID: <279556e0-cf10-4e0d-b1ed-db84037afc67@embarqmail.com>

Mike,

If your noise source has changed, that is adequate reason the NB does 
not work as it used to.  With NB and NR there is no one solution that 
fits all noise sources.  You will just have to experiment a bit to see 
which settings are most effective.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/8/2018 1:46 PM, Mike Greenway wrote:
> I have 2 K3 and a K3S and for some time I have noticed all 3 doing something that seems incorrect.  All the radios are all up to correct Rev levels.  For years with my normal local noise, I always ran the NB at IF Nar 1-4 most all the time with good success.  In recent months, maybe more, on Nar only when I get up to NAR 1-4 to 1-7 more noise than what I am trying to remove appears ie with no NB and S4 with some minor local line noise, at NB Nar 1-7 the noise is S6 or more.  I don?t see that on any Med and Wide.  I don?t see any difference in what band I am on but on the higher bands I have PRE 1 on with AGC Fast or Slow.  Any input from others that might have seen this is appreciated.  I know in past years this did not occur and I have been lax in asking the question.
> 
> I actually checked at another QTH with only S2 on the meter and got the same results.

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Mon Oct  8 15:01:23 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:01:23 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] NB IF NAR/CODEC
In-Reply-To: <279556e0-cf10-4e0d-b1ed-db84037afc67@embarqmail.com>
References: <36E92F0DB3B040E497EDC7E6DD86D9D9@SHACK>
	<279556e0-cf10-4e0d-b1ed-db84037afc67@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <8e9d85f9-faa7-d430-9275-554585a78ae7@blomand.net>

I normally start with the IF NB OFF.? Turn on the DSP NB and adjust the 
level for what I feel is optimum effect.? Then remember the ## and set 
it to OFF.? Then turn on the IF NB, set it to what I feed is optimum 
effect.? Then go back to the DSP NB and set it to the previous value.? 
Best done when no signal, other than noise, is on the band/frequency.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/8/2018 1:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Mike,
>
> If your noise source has changed, that is adequate reason the NB does 
> not work as it used to.? With NB and NR there is no one solution that 
> fits all noise sources.? You will just have to experiment a bit to see 
> which settings are most effective.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/8/2018 1:46 PM, Mike Greenway wrote:
>> I have 2 K3 and a K3S and for some time I have noticed all 3 doing 
>> something that seems incorrect.? All the radios are all up to correct 
>> Rev levels.? For years with my normal local noise, I always ran the 
>> NB at IF Nar 1-4 most all the time with good success.? In recent 
>> months, maybe more, on Nar only when I get up to NAR 1-4 to 1-7 more 
>> noise than what I am trying to remove appears ie with no NB and S4 
>> with some minor local line noise, at NB Nar 1-7 the noise is S6 or 
>> more.? I don?t see that on any Med and Wide.? I don?t see any 
>> difference in what band I am on but on the higher bands I have PRE 1 
>> on with AGC Fast or Slow.? Any input from others that might have seen 
>> this is appreciated.? I know in past years this did not occur and I 
>> have been lax in asking the question.
>>
>> I actually checked at another QTH with only S2 on the meter and got 
>> the same results.
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From w2ljqrp at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 19:12:05 2018
From: w2ljqrp at gmail.com (Larry W2LJ)
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:12:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NAQCC Anniversaty Sprint this Tuesday Evening
Message-ID: <d46ed1da2230ad45ad41bc8f49542715@192.168.1.14>

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From dennis at mail4life.net  Mon Oct  8 19:43:37 2018
From: dennis at mail4life.net (Dennis Moore)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:43:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod CTS to match VFO
In-Reply-To: <CAJC3qyhz--os8RtK2mO4YPnYXcas27RfdWN+dRufTnt_YT9s3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJC3qyhz--os8RtK2mO4YPnYXcas27RfdWN+dRufTnt_YT9s3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1984bb9b-19b0-f5d0-2847-68ebc5cd4da1@mail4life.net>

It sounds like Wayne understands perfectly. Increasing the CTS count 
from the K-Pod adds more data load on the RJ45 port, and there may be a 
question as to whether the port can handle that increase.

73, Dennis NJ6G


On 10/8/2018 09:05, Art Suberbielle wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> In reading your reply I think perhaps you are misunderstanding exactly what
> we are hjoping to see in new software for the K-Pod.
>
> We want the K-Pod to use the same CTS as the VFO A. E.G. 200 CTS on VFO A
> and 200 CTS on K-Pod. At present, the K-Pod turns at 50% of what is set on
> VFO A.
>
> Hopefully this won't require a lot of code to accomplish.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Art KZ5D


From cbjesseeNH at comcast.net  Tue Oct  9 05:36:40 2018
From: cbjesseeNH at comcast.net (MaverickNH)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 02:36:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
Message-ID: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I got a Tuesday 9Oct 506am EST email with a private order link for the AX1
antenna http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm

No mention of AX1 antenna on the page. Needs a fix?

Bret/N4SRN



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From lladerman at earthlink.net  Tue Oct  9 06:55:25 2018
From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 03:55:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
In-Reply-To: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1539082525022-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Same issue here. I emailed support.

Lou, W0FK



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From marrotte at verizon.net  Tue Oct  9 08:23:32 2018
From: marrotte at verizon.net (Roger Marrotte)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:23:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
In-Reply-To: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <000001d45fca$e4e0b070$aea21150$@verizon.net>

Same problem here.

Roger, W1EM

____________________________________________
I got a Tuesday 9Oct 506am EST email with a private order link for the AX1
antenna http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm

No mention of AX1 antenna on the page. Needs a fix?

Bret/N4SRN


From tc3n.sk at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 08:29:18 2018
From: tc3n.sk at gmail.com (Turkish Contest Team TC3N)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 15:29:18 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
In-Reply-To: <000001d45fca$e4e0b070$aea21150$@verizon.net>
References: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<000001d45fca$e4e0b070$aea21150$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAL+Zkj9AEjbAsUS2YOQ9rr+u24Y-w-7TXanCFrGGmE7Zt+_7NQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am from Turkey ABD want to buy it from qrp-shop Germany. How many days
does it take to avaible to buy from there? Thank you.

Il mar 9 ott 2018, 15:24 Roger Marrotte <marrotte at verizon.net> ha scritto:

> Same problem here.
>
> Roger, W1EM
>
> ____________________________________________
> I got a Tuesday 9Oct 506am EST email with a private order link for the AX1
> antenna http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm
>
> No mention of AX1 antenna on the page. Needs a fix?
>
> Bret/N4SRN
>
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From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com  Tue Oct  9 09:03:49 2018
From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:03:49 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Timekeeping (was Re:  CODEC)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1992.1539088184.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.1992.1539088184.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <d9a859b0-308c-3dcc-6b58-444b1e3b7c96@googlemail.com>

In that case, just change the default time server that Windows is trying
to use, to ? pool.ntp.org ? (works anywhere in the world you have
reliable* internet.)

Or..?? north-america.pool.ntp.org?? If you're in the USA.

See? https://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/north-america?? and??
https://www.ntppool.org/en/use.html

Unless you have a really flaky CPU clock, or some other CPU hogging
issue, Windows own timekeeping service is more than good enough for the
JT modes where you only need to be +/- 1 second or better, so long as
you do not use the highly congested default? time.windows.com (or
whatever) server they set it for by default.

(* Reliable and stable, not necessarily fast, and avoid mobile internet,
the latency is too variable.)

73.

Dave G0WBX

------------------------------------------------------------------------

For me, simple just ROCKS.

Rick nhc



On 09/10/18 13:29, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> For me, simple just ROCKS.
>
> Rick nhc

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From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com  Tue Oct  9 09:14:20 2018
From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:14:20 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Timekeeping (was Re:  CODEC)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1992.1539088184.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.1992.1539088184.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <ac0a7960-4f68-c576-9d0a-580aee0ac1a0@googlemail.com>

You might as well say, why use an OS that was originally designed to run
on 16 bit hardware.

Like Windows (and I'm /not/ a MS fan)? Meinberg (and others including
NTP/NTPD itself) have moved on along with the times.

It's the NTP protocol handling that's important, not the GUI you see.??
But by all means use a recent implementation as there have been security
(DDoS) issues with some implementations of NTP in the not too distant
past.?? But that's only an issue if you plan to make "Your" time,
available to others on the Internet.

There is nothing stopping you from building your own local shack GPS
driven NTP server either.? Use a R'Pi etc.

https://satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html

or

https://robrobinette.com/pi_GPS_PPS_Time_Server.htm

for example.?? You can then sync all your shack PC's to the same time,
not needing any external internet, though it's useful for when a GPS RX
fails, or it's power supply...

73.

Dave G0WBX


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On 09/10/18 13:29, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> But if they want to install a third party time sync program they are 
> better off installing W3HCF's definitive implementation of the NTP 
> protocol, rather than a program that was, I believe, really designed for 
> Windows 3.1/95.

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From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk  Tue Oct  9 10:34:37 2018
From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:34:37 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] Timekeeping (was Re: CODEC)
In-Reply-To: <ac0a7960-4f68-c576-9d0a-580aee0ac1a0@googlemail.com>
References: <mailman.1992.1539088184.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<ac0a7960-4f68-c576-9d0a-580aee0ac1a0@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <7523b66f-87a2-1d1a-4a97-1b36d37dbb79@horizon.co.fk>

I'm running Mieinberg NTP service and all our international access is 
via geosat. NTP status is showing for the currently selected stratum 1 
source 573.909 delay, 1.022 offset and 6.176 jitter.

wsjt-x FT8 DT on most decodes are running at 0.1 to 0.3 with a few 
strays out to 0.7 to 1.0 and one W station at -2.7

Regards,

Mike VP8NO



On 09/10/2018 10:14, Dave B via Elecraft wrote:
> You might as well say, why use an OS that was originally designed to run
> on 16 bit hardware.
> 
> Like Windows (and I'm /not/ a MS fan)? Meinberg (and others including
> NTP/NTPD itself) have moved on along with the times.
> 

From bobdehaney at gmx.net  Tue Oct  9 10:42:53 2018
From: bobdehaney at gmx.net (Bob DeHaney)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:42:53 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and K3S NB
Message-ID: <000001d45fde$5c807d50$158177f0$@gmx.net>

Unfortunately our RF Noise Environment seems to be a constantly changing and growing challenge.  This explains why the NB appears to be not working as before.  I have a friend who suddenly had a really bad noise level.  Turns out his neighbor installed one of these Chinese multi-LED decorative lights.  A few years ago these LED Lamps were unknown, now they are everywhere.  I only buy name brand here in Germany as they appear to be clean.  The discount lamps radiate more than my K1.

 

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Oct  9 11:06:06 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:06:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
In-Reply-To: <CAL+Zkj9AEjbAsUS2YOQ9rr+u24Y-w-7TXanCFrGGmE7Zt+_7NQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<000001d45fca$e4e0b070$aea21150$@verizon.net>
	<CAL+Zkj9AEjbAsUS2YOQ9rr+u24Y-w-7TXanCFrGGmE7Zt+_7NQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16456986-1409-b5fa-de73-31c0d2b79a2d@embarqmail.com>

The answer depends on the plans of QRPproject, not Elecraft.

I do not know when QRPproject will have stock nor what their price may 
be.  Perhaps a direct email will provide you with your answer.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/9/2018 8:29 AM, Turkish Contest Team TC3N wrote:
> I am from Turkey ABD want to buy it from qrp-shop Germany. How many days
> does it take to avaible to buy from there? Thank you.
> 
> Il mar 9 ott 2018, 15:24 Roger Marrotte <marrotte at verizon.net> ha scritto:
> 


From rocketnj at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 11:18:16 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:18:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 sample port - change level?
Message-ID: <40AEE161-ABF4-4C25-B05F-B16F9382809E@gmail.com>

Hi All,

Is there an easy way to increase the level coming out of the sample port on the KPA1500?

Using it with an Anan 7000dle yields an s-attenuator value of 11 which is fine for QRO operation but not when the amp is in bypass.

I would like to see the output increased about 10 dB if possible.

Thanks
Dave wo2x

Sent from my iPad

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct  9 11:22:34 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:22:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
In-Reply-To: <16456986-1409-b5fa-de73-31c0d2b79a2d@embarqmail.com>
References: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<000001d45fca$e4e0b070$aea21150$@verizon.net>
	<CAL+Zkj9AEjbAsUS2YOQ9rr+u24Y-w-7TXanCFrGGmE7Zt+_7NQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<16456986-1409-b5fa-de73-31c0d2b79a2d@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <35151EF8-D08C-431F-890F-D67A2186FFB2@elecraft.com>

The wrong early-order link was sent out. Sorry about that. It will be corrected and the email re-sent soon. 

General product announcement will be later this week. The early order email was for those who signed up previously. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


From edauer at law.du.edu  Tue Oct  9 13:37:50 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:37:50 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
Message-ID: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>

For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.

I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.

Ted, KN1CBR


From jstengrevics at comcast.net  Tue Oct  9 13:45:35 2018
From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:45:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>

These predictions are completely uncertain.  Recent info presented by Tamitha Skov (space weather scientist) suggests the next cycle will not be delayed and will begin early 2019.

In a paper presented at Central States VHF, Jim Kennedy reviewed many studies & predictions and found that they differed by 115%.

In fact, nobody really knows.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
> 
> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
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From edauer at law.du.edu  Tue Oct  9 13:50:16 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:50:16 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
	<784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E94FAC23-57B6-49AD-BC8D-7ABC216E8671@law.du.edu>

As I noted, I have no opinion on the matter.

An observation attributed to everyone from Niels Bohr to Yogi Berra:  It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.

Ted, KN1CBR



?On 10/9/18, 11:45 AM, "John Stengrevics" <jstengrevics at comcast.net> wrote:

    These predictions are completely uncertain.  Recent info presented by Tamitha Skov (space weather scientist) suggests the next cycle will not be delayed and will begin early 2019.
    
    In a paper presented at Central States VHF, Jim Kennedy reviewed many studies & predictions and found that they differed by 115%.
    
    In fact, nobody really knows.
    
    John
    WA1EAZ
    
    > On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
    > 
    > For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
    > 
    > I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
    > 
    > Ted, KN1CBR
    > 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct  9 13:54:39 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 10:54:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
	<784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5BC11604-0D61-4C1E-9A36-3CEDBA9C2343@elecraft.com>

Meanwhile, many people are working DX in all modes day and night...go figure :)  My weapon of choice is a KX2, hand-held, running 10 watts to a 3-band, 4-foot-long whip. Despite the obvious compromises, I never fail to make some worldwide Qs on hiking trips -- though it is certainly easier when those band openings come along.

Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 9, 2018, at 10:45 AM, John Stengrevics <jstengrevics at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> These predictions are completely uncertain.  Recent info presented by Tamitha Skov (space weather scientist) suggests the next cycle will not be delayed and will begin early 2019.
> 
> In a paper presented at Central States VHF, Jim Kennedy reviewed many studies & predictions and found that they differed by 115%.
> 
> In fact, nobody really knows.
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
>> 
>> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR




From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Oct  9 14:37:24 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:37:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
	<784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <d807370d-fb17-4ffb-3ed9-617908a0177a@foothill.net>

Ummm ... "completely uncertain" is not true as is "nobody really 
knows."? A great deal of information and data on solar dynamics has been 
collected and analyzed in recent years which shed a lot of light [no pun 
intended] on the various solar cycles and processes, and a great deal 
*is* known and understood, just not everything.

The probability of a reprise of the late 50's Cycle 19 for Cycle 25 is 
known to be very low.? The probability of a very weak Cycle 25 is much 
higher.? Meanwhile, as N6KR points out, my radio still works and I still 
make QSO's, some with stations very far away.

I too think the article in CQ is very interesting, I read it twice.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/9/2018 10:45 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
> These predictions are completely uncertain.  Recent info presented by Tamitha Skov (space weather scientist) suggests the next cycle will not be delayed and will begin early 2019.
>
> In a paper presented at Central States VHF, Jim Kennedy reviewed many studies & predictions and found that they differed by 115%.
>
> In fact, nobody really knows.
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
>


From dave at nk7z.net  Tue Oct  9 15:14:47 2018
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole (NK7Z))
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:14:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <50236cdb-9485-e704-7814-3f347acfc6b2@nk7z.net>

Ted,
Thanks for sharing that info...  Bad as it seems...  Hopefully it turns 
out to be not what happens...

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 10/9/18 10:37 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
> 
> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
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From jstengrevics at comcast.net  Tue Oct  9 15:46:43 2018
From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 15:46:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <50236cdb-9485-e704-7814-3f347acfc6b2@nk7z.net>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
	<50236cdb-9485-e704-7814-3f347acfc6b2@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <413A43F5-0E84-4719-80B1-7BC261D8B4D6@comcast.net>

That is precisely why I posted what I did.  People take somebody?s forecast and accept it.  Despite the progress made in understanding sunspot cycles, prediction is a very uncertain undertaking.

Take any prediction with a huge block of salt.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave at nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> Ted,
> Thanks for sharing that info...  Bad as it seems...  Hopefully it turns out to be not what happens...
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL OOC for Oregon
> 
> On 10/9/18 10:37 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
>> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
>> Ted, KN1CBR
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From josh at voodoolab.com  Tue Oct  9 15:51:52 2018
From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:51:52 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
	<784AEE59-E09E-4C58-826E-BDE0B2584B2B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FBFA1D05-C858-4DFD-8122-7DF30ACD0459@voodoolab.com>

If any of Jim Kennedy's (K6MIO/KH6) talks about solar predictions are available online, they are really fantastic. He's an authority on the subject. 

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Oct 9, 2018, at 10:45 AM, John Stengrevics <jstengrevics at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> These predictions are completely uncertain.  Recent info presented by Tamitha Skov (space weather scientist) suggests the next cycle will not be delayed and will begin early 2019.
> 
> In a paper presented at Central States VHF, Jim Kennedy reviewed many studies & predictions and found that they differed by 115%.
> 
> In fact, nobody really knows.
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ


From k9ztv at socket.net  Tue Oct  9 16:12:25 2018
From: k9ztv at socket.net (KENT TRIMBLE)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 15:12:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <5d810848-8539-d6da-f825-5f01c12f5fbe@socket.net>

One day while [Chicken Little] is walking an acorn falls from a tree, 
and hits the top of her little head.

"My, oh, my, the sky is falling. I must run and tell the lion about it," 
- says Chicken Little and she begins to run.

She runs and runs and runs and runs.

73,

Kent? K9ZTV



On 10/9/2018 12:37 PM, someone wrote:
> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?
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From pubx1 at af2z.net  Tue Oct  9 17:59:30 2018
From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:59:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
References: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
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I'd pay more attention to predictions based upon theoretical 
considerations. Those based upon historical data patterns, statistical 
interpretation, curve fitting, etc are about as useful as stock market 
or global climate predictions. Someone can always take a bunch of 
historical data and come up with a clever scheme to accurately account 
for past events, but when it comes to predicting the future it falls to 
pieces.

I'll be doing CW in any case. That's my prediction.

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 10/09/18 13:37, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
> 
> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
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From xdavid at cis-broadband.com  Tue Oct  9 18:10:03 2018
From: xdavid at cis-broadband.com (David Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 15:10:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <0DE082C2-8CF3-4E6D-9BAB-CF7FCC355FF8@law.du.edu>
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I have very little doubt that the next sunspot cycle will be pretty 
weak.? The long term trend has been pretty obvious in general. However, 
it seems erroneous that they would predict a delay in the start when the 
first (albeit weak) sunspot of Cycle 25 (opposite polarity) has just 
recently been spotted.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/12/it-appears-solar-cycle-25-has-begun-solar-cyle-24-one-of-the-shortest-and-weakest-ever/

http://www.stce.be/node/359

And I've seen no scientific analysis at all that says there won't be 
some sort of maximum at all.? NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center 
even expects a solar maximum roughly the same as for Cycle 24.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/images/u33/What%20Happened%20to%20Those%20Sunspots.pdf

Who knows what the actual story will be (I certainly don't), but I'm 
going to place a CQ article fairly far down my list of credible sources.

73,
Dave?? AB7E


On 10/9/2018 10:37 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported studies,  ? . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could be the last solar maximum we?ll see for a few decades . . . .?  Guess I?d better gear up for FT8.
>
> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the article.
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Oct  9 19:13:30 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:13:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
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Mike,

If you did not sign up on the "interested" lists available at several 
hamfests, then you are out of luck.  Wait for the announcements next week.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/9/2018 1:27 PM, Michael Harriman zlink33 at gmail.com [KX3] wrote:
> Where can I get the early order link?
> 
> Mike H.
> NT6H
> 
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 08:25 Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com 
> <mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com> [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>     __
> 
>     The wrong early-order link was sent out. Sorry about that. It will
>     be corrected and the email re-sent soon.
> 
>     General product announcement will be later this week. The early
>     order email was for those who signed up previously.
> 
>     73,
>     Wayne
>     N6KR
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From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Oct  9 20:43:57 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:43:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25
In-Reply-To: <4086e082-d329-3330-5a34-11e4428ab9f3@cis-broadband.com>
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Folks - Lets close the thread. We're well past the single topic posting limit in 
one day.

73,
Eric
mod-erator
/elecraft.com/

On 10/9/2018 3:10 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> I have very little doubt that the next sunspot cycle will be pretty weak.? The 
> long term trend has been pretty obvious in general. However, it seems 
> erroneous that they would predict a delay in the start when the first (albeit 
> weak) sunspot of Cycle 25 (opposite polarity) has just recently been spotted.
>
> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/12/it-appears-solar-cycle-25-has-begun-solar-cyle-24-one-of-the-shortest-and-weakest-ever/ 
>
>
> http://www.stce.be/node/359


From johnn1jm at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 23:16:08 2018
From: johnn1jm at gmail.com (John_N1JM)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:16:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3s/P3
Message-ID: <1539141368942-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

K3S-F Transceiver #11139
100W upgrade for K3/K3S, Factory Installed 
ATU for K3/K3S, Factory Installed
K3 TCXO 1ppm, factory installed
2.7kHz Elecraft Filter
K3 500 Hz, 5 Pole Filter, factory installed 
KRX3A 2nd RX Factory Installed
KFL3A-2.7K Filter installed in KRX3A
K3 500 Hz, 5 Pole Filter, factory installed in KRX3A
K3 5 & 6 pole filter matching to 40 Hz 
P3 Panadapter for the K3 - Factory Assembled 
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check but wait to clear, USPS MO. No trades. Will not split. 

Please contact off list.

73, John N1JM





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From buddy at brannan.name  Wed Oct 10 00:21:17 2018
From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:21:17 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
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Reputable companies don?t make mistakes? Oh yeah?that?s pretty funny right there. For serious dude. S**t happens. C?mon, you can?t seriously believe this. The biggest of companies have made mistakes in website addresses, software with bugs that didn?t get squashed in time, you name it. But let?s talk about Elecraft in specific for a minute, because, yeah, impugning Elecraft?s character is kind of personal. For me, anyway, and, I suspect, for others here. 

First, longevity. Do you really think that a company, especially one serving a close-knit community like hams, would really be able to survive that long, and more to the point, with such a loyal following as Elecraft has? Elecraft has been here for 20 years more or less, and far as I know, it?s not showing any signs of going anywhere.

Second, track record. Track record with Elecraft is one of those good news/bad news scenarios. Good news: they don?t release somethinguntil it?s ready and relatively bug-free. Nothing is completely bug-free, and certainly when you?re talking about software-defined things, features can be added or completed later. If hardware modifications need to be introduced, they are introduced at reasonable cost, free if possible, generally user installable, and without resorting to ?Oh hey, here y?all, buy another radio.? The downside to this is that sometimes, they are, as they say, over optimistic about release dates, so preorders may go unfulfilled for longer than the preorderers would like. Except, and here?s the good part, they don?t actually charge you until your preorder ships. Oh, I expect that they could, and most people wouldn?t complain too loudly, but they don?t. The worst thing that we have to deal with is?a wait. Such a first world problem. Rememberthe KX3? I do. I bought myself one as a sort of 25-year hamiversary present to myself. And I remember well the nail biting as its initial shipping dates slipped. But eureka, I got one, and I even got one before field day, and I even got one with a sub-500 serial number. And that was with an order that was, what, the day after Christmas, maybe 12 hours after the ordering window opened. Would a not reputable company achieve such loyalty that *that many* people stood in line for *that long*? 

OK, now let?s talk about service. One year warranties are pretty standard. But these guys will really go that extra mile for their customers. Everyone from the sales and customer service folks, to the tech support and repair folks, up to and including Wayne and Eric themselves. If something happens during any part of the resales to way after care, all of those guys bend over backwards to make it right. I?ve seen some cases where guys were offered a full and complete refund because they were that unhappy with some aspect of their Elecraft experience, and that very far outside the normal sort of parameters. Elecraft stands very firmly behind their offerings, and the ham community has taken notice. It?s no accident that new stuff is as eagerly anticipated as it is. 

Finally, and really I mean it, because if you?ve read this far you probably wish I?d shut up now please, there?s Wayne and Eric. They?re both on this list. They respond to emails personally. They offer help and guidance themselves. What other major ham radio company are you going to see that much hands-on involvement with the unwashed masses? Sure, it?s true that they?re both active hams, use the gear themselves, and likely as not, build things that they themselves love to own? Heck?Wayne said as much about the KX3 and the KX2. Look, these are top notch guys, straight up, passionate, and with a real heart for both the hobby and the community?not just the hardware. I?ve had several pleasant emails exchanges with Wayne, who was always patient, always gave me his full attention, and was never dismissive of my admittedly niche concerns. In short, when you question Elecraft?s integrity, you question *their* *personal* integrity, and I, at least, will stand up against that. For what it?s worth, which is, admittedly, very little. 

Anyone care to refute any of these points? Bring it.

Vy 73, de KB5ELV

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Paul pheaton108 at comcast.net [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Isn't that like you are on your dream vacation to Hawaii and they announce that your flight is ready but it is broken?
> 
> Reputable companies do not do this!
> 
> Paul W3PMH
> 
> 
> On 10/9/2018 7:13 PM, Don Wilhelm donwilh at embarqmail.com [KX3] wrote:
>>  
>> Mike,
>> 
>> If you did not sign up on the "interested" lists available at several 
>> hamfests, then you are out of luck. Wait for the announcements next week.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 10/9/2018 1:27 PM, Michael Harriman zlink33 at gmail.com [KX3] wrote:
>> > Where can I get the early order link?
>> > 
>> > Mike H.
>> > NT6H
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 08:25 Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com 
>> > <mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com> [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com 
>> > <mailto:KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > __
>> > 
>> > The wrong early-order link was sent out. Sorry about that. It will
>> > be corrected and the email re-sent soon.
>> > 
>> > General product announcement will be later this week. The early
>> > order email was for those who signed up previously.
>> > 
>> > 73,
>> > Wayne
>> > N6KR
>> > 
>> > -- 
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>> > Michael Harriman
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
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From Gary at ka1j.com  Wed Oct 10 02:10:49 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 02:10:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
Message-ID: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>

My 30 year old heil element finally bit 
the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4 
hand-held mic and am trying to get it 
adjusted.

I checked in with a local net and was told 
there is a kind of clipping on my words, 
like the ends of some word were being cut 
off. Another report said it sounded more 
like there was an artificial sound 
in-between the syllables, that it wasn't 
on the peaks but noted in the the troughs, 
perhaps a bit of clicking in there.

I don't hear any difficulties with the 
monitor, everything sounds like normal 
words with no distortion. I'm not using 
VOX and have no idea what I might try 
looking at to resolve this. 

As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there 
a set of values with the 8 bands to give 
it more of a character of a Heil HC4 
element or something well suited for DX?

Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX 
EQ & what I might try doing to resolve 
this?

73,

Gary
KA1J

From indians at xsmail.com  Wed Oct 10 06:46:45 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 03:46:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 1.5V recharchable AA cells for KX3?
Message-ID: <1539168405676-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi all,

did anybody tested these PURE ENERGY RAM cells AA size 1,5V / 3000mAh in
KX3?
I found in spec. that they are Alkaline-Manganese technology cells which are
not dedicated
for permanent high current (over 1A) consumption equipment...

It is promising 12V instead of 9.6V in 8pcs pack. the only external charger
should be used as 
same as LiPol...

Thank for info.





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From k1tl at cox.net  Wed Oct 10 07:32:31 2018
From: k1tl at cox.net (Tom Lizak)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 07:32:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Loss of Output
Message-ID: <001501d4608c$eeeeeab0$ccccc010$@net>

Hi Gang,

 

Was doing the New England WX Net this AM on 75m and all of a sudden, NO
OUTPUT...hmmm!

 

I put it into PA By-pass and still nothing.  I can hear the tone in another
RX whether on PA or by-pass but NADA on the watt meter.

 

Before I send it to the "Mother Ship", I was wondering if this could be the
infamous PA connector pin issues ?  PA temp @ 25C which is ambient temp of
the room ATM.

K3 s/n 00184.

 

HELP !

73

Tom/K1TL...


From ekacura at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 10 08:08:19 2018
From: ekacura at yahoo.com (edward kacura)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 08:08:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
Message-ID: <FBC90A66-2CAC-4961-8537-9F155E341A6B@yahoo.com>

I have to agree with Buddy 100% !!!
I?ve owned Elecraft radios for almost 10 years now, it?s all I own !!
I had my KX3 two weeks (s/n 0045) and a glitch appeared, couldn?t use the radio. I emailed Elecraft on a Sunday night around 10pm, not expecting to hear from them til Monday morning.
I got an email less than half an hour later, from Wayne no less! He said he?d be on it first thing Monday morning and let me know.
He emailed me Tuesday morning and had me call him later, he spent an hour on the phone helping me reboot the KX3 ! That was April 2012, the KX3 has operated just fine since than !
That left a lasting impression on me to this day, Wayne and Eric and the crew at Elecraft are the best IMHO !!
I?m an Elecraft junkie for life......thank you Wayne and Eric !!

73 de Ed
N7EDK 
Bradenton, FL

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 10, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:
> 
> Reputable companies don?t make mistakes? Oh yeah?that?s pretty funny right there. For serious dude. S**t happens. C?mon, you can?t seriously believe this. The biggest of companies have made mistakes in website addresses, software with bugs that didn?t get squashed in time, you name it. But let?s talk about Elecraft in specific for a minute, because, yeah, impugning Elecraft?s character is kind of personal. For me, anyway, and, I suspect, for others here. 
> 
> First, longevity. Do you really think that a company, especially one serving a close-knit community like hams, would really be able to survive that long, and more to the point, with such a loyal following as Elecraft has? Elecraft has been here for 20 years more or less, and far as I know, it?s not showing any signs of going anywhere.
> 
> Second, track record. Track record with Elecraft is one of those good news/bad news scenarios. Good news: they don?t release somethinguntil it?s ready and relatively bug-free. Nothing is completely bug-free, and certainly when you?re talking about software-defined things, features can be added or completed later. If hardware modifications need to be introduced, they are introduced at reasonable cost, free if possible, generally user installable, and without resorting to ?Oh hey, here y?all, buy another radio.? The downside to this is that sometimes, they are, as they say, over optimistic about release dates, so preorders may go unfulfilled for longer than the preorderers would like. Except, and here?s the good part, they don?t actually charge you until your preorder ships. Oh, I expect that they could, and most people wouldn?t complain too loudly, but they don?t. The worst thing that we have to deal with is?a wait. Such a first world problem. Rememberthe KX3? I do. I bought myself one as a sort of 25-year hamiversary present to myself. And I remember well the nail biting as its initial shipping dates slipped. But eureka, I got one, and I even got one before field day, and I even got one with a sub-500 serial number. And that was with an order that was, what, the day after Christmas, maybe 12 hours after the ordering window opened. Would a not reputable company achieve such loyalty that *that many* people stood in line for *that long*? 
> 
> OK, now let?s talk about service. One year warranties are pretty standard. But these guys will really go that extra mile for their customers. Everyone from the sales and customer service folks, to the tech support and repair folks, up to and including Wayne and Eric themselves. If something happens during any part of the resales to way after care, all of those guys bend over backwards to make it right. I?ve seen some cases where guys were offered a full and complete refund because they were that unhappy with some aspect of their Elecraft experience, and that very far outside the normal sort of parameters. Elecraft stands very firmly behind their offerings, and the ham community has taken notice. It?s no accident that new stuff is as eagerly anticipated as it is. 
> 
> Finally, and really I mean it, because if you?ve read this far you probably wish I?d shut up now please, there?s Wayne and Eric. They?re both on this list. They respond to emails personally. They offer help and guidance themselves. What other major ham radio company are you going to see that much hands-on involvement with the unwashed masses? Sure, it?s true that they?re both active hams, use the gear themselves, and likely as not, build things that they themselves love to own? Heck?Wayne said as much about the KX3 and the KX2. Look, these are top notch guys, straight up, passionate, and with a real heart for both the hobby and the community?not just the hardware. I?ve had several pleasant emails exchanges with Wayne, who was always patient, always gave me his full attention, and was never dismissive of my admittedly niche concerns. In short, when you question Elecraft?s integrity, you question *their* *personal* integrity, and I, at least, will stand up against that. For what it?s worth, which is, admittedly, very little. 
> 
> Anyone care to refute any of these points? Bring it.
> 
> Vy 73, de KB5ELV
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Paul pheaton108 at comcast.net [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't that like you are on your dream vacation to Hawaii and they announce that your flight is ready but it is broken?
>> 
>> Reputable companies do not do this!
>> 
>> Paul W3PMH
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/9/2018 7:13 PM, Don Wilhelm donwilh at embarqmail.com [KX3] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike,
>>> 
>>> If you did not sign up on the "interested" lists available at several 
>>> hamfests, then you are out of luck. Wait for the announcements next week.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>>> On 10/9/2018 1:27 PM, Michael Harriman zlink33 at gmail.com [KX3] wrote:
>>>> Where can I get the early order link?
>>>> 
>>>> Mike H.
>>>> NT6H
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 08:25 Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com 
>>>> <mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com> [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> __
>>>> 
>>>> The wrong early-order link was sent out. Sorry about that. It will
>>>> be corrected and the email re-sent soon.
>>>> 
>>>> General product announcement will be later this week. The early
>>>> order email was for those who signed up previously.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Harriman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Oct 10 08:17:52 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 07:17:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <dbed3aac-955b-b5d5-3dbe-5f3783a9d95e@blomand.net>

I would look closely at the ALC level and the CMP level to see that the 
new mike, which has more output, is not driving things into 
saturation.??? Likewise, as Jim, K9YC says, use the TX EQ to get rid of 
some of the low end, thus not to suck up power which is not heard on the 
other end.??? And check to see that the mike is not over driving the 
input stage.? ? If your MIC gain is less than about 20 and the menu is 
set for higher gain, then set the gain to a lower value per the menu and 
adjust the MIC gain for a higher value to attain correct ALC action of 5 
to 7 bars. ?? See page 22 and 30 in the manual.

These radios really sound GREAT when all is adjusted correctly.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/10/2018 1:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> My 30 year old heil element finally bit
> the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4
> hand-held mic and am trying to get it
> adjusted.
>
> I checked in with a local net and was told
> there is a kind of clipping on my words,
> like the ends of some word were being cut
> off. Another report said it sounded more
> like there was an artificial sound
> in-between the syllables, that it wasn't
> on the peaks but noted in the the troughs,
> perhaps a bit of clicking in there.
>
> I don't hear any difficulties with the
> monitor, everything sounds like normal
> words with no distortion. I'm not using
> VOX and have no idea what I might try
> looking at to resolve this.
>
> As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there
> a set of values with the 8 bands to give
> it more of a character of a Heil HC4
> element or something well suited for DX?
>
> Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX
> EQ & what I might try doing to resolve
> this?
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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From bobdehaney at gmx.net  Wed Oct 10 08:46:28 2018
From: bobdehaney at gmx.net (Bob DeHaney)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:46:28 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Cycle 25
Message-ID: <004001d46097$438ed7b0$caac8710$@gmx.net>

The main problem regarding Cycle 25 is that I won?t be here for Cycle 26.

 

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T (Licensed since 1960)


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Oct 10 09:49:36 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:49:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Loss of Output
In-Reply-To: <001501d4608c$eeeeeab0$ccccc010$@net>
References: <001501d4608c$eeeeeab0$ccccc010$@net>
Message-ID: <4e08bbef-4d19-0385-db52-f192b9a9616b@embarqmail.com>

Tom,

The PA voltage connector pin problem will normally result in an ERR 12V 
message.

It sounds like something has just gotten "mixed up".

Do you have a saved configuration file for that K3?  If so, you may want 
to try doing a Reset to Factory Defaults (EEINIT)and then restore the 
configuration file from K3 Utility.  If you do not have a saved 
configuration file, you will have to install all the options manually 
and go through the calibration procedures.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/10/2018 7:32 AM, Tom Lizak wrote:
> Hi Gang,
> 
>   
> 
> Was doing the New England WX Net this AM on 75m and all of a sudden, NO
> OUTPUT...hmmm!
> 
>   
> 
> I put it into PA By-pass and still nothing.  I can hear the tone in another
> RX whether on PA or by-pass but NADA on the watt meter.
> 
>   
> 
> Before I send it to the "Mother Ship", I was wondering if this could be the
> infamous PA connector pin issues ?  PA temp @ 25C which is ambient temp of
> the room ATM.
> 
> K3 s/n 00184.
> 
>   
> 
> HELP !
> 
> 73
> 
> Tom/K1TL...
> 
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From hhoyt at mebtel.net  Wed Oct 10 11:02:47 2018
From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:02:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 174, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2114.1539168422.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.2114.1539168422.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <f94e07b5-8890-6e5a-c52d-8eec913f113e@mebtel.net>

Hi Peter,

Although we have not tested that specific brand of alkaline cell, in 
general alkaline cells when compared to NiMH or LI cells show much 
higher internal resistance.? This is of course why they are not as 
suitable for high-current use, and though the Duracell cells also 
measure 1.55 V open-circuit, when drawing any significant current (>250 
mA) they quickly sag to less than 1.3 V.? We have tested a Duracell 
alkaline, the results are here: https://proaudioeng.com/duracell-alkaline/

The rechargable alkaline technology has been around for quite a while, 
Eveready used to sell them, but due to charging difficulties such as 
cells leaking during charge, they were discontinued.? I suggest using 
them in an external holder until you are sure they will behave...

Cheers & 73,
Howie - WA4PSC
www.proaudioeng.com


On 10/10/2018 6:47 AM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> did anybody tested these PURE ENERGY RAM cells AA size 1,5V / 3000mAh in
> KX3?
> I found in spec. that they are Alkaline-Manganese technology cells which are
> not dedicated
> for permanent high current (over 1A) consumption equipment...
>
> It is promising 12V instead of 9.6V in 8pcs pack. the only external charger
> should be used as
> same as LiPol...
>
> Thank for info.


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Oct 10 11:29:32 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:29:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>

Gary,

If you just plugged in the MH4 and turned on bias, then I suggest that 
may be the cause of the problem.
Assuming you had the K3 set for the low output Heil microphone, you 
should change the MIC SEL menu to FP.L bias.  If you have MIC SEL still 
set for FP.H, you may be overdriving the mic preamp.  The MH2 has a high 
output level, so you need only low gain in the K3.

Then initially set the compression to 0 and set the MIC GAIN to produce 
5 to 7 bars on the ALC meter while speaking into the microphone in a 
normal voice.

Once that is done, set the compression to a moderate level of your choice.

As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the lower 
2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down a bit as 
well - that will increase your "talk power" while not wasting power 
trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not needed for 
intelligibility.  If you are into ESSB, you may differ, but ham radio is 
not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications effectiveness.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/10/2018 2:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> My 30 year old heil element finally bit
> the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4
> hand-held mic and am trying to get it
> adjusted.
> 
> I checked in with a local net and was told
> there is a kind of clipping on my words,
> like the ends of some word were being cut
> off. Another report said it sounded more
> like there was an artificial sound
> in-between the syllables, that it wasn't
> on the peaks but noted in the the troughs,
> perhaps a bit of clicking in there.
> 
> I don't hear any difficulties with the
> monitor, everything sounds like normal
> words with no distortion. I'm not using
> VOX and have no idea what I might try
> looking at to resolve this.
> 
> As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there
> a set of values with the 8 bands to give
> it more of a character of a Heil HC4
> element or something well suited for DX?
> 
> Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX
> EQ & what I might try doing to resolve
> this?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Wed Oct 10 12:31:44 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:31:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <1eaa9a3b-53fc-0d9a-e04d-f74be0280d9a@triconet.org>

And if all of this fails look for a blown HPA.

Wes? N7WS

On 10/10/2018 8:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Gary,
>
> If you just plugged in the MH4 and turned on bias, then I suggest that may be 
> the cause of the problem.
> Assuming you had the K3 set for the low output Heil microphone, you should 
> change the MIC SEL menu to FP.L bias.? If you have MIC SEL still set for FP.H, 
> you may be overdriving the mic preamp. The MH2 has a high output level, so you 
> need only low gain in the K3.
>
> Then initially set the compression to 0 and set the MIC GAIN to produce 5 to 7 
> bars on the ALC meter while speaking into the microphone in a normal voice.
>
> Once that is done, set the compression to a moderate level of your choice.
>
> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the lower 2 
> bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down a bit as well - 
> that will increase your "talk power" while not wasting power trying to 
> transmit those low frequencies which are not needed for intelligibility.? If 
> you are into ESSB, you may differ, but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion, 
> it is about communications effectiveness.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/10/2018 2:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
>> My 30 year old heil element finally bit
>> the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4
>> hand-held mic and am trying to get it
>> adjusted.
>>
>> I checked in with a local net and was told
>> there is a kind of clipping on my words,
>> like the ends of some word were being cut
>> off. Another report said it sounded more
>> like there was an artificial sound
>> in-between the syllables, that it wasn't
>> on the peaks but noted in the the troughs,
>> perhaps a bit of clicking in there.
>>
>> I don't hear any difficulties with the
>> monitor, everything sounds like normal
>> words with no distortion. I'm not using
>> VOX and have no idea what I might try
>> looking at to resolve this.
>>
>> As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there
>> a set of values with the 8 bands to give
>> it more of a character of a Heil HC4
>> element or something well suited for DX?
>>
>> Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX
>> EQ & what I might try doing to resolve
>> this?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gary
>> KA1J
>> ______________________________________________________________ 


From bob at hogbytes.com  Wed Oct 10 12:51:11 2018
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:51:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 1.5V recharchable AA cells for KX3?
In-Reply-To: <1539168405676-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1539168405676-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1539190271692-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I have not used them, however I looked at them and the discharge curve shows
a very steep drop in output voltage very early on in the discharge cycle
(15%).  Also having to remove them continually increases the potential to
damage the ribbon cable. so I choose to stick with Eneloops



--
Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/

From marklgoldberg at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 13:30:06 2018
From: marklgoldberg at gmail.com (Mark Goldberg)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:30:06 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] 1.5V recharchable AA cells for KX3?
In-Reply-To: <1539190271692-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1539168405676-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1539190271692-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAKn+a3txc=LeS+WmOAqucANkY-nsKz8zi20A9a-tnxbnjTScjw@mail.gmail.com>

Amazon reviews are not good for similar cells of the same brand, lots of
references to them popping and leaking chemicals out, sometimes even with
the supposed right charger. They also are reported to lose capacity quickly
with a few discharge cycles. I also expect that 3000 mAh is an
exaggeration.  I would not risk my expensive radio with them.

I just use external 4 cell LiFePO4 packs, still going strong after may
years and discharge cycles. Voltage holds up throughout the discharge cycle.

73,

Mark
W7MLG



On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:51 AM Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:

> I have not used them, however I looked at them and the discharge curve
> shows
> a very steep drop in output voltage very early on in the discharge cycle
> (15%).  Also having to remove them continually increases the potential to
> damage the ribbon cable. so I choose to stick with Eneloops
>
>
>
> --
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From lists at subich.com  Wed Oct 10 14:07:21 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:07:21 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <cbcd5642-75e0-45b5-b03f-954bdbc19c9d@subich.com>


If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
"communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:

                                   -- SHURE --
            HC4     HC5    D-104   444    SM58
    50      -16     -16     -16    -16      -8
   100      -16     -16     -10    -16      -2
   200      -16      -3      -4     -7       0
   400       -4      -2      -3     -2      -1
   800       -0      -2      -1      0      -1
  1600       +5      +2      +3     +3      +0
  2400      +10      +5      +9     +7      +1
  3200      +10      +6     +13    +12      +4

Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves.   The SM58 data comes from
Shure's data sheet.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> 
> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the lower 
> 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down a bit as 
> well - that will increase your "talk power" while not wasting power 
> trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not needed for 
> intelligibility.? If you are into ESSB, you may differ, but ham radio is 
> not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications effectiveness.
> 

The typical

From w5tm001 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 14:26:49 2018
From: w5tm001 at gmail.com (Ed gilliland)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:26:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Bar Cursor
Message-ID: <c0e45f42-29bc-b363-e0f0-4c377df6aa4b@gmail.com>

My P3 cursors have disappeared.? The menu selections are there but the 
cursors do not appear when selected.? I have the latest P3 firmware loaded.

Ed W5TM


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Oct 10 15:20:27 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:20:27 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <cbcd5642-75e0-45b5-b03f-954bdbc19c9d@subich.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>
	<cbcd5642-75e0-45b5-b03f-954bdbc19c9d@subich.com>
Message-ID: <7ad7cf56-68db-e8b5-0183-0e03bbac15ad@blomand.net>

For my SM58 and my K3S I use the following:

50 Hz ?? -16

100 Hz? -16

200 Hz? - 9

400 Hz ?? 0

800 Hz ??? 0

1600 Hz ? 0

2400 Hz? +3

3200Hz ? +6

The Behringer XM8500 dynamic mike gives identical performance and it 
costs only $20.??? Heard one and just had to try it.? I can swap between 
the SM58 and the XM8500 and folks that I rag chew with on a regular 
basis can't tell the difference.?? Even the machining pattern on the 
base is the same on both mikes.?? And in looking a the elements, they 
too appear to be the same.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/10/2018 1:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
> needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
> "communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:
>
> ????????????????????????????????? -- SHURE --
> ?????????? HC4???? HC5??? D-104?? 444??? SM58
> ?? 50????? -16???? -16???? -16??? -16????? -8
> ? 100????? -16???? -16???? -10??? -16????? -2
> ? 200????? -16????? -3????? -4???? -7?????? 0
> ? 400?????? -4????? -2????? -3???? -2????? -1
> ? 800?????? -0????? -2????? -1????? 0????? -1
> ?1600?????? +5????? +2????? +3???? +3????? +0
> ?2400????? +10????? +5????? +9???? +7????? +1
> ?3200????? +10????? +6???? +13??? +12????? +4
>
> Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
> HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves.?? The SM58 data comes from
> Shure's data sheet.
>
> 73,
>
> ?? ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>
>> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the 
>> lower 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down 
>> a bit as well - that will increase your "talk power" while not 
>> wasting power trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not 
>> needed for intelligibility.? If you are into ESSB, you may differ, 
>> but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications 
>> effectiveness.
>>
>
> The typical
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From lists at subich.com  Wed Oct 10 15:56:27 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:56:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <7ad7cf56-68db-e8b5-0183-0e03bbac15ad@blomand.net>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
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The SM58 is representative of a wide variety of the hand-held
"vocal" mics by many manufacturers.  It would not surprise me
if they didn't use a common element - probably manufactured
off shore - which means the read difference would be in mounting
and the wind screen which would effect handling/wind noise and
not particularly impact the response.

 > For my SM58 and my K3S I use the following:
 >
 > 50 Hz   -16
 > 100 Hz  -16
 > 200 Hz  - 9
 > 400 Hz    0
 > 800 Hz    0
 > 1600 Hz   0
 > 2400 Hz  +3
 > 3200Hz   +6

For my voice, I like to set 800 Hz at -10 dB (not much energy
in that band so I reduce the room noise) and then +3/+5/+6 at
1600/2400/3200 (a smooth 3 dB/octave preemphasis).  For "DX",
the +3/+5/+6 can be pushed to +5/+9/+10 (5 dB/octave) to
emulate the HC4.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-10 3:20 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> For my SM58 and my K3S I use the following:
> 
> 50 Hz ?? -16
> 
> 100 Hz? -16
> 
> 200 Hz? - 9
> 
> 400 Hz ?? 0
> 
> 800 Hz ??? 0
> 
> 1600 Hz ? 0
> 
> 2400 Hz? +3
> 
> 3200Hz ? +6
> 
> The Behringer XM8500 dynamic mike gives identical performance and it 
> costs only $20.??? Heard one and just had to try it.? I can swap between 
> the SM58 and the XM8500 and folks that I rag chew with on a regular 
> basis can't tell the difference.?? Even the machining pattern on the 
> base is the same on both mikes.?? And in looking a the elements, they 
> too appear to be the same.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> On 10/10/2018 1:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
>> needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
>> "communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:
>>
>> ????????????????????????????????? -- SHURE --
>> ?????????? HC4???? HC5??? D-104?? 444??? SM58
>> ?? 50????? -16???? -16???? -16??? -16????? -8
>> ? 100????? -16???? -16???? -10??? -16????? -2
>> ? 200????? -16????? -3????? -4???? -7?????? 0
>> ? 400?????? -4????? -2????? -3???? -2????? -1
>> ? 800?????? -0????? -2????? -1????? 0????? -1
>> ?1600?????? +5????? +2????? +3???? +3????? +0
>> ?2400????? +10????? +5????? +9???? +7????? +1
>> ?3200????? +10????? +6???? +13??? +12????? +4
>>
>> Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
>> HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves.?? The SM58 data comes from
>> Shure's data sheet.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ?? ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>>
>>> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the 
>>> lower 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down 
>>> a bit as well - that will increase your "talk power" while not 
>>> wasting power trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not 
>>> needed for intelligibility.? If you are into ESSB, you may differ, 
>>> but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications 
>>> effectiveness.
>>>
>>
>> The typical




From ny9h at arrl.net  Wed Oct 10 16:47:20 2018
From: ny9h at arrl.net (bill steffey)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:47:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <684afbf4-3cdf-5554-476f-6e2cc5db27e2@subich.com>
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	<7ad7cf56-68db-e8b5-0183-0e03bbac15ad@blomand.net>
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Shure manufactures ( or at least did when I repped them) in Mexico at 
their plant.
They also were maintaining capabilities of manufacturing in the states,,,
used to be Evanston.. now has plant in Wheeling, IL.
Those old 444 and 450 paging mics were always emphasizing the 2.5 - 3 
k region..


At 03:56 PM 10/10/2018, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>The SM58 is representative of a wide variety of the hand-held 
>"vocal" mics by many manufacturers.  It would not surprise me if 
>they didn't use a common element - probably manufactured off shore - 
>which means the read difference would be in mounting and the wind


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Wed Oct 10 18:30:52 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:30:52 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <cbcd5642-75e0-45b5-b03f-954bdbc19c9d@subich.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<2328cd31-ea77-5399-8492-969cd9a5e9b1@embarqmail.com>
	<cbcd5642-75e0-45b5-b03f-954bdbc19c9d@subich.com>
Message-ID: <e93d0da8-acf9-253a-eab0-e5502bd21481@audiosystemsgroup.com>

First, I don't think any Heil mic ought to be taken as a standard. I 
view Heil as most audio professionals view Bose -- "better sound through 
advertising."

Second, the SM58 is a single-D cardioid, and Shure's published data is 
for the mic at considerable distance from the sound source. When used 
close to a sound source, there is a LOT of bass boost as a result of 
proximity effect, so the "close-talked" response requires a lot more 
low-cut EQ.

Third, My standard recommended starting point for TXEQ for ALL mics is 
max cut of the three lowest bands, 6dB cut of the 4th (400 Hz) band.? 
Some mics, including the Shure 444 and some Heil mics have an 
intentional boost around 3 kHz to compensate for the rolloff of SSB 
transmitting filters, and I view this as a GOOD thing. For mics that 
lack this boost, or have have the boost at a much higher frequency (the 
SM58 has a boost around 8 kHz), I recommend a boost of 3-6 dB in the top 
two bands. All other bands should be set "flat" (no boost, no cut).

After making these settings, adjust COMP to see about an indicated 10 dB 
of gain reduction on voice peaks, then get signal reports from a good 
listener.? These settings are for maximum talk power, NOT for high 
futility, and if done right, will multiply your effective power by about 
20 (13 dB). That will make you easier to copy on the other end, which, 
for me, also makes casual QSOs and ragchews easier on the ears when 
you're not booming in on the other end.

73, Jim K9YC



On 10/10/2018 11:07 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
> needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
> "communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:
>
> ????????????????????????????????? -- SHURE --
> ?????????? HC4???? HC5??? D-104?? 444??? SM58
> ?? 50????? -16???? -16???? -16??? -16????? -8
> ? 100????? -16???? -16???? -10??? -16????? -2
> ? 200????? -16????? -3????? -4???? -7?????? 0
> ? 400?????? -4????? -2????? -3???? -2????? -1
> ? 800?????? -0????? -2????? -1????? 0????? -1
> ?1600?????? +5????? +2????? +3???? +3????? +0
> ?2400????? +10????? +5????? +9???? +7????? +1
> ?3200????? +10????? +6???? +13??? +12????? +4
>
> Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
> HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves.?? The SM58 data comes from
> Shure's data sheet.
>
> 73,
>
> ?? ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>
>> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the 
>> lower 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down 
>> a bit as well - that will increase your "talk power" while not 
>> wasting power trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not 
>> needed for intelligibility.? If you are into ESSB, you may differ, 
>> but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications 
>> effectiveness.
>>
>
> The typical
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From kstover at ac0h.net  Wed Oct 10 18:51:59 2018
From: kstover at ac0h.net (kstover at ac0h.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:51:59 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
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Nicely done.
Anybody suppose he'll find a more "reputable" mail list to troll on?

R. Kevin Stover    AC0H

ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
?If it doesn?t work the first time you push the button it won?t work the 20th?Just stop.?

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From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 11:21 PM
To: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?

Reputable companies don?t make mistakes? Oh yeah?that?s pretty funny right there. For serious dude. S**t happens. C?mon, you can?t seriously believe this. The biggest of companies have made mistakes in website addresses, software with bugs that didn?t get squashed in time, you name it. But let?s talk about Elecraft in specific for a minute, because, yeah, impugning Elecraft?s character is kind of personal. For me, anyway, and, I suspect, for others here. 

First, longevity. Do you really think that a company, especially one serving a close-knit community like hams, would really be able to survive that long, and more to the point, with such a loyal following as Elecraft has? Elecraft has been here for 20 years more or less, and far as I know, it?s not showing any signs of going anywhere.

Second, track record. Track record with Elecraft is one of those good news/bad news scenarios. Good news: they don?t release somethinguntil it?s ready and relatively bug-free. Nothing is completely bug-free, and certainly when you?re talking about software-defined things, features can be added or completed later. If hardware modifications need to be introduced, they are introduced at reasonable cost, free if possible, generally user installable, and without resorting to ?Oh hey, here y?all, buy another radio.? The downside to this is that sometimes, they are, as they say, over optimistic about release dates, so preorders may go unfulfilled for longer than the preorderers would like. Except, and here?s the good part, they don?t actually charge you until your preorder ships. Oh, I expect that they could, and most people wouldn?t complain too loudly, but they don?t. The worst thing that we have to deal with is?a wait. Such a first world problem. Rememberthe KX3? I do. I bought myself one as a sort of 25-year hamiversary present to myself. And I remember well the nail biting as its initial shipping dates slipped. But eureka, I got one, and I even got one before field day, and I even got one with a sub-500 serial number. And that was with an order that was, what, the day after Christmas, maybe 12 hours after the ordering window opened. Would a not reputable company achieve such loyalty that *that many* people stood in line for *that long*? 

OK, now let?s talk about service. One year warranties are pretty standard. But these guys will really go that extra mile for their customers. Everyone from the sales and customer service folks, to the tech support and repair folks, up to and including Wayne and Eric themselves. If something happens during any part of the resales to way after care, all of those guys bend over backwards to make it right. I?ve seen some cases where guys were offered a full and complete refund because they were that unhappy with some aspect of their Elecraft experience, and that very far outside the normal sort of parameters. Elecraft stands very firmly behind their offerings, and the ham community has taken notice. It?s no accident that new stuff is as eagerly anticipated as it is. 

Finally, and really I mean it, because if you?ve read this far you probably wish I?d shut up now please, there?s Wayne and Eric. They?re both on this list. They respond to emails personally. They offer help and guidance themselves. What other major ham radio company are you going to see that much hands-on involvement with the unwashed masses? Sure, it?s true that they?re both active hams, use the gear themselves, and likely as not, build things that they themselves love to own? Heck?Wayne said as much about the KX3 and the KX2. Look, these are top notch guys, straight up, passionate, and with a real heart for both the hobby and the community?not just the hardware. I?ve had several pleasant emails exchanges with Wayne, who was always patient, always gave me his full attention, and was never dismissive of my admittedly niche concerns. In short, when you question Elecraft?s integrity, you question *their* *personal* integrity, and I, at least, will stand up against that. For what it?s worth, which is, admittedly, very little. 

Anyone care to refute any of these points? Bring it.

Vy 73, de KB5ELV

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Paul pheaton108 at comcast.net [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Isn't that like you are on your dream vacation to Hawaii and they announce that your flight is ready but it is broken?
> 
> Reputable companies do not do this!
> 
> Paul W3PMH
> 
> 
> On 10/9/2018 7:13 PM, Don Wilhelm donwilh at embarqmail.com [KX3] wrote:
>>  
>> Mike,
>> 
>> If you did not sign up on the "interested" lists available at several 
>> hamfests, then you are out of luck. Wait for the announcements next week.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 10/9/2018 1:27 PM, Michael Harriman zlink33 at gmail.com [KX3] wrote:
>> > Where can I get the early order link?
>> > 
>> > Mike H.
>> > NT6H
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 08:25 Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com 
>> > <mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com> [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com 
>> > <mailto:KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > __
>> > 
>> > The wrong early-order link was sent out. Sorry about that. It will 
>> > be corrected and the email re-sent soon.
>> > 
>> > General product announcement will be later this week. The early 
>> > order email was for those who signed up previously.
>> > 
>> > 73,
>> > Wayne
>> > N6KR
>> > 
>> > --
>> > 
>> > Michael Harriman
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
> 
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Wed Oct 10 19:14:07 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:14:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <20181010204833.2DECE149B019@mailman.qth.net>
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On 10/10/2018 1:47 PM, bill steffey wrote:
> Shure manufactures ( or at least did when I repped them) in Mexico at 
> their plant. They also were maintaining capabilities of manufacturing 
> in the states,,,
> used to be Evanston.. now has plant in Wheeling, IL.

YES. This is generally true of REAL microphone companies, like 
ElectroVoice, Sennheiser, AKG, Neumann, and Beyer. Last I heard, EV's 
plant was in TN. Sennheiser, AKG, Neumann, and Beyer are German 
companies, and I suspect their mics are still manufactured there.

On 10/10/2018 12:56 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> It would not surprise me
> if they didn't use a common element - probably manufactured
> off shore - which means the read difference would be in mounting
> and the wind screen which would effect handling/wind noise and
> not particularly impact the response.

As a long time member of the AES Standards Committee Working Group on 
Microphones, I know engineers from most REAL mic mfrs, and I've heard 
horror stories of counterfeiting of their products, mostly from China. 
They often LOOK absolutely identical, but they are NOT the same and 
don't perform the same.

The same is true of connectors -- the common problems with the 
counterfeit parts are that they don't mate solidly, dielectrics may melt 
when you try to solder them, they may fall apart, they have dissimilar 
metals issues.

Companies like Heil and Behringer ARE buying cheap generic capsules and 
putting them in fancy housings. Big companies like Yamaha, Panasonic, 
and Sony probably DO mfr their own mic capsules and headphones.

73, Jim K9YC


From emoss98133 at msn.com  Wed Oct 10 21:37:45 2018
From: emoss98133 at msn.com (KD7PY)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:37:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <1539221865355-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

check MENU CONFIG TX GATE   in the tech menu  if set to high it will do that

Ed   KD7PY



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From Gary at ka1j.com  Wed Oct 10 21:42:37 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:42:37 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <0287efd7-2546-0333-3256-4e4a939b5e88@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>,
	<20181010204833.2DECE149B019@mailman.qth.net>,
	<0287efd7-2546-0333-3256-4e4a939b5e88@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <5BBEAA8D.14648.BD4F8FE@Gary.ka1j.com>

Folks,

Thank you for all the replies regarding 
the clipping and a thank you for the 
replies regarding proper setting for the 
Mic. That's just what I was looking for.

Unfortunately my transmit issues remain. 
I'm beginning to think there is perhaps 
something wrong with the radio. I was on 
40M today, checking out the results on my 
grounding efforts to see if that made a 
difference. Many came on to tell me I 
indeed still have a problem. One person 
said the audio effect gave them 
"goosebumps" so there's something definite 
going on.

One common thread was my signal seems to 
be cutting in & out. Although I don't hear 
it in the headphones, it must be rendered 
in a later stage. A few said it sounded 
like RFI. I'm stumped... However, when 
following Don's suggestions on adjusting 
the ALC level and then compression I 
noticed something unusual & I think, not 
right.

When I have the headset on, monitor on a 
high volume setting & I key the mic, I 
hear a very clear and loud low 
reproduction of the ambient noise in the 
room, almost like a low frequency hearing 
aid. The moment I adjust either the mic or 
compression, that character completely 
stops and the background sound in the 
headphones becomes silent. It is exactly 
to me, like hearing a rumbling background 
noise with Bose QC-15 headsets and then 
flipping the power on and hearing the 
background drop out to be replaced with 
ambient silence.

I've tried this multiple times and it is 
always the same, it's as if turning 
compression or MIC engages some noise 
cancelling from the K3s. My voice changes 
from somewhat bassy albeit clear, effect 
like talking close into a condenser mic, 
to the brighter, non bassy settings I have 
adjusted the TX EQ to be.

Does this sound familiar? If so, what 
might I look at?

Thanks again,

Gary
KA1J

From Gary at ka1j.com  Wed Oct 10 21:45:44 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:45:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <1539221865355-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>,
	<1539221865355-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5BBEAB48.7198.BD7D673@Gary.ka1j.com>

Thanks, it's set at 00.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> check MENU CONFIG TX GATE   in the tech menu  if set to high it will
> do that
> 
> Ed   KD7PY
> 
> 
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 10 22:56:50 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 19:56:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey
In-Reply-To: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
References: <a3e06d09-05c9-4b45-859b-a0040ca12ca1.maildroid@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E39D98D-7F2C-4768-8F8B-D62651387011@elecraft.com>

This thread was closed some time ago. Please, no more zombie threads :-)

Eric
Mooderator
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 3, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bert Craig <wa2si at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link.
> https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 10 23:00:15 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:00:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
In-Reply-To: <0CE4F7A9-F07F-45B7-B581-E611A022762B@law.du.edu>
References: <0CE4F7A9-F07F-45B7-B581-E611A022762B@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <FACFCBF7-9534-49D9-BD56-FCB5FFCABD4E@elecraft.com>

No changes in PS operation at all since the early KPA1500s shipped. 

If the fans in the. PS do not turn off within 10 secs or so after the RF deck front panel power button turns it off, please contact support at elecraft.com for help.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 4, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
>    Mine works exactly as Eric says it should.  I have not uploaded any new F/W, still using the original issue.  Anything change for the PS in a newer version?  Just a thought . . . .
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
>    ------------------------------
> 
>    Message: 13
>    Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 14:43:58 -0700
>    From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <eric at elecraft.com>
>    To: Rick Stealey <rstealey at hotmail.com>,    "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net"
>        <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power aupply fan
>    Message-ID: <7affdd68-d9cc-05ed-5ac2-dc22f3406218 at elecraft.com>
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>    Rick and everyone - There should be NO fans running in the power supply after 
>    turning off the RF deck from its front panel.
>    Are you sure the RF deck front panel is OFF? (No lights on the RF deck FP)
> 
>    The PS fan runs from the same supply that supplies the 50 V to the amp. That 
>    supply is definitely turned off when the RF deck front panel is off, which also 
>    kills the PS fans. The fans have absolutely nothing to do with the 12 VDC supply 
>    going to the RF deck.
> 
>    In any case, no not modify how voltage is supplied to the RF deck, as this will 
>    not fix anything and will definitely void the Warranty.
> 
>    If you are not able to resolve this issue contact our team at 
>    support at elecraft.com or via the phone and we'll help you figure out what is 
>    happening.
> 
>    My only thought is that there could be a short in the control cable between the 
>    amp RF deck and PS that is keeping the 50V supply and fans on in the PS. (Or on 
>    one of the connectors in the RF deck or PS.) Our support team will help you 
>    debug whatever is happening if its a hw issue..
> 
>    73,
>    Eric
>    /elecraft.com/
> 
> 
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 10 23:06:24 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:06:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: AX1 Order Page Up but Broken?
In-Reply-To: <002701d460eb$dc0911f0$941b35d0$@ac0h.net>
References: <1539077800516-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
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	<16456986-1409-b5fa-de73-31c0d2b79a2d@embarqmail.com>
	<35151EF8-D08C-431F-890F-D67A2186FFB2@elecraft.com>
	<CAKKLaHc19BGZF5Rr7-fdtUMV3cfjyqK88oJ-OZJFBfL3wetUMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5fb71de7-05e7-6adf-8e9d-dd470c5112c1@embarqmail.com>
	<4c18f628-0e3d-9431-53de-013a223c284c@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <40840ACB-9F3D-4196-AF9D-72F5F41CD05D@elecraft.com>

As per list guidelines, no personal attacks please. 

Eric
Moderator for way too long.. :-)
elecraft.com
_..._

> On Oct 10, 2018, at 3:51 PM, <kstover at ac0h.net> <kstover at ac0h.net> wrote:
> 
> Nicely done.
> Anybody suppose he'll find a more "reputable" mail list to troll on?
> 
> R. Kevin Stover    AC0H

From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Oct 10 23:50:02 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 23:50:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <5BBEAB48.7198.BD7D673@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<1539221865355-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<5BBEAB48.7198.BD7D673@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <25CC784A-4C1E-4DE2-B9C3-1463425384B4@widomaker.com>

If you are using the MH4 Elecraft mic plugged into the front panel. Set mic to ?FpL -bias?. Set EQ to flat. Set Cmp to zero and adjust micgain for 4-5 bars ALC.  Now adjust Cmp to provide about 10dB and get on the air and get assistance from someone who knows your voice. 

If you?re having intermittent issues check ALL connections. If you have Monitor on keep it low or it will get into the mic and give you grief. 

Better, use another radio receiver to listen to yourself transmitting into a dummy load. Even on of the many SDR Dongle type will work great. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 10, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Gary Smith <Gary at ka1j.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, it's set at 00.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> 
>> check MENU CONFIG TX GATE   in the tech menu  if set to high it will
>> do that
>> 
>> Ed   KD7PY
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From Gary at ka1j.com  Thu Oct 11 00:24:52 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:24:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Voice is clipped K3s
In-Reply-To: <25CC784A-4C1E-4DE2-B9C3-1463425384B4@widomaker.com>
References: <5BBD97E9.24044.7A4355E@Gary.ka1j.com>,
	<5BBEAB48.7198.BD7D673@Gary.ka1j.com>,
	<25CC784A-4C1E-4DE2-B9C3-1463425384B4@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <5BBED094.4686.C698213@Gary.ka1j.com>

Your suggestion of my listening to me 
transmitting into a dummy on another radio 
was a good idea. However, I pulled my 
backup K3 out of its box & replaced the 
K3s with it. It's Serial #202 but it is 
updated to the final K3 specs and has most 
of the K3s upgrades so I just switched one 
for the other. I matched the config from 
the K3s to the K3 so they are set up the 
same.

Zero issues with the K3, all reports say 
the audio is excellent with no hint of 
RFI. Seems like I have a problem with the 
K3s. Unfortunate in that it was just 
returned from repair this last August but 
things happen. 

Thank you all for the replies, great ideas 
and I set the TX EQ to the settings Joe, 
W4TV, provided for this mic. The audio 
reports have been excellent so that helped 
greatly.

I'll get a RMA and send it out tomorrow.

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J


> If you are using the MH4 Elecraft mic plugged into the front panel.
> Set mic to "FpL -bias". Set EQ to flat. Set Cmp to zero and adjust
> micgain for 4-5 bars ALC.  Now adjust Cmp to provide about 10dB and
> get on the air and get assistance from someone who knows your voice. 
> 
> If you?re having intermittent issues check ALL connections. If you
> have Monitor on keep it low or it will get into the mic and give you
> grief. 
> 
> Better, use another radio receiver to listen to yourself transmitting
> into a dummy load. Even on of the many SDR Dongle type will work
> great. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
> > On Oct 10, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Gary Smith <Gary at ka1j.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks, it's set at 00.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> > 
> >> check MENU CONFIG TX GATE   in the tech menu  if set to high it
> >> will do that
> >> 
> >> Ed   KD7PY
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
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From nick at n6ol.us  Thu Oct 11 01:29:06 2018
From: nick at n6ol.us (Nicklas Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:29:06 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S USB soundcard mic always monitoring TX audio
Message-ID: <CA+ZptLkvZ37ByqXeNgLRuRTGwu0grWiQ9PWtXHG0Wh5EPrWC=w@mail.gmail.com>

While spending some quality time with the K3s tonight, I noticed that if I
switch on the "listen to" feature in Windows to listen to the USB codec
microphone audio through my computer speakers, I always hear the audio when
transmitting; ie, it behaves as though the audio being sent out the USB
Codec speakers is being monitored by the USB Codec microphone.

This was the case with the power reduced to 0, or with the unit in TX Test
mode, so I don't think it's RF bleeding through.

I also checked the MON setting and made sure it was on 0.  It had been on a
low setting when I was listening to transmit audio on the speaker plugged
into the K3S earlier.

What else should I check, or is this behavior expected?

   Nick

-- 
*N6OL*
Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make it
real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
worth supporting.

From nick at n6ol.us  Thu Oct 11 01:42:36 2018
From: nick at n6ol.us (Nicklas Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:42:36 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Winlink Express + K3S
Message-ID: <CA+ZptLmMpV9dKrVKNppv1OXmPKdf74YuV0_qw=dA5Z8=c1bUsw@mail.gmail.com>

Somewhat related to my other post, but sufficiently different that I
figured it should be its own thread: I consistently get the "Timeout in T>R
Latency Measurement" message from Winlink Express using the built-in
software Winmor TNC.

After some poking around and trying different things, I set up the K3S to
do PTT on RTS, made sure the TX delay was as short as possible, configured
Winlink to use RTS for PTT, and as far as I can tell, the switching is very
fast... but Winlink is still not happy about it.  I tried VOX as well, but
it seemed like latency should be less with RTS for PTT.

I used to get the Timeout error on my KX3 on the first transmit, but
subsequent transmissions always worked fine.

Has anyone had more success with Winlink with the K3s and with avoiding
this Timeout message?

   Nick

-- 
*N6OL*
Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make it
real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
worth supporting.

From k6sdw.usa at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 08:20:52 2018
From: k6sdw.usa at gmail.com (Eddy Avila)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:20:52 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 low out on 30 and 15 meters
Message-ID: <CAFjeueogBh4asoPUP2ONYMQXayUYJF9rQCTu8N5Z-rtS569Bog@mail.gmail.com>

I bought used the KXPA100 with ATU.  The KXPA100 puts out less than full
power on 30 and 15 meters. The other bands the KXP!00 puts out 100 watts
and a bit more.

Both thte KX3 and the KXPA100 have the latest firmware installed.

This according to the LED's on the amp and connected to an MFJ dummyload. I
don't own an external wattmeter. I've run through calibration several times
and the overall results remain the same.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks and 73

ed ~ k6sdw

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Thu Oct 11 09:29:42 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:29:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 low out on 30 and 15 meters
In-Reply-To: <CAFjeueogBh4asoPUP2ONYMQXayUYJF9rQCTu8N5Z-rtS569Bog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFjeueogBh4asoPUP2ONYMQXayUYJF9rQCTu8N5Z-rtS569Bog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b7c6fdf-9530-6b6b-2da9-059bb85391d9@embarqmail.com>

Eddy,

How much less than 100 watts.  You can figure there may be an up to 20% 
error in the KXPA100 wattmeter reading - which will vary from band to 
band.  Are you seeing at least 80 watts?  If so, it may be that all is well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/11/2018 8:20 AM, Eddy Avila wrote:
> I bought used the KXPA100 with ATU.  The KXPA100 puts out less than full
> power on 30 and 15 meters. The other bands the KXP!00 puts out 100 watts
> and a bit more.
> 
> Both thte KX3 and the KXPA100 have the latest firmware installed.
> 
> This according to the LED's on the amp and connected to an MFJ dummyload. I
> don't own an external wattmeter. I've run through calibration several times
> and the overall results remain the same.
> 

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Oct 11 10:37:32 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:37:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Hurricane comms?
Message-ID: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>

Hi all,

I heard an NPR interview with the city manager of a small town in the Florida panhandle this morning. He said that many nearby towns have zero communications right now, and he was ?hoping to be heard? via radio. They?re pretty desperate. Cell towers and landlines are down. They can?t even communicate within emergency agencies. 

Feel free to post info here on any HF or VHF nets that have been activated. Amateur radio could be the service of last resort for a few days. 

Wayne
N6KR

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From nick at n6ol.us  Thu Oct 11 12:17:30 2018
From: nick at n6ol.us (Nicklas Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:17:30 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Winlink Express + K3S
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZptLmMpV9dKrVKNppv1OXmPKdf74YuV0_qw=dA5Z8=c1bUsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZptLmMpV9dKrVKNppv1OXmPKdf74YuV0_qw=dA5Z8=c1bUsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ZptLnOD8V0Soh=RCNaanvguiMF3cEcNGtaf=TWWQwn9Be6nw@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW, I did some more poking around.  Increasing the RF gain to present
Winlink with a louder signal helps to alleviate this problem.  Looking at
the meter in Winlink, when it switches from TX to RX, there's some ramp
time before it reflects the full amplitude of the incoming signal.

Curious about that, I recorded some audio using Audacity to see what the
recovery after the actual RX switch looks like: https://imgur.com/IPTabvm

There's about 10ms of ramp up, followed by about 10ms of signal, then a
40ms audio dropout, then the signal resumes and stays steady.  This same
pattern appeared for every TX/RX exchange, including the same 40ms dropout
in the same place.  Not a big deal with many modes, but it could be a
bigger problem with Winlink or other modes which rely on quick TX/RX
switching; the total latency between the end of the transmit and the end of
the dropout is 170ms; add to that sound driver latency and buffering
latency, and the total latency could be well over 200ms... 140ms would
certainly be more desirable if it could be achieved.  (See
https://imgur.com/a/C2McMby for the full switch cycle.)

I also tested this with an external sound card to determine whether these
artifacts are coming from the receiver or the internal sound card.  The
same artifacts are present from the external sound card connected to the
rig's line out as when using the internal sound card, which I suspect
indicates they're coming from the receiver, not the sound card.

This is happening in DATA-A mode with NR, NB and NTCH off and with AGC
off.  Using Windows 10 with all "enhancements" disabled on both cards.

What else should I check or try?  Can anyone else verify this same pattern?

   Nick


On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 22:42, Nicklas Johnson <nick at n6ol.us> wrote:

> Somewhat related to my other post, but sufficiently different that I
> figured it should be its own thread: I consistently get the "Timeout in T>R
> Latency Measurement" message from Winlink Express using the built-in
> software Winmor TNC.
>
> After some poking around and trying different things, I set up the K3S to
> do PTT on RTS, made sure the TX delay was as short as possible, configured
> Winlink to use RTS for PTT, and as far as I can tell, the switching is very
> fast... but Winlink is still not happy about it.  I tried VOX as well, but
> it seemed like latency should be less with RTS for PTT.
>
> I used to get the Timeout error on my KX3 on the first transmit, but
> subsequent transmissions always worked fine.
>
> Has anyone had more success with Winlink with the K3s and with avoiding
> this Timeout message?
>
>    Nick
>
> --
> *N6OL*
> Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make
> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
> worth supporting.
>


-- 
*N6OL*
Saying something doesn't make it true.  Belief in something doesn't make it
real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
worth supporting.

From JohnE at xylonaut.com  Thu Oct 11 13:49:25 2018
From: JohnE at xylonaut.com (John Ellsworth)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:49:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Hurricane comms?
In-Reply-To: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
References: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <281bcc2a-7240-01a2-b7a8-721cd714eed2@xylonaut.com>

AmRRON activated 10/09 1400Z - see amrron.com for activation information.

John/kn0cw



On 10/11/18 9:37 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I heard an NPR interview with the city manager of a small town in the Florida panhandle this morning. He said that many nearby towns have zero communications right now, and he was ?hoping to be heard? via radio. They?re pretty desperate. Cell towers and landlines are down. They can?t even communicate within emergency agencies. 
> 
> Feel free to post info here on any HF or VHF nets that have been activated. Amateur radio could be the service of last resort for a few days. 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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From carterwc128 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 14:37:09 2018
From: carterwc128 at gmail.com (Carter Craigie)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:37:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] No Connectivity to my COM Port
Message-ID: <CAOWp2qZJSAqfn8x66u2ENJ9sGGPrEALu9QQBJwM3qDDipQwMJA@mail.gmail.com>

For some reason I can no longer connect my KX3 to my computer. I have tried
rebooting. changing the connection cable from my computer to the back of my
KXPA100 amp, and so forth.

Usually I have been using COM3, but I get a message that that com port is
in use by another device. Hmmm... It was working yesterday...

Any help from anybody, please? I'm stumped.

My phone number is (540) 250-8184.
My email address is carterwc128 at gmail.com

I hope someone will help me.

73,
Carter

From huntinhmb at coastside.net  Thu Oct 11 14:45:56 2018
From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (Brian Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:45:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Hurricane comms?
In-Reply-To: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
References: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <cce5b17c-9d7b-eb09-b8b1-68454fd08721@coastside.net>

The Hurricane Watch Net was active most of yesterday on 14325 and 7268.? 
They were soliciting and passing weather observations from the area.? 
Very well organized and directed nets.? I'm not hearing them this 
morning on 20m but it may be propagation conditions.? See here for more: 
http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-headquarters-on-alert-for-hurricane-michael

73,
Brian, K0DTJ



From dick at elecraft.com  Thu Oct 11 14:48:02 2018
From: dick at elecraft.com (dick at elecraft.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:48:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] No Connectivity to my COM Port
In-Reply-To: <CAOWp2qZJSAqfn8x66u2ENJ9sGGPrEALu9QQBJwM3qDDipQwMJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOWp2qZJSAqfn8x66u2ENJ9sGGPrEALu9QQBJwM3qDDipQwMJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003701d46192$f09c6d90$d1d548b0$@elecraft.com>

Carter:  

COM3 is sometimes used by internal modems, and there may be a conflict
there.  Has Windows been updated recently?  Sometimes COM port assignments
change without warning.

Remove the USB connector from the computer. Then use Windows's Device
Manager (a control panel applet),  and open the list under Ports (COM & LPT)
and see what the current devices are.  Then plug in your KXUSB to the
computer.  A new COM port should appear, that's your KX3's COM port.  

Also, it's possible to use the KX3 Utility's Port tab and try each of the
ports available under the port selection drop-down box.  

There's a KX3 Utility Help page under Troubleshooting titled "Finding the
Right COM port".

Hope this helps to get you going...  

73 de Dick, K6KR

 

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Behalf Of Carter Craigie
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:37
To: Elecraft List Members <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] No Connectivity to my COM Port

For some reason I can no longer connect my KX3 to my computer. I have tried
rebooting. changing the connection cable from my computer to the back of my
KXPA100 amp, and so forth.

Usually I have been using COM3, but I get a message that that com port is in
use by another device. Hmmm... It was working yesterday...

Any help from anybody, please? I'm stumped.

My phone number is (540) 250-8184.
My email address is carterwc128 at gmail.com

I hope someone will help me.

73,
Carter
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From huntinhmb at coastside.net  Thu Oct 11 15:07:44 2018
From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (Brian Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:07:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Winlink Express + K3S
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZptLmMpV9dKrVKNppv1OXmPKdf74YuV0_qw=dA5Z8=c1bUsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZptLmMpV9dKrVKNppv1OXmPKdf74YuV0_qw=dA5Z8=c1bUsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b785bb8-3007-267c-4c9c-086096a240cf@coastside.net>

When calling to connect with winmor you will always get the timeout 
message until the called station responds.? Once it connects the error 
message should go away.? It drove me nuts for a while. :-) FWIW, I use 
the CAT command option for PTT so I don't have to remember to set the 
PTT-KEY menu.? Seems to work fine.? Note:? K3 and external USB sound 
card used here with Win10 desktop PC.? HTH

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

On 10/10/2018 22:42, Nicklas Johnson wrote:
> Somewhat related to my other post, but sufficiently different that I
> figured it should be its own thread: I consistently get the "Timeout in T>R
> Latency Measurement" message from Winlink Express using the built-in
> software Winmor TNC.
>
> After some poking around and trying different things, I set up the K3S to
> do PTT on RTS, made sure the TX delay was as short as possible, configured
> Winlink to use RTS for PTT, and as far as I can tell, the switching is very
> fast... but Winlink is still not happy about it.  I tried VOX as well, but
> it seemed like latency should be less with RTS for PTT.
>
> I used to get the Timeout error on my KX3 on the first transmit, but
> subsequent transmissions always worked fine.
>
> Has anyone had more success with Winlink with the K3s and with avoiding
> this Timeout message?
>
>     Nick
>


From ptaenzer at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 17:50:54 2018
From: ptaenzer at gmail.com (Paul Taenzer)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:50:54 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] VOX tripping each receive cycle on FT8
Message-ID: <CAN1kTW7hEMOCCVUT214ZfCGBVqateh8ifSXsW+rq_FJjX0kmfw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having a peculiar problem that I wonder if others have had and resolved.

I'm using a K3 and SignaLink USB interface and WSJT software running FT8
with the current version of WSJT-X.

The issue is that the VOX triggers momentarily at the beginning of each
receive cycle.

I'd be grateful for any ideas of what is causing this.

I've been running FT8 for over a year without this issue occurring.

TNX

Paul VA3LX

From wunder at wunderwood.org  Thu Oct 11 18:05:02 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:05:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Hurricane comms?
In-Reply-To: <cce5b17c-9d7b-eb09-b8b1-68454fd08721@coastside.net>
References: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
	<cce5b17c-9d7b-eb09-b8b1-68454fd08721@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <99DA8E24-3350-4218-9711-2E88C5E42375@wunderwood.org>


From wunder at wunderwood.org  Thu Oct 11 18:26:20 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:26:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Hurricane comms?
In-Reply-To: <cce5b17c-9d7b-eb09-b8b1-68454fd08721@coastside.net>
References: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
	<cce5b17c-9d7b-eb09-b8b1-68454fd08721@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <8FB334A8-4A75-454C-BEA8-4CD9F96FA6AB@wunderwood.org>

Just got this update in my ARRL Letter. Key points:

	? The Hurricane Watch Net (HWN) resumed operations Wednesday morning and will remain active until further notice on 14.325.00 MHz and 7.268.00 MHz. 
	? WX4NHC, the Amateur Radio at the National Hurricane Center, is active to receive observed weather information and data via Amateur Radio to aid forecasters. 
	? The VoIP Hurricane Net activated this morning to support communication with the National Hurricane Center.
	? The Southern Territory Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) will remain active until 9 PM ET on Wednesday and will reactivate on Thursday, if necessary. The net will handle emergency, priority, and health-and-welfare traffic from impacted areas, provide ground-truth information from Amateur Radio stations and other sources in the impacted areas for forwarding to Salvation Army leadership. SATERN has been requested to provide Amateur Radio operators for Pensacola, Panama City, Tallahassee, and Tampa, as well as two to three local units in Georgia, and Divisional Headquarters in Atlanta. 
	? The ARRL North Florida and West Central Florida sections are assisting SATERN with additional operators in Pensacola, Panama City, Tallahassee, and Tampa. North Florida Section ARES is at Level 1 (full) activation. 

http://www.arrl.org/news/amateur-radio-assets-active-as-category-4-hurricane-michael-makes-landfall <http://www.arrl.org/news/amateur-radio-assets-active-as-category-4-hurricane-michael-makes-landfall>

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Brian Hunt <huntinhmb at coastside.net <mailto:huntinhmb at coastside.net>> wrote:
> 
> The Hurricane Watch Net was active most of yesterday on 14325 and 7268.  They were soliciting and passing weather observations from the area.  Very well organized and directed nets.  I'm not hearing them this morning on 20m but it may be propagation conditions.  See here for more: http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-headquarters-on-alert-for-hurricane-michael <http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-headquarters-on-alert-for-hurricane-michael>
> 
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
> 
> 
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From dennis at mail4life.net  Thu Oct 11 18:41:44 2018
From: dennis at mail4life.net (Dennis Moore)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:41:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] VOX tripping each receive cycle on FT8
In-Reply-To: <CAN1kTW7hEMOCCVUT214ZfCGBVqateh8ifSXsW+rq_FJjX0kmfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1kTW7hEMOCCVUT214ZfCGBVqateh8ifSXsW+rq_FJjX0kmfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f191829e-4911-7823-9711-c6dff604a030@mail4life.net>

Is MAIN: MIC SEL set to LINE IN, and MAIN: MIC+LIN set to OFF?

Dennis NJ6G


On 10/11/2018 14:50, Paul Taenzer wrote:
> I'm having a peculiar problem that I wonder if others have had and resolved.
>
> I'm using a K3 and SignaLink USB interface and WSJT software running FT8
> with the current version of WSJT-X.
>
> The issue is that the VOX triggers momentarily at the beginning of each
> receive cycle.
>
> I'd be grateful for any ideas of what is causing this.
>
> I've been running FT8 for over a year without this issue occurring.
>
> TNX
>
> Paul VA3LX


From k6dgw at foothill.net  Thu Oct 11 19:34:22 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 16:34:22 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] No Connectivity to my COM Port
In-Reply-To: <003701d46192$f09c6d90$d1d548b0$@elecraft.com>
References: <CAOWp2qZJSAqfn8x66u2ENJ9sGGPrEALu9QQBJwM3qDDipQwMJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<003701d46192$f09c6d90$d1d548b0$@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <f93506f9-8c8f-217c-f9bb-439e070ccb1c@foothill.net>

In addition to Dick's advice, while viewing the ports, make sure "Show 
hidden devices" is enabled.? Windows 10, I guess driven by Microsoft's 
infinite wisdom, will sometimes change a USB port assignment, but not 
totally remove the former assignment.? It then shows up as in use when 
the ports are enumerated.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/11/2018 11:48 AM, dick at elecraft.com wrote:
> Carter:
>
> COM3 is sometimes used by internal modems, and there may be a conflict
> there.  Has Windows been updated recently?  Sometimes COM port assignments
> change without warning.
>
> Remove the USB connector from the computer. Then use Windows's Device
> Manager (a control panel applet),  and open the list under Ports (COM & LPT)
> and see what the current devices are.  Then plug in your KXUSB to the
> computer.  A new COM port should appear, that's your KX3's COM port.
>
> Also, it's possible to use the KX3 Utility's Port tab and try each of the
> ports available under the port selection drop-down box.
>
> There's a KX3 Utility Help page under Troubleshooting titled "Finding the
> Right COM port".
>
> Hope this helps to get you going...
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Thu Oct 11 19:49:09 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:49:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] VOX tripping each receive cycle on FT8
In-Reply-To: <CAN1kTW7hEMOCCVUT214ZfCGBVqateh8ifSXsW+rq_FJjX0kmfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1kTW7hEMOCCVUT214ZfCGBVqateh8ifSXsW+rq_FJjX0kmfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c94f3b62-8ffb-8f66-d7a6-81eafdeb866f@blomand.net>

First, I'd have to ask why are you using VOX??? I find that CAT control 
is 100% reliable and is equally as fast or faster than VOX. ? Just be 
sure the DLY control on the Signalink is set fully counterclockwise. ?? 
Likely your VOX level is too high and AntiVOX level is too low.??? I'd 
opt for CAT control and not VOX.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/11/2018 4:50 PM, Paul Taenzer wrote:
> I'm having a peculiar problem that I wonder if others have had and resolved.
>
> I'm using a K3 and SignaLink USB interface and WSJT software running FT8
> with the current version of WSJT-X.
>
> The issue is that the VOX triggers momentarily at the beginning of each
> receive cycle.
>
> I'd be grateful for any ideas of what is causing this.
>
> I've been running FT8 for over a year without this issue occurring.
>
> TNX
>
> Paul VA3LX
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From nick at n6ol.us  Thu Oct 11 21:49:46 2018
From: nick at n6ol.us (Nicklas Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:49:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Winlink Express + K3S [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <2b785bb8-3007-267c-4c9c-086096a240cf@coastside.net>
References: <CA+ZptLmMpV9dKrVKNppv1OXmPKdf74YuV0_qw=dA5Z8=c1bUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b785bb8-3007-267c-4c9c-086096a240cf@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <CA+ZptLnrk=9vHHRkQbqEC-VqoUFxeMnVzRTHb_9k5APtx1NfOA@mail.gmail.com>

Got a great tip from Elecraft support on this one, which I'll relate here
for the next person who is searching for K3/K3S "T>R Latency measurement
timeout" on Google or the list when operating with Winlink.

The answer is to assign CONFIG:SYNC DT to a PF button (I used PF1) and then
enable it when in DATA mode.  This cuts the TX/RX latency *substantially*
and entirely eliminates the 60ms of artifacts I was seeing during switching
(the slow ramp and the 40ms drop-out).  Presumably those artifacts were the
result of switching filters.

T>R latency on my laptop now varies anywhere from 60-130ms, and I'm sure
some of that is just variance in processing in Winlink itself.  The
important thing is that the measure no longer times out, and the latency is
in the ballpark where it needs to be for the mode to work well.

The moral of the story is that if you're using a DATA mode that relies on
quick switching from transmit to receive, assign Sync DT to a button and
engage it when working with that mode.

Kudos to Gary at Elecraft!

   Nick

On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:08, Brian Hunt <huntinhmb at coastside.net> wrote:

> When calling to connect with winmor you will always get the timeout
> message until the called station responds.  Once it connects the error
> message should go away.  It drove me nuts for a while. :-) FWIW, I use
> the CAT command option for PTT so I don't have to remember to set the
> PTT-KEY menu.  Seems to work fine.  Note:  K3 and external USB sound
> card used here with Win10 desktop PC.  HTH
>
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
>
> On 10/10/2018 22:42, Nicklas Johnson wrote:
> > Somewhat related to my other post, but sufficiently different that I
> > figured it should be its own thread: I consistently get the "Timeout in
> T>R
> > Latency Measurement" message from Winlink Express using the built-in
> > software Winmor TNC.
> >
> > After some poking around and trying different things, I set up the K3S to
> > do PTT on RTS, made sure the TX delay was as short as possible,
> configured
> > Winlink to use RTS for PTT, and as far as I can tell, the switching is
> very
> > fast... but Winlink is still not happy about it.  I tried VOX as well,
> but
> > it seemed like latency should be less with RTS for PTT.
> >
> > I used to get the Timeout error on my KX3 on the first transmit, but
> > subsequent transmissions always worked fine.
> >
> > Has anyone had more success with Winlink with the K3s and with avoiding
> > this Timeout message?
> >
> >     Nick
> >
>
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worth supporting.

From nick at n6ol.us  Thu Oct 11 22:34:40 2018
From: nick at n6ol.us (Nicklas Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:34:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S USB soundcard mic always monitoring TX audio
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZptLkvZ37ByqXeNgLRuRTGwu0grWiQ9PWtXHG0Wh5EPrWC=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZptLkvZ37ByqXeNgLRuRTGwu0grWiQ9PWtXHG0Wh5EPrWC=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ZptLnDJgLCwcPNSeEWY93YD9aevW_jLAw28w19=tGf+ZnqDg@mail.gmail.com>

Found the answer after doing a little more digging.  This is a function of
the CONFIG:LIN OUT:2 (or REV) setting, which was defaulted to 30 on my
K3S.  Setting this to 0 eliminated the Line Out monitoring of Line In.
This is discussed in the KE7X K3S book at the bottom of page 210.

The explanation in the book is that some contests require submission of the
audio of the complete exchange, so having this setting something other than
0 loops the audio back through Line IN so your computer's digital recording
software will capture it when you record from Line In.

   Nick


On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 22:29, Nicklas Johnson <nick at n6ol.us> wrote:

> While spending some quality time with the K3s tonight, I noticed that if I
> switch on the "listen to" feature in Windows to listen to the USB codec
> microphone audio through my computer speakers, I always hear the audio when
> transmitting; ie, it behaves as though the audio being sent out the USB
> Codec speakers is being monitored by the USB Codec microphone.
>
> This was the case with the power reduced to 0, or with the unit in TX Test
> mode, so I don't think it's RF bleeding through.
>
> I also checked the MON setting and made sure it was on 0.  It had been on
> a low setting when I was listening to transmit audio on the speaker plugged
> into the K3S earlier.
>
> What else should I check, or is this behavior expected?
>
>    Nick
>
> --
> *N6OL*
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> it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not
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From rwnewbould at comcast.net  Thu Oct 11 23:31:22 2018
From: rwnewbould at comcast.net (Rich)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 23:31:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B USB Question
Message-ID: <b1d5114d-dc8a-aafe-40a9-912ec72aecbe@comcast.net>

If I am reading correctly in Fred's book.?? I can connect the *CBLP3Y 
cable to a USB to RS232 adapter to my computer which would create a 
second comport from the radio to my computer.?? For example (if I am 
reading correctly)*

*The USB port could be used to for audio codec and rig control (which I 
am already doing successfully)*

*The RJ45 comport output could be sent to a computer to send freq/rig 
data to an SDR receiver for example.*

*Is my thinking/reading correct?*

*This seems very straight forward, but I was hoping to get some thoughts 
from others before I try it.*

*Thanks*

*Rich*

*K3RWN
*


From hk3j.dx at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 02:38:52 2018
From: hk3j.dx at gmail.com (German Duran)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] AMERITRON ARB-704 Universal Amplifier Interface
	connected to K3s
Message-ID: <CAEJf59iw02M+oF3x1OLtDQ-1J=paqSs7toT5=HDpbmjrDxF8rQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi friends, is anyone with experience working the Elecraft K3s with a
linear amplifier Kenwood TL-922 or with a linear amplifier Drake L4B?
Has anyone used the AMERITRON ARB-704 Universal Amplifier Interface to
connect the K3s to any of these linear amplifiers?
I appreciate any information about it. Sincerely:
German

From indians at xsmail.com  Fri Oct 12 06:21:01 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:21:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 1.5V recharchable AA cells for KX3?
In-Reply-To: <CAKn+a3txc=LeS+WmOAqucANkY-nsKz8zi20A9a-tnxbnjTScjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1539168405676-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1539190271692-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<CAKn+a3txc=LeS+WmOAqucANkY-nsKz8zi20A9a-tnxbnjTScjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1539339661403-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi all,

did anybody tested this pack?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LiFePO4-battery-12V-5AH-Amp-Hour-Built-In-BMS-Solar-Ham-Radio-portable-qrp-KX3/173447376885?hash=item286244eff5:m:m3FqI3Fy0n03e0psJI2JjBA:rk:14:pf:0





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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 12 11:12:28 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:12:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B USB Question
In-Reply-To: <b1d5114d-dc8a-aafe-40a9-912ec72aecbe@comcast.net>
References: <b1d5114d-dc8a-aafe-40a9-912ec72aecbe@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <358a6fd6-b44c-72fd-b040-eb79cd3a4ef0@embarqmail.com>

Rich,

Not quite.  You do NOT want to connect the CBLP3Y cable to a USB to 
serial port adapter.  You will not only have communications failures, 
but you may damage the K3 USB port output and the USB to serial adapter 
because you will have two drivers on the same RS-232 signal lines.

I assume you have a P3 since you have the CBLP3Y cable.

You can connect a simple RD-232 Y cable to the PC port on the P3 with 
the CBLP3Y cable plugged into one side of the Y and the serial cable to 
your SDR receiver on the other side.

Your SDR receiver must turn its driver off - it can listen to the RS-232 
traffic, but it cannot transmit requests or commands.

You may have to set up virtual ports with LP-Bridge or Com0Com.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/11/2018 11:31 PM, Rich wrote:
> If I am reading correctly in Fred's book.?? I can connect the *CBLP3Y 
> cable to a USB to RS232 adapter to my computer which would create a 
> second comport from the radio to my computer.?? For example (if I am 
> reading correctly)*
> 
> *The USB port could be used to for audio codec and rig control (which I 
> am already doing successfully)*
> 
> *The RJ45 comport output could be sent to a computer to send freq/rig 
> data to an SDR receiver for example.*
> 
> *Is my thinking/reading correct?*
> 
> *This seems very straight forward, but I was hoping to get some thoughts 
> from others before I try it.*
> 
> *Thanks*
> 
> *Rich*
> 
> *K3RWN
> *
> 
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From lee.buller at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 12:47:30 2018
From: lee.buller at gmail.com (Leroy Buller)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:47:30 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
Message-ID: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
There has got to be a better way.

Lee K0WA

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Fri Oct 12 12:54:38 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:54:38 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98cdfa86-5a2c-bcd5-ef33-1b8f3b7213d2@blomand.net>

I bond each piece of equipment to a common ground terminal on my power 
supply.? I do not have any ground from the station to the outside.? Only 
the 3rd pin safety ground is in place.?? The station is fed from a 
common 240V 4 wire service for the amp and other related equipment.? 
 From the 240V 4 wire service, I break off with 2 duplex outlets on each 
line side.? Thus the neutral and safety ground are common for the station.

All efforts toward lightning protection are implemented outside of the 
house.? This includes a driven ground system at the base of the tower 
next to the house and it is bonded outside of the house to the AC Mains 
ground.? The lightning rod system on the roof is also bonded to the AC 
Mains ground.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/12/2018 11:47 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
> Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
> your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
> grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
> the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
> quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
> trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
> geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
> good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
> wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
> suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
> There has got to be a better way.
>
> Lee K0WA
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From radiok4ia at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 12:58:25 2018
From: radiok4ia at gmail.com (Craig Buck)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:58:25 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAq9XACPzYgAhiagnfAmYn2VWz6hUdfrD3R1G5brFj3a+5+2dA@mail.gmail.com>

I added two large washers over the post.  Makes it easier to sandwich the
ground braid between them.  Poke a hole in the braid to go over the post.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 12:49 PM Leroy Buller <lee.buller at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
> your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
> grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
> the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
> quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
> trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
> geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
> good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
> wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
> suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
> There has got to be a better way.
>
> Lee K0WA
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From jim at n7us.net  Fri Oct 12 13:02:32 2018
From: jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:02:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.59.1539363757.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

I use braided copper strap, and my operating desk is about 2' away from the wall, so I can walk behind it.


Jim N7US
Sent from Samsung tablet
-------- Original message --------From: Leroy Buller <lee.buller at gmail.com> Date: 10/12/18  11:47 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding 
Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
your K3 or your rig?? I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.? Why?? Getting my fat ham fingers to
the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
quite infuriating.? All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
trips my trigger.? Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.? Many years ago it was
good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.? Stiff
wire adds to my frustration.?? So, for my mental health I would like some
suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.? I know...suck it up.
There has got to be a better way.

Lee K0WA
______________________________________________________________


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Fri Oct 12 13:31:10 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:31:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <230cd964-8d9a-6303-f5a8-c6daa2b59bb0@triconet.org>

I use a 14 AWG insulated stranded wire with a spade lug on it for the K3 side.? 
The other end is bolted to a clamp on the EMT that carries the AC service into 
the shack. As far as I'm concerned this is just a safety ground, not something 
worthy of an RF ground.? All of the other gear is similarly grounded to the same 
clamp.? Worrywarts will wring their hands over ground loops, RF in the shack, 
install hundreds of dollars worth of ferrite, etc.? None of that here.? Forget 
about using braid.

Wes? N7WS

.


On 10/12/2018 9:47 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
> Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
> your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
> grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
> the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
> quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
> trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
> geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
> good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
> wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
> suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
> There has got to be a better way.
>
> Lee K0WA
> ______________________________________________________________


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Oct 12 13:51:11 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:51:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <20181012170343.E3AB7149B215@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20181012170343.E3AB7149B215@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <d126ae0e-fbcc-8067-aa12-582662a5831a@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/12/2018 10:02 AM, Jim McDonald wrote:
> I use braided copper strap, and my operating desk is about 2' away from the wall, so I can walk behind it.

I wish I had done that when I set up my shack in the home I bought when 
I moved to California.

On 10/12/2018 9:47 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
> There has got to be a better way.

I make short jumpers (an inch or two) with a lug on one end and a Power 
Pole on the other. I then make Power Pole jumpers from there to 
multi-way Power Pole connector blocks, as well as home brew Power Pole 
paralleling junctions that tie my gear to the house ground system.? I 
often take one or more my rigs to the field for Field Day, the 7th area 
QSO Party, and the California QSO Party. Having that short Power Pole 
jumper on the back of the K3 really helps.

On 10/12/2018 9:54 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> I bond each piece of equipment to a common ground terminal on my power 
> supply.? I do not have any ground from the station to the outside.? 
> Only the 3rd pin safety ground is in place.

Most authorities advise that MORE bonding is best. The fundamental 
principle is to have the potential of everything in your home rise to as 
close as possible to the same potential in the event of a strike.? At 
the very least, I would add serious bonds between your operating desk, 
antenna entry panel, and your exterior collection of ground rods, making 
them as short as possible.? The lack of that bonding has the potential 
for a strike generating a very high potential between your operating 
desk and antenna system.? N0AX addresses this in his recent ARRL book on 
Grounding and Bonding.

> The station is fed from a common 240V 4 wire service for the amp and 
> other related equipment.? From the 240V 4 wire service, I break off 
> with 2 duplex outlets on each line side.? Thus the neutral and safety 
> ground are common for the station.

That's great.

>
> All efforts toward lightning protection are implemented outside of the 
> house.? This includes a driven ground system at the base of the tower 
> next to the house and it is bonded outside of the house to the AC 
> Mains ground.? The lightning rod system on the roof is also bonded to 
> the AC Mains ground.

How far are the AC entry and your tower from your shack?? If they're 
very close, that's fine. If not, I'd strongly consider a perimeter 
ground, as described in N0AX's book. I've implemented a perimeter ground 
halfway around the building that houses my shack from the panel to the 
antenna entry panel, with ground rods at four points around that 
perimeter and four more outside the shack. There's a bond from there to 
the antenna panel, and from the panel to the steel conduit (EMT that 
carries AC wiring from the shack to the AC panel.

On 10/12/2018 10:31 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:
> As far as I'm concerned this is just a safety ground, not something 
> worthy of an RF ground. 

What's an RF ground? :)?? And lightning is both a DC event and an RF event.

> All of the other gear is similarly grounded to the same clamp. 
> Worrywarts will wring their hands over ground loops, RF in the shack, 
> install hundreds of dollars worth of ferrite, etc.? None of that here.

Depending on how close your shack is to your antennas, ferrite cores can 
be needed on cables like those from computers to video monitors and 
monitors to their power supplies? to kill RX noise. And until I replaced 
the power supply for my SteppIR controller with a home brew regulated 
33V supply, 15, 12, and 10M bands were unusable, and no amount of 
ferrite would kill the noise! But like you, I use no ferrite cores on 
anything in the RF or audio path -- all that is solved by bonding ALL 
the interconnected gear, including the computer.

73, Jim K9YC


From dave at nk7z.net  Fri Oct 12 14:29:22 2018
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole (NK7Z))
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:29:22 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>

Hi Lee,

When I got my K3 I rebuilt my shack from teh ground up, starting with 
the ground, with an eye to reduction of RFI.  I took a lot of Jim's, 
suggestions, and I lost about 2 S units of noise.  That process is 
detailed here:

https://www.nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 10/12/18 9:47 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
> Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
> your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
> grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
> the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
> quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
> trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
> geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
> good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
> wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
> suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
> There has got to be a better way.
> 
> Lee K0WA
> ______________________________________________________________
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From hdv1 at kpnplanet.nl  Fri Oct 12 15:28:58 2018
From: hdv1 at kpnplanet.nl (Henk de Vries (hdv))
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:28:58 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s / P3 baud rate, poor man's 2nd receiver
Message-ID: <000501d46261$d30dbe30$79293a90$@kpnplanet.nl>

Hi all,

 

Using my home-made RS232 sniffer in order to capture K3s frequency
information while my K3s is exchanging information with Wintest I found some
non-obvious behaviour of the PC - K3s USB baud rate that might interest
others as well.

 

The set-up is PC <a> USB <b> K3s <c> RS232 <d> P3 <e> (PC port of P3) 

<x> = connector/port

 

Normally all baud rates are 38400 bd. 

The link <c> RS232 <d> is 38400 bd and cannot be changed.

 

When changing the baud rate of the P3 (with P3 menu) the rate on <e> becomes
the selected rate (as expected), so 4800, 9600 or 19200 bd.

However also the rate on <a> (USB) <b> is changed to this rate.

 

So the P3 is always in control of the baud rate towards the PC, no matter
the connection towards the PC; via USB port on the K3s or via RS232/PC port
on the P3.

However, when the P3 is switched off, the <a>USB<b> rate reverts to the
default setting of 38400 bd (of the K3s).

 

I thought it worth mentioning, because this behaviour is not explained in
the K3s or P3 manual.

Applications running on the PC will stop unexpectedly when a non-default
baud rate is in use and the P3 is switched off.

 

Going through the schematics I found the reason for this behaviour. 

The USB info is routed to a dedicated IC where it is split in an audio
stream towards the K3(s) and a data stream.

The data stream exits the IC as RS 232.

 

Depending on the cable connector which is plugged in the RJ45 socket of the
K3(s) it is determined if the RS232 signal is processed internally or routed
to the P3.

(a short in the connector indicates "P3 present" towards the K3s, although
just the cable is plugged in). The cable used is the supplied CBLP3Y.

 

In the P3 the RS232 signal coming from the K3s is received on the PC port.
Using the XCVR port on the P3 the RS232 info is looped-back to the K3s (via
the same cable and RJ45 port) 

There is RS232 rx/tx electronics involved in the P3, so the input rate (P3
selectable) can be different from the output rate. (fixed at 38400)

 

Due to the USB to RS232 conversion and routing via the P3, the P3 is in
control of the baud rate of the whole chain towards the PC, including the
USB port.

However when the P3 is switched off a relay connects the P3 PC and XCVR port
(circumventing the internal rx/tx RS232 electronics) and the baud rate is
now determined by the input port of the K3 (38400 bd fixed)

 

It seems a bit odd to convert the USB data stream to RS232, but TMO this
set-up is chosen to maintain compatibility between the "old" K3 <> P3 RS232
way of working (with P3 <> PC connection) and USB K3s or K3 KIO3 USB upgrade

 

Btw, I am using my RS232 sniffer (built around an Arduino and MAX232) to
capture IF and FB data words from the K3s, extract frequency and split
information and convert that to Yaesu CAT protocol.

This way my Yaesu FT 847 is slaved to the K3s (for all bands). 

However I use the slaved FT 847 only for tx-ing on 2 meter, while the K3s +
2 meter converter is used as receiver. (due to this Arduino software
solution I did not need to build a transmit mixer from 28 -> 144 + 50W
amplification chain)

 

The K3 can be set in A1 (auto information) mode (IF info only) in case
Wintest is not used/available.

However these A1 single data words are sometimes missed by the software.

I choose to make the set-up a bit more robust and run a small home-made .exe
which generates IF and FB "GET's" on the USB link towards the K3s when
Wintest is not in use.  

(it would be best if the K3 could send A1 information on a periodic basis.)

 

One of the options is to use this set-up as a "poor man's" 2nd receiver on
HF. The FT847 follows the K3s everywhere. 

Only an additional simple audio switch is needed to get main, "sub" or
diversity reception.

 

Schematic and software (with lots of comments) are available for free for
those who want to build/experiment themselves. (Arduino IDE and Dev C++
compiler or similar are needed)

Contact me off-list if you are interested.

 

73 Henk

PA0C

 

 

 


From Gary at ka1j.com  Fri Oct 12 16:00:39 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:00:39 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <5BC0FD67.388.880C0F6@Gary.ka1j.com>

I too have paid attention to Jim, K9YC's 
advice. Nobody knows it all but he's 
proven to know enough to be an authority 
on the subject so I listen to what he has 
to say.

To that end, I have put in a lot of effort 
to have the Antennas, roof tripod and 
breaker box tied together with #4 solid 
copper wire. Antennas & Rx antennas are 
connected via Polyphaser to the 8' ground 
rod outside the shack.

The #4 ground wire snakes in under the 
door jamb and terminates on a piece of 
flat stock 6" long. I drilled 8 1/4" holes 
in that and have SS 1/4" bolts nutted down 
tight and use the 8 bolts as anchor points 
for the equipment. 

I have #6 insulated copper wire attached 
to the K3, P3, Alpha amp, 6M amp, NCC-2 
and Green Heron Controller. I yet need to 
ground the computer, antenna switch, HI-Z 
controllers and the Iota DLS-55 power 
supply. I also need to find the best way 
to ground the control wires to the rotor, 
the HI-Z cables and the remote coax 
switch.

Braid is much easier to use but since 
things don't get moved much, I bent the 
copper wire to fit the device to the table 
and being ground wire, I like the idea of 
solid wire & I wanted shielded so it 
doesn't inadvertently touch improperly 
down the line and create a ground loop. I 
could have used coax as ground but it 
wouldn't bend well and would always be a 
PITA to deal with.

One thing for sure, I like how consistent 
things seem to be when everything is 
grounded. More, I feel much safer now.

73,

Gary, KA1J

> Hi Lee,
> 
> When I got my K3 I rebuilt my shack from teh ground up, starting with
> the ground, with an eye to reduction of RFI.  I took a lot of Jim's,
> suggestions, and I lost about 2 S units of noise.  That process is
> detailed here:
> 
> https://www.nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL OOC for Oregon


From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Fri Oct 12 17:32:15 2018
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:32:15 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
Message-ID: <201810122132.w9CLWHhY027473@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>

Probably using braid or multi-strand wire would make it easier.  When 
I wired my safety ground to my 8877 PA chassis from ground rod, 
outside, I bought No. 8 awg.  Still pretty stiff.  I have 8-32 studs 
for connection.  2m-8877 was sold in June now all sspa with 12/28/50v PS.

But one thing I did in my shack design was leave at least 30-inch 
space behind My radio table and racks for wiring access to the 
backside of my equipment.  Maybe not something one can do with 
existing station layout but keep in mind if doing renovations.  This 
winter I am making major layout changes now that my PA's will be 
outside at the base of towers or the dish.  I have 17 coax lines 
coming into the shack and about the same number control 
cables.  Stuff gets rearranged often.  It is said that EME is 90% 
maint./engineering and 10% operating.  By end of 2019 hopefully QRV 
on five eme bands and 630m to 3cm in wavelength (not all eme).

73, Ed - KL7UW
Three towers and one dish (so far)

73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   dubususa at gmail.com 


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Oct 12 17:57:49 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:57:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <201810122132.w9CLWHhY027473@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201810122132.w9CLWHhY027473@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <662e0b46-2fd6-5d74-71b5-64e60349afdd@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/12/2018 2:32 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> Probably using braid or multi-strand wire would make it easier. 

Yes, but NEVER used braid exposed to moisture.

73, Jim K9YC


From pubx1 at af2z.net  Fri Oct 12 18:29:09 2018
From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:29:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f354b15-7820-8232-7cb7-24ab00eccfde@af2z.net>

Yes, it is a hassle getting a stiff copper wire on that little ground 
screw. I use 1" braid with a strip of copper sheet folded and soldered 
over the end and a screw hole drilled through-- basically, homemade flat 
terminal lugs on the ends of the braid. Very easy to manage now.

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 10/12/18 12:47, Leroy Buller wrote:
> Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
> your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
> grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
> the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
> quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
> trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
> geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
> good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
> wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
> suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
> There has got to be a better way.
> 
> Lee K0WA
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From mark3575 at icloud.com  Fri Oct 12 20:40:54 2018
From: mark3575 at icloud.com (Mark Wheeler)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 00:40:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)
Message-ID: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>

I'm a new ham...? I just purchased new KPA500 and KAT500 to use with my new K3S/100... following the wiring diagram of the KAT500 manual, page 5, figure 1, I also attached two E850463 cables (ordered from Elecraft), but when I try to transmit into a 1500w dummy load, by following KPA500 manual page 16, I do not get any KPA500 bar graph lights to illuminate as I turn up the K3S power dial from 1 - 30 watts (page 16, step 2), so as a newbie, I cannot figure out what it is I am doing wrong. ?

I rechecked all the wiring, and I do get automatic band switching between the K3S and the KA500, but I cannot figure out how I should "apply a few watts of RF drive" while in "operate mode" to get the kPA500 bar graph to start lighting.? I am pressing the "operate/standby" switch and the KPA500 is switching between the two.

Any assistance is appreciated.? Thanks in advance.? I imagine whatever I am overlooking is probably obvious to many...? Thank you.

73,
Mark
Mark Wheeler?
WU6R

From nr4c at widomaker.com  Fri Oct 12 19:02:29 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:02:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s / P3 baud rate, poor man's 2nd receiver
In-Reply-To: <000501d46261$d30dbe30$79293a90$@kpnplanet.nl>
References: <000501d46261$d30dbe30$79293a90$@kpnplanet.nl>
Message-ID: <A3096A21-9547-44C7-8239-EF5C20A0819D@widomaker.com>

No need to waste a lot of time on this. Set all to 38400, the default speed for the P3 to work well. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Henk de Vries (hdv) <hdv1 at kpnplanet.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Using my home-made RS232 sniffer in order to capture K3s frequency
> information while my K3s is exchanging information with Wintest I found some
> non-obvious behaviour of the PC - K3s USB baud rate that might interest
> others as well.
> 
> 
> 
> The set-up is PC <a> USB <b> K3s <c> RS232 <d> P3 <e> (PC port of P3) 
> 
> <x> = connector/port
> 
> 
> 
> Normally all baud rates are 38400 bd. 
> 
> The link <c> RS232 <d> is 38400 bd and cannot be changed.
> 
> 
> 
> When changing the baud rate of the P3 (with P3 menu) the rate on <e> becomes
> the selected rate (as expected), so 4800, 9600 or 19200 bd.
> 
> However also the rate on <a> (USB) <b> is changed to this rate.
> 
> 
> 
> So the P3 is always in control of the baud rate towards the PC, no matter
> the connection towards the PC; via USB port on the K3s or via RS232/PC port
> on the P3.
> 
> However, when the P3 is switched off, the <a>USB<b> rate reverts to the
> default setting of 38400 bd (of the K3s).
> 
> 
> 
> I thought it worth mentioning, because this behaviour is not explained in


From david.m.shoaf at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 21:22:25 2018
From: david.m.shoaf at gmail.com (David Shoaf)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:22:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)
In-Reply-To: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>
References: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>
Message-ID: <1539393745637-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Download this Application Note from the Power Combo web site.

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K31_2017.pdf

Cheers,

David



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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Fri Oct 12 21:23:35 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:23:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)
In-Reply-To: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>
References: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>
Message-ID: <2763d44e-afc0-abe2-1fb0-ff56c1c15f99@blomand.net>

Mark:

I have the same configuration.? When you transmit into? the dummy load, 
what mode are you using???? If SSB, there is no output until you speak 
into the mike with the correct audio settings.?? TUNE mode is best for 
checking to see that all is working.

I suggest you see top of page 66 of the K3S manual, under TUN PWR from 
the CONFIG menu.? Set this value to 020 watts.? Then to PWR SET page 63 
and set PWR SET to Per Band.

When you press and hold XMIT/TUNE the amp should switch into transmit 
and you should see about 500 watts indicated on the KPA500 bargraph when 
in the amp is in OPER mode.

For each band, I suggest setting the PWR value to 20 watts when in SSB 
or CW transmit mode.? Make sure the ATU in the K3S is set to Bypass.? 
Check this by pressing the ATU/TUNE button.?? You never want to use the 
K3S internal ATU with the KPA500.? The external KAT500 will do everything.

Be sure the E850463 cables are seated correctly on both ends and the 
thumb screws are secure and tight.?? Also be sure the KAT500 is powered 
up at the same time or before the K3S.?? I power my KAT500 from the 12 
VDC output just to the right of the power input of the K3S.

This should get you up and running.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/12/2018 7:40 PM, Mark Wheeler via Elecraft wrote:
> I'm a new ham...? I just purchased new KPA500 and KAT500 to use with 
> my new K3S/100... following the wiring diagram of the KAT500 manual, 
> page 5, figure 1, I also attached two E850463 cables (ordered from 
> Elecraft), but when I try to transmit into a 1500w dummy load, by 
> following KPA500 manual page 16, I do not get any KPA500 bar graph 
> lights to illuminate as I turn up the K3S power dial from 1 - 30 watts 
> (page 16, step 2), so as a newbie, I cannot figure out what it is I am 
> doing wrong.
>
> I rechecked all the wiring, and I do get automatic band switching 
> between the K3S and the KA500, but I cannot figure out how I should 
> "apply a few watts of RF drive" while in "operate mode" to get the 
> kPA500 bar graph to start lighting.? I am pressing the 
> "operate/standby" switch and the KPA500 is switching between the two.
>
> Any assistance is appreciated.? Thanks in advance.? I imagine whatever 
> I am overlooking is probably obvious to many...? Thank you.
>
> 73,
> Mark
> Mark Wheeler
> WU6R
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 12 22:57:01 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:57:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <5f354b15-7820-8232-7cb7-24ab00eccfde@af2z.net>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f354b15-7820-8232-7cb7-24ab00eccfde@af2z.net>
Message-ID: <a7e0e60d-e623-4638-2401-f85a1efb75c4@embarqmail.com>

Why try to connect the wire or braid directly to the ground lug?
Soldering a lug onto the end of a wire or braid makes it "oh so easy" to 
attach.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/12/2018 6:29 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
> Yes, it is a hassle getting a stiff copper wire on that little ground 
> screw. I use 1" braid with a strip of copper sheet folded and soldered 
> over the end and a screw hole drilled through-- basically, homemade flat 
> terminal lugs on the ends of the braid. Very easy to manage now.

From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Fri Oct 12 23:37:15 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:37:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <a7e0e60d-e623-4638-2401-f85a1efb75c4@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-EA56727319D14099A3421F5DE7DD2CB3@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

And when Bob, N6TV visited my station, the asked, "Why aren't 
you using a spade lug for K3 ground?" I could only say, "Duh!".

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/12/18 at 7:57 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

>Why try to connect the wire or braid directly to the ground lug?
>Soldering a lug onto the end of a wire or braid makes it "oh so easy" to attach.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 10/12/2018 6:29 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
>>Yes, it is a hassle getting a stiff copper wire on that little 
>>ground screw. I use 1" braid with a strip of copper sheet 
>>folded and soldered over the end and a screw hole drilled 
>>through-- basically, homemade flat terminal lugs on the ends 
>>of the braid. Very easy to manage now.

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From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 00:03:11 2018
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 07:03:11 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <5BC0FD67.388.880C0F6@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>
	<5BC0FD67.388.880C0F6@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <9044a151-ff4f-be9d-d045-ca1f639434f2@gmail.com>

My shack is only about 6m below my antenna, and although there is a 
concrete roof between us, I had problems of RF pickup in my computer. My 
antenna is balanced, I used a lot of ferrites on the cables, and bonded 
all of the equipment together with copper straps. But the biggest 
improvement came when I bonded the three main parts of my metal office 
desk together and to the equipment.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 12 Oct 2018 23:00, Gary Smith wrote:
> I too have paid attention to Jim, K9YC's
> advice. Nobody knows it all but he's
> proven to know enough to be an authority
> on the subject so I listen to what he has
> to say.
> 
> To that end, I have put in a lot of effort
> to have the Antennas, roof tripod and
> breaker box tied together with #4 solid
> copper wire. Antennas & Rx antennas are
> connected via Polyphaser to the 8' ground
> rod outside the shack.
> 
> The #4 ground wire snakes in under the
> door jamb and terminates on a piece of
> flat stock 6" long. I drilled 8 1/4" holes
> in that and have SS 1/4" bolts nutted down
> tight and use the 8 bolts as anchor points
> for the equipment.
> 
> I have #6 insulated copper wire attached
> to the K3, P3, Alpha amp, 6M amp, NCC-2
> and Green Heron Controller. I yet need to
> ground the computer, antenna switch, HI-Z
> controllers and the Iota DLS-55 power
> supply. I also need to find the best way
> to ground the control wires to the rotor,
> the HI-Z cables and the remote coax
> switch.
> 
> Braid is much easier to use but since
> things don't get moved much, I bent the
> copper wire to fit the device to the table
> and being ground wire, I like the idea of
> solid wire & I wanted shielded so it
> doesn't inadvertently touch improperly
> down the line and create a ground loop. I
> could have used coax as ground but it
> wouldn't bend well and would always be a
> PITA to deal with.
> 
> One thing for sure, I like how consistent
> things seem to be when everything is
> grounded. More, I feel much safer now.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary, KA1J

From donovanf at starpower.net  Sat Oct 13 01:44:31 2018
From: donovanf at starpower.net (donovanf at starpower.net)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:44:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <9044a151-ff4f-be9d-d045-ca1f639434f2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <272469434.10611409.1539409471928.JavaMail.root@starpower.net>

Hi Vic, 


You certainly have lots of RF in the shack, with your shack only six 
meters below your antenna, everything in it (including you!) is part 
of your antenna especially on the low bands. 


Please be sure your personal RF exposure level is safe 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP" <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 4:03:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding 

My shack is only about 6m below my antenna, and although there is a 
concrete roof between us, I had problems of RF pickup in my computer. My 
antenna is balanced, I used a lot of ferrites on the cables, and bonded 
all of the equipment together with copper straps. But the biggest 
improvement came when I bonded the three main parts of my metal office 
desk together and to the equipment. 

73, 
Victor, 4X6GP 
Rehovot, Israel 
Formerly K2VCO 
CWops no. 5 
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ 
On 12 Oct 2018 23:00, Gary Smith wrote: 
> I too have paid attention to Jim, K9YC's 
> advice. Nobody knows it all but he's 
> proven to know enough to be an authority 
> on the subject so I listen to what he has 
> to say. 
> 
> To that end, I have put in a lot of effort 
> to have the Antennas, roof tripod and 
> breaker box tied together with #4 solid 
> copper wire. Antennas & Rx antennas are 
> connected via Polyphaser to the 8' ground 
> rod outside the shack. 
> 
> The #4 ground wire snakes in under the 
> door jamb and terminates on a piece of 
> flat stock 6" long. I drilled 8 1/4" holes 
> in that and have SS 1/4" bolts nutted down 
> tight and use the 8 bolts as anchor points 
> for the equipment. 
> 
> I have #6 insulated copper wire attached 
> to the K3, P3, Alpha amp, 6M amp, NCC-2 
> and Green Heron Controller. I yet need to 
> ground the computer, antenna switch, HI-Z 
> controllers and the Iota DLS-55 power 
> supply. I also need to find the best way 
> to ground the control wires to the rotor, 
> the HI-Z cables and the remote coax 
> switch. 
> 
> Braid is much easier to use but since 
> things don't get moved much, I bent the 
> copper wire to fit the device to the table 
> and being ground wire, I like the idea of 
> solid wire & I wanted shielded so it 
> doesn't inadvertently touch improperly 
> down the line and create a ground loop. I 
> could have used coax as ground but it 
> wouldn't bend well and would always be a 
> PITA to deal with. 
> 
> One thing for sure, I like how consistent 
> things seem to be when everything is 
> grounded. More, I feel much safer now. 
> 
> 73, 
> 
> Gary, KA1J 
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From rwnewbould at comcast.net  Sat Oct 13 09:04:48 2018
From: rwnewbould at comcast.net (Rich)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:04:48 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B USB Question
In-Reply-To: <358a6fd6-b44c-72fd-b040-eb79cd3a4ef0@embarqmail.com>
References: <b1d5114d-dc8a-aafe-40a9-912ec72aecbe@comcast.net>
	<358a6fd6-b44c-72fd-b040-eb79cd3a4ef0@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <1ddb909f-f743-795e-9b96-ee8a1a98fac6@comcast.net>

Thank you.?? I thought I found a way to use the USB port for audio/rig 
control and the other for sending Freq data to the SDR.

I guess not.

Thanks again

Rich


On 10/12/2018 11:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Not quite.? You do NOT want to connect the CBLP3Y cable to a USB to 
> serial port adapter.? You will not only have communications failures, 
> but you may damage the K3 USB port output and the USB to serial 
> adapter because you will have two drivers on the same RS-232 signal 
> lines.
>
> I assume you have a P3 since you have the CBLP3Y cable.
>
> You can connect a simple RD-232 Y cable to the PC port on the P3 with 
> the CBLP3Y cable plugged into one side of the Y and the serial cable 
> to your SDR receiver on the other side.
>
> Your SDR receiver must turn its driver off - it can listen to the 
> RS-232 traffic, but it cannot transmit requests or commands.
>
> You may have to set up virtual ports with LP-Bridge or Com0Com.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/11/2018 11:31 PM, Rich wrote:
>> If I am reading correctly in Fred's book.?? I can connect the *CBLP3Y 
>> cable to a USB to RS232 adapter to my computer which would create a 
>> second comport from the radio to my computer.?? For example (if I am 
>> reading correctly)*
>>
>> *The USB port could be used to for audio codec and rig control (which 
>> I am already doing successfully)*
>>
>> *The RJ45 comport output could be sent to a computer to send freq/rig 
>> data to an SDR receiver for example.*
>>
>> *Is my thinking/reading correct?*
>>
>> *This seems very straight forward, but I was hoping to get some 
>> thoughts from others before I try it.*
>>
>> *Thanks*
>>
>> *Rich*
>>
>> *K3RWN
>> *
>>
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From pubx1 at af2z.net  Sat Oct 13 09:41:27 2018
From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:41:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <a7e0e60d-e623-4638-2401-f85a1efb75c4@embarqmail.com>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f354b15-7820-8232-7cb7-24ab00eccfde@af2z.net>
	<a7e0e60d-e623-4638-2401-f85a1efb75c4@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <1f164cdc-0a73-90d9-b800-dc12b3d53448@af2z.net>

I *am* using a homemade lug, as stated. It's neater than cramming 1" of 
braid into the round barrel of a terminal lug. The braid lays flat right 
off the screw terminal and onto the desk surface, no bunching into the lug.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On 10/12/18 22:57, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Why try to connect the wire or braid directly to the ground lug?
> Soldering a lug onto the end of a wire or braid makes it "oh so easy" to 
> attach.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 10/12/2018 6:29 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
>> Yes, it is a hassle getting a stiff copper wire on that little ground 
>> screw. I use 1" braid with a strip of copper sheet folded and soldered 
>> over the end and a screw hole drilled through-- basically, homemade 
>> flat terminal lugs on the ends of the braid. Very easy to manage now.
> 


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Oct 13 10:55:25 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:55:25 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <662e0b46-2fd6-5d74-71b5-64e60349afdd@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <201810122132.w9CLWHhY027473@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
	<662e0b46-2fd6-5d74-71b5-64e60349afdd@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <fa24b292-fe64-e699-982a-42feb41acf81@blomand.net>

For the station bonding jumpers, #10 AWG auto primary wire with a ring 
terminal attached is very adequate.?? Easy to work with, inexpensive, 
does the job,? and makes for a clean installation. Personally, I crimp 
{mechanical connection}? and solder {electrical connection} my ring 
terminals on the jumpers.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/12/2018 4:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 2:32 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> Probably using braid or multi-strand wire would make it easier. 
>
> Yes, but NEVER used braid exposed to moisture.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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From fcady at montana.edu  Sat Oct 13 11:04:57 2018
From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:04:57 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)
In-Reply-To: <1539393745637-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>,
	<1539393745637-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB397362B75BD17BC22CB8B90AAFE30@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Mark,

You may find these of help too.

http://www.ke7x.com/
Scroll to the bottom of the page and download the "Intro Guide" and "Tuner Operation" explanations.

Cheers,
Fred KE7X

A new KE7X book is out entitled "The Successful Ham Radio Operator's Handbook".  Aimed at the newly licensed ham or the old timer coming back into the hobby.  See details at www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>.
Lulu  has 15% off on your order.  Use the code FWD15.

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of David Shoaf <david.m.shoaf at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:22 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)

Download this Application Note from the Power Combo web site.

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K31_2017.pdf

Cheers,

David



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From jc_ki7y at q.com  Sat Oct 13 11:12:36 2018
From: jc_ki7y at q.com (Jim Cassidy)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:12:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>
Message-ID: <501744000.9415185.1539443556231.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>

To connect flat braid to equipment I have simply tinned the end and drilled an appropriate size hole thru the tinned end.  Simplest form of ring lug.

----- Original Message -----
From: "dave" <dave at nk7z.net>
To: "Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:29:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

Hi Lee,

When I got my K3 I rebuilt my shack from teh ground up, starting with 
the ground, with an eye to reduction of RFI.  I took a lot of Jim's, 
suggestions, and I lost about 2 S units of noise.  That process is 
detailed here:

https://www.nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 10/12/18 9:47 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
> Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground
> your K3 or your rig?  I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find
> grounding the K3 somewhat difficult.  Why?  Getting my fat ham fingers to
> the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is
> quite infuriating.  All the connecting cables are in the way and it just
> trips my trigger.  Then being able to reach over all the doodads and
> geegaws to attach ground is a frustration of mine.  Many years ago it was
> good practice to use solid wire but now i see others using braid.  Stiff
> wire adds to my frustration.   So, for my mental health I would like some
> suggestions or ideas how best to deal with this.  I know...suck it up.
> There has got to be a better way.
> 
> Lee K0WA
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From mark3575 at icloud.com  Sat Oct 13 11:28:33 2018
From: mark3575 at icloud.com (Mark Wheeler)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:28:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR02MB397362B75BD17BC22CB8B90AAFE30@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <72313e94-c528-475d-bb17-2dc4cc361b83@me.com>
	<1539393745637-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<BYAPR02MB397362B75BD17BC22CB8B90AAFE30@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <35A0A38C-27A6-4162-AC28-03DCB1DD647B@icloud.com>

Fred,

Thank you Sir! I have several of your excellent books and use them all the time. 

I?ll be sure to check them out.

Last week I ordered the KPA500 book and I?m waiting for it to arrive. 

Have a great day. 

73,
Mark
WU6R 

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Cady, Fred <fcady at montana.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> You may find these of help too.
> http://www.ke7x.com/
> Scroll to the bottom of the page and download the "Intro Guide" and "Tuner Operation" explanations.
> 
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
> 
> A new KE7X book is out entitled "The Successful Ham Radio Operator's Handbook".  Aimed at the newly licensed ham or the old timer coming back into the hobby.  See details at www.ke7x.com.  
> Lulu  has 15% off on your order.  Use the code FWD15.
> 
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of David Shoaf <david.m.shoaf at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KAT500/KPA500 Setup Questions (Mark WU6R)
>  
> Download this Application Note from the Power Combo web site.
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K31_2017.pdf
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Sat Oct 13 11:42:43 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:42:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Hurricane comms?
In-Reply-To: <8FB334A8-4A75-454C-BEA8-4CD9F96FA6AB@wunderwood.org>
References: <14DC7B56-B4FA-4333-A943-A2A52A80AAD9@elecraft.com>
	<cce5b17c-9d7b-eb09-b8b1-68454fd08721@coastside.net>
	<8FB334A8-4A75-454C-BEA8-4CD9F96FA6AB@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <09DCCDEF-BFB4-4C51-9A3A-A0B1D0C85E46@wunderwood.org>

Nice news story. QRZ says Lee Paulet is AA1NW. From the video, he?s on 7.251.

https://www.mypanhandle.com/weather/hurricane/amateur-radio-operators-provide-hurricane-aid-through-the-airwaves/1518968280 <https://www.mypanhandle.com/weather/hurricane/amateur-radio-operators-provide-hurricane-aid-through-the-airwaves/1518968280>

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:
> 
> Just got this update in my ARRL Letter. Key points:
> 
> 	? The Hurricane Watch Net (HWN) resumed operations Wednesday morning and will remain active until further notice on 14.325.00 MHz and 7.268.00 MHz. 
> 	? WX4NHC, the Amateur Radio at the National Hurricane Center, is active to receive observed weather information and data via Amateur Radio to aid forecasters. 
> 	? The VoIP Hurricane Net activated this morning to support communication with the National Hurricane Center.
> 	? The Southern Territory Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) will remain active until 9 PM ET on Wednesday and will reactivate on Thursday, if necessary. The net will handle emergency, priority, and health-and-welfare traffic from impacted areas, provide ground-truth information from Amateur Radio stations and other sources in the impacted areas for forwarding to Salvation Army leadership. SATERN has been requested to provide Amateur Radio operators for Pensacola, Panama City, Tallahassee, and Tampa, as well as two to three local units in Georgia, and Divisional Headquarters in Atlanta. 
> 	? The ARRL North Florida and West Central Florida sections are assisting SATERN with additional operators in Pensacola, Panama City, Tallahassee, and Tampa. North Florida Section ARES is at Level 1 (full) activation. 
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/news/amateur-radio-assets-active-as-category-4-hurricane-michael-makes-landfall <http://www.arrl.org/news/amateur-radio-assets-active-as-category-4-hurricane-michael-makes-landfall>
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Brian Hunt <huntinhmb at coastside.net <mailto:huntinhmb at coastside.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Hurricane Watch Net was active most of yesterday on 14325 and 7268.  They were soliciting and passing weather observations from the area.  Very well organized and directed nets.  I'm not hearing them this morning on 20m but it may be propagation conditions.  See here for more: http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-headquarters-on-alert-for-hurricane-michael <http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-headquarters-on-alert-for-hurricane-michael>
>> 
>> 73,
>> Brian, K0DTJ
>> 
>> 
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From dave at nk7z.net  Sat Oct 13 11:51:37 2018
From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole (NK7Z))
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:51:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] RFI Snapshots wanted...
Message-ID: <b4c313c8-0bae-9137-e936-3a53d0175bdf@nk7z.net>

Hi,

I have added an informal and unscientific survey asking if you have RFI 
at https://www.nk7z.net

Please take it if you have time.  It is a single question asking if you 
have RFI.  It is two posts down on the right side.  Sorry for no direct 
link to it, it is on the sidebar.

Also, if you have any screen shots of KNOWN RFI sources, please send 
them to me directly at my email address and I will include them on the 
RFI snapshot page at https://www.nk7z.net/rfi-snapshots/

-- 
73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

From K1ND at comcast.net  Sat Oct 13 13:22:34 2018
From: K1ND at comcast.net (Jan)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:22:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
Message-ID: <fe34e816-3b96-a57d-d4b1-162c9c0fff77@comcast.net>

Confession:? I never ground anything, except via the 3-conductor power 
cords . . . . Am I the only one? . . . .

I've been a ham for 64 years, lived & operated in Michigan(first as 
Wn8SWN/W8SWN), in Malaysia (as 9M2JJ; 1962-64), in Finland (as 
OH1/K1ND/P for a week, 2003), in Maine (as WA1VZZ & K1ND for 7 years) 
and now back in Michigan(as K1ND) since 1982.

I've never had a strike;? I'm not on the Honor Role (by choice) ~ worked 
21 DX entities since January and operate nearly everyday of the year = 
some CW and some SSB.

Cheers, Jan K1ND


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Oct 13 14:23:06 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:23:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <fe34e816-3b96-a57d-d4b1-162c9c0fff77@comcast.net>
References: <fe34e816-3b96-a57d-d4b1-162c9c0fff77@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4e74f3d2-a22e-fd6d-d68d-96e682d13613@blomand.net>

Nope.? That is the same grounding scheme I've used for years. The 3rd 
pin safety ground is really all that is needed for the station inside.

As to lightning protection, that is done outside of the house and takes 
into account the tower, the rotor, the antennas and it is bonded outside 
of the house back to the AC Mains entrance ground.

73
Bob, K4TAX



On 10/13/2018 12:22 PM, Jan wrote:
> Confession: I never ground anything, except via the 3-conductor power 
> cords . . . . Am I the only one? . . . .
>
> I've been a ham for 64 years, lived & operated in Michigan(first as 
> Wn8SWN/W8SWN), in Malaysia (as 9M2JJ; 1962-64), in Finland (as 
> OH1/K1ND/P for a week, 2003), in Maine (as WA1VZZ & K1ND for 7 years) 
> and now back in Michigan(as K1ND) since 1982.
>
> I've never had a strike;? I'm not on the Honor Role (by choice) ~ 
> worked 21 DX entities since January and operate nearly everyday of the 
> year = some CW and some SSB.
>
> Cheers, Jan K1ND
>
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From ebasilier at cox.net  Sat Oct 13 14:34:05 2018
From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:34:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding
In-Reply-To: <n3Dn1y00b45oxQM013Dofw>
References: <CANys+BVBhGvoNqgzGoXqpKg8+kcJubf6Fj8-4EX_zFuYBiDEkA@mail.gmail.com>	<0d6cc694-1995-7272-e219-4beeecf9c4ca@nk7z.net>
	<n3Dn1y00b45oxQM013Dofw>
Message-ID: <00c301d46323$527e96a0$f77bc3e0$@cox.net>

I do something similar, but tin only a very short tip of the braid, then use
an awl to create a hole in the untinned braid near the end. Using 1/2" wide
flat braid.
73,
Erik K7TV

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Jim Cassidy
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 8:13 AM
To: dave <dave at nk7z.net>
Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

To connect flat braid to equipment I have simply tinned the end and drilled
an appropriate size hole thru the tinned end.  Simplest form of ring lug.




From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 13 15:45:34 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:45:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B USB Question
In-Reply-To: <1ddb909f-f743-795e-9b96-ee8a1a98fac6@comcast.net>
References: <b1d5114d-dc8a-aafe-40a9-912ec72aecbe@comcast.net>
	<358a6fd6-b44c-72fd-b040-eb79cd3a4ef0@embarqmail.com>
	<1ddb909f-f743-795e-9b96-ee8a1a98fac6@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9e035188-a753-f0b6-a51b-174288161abb@embarqmail.com>

Rich,

The RS-232 lines in the K3 are essentially the same as the lines to the 
internal USB adapter.
That means that they are NOT two separate ports.

Yes, using the serial dongle that comes with the K3S or the KIO3B 
upgrade for the K3 does allow you to use an RS-232 port or USB adapter 
to connect to the K3, but you must move the switch on the back of the 
KIO3B in order to do that.

You would have to link the two com ports using a computer application, 
and I don't know of one that will do that.
i.e. take the COM port data from the K3 USB 'COM' port and feed it to 
the port that connects to the SDR.
As I recall, LP-bridge may have that capability, but it rather complex 
and I have not studied it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/13/2018 9:04 AM, Rich wrote:
> Thank you.?? I thought I found a way to use the USB port for audio/rig 
> control and the other for sending Freq data to the SDR.
>
> I guess not.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Rich
>
>
> On 10/12/2018 11:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Rich,
>>
>> Not quite.? You do NOT want to connect the CBLP3Y cable to a USB to 
>> serial port adapter.? You will not only have communications failures, 
>> but you may damage the K3 USB port output and the USB to serial 
>> adapter because you will have two drivers on the same RS-232 signal 
>> lines.
>>
>> I assume you have a P3 since you have the CBLP3Y cable.
>>
>> You can connect a simple RD-232 Y cable to the PC port on the P3 with 
>> the CBLP3Y cable plugged into one side of the Y and the serial cable 
>> to your SDR receiver on the other side.
>>
>> Your SDR receiver must turn its driver off - it can listen to the 
>> RS-232 traffic, but it cannot transmit requests or commands.
>>
>> You may have to set up virtual ports with LP-Bridge or Com0Com.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 10/11/2018 11:31 PM, Rich wrote:
>>> If I am reading correctly in Fred's book.?? I can connect the 
>>> *CBLP3Y cable to a USB to RS232 adapter to my computer which would 
>>> create a second comport from the radio to my computer.?? For example 
>>> (if I am reading correctly)*
>>>
>>> *The USB port could be used to for audio codec and rig control 
>>> (which I am already doing successfully)*
>>>
>>> *The RJ45 comport output could be sent to a computer to send 
>>> freq/rig data to an SDR receiver for example.*
>>>
>>> *Is my thinking/reading correct?*
>>>
>>> *This seems very straight forward, but I was hoping to get some 
>>> thoughts from others before I try it.*
>>>
>>> *Thanks*
>>>
>>> *Rich*
>>>
>>> *K3RWN
>>> *
>>>
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From w4das at comcast.net  Sat Oct 13 20:45:27 2018
From: w4das at comcast.net (Doug Shields)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 20:45:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 kit for sale
Message-ID: <018d01d46357$43845e80$ca8d1b80$@net>

Hello everyone,

      I have an unopened KPA100 amplifier kit available for sale.  It is
just as received from Elecraft.  I have too many projects and too little
time to build this one as a spare for my K2 setup.  $400 shipped and insured
to US destinations.  I can accept Paypal, cash, check or money order.

 

Doug W4DAS

Stuart, Florida



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From edauer at law.du.edu  Sat Oct 13 22:18:28 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 02:18:28 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Inhibit Antenna Switching on KX3 - KXPA100
Message-ID: <D1C995C4-1532-467E-8768-2957EDFD67B2@law.du.edu>

Way back when, I came across instructions for preventing the ANT button on a KX3 driving a KXPA100 from changing antennas.  It was useful then, to avoid a no-antenna condition in case the op forgot what was connected to what.  I would now like to unblock it, so that the KXPA output can be switched from the KX3 panel, but I can no longer find that instruction.  A word search of the Manual produced nothing, and the Menu titles seem likewise mute on the subject.  The KXPA Utility allows an antenna selection but I don?t see this configuration option.  Anyone know how?  Tnx,

Ted, KN1CBR

From kevinr at coho.net  Sat Oct 13 22:41:49 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:41:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <d45ffb9a-696f-bb42-b522-7acb34298d2c@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ??? It is spider season.? Just after the first taste of the rainy 
season and just before the mushrooms appear in mats.? Yes, spider 
season, when you can't walk more than about ten feet without getting a 
face full of web.? Every time I forget to walk with my arms in front of 
me I get coated.? They are not very big this year.? Maybe they are 
cyclical like the grouse.? The ruffed grouse is at a peak population 
level right now.? Luckily when they flush nearby they clear out some of 
those spider webs.

 ?? The sun is hinting at a new sunspot and there are some aurora.? The 
sun is rapidly moving southward changing propagation in its own way.? I 
think the thunderstorms from the latest hurricane will be off the coast 
of North Carolina by the time the nets start tomorrow.? But who knows 
what that may have dragged into the middle of the country?? Nevertheless 
I'll work around conditions as best I can.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

_




From glcazzola at alice.it  Sun Oct 14 04:03:55 2018
From: glcazzola at alice.it (IK4EWX)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 01:03:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 S-meter
Message-ID: <1539504235508-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

On the P3  on CW the signals seem always lower than on my Elecraft K3S (even
2 S-unit).
This morning I tested the P3 S-meter with my HP8640 signal generator and I
found that on every band the 50uV signal result in a perfect S9 on both K3S
and P3.
Now I think the real question is to introduce a correct averaging of the
signal. 
I tried it but it doesnt solve.
In the past I read here that the difference is caused by 1hz window of P3
when on K3 you have 200 or 500hz windows.
It is not so, with a steady signal both units indicate S9 with 50uV.
There is the problem for the commutated dits and dash of a CW signal?
Is it possible to have a suggestion from mr. Burdick or other Elecraft tech
about this question?
Ian IK4EWX
 



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From pg at fivesevenfive.org  Sun Oct 14 10:23:59 2018
From: pg at fivesevenfive.org (Phil Genera)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:23:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Inhibit Antenna Switching on KX3 - KXPA100
In-Reply-To: <D1C995C4-1532-467E-8768-2957EDFD67B2@law.du.edu>
References: <D1C995C4-1532-467E-8768-2957EDFD67B2@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <CANvpZakqn8D-Q+5kR3ZK-V_MDYjq4H6ErGL85D=pefDsbvoGrw@mail.gmail.com>

It's in the kxpa100 utility, you can enable antenna ports per-band.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 22:18 Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:

> Way back when, I came across instructions for preventing the ANT button on
> a KX3 driving a KXPA100 from changing antennas.  It was useful then, to
> avoid a no-antenna condition in case the op forgot what was connected to
> what.  I would now like to unblock it, so that the KXPA output can be
> switched from the KX3 panel, but I can no longer find that instruction.  A
> word search of the Manual produced nothing, and the Menu titles seem
> likewise mute on the subject.  The KXPA Utility allows an antenna selection
> but I don?t see this configuration option.  Anyone know how?  Tnx,
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
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From jimk8mr at aol.com  Sun Oct 14 14:21:42 2018
From: jimk8mr at aol.com (Jim)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:21:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Oddness
Message-ID: <ADC20F52-3F36-44D7-8642-2F3E29B19F42@aol.com>

I had some weird stuff with my K3 this weekend. I had set it up in my car on Friday for a Saturday trip in the PA QSO Party. After a cool damp night, on Saturday morning the K3 was weird: every time I tuned a few KHz I heard relays clicking inside, I assume from the antenna tuner. And I was getting ?out of band? error messages when tuning above 3750 or so. 

After half an hour of warming up with power on, and a bit of RF going out, things calmed down and worked OK for the rest of the weekend.

Does this indicate some failing components and/or marginal connections? Or anything else that might indicate further issues down the road (oops, sorry for that pun  :-)  ) ?


This weekend we also encountered one other odd problem. Every time driver AF8A would close the driver door on the van, I?d lose audio for a second or so. I was scratching my head imagining what sort of intermittent connection or other problem we were dealing with. About ten hours into the PAQP trip we figured out that the Bose QC-15 noise cancelling headphones were working quite well   :-)


73   -  Jim   K8MR

From ed.n3cw at gmail.com  Sun Oct 14 15:03:42 2018
From: ed.n3cw at gmail.com (Ed G)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:03:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
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I?m not sure of the exact month, but I believe 2018 is the 20th year since Elecraft?s founding.  I haven?t seen any other posts on this, so thought I?d pass along my best wishes and sincere thanks to the Elecraft folks, especially Wayne and Eric.  When you look at what they have accomplished in 20 years, it is mind-boggling (but fun) to speculate on what the next 20 years might bring.
--Ed, N3CW?


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From ko5v at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 14 15:19:48 2018
From: ko5v at earthlink.net (Jim KO5V)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 13:19:48 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 C22 Adjustment Method Question
Message-ID: <476568268.2524.1539544788182@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Good afternoon,

A couple of weeks ago, I pulled # 7225 out of its long hibernation and finished it Friday night. It lives, and it has passed all of its tests! The only problem I had was during the VCO test. It was showing 0000.00, and after about 4 hours, I found that C68 was not a 10pf cap - it was a 1pf cap labelled "1D" - which looked a lot like a "10" to me. I built and added the SSB adapter yesterday, and I plan to set up the mic this afternoon. So far, I've heard signals on 80M-17M, and it sounds pretty good, although I still need to properly set up the filters with Spectrogram. 

This is my third K2, I stupidly sold #1, and #2 was killed because some idiot forgot to unhook the antenna a couple of days before an electrical storm. Anyway, I really enjoy building these kits!

For adjusting C22, I don't have a receiver that I trust to be accurate @ 4MHz. Looking at Don's page, I decided to use Wayne's method of moving the internal probe from TP1 to TP2 after zero-beating WWV @ 10MHz. The signal was weak, but in cw mode, I could hear the carrier (I hope that's what it was...). My K2's tone is set to 600hz, so using "Spot", I zero-beat WWV's carrier in cw and cwR, which seemed to occur within 10Hz of each other. I then switched to usb and adjusted C22 so the readings at TP1 and TP2 were within +/- 20Hz (best I could do). I ran CAL PLL, and CAL filter on 40M. WWV seems to be almost right on at 10000.01MHz. However, when I switch to 20Mhz, and use then same method to zero-beat with Spot and cw and cwR, the reading is 19.999.92MHz.

Is this a normal thing, or is my understanding of the method flawed? I would bet on the latter...

Thanks in advance. 

73, Jim KO5V

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sun Oct 14 15:42:17 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:42:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 C22 Adjustment Method Question
In-Reply-To: <476568268.2524.1539544788182@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <476568268.2524.1539544788182@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <633acee5-907b-bf43-198a-a7af71a47e15@embarqmail.com>

Jim,

You really need to use an AM station like WWV so you do not encounter 
the receive offset problem.  Using Spectrogram to receive WWV can help 
you see the transmitted tone.  There is a distinctive tone for one 
second at the start of each minute, even if you cannot see the 500 and 
600 Hz tones that are transmitted.  Try both 15MHz WWV which can usually 
be heard during daylight hours and 10 MHz WWV which is usually stronger 
at night.

If you can only receive a carrier, you can use alternate method of 
tuning in WWV.  That is detailed in the link on my website.
That link is by Vicen? Llario, EA3ADV.  That link was written for 
receiving RWM at 9996.00 kHz which transmits only a carrier, but can 
also be applied to the carrier of WWV.  Note that it is more complex 
than using the WWV tones.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/14/2018 3:19 PM, Jim KO5V wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> A couple of weeks ago, I pulled # 7225 out of its long hibernation and finished it Friday night. It lives, and it has passed all of its tests! The only problem I had was during the VCO test. It was showing 0000.00, and after about 4 hours, I found that C68 was not a 10pf cap - it was a 1pf cap labelled "1D" - which looked a lot like a "10" to me. I built and added the SSB adapter yesterday, and I plan to set up the mic this afternoon. So far, I've heard signals on 80M-17M, and it sounds pretty good, although I still need to properly set up the filters with Spectrogram.
> 
> This is my third K2, I stupidly sold #1, and #2 was killed because some idiot forgot to unhook the antenna a couple of days before an electrical storm. Anyway, I really enjoy building these kits!
> 
> For adjusting C22, I don't have a receiver that I trust to be accurate @ 4MHz. Looking at Don's page, I decided to use Wayne's method of moving the internal probe from TP1 to TP2 after zero-beating WWV @ 10MHz. The signal was weak, but in cw mode, I could hear the carrier (I hope that's what it was...). My K2's tone is set to 600hz, so using "Spot", I zero-beat WWV's carrier in cw and cwR, which seemed to occur within 10Hz of each other. I then switched to usb and adjusted C22 so the readings at TP1 and TP2 were within +/- 20Hz (best I could do). I ran CAL PLL, and CAL filter on 40M. WWV seems to be almost right on at 10000.01MHz. However, when I switch to 20Mhz, and use then same method to zero-beat with Spot and cw and cwR, the reading is 19.999.92MHz.
> 
> Is this a normal thing, or is my understanding of the method flawed? I would bet on the latter...

From n1al at sonic.net  Sun Oct 14 17:10:12 2018
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:10:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 S-meter
In-Reply-To: <1539504235508-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1539504235508-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <9f7b8dba-a53e-b0ad-7d4b-6c23f437946e@sonic.net>


From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sun Oct 14 17:26:47 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:26:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <5bc3930e.1c69fb81.6088b.04cf@mx.google.com>
References: <mailman.2508.1539362868.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5bc3930e.1c69fb81.6088b.04cf@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <68001356-0ca6-bd69-6ce7-ee15c368422f@foothill.net>

Retirement? [:-)

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
On 10/14/2018 12:03 PM, Ed G wrote:
> When you look at what they have accomplished in 20 years, it is mind-boggling (but fun) to speculate on what the next 20 years might bring.
> --Ed, N3CW?
>


From w4das at comcast.net  Sun Oct 14 17:49:29 2018
From: w4das at comcast.net (Doug Shields)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 17:49:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 Pre-wound Toroids for sale
Message-ID: <01aa01d46407$c9093700$5b1ba500$@net>

Hello everyone,

      I have a set of pre-wound toroids for the KAT100 autotuner for sale.
I received these with a tuner that I built but I always wind my own toroids.
All are as received from Mychael Morohovich.  Mychael gets $37.50 plus $8
for shipping.  I will ship my set to any US destination for $27.50.  I can
accept payments through Paypal, cash, check or money order.  

     I am cleaning out spares and other stuff I have collected to raise
funds to update my K3 to the latest specs.

 

Doug  W4DAS



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From sashangus at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 14 19:39:06 2018
From: sashangus at yahoo.com (Robert Brown)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:39:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 for sale
Message-ID: <F7537687-EBEE-457A-8BFF-B77A670051A9@yahoo.com>

Excellent condition KXPD3, $65 shipped.  Bob Brown, N1CVX

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From kf0ur at radins.us  Sun Oct 14 19:55:44 2018
From: kf0ur at radins.us (Shel Radin KF0UR)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:55:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] QRPworks at Pacificon
Message-ID: <1539561344199-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi All,

QRPworks will be at Pacificon in San Ramon, CA  next weekend.   It's our
first time there and we're excited to be part of it.

We'll have the usual array of QRPworks goodies, including the new SolMate
small solar charge controller, and a limited supply of our new Stay Tuned
SWR and Power meter.  With Stay Tuned you can HEAR your SWR. Perfect for
tuning Mag Loops where you might not be next to and in view of your
traditional SWR meter.  And it works with all other antennas, of course.  
We will get more info posted on our website very soon.

73,

Shel KF0UR & Steve KB3SII
www.QRPworks.com




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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Oct 14 21:46:08 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 18:46:08 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] =?utf-8?q?Today=E2=80=99s_AX1_report?=
Message-ID: <D631D4E7-DC41-4A2F-84CF-E0857E0076AF@elecraft.com>

Today I climbed up McGinty Peak trail, a steep, rocky hike with a great payoff ? a nearly 360 degree view of western San Diego county. 

At the top I pulled out the KX2 and used it HT style with the AX1. Bands were in moderately good shape. In short order I worked TI8II (20 CW), JA2CQZ (17 SSB), and KH6TE (20 SSB). All solid QSOs ... a satisfying test of the first AX1 off the production line. 

A large batch of AX1s have now been shipped. Please share your experiences, both natural and ionospheric. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Oct 14 22:52:50 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 21:52:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>

What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
receive?? I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
bracket with 4-40 x 1/4". ?? Any traction to this?

The amp performs absolutely fantastic.? The clicks and pops are more 
annoying when working high duty cycle modes.

Thanks in advance.

73

Bob, K4TAX

KPA500 s/n 3519



From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Oct 14 23:43:41 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:43:41 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <9d683338-1d55-2b05-8cac-ae0a44c706c0@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? Both bands were quiet.? Signals were stronger on 40 meters but there 
was a slow and medium QSB.? There were two concerning reports however.? 
Snow?? Roy did mention how festive it looked then something about a 
shovel.? Half way through October and winter is sneaking in.? 
Propagation improved with the changing season but the time change is 
coming up in two weeks if I remember correctly.? Because of where we are 
in the solar cycle it may be good to not change the net time and keep 
what propagation we have.


 ? On 14050 kHz at 2200z:

NO8V - John - MI

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K4TO - Dave - KY

K6XK - Roy - IA


 ? On 7047 kHz at 0000z:

W6JHB - Jim - CA

KG7V - Marv - WA

K6XK - Roy - IA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K4TO - Dave - KY

W0CZ - Ken - ND


Moving to 7047 kHz for the forty meter net has worked well.? Much less 
problem with QRM.? It is fun to test how each band compares to the other 
and see how various antennas perform.

 ?? 73,

 ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS

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From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Oct 15 02:11:55 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 23:11:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 for sale
In-Reply-To: <F7537687-EBEE-457A-8BFF-B77A670051A9@yahoo.com>
References: <F7537687-EBEE-457A-8BFF-B77A670051A9@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1539583915056-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Bob,

I would like to ask if it is latest KXPD3s include improved dot/dash paddle
connection wires and if it is possible to ship to Czech please?

many thanks, 



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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Oct 15 05:33:47 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 05:33:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
References: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <178A59BD-B537-4610-9314-3A59070090E7@widomaker.com>

Ear plugs. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 14, 2018, at 10:52 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during receive?  I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z bracket with 4-40 x 1/4".    Any traction to this?
> 
> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.  The clicks and pops are more annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> KPA500 s/n 3519
> 
> 
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From bob.novas at verizon.net  Mon Oct 15 08:48:22 2018
From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:48:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S and Winlink Express Configuration
Message-ID: <006501d46485$5b593d30$120bb790$@verizon.net>

Can anyone provide details on configuring an K3S and Winlink Express for
winmor operation?  I'd appreciate any details you can share.  Thanks, Bob -
W3DK


From sashangus at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 15 09:09:07 2018
From: sashangus at yahoo.com (Robert Brown)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:09:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 for sale
Message-ID: <8478CCF1-FCEE-489A-BFA0-AD420ADC00E6@yahoo.com>

Peter:

I?ve separately replied to you, but as at several others have asked, the key had the first retrofit performed (pcb replacement and new springs), but not the subsequent one with the wires.  The first was free - the second was something like $89.  Having said that, I never had a problem with the key (simply sold the KX3 after acquiring a used KX2).

Bob Brown, N1CVX


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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 15 10:22:50 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 07:22:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
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References: <mailman.2508.1539362868.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5bc3930e.1c69fb81.6088b.04cf@mx.google.com>
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Thanks, Ed. The exact date is hard to pin down. Nonetheless, we?ll keep your kind words in mind as the wild ride continues. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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> On Oct 14, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Ed G <ed.n3cw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?m not sure of the exact month, but I believe 2018 is the 20th year since Elecraft?s founding.  I haven?t seen any other posts on this, so thought I?d pass along my best wishes and sincere thanks to the Elecraft folks, especially Wayne and Eric.  When you look at what they have accomplished in 20 years, it is mind-boggling (but fun) to speculate on what the next 20 years might bring.
> --Ed, N3CW?
> 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 15 10:23:38 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 07:23:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
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Surely you jest :)

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> On Oct 14, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Retirement? [:-)
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>> On 10/14/2018 12:03 PM, Ed G wrote:
>> When you look at what they have accomplished in 20 years, it is mind-boggling (but fun) to speculate on what the next 20 years might bring.
>> --Ed, N3CW?
>> 
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From anyone1545 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 10:24:46 2018
From: anyone1545 at gmail.com (Gmail)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 10:24:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Grounding
Message-ID: <F66A335B-633C-4950-BA15-228F02E670C5@gmail.com>

Braid is not recommended for grounding, especially outside. It  quickly corrodes, copper strap is better. 
Ray
W8LYJ 

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From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Oct 15 10:41:34 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 07:41:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
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Hi all,

in order to celebrate the 20th anniversary ... we should remind us quickly
the Elecraft history :)
https://plus.google.com/100312042524727617304/posts/Aetym2bVCji?hl=eng

I do not remember the Safari 4 but the rest of all rigs I know or even most
of them I have in shack.
Is there somebody who has "complete collection" on shelf?

Happy birthday Elecraft and thanks for services!







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From graziano at roccon.com  Mon Oct 15 10:57:56 2018
From: graziano at roccon.com (Graziano Roccon (IW2NOY))
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:57:56 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
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Hello,

if i am not wrong, now only the SST-40 is missing to my collection, all 
other RTX are present.
If anyone here have a lonely SST-40 and want make me happy to complete 
my collection, please let me know and we will find an arrangement.

I hope to find the time to take a picture of all the "family" ;-)

Happy birthday Elecraft and 100 years (and more) of success !

73's de iw2noy/w2noy
Italian proud Elecrafter


Il 2018-10-15 16:41 Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> 
> in order to celebrate the 20th anniversary ... we should remind us 
> quickly
> the Elecraft history :)
> https://plus.google.com/100312042524727617304/posts/Aetym2bVCji?hl=eng
> 
> I do not remember the Safari 4 but the rest of all rigs I know or even 
> most
> of them I have in shack.
> Is there somebody who has "complete collection" on shelf?
> 
> Happy birthday Elecraft and thanks for services!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Mon Oct 15 11:06:17 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred C. Jensen)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:06:17 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
Message-ID: <oq4k1i9l2sb55o4bprjytqlu.1539615977916@email.android.com>

I jest.

73,

Fred["Skip"] K6DGW

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>
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>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Retirement? [:-)
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>> On 10/14/2018 12:03 PM, Ed G wrote:
>>> When you look at what they have accomplished in 20 years, it is mind-boggling (but fun) to speculate on what the next 20 years might bring.
>>> --Ed, N3CW?
>>> 
>> 
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From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Oct 15 11:15:07 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:15:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <740c70e0a28d6be1b87799444e93883e@roccon.com>
References: <5bc3930e.1c69fb81.6088b.04cf@mx.google.com>
	<1539614494560-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<740c70e0a28d6be1b87799444e93883e@roccon.com>
Message-ID: <1539616507223-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Congrats for your Safari 4 and Koala rigs in collection if you have them!
SST should not be big problem to find some day...

Petr



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From rickw8zt at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 11:34:08 2018
From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:34:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Grounding
In-Reply-To: <F66A335B-633C-4950-BA15-228F02E670C5@gmail.com>
References: <F66A335B-633C-4950-BA15-228F02E670C5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALvs4h8mnNeZT6det3TBRqqymNDbikCOJ82eywGLt6HynBFCiw@mail.gmail.com>

I have used copper based Fel Pro anti seize to coat all my exposed ground
system. Comparing msds sheets with Noalox,aluminum and copper based, the
Fel Pro has much higher concentrations of copper and aluminum powder and
has the addition of zinc powder. And much less expensive. As with food, the
main ingredients are listed most to least. It will turn black and will not
wash off. Use caution when applying this as it has a tendency to jump on
your clothes,face,etc. ?

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:28 AM Gmail <anyone1545 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Braid is not recommended for grounding, especially outside. It  quickly
> corrodes, copper strap is better.
> Ray
> W8LYJ
>
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From psaffren at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 15 12:21:36 2018
From: psaffren at elecraft.com (n6hz)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:21:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Bar Cursor
In-Reply-To: <c0e45f42-29bc-b363-e0f0-4c377df6aa4b@gmail.com>
References: <c0e45f42-29bc-b363-e0f0-4c377df6aa4b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1539620496239-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Ed, 

Are there magenta and green arrows toward the bottom of the spectrum
display?  These indicate where the cursors are relative to your current
center frequency.   If  you are in fixed tune mode, you can easily re-center
your VFO A cursor by two consecutive long presses of the SPAN/CENTER button.  

If all else fails, a memory reset can be performed by holding down the MENU
button while powering up the P3.  Note that this will erase an function key
settings. 

73, 

Paul


Ed Gilliland wrote
> My P3 cursors have disappeared.? The menu selections are there but the 
> cursors do not appear when selected.? I have the latest P3 firmware
> loaded.
> 
> Ed W5TM
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From k5dwdon at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 16:20:00 2018
From: k5dwdon at gmail.com (Donald Wines)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:20:00 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KPXA100
Message-ID: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>

Before I take the leap and order from the mother ship does anyone have a
good used KXPA100 that is excess to their needs or are looking to upgrade?

If so, please contact me off list with price info.

Thanks for the BW,

From k5dwdon at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 16:22:47 2018
From: k5dwdon at gmail.com (Donald Wines)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:22:47 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KXPA100
Message-ID: <CAF0R8EB-yT7ROZWOChYjtQ1gCM8jzer4Kj2-smP17Rde+L1xUw@mail.gmail.com>

Oops. Fat fingered!

To Continue:  Thanks for the BW.

Don, K5DW
k5dwdon at gmail dot com

From eric at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 15 16:44:19 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:44:19 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Grounding
In-Reply-To: <CALvs4h8mnNeZT6det3TBRqqymNDbikCOJ82eywGLt6HynBFCiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F66A335B-633C-4950-BA15-228F02E670C5@gmail.com>
	<CALvs4h8mnNeZT6det3TBRqqymNDbikCOJ82eywGLt6HynBFCiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7d03bdb2-1adf-2578-e785-e6df84f3e559@elecraft.com>

Folks - lets end the current spate of grounding threads. We are well past the 
list posting number limit by a wide margin.

73,
Eric
Moderator etc.
/elecraft.com/

On 10/15/2018 8:34 AM, Rick Robinson wrote:
> I have used copper based Fel Pro anti seize to coat all my exposed ground
> system.
...

From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 16:46:29 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:46:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1
Message-ID: <9D983B03-540A-491D-91EE-7DEC475ABFE2@gmail.com>

My shiny new AX1 and accessories arrived today.  Really nice package, and very well done.  Won?t have time today, but I?m planning a nice morning tomorrow down at the dock with my KX3  to try it out.

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342


From turnbull at net1.ie  Mon Oct 15 17:16:52 2018
From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:16:52 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA 1500 CE approval?
In-Reply-To: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <167D645D48FB4E4CB8CAAF972BCA4A1E@DougTPC>

Dear Elecraft OMs and YLs,
     Is there any progress in obtaining CE permission for the KPA1500.    I
hope to purchase one but understand you can not even ship to European
private orders without this approval.    I called five weeks ago and
approval seemed imminent then but no word since.

               73 Doug EI2CN


From kb3ils at comcast.net  Tue Oct 16 04:56:35 2018
From: kb3ils at comcast.net (Keith Thomas)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 04:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] Re(3): dxlab
Message-ID: <662618525.9960.1539680195513@connect.xfinity.com>

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Hello! I have something really wonderful for you!

__________
16.10.2018 4:56:26

With Purefit KETO my mood improved. Out of an alley on our right. Come into th? hall. I shall be at my surgery until ten a.

I have something really wonderful for you! i started and never looked back
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From a.durbin at msn.com  Tue Oct 16 09:52:17 2018
From: a.durbin at msn.com (ANDY DURBIN)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:52:17 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <MW2PR16MB2362932847E6C5E9719CA92D8CFE0@MW2PR16MB2362.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

I found this quite annoying too.  My approach was to try to understand how the Z bracket temperature varied relative to the heat sink temperature.  I placed a thermistor on the front end of the Z bracket and another on the heat sink fin closest to the Z bracket.  I logged the standard PA temperature and these additional thermistor temperatures for every transmission I made (still do).   I established baseline temperature characteristics and planned to use this data to see if any mods I made changed the characteristics.


Surprise!  -  When I though I had enough data to move on to the next step in the investigation it stopped clicking.


Adding the thermistors only required removal of the front panel and the Z bracket screws were no touched.   It continued to click after the thermistors were added and then stopped a few weeks later.


The data show the rapid change in temperature is at the PA sensor only.  The heat sink and Z bracket change much more slowly and never have a large temperature difference.  Their temperatures do cross over though.


One problem with temperature logging is that I had no data, except for my test notes , on the clicks themselves.  I had planned to added some inexpensive sound detection modules and add this data to the logger.  That's on hold until the clicks come back.


It's really nice not to have the amp click continuously on every FT8 transmission.  I wish I knew what fixed it.


73,

Andy k3wyc

From dm4im at t-online.de  Tue Oct 16 10:07:55 2018
From: dm4im at t-online.de (Martin)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:07:55 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 2878 no rx (sort of)
Message-ID: <a11b91ad-d052-7d35-8acc-71976840234e@t-online.de>

Elecrafters,
after a long qso on uhf i returned to my muted K3 (soon to be 10 years 
old) , cranked up the volume and heard...zzzzzzz.

No audio from the speaker or headphone. RX was ok, i could see signals 
on the LP-Pan ,TX ok, power out ok. Power cycle didn't help.

A slap on the cover imediatelly restored rx/audio to normal level. What 
problem am i experiencing here? Is ist the front panel pin header?

-- 

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM

From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Oct 16 11:55:32 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:55:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Re(3): dxlab
In-Reply-To: <662618525.9960.1539680195513@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <662618525.9960.1539680195513@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <568d90d6-5cd1-97ec-c1f6-a24eafde4c5a@elecraft.com>

Do not click on the possibly dangerous link from this spam that was sent to the 
Elecraft list.

Apparently the spam sender is spoofing KB3ILS's email address, or has hacked his 
email program.

We have temporarily put the kb3ils at comcast.net email address in list moderation 
mode to prevent further spam.

Please,? no list comments on this. Email the moderator if needed.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/16/2018 1:56 AM, Keith Thomas wrote:
> http:// <snip>
>
> Hello! I have something really wonderful for you!
>
> __________
> 16.10.2018 4:56:26
>
> With Purefit KETO my mood improved. ....


From Tbry441 at myfairpoint.net  Tue Oct 16 11:59:56 2018
From: Tbry441 at myfairpoint.net (Thaire Bryant)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:59:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AX-1
Message-ID: <B3EF8C8B-E0CC-4A83-93F2-C0D7826F9EA1@myfairpoint.net>

I received my new AX-1 yesterday at noon at the post office in New Hampshire.  By 1:30 (1700 UTC) I had it set up on a 4? tripod on the deck, the counterpoise attached to the KX3 and with 10 watts worked LZ and HA on 20 M CW!

Wayne, thank you!  This will be my new SOTA antenna.

Thaire. W2APF

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct 16 12:02:23 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:02:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Short whip operating tips
Message-ID: <48FE265C-B59C-42F8-813E-D21148973CA3@elecraft.com>

Having operated pedestrian mobile many times, I?d like to offer a few suggestions for those new to the use of short whips (like the AX1). These and other tips appear in the AX1 manual. 

* Elevate the antenna whenever possible. For example, if you?re using a KX2, HT-style, your transmitted signal will almost always be stronger if you?re standing rather than sitting on the ground. (Exception: sitting on the edge of a cliff is probably just as good as standing. Don?t do anything risky :)

* Initially, try to find strong stations to call (S7 or higher), especially when using SSB. High signal strength at your end is often indicative of good propagation and/or that the station is using a gain antenna. 

* Try the higher-frequency bands first. 17 meters in particular is an outstanding QRP band. When I call strong stations on this band using 10 W SSB and the AX1, my success rate is something like 80%.

* ALWAYS use a counterpoise wire (one is supplied with the AX1). Otherwise your transmitted signal will be down as much as 20 dB.

* If you use the AX1 with the AXT1 tripod adapter, use a short length of coax, especially on 17 and 15 m were the rig?s ATU is required to achieve resonance.

Happy hiking? 

Wayne
N6KR

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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct 16 12:07:12 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:07:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX-1
In-Reply-To: <B3EF8C8B-E0CC-4A83-93F2-C0D7826F9EA1@myfairpoint.net>
References: <B3EF8C8B-E0CC-4A83-93F2-C0D7826F9EA1@myfairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <6E735865-4032-4F86-ADAE-392DED84C48A@elecraft.com>

Thanks for the report, Thaire. 

As we recommend in the AX1 owners manual, it?s a good idea to also bring along wire for a tree-based antenna for times when conditions are very poor, and/or you have more time to set up.

Have fun!

Wayne
N6KR

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> On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Thaire Bryant <Tbry441 at myfairpoint.net> wrote:
> 
> I received my new AX-1 yesterday at noon at the post office in New Hampshire.  By 1:30 (1700 UTC) I had it set up on a 4? tripod on the deck, the counterpoise attached to the KX3 and with 10 watts worked LZ and HA on 20 M CW!
> 
> Wayne, thank you!  This will be my new SOTA antenna.
> 
> Thaire. W2APF
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From n8vz at qth.com  Tue Oct 16 12:50:17 2018
From: n8vz at qth.com (=?utf-8?Q?Carl_J=C3=B3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:50:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Short whip operating tips
In-Reply-To: <48FE265C-B59C-42F8-813E-D21148973CA3@elecraft.com>
References: <48FE265C-B59C-42F8-813E-D21148973CA3@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <07F019CF-264F-4BD1-B4F9-3A8ADB36ECE1@qth.com>

How are folks ordering this antenna?  The web site says ?coming soon? with no place to order it now.  I signed up at Dayton for the advanced notice list, but never got notified.  Are these early orders coming from that list?

73,

Carl

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 16, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] <KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Having operated pedestrian mobile many times, I?d like to offer a few suggestions for those new to the use of short whips (like the AX1). These and other tips appear in the AX1 manual. 
> 
> * Elevate the antenna whenever possible. For example, if you?re using a KX2, HT-style, your transmitted signal will almost always be stronger if you?re standing rather than sitting on the ground. (Exception: sitting on the edge of a cliff is probably just as good as standing. Don?t do anything risky :)
> 
> * Initially, try to find strong stations to call (S7 or higher), especially when using SSB. High signal strength at your end is often indicative of good propagation and/or that the station is using a gain antenna. 
> 
> * Try the higher-frequency bands first. 17 meters in particular is an outstanding QRP band. When I call strong stations on this band using 10 W SSB and the AX1, my success rate is something like 80%.
> 
> * ALWAYS use a counterpoise wire (one is supplied with the AX1). Otherwise your transmitted signal will be down as much as 20 dB.
> 
> * If you use the AX1 with the AXT1 tripod adapter, use a short length of coax, especially on 17 and 15 m were the rig?s ATU is required to achieve resonance.
> 
> Happy hiking? 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 16 16:56:36 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:56:36 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR16MB2362932847E6C5E9719CA92D8CFE0@MW2PR16MB2362.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MW2PR16MB2362932847E6C5E9719CA92D8CFE0@MW2PR16MB2362.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <587ff343-1f59-dbb2-c080-a2112edf8f91@blomand.net>

I've tried to determine where the clicks originate without success.? 
I've loosened screws on the top and right side and tightened screws on 
the top and right side.? No difference. Perhaps someone at Elecraft will 
add a comment in this regard.

I did observe that the 5 screws at the center of the top cover are 
longer than the others.?? I'm really at a loss as to the somewhat 
annoying Rice Krispies Snap Crackle and Pop. ?? Still love the amp in 
all other aspects.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/16/2018 8:52 AM, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
> I found this quite annoying too.  My approach was to try to understand how the Z bracket temperature varied relative to the heat sink temperature.  I placed a thermistor on the front end of the Z bracket and another on the heat sink fin closest to the Z bracket.  I logged the standard PA temperature and these additional thermistor temperatures for every transmission I made (still do).   I established baseline temperature characteristics and planned to use this data to see if any mods I made changed the characteristics.
>
>
> Surprise!  -  When I though I had enough data to move on to the next step in the investigation it stopped clicking.
>
>
> Adding the thermistors only required removal of the front panel and the Z bracket screws were no touched.   It continued to click after the thermistors were added and then stopped a few weeks later.
>
>
> The data show the rapid change in temperature is at the PA sensor only.  The heat sink and Z bracket change much more slowly and never have a large temperature difference.  Their temperatures do cross over though.
>
>
> One problem with temperature logging is that I had no data, except for my test notes , on the clicks themselves.  I had planned to added some inexpensive sound detection modules and add this data to the logger.  That's on hold until the clicks come back.
>
>
> It's really nice not to have the amp click continuously on every FT8 transmission.  I wish I knew what fixed it.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Andy k3wyc
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From dennis at mail4life.net  Tue Oct 16 17:13:55 2018
From: dennis at mail4life.net (Dennis Moore)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
References: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>

I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
> the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
> receive?? I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
> bracket with 4-40 x 1/4". ?? Any traction to this?
>
> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.? The clicks and pops are more 
> annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> KPA500 s/n 3519 


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 16 17:21:49 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:21:49 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
References: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
	<0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
Message-ID: <83a5194e-0c41-8807-2c0d-9ede4e5ca431@blomand.net>

Mine is a KPA500-F s/n 3519 thus it is factory assembled.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/16/2018 4:13 PM, Dennis Moore wrote:
> I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
> those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
> assembled units?
>
> Dennis NJ6G
>
>
> On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
>> the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
>> receive?? I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
>> bracket with 4-40 x 1/4". ?? Any traction to this?
>>
>> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.? The clicks and pops are more 
>> annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> KPA500 s/n 3519 
>
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From k9yeq at live.com  Tue Oct 16 17:31:05 2018
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 21:31:05 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
References: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
	<0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
Message-ID: <SN6PR05MB428894E9A8DE3E2410A6C45D9CFE0@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

I did a FT on the device and never an issue.  Building requires a bit of electro mechanical skills that some do not have.  When I read the issues, I wonder about how it was built or modified.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Dennis Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:14 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
> the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
> receive?? I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
> bracket with 4-40 x 1/4". ?? Any traction to this?
>
> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.? The clicks and pops are more 
> annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> KPA500 s/n 3519

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From k9ztv at socket.net  Tue Oct 16 17:31:08 2018
From: k9ztv at socket.net (KENT TRIMBLE)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:31:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
References: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
	<0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
Message-ID: <5cb8d4a5-cf07-aaae-760b-6a1e4ed2b1f5@socket.net>

Mine was a kit (sn 267) and I've never heard any noises from it whatever.

Kent? K9ZTV



On 10/16/2018 4:13 PM, Dennis Moore wrote:
> I wonder if those with the kit experience more noise than those with 
> factory assembled units?
>



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From ab4iq at comcast.net  Tue Oct 16 17:34:15 2018
From: ab4iq at comcast.net (AB4IQ)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:34:15 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
References: <999f710d-a83c-2f2a-8ee7-9988b2bbdde8@blomand.net>
	<0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab@mail4life.net>
Message-ID: <00af01d46597$fd147370$f73d5a50$@comcast.net>

Mine was a kit and does the same thing.  Sort of like Railroad Welded Rail,  in the summer it expands and shrinks in the winter.  We had the same issue with #6 solid copper on the communications lines.  It only does it on the KPA500 when I do a lot of RTTY or FT8.  Very seldom on SSB or CW.

ED..AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:14 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory assembled units?

Dennis NJ6G


On 10/14/2018 19:52, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> What is the recommended solution to stopping the clicks and pops from 
> the KPA500 as the amp heats during transmission and cools during 
> receive?  I've seen one that suggested replacing the screws in the Z 
> bracket with 4-40 x 1/4".    Any traction to this?
>
> The amp performs absolutely fantastic.  The clicks and pops are more 
> annoying when working high duty cycle modes.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> KPA500 s/n 3519

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From w4das at comcast.net  Tue Oct 16 17:44:33 2018
From: w4das at comcast.net (Doug Shields)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:44:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 wattmeter for sale
Message-ID: <002e01d46599$6d8177b0$48846710$@net>

Hello everyone,

      I have an excellent condition Elecraft W2 wattmeter for sale.  It has
the 200 watt HF +6 meter coupler.  I will include the coupler cable, RS-232
data cable, 12V DC power cable with powerpole connector installed, and the
original owner's manual.  There are no issues with the meter.  $250 shipped
and insured to any US destination.  I can accept payments through Paypal,
cash, check, or money order.

 

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From edauer at law.du.edu  Tue Oct 16 17:52:45 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 21:52:45 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <A306D545-1C70-4207-B46B-50D8520D2EF6@law.du.edu>

 
I've not experienced the problem with kit-built S/N 0651.  But then, I have never used it on high duty cycle data modes.

Ted, KN1CBR
    
    
    
    ------------------------------
    
    Message: 25
    Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
    From: Dennis Moore <dennis at mail4life.net>
    To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
    Message-ID: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab at mail4life.net>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
    
    I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
    those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
    assembled units?
    
    Dennis NJ6G
    
 


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Oct 16 17:55:20 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:55:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <587ff343-1f59-dbb2-c080-a2112edf8f91@blomand.net>
References: <MW2PR16MB2362932847E6C5E9719CA92D8CFE0@MW2PR16MB2362.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
	<587ff343-1f59-dbb2-c080-a2112edf8f91@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <d59e5237-b07d-cd8c-eef7-f327895aa320@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/16/2018 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> I've tried to determine where the clicks originate without success. 

This is a much discussed issue. Check the archive. Call or email 
Elecraft if you want to know more.

73, Jim K9YC


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 16 17:59:15 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <A306D545-1C70-4207-B46B-50D8520D2EF6@law.du.edu>
References: <A306D545-1C70-4207-B46B-50D8520D2EF6@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8@blomand.net>

I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB or CW modes. 

I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue 

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather negatively on the point.  

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've not experienced the problem with kit-built S/N 0651.  But then, I have never used it on high duty cycle data modes.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> 
>    ------------------------------
> 
>    Message: 25
>    Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
>    From: Dennis Moore <dennis at mail4life.net>
>    To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
>    Message-ID: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab at mail4life.net>
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>    I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if 
>    those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory 
>    assembled units?
> 
>    Dennis NJ6G
> 
> 
> 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Tue Oct 16 18:20:31 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:20:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8@blomand.net>
References: <A306D545-1C70-4207-B46B-50D8520D2EF6@law.du.edu>
	<E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <2756f103-27b1-e7fa-2364-2a65d85ad10d@embarqmail.com>

All,

If you can figure out how to keep the relatively thin "Z" panel from 
expanding and contracting as it is heated and cooled, you will have a 
solution to the problem.

It reminds me of my childhood days living with a coal furnace.  The 
furnace had an inner cast iron furnace surrounded by a sheet metal shell 
as the air plenum.
It was comforting on a cold winter's morning to hear that sheet metal 
expanding because that was the 1st indication that warm air was coming.

It was my job to shake down the ashes, put coal in and stoke up the fire 
in the mornings.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2018 5:59 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB or CW modes.
> 
> I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue
> 
> Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather negatively on the point.
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've not experienced the problem with kit-built S/N 0651.  But then, I have never used it on high duty cycle data modes.
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------
>>
>>     Message: 25
>>     Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:13:55 -0700
>>     From: Dennis Moore <dennis at mail4life.net>
>>     To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>     Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
>>     Message-ID: <0497f5c1-6e76-75be-53c4-4acf668d97ab at mail4life.net>
>>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>>     I rarely hear anything from my KPA500-F. Serious question, I wonder if
>>     those with the kit experience more noise than those with factory
>>     assembled units?
>>
>>     Dennis NJ6G
>>
>>
>>
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From a.durbin at msn.com  Tue Oct 16 19:56:11 2018
From: a.durbin at msn.com (ANDY DURBIN)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 23:56:11 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <MW2PR16MB23626E33E0FABB0132B5533A8CFE0@MW2PR16MB2362.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

"If you can figure out how to keep the relatively thin "Z" panel from expanding and contracting as it is heated and cooled, you will have a solution to the problem."


If the Z bracket really is the source of the noise, and I'm not yet convinced it is, then there is no need to stop it expanding and contracting. All that is needed is to change the mechanical interface between the Z bracket and whatever is binding and releasing to cause the clicks.


My plan was to put thin Mylar sheet between the Z bracket and the parts to which it is attached. I was going to start with the Z bracket to heat sink interface. I was not willing to do that until I had characterized the Z bracket temperature dynamics and understood the heat flow between the Z bracket and the heat sink. I have the data but no longer have the clicks.


73,

Andy k3wyc

From paul at paulbaldock.com  Tue Oct 16 22:35:02 2018
From: paul at paulbaldock.com (Paul Baldock)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:35:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure
In-Reply-To: <167D645D48FB4E4CB8CAAF972BCA4A1E@DougTPC>
References: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<167D645D48FB4E4CB8CAAF972BCA4A1E@DougTPC>
Message-ID: <5bc69fd9.1c69fb81.e65fd.250e@mx.google.com>

A friend of mine's KPA-1500 has just failed. It behaves like half the 
PA has died, with max output power about 900W, and requiring 
excessive drive to get that. He has calls in to service but no 
response yet. Has anybody experienced such a failure?

Thanks

- Paul  KW7Y


From ebasilier at cox.net  Wed Oct 17 01:24:15 2018
From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:24:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500
Message-ID: <023f01d465d9$a718b570$f54a2050$@cox.net>

The KPA1500 is right now outside my budget, but there is nothing wrong with
dreaming and planning, right? The latest QST reviews the new Palstar amp,
which first seemed attractive, but I soon noticed that its continuous
carrier capacity is no better than the KPA500. Also, when you add the price
of the matching tuner, you are looking at a total price of $5k, which makes
the full legal power KPA1500 with included tuner look good at $6k. However,
what does dampen my enthusiasm is that the KPA1500 tuner handles swr only up
to 3:1 at full power. My main 40m antenna meets that requirement over a
significant portion of the band, but at band edges swr can be 4.5:1 or so.
The lower bands are where high power is most commonly needed, so it doesn't
make much sense to upgrade from my KPA500 only to have to throttle back to
500W on 40m. That begs the question exactly how much power the KPA1500 tuner
can handle on 40m. Also, it would be desirable to use higher power on the
portion of the band where swr does stay under 3:1. I could set the power to
a lower value on the K3 for 40m, but it would be helpful to be able to set
the power separately for different band segments. The actual power limit at
a higher swr probably depends on the actual impedance presented to the
tuner, and not just the swr value. One could perhaps use an antenna analyzer
to measure the complex impedance at different frequencies within the band,
and then program different drive power levels for the corresponding band
segments (if that capability were implemented). Maybe a future tuner design
could incorporate sensing of complex load impedance and signal the
transceiver to limit drive power accordingly. Or, instead of basing it on
load impedance, the design could directly measure voltages and currents
within the tuner to prevent excessive voltages and currents from being
produced (not dynamically a la ALC, but as a calibration using steady
carrier). 

73,
Erik K7TV


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Wed Oct 17 01:58:27 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:58:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500
In-Reply-To: <023f01d465d9$a718b570$f54a2050$@cox.net>
References: <023f01d465d9$a718b570$f54a2050$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4d842034-589f-2f54-602d-6c98da7c5a31@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/16/2018 10:24 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:
> My main 40m antenna meets that requirement over a
> significant portion of the band, but at band edges swr can be 4.5:1 or so.

Hmmm. 40M is not very wide (only 4.2%, as compared to 80M which is 
14.3%). What kind of antenna is it? Simple antennas without traps or 
loading coils like resonant dipoles and verticals typically cover 40M 
with SWR below 2:1 if tuned to the center of the band.

80M is the tough one, but can be tamed with some transmission line and 
or stub tricks.

73, Jim K9YC


From ebasilier at cox.net  Wed Oct 17 03:48:31 2018
From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 00:48:31 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500
In-Reply-To: <4d842034-589f-2f54-602d-6c98da7c5a31@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <023f01d465d9$a718b570$f54a2050$@cox.net>
	<4d842034-589f-2f54-602d-6c98da7c5a31@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <024601d465ed$ccb31550$66193ff0$@cox.net>

Jim, my antenna is somewhat unusual. It is a Sommer XP-708, where the
hardware added to enable 40m is very minimal: just a coil hooked up between
two points on an antenna whose dimensions say "20m and up". Given that each
antenna element is appropriate for 20m or shorter wavelength, and the boom
is no longer than the elements, the narrow bandwidth on 40  is not
surprising. Also, the antenna has no directivity at all on 40. One might
wonder if this antenna might be a compromise in other respects, but the
performance in actual use has always been a positive surprise to me. For the
cost of adding 40m to the basic design, I would say that it is a great
value. 

73,
Erik K7TV

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:58 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

On 10/16/2018 10:24 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:
> My main 40m antenna meets that requirement over a significant portion 
> of the band, but at band edges swr can be 4.5:1 or so.

Hmmm. 40M is not very wide (only 4.2%, as compared to 80M which is 14.3%).
What kind of antenna is it? Simple antennas without traps or loading coils
like resonant dipoles and verticals typically cover 40M with SWR below 2:1
if tuned to the center of the band.

80M is the tough one, but can be tamed with some transmission line and or
stub tricks.

73, Jim K9YC

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From n6tv at arrl.net  Wed Oct 17 05:26:07 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 02:26:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] What is the TX DLY of a KX3?
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGL3dSE3kXHuz=d5GGwbsUUPfB7MTNEyJz2EmZ-J6sgM8w@mail.gmail.com>

What is the fixed delay between KEY OUT going low and RF coming out of a
KX3?  The K3 has a CONFIG:TX DLY setting, but I find no equivalent in the
KX3 manuals.  The concern would be RF hot switching if the external
amplifier relay is too slow.

>From the KX3 manual:

"The keyline output goes low during transmit, and can be used for
transmit/receive switching of linear amplifiers and transverters."  The TX
Delay does not appear to be documented.

(KEY OUT on a KX3 is the RING contact of the 2.5 mm stereo connector
labeled ACC2).

73,
Bob, N6TV

From k8rgm at comcast.net  Wed Oct 17 07:54:45 2018
From: k8rgm at comcast.net (ROBERT MUELLER)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:54:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure
In-Reply-To: <5bc69fd9.1c69fb81.e65fd.250e@mx.google.com>
References: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<167D645D48FB4E4CB8CAAF972BCA4A1E@DougTPC>
	<5bc69fd9.1c69fb81.e65fd.250e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <1088212911.295898.1539777285589@connect.xfinity.com>

I have the same problem. I thought it was in the software I am using (HRD, FT8, JTAlerX). Perhaps not.
I have to but in 100 watts from the K3S to get about 900 watts out.

> On October 16, 2018 at 10:35 PM Paul Baldock <paul at paulbaldock.com mailto:paul at paulbaldock.com > wrote:
> 
> 
>     A friend of mine's KPA-1500 has just failed. It behaves like half the
>     PA has died, with max output power about 900W, and requiring
>     excessive drive to get that. He has calls in to service but no
>     response yet. Has anybody experienced such a failure?
> 
>     Thanks
>         * Paul KW7Y
> 
> 
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From n7wy at rocketmail.com  Wed Oct 17 10:45:47 2018
From: n7wy at rocketmail.com (n7wy at rocketmail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:45:47 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] =?utf-8?q?KPA1500_not_amplifying?=
Message-ID: <mailman.78.1539787885.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

I used my K3S driving my KPA1500 on Saturday during Makrothen and state QSO parties with no issues.  I have the integration cable and RG-8X for the RF path.


Sunday AM with the K3S set to 22 W, the KPA1500 was outputting 22 W more or less, not the 750 W I expected and got the day before.

With the K3S set to 11.5 W, the KPA1500 produced about 400 W out.

With the K3S set at 100 W, and the KPA1500 in STBY, the KPA1500 power meter read 100 W more or less.


Later in the day the situation self-healed, but the healing did not last.


Trouble shooting ideas ?  The recent KPA1500 manual troubleshooting section suggests the obvious stuff which is irrelevant.


N7WY - Bob R

From no9e at arrl.net  Wed Oct 17 10:58:57 2018
From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:58:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500
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The low range tuners up to 3:1 are very low loss and then can be made
reliable. High range tuner for 1.5KW would be less so. 

You may buy MFJ-998 as an extra. I use MFJ-998 with 1.5 KW and a
ladderline-fed dipole for a few years. Only small problems like burnt diode
in SWR circuit or smoked capacitor by the output connector. But it is better
to have such problems outside of the amp.

Another choice is to have an AB switch where the same antenna is connected
to A directly and to B via  capacitor that lowers the SWR where otherwise it
is too high. 


Ignacy, NO9E



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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 11:29:54 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 08:29:54 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 not amplifying
In-Reply-To: <20181017145212.00750149B143@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20181017145212.00750149B143@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1b34f198-0755-dfc0-4b3b-025270c53504@elecraft.com>

Hi Bob - I just saw your post below.

Please contact support at elecraft.com immediately and we'll help you figure out 
what is happening. Using the KPA1500 utility to download and sending us your 
KPA1500 config file is always required in cases like this and it will also help 
us quickly diagnose what's up. (that file contains the full amp setup and fault 
log history.) Hopefully, this may just be a cockpit error.

Also, NEVER drive the KPA1500 at 100W! That is well in excess of its fault level 
and can damage the amp. Our normal max input drive level is about 61 W or so if 
I recall correctly.? Above that point the 1500 automatically lights the yellow 
OVR light and switches on a -3 dB input attenuator. After continuous slight 
drive for 10-20 secs at above this max drive level the amp will then hard fault 
into standby. Never increase drive when the OVR light is on - that will only 
increase the risk of damaging the amp.

OVR and the 3 dB attenuator will activate for overdrive, high reflected power, 
high PA current etc. When it lights, that is a message to reduce drive and 
correct the problem. Once the drive is reduced, after several seconds the OVR 
light and input attenuator will turn back off.

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/17/2018 7:45 AM, Bob Rennard via Elecraft wrote:
> I used my K3S driving my KPA1500 on Saturday during Makrothen and state QSO parties with no issues.  I have the integration cable and RG-8X for the RF path.
>
>
> Sunday AM with the K3S set to 22 W, the KPA1500 was outputting 22 W more or less, not the 750 W I expected and got the day before.
>
> With the K3S set to 11.5 W, the KPA1500 produced about 400 W out.
>
> With the K3S set at 100 W, and the KPA1500 in STBY, the KPA1500 power meter read 100 W more or less.
>
>
> Later in the day the situation self-healed, but the healing did not last.
>
>
> Trouble shooting ideas ?  The recent KPA1500 manual troubleshooting section suggests the obvious stuff which is irrelevant.
>
>
> N7WY - Bob R
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 11:33:44 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 08:33:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure
In-Reply-To: <5bc69fd9.1c69fb81.e65fd.250e@mx.google.com>
References: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<167D645D48FB4E4CB8CAAF972BCA4A1E@DougTPC>
	<5bc69fd9.1c69fb81.e65fd.250e@mx.google.com>
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Hi Paul,

Can you send me the contact info for your friend so we can help him?? (Or have 
him contact support at elecraft.com immediately.)

Using the KPA1500 utility to download and sending us your KPA1500 config file is 
always required in cases like this and it will also help us quickly diagnose 
what's up. (That file contains the full amp setup and fault log history.) 
Hopefully, this may just be a cockpit error. (Overdrive activates the 3 dB input 
attenuator.)

Also, NEVER drive the KPA1500 at 100W! That is well in excess of its fault level 
and can damage the amp. Our normal max input drive level is about 61 W or so if 
I recall correctly.? Above that point the 1500 automatically lights the yellow 
OVR light and switches on a -3 dB input attenuator. After continuous slight 
drive for 10-20 secs at above this max drive level the amp will then hard fault 
into standby. Never increase drive when the OVR light is on - that will only 
increase the risk of damaging the amp.

OVR and the 3 dB attenuator will activate for overdrive, high reflected power, 
high PA current etc. When it lights, that is a message to REDUCE DRIVE and 
correct the problem. Once the drive is reduced, after several seconds the OVR 
light and input attenuator will turn back off.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/16/2018 7:35 PM, Paul Baldock wrote:
> A friend of mine's KPA-1500 has just failed. It behaves like half the PA has 
> died, with max output power about 900W, and requiring excessive drive to get 
> that. He has calls in to service but no response yet. Has anybody experienced 
> such a failure?
>
> Thanks
>
> - Paul? KW7Y
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 11:39:02 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 08:39:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure
In-Reply-To: <1088212911.295898.1539777285589@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAF0R8EDn3jkiyKn32mJ9tAL++S=G16cU4D1JDOw5t0Frk=R_JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<167D645D48FB4E4CB8CAAF972BCA4A1E@DougTPC>
	<5bc69fd9.1c69fb81.e65fd.250e@mx.google.com>
	<1088212911.295898.1539777285589@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <5ba31a8a-a95d-4ad1-69b5-6a4793369971@elecraft.com>

Hi Robert,

Please contact support at elecraft.com immediately so we can help you.

Using the KPA1500 utility to download and sending us your KPA1500 config file is 
always required in cases like this and it will also help us quickly diagnose 
what's up. (That file contains the full amp setup and fault log history.) 
Hopefully, this may just be a cockpit error. (Overdrive activates the 3 dB input 
attenuator.)

Also, NEVER drive the KPA1500 at 100W! That is well in excess of its fault level 
and can damage the amp. Our normal max input drive level is about 61 W or so if 
I recall correctly.

Above that point the 1500 automatically lights the yellow OVR light and switches 
on a -3 dB input attenuator. After continuous drive for 10-20 secs at just above 
this max drive level the amp will then hard fault into standby. Never increase 
drive when the OVR light is on - that will only increase the risk of damaging 
the amp.

OVR and the 3 dB attenuator will activate for overdrive, high reflected power, 
high PA current etc. When it lights, that is a message to REDUCE DRIVE and 
correct the problem. Once the drive is reduced, after several seconds the OVR 
light and input attenuator will turn back off.

Please, -never- increase drive power when the OVR light is on or blinking.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com

(Note - To make sure everyone gets this info, I've send substantially the same 
email via the list to the three of you who have posted on this topic this morning.)
/
On 10/17/2018 4:54 AM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:
> I have the same problem. I thought it was in the software I am using (HRD, FT8, JTAlerX). Perhaps not.
> I have to but in 100 watts from the K3S to get about 900 watts out.
>


From ebasilier at cox.net  Wed Oct 17 12:21:15 2018
From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:21:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500
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	<1539788337988-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
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Ignacy, for many years I was using a legal limit tube amp in combination
with a manual tuner. For 20m and up, where the antenna has low swr and broad
bandwidth, I would put the tuner in bypass position. For 40m the tuner would
be active and I would manually adjust it, which didn't happen very often as
I would mostly stay in the cw portion of the band. The amp could perhaps
have handled the swr on 40m without a tuner, but I used the external tuner
so I could tune up the amp on a dummy load rather than on the air. Over the
years I did occasionally forget to switch the tuner into or out of bypass
when going to a different band. So, manual switching rather than manual
tuning was a bit of a problem. Now used to the KPA500/KAT500, I am spoiled
and don't want to go back to having to remember to switch. I was hoping that
the KPA1500 would not have the tuner built in, but I can see how most users
save money with a built-in tuner. When I said my antenna swr can be up to
4.5, I quoted the worst case I can remember. The 40m coil is copper clamped
onto aluminum elements. When I installed the antenna in 1993 I didn't apply
compound to keep the joints healthy. Over the years, when I have been
inactive for a long period such as a year, I have noticed the higher swr
values that I quoted. Some operation at high power has then restored band
edge swr readings to somewhat lower values, such as 4:1. If I recall
correctly, those readings were well under 4:1 when the antenna was newly
installed.  I intend to service the antenna some day and get back to those
better swr readings, but accessing the antenna for service is for me a big
and difficult undertaking. With the prospect of getting somewhat close to
the 3:1 limit,  I am very interested in detailed derating numbers for the
KPA1500 tuner, as well as any information that might indicate that it can
safely handle somewhat higher swr depending on the actual complex load
impedance..

73,
Erik K7TV

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Ignacy
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

The low range tuners up to 3:1 are very low loss and then can be made
reliable. High range tuner for 1.5KW would be less so. 

You may buy MFJ-998 as an extra. I use MFJ-998 with 1.5 KW and a
ladderline-fed dipole for a few years. Only small problems like burnt diode
in SWR circuit or smoked capacitor by the output connector. But it is better
to have such problems outside of the amp.

Another choice is to have an AB switch where the same antenna is connected
to A directly and to B via  capacitor that lowers the SWR where otherwise it
is too high. 


Ignacy, NO9E




From w5tm001 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 13:02:35 2018
From: w5tm001 at gmail.com (Ed gilliland)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:02:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Cursors
Message-ID: <1cc91453-c059-91d2-e8b9-6281e575cc7a@gmail.com>

Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:21:36 -0700 (MST)
From: n6hz<psaffren at elecraft.com>
To:elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Bar Cursor
Message-ID:<1539620496239-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Ed,

Are there magenta and green arrows toward the bottom of the spectrum display?

>>>yes

These indicate where the cursors are relative to your current center frequency. 	

>>>Understood

If  you are in fixed tune mode, you can easily re-center your VFO A cursor by two consecutive long presses of the SPAN/CENTER button.

>>>In Fixed Tune Mode, two consecutive long presses of the SPAN/CENTER button didn't help.  Green and Magenta arrows are still at the bottom left of the display	
										
If all else fails, a memory reset can be performed by holding down the MENU
button while powering up the P3.  Note that this will erase an function key
settings.

>>>I did a memory reset.  The green and magenta arrows are still at the bottom left of the display.
>>>I reloaded all firmware with the latest versions.  The Green and Magenta arrows are still at the bottom left of the display.

>>>The P3 seems to be working with the exception of the U and BAR cursors.

Ed


From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 13:43:07 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 10:43:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Remote Software
Message-ID: <a2f30e2e-8a78-3a65-f61f-354b1889b7e5@gmail.com>

I'm reading in the Elecraft newsletter that the KPA1500 remote software 
v1.22 is available now.

I'm not seeing any links.

Is Firefox being stupid again with cache or is it not there?

73,
Rick nhc


From rthorne at rthorne.net  Wed Oct 17 14:02:37 2018
From: rthorne at rthorne.net (Richard Thorne)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:02:37 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Remote Software
In-Reply-To: <a2f30e2e-8a78-3a65-f61f-354b1889b7e5@gmail.com>
References: <a2f30e2e-8a78-3a65-f61f-354b1889b7e5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aa1dacdb-ff1c-49a8-6ef3-f5f2756c50af@rthorne.net>

I use Firefox and I was able to get to 1.22

 From the main web site:

 ??? - click on Firmware & S/W
 ??? - click on Logging and Remote Control Software for the .......
 ??? - scroll down to KPA1500, KPA500, KAT500 Remote Software


Rich - N5ZC


On 10/17/2018 12:43 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> I'm reading in the Elecraft newsletter that the KPA1500 remote 
> software v1.22 is available now.
>
> I'm not seeing any links.
>
> Is Firefox being stupid again with cache or is it not there?
>
> 73,
> Rick nhc
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 14:03:36 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:03:36 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and accessories
Message-ID: <162301C4-D67C-4BE1-AA5B-89D77A4D9FB9@elecraft.com>

Hi gang,

Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests. (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)

We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can find full details and ordering information here:

    http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm

Executive summary:  

The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6" (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3, which both have wide-range internal ATU options.

The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm of your hand.

In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories. 

First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top operation with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a right-angle BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from rotating in light to moderate wind. 

Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting hardware. 

In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It certainly has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and facilitates many outdoor adventures to come.

73,
Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ










From eckerpw at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 17 14:46:04 2018
From: eckerpw at yahoo.com (paul ecker)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio
References: <1954882712.11608197.1539801964722.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1954882712.11608197.1539801964722@mail.yahoo.com>

Problem: Not hearing any audio during transmit in digital modes.I have a K3, Win 10 PC, with microHam DKII interface.?When transmitting inRTTY, PSK31 or FT-8 I am not hearing any Tx audio, which I had been previously.? I first noticed this in RTTY when not hearingany diddles. But when using MMTTY ? the K3 goes to Tx , I am getting power out and Iam being seen on the RTTY RBN. In PSK31 using WinWabler and FT-8 using WSJT-X, Iam making successful QSO?s. I have gone thru the DK II manual setup pages for theseprograms and cannot find errors in my setup. Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem. Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong??
73Paulw2eck
?


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Oct 17 16:10:05 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:10:05 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio
In-Reply-To: <1954882712.11608197.1539801964722@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1954882712.11608197.1539801964722.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1954882712.11608197.1539801964722@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7ed187de-5987-9726-9646-01085985d006@blomand.net>

Check your MON level on your K3.?? I run mine about 8 for digital 
modes.? I know nothing about the MicroHam DKII.?? I just run the USB 
interface between the computer running the application software and the 
radio.??? I only use 3 software applications, WSJT-X, HRD or FLDIGI.? 
And with those, I run only one at a time. Logging is handled totally 
separate.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/17/2018 1:46 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote:
> Problem: Not hearing any audio during transmit in digital modes.I have a K3, Win 10 PC, with microHam DKII interface.?When transmitting inRTTY, PSK31 or FT-8 I am not hearing any Tx audio, which I had been previously.? I first noticed this in RTTY when not hearingany diddles. But when using MMTTY ? the K3 goes to Tx , I am getting power out and Iam being seen on the RTTY RBN. In PSK31 using WinWabler and FT-8 using WSJT-X, Iam making successful QSO?s. I have gone thru the DK II manual setup pages for theseprograms and cannot find errors in my setup. Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem. Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong?
> 73Paulw2eck
>   
>
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From cowchip at ca.rr.com  Wed Oct 17 16:11:23 2018
From: cowchip at ca.rr.com (Don Minkoff)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:11:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Talk on early wireless and Marconi
Message-ID: <906a47eb-b550-d097-5753-66389b9ca670@ca.rr.com>

I will be giving a talk on the Marconi Museum and early wireless at 
Pacificon, 11 AM.? Everyone is invited. Also, my 15 day traveling 
adventure in Italy with my KX2.

Don, NK6A



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From lists at subich.com  Wed Oct 17 16:19:29 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio
In-Reply-To: <1954882712.11608197.1539801964722@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1954882712.11608197.1539801964722.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1954882712.11608197.1539801964722@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <11734bc7-22a4-f999-890b-e5ae47435fe9@subich.com>


 >  Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem.

Turn on the K3 Monitor (turn up the level).  Select a Data
mode, *HOLD* the CMP/PWR/MONI encoder in until the VFO B
area of the display shows MONI ## and adjust ## until you
hear the monitor audio while transmitting.

All documented in the Owners Manual ...

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-17 2:46 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote:
> Problem: Not hearing any audio during transmit in digital modes.I have a K3, Win 10 PC, with microHam DKII interface.?When transmitting inRTTY, PSK31 or FT-8 I am not hearing any Tx audio, which I had been previously.? I first noticed this in RTTY when not hearingany diddles. But when using MMTTY ? the K3 goes to Tx , I am getting power out and Iam being seen on the RTTY RBN. In PSK31 using WinWabler and FT-8 using WSJT-X, Iam making successful QSO?s. I have gone thru the DK II manual setup pages for theseprograms and cannot find errors in my setup. Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem. Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong?
> 73Paulw2eck
>   
> 

From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Wed Oct 17 16:34:56 2018
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:34:56 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>

Bob,

A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes 
(assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.

I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily 
an eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB 
interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a 
dipole).  I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full 
power).  Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power 
and some ran at QRP (<5w).

I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 
1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts 
are made over a half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by 
terrestrial HF users.

Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure 
maybe would reply.  Just curious.

73, Ed - KL7UW
* that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my 
K3 directly connected.

Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
To: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8 at blomand.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii

I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really 
noted on SSB or CW modes.

I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented 
rather negatively on the point.

Bob, K4TAX


73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
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From eckerpw at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 17 16:44:48 2018
From: eckerpw at yahoo.com (paul ecker)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:44:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio
References: <319474289.11709037.1539809088364.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <319474289.11709037.1539809088364@mail.yahoo.com>

Joe & Bob - thank you very much, you nailed it. The K3 Monitor, when the K3 was in a digital mode, was at 0. Now? have it turned up to 6 and my problem is solved in all the digital modes I listed. Tnx fer quick response.
73?Paul?w2eck

From w6jhb at me.com  Wed Oct 17 17:59:09 2018
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:59:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <88A11703-B632-4FF4-9321-4F86218A8591@me.com>

Ed,

Haven?t seen a response from him yet, but he may be taking about 160 meters. From what I have read, that may be an acceptable thing on that band, given QSB, band conditions, and antenna limitations.

Jim / W6JHB

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes (assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.
> 
> I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily an eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a dipole).  I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).  Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power and some ran at QRP (<5w).
> 
> I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are made over a half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by terrestrial HF users.
> 
> Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure maybe would reply.  Just curious.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> * that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my K3 directly connected.
> 
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> To: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
> Message-ID: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8 at blomand.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
> 
> I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB or CW modes.
> 
> I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue
> 
> Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather negatively on the point.
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>  http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>  dubususa at gmail.com 
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From nk9g at icloud.com  Wed Oct 17 17:59:52 2018
From: nk9g at icloud.com (Rick McGaver)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:59:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mic
Message-ID: <ebc5f169-9dbf-4e12-90e6-ec3a0155510d@me.com>

I have a spare Icom HM-36. ?Anyone know if this will work "well" with KX3
NK 9G


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Wed Oct 17 18:13:12 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:13:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>

Ed,

Not picking on you personally either but I fail to understand this attitude that 
because some digital mode or another can make QSOs with 10 mW on some path, 
everyone else should run only10 mW.

I consider my K3S + KPA500 to be a 500W transceiver (with push buttons for 
selecting bands) and that's the way I run it.? Often, especially when I'm 
beating myself up on 160, I wish for more power. When some of my DX club buddies 
tease me about running QRP should I ask them to lower their power so we have parity?

Wes? N7WS

ps: When I ran 2-meter EME? 30 years ago we actually heard the signals by ear.


On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> Bob,
>
> A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes (assuming 
> you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).? That seems pretty extreme.
>
> I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily an eme'er 
> on 6m+).? But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB interface* for my 
> FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a dipole).? I was recommended 
> to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).? Everyone seemed to do quite well on 
> psk-31 with low power and some ran at QRP (<5w).
>
> I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
> communicate easily.? You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 1500w on 
> JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are made over a 
> half-million mile path.? Certainly not encountered by terrestrial HF users.
>
> Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure maybe 
> would reply.? Just curious.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> * that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.? Now use my K3 
> directly connected.
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> To: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
> Message-ID: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8 at blomand.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;?????? charset=us-ascii
>
> I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.? Issues are not really noted on SSB 
> or CW modes.
>
> I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue
>
> Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather 
> negatively on the point.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> ? http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
> ? dubususa at gmail.com
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Oct 17 18:14:16 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:14:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mic
In-Reply-To: <ebc5f169-9dbf-4e12-90e6-ec3a0155510d@me.com>
References: <ebc5f169-9dbf-4e12-90e6-ec3a0155510d@me.com>
Message-ID: <d8c49bdc-9652-5119-a4b9-05a3897a9c2a@embarqmail.com>

It can be made to work if you build an adapter.  The microphone jack 
pinout is shown in the KX3 manual.
If you don't have the skill to read the mic jack pinout and relate it to 
a plug, then you likely should develop that skill before you attempt to 
build an adapter.  Some basic wiring knowledge is needed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/17/2018 5:59 PM, Rick McGaver via Elecraft wrote:
> I have a spare Icom HM-36. ?Anyone know if this will work "well" with KX3
> NK 9G
> 

From k7jltextra at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 18:42:21 2018
From: k7jltextra at gmail.com (John Hendricks)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:42:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mic
In-Reply-To: <ebc5f169-9dbf-4e12-90e6-ec3a0155510d@me.com>
References: <ebc5f169-9dbf-4e12-90e6-ec3a0155510d@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAGUxkM5Pg=QfrFYztFLv_OiCSyJCo6TDFAvMEDNg2N6JjbjgPA@mail.gmail.com>

Wiring on connector is different so I made up an adapter, easy to figure
out.

John K7JLT

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 3:02 PM Rick McGaver via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I have a spare Icom HM-36.  Anyone know if this will work "well" with KX3
> NK 9G
>
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From scott.small at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 18:58:23 2018
From: scott.small at gmail.com (Tox)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:58:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and
	accessories
In-Reply-To: <162301C4-D67C-4BE1-AA5B-89D77A4D9FB9@elecraft.com>
References: <162301C4-D67C-4BE1-AA5B-89D77A4D9FB9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CADkB6UrWyNBhf_RZdwMTY6mn-=+xkBwh5JRe9AboTFNBkrmYbg@mail.gmail.com>

Any chance you'll have these available this weekend in San Ramon?
AD6YT

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:04 AM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft
> history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight
> field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests.
> (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)
>
> We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can
> find full details and ordering information here:
>
>     http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm
>
> Executive summary:
>
> The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6"
> (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant
> on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient
> matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna
> tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3,
> which both have wide-range internal ATU options.
>
> The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and
> ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for
> full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a
> KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm
> of your hand.
>
> In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories.
>
> First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top
> operation with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a
> right-angle BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from
> rotating in light to moderate wind.
>
> Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a
> standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial
> feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting
> hardware.
>
> In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It
> certainly has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and
> facilitates many outdoor adventures to come.
>
> 73,
> Wayne, N6KR
> Eric, WA6HHQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Wed Oct 17 19:21:39 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:21:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <e14a391e-4cc1-7f81-2fed-dc85f757097d@foothill.net>

That digital modes are all "low power modes" is an unfortunate urban 
legend, Ed.? PSK31 is very narrow and will work well in very narrow RX 
bandwidths.? Noise power, being proportional to bandwidth, will thus be 
less on each end, and lower powers work well.? It's also angle 
modulation and moderately immune to at least Gaussian noise.? JT65, FT8, 
and the other Dr. Joe Taylor modes are "weak signal" not "low power" 
modes.? They operate in roughly a SSB voice channel bandwidth [~3 KHz] 
even though each signal is very narrow.? They will decode at negative 
(S+N)/N ratios in a ~3 KHz channel where there will be many such 
signals.? With today's abysmal conditions, even 1,500 W may result in a 
negative (S+N)/N ratio on the other end.? It's the terrestrial 
equivalent of your lunar path, and no remonstration is required or deserved.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> Bob,
>
> A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes 
> (assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).? That seems pretty extreme.
>
> I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily 
> an eme'er on 6m+).? But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB 
> interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a 
> dipole).? I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).? 
> Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power and some ran 
> at QRP (<5w).
>
> I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
> communicate easily.? You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 
> 1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are 
> made over a half-million mile path.? Certainly not encountered by 
> terrestrial HF users.
>
> Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure 
> maybe would reply.? Just curious.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> * that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.? Now use my 
> K3 directly connected.


From rich at wc3t.us  Wed Oct 17 20:12:16 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:12:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and
	accessories
In-Reply-To: <162301C4-D67C-4BE1-AA5B-89D77A4D9FB9@elecraft.com>
References: <162301C4-D67C-4BE1-AA5B-89D77A4D9FB9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CABYU7WiCbznmPRmKuYrgTGJ7ygFJF6Ghebf_dh_=1m23uryR9A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Wayne,

A couple more details on the AXT1 tripod adapter, if you would;

>From the illustration, it appears that this adapter has the BNC bulkhead
connector for the AX-1, that seems plain enough; but there's no spec for
how it is secured to the tripod other than the 1/4-20 thread spec.   Is the
other side of the adapter a female 1/4-20 connector, requiring only
screwing it to the male (as if you were attaching a camera,) or is it
simply a through bushing requiring some other means of securing it?   I
would hate to order the AXT1 only to find out I now have to run to the
hardware store to cobble together some sort of Franken-mount to make it
work.

Thanks!


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:03 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft
> history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight
> field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests.
> (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)
>
> We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can
> find full details and ordering information here:
>
>     http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm
>
> Executive summary:
>
> The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6"
> (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant
> on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient
> matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna
> tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3,
> which both have wide-range internal ATU options.
>
> The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and
> ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for
> full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a
> KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm
> of your hand.
>
> In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories.
>
> First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top
> operation with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a
> right-angle BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from
> rotating in light to moderate wind.
>
> Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a
> standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial
> feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting
> hardware.
>
> In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It
> certainly has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and
> facilitates many outdoor adventures to come.
>
> 73,
> Wayne, N6KR
> Eric, WA6HHQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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-- 
72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 20:22:40 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:22:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and
	accessories
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7WiCbznmPRmKuYrgTGJ7ygFJF6Ghebf_dh_=1m23uryR9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <162301C4-D67C-4BE1-AA5B-89D77A4D9FB9@elecraft.com>
	<CABYU7WiCbznmPRmKuYrgTGJ7ygFJF6Ghebf_dh_=1m23uryR9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B12D7A4-EA92-4B80-8BE7-46FF95484667@elecraft.com>

Hi Rich,

The AXT1 tripod adapter has a threaded, stainless steel 1/4-20 PEM nut. So you can attach it directly to a standard tripod. 

One of our major goals for the AX line in general  was to avoid Frankenhardware.*

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* But thank you for coining a new word that?s appropriate for the Halloween season.


----
http://www.elecraft.com

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 5:12 PM, rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne, 
> 
> A couple more details on the AXT1 tripod adapter, if you would;
> 
> From the illustration, it appears that this adapter has the BNC bulkhead connector for the AX-1, that seems plain enough; but there's no spec for how it is secured to the tripod other than the 1/4-20 thread spec.   Is the other side of the adapter a female 1/4-20 connector, requiring only screwing it to the male (as if you were attaching a camera,) or is it simply a through bushing requiring some other means of securing it?   I would hate to order the AXT1 only to find out I now have to run to the hardware store to cobble together some sort of Franken-mount to make it work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:03 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> Hi gang,
>> 
>> Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests. (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)
>> 
>> We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can find full details and ordering information here:
>> 
>>     http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm
>> 
>> Executive summary:  
>> 
>> The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6" (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3, which both have wide-range internal ATU options.
>> 
>> The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm of your hand.
>> 
>> In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories. 
>> 
>> First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top operation with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a right-angle BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from rotating in light to moderate wind. 
>> 
>> Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting hardware. 
>> 
>> In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It certainly has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and facilitates many outdoor adventures to come.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne, N6KR
>> Eric, WA6HHQ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> 
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to rich at wc3t.us
> 
> 
> -- 
> 72,
> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737  
> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: FN20is
> 

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Wed Oct 17 20:38:55 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:38:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Talk At Pacificon -- Transmitting Chokes for 630M
Message-ID: <e41159b4-c8dd-3f1e-7efc-cf556fd60a64@audiosystemsgroup.com>

The talk is Saturday morning at 11am. For those out of range of 
Pacificon, slides will be on my website next week.

73, Jim K9YC


From k9ztv at socket.net  Wed Oct 17 21:27:45 2018
From: k9ztv at socket.net (K9ZTV)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:27:45 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] DISTURBING THE HALLOWEEN IONOSPHERE
Message-ID: <6CF8450C-C79B-4266-88F4-20AA78ADE2E7@socket.net>

While we?re Frankenaround here, a reminder that two K3s will again be emanating ghostly signals Halloween night from a desolate farmhouse near Frankenstein, Missouri, beginning 1900Z on CW and SSB.

Brought to you by the witches and warlocks of Mid-MO ARC of Jefferson City for over 25 years from the only incorporated ?Frankenstein? in America, W0O will be spotted on RBN and other networks.  See QRZ.com for details.

73,

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Special Event Coordinator



> On Oct 17, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> One of our major goals for the AX line in general  was to avoid Frankenhardware.*
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> * But thank you for coining a new word that?s appropriate for the Halloween season.
> 


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Oct 17 21:36:55 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:36:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post
In-Reply-To: <a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
	<a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <14805e28-bd74-feed-0613-251ec26a2ef6@blomand.net>

Wes, Ed,? et al;

In my past, having worked EME on 2M, 70cm, and 23cm, I understand path 
loss, antenna gain, feed line loss, NF on the mast mounted preamps, amp 
power to legal limit, weak signals,? and etc.?? Now with that said, I'm 
no different than anyone trying to work a new one for their DXCC or a 
rare DXpedition, a new state or country or grid square.?? What ever 
power it takes is the rule to be applied.??? I don't view FT8 as a low 
power mode but it is a weak signal mode.? Likewise for PSK,? JT9 and 
JT65.?? At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or 
less.?? I don't run RTTY but I do enjoy a rag chew QSO on SSB or CW.?? 
There again, what ever power it takes to make reliable contact is the rule.

I try to be a gentleman with regard to frequency usage, I consider other 
stations on adjacent frequencies, and use the power necessary to make a 
specific contact, based on my antennas, band conditions and the strength 
of the station I'm trying to work. I work 160M through 6M with 3 
antennas.? And yes, the 160M antenna is a 1/2 wave center fed wire with 
balanced feed line.?? That antenna works very nicely using the KAT500 
and a nice Balun Designs 1:1 balun sitting on top of the tuner.? With 
the 4 ele 6M yagi at the top of the tower and another wire antenna for a 
total of 3 antennas, I can work any frequency, any band with up to 500 
watts from the KPA500? into the feed lines.? I don't consider any of my 
antennas to be compromises, but typical ham antennas, and I am not 
limited by space or deed restrictions either.

Yes, I'm very aware that two way contacts can be made with 10 mW or 
less.......under the right conditions.?? But what if every ham world 
wide were limited to 10mW or less.?? I really don't want to think about 
it.? On the other hand, I've made a 2 way CW contact using a 2mW green 
laser.? The path was less than 1/2 mile.

Ham radio is a hobby and I've enjoyed it for the past 59 years. I plan 
to enjoy it for a few more years as well, as I purchased real estate to 
better? facilitate my hobby.? There is nothing like elevation, being 500 
ft above average terrain out to 35 miles. Makes for nice ground gain on 
moon rise and moon set as well.

My point in stating I run 400 watts on digital modes is in reference to 
how the KPA500 performs and the fact it emits audible cracks and pops.? 
If I ran 400 watts on RTTY then the issue of power would not be of 
concern for the general ham public.?? But for digital, the mention of 
that power level seems to raise the hair on ones neck.

No harm in asking fellows.? I do understand? and each to his own objectives.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/17/2018 5:13 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Not picking on you personally either but I fail to understand this 
> attitude that because some digital mode or another can make QSOs with 
> 10 mW on some path, everyone else should run only10 mW.
>
> I consider my K3S + KPA500 to be a 500W transceiver (with push buttons 
> for selecting bands) and that's the way I run it.? Often, especially 
> when I'm beating myself up on 160, I wish for more power. When some of 
> my DX club buddies tease me about running QRP should I ask them to 
> lower their power so we have parity?
>
> Wes? N7WS
>
> ps: When I ran 2-meter EME? 30 years ago we actually heard the signals 
> by ear.
>
>
> On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes 
>> (assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).? That seems pretty extreme.
>>
>> I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily 
>> an eme'er on 6m+).? But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB 
>> interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a 
>> dipole).? I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full 
>> power).? Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power 
>> and some ran at QRP (<5w).
>>
>> I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
>> communicate easily.? You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 
>> 1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts 
>> are made over a half-million mile path.? Certainly not encountered by 
>> terrestrial HF users.
>>
>> Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure 
>> maybe would reply.? Just curious.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> * that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.? Now use my 
>> K3 directly connected.
>>
>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
>> To: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
>> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
>> Message-ID: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8 at blomand.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;?????? charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.? Issues are not really 
>> noted on SSB or CW modes.
>>
>> I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue
>>
>> Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented 
>> rather negatively on the point.
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> ? http://www.kl7uw.com
>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>> ? dubususa at gmail.com
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From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 21:40:03 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:40:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Remote Software
In-Reply-To: <aa1dacdb-ff1c-49a8-6ef3-f5f2756c50af@rthorne.net>
References: <a2f30e2e-8a78-3a65-f61f-354b1889b7e5@gmail.com>
	<aa1dacdb-ff1c-49a8-6ef3-f5f2756c50af@rthorne.net>
Message-ID: <5d705f01-88fd-7088-6d17-3589162d6e25@gmail.com>

Ah of course, stupid me.? I was expecting it with the KPA1500 
soft/firmware.? Thank you.

Rick NHC

PS Now to tell Norton to ignore it.


On 10/17/2018 11:02 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:
> I use Firefox and I was able to get to 1.22
>
> From the main web site:
>
> ??? - click on Firmware & S/W
> ??? - click on Logging and Remote Control Software for the .......
> ??? - scroll down to KPA1500, KPA500, KAT500 Remote Software
>
>
> Rich - N5ZC
>
>
> On 10/17/2018 12:43 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>> I'm reading in the Elecraft newsletter that the KPA1500 remote 
>> software v1.22 is available now.
>>
>> I'm not seeing any links.
>>
>> Is Firefox being stupid again with cache or is it not there?
>>
>> 73,
>> Rick nhc
>>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 21:47:53 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:47:53 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <1539616507223-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <5bc3930e.1c69fb81.6088b.04cf@mx.google.com>
	<1539614494560-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<740c70e0a28d6be1b87799444e93883e@roccon.com>
	<1539616507223-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <8BF1C9EF-8D3D-4333-BEF2-4777DC8D15A3@elecraft.com>

The Safari-4 and Koala are one-of-a-kind. They're in my closet :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 15, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS <indians at xsmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Congrats for your Safari 4 and Koala rigs in collection if you have them!
> SST should not be big problem to find some day...
> 
> Petr
> 
> 



From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Wed Oct 17 21:52:28 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:52:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post
In-Reply-To: <14805e28-bd74-feed-0613-251ec26a2ef6@blomand.net>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
	<a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
	<14805e28-bd74-feed-0613-251ec26a2ef6@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <481e43b7-f11d-08b0-252a-8098241c1d5d@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/17/2018 6:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or less. 

Yup. I mostly use FT8, JT65, and MSK144 on 6M and 160M. I generally run 
as much power as I can on 6M, and on 160M to work EU or AF. OTOH, I'm 
still trying to finish 160M WAS QRP (need VT and SC), and recently 
worked the KH1 expedition on 160 with 5W using FT8. They were 
specifically using FT8 trying to put some EU stations in the log. I've 
since learned that AA7JV was the op.

73, Jim K9YC


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 17 21:58:01 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:58:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 + AX1?
Message-ID: <CAFB646D-DFBE-47FD-A497-5DC8447FD664@elecraft.com>

Noooo! 

Just joking. Emphasizing the very broad nature of our product line. Frightening Eric, as I tend to do each year around Pacificon/Halloween.

But seriously: Now that some AX1s have been shipped, I'd love to hear what everyone's working on their forays into the wild.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


From w0eb at cox.net  Wed Oct 17 22:14:18 2018
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:14:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 + AX1?
In-Reply-To: <CAFB646D-DFBE-47FD-A497-5DC8447FD664@elecraft.com>
References: <CAFB646D-DFBE-47FD-A497-5DC8447FD664@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <F152845E-194A-4604-863E-3405CF1374A8@cox.net>

Hey,
I seem to recall something you said a few years ago about accidentally hitting one of your T1 QRP autotuners with 100 watts for a short period and it survived.  That being said, not sure I'd want to be in the same county with an AX1 connected to a KPA1500 putting out full power, LOL!  The meltdown would be horrendous though the amp would most likely survive.

W0EB

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Noooo! 
> 
> Just joking. Emphasizing the very broad nature of our product line. Frightening Eric, as I tend to do each year around Pacificon/Halloween.
> 
> But seriously: Now that some AX1s have been shipped, I'd love to hear what everyone's working on their forays into the wild.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Wed Oct 17 22:35:44 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:35:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post
In-Reply-To: <481e43b7-f11d-08b0-252a-8098241c1d5d@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
	<a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
	<14805e28-bd74-feed-0613-251ec26a2ef6@blomand.net>
	<481e43b7-f11d-08b0-252a-8098241c1d5d@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <67752BB5-D5EC-4DB2-98C2-AA5164DA1F7A@wunderwood.org>

Specifically about PSK31, that encoding needs a very linear transmit system. The 25 W recommendation keeps the signal and the peaks in the linear region of most 100 W amps. Modes that do not use phase shift keying on a single carrier might not have the same linearity requirements.

A clean 25 W PSK31 transmission might be heard better than a distorted 100 W PSK31 transmission.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10/17/2018 6:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or less. 
> 
> Yup. I mostly use FT8, JT65, and MSK144 on 6M and 160M. I generally run as much power as I can on 6M, and on 160M to work EU or AF. OTOH, I'm still trying to finish 160M WAS QRP (need VT and SC), and recently worked the KH1 expedition on 160 with 5W using FT8. They were specifically using FT8 trying to put some EU stations in the log. I've since learned that AA7JV was the op.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Wed Oct 17 23:45:54 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:45:54 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post
In-Reply-To: <67752BB5-D5EC-4DB2-98C2-AA5164DA1F7A@wunderwood.org>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
	<a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
	<14805e28-bd74-feed-0613-251ec26a2ef6@blomand.net>
	<481e43b7-f11d-08b0-252a-8098241c1d5d@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<67752BB5-D5EC-4DB2-98C2-AA5164DA1F7A@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <6C331243-61BD-47A7-81AE-13349C5F7B0A@blomand.net>

Yes and when running PSK-31 if you don't get IMD reports of between -21dB and/or more like -29dB then most likely something at your station needs improvement. Usually overdrive either in the audio system or RF path is a contributing factor.  ALC action is often one culprit.  Some radios leave the SP or EQ circuits in the path. They should be OFF or bypassed.  

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 9:35 PM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:
> 
> Specifically about PSK31, that encoding needs a very linear transmit system. The 25 W recommendation keeps the signal and the peaks in the linear region of most 100 W amps. Modes that do not use phase shift keying on a single carrier might not have the same linearity requirements.
> 
> A clean 25 W PSK31 transmission might be heard better than a distorted 100 W PSK31 transmission.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/17/2018 6:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>>> At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or less. 
>> 
>> Yup. I mostly use FT8, JT65, and MSK144 on 6M and 160M. I generally run as much power as I can on 6M, and on 160M to work EU or AF. OTOH, I'm still trying to finish 160M WAS QRP (need VT and SC), and recently worked the KH1 expedition on 160 with 5W using FT8. They were specifically using FT8 trying to put some EU stations in the log. I've since learned that AA7JV was the op.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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From ag6zz at iloc.com  Thu Oct 18 04:51:24 2018
From: ag6zz at iloc.com (Robert Morris)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 01:51:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker
Message-ID: <10942ed8719073a2f9601d142e27ccff@iloc.com>

SPX3
Here is an update to the powered external speaker for the KX3 I've been
developing, named SPX3. It has required a lot of patience waiting for
prototype circuit boards and sheet metal enclosure parts to be
fabricated. Refinements are still in process. At any rate, here is the
latest. 

AESTHETICS
The speaker is designed to match the overall look of the KX3 and PX3,
and accept similar third-party panels and covers as for the KX Line. The
folks at SIDE KX are working with me on this. Presently, it uses the
same feet as the KX3 and PX3, and the same style rear leg as the KX2. It
is the same height and depth as the KX3 and PX3. There is one power port
for charging the internal lithium battery, and input and output stereo
jacks. The speaker is mono. The output jack redirects the right channel
from the stereo input for a second speaker, just like with the Elecraft
SP3 and other similar external speakers. The speaker is amplified. 

SPECIFICATIONS
The SPX3 amplifier puts out a maximum of 5W into a 10W speaker driver,
and is about as loud as any external radio speaker gets. Volume is
adjusted by the KX3 and by the volume knob on the SPX3. The volume knob
also turns it on and off. It plugs into the KX2/KX3 PHONES jack. There
is a built-in band pass filter to reduce noise and improve the listening
experience. 

Just like the KX2, KX3 and PX3, the SPX3 is not waterproof. So, don't
drop it in a lake. It will handle all conditions appropriate for the KX
Line, and is meant for indoor and outdoor use. 

You'll see the speaker is not a polished finished product yet, as it's a
prototype spray painted by hand without labels. A power on LED will be
added to the final product. 

Please note, the KX3 in the photo is only to demonstrate the speaker. 

Pictures: 

SPX3 with KX3: http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_KX3_2.JPG
SPX3 Left Oblique:
http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique_2 [1].JPG [2] 

73,
Robert (AG6ZZ) 

SPX2, SPX3, are Trademarks (TM) of Robert J. Morris
SPX2, SPX3 are Copyright (C) 2018 by Robert J. Morris 

Links:
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[1] http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique.JPG
[2] http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_RightOblique.JPG

From ag6zz at iloc.com  Thu Oct 18 05:00:39 2018
From: ag6zz at iloc.com (Robert Morris)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 02:00:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker
In-Reply-To: <10942ed8719073a2f9601d142e27ccff@iloc.com>
References: <10942ed8719073a2f9601d142e27ccff@iloc.com>
Message-ID: <31e98c4f77bd1d9f8398d159191b240e@iloc.com>

I was horrified to discover the Elecraft mail server mangled the picture
URLs, and added old URLs at the bottom. Please try these, without
quotes: 

SPX3 with KX3: "http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_KX3_2.JPG"
SPX3 Left Oblique:
"http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique_2 [1].JPG [2]"

On 2018-10-18 01:51, Robert Morris wrote:

> SPX3
> Here is an update to the powered external speaker for the KX3 I've been developing, named SPX3. It has required a lot of patience waiting for prototype circuit boards and sheet metal enclosure parts to be fabricated. Refinements are still in process. At any rate, here is the latest. 
> 
> AESTHETICS
> The speaker is designed to match the overall look of the KX3 and PX3, and accept similar third-party panels and covers as for the KX Line. The folks at SIDE KX are working with me on this. Presently, it uses the same feet as the KX3 and PX3, and the same style rear leg as the KX2. It is the same height and depth as the KX3 and PX3. There is one power port for charging the internal lithium battery, and input and output stereo jacks. The speaker is mono. The output jack redirects the right channel from the stereo input for a second speaker, just like with the Elecraft SP3 and other similar external speakers. The speaker is amplified. 
> 
> SPECIFICATIONS
> The SPX3 amplifier puts out a maximum of 5W into a 10W speaker driver, and is about as loud as any external radio speaker gets. Volume is adjusted by the KX3 and by the volume knob on the SPX3. The volume knob also turns it on and off. It plugs into the KX2/KX3 PHONES jack. There is a built-in band pass filter to reduce noise and improve the listening experience. 
> 
> Just like the KX2, KX3 and PX3, the SPX3 is not waterproof. So, don't drop it in a lake. It will handle all conditions appropriate for the KX Line, and is meant for indoor and outdoor use. 
> 
> You'll see the speaker is not a polished finished product yet, as it's a prototype spray painted by hand without labels. A power on LED will be added to the final product. 
> 
> Please note, the KX3 in the photo is only to demonstrate the speaker. 
> 
> Pictures: 
> 
> SPX3 with KX3: http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_KX3_2.JPG
> SPX3 Left Oblique: http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique_2 [1].JPG [2] 
> 
> 73,
> Robert (AG6ZZ) 
> 
> SPX2, SPX3, are Trademarks (TM) of Robert J. Morris
> SPX2, SPX3 are Copyright (C) 2018 by Robert J. Morris
 

Links:
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[1] http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique.JPG
[2] http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_RightOblique.JPG

From ve2fww at globetrotter.net  Thu Oct 18 07:11:40 2018
From: ve2fww at globetrotter.net (NOEL POULIN)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:11:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] O.T.
Message-ID: <5ae3e759-b8a9-e922-b72e-8593f126e398@globetrotter.net>

Hello to all.
I have for sale a KPA500F, bought new last July.
I am in Quebec, Canada.
I have used the amplifier only a couple of week ends.So it is like new.
I am asking $1995.US.
If you would be? interested buying...and talking about shipping....or 
may be you can pick it up here....or another way to ship...
please contact me off line..
Thanks
Noel



From ny9h at arrl.net  Thu Oct 18 10:29:46 2018
From: ny9h at arrl.net (bill steffey)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 10:29:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
In-Reply-To: <5ae3e759-b8a9-e922-b72e-8593f126e398@globetrotter.net>
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Message-ID: <mailman.81.1539873008.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot 
close it or move it.

I could not find an  "ini" file to amend the screen position.


How do i reposition that application ( which does not appear to be "installed")


bill ny9h


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From n3eta at coastside.net  Thu Oct 18 12:10:08 2018
From: n3eta at coastside.net (Ron Genovesi)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:10:08 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <8BF1C9EF-8D3D-4333-BEF2-4777DC8D15A3@elecraft.com>
References: <5bc3930e.1c69fb81.6088b.04cf@mx.google.com>
	<1539614494560-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<740c70e0a28d6be1b87799444e93883e@roccon.com>
	<1539616507223-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<8BF1C9EF-8D3D-4333-BEF2-4777DC8D15A3@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <D419A88B-4301-410E-B7A2-CFAA3982DD2F@coastside.net>

Wayne
 If your interested in starting a museum of QRP and Accessory kits. I have 2 large cases full of club kits (NorCal, Ga. QRP etc.) and small manufacturer (QRP me, Hendricks etc.).  Probably around 100 kits (have to count them) all unbuilt w/hard copy printout and/or  Digital copies of the construction manuals. Some are still available most are out of production. I stopped collecting them around 10  years ago. So all are at least that old.
   If it?s something your interested in I?ll send you a picture and/or a list. If your starting a collection for historical purposes we can probably work something out.

     Ron Genovesi
           N3ETA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> The Safari-4 and Koala are one-of-a-kind. They're in my closet :)
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS <indians at xsmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Congrats for your Safari 4 and Koala rigs in collection if you have them!
>> SST should not be big problem to find some day...
>> 
>> Petr
>> 
>> 
> 
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From k9yeq at live.com  Thu Oct 18 13:24:34 2018
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:24:34 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
In-Reply-To: <20181018143013.63255149B209@mailman.qth.net>
References: <5ae3e759-b8a9-e922-b72e-8593f126e398@globetrotter.net>
	<20181018143013.63255149B209@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <SN6PR05MB4288FE6D9DCFA3E1F648BAD19CF80@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Bill,
Look in the manual, if you don't have one, Elecraft has one on their website.  I would suggest reloading the firmware.  I have not worked on mine in years so I have forgotten the process.  If that doesn't work for you, then tech support will be current I am sure.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of bill steffey
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:30 AM
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....

i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot close it or move it.

I could not find an  "ini" file to amend the screen position.


How do i reposition that application ( which does not appear to be "installed")


bill ny9h


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From jackbrindle at me.com  Thu Oct 18 14:12:25 2018
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 11:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR05MB4288FE6D9DCFA3E1F648BAD19CF80@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <5ae3e759-b8a9-e922-b72e-8593f126e398@globetrotter.net>
	<20181018143013.63255149B209@mailman.qth.net>
	<SN6PR05MB4288FE6D9DCFA3E1F648BAD19CF80@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <2EBF99D5-D52A-49F7-A565-2CE33AA9D7A8@me.com>

I presume you are talking about the W2 Windows Utility and not the W2 itself, especially since the W2 has no video monitor or video monitor outputs. Reloading firmware would have no effect here. It is purely a Windows issue.
Perhaps some Windows experts can help out?

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> Look in the manual, if you don't have one, Elecraft has one on their website.  I would suggest reloading the firmware.  I have not worked on mine in years so I have forgotten the process.  If that doesn't work for you, then tech support will be current I am sure.
> 
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of bill steffey
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:30 AM
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
> 
> i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot close it or move it.
> 
> I could not find an  "ini" file to amend the screen position.
> 
> 
> How do i reposition that application ( which does not appear to be "installed")
> 
> 
> bill ny9h
> 
> 
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From dave.w0zf at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 15:22:58 2018
From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:22:58 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
In-Reply-To: <2EBF99D5-D52A-49F7-A565-2CE33AA9D7A8@me.com>
References: <5ae3e759-b8a9-e922-b72e-8593f126e398@globetrotter.net>
	<20181018143013.63255149B209@mailman.qth.net>
	<SN6PR05MB4288FE6D9DCFA3E1F648BAD19CF80@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
	<2EBF99D5-D52A-49F7-A565-2CE33AA9D7A8@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAF==Uf0YJ9MAmERfzfp4keQBQ67O6BBGp3YNexiUb741+4vvQA@mail.gmail.com>

Bill,
When you say it 'locks itself up top', I assume you mean that you can see
part of the window, but is so high up that the title bar is not on screen.
Is that correct?

If so, then:
1) click somewhere in that window to make it the active window
2) on the keyboard, hold down the Alt key and tap the spacebar. You should
see a popup menu with options like Restore, Move, etc.
3) tap the x key. This will maximize that window to fill your screen, and
the title bar will be visible
Now you can resize or close the window.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:13 PM Jack Brindle via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I presume you are talking about the W2 Windows Utility and not the W2
> itself, especially since the W2 has no video monitor or video monitor
> outputs. Reloading firmware would have no effect here. It is purely a
> Windows issue.
> Perhaps some Windows experts can help out?
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
> > On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > Look in the manual, if you don't have one, Elecraft has one on their
> website.  I would suggest reloading the firmware.  I have not worked on
> mine in years so I have forgotten the process.  If that doesn't work for
> you, then tech support will be current I am sure.
> >
> > 72 & 73,
> > Bill
> > K9YEQ
> > FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> On Behalf Of bill steffey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:30 AM
> > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
> >
> > i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot
> close it or move it.
> >
> > I could not find an  "ini" file to amend the screen position.
> >
> >
> > How do i reposition that application ( which does not appear to be
> "installed")
> >
> >
> > bill ny9h
> >
> >
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From ny9h at comcast.net  Thu Oct 18 16:15:44 2018
From: ny9h at comcast.net (ny9h@arrl.net)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:15:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
In-Reply-To: <CAF==Uf0YJ9MAmERfzfp4keQBQ67O6BBGp3YNexiUb741+4vvQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.89.1539893747.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Tnx...
I will try asap. When I get home.
H/3


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.
-------- Original message --------From: Dave Fugleberg <dave.w0zf at gmail.com> Date: 10/18/18  3:22 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com> Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position.... 
Bill,
When you say it 'locks itself up top', I assume you mean that you can see
part of the window, but is so high up that the title bar is not on screen.
Is that correct?

If so, then:
1) click somewhere in that window to make it the active window
2) on the keyboard, hold down the Alt key and tap the spacebar. You should
see a popup menu with options like Restore, Move, etc.
3) tap the x key. This will maximize that window to fill your screen, and
the title bar will be visible
Now you can resize or close the window.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:13 PM Jack Brindle via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I presume you are talking about the W2 Windows Utility and not the W2
> itself, especially since the W2 has no video monitor or video monitor
> outputs. Reloading firmware would have no effect here. It is purely a
> Windows issue.
> Perhaps some Windows experts can help out?
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
> > On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > Look in the manual, if you don't have one, Elecraft has one on their
> website.? I would suggest reloading the firmware.? I have not worked on
> mine in years so I have forgotten the process.? If that doesn't work for
> you, then tech support will be current I am sure.
> >
> > 72 & 73,
> > Bill
> > K9YEQ
> > FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,? KAT500, W2, etc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> On Behalf Of bill steffey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:30 AM
> > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....
> >
> > i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot
> close it or move it.
> >
> > I could not find an? "ini" file to amend the screen position.
> >
> >
> > How do i reposition that application ( which does not appear to be
> "installed")
> >
> >
> > bill ny9h
> >
> >
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From eric at elecraft.com  Thu Oct 18 20:51:18 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:51:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
Message-ID: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>

We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.?? Please take a look and enjoy!

If you have trouble accessing the site, your computer or external DNS server may 
still be waiting to update its local IP address cache.
In general, everything should catch up over the next few hours.

For those us us who don't want to wait, In Windows, if you run the 'cmd' program 
in admin mode and type " ipconfig /flushdns " that may help.
Also clearing the cache in your browser will also help speed things.

Feel free to post here if you need help finding something that has moved on the 
site.

Much of our firmware, software and 3rd party control software can now be found 
under the "support" link at the top of the page.

73,
-- 
Eric
/elecraft.com/


From rich at wc3t.us  Thu Oct 18 21:23:05 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:23:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CABYU7Wgqc8T=tEX=8FvQEzNRg8XyoT1QHv7F_fcXTws+0QbXgA@mail.gmail.com>

Just spun through the main page. Can?t wait to look at it on a real
browser.  :)

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 20:51 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
eric at elecraft.com> wrote:

> We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.   Please take a look
> and enjoy!
>
> If you have trouble accessing the site, your computer or external DNS
> server may
> still be waiting to update its local IP address cache.
> In general, everything should catch up over the next few hours.
>
> For those us us who don't want to wait, In Windows, if you run the 'cmd'
> program
> in admin mode and type " ipconfig /flushdns " that may help.
> Also clearing the cache in your browser will also help speed things.
>
> Feel free to post here if you need help finding something that has moved
> on the
> site.
>
> Much of our firmware, software and 3rd party control software can now be
> found
> under the "support" link at the top of the page.
>
> 73,
> --
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
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-- 
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Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 21:37:59 2018
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 01:37:59 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7Wgqc8T=tEX=8FvQEzNRg8XyoT1QHv7F_fcXTws+0QbXgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<CABYU7Wgqc8T=tEX=8FvQEzNRg8XyoT1QHv7F_fcXTws+0QbXgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <em25871d91-7f5c-4909-ad03-30be32a50c05@laptop3>

Looks pretty good for what I've seen so far.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "rich hurd WC3T" <rich at wc3t.us>
To: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <eric at elecraft.com>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector Reflector" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 10/18/2018 9:23:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up

>Just spun through the main page. Can?t wait to look at it on a real
>browser.  :)
>
>On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 20:51 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
>eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>
>>We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.   Please take a 
>>look
>>and enjoy!
>>
>>If you have trouble accessing the site, your computer or external DNS
>>server may
>>still be waiting to update its local IP address cache.
>>In general, everything should catch up over the next few hours.
>>
>>For those us us who don't want to wait, In Windows, if you run the 
>>'cmd'
>>program
>>in admin mode and type " ipconfig /flushdns " that may help.
>>Also clearing the cache in your browser will also help speed things.
>>
>>Feel free to post here if you need help finding something that has 
>>moved
>>on the
>>site.
>>
>>Much of our firmware, software and 3rd party control software can now 
>>be
>>found
>>under the "support" link at the top of the page.
>>
>>73,
>>--
>>Eric
>>/elecraft.com/
>>
>>______________________________________________________________
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>Scouting
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 21:48:49 2018
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:48:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <em25871d91-7f5c-4909-ad03-30be32a50c05@laptop3>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<CABYU7Wgqc8T=tEX=8FvQEzNRg8XyoT1QHv7F_fcXTws+0QbXgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<em25871d91-7f5c-4909-ad03-30be32a50c05@laptop3>
Message-ID: <CAFHjwP6rVbB+b23dHO3h8bGn85L3jkSoG_e3k-Cxo58zP6mrkQ@mail.gmail.com>

I particularly like the photo, in the home page banner, of the father
helping his then-Cub Scout (now Boy Scout) son making Jamboree on the Air
contacts. :-)

BTW, for those who don't know, JOTA runs this weekend, Friday - Sunday. If
you hear any Scouts on the air calling "CQ JOTA", please give them a call
and a QSO.

73 de,

Ian, KM4IK

On Oct 18, 2018 9:40 PM, "Barry" <barrylazar2 at gmail.com> wrote:

Looks pretty good for what I've seen so far.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "rich hurd WC3T" <rich at wc3t.us>
To: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <eric at elecraft.com>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector Reflector" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 10/18/2018 9:23:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up

>Just spun through the main page. Can?t wait to look at it on a real
>browser.  :)
>
>On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 20:51 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
>eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>
>>We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.   Please take a
>>look
>>and enjoy!
>>
>>If you have trouble accessing the site, your computer or external DNS
>>server may
>>still be waiting to update its local IP address cache.
>>In general, everything should catch up over the next few hours.
>>
>>For those us us who don't want to wait, In Windows, if you run the
>>'cmd'
>>program
>>in admin mode and type " ipconfig /flushdns " that may help.
>>Also clearing the cache in your browser will also help speed things.
>>
>>Feel free to post here if you need help finding something that has
>>moved
>>on the
>>site.
>>
>>Much of our firmware, software and 3rd party control software can now
>>be
>>found
>>under the "support" link at the top of the page.
>>
>>73,
>>--
>>Eric
>>/elecraft.com/
>>
>>______________________________________________________________
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>Scouting
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>Grid:
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From eric at elecraft.com  Thu Oct 18 21:50:09 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:50:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Talk At Pacificon -- 9 AM Saturday: "Honey I
 Shrunk the Linear.."
In-Reply-To: <e41159b4-c8dd-3f1e-7efc-cf556fd60a64@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <e41159b4-c8dd-3f1e-7efc-cf556fd60a64@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <047d24be-392e-bbac-bff9-62504e2322c4@elecraft.com>

I will also be giving a talk at Pacificon on this Saturday at 9 AM Titled:

"Building a Modern Solid-State Amplifier
 ????????????????????????? -or-
 ????? Honey, I shrunk the Linear!"

I'll be covering our KPA1500 design goals and what it takes to manufacture and 
test a modern solid state amplifier like the KPA1500, followed with general Q&A 
from the audience.

See you all there!

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/



From n6tv at arrl.net  Thu Oct 18 21:51:10 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:51:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] What is the TX DLY of a KX3?
In-Reply-To: <CAOmNKGL3dSE3kXHuz=d5GGwbsUUPfB7MTNEyJz2EmZ-J6sgM8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOmNKGL3dSE3kXHuz=d5GGwbsUUPfB7MTNEyJz2EmZ-J6sgM8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGKF_SBdDfHPsMYd2zuVxpbD1i1+0agX5VRDOuPm7Zmd+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Never mind.  I must have been looking at an old manual.  The KX3 MENU:TX
DLY setting is clearly documented on Page 41 of the KX3 Owner's Manual Rev.
C5
<ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/KX3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740163%20KX3%20Owner's%20man%20Rev%20C5.pdf>
.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:26 AM Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net> wrote:

> What is the fixed delay between KEY OUT going low and RF coming out of a
> KX3?  The K3 has a CONFIG:TX DLY setting, but I find no equivalent in the
> KX3 manuals.  The concern would be RF hot switching if the external
> amplifier relay is too slow.
>
> From the KX3 manual:
>
> "The keyline output goes low during transmit, and can be used for
> transmit/receive switching of linear amplifiers and transverters."  The TX
> Delay does not appear to be documented.
>
> (KEY OUT on a KX3 is the RING contact of the 2.5 mm stereo connector
> labeled ACC2).
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>

From rocketnj at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 21:59:29 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:59:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <CAFHjwP6rVbB+b23dHO3h8bGn85L3jkSoG_e3k-Cxo58zP6mrkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<CABYU7Wgqc8T=tEX=8FvQEzNRg8XyoT1QHv7F_fcXTws+0QbXgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<em25871d91-7f5c-4909-ad03-30be32a50c05@laptop3>
	<CAFHjwP6rVbB+b23dHO3h8bGn85L3jkSoG_e3k-Cxo58zP6mrkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AD95C79B-5DD0-4AE6-B4B4-5AA5A85D6F32@gmail.com>

Looks good on an iPad.

Dave wo2x

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Ian Kahn <km4ik.ian at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I particularly like the photo, in the home page banner, of the father
> helping his then-Cub Scout (now Boy Scout) son making Jamboree on the Air
> contacts. :-)
> 
> BTW, for those who don't know, JOTA runs this weekend, Friday - Sunday. If
> you hear any Scouts on the air calling "CQ JOTA", please give them a call
> and a QSO.
> 
> 73 de,
> 
> Ian, KM4IK
> 
> On Oct 18, 2018 9:40 PM, "Barry" <barrylazar2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Looks pretty good for what I've seen so far.
> 
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "rich hurd WC3T" <rich at wc3t.us>
> To: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <eric at elecraft.com>
> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector Reflector" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 10/18/2018 9:23:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
> 
>> Just spun through the main page. Can?t wait to look at it on a real
>> browser.  :)
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 20:51 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
>> eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.   Please take a
>>> look
>>> and enjoy!
>>> 
>>> If you have trouble accessing the site, your computer or external DNS
>>> server may
>>> still be waiting to update its local IP address cache.
>>> In general, everything should catch up over the next few hours.
>>> 
>>> For those us us who don't want to wait, In Windows, if you run the
>>> 'cmd'
>>> program
>>> in admin mode and type " ipconfig /flushdns " that may help.
>>> Also clearing the cache in your browser will also help speed things.
>>> 
>>> Feel free to post here if you need help finding something that has
>>> moved
>>> on the
>>> site.
>>> 
>>> Much of our firmware, software and 3rd party control software can now
>>> be
>>> found
>>> under the "support" link at the top of the page.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> --
>>> Eric
>>> /elecraft.com/
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> 
>> --
>> 72,
>> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
>> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for
>> Scouting
>> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W)
>> Grid:
>> *FN20is*
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Thu Oct 18 22:22:26 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:22:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <CAFHjwP6rVbB+b23dHO3h8bGn85L3jkSoG_e3k-Cxo58zP6mrkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-8E9B150E303348379C0A52EB9EDE665C@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I wish there was a way to turn off the auto-advance on those 
photos. They change faster than I can take them in. I find the 
speed quite annoying. But I love the pictures. And the one of 
Ian and son is well worth looking at for some time.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/18/18 at 6:48 PM, km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) wrote:

>I particularly like the photo, in the home page banner, of the father
>helping his then-Cub Scout (now Boy Scout) son making Jamboree on the Air
>contacts. :-)
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 22:34:12 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 22:34:12 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10136i-8E9B150E303348379C0A52EB9EDE665C@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-8E9B150E303348379C0A52EB9EDE665C@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <24FBA248-BFA1-418F-9C79-EE4D8741D514@gmail.com>

All you have to do is put your cursor on  photo and left click and hold until you?re ready to move on.  Well, at least that works on my Mac.  Probably same ?

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> I wish there was a way to turn off the auto-advance on those photos. They change faster than I can take them in. I find the speed quite annoying. But I love the pictures. And the one of Ian and son is well worth looking at for some time.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 10/18/18 at 6:48 PM, km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) wrote:
> 


From rboutell at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 18 22:40:56 2018
From: rboutell at hotmail.com (rboutell)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:40:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
Info on the new K4 :)
73, Russ. W9RB



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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Oct 18 22:53:03 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:53:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>

> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.

Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Oct 18 23:14:27 2018
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:14:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <AABA1559-5CAE-4CE5-9181-9C41812C6B28@me.com>

Not seeing the KPA500/KAT500 combo in the October specials page.

Also, the old web site had a list of the Elecraft on-air nets. Can?t seem to find it on the new site. If it does get resurrected, please note that the Sunday evening 40 meter CW net has moved up two KHz to 7.047 due to QRM.

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

On Oct 18, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

>> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
>> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
>> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
> 
> Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Fri Oct 19 03:41:35 2018
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 23:41:35 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: <201810190741.w9J7fbL0009453@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

Guess I got a few replies to my comments.  I will try to respond to 
all in this one:

James-w6jhb:  Bob did reply back and was referring to using digital 
on 160m, which is harder to work than upper bands like 20m.  More 
power helps.  I have done some operating on 600m (before it became a 
ham band) and FCC limits 630m operations to 5w EIRP which is a real 
test of ability and equipment.  Yet CW and digital modes are making 
some surprising DX contacts on a band that is not known for 
ionospheric prop (D-layer only).

Wes-N7WS:  Uh, I never mentioned running 10mw.  I did suggest 10% (of 
full power) might be quite adequate on digital.  So that would be 
150w for a KPA1500 or 50w for a KPA500.  Yes, I have heard that some 
are making HF digital contacts at 10mw (or such) but that is a 
personal challenge (as I see it).  Again 160m is a special case with 
limited prop as compared to 20-10m.  I would probably use full power 
if I were on 160m (currently that is 100w from my KXPA100).

Many still use CW on eme but that is on 432 and up these 
days.  6m-eme is 100% digital and 2m-eme is 99%.  I made some of my 
early 2m contacts using CW.

Fred-K6DWG:  Sorry but you are not correct on how JT65, FT8, and 
other WSJT modes work.  Yes, you run the receiver RF bandwidth at 
nominal 2.5-KHz (SSB) width but that is just to make operating with 
various Doppler offsets easier (as you can see all the signals within 
the wider bw.  But the detection bw of JT65 is 4.7 Hz and that is a 
large part of why it is approx 10-dB more sensitive than CW.  S+N/N 
of 4.7 Hz over 50-Hz (apparent detection bw of the human ear/brain) 
does reduce the noise power vs signal.  JT-65 and other of these 
digital modes are FSK with the sw detecting single tones.  The shift 
freq of JT-65 is over a wider range but that does not affect 
detection.  I believe psk-31 is much wider detection bw (often 
referred to as RBW) so it is not near as good for weak signal 
operation.  I understand that more power may be needed to overcome HF 
noise floors that are much higher than VHF+ where eme is done.  Still 
not convinced that one needs QRO for terrestrial path loss.  QRM 
maybe requires it.  I have no local eme QRM.  Pile ups are on the 
receiving end of multiple stations calling me (KL7 is rare on eme).

Bob-K4TAX:  Yeah I get it.  It depends on frequency band as far as 
how well signals reach.  As  I  already stated, I never mentioned 
10mw (Wes thru that into the discussion) but I do think one does not 
need to run the same power as a CW or SSB contact if using a NB 
digital mode.  Of course that varies with band conditions and 
distance worked.  FT8 (in particular) is getting thru when poor band 
conditions prevent CW/SSB from happening.  Using the power necessary 
is a given - just don't see that running (near) max power is 
necessary (all the time which seems to be the HF mentality - 
regardless of mode or conditions).

BTW my 495 KHz 5w EIRP CW signal has been detected about 4,000 miles, 
so its quite possible.  FCC limits 630m ham operation to 5w EIRP 
(which is about what I get running 100w output from my PA and due to 
4% antenna efficiency).

Thanks for bearing with this multi-part reply; figured it would use 
less list bandwidth with this approach.  Probably not worth further 
on-list commentary; reply direct to me if any of you want to continue,



73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   dubususa at gmail.com 


From brian.waterworth at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 06:11:44 2018
From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:11:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <AABA1559-5CAE-4CE5-9181-9C41812C6B28@me.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<AABA1559-5CAE-4CE5-9181-9C41812C6B28@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAM34cKcJnt9M7Z8sC0uJ0Jd8rhdKLS0=MV51J8W+euLqqqr+Xg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for making your new website mobile enabled.  That is a big step.
I can now read the web pages without zooming on my phone.  The use of cards
and responsive design is well done too.  Makes it easy to show other new
hams in my club what I am talking about when I sing Elecraft's praises at
club meetings.

regards,
Brian
VE3IBW

From johnae5x at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 06:29:19 2018
From: johnae5x at gmail.com (John Harper)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 05:29:19 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft]  NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
Message-ID: <CAPHmH=PHxFExUzYsfDTmRihHEN_SYPE=ZVhaOikO1Z3aMA51QQ@mail.gmail.com>

Clicking on the KX2 Special brings up the K2, not the KX2.
https://elecraft.com/pages/deals

73,

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

From w9lsl at arrl.net  Fri Oct 19 07:44:50 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (W9LSL)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 04:44:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking to borrow or rent a XG50
Message-ID: <1539949490100-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I?d like to temp compensate my KX3, but I don?t see a XG50 as being something
I would need to keep around long term.  Does anyone have one I can borrow or
rent for a few days?

73 -

Ken Ford W9LSL
Illinois



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From w9lsl at arrl.net  Fri Oct 19 08:04:33 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (W9LSL)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 05:04:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1539950673248-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

It appears we need to re-register with the new site?  It doesn?t recognize my
prior account information.  If I create a new account, will my past order
history be consolidated?

73 -

Ken Ford W9LSL
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From rocketnj at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 08:06:13 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (David Decoons)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:06:13 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
Message-ID: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>

I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??

I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 

Thanks
Dave wo2x


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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Fri Oct 19 08:08:23 2018
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:08:23 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>,
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A382ED5@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>

I tried to log in but was informed that my email address (the one(s) I've been using for the past 18 years were invalid. So I registered new. However now it shows I never ordered anything. Are we just starting new on the books of the new website?

Chuck Hawley
 c-hawley at illinois.edu
 Amateur Radio, KE9UW

________________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Wayne Burdick [n6kr at elecraft.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:53 PM
To: rboutell
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up

> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.

Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

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From K1ND at comcast.net  Fri Oct 19 08:57:23 2018
From: K1ND at comcast.net (Jan)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:57:23 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage
Message-ID: <f9b3d2c1-ccd7-0237-6441-252ec4699971@comcast.net>

Very nice presentation on the new website

To find the variety of pictures submitted, go to SEARCH? enter ~ 
pictures? ~?? or picture gallery?? ~

Cheers, Jan K1ND


From va3mw at portcredit.net  Fri Oct 19 09:01:31 2018
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:01:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts7MjuB17qZ=eSLBMjaJANKiFfxxdw-9dxaDyrTwxg37Bw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Dave

I had this exact thing happen on the 6300, and what it was was that I had
T'd off the logic on the PTT lead from TX1 to another T/R relay for a
receiving antenna.

I solved the Amp issue by removing the 2nd device, replacing the 6300 with
a Flex 6600 and then using the TX2 ptt line on the 6600 for the receiving
antenna TR relay (ok, I got carried away).  Short story was that the keying
line was not going fully to 0v.

Might you have done something similar?

Mike va3mw



On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:07 AM David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:

> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the
> radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this
> ?feature??
>
> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent
> accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the
> radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically.
>
> Thanks
> Dave wo2x
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
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From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 09:10:04 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:10:04 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A382ED5@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A382ED5@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
Message-ID: <8E6ACDF4-61D8-4C17-919B-92F5022B9A4C@elecraft.com>

I apologize for the confusion on this.

Yes, the new website requires registering again if you prefer it to save your info for subsequent order entry. Its a completely different secure payment processing system. 

Of course we still have all of your past order and shipping info in our in-house accounting and customer support (CRM) systems.  But re-registering for the secure payment system on the website, while not required,  will certainly simplify and speed entry of your subsequent web orders. 

73, 
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:08 AM, hawley, charles j jr <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote:
> 
> I tried to log in but was informed that my email address (the one(s) I've been using for the past 18 years were invalid. So I registered new. However now it shows I never ordered anything. Are we just starting new on the books of the new website?
> 
> Chuck Hawley
> c-hawley at illinois.edu
> Amateur Radio, KE9UW
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Wayne Burdick [n6kr at elecraft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:53 PM
> To: rboutell
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
> 
>> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
>> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
>> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
> 
> Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 09:15:38 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:15:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
In-Reply-To: <a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
References: <201810172035.w9HKYv3D020204@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
	<a248461d-01df-c568-4be3-1d49e2fab6bf@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <844A2A28-B0F8-40D6-A723-4C9ECF6785FA@elecraft.com>

Folks, this endless topic has been discussed before in depth on thenlist and is available in the archives. In the interest of keeping list volume and SNR reasonable, lets end this thread.

In general, please take discussions and arguments about appropriate power levels for any mode off list for discussion. 

73, 
Eric
Moderater
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 17, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Wes Stewart <wes_n7ws at triconet.org> wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Not picking on you personally either but I fail to understand this attitude that because some digital mode or another can make QSOs with 10 mW on some path, everyone else should run only10 mW.
> 
> I consider my K3S + KPA500 to be a 500W transceiver (with push buttons for selecting bands) and that's the way I run it.  Often, especially when I'm beating myself up on 160, I wish for more power. When some of my DX club buddies tease me about running QRP should I ask them to lower their power so we have parity?
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> ps: When I ran 2-meter EME  30 years ago we actually heard the signals by ear.
> 
> 
>> On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> Bob,
>> 
>> A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes (assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.
>> 
>> I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily an eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a dipole).  I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).  Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power and some ran at QRP (<5w).
>> 
>> I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are made over a half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by terrestrial HF users.
>> 
>> Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure maybe would reply.  Just curious.
>> 
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> * that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my K3 directly connected.
>> 
>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
>> To: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
>> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
>> Message-ID: <E5D42F71-B9CB-4E3C-A332-C82501750BC8 at blomand.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB or CW modes.
>> 
>> I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue
>> 
>> Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather negatively on the point.
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> 
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>   http://www.kl7uw.com
>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>>   dubususa at gmail.com
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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Fri Oct 19 09:19:01 2018
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 13:19:01 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <8E6ACDF4-61D8-4C17-919B-92F5022B9A4C@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A382ED5@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>,
	<8E6ACDF4-61D8-4C17-919B-92F5022B9A4C@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A3835CE@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>

That's probably a good thing because I may not like to see all that I have ordered.

:) :)

Chuck Hawley
 c-hawley at illinois.edu

 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
________________________________________
From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [eric at elecraft.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 8:10 AM
To: hawley, charles j jr
Cc: Wayne Burdick; rboutell; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up

I apologize for the confusion on this.

Yes, the new website requires registering again if you prefer it to save your info for subsequent order entry. Its a completely different secure payment processing system.

Of course we still have all of your past order and shipping info in our in-house accounting and customer support (CRM) systems.  But re-registering for the secure payment system on the website, while not required,  will certainly simplify and speed entry of your subsequent web orders.

73,
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:08 AM, hawley, charles j jr <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> I tried to log in but was informed that my email address (the one(s) I've been using for the past 18 years were invalid. So I registered new. However now it shows I never ordered anything. Are we just starting new on the books of the new website?
>
> Chuck Hawley
> c-hawley at illinois.edu
> Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>
> ________________________________________
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Wayne Burdick [n6kr at elecraft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:53 PM
> To: rboutell
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
>
>> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
>> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
>> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
>
> Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.
>
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 09:20:27 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:20:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>

Hi Dave,

When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.

73,
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
> 
> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
> 
> Thanks
> Dave wo2x
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
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From rocketnj at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 09:22:53 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:22:53 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>

Thanks Eric

I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 

Thank you
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
> 
> 73,
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> _..._
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>> 
>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Dave wo2x
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
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From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 09:24:32 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:24:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
	<71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>

Tell the front desk I suggested you talk to Rene, our lead engineering tech on the 1500.

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Eric
> 
> I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 
> 
> Thank you
> Dave wo2x
> 
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
>> _..._
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>>> 
>>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Dave wo2x
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Fri Oct 19 09:31:38 2018
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:31:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <aeba0ce9-17d5-6e19-ea90-c70eb8ee8ab0@triconet.org>

Some pictures need an aspect adjustment.

On 10/18/2018 5:51 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.?? Please take a look and 
> enjoy! 


From rocketnj at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 09:36:58 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:36:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
	<71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
	<B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>

One other thought I will test as soon as I get home in a few, 

Does the 1500 internal meter work when in standby and no keying line from radio?  I was using the amp metering and not external to check pass thru. 

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Tell the front desk I suggested you talk to Rene, our lead engineering tech on the 1500.
> 
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> _..._
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Eric
>> 
>> I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Dave wo2x
>> 
>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Eric
>>> elecraft.com
>>> _..._
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>>>> 
>>>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dave wo2x
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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>>>> 
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>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com

From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 09:51:44 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:51:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] $100 off special on KPA1500s picked up at Pacificon this
	weekend
Message-ID: <578070EE-72B6-43A2-AC06-49225BC40F1B@elecraft.com>

Since our team is driving (and not flying) to the Pacificon show in Norther CA today, we can also hand carry a small number of KPA1500s for sale and delivery at the show. (My RAV4 is stuffed full!)

As a result, since we will not need to pay shipping on these to you, we are sharing the savings and have added a $100 discount on 1500s bought and carried home from Pacificon. 

Once they are gone, additional orders will ship from the factory without this discount, so stop by the Elecraft booth early! :-)

We are looking forward to seeing everyone there later this afternoon and this weekend.  See you soon!

73,
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



From rocketnj at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 09:52:24 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (David Decoons)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:52:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
	<71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
	<B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>
	<DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5bc9e198.1c69fb81.bae83.4094@mx.google.com>

OK, here?s what?s happening.

Wattmeter in amp will NOT work unless the amp sees keying line from radio. RF passthrough still works ok but if you want to use the KPA1500 remote app as a wattmeter you need the keying line from the radio to the amp.

Any way around this, possibly with future firmware?

Dave wo2x


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dave
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:37 AM
To: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying

One other thought I will test as soon as I get home in a few, 

Does the 1500 internal meter work when in standby and no keying line from radio?  I was using the amp metering and not external to check pass thru. 

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Tell the front desk I suggested you talk to Rene, our lead engineering tech on the 1500.
> 
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> _..._
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Eric
>> 
>> I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Dave wo2x
>> 
>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Eric
>>> elecraft.com
>>> _..._
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>>>> 
>>>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dave wo2x
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> 
>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com


From eric at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 09:55:18 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:55:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
	<71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
	<B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>
	<DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01829739-F9A0-468A-8CA0-E9D8E8995772@elecraft.com>

Yes it does.

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:36 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One other thought I will test as soon as I get home in a few, 
> 
> Does the 1500 internal meter work when in standby and no keying line from radio?  I was using the amp metering and not external to check pass thru. 
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tell the front desk I suggested you talk to Rene, our lead engineering tech on the 1500.
>> 
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
>> _..._
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Eric
>>> 
>>> I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> Dave wo2x
>>> 
>>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>> 
>>>> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Eric
>>>> elecraft.com
>>>> _..._
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Dave wo2x
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com

From rocketnj at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 10:02:19 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (David Decoons)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:02:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <01829739-F9A0-468A-8CA0-E9D8E8995772@elecraft.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
	<71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
	<B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>
	<DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>
	<01829739-F9A0-468A-8CA0-E9D8E8995772@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5bc9e3eb.1c69fb81.dc366.10a8@mx.google.com>

I will call support. If I unplug the key in cable from amp the amp?s internal wattmeter does not work.

Dave wo2x


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:55 AM
To: Dave
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying

Yes it does.

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:36 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One other thought I will test as soon as I get home in a few, 
> 
> Does the 1500 internal meter work when in standby and no keying line from radio?  I was using the amp metering and not external to check pass thru. 
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tell the front desk I suggested you talk to Rene, our lead engineering tech on the 1500.
>> 
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
>> _..._
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Eric
>>> 
>>> I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> Dave wo2x
>>> 
>>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>> 
>>>> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Eric
>>>> elecraft.com
>>>> _..._
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Dave wo2x
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com


From mike.ab3ap at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 10:28:18 2018
From: mike.ab3ap at gmail.com (Mike Markowski)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:28:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CANq1pfnmRwwUbjQoPqbfsLxp-SN7Ay1B00zi40UZyYAK_1oW_w@mail.gmail.com>

I can't find the link on the new page to the 64-bit linux Elecraft
utilties.  ;-)

73,
Mike ab3ap

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:54 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> > Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
> > Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
> > I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
>
> Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will
> be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.
>
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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>
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>

From rocketnj at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 11:44:22 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (David Decoons)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:44:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying
In-Reply-To: <01829739-F9A0-468A-8CA0-E9D8E8995772@elecraft.com>
References: <5bc9c8b5.1c69fb81.d812a.c376@mx.google.com>
	<038B5469-FE75-4E5C-BBD5-8E1C6E0F616F@elecraft.com>
	<71CC45AD-ADD8-4A25-A7AC-F2CA8D154F6E@gmail.com>
	<B7B8E8B8-A08C-4750-BC7C-B630ACEB81E0@elecraft.com>
	<DF4BAECE-9339-4BC3-BA5D-7BB79AEF86B2@gmail.com>
	<01829739-F9A0-468A-8CA0-E9D8E8995772@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5bc9fbd5.1c69fb81.57681.53ed@mx.google.com>

To follow up, Rene was able to replicate the condition on the bench by removing the AUX cable from radio to amp and just applying RF when amp in standby. The internal wattmeter will not operate without the key in line.

This will be passed to the proper people in Elecraft for review.

Thanks all who made suggestions. At least I am not crazy!

Dave wo2x


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:55 AM
To: Dave
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 no RF passthrough without amp keying

Yes it does.

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:36 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One other thought I will test as soon as I get home in a few, 
> 
> Does the 1500 internal meter work when in standby and no keying line from radio?  I was using the amp metering and not external to check pass thru. 
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tell the front desk I suggested you talk to Rene, our lead engineering tech on the 1500.
>> 
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
>> _..._
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Eric
>>> 
>>> I am seeing something different and will call after they open. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> Dave wo2x
>>> 
>>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>> 
>>>> When in standby mode the KPA1500 RF deck is bypassed by a relay and absolutely passes driver power from input to antenna without any amp keying required. If you think you are seeing something different, please contact support at elecraft.com and they will help you figure it out.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Eric
>>>> elecraft.com
>>>> _..._
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found my KPA1500 does not have RF passthrough in standby unless the radio provides amp keying. Is this by design and any way to disable this ?feature??
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use a program called DDUtil which limits power out per band to prevent accidental overdrive of the amp. When DDUtil is in standby it disables the radio?s amp keying line and sets radio to 100 watts automatically. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Dave wo2x
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com


From martinjuhe at mac.com  Fri Oct 19 11:59:52 2018
From: martinjuhe at mac.com (Martin Juhe)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:59:52 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] New website
Message-ID: <C042A1E1-87DE-43E3-A4A9-095AC3911081@mac.com>

Clicking on Heil mics brings up the GEM page!

Nice site though.

73,

Martin Juhe M0XJP

Knebworth, 
Herts 
UK

See M0XJP & 2E0MJD on QRZ.com



From brianmo at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 19 12:07:00 2018
From: brianmo at yahoo.com (Brian Moran)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:07:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] New Web Site
References: <1507232935.12816272.1539965220552.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1507232935.12816272.1539965220552@mail.yahoo.com>

Nice new website layout! I'm not finding the K3 Utility for Windows in the K3/Utilities directory on the FTP server (ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Utilities), however. Was it removed intentionally?thanks,-Brian N9ADG

From wa6nhc at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 12:29:26 2018
From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:29:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] New web site
Message-ID: <c229658d-04d3-0709-55b3-105ab25ddf10@gmail.com>

The KPA1500 Remote software on the new web page downloads v1.18, not 
1.22 the current release.

I know, folks telling you this are annoying.

The new page(s) are prettier, simpler to work with (once you get the 
layout) and having it useful on a phone is a nice touch.

73,
Rick nhc


From htodd at twofifty.com  Fri Oct 19 12:45:39 2018
From: htodd at twofifty.com (Hisashi T Fujinaka)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.9999.1810190944540.1093@chris.i8u.org>

Not a huge fan of the firmware section. Too much clicking to find my old
K3, K3/0, KPA1500, etc. Lots of repeated text on the sections.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> We've just turned on the new elecraft.com web page.   Please take a look and 
> enjoy!
>
> If you have trouble accessing the site, your computer or external DNS server 
> may 
> still be waiting to update its local IP address cache.
> In general, everything should catch up over the next few hours.
>
> For those us us who don't want to wait, In Windows, if you run the 'cmd' 
> program 
> in admin mode and type " ipconfig /flushdns " that may help.
> Also clearing the cache in your browser will also help speed things.
>
> Feel free to post here if you need help finding something that has moved on 
> the 
> site.
>
> Much of our firmware, software and 3rd party control software can now be 
> found 
> under the "support" link at the top of the page.
>
> 73,
>

-- 
Hisashi T Fujinaka - htodd at twofifty.com
BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee

From brianmo at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 19 12:47:19 2018
From: brianmo at yahoo.com (Brian Moran)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:47:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior
References: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570@mail.yahoo.com>

With my early K3, I'm attempting to control the TX_INH line on the ACC Connector, and am finding this odd (to me) behavior.
Starting with the radio off, I'm driving the pin with either 0 or 5v through a 6.6K resistor per the Elecraft manual. I set the TX_INH mode to HI in the config screen, and even with the line NOT driven, TX_INH is indicated by the flashing TX in the display.
If I get out my Fluke VOM, I see that there's around 0.2v measured at pin 7... BUT THEN THE TX INHIBIT goes off (that is, it starts working as described in the manual)?? Is the TX_INH line floated in the radio? 
?Do I need to also "pull down" this line to ground through a suitable high-value resistor? 

Adding a 470K ohm to ground seems to make everything happy. If this is expected behavior (requiring pull down as well as pull up), perhaps this could be mentioned in the manual in the future (maybe it only matters to my era of K3 radio -- #512)

What makes this a little more difficult to debug is that after the line has been measured with the meter, causing it to work, TX_INH sometimes continues to work (High=inhibit, LO=tx). Until I power cycle the radio.
Anyone who has done this before have any insight?thanks,-Brian N9ADG



From ag6zz at iloc.com  Fri Oct 19 12:49:07 2018
From: ag6zz at iloc.com (Robert Morris)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:49:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker
In-Reply-To: <10942ed8719073a2f9601d142e27ccff@iloc.com>
References: <10942ed8719073a2f9601d142e27ccff@iloc.com>
Message-ID: <40fc0236c72a2cea33dfdc55bcb42c10@iloc.com>

The mail server mangled the URLS again. Try these: 

SPX3 with KX3: www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_KX3_2.JPG
SPX3 Left Oblique: www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique_2
[1].JPG [2]

 

Links:
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[1] http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_LeftOblique.JPG
[2] http://www.iloc.com/ag6zz/SPX3/AG6ZZ_SPX3_RightOblique.JPG

From w9lsl at arrl.net  Fri Oct 19 13:07:59 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (W9LSL)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:07:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking to borrow or rent a XG50
In-Reply-To: <1539949490100-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1539949490100-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1539968879198-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Found one - thanks!

Ken W9LSL 



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From ny9h at arrl.net  Fri Oct 19 13:09:12 2018
From: ny9h at arrl.net (bill steffey)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 13:09:12 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen  position....
Message-ID: <mailman.91.1539968964.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

At 06:27 PM 10/18/2018, you wrote:
>Hi Bill,
>
>Try deleting (or renaming) the preferences file, 
>"W2Prefs". It may have somehow become corrupted. 
>On Windows 7 or later it's located in:
>
>C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming




HI DAVE ,

i tried the first way   then your delete the prefs....file .no luck.

i went to displays ...and made my main display  not my main display ....

tada ,,,, i was able to move the w2 image around  ./..
back to other displays and then back to my main 
display ...and now have control.

i will now reboot and see if all stays good  , 
this all may be a result of me deleting the 'prefs' ????




thanks fior reply




>On Windows XP it's in:
>
>C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Application Data
>
>Let me know if this doesn't help and we'll try something else.
>
>David, W4SMT
>
>
>On Thursday, October 18, 2018, 10:32:58 AM EDT, 
>bill steffey <ny9h at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>
>i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot
>close it or move it.
>
>I could not find an?  "ini" file to amend the screen position.
>
>
>How do i reposition that application ( which 
>does not appear to be "installed")
>
>
>bill ny9h
>
>
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From josh at voodoolab.com  Fri Oct 19 13:40:51 2018
From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:40:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior
In-Reply-To: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<596215004.12825941.1539967639570@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2B0C27FC-126D-45A2-A415-924090EBEBC2@voodoolab.com>

Yes, floating. Indeterminate if feature enabled & line not set externally. 

(Guess how I know..? hi)

73
Josh W6XU

Sent from my mobile device

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Brian Moran via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> With my early K3, I'm attempting to control the TX_INH line on the ACC Connector, and am finding this odd (to me) behavior.
> Starting with the radio off, I'm driving the pin with either 0 or 5v through a 6.6K resistor per the Elecraft manual. I set the TX_INH mode to HI in the config screen, and even with the line NOT driven, TX_INH is indicated by the flashing TX in the display.
> If I get out my Fluke VOM, I see that there's around 0.2v measured at pin 7... BUT THEN THE TX INHIBIT goes off (that is, it starts working as described in the manual)?  Is the TX_INH line floated in the radio? 
>  Do I need to also "pull down" this line to ground through a suitable high-value resistor? 
> 
> Adding a 470K ohm to ground seems to make everything happy. If this is expected behavior (requiring pull down as well as pull up), perhaps this could be mentioned in the manual in the future (maybe it only matters to my era of K3 radio -- #512)
> 
> What makes this a little more difficult to debug is that after the line has been measured with the meter, causing it to work, TX_INH sometimes continues to work (High=inhibit, LO=tx). Until I power cycle the radio.
> Anyone who has done this before have any insight?thanks,-Brian N9ADG
> 


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 14:04:05 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:04:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] New website link for the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and
	accessories
Message-ID: <1B950F93-98A4-4699-A10C-FF1DD4B40A3F@elecraft.com>

Now that the new website is online, the AX1 product page has a new link:

    https://elecraft.com/products/ax1-antenna

73,
Wayne
N6KR



From donanddeena at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 19 14:13:03 2018
From: donanddeena at hotmail.com (Don Schroder)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 18:13:03 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] New web pages
Message-ID: <MW2PR02MB38492E26F6BD201080C097FFAAF90@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi,

I am assembling a K2 kit, serial #7818. I decided that I want to order the KIO2 RS-232 Interface and Aux I/0<https://elecraftcom.myshopify.com/admin/products/146846089227?show_all_images=true>  so I clicked on the link. It took me to this link; https://elecraftcom.myshopify.com/admin/auth/login . So, I then entered my email & password, and it created my store! I don?t have a store!

Can?t order the interface, thought you?d like to know.

73, Don, KE0PVQ

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From charlestropp at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 14:35:51 2018
From: charlestropp at gmail.com (Charles Tropp)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:35:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New web pages
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR02MB38492E26F6BD201080C097FFAAF90@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MW2PR02MB38492E26F6BD201080C097FFAAF90@MW2PR02MB3849.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEA2n_dB670UYNwDt6tCawjkc6o_M+77YPBqph7hgDsDu92t-A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Don,

On the home page of the new web site you might want to click on *Products,
Transceivers, K2, * then scroll down and hover your mouse over the *Price
List/Order *and when it turns Red click on the link. Then click on K2
Options on the next window, place a check mark next to the KIO2 line and
scroll down again and click on *add to cart. *In the next window press the
box in red marked *Checkout. *Follow the remaining instructions and your in
business. You will love the option, by the way. I just added one to my K2.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:13 PM Don Schroder <donanddeena at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am assembling a K2 kit, serial #7818. I decided that I want to order the
> KIO2 RS-232 Interface and Aux I/0<
> https://elecraftcom.myshopify.com/admin/products/146846089227?show_all_images=true>
> so I clicked on the link. It took me to this link;
> https://elecraftcom.myshopify.com/admin/auth/login . So, I then entered
> my email & password, and it created my store! I don?t have a store!
>
> Can?t order the interface, thought you?d like to know.
>
> 73, Don, KE0PVQ
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 19 15:45:36 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:45:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior
In-Reply-To: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<596215004.12825941.1539967639570@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <62b7f398-fe35-f3b1-bc8c-971f78d19a1e@embarqmail.com>

Brian,

That is not how you implement a pull-up resistor.

Connect one end of the resistor to a +5 volt source.  Connect the other 
end to the TX INH pin.
Then connect the control line between the TX INH pin and ground.
If the control line is an open circuit when it should be inhibiting, set 
the TX INH menu to inhibit on high.
OTOH, if the control line is closed circuit while inhibiting, set the TX 
INH to inhibit on low.

You don't have to put the pullup resistor right at the ACC connector, it 
can be (and should be) near the contacts which control the open/short 
contacts.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/19/2018 12:47 PM, Brian Moran via Elecraft wrote:
> With my early K3, I'm attempting to control the TX_INH line on the ACC Connector, and am finding this odd (to me) behavior.
> Starting with the radio off, I'm driving the pin with either 0 or 5v through a 6.6K resistor per the Elecraft manual. I set the TX_INH mode to HI in the config screen, and even with the line NOT driven, TX_INH is indicated by the flashing TX in the display.
> If I get out my Fluke VOM, I see that there's around 0.2v measured at pin 7... BUT THEN THE TX INHIBIT goes off (that is, it starts working as described in the manual)?? Is the TX_INH line floated in the radio?
>  ?Do I need to also "pull down" this line to ground through a suitable high-value resistor?
> 
> Adding a 470K ohm to ground seems to make everything happy. If this is expected behavior (requiring pull down as well as pull up), perhaps this could be mentioned in the manual in the future (maybe it only matters to my era of K3 radio -- #512)
> 

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Oct 19 15:58:28 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:58:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <2f0347bd-1793-1fcc-532b-a657c26a8d4e@foothill.net>

Great site!? A real improvement, very professional.? Couple of nitnoy 
things:

1.? On the front page, the K2 is titled "FULL KITS."? Elsewhere [as in 
ordering, it's titled "FULL SOLDER KITS.

2.? I can't find a "Home" link from Products.? Browser-back works however.

I looked through all the pages, thanks for minimizing the color coding 
for those of us who don't see the colors.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/18/2018 7:53 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
>> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
>> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
> Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.
>
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>


From k4to.dave at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 16:20:59 2018
From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:20:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f0347bd-1793-1fcc-532b-a657c26a8d4e@foothill.net>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<2f0347bd-1793-1fcc-532b-a657c26a8d4e@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <CAKynJK=XLbJbMiBi4epmAXb2DeC_1oa0zOi7fuV39HwJcBueNA@mail.gmail.com>

I tried to register and it said I was already registered.  I'm not
complaining, but I thought the info might be useful to the website managers.

I didn't tried to see if any of my prior order history was there.

Dave, K4TO

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 3:58 PM Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:

> Great site!  A real improvement, very professional.  Couple of nitnoy
> things:
>
> 1.  On the front page, the K2 is titled "FULL KITS."  Elsewhere [as in
> ordering, it's titled "FULL SOLDER KITS.
>
> 2.  I can't find a "Home" link from Products.  Browser-back works however.
>
> I looked through all the pages, thanks for minimizing the color coding
> for those of us who don't see the colors.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 10/18/2018 7:53 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> >> Here are a couple things I'm having trouble finding:
> >> Builder resources: kit advice, soldering tips, etc
> >> I saw eham reviews, didn't see ARRL or rig comparison chart.
> > Thanks for all the input, gang...please keep it coming. We know there
> will be lots of minor (and some major) improvements to make as time permits.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
>
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From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk  Fri Oct 19 16:35:42 2018
From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:35:42 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <CAKynJK=XLbJbMiBi4epmAXb2DeC_1oa0zOi7fuV39HwJcBueNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<2f0347bd-1793-1fcc-532b-a657c26a8d4e@foothill.net>
	<CAKynJK=XLbJbMiBi4epmAXb2DeC_1oa0zOi7fuV39HwJcBueNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <129f7f35-6e2e-1d54-bace-cb8605556376@horizon.co.fk>

The "Get Support" form rejected my phone number as incorrect format. No 
information on what it didn't like or what was expected, US domestic 
probably.

My standard format is:

+{country code}sp{number} eg. +500 12345

Not a problem on other sites.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Oct 19 17:07:42 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:07:42 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Pacificon talk on NorCal 40 tonight at 7
Message-ID: <379CCF3F-DD18-4BB3-9A65-695FA08FA27A@elecraft.com>

To everyone planning to be at Pacificon: A reminder that Doug Hendrix (KI6DS) and I will be doing a presentation tonight on the Norcal 40 transceiver to mark its 25th anniversary (as well as that of the Norcal QRP club). 

Details: Danville room, 7 PM

Cake will be served.

If applicable, bring your own Norcal 40 or Norcal 40A for a group photo.

73,
Wayne
And six




----
http://www.elecraft.com

From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 17:14:34 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:14:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <CAKynJK=XLbJbMiBi4epmAXb2DeC_1oa0zOi7fuV39HwJcBueNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<2f0347bd-1793-1fcc-532b-a657c26a8d4e@foothill.net>
	<CAKynJK=XLbJbMiBi4epmAXb2DeC_1oa0zOi7fuV39HwJcBueNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12BA90B0-5CA4-49F7-95F3-B88E2F263CF0@gmail.com>

When I tried to register, it didn?t recognize me.  soo ? I registered again.  Matters not.

It seems to me ? to reduce the ongoing clog on this list ? that a separate email address to report  website-related  issues might be useful.  I have a few, too, but really don?t want to fill the list with them.

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> 
> I tried to register and it said I was already registered.  I'm not
> complaining, but I thought the info might be useful to the website managers.
> 


From dale at ldeo.columbia.edu  Fri Oct 19 17:24:51 2018
From: dale at ldeo.columbia.edu (Dale Chayes)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 13:24:51 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Comments on Elecraft's web page....
In-Reply-To: <12BA90B0-5CA4-49F7-95F3-B88E2F263CF0@gmail.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
	<1539916856070-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1676F819-95BE-4471-99D1-515DAE02F754@elecraft.com>
	<2f0347bd-1793-1fcc-532b-a657c26a8d4e@foothill.net>
	<CAKynJK=XLbJbMiBi4epmAXb2DeC_1oa0zOi7fuV39HwJcBueNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<12BA90B0-5CA4-49F7-95F3-B88E2F263CF0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BB1949D8-65BD-47B0-AEFE-A310B1B8F4AD@ldeo.columbia.edu>

I noticed that at the top of the (new?) Elecraft web page there is a ?Contact Us? link.

If you go there (and scroll down a bit, past the contact form) you can find an email address to contact the Elecraft webmaster:

webmaster at elecraft.com

I have not had occasion to test this feature, but is seems like a better option than this list server.

-Dale



From K5EJK at Kluft.US  Sat Oct 20 09:40:22 2018
From: K5EJK at Kluft.US (Ernie Kluft)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:40:22 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Units For Sale
Message-ID: <mailman.93.1540042872.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>



	When I first got my K-Line I went a little nuts and also bought two 
W2 units....
	I no longer use them in my system, so after residing in my closet for awhile,
	they are now for sale...

	W2 with 2,000 watt sensor and USB interface cable   $250

	W2 with 200 watt sensor, without interface cable    $200

	Both are in perfect cosmetic and operational condition, and I don't smoke...
	Serious offers will be considered... Check or PayPal...  Ernie


From kstover at ac0h.net  Sat Oct 20 10:52:38 2018
From: kstover at ac0h.net (kstover at ac0h.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:52:38 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT100 Tuner
Message-ID: <001301d46884$8c3e1e40$a4ba5ac0$@ac0h.net>

I must have missed it but I am getting ready to order a KX Line and don't
see the KXAT100 option.

R. Kevin Stover    AC0H

ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
"If it doesn't work the first time you push the button it won't work the
20th.Just stop."



From n6tv at arrl.net  Sat Oct 20 12:10:37 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:10:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior
In-Reply-To: <62b7f398-fe35-f3b1-bc8c-971f78d19a1e@embarqmail.com>
References: <596215004.12825941.1539967639570.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<596215004.12825941.1539967639570@mail.yahoo.com>
	<62b7f398-fe35-f3b1-bc8c-971f78d19a1e@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKG+qke+SZ_fo5qaSxVb0LGOB2+vSMpzSy8wN+FwcdEQN3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Don is correct.

FYI, after looking over the K3 schematics with N6KR at Visalia many years
ago, we came up with a safe and simple "SO2R" lockout circuit (given two
K3s) that is documented here:

https://bit.ly/K3lockout

The 470 ohm resistor is a safety feature designed to prevent a potential
short of 5V to ground if TX INH is set back to the default position (OFF,
which resets Pin 7 as a "K3 ON" signal with +5V), and then another K3
shorts that PIN to ground.

This simple lockout circuit is implemented in the Y-BOX
<https://bit.ly/Y-BOX> as a convenience option (two Y-BOXs required).  The
"CW and Phone" version uses the FSK line (Pin 1) to get the +5V, so no
external power supply is required, but that precludes the use of that pin
for FSK RTTY.

If you want to both FSK RTTY keying and a lockout, the Y-BOX also makes it
easy to connect an external +5V source, giving you an "all mode" lockout
circuit.

See the following for wiring examples.

   - Simple SO2R Lockout Circuit for CW and Phone
   <https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Y-BOX/Features.html#SimpleLockout>
   - Simple SO2R Lockout Circuit for All Modes Including FSK
   <https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Y-BOX/Features.html#FSKLockout>

The 5V *regulated* linear power supply that I highly recommend for the
latter implementation is Jameco P/N 1953612
<https://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&freeText=1953612&langId=-1&productId=1953612&storeId=10001&>
.

Be advised that these are not sophisticated "first one wins" or "last one
wins" lockout circuits.  If both radios try to transmit at the same time,
*neither* will be able to transmit.  That's because the KEY OUT line will
still close, even when a radio is inhibited from transmitting any RF, and
that locks out the other radio.

In way, that's a good thing, because both operators hear what is going on.
It is also makes it impossible for both rigs to transmit at the same time,
for even 1 ms, so you can safely power two K3s with a single 25A power
supply.  This lockout system works safely with all potential keying methods
including internal and external keying, K3 memories, KY commands, VOX
tripping, etc.  Other lockout systems using SO2R boxes or software commands
cannot provide the same safety.

But, attempting to give one radio "priority" by opening its TX INH line
does not work very well.  If a K3 is currently transmitting when its
Inhibit pin goes low, it takes approximately 10-500 ms before the RF
actually stops, so using a single power supply is no longer safe (it can
overload briefly), and there is technically a contest rules violation
because it's possible for both radios to transmit at the same time (though
briefly).

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:46 PM Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That is not how you implement a pull-up resistor.
>
> Connect one end of the resistor to a +5 volt source.  Connect the other
> end to the TX INH pin.
> Then connect the control line between the TX INH pin and ground.
> If the control line is an open circuit when it should be inhibiting, set
> the TX INH menu to inhibit on high.
> OTOH, if the control line is closed circuit while inhibiting, set the TX
> INH to inhibit on low.
>
> You don't have to put the pullup resistor right at the ACC connector, it
> can be (and should be) near the contacts which control the open/short
> contacts.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/19/2018 12:47 PM, Brian Moran via Elecraft wrote:
> > With my early K3, I'm attempting to control the TX_INH line on the ACC
> Connector, and am finding this odd (to me) behavior.
> > Starting with the radio off, I'm driving the pin with either 0 or 5v
> through a 6.6K resistor per the Elecraft manual. I set the TX_INH mode to
> HI in the config screen, and even with the line NOT driven, TX_INH is
> indicated by the flashing TX in the display.
> > If I get out my Fluke VOM, I see that there's around 0.2v measured at
> pin 7... BUT THEN THE TX INHIBIT goes off (that is, it starts working as
> described in the manual)?  Is the TX_INH line floated in the radio?
> >   Do I need to also "pull down" this line to ground through a suitable
> high-value resistor?
> >
> > Adding a 470K ohm to ground seems to make everything happy. If this is
> expected behavior (requiring pull down as well as pull up), perhaps this
> could be mentioned in the manual in the future (maybe it only matters to my
> era of K3 radio -- #512)
> >
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From dj0qn at gmx.de  Sat Oct 20 15:06:58 2018
From: dj0qn at gmx.de (Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:06:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for a PR6-10
Message-ID: <70b55906-be4c-e6f5-b651-5fa912abf554@gmx.de>

I still need one more PR6-10 to replace the PR6 in another K3. If anyone 
has a PR6-10 (not PR6!) preamp that you no longer need, please send me 
an offer via direct mail. If you upgraded to a KXV3B and had one before, 
then you no longer need it (it is included).

This can be shipped to either an address in Florida or in Germany.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX

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From K5EJK at Kluft.US  Sat Oct 20 15:48:16 2018
From: K5EJK at Kluft.US (Ernie Kluft)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:48:16 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Units For Sale
Message-ID: <mailman.95.1540064946.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

	

	The 200 W W2 has been sold and shipped....  Thanks, Ernie


From jrhallas at optonline.net  Sat Oct 20 15:53:10 2018
From: jrhallas at optonline.net (Joel Hallas)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:53:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 "Wake on LAN"
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3513.1539967545.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.3513.1539967545.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000301d468ae$8773abd0$965b0370$@net>

Dear Elecraft,

With KPA1500 s/n 400, the serial connected Utility program can remotely
power the amp up and down, however, the LAN connected Remote program can't
seem to (arguably more important). 

In either Local Connect or Host Connect modes, it says "Power Button is
Disabled because Wake on Lan is Disabled". The host connect mode says Wake
on Lan (WON) will take some seconds to awake, but it doesn't.

Does anyone know how to enable WON??

Thanks much!
 
Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT





From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 20 17:17:55 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:17:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT100 Tuner
In-Reply-To: <001301d46884$8c3e1e40$a4ba5ac0$@ac0h.net>
References: <001301d46884$8c3e1e40$a4ba5ac0$@ac0h.net>
Message-ID: <cfffb40b-f0b5-22ff-562f-eb6e76888af8@embarqmail.com>

Kevin,

The new website has a few wrinkles that are in the process of being 
ironed out.  I suggest you call 831-763-4211 Monday after 8AM Pacific 
time and talk to the sales folks to place your order.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/20/2018 10:52 AM, kstover at ac0h.net wrote:
> I must have missed it but I am getting ready to order a KX Line and don't
> see the KXAT100 option.
>
> R. Kevin Stover    AC0H
>
> ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
> "If it doesn't work the first time you push the button it won't work the
> 20th.Just stop."
>
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Sat Oct 20 17:21:50 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:21:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 
and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button 
immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the 
radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has 
stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT 
command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent 
or is not being processed by the radio.

Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT 
interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.

The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 
interface from the K3S.

The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home 
brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".

The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

73 Bill AE6JV

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not 
eloquence, it is force; like
408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful 
master. Never for a
www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible 
action. Geo Washington


From rich at wc3t.us  Sat Oct 20 17:46:17 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:46:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <CABYU7Wik56ciY8y0Ok0qGH9ca6h5K2kGut+m1f3QWGRh0h9BTA@mail.gmail.com>

What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:

> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
> or is not being processed by the radio.
>
> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>
> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
> interface from the K3S.
>
> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>
> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not
> eloquence, it is force; like
> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
> master. Never for a
> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible
> action. Geo Washington
>
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*FN20is*

From rna at mosslight.com  Sat Oct 20 18:26:32 2018
From: rna at mosslight.com (Robert Albano)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:26:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <BD0044BA-8317-4F58-973C-76DBA4818477@mosslight.com>

I have the same behavior:
KX3
PX3
SignaLink
MacBook Pro
CAT interface

> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
> 
> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
> 
> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S.
> 
> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
> 
> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like
> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a
> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington
> 
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From rna at mosslight.com  Sat Oct 20 18:35:25 2018
From: rna at mosslight.com (Robert Albano)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:35:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <BD0044BA-8317-4F58-973C-76DBA4818477@mosslight.com>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<BD0044BA-8317-4F58-973C-76DBA4818477@mosslight.com>
Message-ID: <7DA4B4F9-62BB-4154-BFAE-BCC33C570DA1@mosslight.com>

Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.

Should MIC BIAS be off as well?

73 Robert K7RNA

> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same behavior:
> KX3
> PX3
> SignaLink
> MacBook Pro
> CAT interface
> 
>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
>> 
>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>> 
>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S.
>> 
>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>> 
>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like
>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a
>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington
>> 
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sat Oct 20 19:52:46 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:52:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7Wik56ciY8y0Ok0qGH9ca6h5K2kGut+m1f3QWGRh0h9BTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<CABYU7Wik56ciY8y0Ok0qGH9ca6h5K2kGut+m1f3QWGRh0h9BTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <80448A6E-35D2-465E-A776-121E91753C70@widomaker.com>

Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface and VOX settings. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
> 
> What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
>> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
>> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
>> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
>> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
>> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
>> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
>> or is not being processed by the radio.
>> 
>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
>> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>> 
>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
>> interface from the K3S.
>> 
>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
>> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>> 
>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not
>> eloquence, it is force; like
>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
>> master. Never for a
>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible
>> action. Geo Washington
>> 
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sat Oct 20 19:54:47 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:54:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <7DA4B4F9-62BB-4154-BFAE-BCC33C570DA1@mosslight.com>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<BD0044BA-8317-4F58-973C-76DBA4818477@mosslight.com>
	<7DA4B4F9-62BB-4154-BFAE-BCC33C570DA1@mosslight.com>
Message-ID: <4082411C-BD2B-46B1-91C7-BB3B0C7E2D7F@widomaker.com>

MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has NO other use. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
> 
> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.
> 
> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
> 
> 73 Robert K7RNA
> 
>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same behavior:
>> KX3
>> PX3
>> SignaLink
>> MacBook Pro
>> CAT interface
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
>>> 
>>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>> 
>>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S.
>>> 
>>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>> 
>>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>> 
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like
>>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a
>>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington
>>> 
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sat Oct 20 20:30:53 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:30:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <80448A6E-35D2-465E-A776-121E91753C70@widomaker.com>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<CABYU7Wik56ciY8y0Ok0qGH9ca6h5K2kGut+m1f3QWGRh0h9BTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<80448A6E-35D2-465E-A776-121E91753C70@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <9041101d-16fd-81dd-67b9-9b267c605686@blomand.net>

Yes, use only method for PTT.?? Either CAT or VOX,? but never both.?? I 
prefer CAT as, for digital operation,? I don't have to mess with the VOX 
values for my normal SSB operation.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/20/2018 6:52 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface and VOX settings.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
>>
>> What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
>>> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
>>> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
>>> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
>>> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
>>> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
>>> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
>>> or is not being processed by the radio.
>>>
>>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
>>> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>>
>>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
>>> interface from the K3S.
>>>
>>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
>>> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>>
>>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>>
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not
>>> eloquence, it is force; like
>>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
>>> master. Never for a
>>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible
>>> action. Geo Washington
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From Gary at ka1j.com  Sat Oct 20 20:39:06 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:39:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3
Message-ID: <5BCBCAAA.7627.A086C8A@Gary.ka1j.com>

I noticed CW stations were a bit off from 
the P3 and thought I needed to 
re-calibrate the P3 again. I did so and 
still encountered issues. I have the 
K3EXREF installed and it has been working 
fine for some time now with the GPSDO 10 
MHz source.

On a hunch I looked at the K3 REF CAL 
results and the asterisk is not flashing. 
I rebooted the GPSDO and the K3 but no 
asterisk. I checked the cables and all are 
intact. I pressed the #2 button for XREF 
IN & no change, same if I tap it again for 
XREFOUT.

It's either the GPSDO failed, the K3EXREF 
board has failed or something else.

Any suggestions?

73,

Gary
KA1J

From rboutell at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 20 22:42:02 2018
From: rboutell at hotmail.com (rboutell)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:42:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up
In-Reply-To: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
References: <2f73e00e-e7d3-a074-3d18-772d0d6038f0@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1540089722972-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

For those not familiar, if you need to see something from the old website,
you can see a snapshot at:
www.wayback.com
Here is a sample, the latest snapshot:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181013181827/http://www.elecraft.com/



-----
73, Russ - W9RB
--
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From edouard at lafargue.name  Sat Oct 20 23:44:32 2018
From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:44:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Ax1 fun
Message-ID: <CAJVEXsWHRQ_=odVuqCtaxdouBusTvsCo72YCB1CKWJO2hC9nPw@mail.gmail.com>

Brought my KX3 on a day hike in Donner Pass (California) today, and fired
it up on a small peak (George R. Stewart Peak) with the AX1 whip and its
counterpoise.

Within 10 minutes, got QSOs over ssb with the state of New York, Florida
and... Bonaire. Pretty cool on a short whip, 10 watts and a bit of luck!

Great job, Elecraft :-)

73 de Ed w6ela

From k7sss at aol.com  Sat Oct 20 23:56:57 2018
From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Possible Use on 10 Meters?
References: <2121108414.13432266.1540094217123.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2121108414.13432266.1540094217123@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
I have an AX1 on order. My question is it possible to use it on 10 meters?I assume you would have to have the switch in the 15/17 meters position, use the counterpoise wire and shorten up the whip. Plus use an ATU to help the ant work. Just an idea.73Jim Hk7sss

From netbsd21 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 00:09:59 2018
From: netbsd21 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:09:59 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 "Wake on LAN"
In-Reply-To: <000301d468ae$8773abd0$965b0370$@net>
References: <mailman.3513.1539967545.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<000301d468ae$8773abd0$965b0370$@net>
Message-ID: <0aa2c11d-d0a2-2662-0338-4e2220194fc1@gmail.com>

Joel,

For "wake on LAN" to work the network adapters on each end of the LAN or 
WAN connection (wired or wireless) have to be set to send and receive 
"wake on LAN" packets.  If the "powered off" machine is to be awakened 
then the network adapter that controls it has to be set to receive a 
wake on LAN packet AND also to allow the network adapter to then power 
on the machine.  Once the network adapter is set then any machine on the 
LAN that can send a magic packet can also power on the machine. 
Likewise the machine that is waking up the "powered off" machine also 
has to have it's network adapter enabled for wake on LAN and set to send 
the wake on LAN "magic packet" to wake up properly configured machines.

You didn't specify what OS you are using but I'll assume it's some sort 
of Windows. To set wake on LAN, go to control panel > network and 
sharing center.  There you should find a link on the left side that says 
"change adapter settings".  Click on "change adapter settings" and all 
your wired and wireless "network connections" should appear.  Then right 
click on the wireless or wired "network connection" that you are using 
for your LAN on that specific machine and select properties from the 
menu.  This will pull up an applet that lists your exact network adapter 
by manufacturer at the top and a configure button just below.  (Do not 
mess with your TCP/IP settings further down) Select the configure 
button, and yet another applet will appear.  At the top of that applet 
are several tabs.  Under the "advanced" tab ensure "wake on magic 
packet" and "wake on pattern match" are both enabled.  These two are at 
the bottom of the options list and you may have to scroll down to find 
them.  Then under the power management tab ensure "allow this device to 
wake the computer" is check marked and under that select "only allow 
magic packet to wake the computer" if so desired.  Then click ok.  This 
configuration will need to be done on the appropriate network adapter 
for all the machines you want to work with wake on LAN.

That should get your hardware on both machines in a state where they 
will work for wake on LAN operations and wake on LAN software.  Now if 
there is a configuration issue or bug in the remote access software... 
sorry but I can't help with that.

Good luck.

Scott
AD5HS

On 10/20/2018 2:53 PM, Joel Hallas wrote:
> Dear Elecraft,
> 
> With KPA1500 s/n 400, the serial connected Utility program can remotely
> power the amp up and down, however, the LAN connected Remote program can't
> seem to (arguably more important).
> 
> In either Local Connect or Host Connect modes, it says "Power Button is
> Disabled because Wake on Lan is Disabled". The host connect mode says Wake
> on Lan (WON) will take some seconds to awake, but it doesn't.
> 
> Does anyone know how to enable WON??
> 
> Thanks much!
>   
> Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
> Westport, CT
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com  Sun Oct 21 00:11:03 2018
From: nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com (Niel Skousen)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:11:03 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Possible Use on 10 Meters?
In-Reply-To: <2121108414.13432266.1540094217123@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2121108414.13432266.1540094217123.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2121108414.13432266.1540094217123@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <16140BC5-D2DA-427C-91C0-1EC4F575FCD3@ecsecurityinc.com>

Wayne has the definitive answer, but I believe he?s used it on several other bands, up to 6m

Niel
WA7SSA

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 9:56 PM, Jim H via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have an AX1 on order. My question is it possible to use it on 10 meters?I assume you would have to have the switch in the 15/17 meters position, use the counterpoise wire and shorten up the whip. Plus use an ATU to help the ant work. Just an idea.73Jim Hk7sss
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Oct 21 00:57:48 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 21:57:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? A sunny, warm week kept me busy outside.? Lots of colors but the 
mild weather slowed the mushrooms.? The hunters keep driving by but 
between the local clear cutting and the private land they're not finding 
anything.? They need to stop following the roads along the ridges and 
hike into the valleys.? Good cover with lots of elk and a few bear.

 ?? A solar wind is due but it's already behind schedule. Tomorrow is 
the last weekend before the time change.? I normally keep the same local 
time and change the UTC? schedule.? That change moves the 40 meter net 
to after dark for all of us.? 20 meters is also effected because some of 
the country is already getting dark which changes propagation.? With the 
solar minimum almost upon us it might be better to have both nets 
earlier in the day.? Further thought is necessary.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

_


From wunder at wunderwood.org  Sun Oct 21 02:28:49 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:28:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <4082411C-BD2B-46B1-91C7-BB3B0C7E2D7F@widomaker.com>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<BD0044BA-8317-4F58-973C-76DBA4818477@mosslight.com>
	<7DA4B4F9-62BB-4154-BFAE-BCC33C570DA1@mosslight.com>
	<4082411C-BD2B-46B1-91C7-BB3B0C7E2D7F@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <A54F9C5C-E7D7-4AE4-BD03-9541F71E7868@wunderwood.org>

I think the mic bias is automatically disabled in DATA A mode. But I might be wrong. 

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com> wrote:
> 
> MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has NO other use. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.
>> 
>> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
>> 
>> 73 Robert K7RNA
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same behavior:
>>> KX3
>>> PX3
>>> SignaLink
>>> MacBook Pro
>>> CAT interface
>>> 
>>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
>>>> 
>>>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>>> 
>>>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S.
>>>> 
>>>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>>> 
>>>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>>> 
>>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>>> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like
>>>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a
>>>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington
>>>> 
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Sun Oct 21 02:56:22 2018
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:56:22 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior
Message-ID: <201810210656.w9L6uO4n018734@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

Brian,

Page 19  of K3 manual near bottom of second column tells what you 
need to know.  Using TX INH set to HI=inh you apply about 5v to keep 
radio inhibited from transmitting.  To active TX you take line 7 = LO 
(ground).  Elecraft shows how you can wire +12V thru a 2.2k to 10K 
resistor to provide 5v to pin 7 (6.6K probably will be fine to do 
this).  You need to ground pin 7 to enable RF OUT IN TX.

Or provide 5v to pin 7 thru a 1K resistor and ground pin 7 to 
TX.  The resistor limits current when the line is grounded;
See:  http://www.kl7uw.com/TX-INHIBIT.htm

pin 7 needs to be HI=5v or LO=grounded.  Leaving pin 7 unterminated 
(floating) will result in erratic operation.

73, Ed - KL7UW
------------------------------------------


From: Brian Moran <brianmo at yahoo.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior


With my early K3, I'm attempting to control the TX_INH line on the 
ACC Connector, and am finding this odd (to me) behavior.
Starting with the radio off, I'm driving the pin with either 0 or 5v 
through a 6.6K resistor per the Elecraft manual. I set the TX_INH 
mode to HI in the config screen, and even with the line NOT driven, 
TX_INH is indicated by the flashing TX in the display.
If I get out my Fluke VOM, I see that there's around 0.2v measured at 
pin 7... BUT THEN THE TX INHIBIT goes off (that is, it starts working 
as described in the manual)?? Is the TX_INH line floated in the radio?
?Do I need to also "pull down" this line to ground through a suitable 
high-value resistor?

Adding a 470K ohm to ground seems to make everything happy. If this 
is expected behavior (requiring pull down as well as pull up), 
perhaps this could be mentioned in the manual in the future (maybe it 
only matters to my era of K3 radio -- #512)

What makes this a little more difficult to debug is that after the 
line has been measured with the meter, causing it to work, TX_INH 
sometimes continues to work (High=inhibit, LO=tx). Until I power 
cycle the radio.
Anyone who has done this before have any insight?thanks,-Brian N9ADG


73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
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   dubususa at gmail.com 


From brian.waterworth at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 06:43:05 2018
From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 06:43:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <A54F9C5C-E7D7-4AE4-BD03-9541F71E7868@wunderwood.org>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-932163CD6F3E4E78935569ABBDB20678@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<BD0044BA-8317-4F58-973C-76DBA4818477@mosslight.com>
	<7DA4B4F9-62BB-4154-BFAE-BCC33C570DA1@mosslight.com>
	<4082411C-BD2B-46B1-91C7-BB3B0C7E2D7F@widomaker.com>
	<A54F9C5C-E7D7-4AE4-BD03-9541F71E7868@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <CAM34cKcT=8z7df+h2i2ciBG9AQV+k90_bEMaKXRbvjTXEwKurA@mail.gmail.com>

It is not disabled automatically in Data A mode.   I have looked and if I
don?t set it purposefully it will remain at the last setting per band.  I
have macros that I use to toggle between voice operation and digital
modes.  I set the mic bias and mic btn menu items accordingly.

Happy to proven wrong as I could then shorten my macros.  But I have
experimented and what I have written is based on my observations of the
menu settings.   Also, I found nothing in the KX3 operation manual to
indicate mic bias or btn are disabled on Data A mode.

Regards
Brian
VE3IBW

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:30 AM Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
wrote:

> I think the mic bias is automatically disabled in DATA A mode. But I might
> be wrong.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com> wrote:
> >
> > MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias
> has NO other use.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3
> as well.
> >>
> >> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
> >>
> >> 73 Robert K7RNA
> >>
> >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have the same behavior:
> >>> KX3
> >>> PX3
> >>> SignaLink
> >>> MacBook Pro
> >>> CAT interface
> >>>
> >>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and
> KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops
> transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit
> mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the
> "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the
> CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is
> not being processed by the radio.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface,
> like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface
> from the K3S.
> >>>>
> >>>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew
> audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
> >>>>
> >>>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
> >>>>
> >>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence,
> it is force; like
> >>>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
> master. Never for a
> >>>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible
> action. Geo Washington
> >>>>
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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Sun Oct 21 09:06:07 2018
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:06:07 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
In-Reply-To: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>
References: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>
Message-ID: <276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>

The time changes on Nov 4th. Seems later than last Fall...

Chuck 
 Amateur Radio, KE9UW

________________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of kevinr [kevinr at coho.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 11:57 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

Good Evening,

    A sunny, warm week kept me busy outside.  Lots of colors but the
mild weather slowed the mushrooms.  The hunters keep driving by but
between the local clear cutting and the private land they're not finding
anything.  They need to stop following the roads along the ridges and
hike into the valleys.  Good cover with lots of elk and a few bear.

    A solar wind is due but it's already behind schedule. Tomorrow is
the last weekend before the time change.  I normally keep the same local
time and change the UTC  schedule.  That change moves the 40 meter net
to after dark for all of us.  20 meters is also effected because some of
the country is already getting dark which changes propagation.  With the
solar minimum almost upon us it might be better to have both nets
earlier in the day.  Further thought is necessary.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
   7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Sun Oct 21 09:26:33 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 06:26:33 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
In-Reply-To: <276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-285E317BBF39451B9022FB820D242734@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

The time changes just after halloween. It was moved to that date 
fairly recently to try to protect the small children out on the 
streets trick or treating. (The big ones have always gone out 
after dark.)

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/21/18 at 6:06 AM, c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j 
jr) wrote:

>The time changes on Nov 4th. Seems later than last Fall...
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From raysills3 at verizon.net  Sun Oct 21 10:14:42 2018
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Raymond Sills)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:14:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10136i-285E317BBF39451B9022FB820D242734@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <16696fa5d0e-1ebf-37a1@webjas-vac198.srv.aolmail.net>

Yes... these days, the change is on the first Sunday in November... so the date will be Nov 1st to Nov 7th.  Next year it'll be on the 5th.  Of course, it gets bumped an extra day in leap years.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211




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To: elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 9:27 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

The time changes just after halloween. It was moved to that date fairly recently to try to protect the small children out on the streets trick or treating. (The big ones have always gone out after dark.)73 Bill AE6JVOn 10/21/18 at 6:06 AM, c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr) wrote:>The time changes on Nov 4th. Seems later than last Fall...------------------------------------------------------------------------Bill Frantz        |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to408-356-8506       | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they arewww.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.? -- Einstein______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to raysills3 at verizon.net

From bob at hogbytes.com  Sun Oct 21 10:51:46 2018
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 07:51:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Change history in New Web Site
Message-ID: <1540133506609-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Does anyone know where firmware change history is located in new web site?



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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 11:01:58 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Change history in New Web Site
In-Reply-To: <1540133506609-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540133506609-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <A3E6C920-539D-4FCE-A7E1-6A970CE0FFE9@gmail.com>

It?s on the firmware page, just not shown explicitly as a link (something that should probably be changed).

Go to the firmware page (e.g., for the K3S/K3) and under the heading ?current Production Firmware Release Notes?, there?s a link in the second bullet ?See firmware Release Notes?.  Your cursor will find it ? at ?Firmware Release Notes?

Grant NQ5T

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where firmware change history is located in new web site?
> 
> 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Oct 21 11:04:58 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:04:58 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
Message-ID: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>

Hi Jim,

The 17 meter switch position allows efficient operation with an ATU on 17 and 15 meters. While it may be possible to achieve a low SWR on higher bands, the losses would be higher. 

A better approach would be to build a different base unit with smaller inductors. For example a 10 and 6 meter version would work very well on both bands. Let?s call it an AX1B for discussion purposes. This might appeal to Technician class licensees in particular. 

If there were a lot of interest in an AX1B, we would consider it. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:56 PM, Jim H via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have an AX1 on order. My question is it possible to use it on 10 meters?I assume you would have to have the switch in the 15/17 meters position, use the counterpoise wire and shorten up the whip. Plus use an ATU to help the ant work. Just an idea.73Jim k7sss
> 

From w5sv.dave at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 11:10:31 2018
From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:10:31 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
In-Reply-To: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
References: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <713c9494-daf4-e005-72f9-3499cd0e94a7@gmail.com>

Wayne,

I would be interested in a 12, 10 & 6 meter version to complement the 
current model AX1.

73 de Dave, W5SV


On 10/21/18 10:04, Wayne Burdick wrote:

(stuff deleted)
> If there were a lot of interest in an AX1B, we would consider it.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Oct 21 11:11:07 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:11:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Ax1 fun
In-Reply-To: <CAJVEXsWHRQ_=odVuqCtaxdouBusTvsCo72YCB1CKWJO2hC9nPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJVEXsWHRQ_=odVuqCtaxdouBusTvsCo72YCB1CKWJO2hC9nPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1510BB59-DD2B-4EC3-B630-F54DF9D399FA@elecraft.com>

Thanks for the report, Ed. What was your elevation at the time?

Wayne
N6KR

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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Edouard Lafargue <edouard at lafargue.name> wrote:
> 
> Brought my KX3 on a day hike in Donner Pass (California) today, and fired
> it up on a small peak (George R. Stewart Peak) with the AX1 whip and its
> counterpoise.
> 
> Within 10 minutes, got QSOs over ssb with the state of New York, Florida
> and... Bonaire. Pretty cool on a short whip, 10 watts and a bit of luck!
> 
> Great job, Elecraft :-)
> 
> 73 de 

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Oct 21 11:15:15 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:15:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
In-Reply-To: <713c9494-daf4-e005-72f9-3499cd0e94a7@gmail.com>
References: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
	<713c9494-daf4-e005-72f9-3499cd0e94a7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <531846E4-C2FB-46DA-97CB-698AA1920CDA@elecraft.com>

Now that you mention it, Dave, the ATU in a KX2 or KX3 should be able to easily match a 10 and 6 meter version on 12 meters. 

Wayne
N6KR

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> On Oct 21, 2018, at 8:10 AM, David F. Reed <w5sv.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> I would be interested in a 12, 10 & 6 meter version to complement the current model AX1.
> 
> 73 de Dave, W5SV
> 
> 
> On 10/21/18 10:04, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> 
> (stuff deleted)
>> If there were a lot of interest in an AX1B, we would consider it.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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From bob at hogbytes.com  Sun Oct 21 11:36:45 2018
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:36:45 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Change history in New Web Site
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Thank You




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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Sun Oct 21 12:04:15 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 09:04:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <7DA4B4F9-62BB-4154-BFAE-BCC33C570DA1@mosslight.com>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-87B7A5AA5AD24D44B415A03EDDE60250@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I indeed had MIC BTN on, and turned it off. I the KX3 still 
didn't go into receive when I pressed the "Halt Tx" button. (MIC 
BIAS was already off.)

Another issue I didn't mention before seems to have gotten 
worse. Sometimes pressing the "XMIT" button on the KX3 doesn't 
take it out of transmit mode. When I press it it stays in 
transmit. Press it again and it still is in transmit. It finally 
goes into receive when wsjt-x gets to its receive phase.

I am still having problems developing a mental model of what is 
actually happening here. Maybe I'll have to download the wsjt-s 
source code and start reading code again. But that's what I 
retired from years ago. :-)

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/20/18 at 3:35 PM, rna at mosslight.com (Robert Albano) wrote:

>Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.
>
>Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
>
>73 Robert K7RNA
>
>>On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have the same behavior:
>>KX3
>>PX3
>>SignaLink
>>MacBook Pro
>>CAT interface
>>
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>>   I have noticed an significant difference between the way 
>>>my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the
>K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the 
>radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, 
>although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to 
>press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive 
>mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of 
>transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
>>>   Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT 
>>>interface, like changing bands from the
>wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>>   The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 
>>>interface from the K3S.
>>>   The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a 
>>>home brew audio interface using a
>mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>>   The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>>   Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>>   73 Bill AE6JV
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Oct 21 14:12:30 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:12:30 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10136i-87B7A5AA5AD24D44B415A03EDDE60250@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-87B7A5AA5AD24D44B415A03EDDE60250@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <F5D55A5B-E6C3-4AB9-9983-20BD6D3F65A9@blomand.net>

Make sure you are using only one PTT method.  CAT  or VOX but never both.  I prefer CAT as any signal or any noise on the audio line will trip the VOX and thus hold it in transmit. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Oct 21, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> I indeed had MIC BTN on, and turned it off. I the KX3 still didn't go into receive when I pressed the "Halt Tx" button. (MIC BIAS was already off.)
> 
> Another issue I didn't mention before seems to have gotten worse. Sometimes pressing the "XMIT" button on the KX3 doesn't take it out of transmit mode. When I press it it stays in transmit. Press it again and it still is in transmit. It finally goes into receive when wsjt-x gets to its receive phase.
> 
> I am still having problems developing a mental model of what is actually happening here. Maybe I'll have to download the wsjt-s source code and start reading code again. But that's what I retired from years ago. :-)
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 10/20/18 at 3:35 PM, rna at mosslight.com (Robert Albano) wrote:
>> 
>> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.
>> 
>> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
>> 
>> 73 Robert K7RNA
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano <rna at mosslight.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same behavior:
>>> KX3
>>> PX3
>>> SignaLink
>>> MacBook Pro
>>> CAT interface
>>> 
>>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>>>  I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the
>> K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
>>>>  Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like changing bands from the
>> wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>>>  The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the K3S.
>>>>  The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio interface using a
>> mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>>>  The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>>>  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>>>  73 Bill AE6JV
>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Bill Frantz        | Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like
>>>> 408-356-8506       | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a
>>>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo Washington
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From rthorne at rthorne.net  Sun Oct 21 14:13:29 2018
From: rthorne at rthorne.net (Richard Thorne)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:13:29 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Test
Message-ID: <0cb92180-1c42-b20b-1638-025116c3e87e@rthorne.net>

test

From n7tb at comcast.net  Sun Oct 21 14:32:19 2018
From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:32:19 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
Message-ID: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>

My first Elecraft rig was the K2,  I then bought what has become my base station; a fully loaded KX3, KXPA 100 and PX3.

 I got tired of all the cable interface problems with KXPA not working and the cursor not showing up on the PX3 if I took the KX3 portable (always a lot of replugging and reseating cables to finally get it to work. )

I bought a KX2 for portable ops as a result.  

I guess I?ve drunk too much Elecraft Koolaid because I keep looking at the K3s.  To buy a fully outfitted K3s and P3 would set me back about $6k.  I am 99 percent a cw operator. Once I became proficient in CW several years ago, all digital modes ceased to be of interest, as did SSB. 

So with that background,  I would like someone with both the K3s and KX3 to tell me what features the K3s has over the KX3 that would realistically make that $6,000 purchase worth doing. 

Thanks so much!

Terry, N7TB 



From w9lsl at arrl.net  Sun Oct 21 15:01:27 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (Ken Ford W9LSL)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:01:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
In-Reply-To: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
References: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1540148487103-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Wayne -

Here, take my money!

;)

Seriously, I?d be very interested in a 6/10/12 version of the AX1.  I?m
loving my original.

73 -

Ken Ford W9LSL 
Illinois 



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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 15:08:56 2018
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:08:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Test
In-Reply-To: <0cb92180-1c42-b20b-1638-025116c3e87e@rthorne.net>
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Message-ID: <CAFHjwP4rtFYjRz2azHnYx5rfJ9We5rSj_zNFf-p_W0yRoTpNdA@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations! You passed! :-)

73 de,

Ian, KM4IK

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> test
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From droese at necg.de  Sun Oct 21 15:32:21 2018
From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?B?T2xpdmVyIERyw7ZzZQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:32:21 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] =?utf-8?q?AX1B_for_10/6_meters=3F?=
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+1




Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2018, 21:01 +0200 von Ken Ford W9LSL  <w9lsl at arrl.net>:
>Wayne -
>
>Here, take my money!
>
>;)
>
>Seriously, I?d be very interested in a 6/10/12 version of the AX1.  I?m
>loving my original.
>
>73 -
>
>Ken Ford W9LSL 
>Illinois 
>
>
>
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From edauer at law.du.edu  Sun Oct 21 15:42:33 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:42:33 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
Message-ID: <1D6E494F-FFE3-4471-8D88-63360984FC66@law.du.edu>

 Having used the KPA1500 long enough to be confident that mine has no obvious bugs, I am trying to decide whether to keep my KPA500 / KAT500 or put it up for sale.

One possibility would be to use the 500s with a K2.  I have a K2 with the integral KPA100, and two without.  The K2/100 has an RCA jack for the amp keying line which should make things easy - just connect one end to the KPA100 and the other to the KPA500, yes?  

Using a K2 alone as driver for the KPA500 is the question.  There must be an amplifier keying line somewhere in the K2 circuitry, since it can key a KPA500 in the two-box "twins" configuration; but there is no mechanical output for it.  Anyone done this who can help with ideas?  

What kind of output from the KPA500 is possible with a barefoot K2 driving it?  Anything else I should know before trying this out?

The band data is not a problem in either case, since the KPA500 has a one-dit sensing circuit which will be adequate.  (It also has band selection buttons, of course.)

Tnx, as always, for any advice,

Ted, KN1CBR


From wshanney at verizon.net  Sun Oct 21 15:43:55 2018
From: wshanney at verizon.net (William Shanney)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:43:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 on 6M
Message-ID: <4db86659-c400-7550-5337-363267af3ec5@verizon.net>

The whip alone would work on 6M.

73

Bill, W6QR


From edauer at law.du.edu  Sun Oct 21 15:50:34 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:50:34 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 - one small error in
	prior post
Message-ID: <BD47A695-138B-441D-99D6-6ECD2C8EC042@law.du.edu>

Check that -- one small error in prior post.  The Twins configuration includes the KPA100, not the 500.  Can't type.  Or can't think.  One or the other.

Ted, KN1CBR

?On 10/21/18, 1:42 PM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:

     Having used the KPA1500 long enough to be confident that mine has no obvious bugs, I am trying to decide whether to keep my KPA500 / KAT500 or put it up for sale.
    
    One possibility would be to use the 500s with a K2.  I have a K2 with the integral KPA100, and two without.  The K2/100 has an RCA jack for the amp keying line which should make things easy - just connect one end to the KPA100 and the other to the KPA500, yes?  
    
    Using a K2 alone as driver for the KPA500 is the question.  There must be an amplifier keying line somewhere in the K2 circuitry, since it can key a KPA500 [should have read KPA100] in the two-box "twins" configuration; but there is no mechanical output for it.  Anyone done this who can help with ideas?  
    
    What kind of output from the KPA500 is possible with a barefoot K2 driving it?  Anything else I should know before trying this out?
    
    The band data is not a problem in either case, since the KPA500 has a one-dit sensing circuit which will be adequate.  (It also has band selection buttons, of course.)
    
    Tnx, as always, for any advice,
    
    Ted, KN1CBR
    
    


From k9jri at mac.com  Sun Oct 21 16:08:28 2018
From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:08:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 - one small error
 in	prior post
In-Reply-To: <BD47A695-138B-441D-99D6-6ECD2C8EC042@law.du.edu>
References: <BD47A695-138B-441D-99D6-6ECD2C8EC042@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <537C11C9-2D1F-469C-BCAD-62CE6F79CBBB@mac.com>

Dave, while not a K2 I do drive my KPA500 with my KX3 and get about 350 watts output on 80 & 40.  I have not used the KPA500 with the KX3 on the higher bands.  

The KX3 has 15 watts output.

Michael Blake
k9jri at mac.com <mailto:k9jri at icloud.com>






> On Oct 21, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
> Check that -- one small error in prior post.  The Twins configuration includes the KPA100, not the 500.  Can't type.  Or can't think.  One or the other.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> ?On 10/21/18, 1:42 PM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
>     Having used the KPA1500 long enough to be confident that mine has no obvious bugs, I am trying to decide whether to keep my KPA500 / KAT500 or put it up for sale.
> 
>    One possibility would be to use the 500s with a K2.  I have a K2 with the integral KPA100, and two without.  The K2/100 has an RCA jack for the amp keying line which should make things easy - just connect one end to the KPA100 and the other to the KPA500, yes?  
> 
>    Using a K2 alone as driver for the KPA500 is the question.  There must be an amplifier keying line somewhere in the K2 circuitry, since it can key a KPA500 [should have read KPA100] in the two-box "twins" configuration; but there is no mechanical output for it.  Anyone done this who can help with ideas?  
> 
>    What kind of output from the KPA500 is possible with a barefoot K2 driving it?  Anything else I should know before trying this out?
> 
>    The band data is not a problem in either case, since the KPA500 has a one-dit sensing circuit which will be adequate.  (It also has band selection buttons, of course.)
> 
>    Tnx, as always, for any advice,
> 
>    Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> 
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Sun Oct 21 16:13:29 2018
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:13:29 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3
Message-ID: <201810212013.w9LKDVqJ012206@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>

Gary,

Well first thing I would check is whether 10-MHz is present at the K3 
EXREF sma jack.  If you have a freq counter check for correct 
freq.  No counter then use a radio that can tune 10-MHz for presence 
of signal on correct freq.

Check for adequate reference level (I run 10mw which is more than 
adequate; probably will run with 3mw to 5mw).  If you have no 
milliwatt meter then use an oscilloscope to measure RF voltage.  Pav 
= Vrms^2/R  or Vrms = 0.3535*Vp-p*probe multiplier.

From: http://www.ab4oj.com/test/pwrmeas.html
Pav = 10*10^-3 = 0.01 w , Vrms = sqrt(Pav*R) = 0.707v, Vp-p = 2,.828*Vrms = 2v

If you are using a 10x probe Vp-p = 0.2v; Be sure to measure voltage 
across 50-ohm load connected to the REF input.

If this is low or nonexistent try a different cable from the 
GPSDO.  Also check 10-MHz output at the GPSDO.

My guess either you have no 10-MHz ref signal or its off 
frequency.  If that is good then recheck configuration to enable 
EXREF.  Still bad: then check internal coax from EXREF connector to syn  board.

73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   dubususa at gmail.com 


From sm6ehy at swipnet.se  Sun Oct 21 16:23:11 2018
From: sm6ehy at swipnet.se (Bjorwal)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:23:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Function XVn RF and XVn OFS ranges
Message-ID: <1540153391582-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,
Regarding external Transverters, the functions XVn RF and XVn OFS have to be
used.
The XVn RF can only be set to a full MHz, and the XVn OFS can be set to
?9.99 kHz.
If You have a transverter with a not so good crystal, that will not
oscillate stable enough on the intended frequency, You have to use these two
functions. For 10.368 GHz the crystal multification will be 96 and for
24.048 GHz the factor is 192. To have a crystal that is below the ? 9.99 kHz
up on these bands, you have to pay a fortune for this, if you find a
manufacturer that can deliver these with that tight specification...and that
Your Heater / Oven is working OK.
(Just 4 info, a 100 MHz crystal is normally of a 5th overtone cut, which
means an actual multiplication factor of 96 x 5= 480, and 192 x 5= 960. A
1ppm crystal can be off by 23.9 kHz at 24GHz. At 47GHz this will be 47
kHz.). 
Normally a crystal has an accuracy of some 0.005%, which is 50ppm. 
For 10,368 MHz this will be 518 kHz ! 
Suppose the offset is +55 kHz.
How to set up the KX3 to include this figure, so the frequency readout is
the actual frequency You want to operate upon ?
This will not work, unless:
XVn RF can be set to steps in 0.1 MHz and XVn OFS can be set to ? 50.0 kHz. 
or
XVn RF in 0.2 MHz steps and XVn OFS ? 99.9 kHz.

This will give You the chance of letting the frequency display be within
100Hz of the actual output, regardless of the wanted offset.
 
Is there room for a F/W modification ?
Rgds Bjoern



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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Sun Oct 21 17:25:37 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:25:37 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
In-Reply-To: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>
References: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <94f2d574-b0ab-4d16-8426-cc1e44fcb26f@blomand.net>

Terry:

My first thought, KX3 over K3S, is portability.?? If you have the space 
and don't usually operate portable, the K3S is the choice. As to price 
that is always way down the list and secondary with me in a much as I 
demand performance, do not operate portable, have the space for the station.

Sitting on the desk is my K3S-100 , P3, KPA500 and KAT500.?? All factory 
assembled units.? I do work SSB, CW and Digital modes.? I don't think 
there is a finer radio or system on the market today .........at any price.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/21/2018 1:32 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> My first Elecraft rig was the K2,  I then bought what has become my base station; a fully loaded KX3, KXPA 100 and PX3.
>
>   I got tired of all the cable interface problems with KXPA not working and the cursor not showing up on the PX3 if I took the KX3 portable (always a lot of replugging and reseating cables to finally get it to work. )
>
> I bought a KX2 for portable ops as a result.
>
> I guess I?ve drunk too much Elecraft Koolaid because I keep looking at the K3s.  To buy a fully outfitted K3s and P3 would set me back about $6k.  I am 99 percent a cw operator. Once I became proficient in CW several years ago, all digital modes ceased to be of interest, as did SSB.
>
> So with that background,  I would like someone with both the K3s and KX3 to tell me what features the K3s has over the KX3 that would realistically make that $6,000 purchase worth doing.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Terry, N7TB
>
>
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From jrhallas at optonline.net  Sun Oct 21 18:03:59 2018
From: jrhallas at optonline.net (Joel Hallas)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:03:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Wake on LAN
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3743.1540145578.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.3743.1540145578.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000601d46989$f817c390$e8474ab0$@net>

The Elecraft team came through. The WOL needs f/w 1.78 (beta) or newer to
function with the KPA1500 Remote and LAN connection.

All is now well!

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT



Message: 8
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:09:59 -0500
From: Scott <netbsd21 at gmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 "Wake on LAN"
Message-ID: <0aa2c11d-d0a2-2662-0338-4e2220194fc1 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Joel,

For "wake on LAN" to work the network adapters on each end of the LAN or 
WAN connection (wired or wireless) have to be set to send and receive 
"wake on LAN" packets.  



From Gary at ka1j.com  Sun Oct 21 18:18:54 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:18:54 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3
In-Reply-To: <201810212013.w9LKDVqJ012206@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201810212013.w9LKDVqJ012206@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <5BCCFB4E.5664.EAE6A2C@Gary.ka1j.com>

Ed,

Thanks for the reply. I do need an 
oscilloscope. The only frequency counter 
at this QTH is this K3, my K3s is at the 
factory for an issue with SSB. 

That said, there does appear to be a 10MHz 
signal coming from the GPSDO. There's 
enough bleed-through that when I tune to 
10MHz I can still pick up the ticks from 
WWV, however removing power from the GPSDO 
and the signal drops considerably. I 
connected 10' of wire to the center 
conductor of the SMA and the signal in the 
K3 increased considerably and it was dead 
on top of WWV. So I'm feeling it's putting 
out a signal at 10MHV but the strength or 
condition of the signal, I have no way to 
tell.

Looking at the info on the K3EXREF, the 
Tech MD is on, REF CAL is displayed and I 
need to engage keypad #2 to switch between 
the EXREF being in or out, I have it 
switched in. No asterisk.

I have not been inside the radio since I 
started using it a week ago and the 
asterisk was flashing at that time. I 
saved the current configuration and loaded 
the configuration that was good the last 
time I used the radio and that didn't 
help. I can't imagine the cable in the 
radio failed without any mechanical 
action. I'll have to take a look and see 
if anything has become somehow dislodged 
though it's been just sitting on the 
table.

I was hoping it was something in a setting 
that might have been altered and it seems 
like that's not it. Thanks again for the 
assistance.

73,

Gary
KA1J




> Gary,
> 
> Well first thing I would check is whether 10-MHz is present at the K3
> EXREF sma jack.  If you have a freq counter check for correct freq. 
> No counter then use a radio that can tune 10-MHz for presence of
> signal on correct freq.
> 
> Check for adequate reference level (I run 10mw which is more than
> adequate; probably will run with 3mw to 5mw).  If you have no
> milliwatt meter then use an oscilloscope to measure RF voltage.  Pav =
> Vrms^2/R  or Vrms = 0.3535*Vp-p*probe multiplier.
> 
> From: http://www.ab4oj.com/test/pwrmeas.html
> Pav = 10*10^-3 = 0.01 w , Vrms = sqrt(Pav*R) = 0.707v, Vp-p =
> 2,.828*Vrms = 2v
> 
> If you are using a 10x probe Vp-p = 0.2v; Be sure to measure voltage
> across 50-ohm load connected to the REF input.
> 
> If this is low or nonexistent try a different cable from the 
> GPSDO.  Also check 10-MHz output at the GPSDO.
> 
> My guess either you have no 10-MHz ref signal or its off 
> frequency.  If that is good then recheck configuration to enable
> EXREF.  Still bad: then check internal coax from EXREF connector to
> syn  board.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>    http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>    dubususa at gmail.com 
> 
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From brianpepperdine at sympatico.ca  Sun Oct 21 19:05:29 2018
From: brianpepperdine at sympatico.ca (Brian)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:05:29 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving an amp
Message-ID: <YTOPR01MB0076A0ACE6544FD5A4602D9EC3FB0@YTOPR01MB0076.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Quite some time back - like about 12 years - on a boring February day that to my memory was my birthday and I was killing time waiting for the in-laws to arrive for dinner.... I hooked up my K2 to a Technical Materiels Corporation milspec linear amp... PAL 350. This amp is meant to be paired with a low output TMC exciter (around 1 watt) and is conservatively rated at 350 watts output.

I think I used a Dow Key relay for T/R, dialled down the K2 to a low power level with an attenuator in line for good measure, and about 6 arms and hands to do all the manual switching of the Dow Key relay 110 volt wall switch device and turning the amp to Operate etc. The amp has an amazing number of fail-safe triggers (I guess for fumble fingering operators and newbie GIs, HI) so anything weird or more power than it liked...it just tripped off the safety.

It was a resounding amount of weird fun and I worked Hawaii on 'fone for I think my first and last time... on 20m.

Not for the faint hearted or something I would normally do in the regular operation of the shack. But I had time to burn. And definitely not QSK operation.

This would of course be easier with a rig like the K3 with an  key-line output. Heck, even my tube based Johnson Ranger has a key line output in its T/R and receiver mute box. I still think I need a Private to run the TMC amp's knobs, bobs and whistles though.....
Mind you, you should have seen the TMC  kilowatt amp that partially devoured my basement for a while... almost as big as a PDP-11 computer frame. Long gone, heavy beast. Did fit into a Volvo station wagon though.

73
Brien VE3VAW


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sun Oct 21 19:35:56 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:35:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
In-Reply-To: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>
References: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <105b5115-e3ba-1d79-b643-0682ecdb2ce2@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/21/2018 11:32 AM, Terry Brown wrote:
> To buy a fully outfitted K3s and P3 would set me back about $6k.

Yes, but -- folks are selling a K3 to buy a K3S, and, IMO, a K3 with the 
new synth board and the new transverter board is as close to a K3S as I 
need to be. That's what I did with my vintage K3s. A loaded used K3 with 
those boards added is several $K less than a new K3S.

73, Jim K9YC


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sun Oct 21 19:39:43 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:39:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
In-Reply-To: <1540148487103-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
	<1540148487103-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <d148cacd-0cbb-f777-3f11-69fecfbadd61@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/21/2018 12:01 PM, Ken Ford W9LSL wrote:
> Seriously, I?d be very interested in a 6/10/12 version of the AX1.

Have you listened or made QSOs on 12 or 10 recently? Occasional E-skip 
is pretty much what there is, and there's not much of that. I had my K3 
parked on 12M FT8 and a good antenna for most of a week and decoded two 
stations (days apart). Both called CQ and didn't work anyone. In another 
year, 15 will be like that.

73, Jim K9YC



From jm416 at optonline.net  Sun Oct 21 19:56:47 2018
From: jm416 at optonline.net (John W2XS)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:56:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
In-Reply-To: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>
References: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1540166207470-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Here are some things that mattered to me when thinking about the KX3 vs. K3
for home use:

Features that the K3/K3S has that the KX3/KX2 does not have:

1. No messy cables on the desk. This gives a cleaner look to the operating
position (IMO).
2. Coverage of the AM broadcast band as well as full shortwave coverage.
Important to me to reduce (someday) the need for other radios.
3. Excellent roofing filters. I don't know how the KX3 roofing filter system
compares to the K3 xtal filters.  But dialing down the selectivity to under
200 Hz and having that 200 Hz xtal filter click in is an awesome experience.
4. Built-in low-noise amplifier for 12, 10, and 6 meters. 
5. Full-featured second receiver option. Diversity reception is amazing.

The KX2 vs. KX3 decision revolved mostly around size, 160 and 6 meters,
roofing filter, and 12 vs. 15 watts. The block diagrams are very similar.

I have the K3 for home use (upgraded to "almost" a K3S). Since giving my K2
to my brother, I now have a KX2 for portable/QRP work.  I am happy (but do
miss the sound and looks of the K2).

73, John W2XS

KX1 (S/N 015) w/KXPD1, KXAT1, KXB30 (The one in the QST review)
KX2 (S/N 1234)
K1 (S/N 2191) 40, 30, 20, 15, NB, Tuner,  Battery, Backlight, Stand
K2 (S/N 1116) w/KAT2, KSB2, K160RX, KIO2, KBT2, KNB2, KAF2, FDIMP (Built by
Sherwood Eng)
T4X (S/N 11116) (Just a coincidence)
K3/100 (S/N 919) w/KAT3,KRX3, KBPF3, KUSB, KFL3A-200, 500, 2.7k, AM, FM,
PR6-10, P3
HexKey (S/N 113)
DL1, BL1, BL2, N-gen, XG1, W1, BNC-MM
AX1 (soon!)





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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sun Oct 21 20:59:40 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 17:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
In-Reply-To: <893FBA6F-7A47-46AF-85C8-A491F0E12CC7@gmail.com>
References: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
	<1540148487103-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<d148cacd-0cbb-f777-3f11-69fecfbadd61@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<893FBA6F-7A47-46AF-85C8-A491F0E12CC7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c47efceb-bf32-b3ce-f7e2-7d0b080e64d5@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/21/2018 5:09 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
> VP6D was on 12m today. Nice and strong.
>
Not surprising -- trans-equatorial propagation is what's left at this 
stage of the sunspot cycle, there's not much of it, and you've got to be 
there at the right time. AND they're running 600W to very good antennas. 
The two stations I copied were from LU, also trans-equatorial.

73, Jim K9YC



From edouard at lafargue.name  Sun Oct 21 22:16:01 2018
From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:16:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Ax1 fun
In-Reply-To: <1510BB59-DD2B-4EC3-B630-F54DF9D399FA@elecraft.com>
References: <CAJVEXsWHRQ_=odVuqCtaxdouBusTvsCo72YCB1CKWJO2hC9nPw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1510BB59-DD2B-4EC3-B630-F54DF9D399FA@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CAJVEXsUn06W1bVJRZFcLw13CHC+2EQcyGa2OiapSerQhxod9tw@mail.gmail.com>

Elevation was 2230m - about 7300 feet.

Ed

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 08:11 Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the report, Ed. What was your elevation at the time?
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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>
> > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Edouard Lafargue <edouard at lafargue.name>
> wrote:
> >
> > Brought my KX3 on a day hike in Donner Pass (California) today, and fired
> > it up on a small peak (George R. Stewart Peak) with the AX1 whip and its
> > counterpoise.
> >
> > Within 10 minutes, got QSOs over ssb with the state of New York, Florida
> > and... Bonaire. Pretty cool on a short whip, 10 watts and a bit of luck!
> >
> > Great job, Elecraft :-)
> >
> > 73 de
>

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 22 00:39:00 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:39:00 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Pacificon
Message-ID: <3A743F6E-A11C-4F3D-811D-9F60936F20FE@elecraft.com>

Another Pacificon has come and gone.... Seems like a great time was had by all. That certainly applies to those of us at the Elecraft booth, where it always feels like a reunion.

I?d like to thank everybody who stopped by to kick the tires, tell stories, or just introduce  themselves for the first (or Nth) time. Hard to keep track of so many great customers and acquaintances, but we try. 

I got stuck in traffic somewhere in deepest Hayward, California, and missed the opening hour of the exhibit hall on Friday. I understand all the AX1s we brought sold out within a few minutes. We?ll be better prepared in the future.

Thanks for all the great ideas for future products and for improvements to current ones, as usual. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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From kevinr at coho.net  Mon Oct 22 01:08:26 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:08:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <c5111623-d310-4739-6383-a6e2e4cb4196@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ??? Two good nets with decent conditions.? QSB was pretty deep but slow 
enough not to chop up words.? Reports came in on the last few days of 
good weather, the gang at Pacificon, working Ducie, tuning up the snow 
blower, recovering from Michael, visiting the PNW when it's not raining, 
and just spending time on the planet. Some mention of Elecraft gear but 
that's normal.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K9ZTV - Kent - MO

K6XK - Roy - IA

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K4TO - Dave - KY

K4JPN - Steve - GA


 ? On 7046.5 kHz at 0000z:

K4TO - Dave - KY

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

W6JHB - Jim - CA

W0CZ - Ken - ND

WM5F - Dwight - ID


 ?? The time change is another week in the future so I get more time to 
think about the transition to winter.


Stay well,

 ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS


-


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 22 02:27:38 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:27:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 antenna & eHam
Message-ID: <FDD411D3-B3E0-42F6-9F90-22D50C4DD272@elecraft.com>

For some perspectives on the AX1, see:

https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/14042

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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From voerman at att.net  Mon Oct 22 10:43:07 2018
From: voerman at att.net (Lou Voerman W2ROW)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:43:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
In-Reply-To: <1D6E494F-FFE3-4471-8D88-63360984FC66@law.du.edu>
References: <1D6E494F-FFE3-4471-8D88-63360984FC66@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <1540219387738-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Ted,

Elecraft did publish an add on circuit to drive an amp from the K2. The bad
news is that I can not find it on their new website. Tom Hammond N0SS (SK)
designed a PC Board for an amp keying circuit which is no longer available.
However he published the schematic which you can find here:

N0SS K2 amp keying circuit
<http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf>  

I hope the link works. I have not tried this circuit with a KPA500.

Lou W2ROW



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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 22 12:53:24 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:53:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
Message-ID: <E7F304ED-3788-4CC1-ABF7-8A0412DA21ED@elecraft.com>

Q: What length of coax should I use with the AXT1 tripod adapter?

A: If the whip is close to resonance, which will usually be the case on 20 meters, coax losses should be fairly small even with longer runs, say up to 15 feet. When using the AX1 on 17 and 15 meters where an ATU is required, use 3 feet or less to avoid significant feed point loss. A tripod can be set up very close to the operating position at low power levels, so this requirement can be easily met.

* * *

Q: Is the AX1 being used by SOTA operators? 

A: Yes. But that the AX1 is primarily intended for pedestrian mobile, rapid deployment, and as a backup to full size antennas. A longer/higher antenna should be used if supports are available and time permits. I always bring wire to toss into a tree, but my emphasis is on quickly moving from one spot to the next -- literally walking while operating at times -- making the AX1 indispensable.

* * *

Q: Should I call CQ using the AX1 at QRP power levels?

A: If stations are looking for you, as in SOTA operation, sure. But generally at QRP levels with any kind of portable antenna it's more productive to call other stations, with emphasis on trying strong stations first. Strong stations are usually correlated with good propagation, and/or great antennas at their end, which benefits both ends of the QSO.

* * *

73,
Wayne
N6KR


From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct 22 13:02:14 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:02:14 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
In-Reply-To: <1540219387738-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1D6E494F-FFE3-4471-8D88-63360984FC66@law.du.edu>
	<1540219387738-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <76a9c347-9b83-8be3-9949-a9799d74de92@embarqmail.com>

The link is good.  This one was never on the Elecraft website.
Thank the Mid Misouri ham club for preserving most of Tom's website on 
their site.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/22/2018 10:43 AM, Lou Voerman W2ROW wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Elecraft did publish an add on circuit to drive an amp from the K2. The bad
> news is that I can not find it on their new website. Tom Hammond N0SS (SK)
> designed a PC Board for an amp keying circuit which is no longer available.
> However he published the schematic which you can find here:
>
> N0SS K2 amp keying circuit
> <http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf>
>
> I hope the link works. I have not tried this circuit with a KPA500.
>
> Lou W2ROW
>
>
>
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Oct 22 13:29:19 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:29:19 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
In-Reply-To: <E7F304ED-3788-4CC1-ABF7-8A0412DA21ED@elecraft.com>
References: <E7F304ED-3788-4CC1-ABF7-8A0412DA21ED@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <f47c9dc6-3ded-b6f0-972a-1bb4d4f86f56@audiosystemsgroup.com>

Another question I was asked was if a choke should be used on this 
antenna and where it should be placed. My response was no.

73, Jim K9YC


From phystad at mac.com  Mon Oct 22 13:44:36 2018
From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:44:36 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
In-Reply-To: <f47c9dc6-3ded-b6f0-972a-1bb4d4f86f56@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <E7F304ED-3788-4CC1-ABF7-8A0412DA21ED@elecraft.com>
	<f47c9dc6-3ded-b6f0-972a-1bb4d4f86f56@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <9E5EB535-B4BB-4756-BCB2-9F7221018B3D@mac.com>

Another question -- if a right-sized capacity had were added to the top of the whip, could this antenna be somewhat effective on 30 or 40 meters.

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> Another question I was asked was if a choke should be used on this antenna and where it should be placed. My response was no.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Oct 22 14:07:40 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:07:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] New Work On My Website
Message-ID: <42690417-e633-30c7-85a8-3c929be4c1e3@audiosystemsgroup.com>

I've just uploaded

1) slides for my Pacificon talk on Transmitting Chokes for the 630M 
Band, and

2) an applications note on Chokes and Transformers for Receiving Antennas.

Both are reports on extensive work over the spring and summer I've done 
on these topics. Thanks to Elecraft Chief Engineer Wayne Burdick, N6KR, 
who supported both projects by providing engineering samples of selected 
cores for my work.

k9yc.com/publish.htm

73, Jim K9YC


From alaskareynolds at gmail.com  Mon Oct 22 14:28:19 2018
From: alaskareynolds at gmail.com (Terry Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:28:19 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 174, Issue 19
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3901.1540229372.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.3901.1540229372.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <23D659CA-390B-468A-960B-70C4CCFFEBFF@gmail.com>

I see Dr. Peterson tomorrow. I?ll ask about PT. 

Terry

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Test (Richard Thorne)
>   2. K3s vs KX3 Quedtion (Terry Brown)
>   3. Re: AX1B for 10/6 meters? (Ken Ford W9LSL)
>   4. Re: Test (Ian Kahn)
>   5. Re: AX1B for 10/6 meters? (Oliver Dr?se)
>   6. K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 (Dauer, Edward)
>   7. AX1 on 6M (William Shanney)
>   8. Re: K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 - one small error in    prior
>      post (Dauer, Edward)
>   9. Re: K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 - one small error in    prior
>      post (Michael Blake)
>  10. Re: K3EXREF issue? K3 (Edward R Cole)
>  11. Function XVn RF and XVn OFS ranges (Bjorwal)
>  12. Re: K3s vs KX3 Quedtion (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  13. Re: KPA1500 Wake on LAN (Joel Hallas)
>  14. Re: K3EXREF issue? K3 (Gary Smith)
>  15. K2 driving an amp (Brian)
>  16. Re: K3s vs KX3 Quedtion (Jim Brown)
>  17. Re: AX1B for 10/6 meters? (Jim Brown)
>  18. Re: K3s vs KX3 Quedtion (John W2XS)
>  19. Re: AX1B for 10/6 meters? (Jim Brown)
>  20. Re: Ax1 fun (Edouard Lafargue)
>  21. Pacificon (Wayne Burdick)
>  22. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevinr)
>  23. AX1 antenna & eHam (Wayne Burdick)
>  24. Re: K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 (Lou Voerman W2ROW)
>  25. In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon (Wayne Burdick)
>  26. Re: K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 (Don Wilhelm)
>  27. Re: In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon (Jim Brown)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:13:29 -0500
> From: Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Test
> Message-ID: <0cb92180-1c42-b20b-1638-025116c3e87e at rthorne.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> test
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:32:19 -0700
> From: Terry Brown <n7tb at comcast.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
> Message-ID: <CF062191-5CC5-4848-9FEA-7334F45A69FA at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> My first Elecraft rig was the K2,  I then bought what has become my base station; a fully loaded KX3, KXPA 100 and PX3.
> 
> I got tired of all the cable interface problems with KXPA not working and the cursor not showing up on the PX3 if I took the KX3 portable (always a lot of replugging and reseating cables to finally get it to work. )
> 
> I bought a KX2 for portable ops as a result.  
> 
> I guess I?ve drunk too much Elecraft Koolaid because I keep looking at the K3s.  To buy a fully outfitted K3s and P3 would set me back about $6k.  I am 99 percent a cw operator. Once I became proficient in CW several years ago, all digital modes ceased to be of interest, as did SSB. 
> 
> So with that background,  I would like someone with both the K3s and KX3 to tell me what features the K3s has over the KX3 that would realistically make that $6,000 purchase worth doing. 
> 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> Terry, N7TB 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:01:27 -0700 (MST)
> From: Ken Ford W9LSL <w9lsl at arrl.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
> Message-ID: <1540148487103-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Wayne -
> 
> Here, take my money!
> 
> ;)
> 
> Seriously, I?d be very interested in a 6/10/12 version of the AX1.  I?m
> loving my original.
> 
> 73 -
> 
> Ken Ford W9LSL 
> Illinois 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:08:56 -0400
> From: Ian Kahn <km4ik.ian at gmail.com>
> To: Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Test
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Congratulations! You passed! :-)
> 
> 73 de,
> 
> Ian, KM4IK
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 2:19 PM Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net> wrote:
>> 
>> test
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:32:21 +0300
> From: Oliver Dr?se <droese at necg.de>
> To: Ken Ford W9LSL <w9lsl at arrl.net>
> Cc: Jack Brindle via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
> Message-ID: <1540150341.529278582 at f10.my.com>
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> 
> +1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2018, 21:01 +0200 von Ken Ford W9LSL  <w9lsl at arrl.net>:
>> Wayne -
>> 
>> Here, take my money!
>> 
>> ;)
>> 
>> Seriously, I?d be very interested in a 6/10/12 version of the AX1.  I?m
>> loving my original.
>> 
>> 73 -
>> 
>> Ken Ford W9LSL 
>> Illinois 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:42:33 +0000
> From: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
> Message-ID: <1D6E494F-FFE3-4471-8D88-63360984FC66 at law.du.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Having used the KPA1500 long enough to be confident that mine has no obvious bugs, I am trying to decide whether to keep my KPA500 / KAT500 or put it up for sale.
> 
> One possibility would be to use the 500s with a K2.  I have a K2 with the integral KPA100, and two without.  The K2/100 has an RCA jack for the amp keying line which should make things easy - just connect one end to the KPA100 and the other to the KPA500, yes?  
> 
> Using a K2 alone as driver for the KPA500 is the question.  There must be an amplifier keying line somewhere in the K2 circuitry, since it can key a KPA500 in the two-box "twins" configuration; but there is no mechanical output for it.  Anyone done this who can help with ideas?  
> 
> What kind of output from the KPA500 is possible with a barefoot K2 driving it?  Anything else I should know before trying this out?
> 
> The band data is not a problem in either case, since the KPA500 has a one-dit sensing circuit which will be adequate.  (It also has band selection buttons, of course.)
> 
> Tnx, as always, for any advice,
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:43:55 -0700
> From: William Shanney <wshanney at verizon.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 on 6M
> Message-ID: <4db86659-c400-7550-5337-363267af3ec5 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> The whip alone would work on 6M.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bill, W6QR
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:50:34 +0000
> From: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 - one small error
>    in    prior post
> Message-ID: <BD47A695-138B-441D-99D6-6ECD2C8EC042 at law.du.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Check that -- one small error in prior post.  The Twins configuration includes the KPA100, not the 500.  Can't type.  Or can't think.  One or the other.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> ?On 10/21/18, 1:42 PM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
>     Having used the KPA1500 long enough to be confident that mine has no obvious bugs, I am trying to decide whether to keep my KPA500 / KAT500 or put it up for sale.
> 
>    One possibility would be to use the 500s with a K2.  I have a K2 with the integral KPA100, and two without.  The K2/100 has an RCA jack for the amp keying line which should make things easy - just connect one end to the KPA100 and the other to the KPA500, yes?  
> 
>    Using a K2 alone as driver for the KPA500 is the question.  There must be an amplifier keying line somewhere in the K2 circuitry, since it can key a KPA500 [should have read KPA100] in the two-box "twins" configuration; but there is no mechanical output for it.  Anyone done this who can help with ideas?  
> 
>    What kind of output from the KPA500 is possible with a barefoot K2 driving it?  Anything else I should know before trying this out?
> 
>    The band data is not a problem in either case, since the KPA500 has a one-dit sensing circuit which will be adequate.  (It also has band selection buttons, of course.)
> 
>    Tnx, as always, for any advice,
> 
>    Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:08:28 -0400
> From: Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com>
> To: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500 - one small error
>    in    prior post
> Message-ID: <537C11C9-2D1F-469C-BCAD-62CE6F79CBBB at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> Dave, while not a K2 I do drive my KPA500 with my KX3 and get about 350 watts output on 80 & 40.  I have not used the KPA500 with the KX3 on the higher bands.  
> 
> The KX3 has 15 watts output.
> 
> Michael Blake
> k9jri at mac.com <mailto:k9jri at icloud.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Check that -- one small error in prior post.  The Twins configuration includes the KPA100, not the 500.  Can't type.  Or can't think.  One or the other.
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
>> ?On 10/21/18, 1:42 PM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>    Having used the KPA1500 long enough to be confident that mine has no obvious bugs, I am trying to decide whether to keep my KPA500 / KAT500 or put it up for sale.
>> 
>>   One possibility would be to use the 500s with a K2.  I have a K2 with the integral KPA100, and two without.  The K2/100 has an RCA jack for the amp keying line which should make things easy - just connect one end to the KPA100 and the other to the KPA500, yes?  
>> 
>>   Using a K2 alone as driver for the KPA500 is the question.  There must be an amplifier keying line somewhere in the K2 circuitry, since it can key a KPA500 [should have read KPA100] in the two-box "twins" configuration; but there is no mechanical output for it.  Anyone done this who can help with ideas?  
>> 
>>   What kind of output from the KPA500 is possible with a barefoot K2 driving it?  Anything else I should know before trying this out?
>> 
>>   The band data is not a problem in either case, since the KPA500 has a one-dit sensing circuit which will be adequate.  (It also has band selection buttons, of course.)
>> 
>>   Tnx, as always, for any advice,
>> 
>>   Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:13:29 -0800
> From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3
> Message-ID: <201810212013.w9LKDVqJ012206 at mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> Gary,
> 
> Well first thing I would check is whether 10-MHz is present at the K3 
> EXREF sma jack.  If you have a freq counter check for correct 
> freq.  No counter then use a radio that can tune 10-MHz for presence 
> of signal on correct freq.
> 
> Check for adequate reference level (I run 10mw which is more than 
> adequate; probably will run with 3mw to 5mw).  If you have no 
> milliwatt meter then use an oscilloscope to measure RF voltage.  Pav 
> = Vrms^2/R  or Vrms = 0.3535*Vp-p*probe multiplier.
> 
> From: http://www.ab4oj.com/test/pwrmeas.html
> Pav = 10*10^-3 = 0.01 w , Vrms = sqrt(Pav*R) = 0.707v, Vp-p = 2,.828*Vrms = 2v
> 
> If you are using a 10x probe Vp-p = 0.2v; Be sure to measure voltage 
> across 50-ohm load connected to the REF input.
> 
> If this is low or nonexistent try a different cable from the 
> GPSDO.  Also check 10-MHz output at the GPSDO.
> 
> My guess either you have no 10-MHz ref signal or its off 
> frequency.  If that is good then recheck configuration to enable 
> EXREF.  Still bad: then check internal coax from EXREF connector to syn  board.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>   http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>   dubususa at gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:23:11 -0700 (MST)
> From: Bjorwal <sm6ehy at swipnet.se>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Function XVn RF and XVn OFS ranges
> Message-ID: <1540153391582-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi,
> Regarding external Transverters, the functions XVn RF and XVn OFS have to be
> used.
> The XVn RF can only be set to a full MHz, and the XVn OFS can be set to
> ?9.99 kHz.
> If You have a transverter with a not so good crystal, that will not
> oscillate stable enough on the intended frequency, You have to use these two
> functions. For 10.368 GHz the crystal multification will be 96 and for
> 24.048 GHz the factor is 192. To have a crystal that is below the ? 9.99 kHz
> up on these bands, you have to pay a fortune for this, if you find a
> manufacturer that can deliver these with that tight specification...and that
> Your Heater / Oven is working OK.
> (Just 4 info, a 100 MHz crystal is normally of a 5th overtone cut, which
> means an actual multiplication factor of 96 x 5= 480, and 192 x 5= 960. A
> 1ppm crystal can be off by 23.9 kHz at 24GHz. At 47GHz this will be 47
> kHz.). 
> Normally a crystal has an accuracy of some 0.005%, which is 50ppm. 
> For 10,368 MHz this will be 518 kHz ! 
> Suppose the offset is +55 kHz.
> How to set up the KX3 to include this figure, so the frequency readout is
> the actual frequency You want to operate upon ?
> This will not work, unless:
> XVn RF can be set to steps in 0.1 MHz and XVn OFS can be set to ? 50.0 kHz. 
> or
> XVn RF in 0.2 MHz steps and XVn OFS ? 99.9 kHz.
> 
> This will give You the chance of letting the frequency display be within
> 100Hz of the actual output, regardless of the wanted offset.
> 
> Is there room for a F/W modification ?
> Rgds Bjoern
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:25:37 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
> Message-ID: <94f2d574-b0ab-4d16-8426-cc1e44fcb26f at blomand.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Terry:
> 
> My first thought, KX3 over K3S, is portability.?? If you have the space 
> and don't usually operate portable, the K3S is the choice. As to price 
> that is always way down the list and secondary with me in a much as I 
> demand performance, do not operate portable, have the space for the station.
> 
> Sitting on the desk is my K3S-100 , P3, KPA500 and KAT500.?? All factory 
> assembled units.? I do work SSB, CW and Digital modes.? I don't think 
> there is a finer radio or system on the market today .........at any price.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/21/2018 1:32 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
>> My first Elecraft rig was the K2,  I then bought what has become my base station; a fully loaded KX3, KXPA 100 and PX3.
>> 
>>  I got tired of all the cable interface problems with KXPA not working and the cursor not showing up on the PX3 if I took the KX3 portable (always a lot of replugging and reseating cables to finally get it to work. )
>> 
>> I bought a KX2 for portable ops as a result.
>> 
>> I guess I?ve drunk too much Elecraft Koolaid because I keep looking at the K3s.  To buy a fully outfitted K3s and P3 would set me back about $6k.  I am 99 percent a cw operator. Once I became proficient in CW several years ago, all digital modes ceased to be of interest, as did SSB.
>> 
>> So with that background,  I would like someone with both the K3s and KX3 to tell me what features the K3s has over the KX3 that would realistically make that $6,000 purchase worth doing.
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> 
>> Terry, N7TB
>> 
>> 
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> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:03:59 -0400
> From: "Joel Hallas" <jrhallas at optonline.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Wake on LAN
> Message-ID: <000601d46989$f817c390$e8474ab0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> The Elecraft team came through. The WOL needs f/w 1.78 (beta) or newer to
> function with the KPA1500 Remote and LAN connection.
> 
> All is now well!
> 
> Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
> Westport, CT
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:09:59 -0500
> From: Scott <netbsd21 at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 "Wake on LAN"
> Message-ID: <0aa2c11d-d0a2-2662-0338-4e2220194fc1 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Joel,
> 
> For "wake on LAN" to work the network adapters on each end of the LAN or 
> WAN connection (wired or wireless) have to be set to send and receive 
> "wake on LAN" packets.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:18:54 -0400
> From: "Gary Smith" <Gary at ka1j.com>
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3
> Message-ID: <5BCCFB4E.5664.EAE6A2C at Gary.ka1j.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. I do need an 
> oscilloscope. The only frequency counter 
> at this QTH is this K3, my K3s is at the 
> factory for an issue with SSB. 
> 
> That said, there does appear to be a 10MHz 
> signal coming from the GPSDO. There's 
> enough bleed-through that when I tune to 
> 10MHz I can still pick up the ticks from 
> WWV, however removing power from the GPSDO 
> and the signal drops considerably. I 
> connected 10' of wire to the center 
> conductor of the SMA and the signal in the 
> K3 increased considerably and it was dead 
> on top of WWV. So I'm feeling it's putting 
> out a signal at 10MHV but the strength or 
> condition of the signal, I have no way to 
> tell.
> 
> Looking at the info on the K3EXREF, the 
> Tech MD is on, REF CAL is displayed and I 
> need to engage keypad #2 to switch between 
> the EXREF being in or out, I have it 
> switched in. No asterisk.
> 
> I have not been inside the radio since I 
> started using it a week ago and the 
> asterisk was flashing at that time. I 
> saved the current configuration and loaded 
> the configuration that was good the last 
> time I used the radio and that didn't 
> help. I can't imagine the cable in the 
> radio failed without any mechanical 
> action. I'll have to take a look and see 
> if anything has become somehow dislodged 
> though it's been just sitting on the 
> table.
> 
> I was hoping it was something in a setting 
> that might have been altered and it seems 
> like that's not it. Thanks again for the 
> assistance.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Gary,
>> 
>> Well first thing I would check is whether 10-MHz is present at the K3
>> EXREF sma jack.  If you have a freq counter check for correct freq. 
>> No counter then use a radio that can tune 10-MHz for presence of
>> signal on correct freq.
>> 
>> Check for adequate reference level (I run 10mw which is more than
>> adequate; probably will run with 3mw to 5mw).  If you have no
>> milliwatt meter then use an oscilloscope to measure RF voltage.  Pav =
>> Vrms^2/R  or Vrms = 0.3535*Vp-p*probe multiplier.
>> 
>> From: http://www.ab4oj.com/test/pwrmeas.html
>> Pav = 10*10^-3 = 0.01 w , Vrms = sqrt(Pav*R) = 0.707v, Vp-p =
>> 2,.828*Vrms = 2v
>> 
>> If you are using a 10x probe Vp-p = 0.2v; Be sure to measure voltage
>> across 50-ohm load connected to the REF input.
>> 
>> If this is low or nonexistent try a different cable from the 
>> GPSDO.  Also check 10-MHz output at the GPSDO.
>> 
>> My guess either you have no 10-MHz ref signal or its off 
>> frequency.  If that is good then recheck configuration to enable
>> EXREF.  Still bad: then check internal coax from EXREF connector to
>> syn  board.
>> 
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>   http://www.kl7uw.com
>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>>   dubususa at gmail.com 
>> 
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> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:05:29 +0000
> From: Brian <brianpepperdine at sympatico.ca>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving an amp
> Message-ID:
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>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Quite some time back - like about 12 years - on a boring February day that to my memory was my birthday and I was killing time waiting for the in-laws to arrive for dinner.... I hooked up my K2 to a Technical Materiels Corporation milspec linear amp... PAL 350. This amp is meant to be paired with a low output TMC exciter (around 1 watt) and is conservatively rated at 350 watts output.
> 
> I think I used a Dow Key relay for T/R, dialled down the K2 to a low power level with an attenuator in line for good measure, and about 6 arms and hands to do all the manual switching of the Dow Key relay 110 volt wall switch device and turning the amp to Operate etc. The amp has an amazing number of fail-safe triggers (I guess for fumble fingering operators and newbie GIs, HI) so anything weird or more power than it liked...it just tripped off the safety.
> 
> It was a resounding amount of weird fun and I worked Hawaii on 'fone for I think my first and last time... on 20m.
> 
> Not for the faint hearted or something I would normally do in the regular operation of the shack. But I had time to burn. And definitely not QSK operation.
> 
> This would of course be easier with a rig like the K3 with an  key-line output. Heck, even my tube based Johnson Ranger has a key line output in its T/R and receiver mute box. I still think I need a Private to run the TMC amp's knobs, bobs and whistles though.....
> Mind you, you should have seen the TMC  kilowatt amp that partially devoured my basement for a while... almost as big as a PDP-11 computer frame. Long gone, heavy beast. Did fit into a Volvo station wagon though.
> 
> 73
> Brien VE3VAW
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:35:56 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
> Message-ID:
>    <105b5115-e3ba-1d79-b643-0682ecdb2ce2 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>> On 10/21/2018 11:32 AM, Terry Brown wrote:
>> To buy a fully outfitted K3s and P3 would set me back about $6k.
> 
> Yes, but -- folks are selling a K3 to buy a K3S, and, IMO, a K3 with the 
> new synth board and the new transverter board is as close to a K3S as I 
> need to be. That's what I did with my vintage K3s. A loaded used K3 with 
> those boards added is several $K less than a new K3S.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:39:43 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
> Message-ID:
>    <d148cacd-0cbb-f777-3f11-69fecfbadd61 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>> On 10/21/2018 12:01 PM, Ken Ford W9LSL wrote:
>> Seriously, I?d be very interested in a 6/10/12 version of the AX1.
> 
> Have you listened or made QSOs on 12 or 10 recently? Occasional E-skip 
> is pretty much what there is, and there's not much of that. I had my K3 
> parked on 12M FT8 and a good antenna for most of a week and decoded two 
> stations (days apart). Both called CQ and didn't work anyone. In another 
> year, 15 will be like that.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:56:47 -0700 (MST)
> From: John W2XS <jm416 at optonline.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s vs KX3 Quedtion
> Message-ID: <1540166207470-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Here are some things that mattered to me when thinking about the KX3 vs. K3
> for home use:
> 
> Features that the K3/K3S has that the KX3/KX2 does not have:
> 
> 1. No messy cables on the desk. This gives a cleaner look to the operating
> position (IMO).
> 2. Coverage of the AM broadcast band as well as full shortwave coverage.
> Important to me to reduce (someday) the need for other radios.
> 3. Excellent roofing filters. I don't know how the KX3 roofing filter system
> compares to the K3 xtal filters.  But dialing down the selectivity to under
> 200 Hz and having that 200 Hz xtal filter click in is an awesome experience.
> 4. Built-in low-noise amplifier for 12, 10, and 6 meters. 
> 5. Full-featured second receiver option. Diversity reception is amazing.
> 
> The KX2 vs. KX3 decision revolved mostly around size, 160 and 6 meters,
> roofing filter, and 12 vs. 15 watts. The block diagrams are very similar.
> 
> I have the K3 for home use (upgraded to "almost" a K3S). Since giving my K2
> to my brother, I now have a KX2 for portable/QRP work.  I am happy (but do
> miss the sound and looks of the K2).
> 
> 73, John W2XS
> 
> KX1 (S/N 015) w/KXPD1, KXAT1, KXB30 (The one in the QST review)
> KX2 (S/N 1234)
> K1 (S/N 2191) 40, 30, 20, 15, NB, Tuner,  Battery, Backlight, Stand
> K2 (S/N 1116) w/KAT2, KSB2, K160RX, KIO2, KBT2, KNB2, KAF2, FDIMP (Built by
> Sherwood Eng)
> T4X (S/N 11116) (Just a coincidence)
> K3/100 (S/N 919) w/KAT3,KRX3, KBPF3, KUSB, KFL3A-200, 500, 2.7k, AM, FM,
> PR6-10, P3
> HexKey (S/N 113)
> DL1, BL1, BL2, N-gen, XG1, W1, BNC-MM
> AX1 (soon!)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 17:59:40 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: Reflector Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
> Message-ID:
>    <c47efceb-bf32-b3ce-f7e2-7d0b080e64d5 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>> On 10/21/2018 5:09 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
>> VP6D was on 12m today. Nice and strong.
>> 
> Not surprising -- trans-equatorial propagation is what's left at this 
> stage of the sunspot cycle, there's not much of it, and you've got to be 
> there at the right time. AND they're running 600W to very good antennas. 
> The two stations I copied were from LU, also trans-equatorial.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:16:01 -0700
> From: Edouard Lafargue <edouard at lafargue.name>
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ax1 fun
> Message-ID:
>    <CAJVEXsUn06W1bVJRZFcLw13CHC+2EQcyGa2OiapSerQhxod9tw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Elevation was 2230m - about 7300 feet.
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 08:11 Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the report, Ed. What was your elevation at the time?
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> ----
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Edouard Lafargue <edouard at lafargue.name>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brought my KX3 on a day hike in Donner Pass (California) today, and fired
>>> it up on a small peak (George R. Stewart Peak) with the AX1 whip and its
>>> counterpoise.
>>> 
>>> Within 10 minutes, got QSOs over ssb with the state of New York, Florida
>>> and... Bonaire. Pretty cool on a short whip, 10 watts and a bit of luck!
>>> 
>>> Great job, Elecraft :-)
>>> 
>>> 73 de
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:39:00 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: KX3 <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Pacificon
> Message-ID: <3A743F6E-A11C-4F3D-811D-9F60936F20FE at elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> Another Pacificon has come and gone.... Seems like a great time was had by all. That certainly applies to those of us at the Elecraft booth, where it always feels like a reunion.
> 
> I?d like to thank everybody who stopped by to kick the tires, tell stories, or just introduce  themselves for the first (or Nth) time. Hard to keep track of so many great customers and acquaintances, but we try. 
> 
> I got stuck in traffic somewhere in deepest Hayward, California, and missed the opening hour of the exhibit hall on Friday. I understand all the AX1s we brought sold out within a few minutes. We?ll be better prepared in the future.
> 
> Thanks for all the great ideas for future products and for improvements to current ones, as usual. 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> ----
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:08:26 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
> Message-ID: <c5111623-d310-4739-6383-a6e2e4cb4196 at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Good Evening,
> 
> ??? Two good nets with decent conditions.? QSB was pretty deep but slow 
> enough not to chop up words.? Reports came in on the last few days of 
> good weather, the gang at Pacificon, working Ducie, tuning up the snow 
> blower, recovering from Michael, visiting the PNW when it's not raining, 
> and just spending time on the planet. Some mention of Elecraft gear but 
> that's normal.
> 
> 
> ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
> 
> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
> 
> K9ZTV - Kent - MO
> 
> K6XK - Roy - IA
> 
> W0CZ - Ken - ND
> 
> K4TO - Dave - KY
> 
> K4JPN - Steve - GA
> 
> 
> ? On 7046.5 kHz at 0000z:
> 
> K4TO - Dave - KY
> 
> K0DTJ - Brian - CA
> 
> K6PJV - Dale - CA
> 
> W6JHB - Jim - CA
> 
> W0CZ - Ken - ND
> 
> WM5F - Dwight - ID
> 
> 
> ?? The time change is another week in the future so I get more time to 
> think about the transition to winter.
> 
> 
> Stay well,
> 
> ??? Kevin.? KD5ONS
> 
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:27:38 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, KX3 <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 antenna & eHam
> Message-ID: <FDD411D3-B3E0-42F6-9F90-22D50C4DD272 at elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> For some perspectives on the AX1, see:
> 
> https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/14042
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
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> http://www.elecraft.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:43:07 -0700 (MST)
> From: Lou Voerman W2ROW <voerman at att.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
> Message-ID: <1540219387738-0.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Ted,
> 
> Elecraft did publish an add on circuit to drive an amp from the K2. The bad
> news is that I can not find it on their new website. Tom Hammond N0SS (SK)
> designed a PC Board for an amp keying circuit which is no longer available.
> However he published the schematic which you can find here:
> 
> N0SS K2 amp keying circuit
> <http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf>  
> 
> I hope the link works. I have not tried this circuit with a KPA500.
> 
> Lou W2ROW
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:53:24 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "KX3 at yahoogroups.com" <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
> Message-ID: <E7F304ED-3788-4CC1-ABF7-8A0412DA21ED at elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Q: What length of coax should I use with the AXT1 tripod adapter?
> 
> A: If the whip is close to resonance, which will usually be the case on 20 meters, coax losses should be fairly small even with longer runs, say up to 15 feet. When using the AX1 on 17 and 15 meters where an ATU is required, use 3 feet or less to avoid significant feed point loss. A tripod can be set up very close to the operating position at low power levels, so this requirement can be easily met.
> 
> * * *
> 
> Q: Is the AX1 being used by SOTA operators? 
> 
> A: Yes. But that the AX1 is primarily intended for pedestrian mobile, rapid deployment, and as a backup to full size antennas. A longer/higher antenna should be used if supports are available and time permits. I always bring wire to toss into a tree, but my emphasis is on quickly moving from one spot to the next -- literally walking while operating at times -- making the AX1 indispensable.
> 
> * * *
> 
> Q: Should I call CQ using the AX1 at QRP power levels?
> 
> A: If stations are looking for you, as in SOTA operation, sure. But generally at QRP levels with any kind of portable antenna it's more productive to call other stations, with emphasis on trying strong stations first. Strong stations are usually correlated with good propagation, and/or great antennas at their end, which benefits both ends of the QSO.
> 
> * * *
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 26
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:02:14 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
> Message-ID: <76a9c347-9b83-8be3-9949-a9799d74de92 at embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> The link is good.  This one was never on the Elecraft website.
> Thank the Mid Misouri ham club for preserving most of Tom's website on 
> their site.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 10/22/2018 10:43 AM, Lou Voerman W2ROW wrote:
>> Ted,
>> 
>> Elecraft did publish an add on circuit to drive an amp from the K2. The bad
>> news is that I can not find it on their new website. Tom Hammond N0SS (SK)
>> designed a PC Board for an amp keying circuit which is no longer available.
>> However he published the schematic which you can find here:
>> 
>> N0SS K2 amp keying circuit
>> <http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf>
>> 
>> I hope the link works. I have not tried this circuit with a KPA500.
>> 
>> Lou W2ROW
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 27
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:29:19 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at
>    Pacificon
> Message-ID:
>    <f47c9dc6-3ded-b6f0-972a-1bb4d4f86f56 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Another question I was asked was if a choke should be used on this 
> antenna and where it should be placed. My response was no.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
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From phystad at mac.com  Mon Oct 22 14:28:45 2018
From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:28:45 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
In-Reply-To: <9E5EB535-B4BB-4756-BCB2-9F7221018B3D@mac.com>
References: <E7F304ED-3788-4CC1-ABF7-8A0412DA21ED@elecraft.com>
	<f47c9dc6-3ded-b6f0-972a-1bb4d4f86f56@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<9E5EB535-B4BB-4756-BCB2-9F7221018B3D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <DE640F25-7126-4A81-804F-9B2F2C1FDBFA@mac.com>

Correction:  "capacity hat" replaces "capacity had"....


> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Phil Hystad via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Another question -- if a right-sized capacity had were added to the top of the whip, could this antenna be somewhat effective on 30 or 40 meters.
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Another question I was asked was if a choke should be used on this antenna and where it should be placed. My response was no.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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From johnae5x at gmail.com  Mon Oct 22 14:54:53 2018
From: johnae5x at gmail.com (John Harper)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:54:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
Message-ID: <CAPHmH=NbAM_3N50qX6hURBK-ro=Kv7Og4A9LoQLYLmf6n7FtbA@mail.gmail.com>

And with the right size loading coil could it be used on 630 and 2200
meters pedestrian mobile? What size wheelbarrow would be recommended for
the coil?

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com
_________________________

Another question -- if a right-sized capacity hat were added to the
top of the whip, could this antenna be somewhat effective on 30 or 40
meters.

>* On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>> wrote:
*> >* Another question I was asked was if a choke should be used on
this antenna and where it should be placed. My response was no.
*> >* 73, Jim K9YC*

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 22 15:29:33 2018
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:29:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Elecraft] In response to several AX1 questions at Pacificon
Message-ID: <1146139292.11396.1540236574209@wamui-albus.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

One would need to be mindful of the 630m 5 watt and 2200m 1 watt EIRP limits in North America, when using such a modified AX1.

Mike / KK5F
:-)
-------------------------

> And with the right size loading coil could it be used on 630
> and 2200 meters pedestrian mobile?

_________________________

> Another question -- if a right-sized capacity hat were added to
> the top of the whip, could this antenna be somewhat effective on
> 30 or 40 meters.

From w9lsl at arrl.net  Mon Oct 22 15:45:34 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (Ken Ford - W9LSL)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 12:45:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1B for 10/6 meters?
In-Reply-To: <d148cacd-0cbb-f777-3f11-69fecfbadd61@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <E55BF673-9732-457E-A766-D9779EC26699@elecraft.com>
	<1540148487103-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<d148cacd-0cbb-f777-3f11-69fecfbadd61@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <1540237534223-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Ye of little faith - at 56, I can afford to wait out Sol.  ;)

Ken Ford W9LSL
Illinois



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From sawitt at ieee.org  Mon Oct 22 16:36:23 2018
From: sawitt at ieee.org (Steve Witt)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:36:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 driving KPA500 / KAT500
In-Reply-To: <1540219387738-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1D6E494F-FFE3-4471-8D88-63360984FC66@law.du.edu>
	<1540219387738-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <20181022203623.2wdeq3n2inflt5yd@ieee.org>

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:43:07AM -0700, Lou Voerman W2ROW wrote:
> Ted,
> 
> Elecraft did publish an add on circuit to drive an amp from the K2. The bad
> news is that I can not find it on their new website. Tom Hammond N0SS (SK)
> designed a PC Board for an amp keying circuit which is no longer available.
> However he published the schematic which you can find here:
> 
> N0SS K2 amp keying circuit
> <http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf>  
> 
> I hope the link works. I have not tried this circuit with a KPA500.
> 
> Lou W2ROW
> 

I built the circuit provided by Elecraft a few months ago to add a
KXPA100 amp to my K2. Its been working great once I got it built
properly. I used two sources of info, the Elecraft circuit
<http://web.archive.org/web/20180316034045/www.elecraft.com/Apps/Amp_keying_ckt.htm>
and another page that added some information to the Elecraft page
<http://www.mwrs.org.au/2014/04/20/elecraft-k2-amplifier-keying-circuit/>.

In the Elecraft page they mentioned that both transistors can be
2N2222, which is what I did. 

The first link is through the Internet Archive site that allows access
to old, saved websitess to allow access to the old Elecraft
site. Someone posted about this just a few days ago, which is how I
learned of it. 

73
Steve N6SAW

From n7wy at rocketmail.com  Mon Oct 22 17:02:09 2018
From: n7wy at rocketmail.com (n7wy)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:02:09 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 not amplifying
Message-ID: <mailman.108.1540242138.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Turns out, it is not the KPA1500 not amplifying, but rather the KPA3A final amplifier stage in my K3S is acting like it has tubes, not FETs.? It has to warm up at 30 watts out, and then the power can? be reduced to 20 watts.? Weirdly, changing the power level above 20 watts seems to reset tbe behavior so it has to be warmed again.? The KPA3A module that is present is the 2nd replacement/exchange.? The first 2 had high 2 tone IMD issues on SSB.
My trustworthy K3 is now driving tbe KPA1500 without issues.
Thanks for all the off reflector counsel and 73,
Bob R? n7wy



From dennis at mail4life.net  Mon Oct 22 18:59:41 2018
From: dennis at mail4life.net (Dennis Moore)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:59:41 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 on the K2
Message-ID: <08f92b72-7bc8-a5a9-f2ec-5771b2538bd2@mail4life.net>

Here are a couple of observations on using the AX1 on the K2/10 with 
internal tuner. First off, I know that this is promoted for the KX2/KX3 
and similar radios, the AX1 page doesn't list the K2 as a compatible 
product and probably doesn't get much use in /PM.

With the K2 sitting flat, the AXB1 Whip Bipod legs aren't quite long 
enough to be effective. They do touch the table with maybe 1/2" of space 
between the legs. If you're using the K2 on an uneven surface they may 
not provide any support at all. I think another 1/4" - 1/2" of length 
would solve that. With the bail extended and the front of the K2 
elevated the legs work fine but of course the antenna is no longer 
perfectly vertical

K2 internal tuner tests were performed with the whip fully extended and 
the supplied radial wire laid out to its full length and tightened under 
the ground post as well as it could be. The pre-installed lug does not 
fit around the ground post. Switch position was appropriate for each 
band tested. On 20m the internal tuner found a good match wherever I was 
in the band. That is to be expected as the antenna was designed for 20m 
with no tuner. On 17m the best match I could get was 3.3:1, and on 15m I 
got a 1.1:1 match pretty much throughout the band.

I don't know what caused the issue on 17m since it worked fine on 20 and 
15. On my KX3 the AX1 tuned up fine on all three bands so I don't 
suspect an issue with the antenna, it must be the K2 tuner although it 
tunes other antennas well on 17m. I'll do some more playing around and 
if I get different results I'll post them.

73, Dennis NJ6G
"Bill Murray"

From rich at wc3t.us  Mon Oct 22 21:15:28 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AXT1 status?
Message-ID: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>

I ordered an AXT1 tripod mount about 1 day before the new web site came
online and a bit before Pacificon went on, meaning the chance of my finding
out what?s going on with my order is bordering on ?vanishingly small.?
 Phone clls are going to voicemail and emails are not being answered.

I could craft one myself, but I?m just curious as to whether the AXT1 is
awaiting raw materials.   Does anyone know?

Thanks a bunch.
-- 
72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

From va3mw at portcredit.net  Mon Oct 22 21:34:57 2018
From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:34:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AXT1 status?
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+33ts4DxJuKJW+eGUwueDf+fxzK5a9MpGQkhL3khwUFpa3+nA@mail.gmail.com>

Rich

I'm sure you'll find this will all work out pretty quickly.  Elecraft is
not Amazon... :)

It is actually pretty hard for a company this size to man phones all day.
I'm sure any voice mail or email you sent will get responded to in a timely
manner.

I've used Elecraft's bits for decades and even calling from Canada and
shipping to me in various places has gone very very well.

QRX a bit... they will get back to you.

73, Mike va3mw


On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:16 PM rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:

> I ordered an AXT1 tripod mount about 1 day before the new web site came
> online and a bit before Pacificon went on, meaning the chance of my finding
> out what?s going on with my order is bordering on ?vanishingly small.?
>  Phone clls are going to voicemail and emails are not being answered.
>
> I could craft one myself, but I?m just curious as to whether the AXT1 is
> awaiting raw materials.   Does anyone know?
>
> Thanks a bunch.
> --
> 72,
> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
> *FN20is*
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From rich at wc3t.us  Mon Oct 22 22:47:27 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AXT1 status?
In-Reply-To: <CA+33ts4DxJuKJW+eGUwueDf+fxzK5a9MpGQkhL3khwUFpa3+nA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+33ts4DxJuKJW+eGUwueDf+fxzK5a9MpGQkhL3khwUFpa3+nA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABYU7WiVS3FBwoKSiortpGgT2dWRmGX1_zLs+KgCWqD+mHP_Jg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Bob, for the data point.   Gives me an idea of how long things are
going to take.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:34 PM Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net> wrote:

> Rich
>
> I'm sure you'll find this will all work out pretty quickly.  Elecraft is
> not Amazon... :)
>
> It is actually pretty hard for a company this size to man phones all day.
> I'm sure any voice mail or email you sent will get responded to in a timely
> manner.
>
> I've used Elecraft's bits for decades and even calling from Canada and
> shipping to me in various places has gone very very well.
>
> QRX a bit... they will get back to you.
>
> 73, Mike va3mw
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:16 PM rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
>
>> I ordered an AXT1 tripod mount about 1 day before the new web site came
>> online and a bit before Pacificon went on, meaning the chance of my
>> finding
>> out what?s going on with my order is bordering on ?vanishingly small.?
>>  Phone clls are going to voicemail and emails are not being answered.
>>
>> I could craft one myself, but I?m just curious as to whether the AXT1 is
>> awaiting raw materials.   Does anyone know?
>>
>> Thanks a bunch.
>> --
>> 72,
>> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
>> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
>> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
>> *FN20is*
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-- 
72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct 23 13:29:21 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:29:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AXT1 status?
In-Reply-To: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3F65C53-C969-4407-A985-114B1A7E37F4@elecraft.com>

Hi Rich,

It may already be in the mail. If it ends up backordered (things flew off the shelf pretty fast), and you're in a hurry, I'll send you one of the prototypes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Oct 22, 2018, at 6:15 PM, rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
> 
> I ordered an AXT1 tripod mount about 1 day before the new web site came
> online and a bit before Pacificon went on, meaning the chance of my finding
> out what?s going on with my order is bordering on ?vanishingly small.?
> Phone clls are going to voicemail and emails are not being answered.
> 
> I could craft one myself, but I?m just curious as to whether the AXT1 is
> awaiting raw materials.   Does anyone know?
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> -- 
> 72,
> Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737




From rich at wc3t.us  Tue Oct 23 13:35:33 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:35:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AXT1 status?
In-Reply-To: <A3F65C53-C969-4407-A985-114B1A7E37F4@elecraft.com>
References: <CABYU7WjUbu_+BZ8yAwJ9VkHzUCEdY6u1b6L99nZuenmjr40omg@mail.gmail.com>
	<A3F65C53-C969-4407-A985-114B1A7E37F4@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CABYU7WgUnA_uB9ZUbMs2NRKFRD2r-8pgT-isg3NxjPdMkxcG5g@mail.gmail.com>

That's quite all right.   It was curiosity more than anything else.   I'm
in no crushing hurry.  :)

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 1:29 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

> Hi Rich,
>
> It may already be in the mail. If it ends up backordered (things flew off
> the shelf pretty fast), and you're in a hurry, I'll send you one of the
> prototypes.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
> > On Oct 22, 2018, at 6:15 PM, rich hurd WC3T <rich at wc3t.us> wrote:
> >
> > I ordered an AXT1 tripod mount about 1 day before the new web site came
> > online and a bit before Pacificon went on, meaning the chance of my
> finding
> > out what?s going on with my order is bordering on ?vanishingly small.?
> > Phone clls are going to voicemail and emails are not being answered.
> >
> > I could craft one myself, but I?m just curious as to whether the AXT1 is
> > awaiting raw materials.   Does anyone know?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch.
> > --
> > 72,
> > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
>
>
>
>

-- 
72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

From gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 23 20:29:51 2018
From: gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com (eric norris)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Covers for Elecraft (and other) Gear
References: <31473865.496041.1540340991272.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <31473865.496041.1540340991272@mail.yahoo.com>

I've been buying covers from a guy on Ebay that I am very happy with--including new KPA1500 covers.? Here's the link:
jse-repair on eBay  
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From wa2lbi at gmail.com  Tue Oct 23 20:39:49 2018
From: wa2lbi at gmail.com (Ken Winterling)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:39:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Covers for Elecraft (and other) Gear
In-Reply-To: <31473865.496041.1540340991272@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <31473865.496041.1540340991272.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<31473865.496041.1540340991272@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALK4bwip5K4z3MKHZ56_NgYXbpdHK5E67pOA3D0yxD+jA2krag@mail.gmail.com>

I can second that.  Jeff does a great job.  I got the single combination
cover for the KPA500/KAT500 with the two units stacked.  I had him add a
flap to the rear.  When I slide the cover on from the front the flap slides
out over the cables attached to the amp and tuner and covers the backs of
the units and cable connections of both units.  The rear of the units and
the attached cables remain dust free.



On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 20:30 eric norris via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I've been buying covers from a guy on Ebay that I am very happy
> with--including new KPA1500 covers.  Here's the link:
> jse-repair on eBay
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> jse-repair on eBay
>
> Follow jse-repair on eBay. Buying, Selling, Collecting on eBay has never
> been more exciting!
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>
> 73 Eric WD6DBM



> --

Ken
WA2LBI

Sent from one of my mobile devices

From w4das at comcast.net  Wed Oct 24 00:37:16 2018
From: w4das at comcast.net (Doug Shields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 00:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KANT3 Antenna Input Module wanted
Message-ID: <020401d46b53$3e44c960$bace5c20$@net>

Hello everyone,

     I would like to purchase a KANT3 Antenna Input Module (Elecraft part
number E850248).  This is the board that connects the antenna input to the
RF board.   Perhaps you have upgraded to the KAT3 or KAT3A antenna tuner and
have the old KANT3 board left over.  Please let me know what you have and
what you need to part with it.  Thanks very much.

Doug  W4DAS



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From dm4im at t-online.de  Wed Oct 24 10:31:12 2018
From: dm4im at t-online.de (Martin)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:31:12 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
Message-ID: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>

Elecrafters,
i'm preparing the clubstation for the CQ WW Contest. I get Audio-reports 
saying the audio is sharp and narrow . I would like to set the K3 for a 
good and readable audio. Would the Yamaha CM 500 users share their 
settings? Thanks.



-- 

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM

From wunder at wunderwood.org  Wed Oct 24 10:52:47 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 07:52:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
In-Reply-To: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
References: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <D7E5708F-889E-4ACC-9F07-7625D9535003@wunderwood.org>

This article is for the KX3, but the TX EQ settings are from K3 users. I don?t know if the DVR trick works on the K3, but it is worth trying.

https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder at wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Martin <dm4im at t-online.de> wrote:
> 
> Elecrafters,
> i'm preparing the clubstation for the CQ WW Contest. I get Audio-reports saying the audio is sharp and narrow . I would like to set the K3 for a good and readable audio. Would the Yamaha CM 500 users share their settings? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ohne CW ist es nur CB..
> 
> 73, Martin DM4iM
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Wed Oct 24 12:05:24 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:05:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
In-Reply-To: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
References: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <0E57AA15-A3FC-4F4D-9DE2-08D31A6F7563@widomaker.com>

Mic select rpl bias
Mic gain 17
Cmp 17

Good place to start. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 24, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Martin <dm4im at t-online.de> wrote:
> 
> Elecrafters,
> i'm preparing the clubstation for the CQ WW Contest. I get Audio-reports saying the audio is sharp and narrow . I would like to set the K3 for a good and readable audio. Would the Yamaha CM 500 users share their settings? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ohne CW ist es nur CB..
> 
> 73, Martin DM4iM
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From wshanney at verizon.net  Wed Oct 24 12:37:24 2018
From: wshanney at verizon.net (William Shanney)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:37:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Status
Message-ID: <166a6f018cd-1ec6-3afb@webjas-vaa241.srv.aolmail.net>

I ordered mine on the pre-order day and have heard nothing.


Bill, W6QR
wshanney at verizon.net


From pvandyke1953 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 13:04:11 2018
From: pvandyke1953 at gmail.com (Paul Van Dyke)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:04:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Status
In-Reply-To: <166a6f018cd-1ec6-3afb@webjas-vaa241.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <166a6f018cd-1ec6-3afb@webjas-vaa241.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPKcUkJVkfrHw9PFwg_MgXAFONCdM1sjT76achQeOg_87upng@mail.gmail.com>

Errr There is a rare chance that they were slammed...

KB9AVO


On 10/24/18, William Shanney <wshanney at verizon.net> wrote:
> I ordered mine on the pre-order day and have heard nothing.
>
>
> Bill, W6QR
> wshanney at verizon.net
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 24 13:07:12 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:07:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AX1 Status
In-Reply-To: <CAEPKcUkJVkfrHw9PFwg_MgXAFONCdM1sjT76achQeOg_87upng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <166a6f018cd-1ec6-3afb@webjas-vaa241.srv.aolmail.net>
	<CAEPKcUkJVkfrHw9PFwg_MgXAFONCdM1sjT76achQeOg_87upng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2C37B54E-32E9-486C-878F-41EF060B0879@elecraft.com>

We were indeed.

Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 24, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Paul Van Dyke <pvandyke1953 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Errr There is a rare chance that they were slammed...
> 
> KB9AVO
> 
> 
> On 10/24/18, William Shanney <wshanney at verizon.net> wrote:
>> I ordered mine on the pre-order day and have heard nothing.
>> 
>> 
>> Bill, W6QR
>> wshanney at verizon.net
>> 
>> ______________________________________



From n0nb at n0nb.us  Wed Oct 24 13:14:03 2018
From: n0nb at n0nb.us (Nate Bargmann)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:14:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
In-Reply-To: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
References: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <20181024171403.go3iwcbjgsdvhu3q@n0nb.us>

I've gotten good reports with the following:

Mic Gain 25
compression 10

I set rear panel bias on for the electret element.

My TX EQ is

0.05  -9
0.10  -6
0.20  0
0.40  +2
0.80  +4
1.60  +5
2.40  +2
3.20  -3

I use the same EQ settings for both the CM500 and for the MC-60
connected to the front panel connector.

As I occasionally get good audio reports, these settings must be really
doing something as I not only have a face for radio but a voice for CW
and a fist for FT-8.  ;-)

73, Nate, N0NB

-- 

"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true."

Web: http://www.n0nb.us  GPG key: D55A8819  GitHub: N0NB

From lists at subich.com  Wed Oct 24 14:51:43 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:51:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
In-Reply-To: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
References: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <56a20f47-aea1-6f53-7110-66a61060e8f4@subich.com>


 > saying the audio is sharp and narrow .

"Sharp and narrow" generally means too much high frequency (1600 - 3200
HZ) audio and not enough mid range (400 - 800 HZ) audio.

With my CM-500 I use the following two sets of TX EQ:

          Normal operation     "DX"/Contest Operation

    50          -16                 -16
   100          -16                 -16
   200          - 8                 - 8
   400            0                   0
   800            0                   0
  1600           +3                  +5
  2400           +5                  +8
  3200           +6                 +10

The "normal" EQ is very similar to a typical "communications" mic or
the old Heil HC5 (3 dB/octave HF "boost") while the "DX" EQ is very
similar to the Heil HC4 "DX" element (5 dB/octave HF "boost").  The
DX/Contest setting is a bit "sharp" and I would not use it every day

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-24 10:31 AM, Martin wrote:
> Elecrafters,
> i'm preparing the clubstation for the CQ WW Contest. I get Audio-reports 
> saying the audio is sharp and narrow . I would like to set the K3 for a 
> good and readable audio. Would the Yamaha CM 500 users share their 
> settings? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Wed Oct 24 15:14:11 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:14:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
In-Reply-To: <56a20f47-aea1-6f53-7110-66a61060e8f4@subich.com>
References: <463dede5-eaf0-3145-c128-3a105857a969@t-online.de>
	<56a20f47-aea1-6f53-7110-66a61060e8f4@subich.com>
Message-ID: <8bbce5ca-1452-9a39-fd03-3651ca52d184@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/24/2018 11:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> "Sharp and narrow" generally means too much high frequency (1600 - 3200
> HZ) audio and not enough mid range (400 - 800 HZ) audio.

Or that the other station is confusing ham radio with broadcasting. Some 
hams want to hear full bass -- that's fine if signals are strong with no 
QSB, but sucks power that can be better used for communication when 
conditions aren't great between you and your QSO partner.

My recommended settings for most voices with the CM500 and other "flat" 
mics is for maximum cut of the three lowest bands (50, 100, 200), 6 dB 
cut of the 4th (400 Hz), the 7th band (2400 Hz) boosted 3 dB, and the 
8th (3200 Hz) boosted 3-6 dB.

On 10/24/2018 10:14 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> Mic Gain 25
> compression 10

NO!? Numerical control settings are the WRONG way to set Mic Gain and 
Compression. Rather, Mic Gain should be set for full power on voice 
peaks with no compression. The "right" Mic Gain setting depends on how 
loud you talk and how close the mic is to your mouth. An ideal position 
for the mic is a few inches above and to the side of the mouth. This 
minimizes breath pops and allows drinking coffee and munching, but is 
also close enough to minimize room noise. Once that is "right," COMP 
should be set for indicated 10dB of Compression on the LED display on 
voice peaks.

73, Jim K9YC




From dm4im at t-online.de  Wed Oct 24 15:49:59 2018
From: dm4im at t-online.de (Martin)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:49:59 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 settings for Yamaha headset
In-Reply-To: <CACBXY4OwBE93FBH9yBmg6d0166vHfPM30UL-w_gR4TEMqhfH5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACBXY4OwBE93FBH9yBmg6d0166vHfPM30UL-w_gR4TEMqhfH5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d2c25174-6448-c3e4-b852-30b8b2ec98d0@t-online.de>

Elecrafters, thanks for the input.



-- 

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM

From ke8g.jim at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 16:43:26 2018
From: ke8g.jim at gmail.com (KE8G)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question
Message-ID: <CAOdpi6ForXoQPxF0dnJ1m6-U-9u5qtGfW7griA1S7gLTbOLahg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I apologize in advance, as this is going to be a long post.  I will try to
include all the relevant information, so not many questions are left
unanswered.

I recently bought a K3s and got rid of my K3 rigs.  The K3s is located at
my Ohio QTH (remote radio) and hooked up properly to the PC, which is Win7
64 bit, running the latest OS updates.

To operate remotely, while in Texas, I use all software, no RemoteRig.  The
software I use for radio control is Win4Ksuite (I have been corresponding
with Tom and he suggested I ask this group), N1MM for contesting and
logging.  I run com0com to allow the virtual comports to run both
Win4K3suite and N1MM simultaneously.  I run 2 instances (with different
Id's) of Skype, so I have audio and can see my P3 via webcam.  Included
hardware is a Winkeyer.  The K3s and Winkeyer are properly configured in
N1MM.  This setup has worked flawlessly for several years.

*The only difference is I went from a K3 to a K3s... no other changes.*

The K3s came with firmware version 5.62.  When I used the remote setup last
time (in August 2018) it worked perfectly.  The K3 then, had version 5.60.
I have updated the K3s with firmware version 5.60 and still experience the
issue.

The ISSUE... whenever I hit a key on the control station keyboard, makes no
difference which key, the audio will "mute" for a couple of characters,
then pop back on strong.  It makes no difference if I have Win4K3suite &
N1MM running, just Win4K3suite running or nothing other than Skype and the
radio on, the moment I hit a key, the audio is muted momentarily!

Any suggestions on a remedy would be greatly appreciated.

73 de Jim - KE8G

From tomb18 at videotron.ca  Wed Oct 24 16:55:07 2018
From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:55:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question
In-Reply-To: <FQ1xgsMXbDQvXFQ1ygcLa8@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <03fd7ac49dd6656f5e89b5daf19a1c90@smtp.videotron.ca>

HiOne thing I just thought of? is that perhaps Skype is muting the sound when you hit a key. Try to set the mic input on mute and see what happens.73 Tom

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: KE8G <ke8g.jim at gmail.com> Date: 2018-10-24  4:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question 
Hi All,
I apologize in advance, as this is going to be a long post.? I will try to
include all the relevant information, so not many questions are left
unanswered.

I recently bought a K3s and got rid of my K3 rigs.? The K3s is located at
my Ohio QTH (remote radio) and hooked up properly to the PC, which is Win7
64 bit, running the latest OS updates.

To operate remotely, while in Texas, I use all software, no RemoteRig.? The
software I use for radio control is Win4Ksuite (I have been corresponding
with Tom and he suggested I ask this group), N1MM for contesting and
logging.? I run com0com to allow the virtual comports to run both
Win4K3suite and N1MM simultaneously.? I run 2 instances (with different
Id's) of Skype, so I have audio and can see my P3 via webcam.? Included
hardware is a Winkeyer.? The K3s and Winkeyer are properly configured in
N1MM.? This setup has worked flawlessly for several years.

*The only difference is I went from a K3 to a K3s... no other changes.*

The K3s came with firmware version 5.62.? When I used the remote setup last
time (in August 2018) it worked perfectly.? The K3 then, had version 5.60.
I have updated the K3s with firmware version 5.60 and still experience the
issue.

The ISSUE... whenever I hit a key on the control station keyboard, makes no
difference which key, the audio will "mute" for a couple of characters,
then pop back on strong.? It makes no difference if I have Win4K3suite &
N1MM running, just Win4K3suite running or nothing other than Skype and the
radio on, the moment I hit a key, the audio is muted momentarily!

Any suggestions on a remedy would be greatly appreciated.

73 de Jim - KE8G
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From kstover at ac0h.net  Wed Oct 24 19:49:39 2018
From: kstover at ac0h.net (kstover at ac0h.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:49:39 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question
In-Reply-To: <03fd7ac49dd6656f5e89b5daf19a1c90@smtp.videotron.ca>
References: <FQ1xgsMXbDQvXFQ1ygcLa8@videotron.ca>
	<03fd7ac49dd6656f5e89b5daf19a1c90@smtp.videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <001901d46bf4$3c61c660$b5255320$@ac0h.net>

It sure does sound like a Skype issue.
At work we use Skype and Cisco Webex for remote video display of meetings. In either app if you touch any button on the hardware or software IP phones, even to mute them, the software will mute the presentation.

Is the K3s set to beep on button presses?


R. Kevin Stover    AC0H

ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
?If it doesn?t work the first time you push the button it won?t work the 20th?Just stop.?

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of tomb18
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:55 PM
To: KE8G <ke8g.jim at gmail.com>; Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s audio question

HiOne thing I just thought of  is that perhaps Skype is muting the sound when you hit a key. Try to set the mic input on mute and see what happens.73 Tom

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: KE8G <ke8g.jim at gmail.com> Date: 2018-10-24  4:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question Hi All, I apologize in advance, as this is going to be a long post.  I will try to include all the relevant information, so not many questions are left unanswered.

I recently bought a K3s and got rid of my K3 rigs.  The K3s is located at my Ohio QTH (remote radio) and hooked up properly to the PC, which is Win7
64 bit, running the latest OS updates.

To operate remotely, while in Texas, I use all software, no RemoteRig.  The software I use for radio control is Win4Ksuite (I have been corresponding with Tom and he suggested I ask this group), N1MM for contesting and logging.  I run com0com to allow the virtual comports to run both Win4K3suite and N1MM simultaneously.  I run 2 instances (with different
Id's) of Skype, so I have audio and can see my P3 via webcam.  Included hardware is a Winkeyer.  The K3s and Winkeyer are properly configured in N1MM.  This setup has worked flawlessly for several years.

*The only difference is I went from a K3 to a K3s... no other changes.*

The K3s came with firmware version 5.62.  When I used the remote setup last time (in August 2018) it worked perfectly.  The K3 then, had version 5.60.
I have updated the K3s with firmware version 5.60 and still experience the issue.

The ISSUE... whenever I hit a key on the control station keyboard, makes no difference which key, the audio will "mute" for a couple of characters, then pop back on strong.  It makes no difference if I have Win4K3suite & N1MM running, just Win4K3suite running or nothing other than Skype and the radio on, the moment I hit a key, the audio is muted momentarily!

Any suggestions on a remedy would be greatly appreciated.

73 de Jim - KE8G
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From jim at jtmiller.com  Wed Oct 24 19:54:33 2018
From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:54:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question
In-Reply-To: <001901d46bf4$3c61c660$b5255320$@ac0h.net>
References: <FQ1xgsMXbDQvXFQ1ygcLa8@videotron.ca>
	<03fd7ac49dd6656f5e89b5daf19a1c90@smtp.videotron.ca>
	<001901d46bf4$3c61c660$b5255320$@ac0h.net>
Message-ID: <CACYeN9wDeZKrkbZuPdb_D6caMVpHOhkKophO=Tj4LOt58rBS-A@mail.gmail.com>

skype is basically half duplex with vox. any thing that happens locally
that triggers the vox will cause receive cut outs.

the cure is to mute the mike whenever you're done talking. treat the mute
button like PTT and you'll have better luck.

jim ab3cv


On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:51 PM <kstover at ac0h.net> wrote:

> It sure does sound like a Skype issue.
> At work we use Skype and Cisco Webex for remote video display of meetings.
> In either app if you touch any button on the hardware or software IP
> phones, even to mute them, the software will mute the presentation.
>
> Is the K3s set to beep on button presses?
>
>
> R. Kevin Stover    AC0H
>
> ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
> ?If it doesn?t work the first time you push the button it won?t work the
> 20th?Just stop.?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> On Behalf Of tomb18
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:55 PM
> To: KE8G <ke8g.jim at gmail.com>; Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s audio question
>
> HiOne thing I just thought of  is that perhaps Skype is muting the sound
> when you hit a key. Try to set the mic input on mute and see what
> happens.73 Tom
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: KE8G <ke8g.jim at gmail.com> Date:
> 2018-10-24  4:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s audio question Hi All, I apologize in advance, as
> this is going to be a long post.  I will try to include all the relevant
> information, so not many questions are left unanswered.
>
> I recently bought a K3s and got rid of my K3 rigs.  The K3s is located at
> my Ohio QTH (remote radio) and hooked up properly to the PC, which is Win7
> 64 bit, running the latest OS updates.
>
> To operate remotely, while in Texas, I use all software, no RemoteRig.
> The software I use for radio control is Win4Ksuite (I have been
> corresponding with Tom and he suggested I ask this group), N1MM for
> contesting and logging.  I run com0com to allow the virtual comports to run
> both Win4K3suite and N1MM simultaneously.  I run 2 instances (with different
> Id's) of Skype, so I have audio and can see my P3 via webcam.  Included
> hardware is a Winkeyer.  The K3s and Winkeyer are properly configured in
> N1MM.  This setup has worked flawlessly for several years.
>
> *The only difference is I went from a K3 to a K3s... no other changes.*
>
> The K3s came with firmware version 5.62.  When I used the remote setup
> last time (in August 2018) it worked perfectly.  The K3 then, had version
> 5.60.
> I have updated the K3s with firmware version 5.60 and still experience the
> issue.
>
> The ISSUE... whenever I hit a key on the control station keyboard, makes
> no difference which key, the audio will "mute" for a couple of characters,
> then pop back on strong.  It makes no difference if I have Win4K3suite &
> N1MM running, just Win4K3suite running or nothing other than Skype and the
> radio on, the moment I hit a key, the audio is muted momentarily!
>
> Any suggestions on a remedy would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
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From eric at elecraft.com  Wed Oct 24 20:44:29 2018
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:44:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 not amplifying
In-Reply-To: <20181022210304.E1937149B179@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20181022210304.E1937149B179@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <782e2526-c0a7-3dea-70e4-15f0db8f98da@elecraft.com>

Hi Bob - Have you run the K3 TX gain calibration on each band into a dummy load 
(or very low SWR Ant.) ??? If that is out of cal, it could easily create 
symptoms like this.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/22/2018 2:02 PM, n7wy via Elecraft wrote:
> Turns out, it is not the KPA1500 not amplifying, but rather the KPA3A final amplifier stage in my K3S is acting like it has tubes, not FETs.? It has to warm up at 30 watts out, and then the power can? be reduced to 20 watts.? Weirdly, changing the power level above 20 watts seems to reset tbe behavior so it has to be warmed again.? The KPA3A module that is present is the 2nd replacement/exchange.? The first 2 had high 2 tone IMD issues on SSB.
> My trustworthy K3 is now driving tbe KPA1500 without issues.
> Thanks for all the off reflector counsel and 73,
> Bob R? n7wy
>


From indians at xsmail.com  Thu Oct 25 13:22:24 2018
From: indians at xsmail.com (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:22:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 2m external amplifier
In-Reply-To: <CALuSmOfqWsHod=ZHWTno_WkVNtkis+OE2AcjEJKNp4UZRwzBjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d26316b-bbaf-47d2-c44a-37e511e3add8@plantron.se>
	<CALuSmOfqWsHod=ZHWTno_WkVNtkis+OE2AcjEJKNp4UZRwzBjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1540488144046-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Dear Tim

where did you bought these 320Gs please? I am looking for them too but no
luck here in EU.

Thanks,



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From stevesgt at effable.com  Thu Oct 25 13:36:58 2018
From: stevesgt at effable.com (Steve Sergeant)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:36:58 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] First test of the AX-1
Message-ID: <d1fa65a3-be54-2894-7f13-4338d0621f7d@effable.com>

I received my AX-1 yesterday.

This morning, I took a 30 min. break at a local park with my KX2,
laptop, and the AX-1 with provided counterpoise.

Seated at a steel picnic table in a nearby city park, with the AX-1
connected to the radio through a BNC elbow, I caught and made, among
others, the following WSPR spots:

HEARD:
WB3DZC: FM07ux at 3800km
KE7A: EM12kx at 2295km

HEARD-BY:
AI6VN/KH6: BL10rx at 3798km
VE3OWV: FN15vk at 3857km
ND1C: EL99jl at 3844km

It's a keeper!

--... ...--
KC6ZKT, CM97bj

From hs0zed at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 02:06:04 2018
From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:06:04 +0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Main and sub S meter readings different.
Message-ID: <3d956fbe-79a9-de39-3af5-ce93768f8802@gmail.com>

This is hardly a significant matter but it's been bugging me. Just gotta 
know!

My K3 is an early radio S/N 298. works great receiver has 13k, 2.8k, 
1.8k and 400Hz filters . About a year ago I added a KRX3A sub receiver 
which has just the 2.7k filter. It works fine but the S meter shows 
significantly different to the main receiver.

I have done the receiver gain calibration using the K3 utility for both 
main and sub receivers and set the main receiver S meter as per the 
manual in the CONFIG menu. No settings for the sub receiver S meter???

As per the manual after adjusting, pre-amp on, S mtr nor, 50uV = S9 on 
the main receiver but sub receiver with the pre-amp on shows S9+20dB.

Varying the bandwidths and signal levels makes little difference and the 
variation between main and sub receiver S meter readings remains quite 
large.

How can I correct this to achieve similar values on both receivers?

Friends K3 with sub both of similar vintage and both with same filters 
doesn't show any variation.

Is this just down to roofing filters?

Martin, HS0ZED


From ed.n3cw at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 08:13:01 2018
From: ed.n3cw at gmail.com (Ed G)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:13:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Status Displayed on K3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4133.1540392779.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.4133.1540392779.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <5bd304cd.1c69fb81.a8053.b95e@mx.google.com>

I can?t think of a lower priority issue to have?.so here is my question.  I have the KPA1500 and K3 cabled together. Why do status changes on the amp (for example when I switch the amp to standby) show on the K3 screen as ?KPA500? and not ?KPA1500??  It looks like there is room on the K3 display for the missing digit, but maybe there is a display limitation? Amp firmware rev is 1.64.
--Ed?


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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 26 09:38:26 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 09:38:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Status Displayed on K3
In-Reply-To: <5bd304cd.1c69fb81.a8053.b95e@mx.google.com>
References: <mailman.4133.1540392779.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5bd304cd.1c69fb81.a8053.b95e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <26f6542d-b647-0fa1-f80d-8abe93063e68@embarqmail.com>

Ed,

I am not certain of the answer, but the K3 to KPA500 or the KPA1500 is 
the same.  So either the K3 firmware cannot distinguish between the two 
or that the K3 firmware has not been updated to detect the KPA500 from 
the KPA1500.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 8:13 AM, Ed G wrote:
> I can?t think of a lower priority issue to have?.so here is my question.  I have the KPA1500 and K3 cabled together. Why do status changes on the amp (for example when I switch the amp to standby) show on the K3 screen as ?KPA500? and not ?KPA1500??  It looks like there is room on the K3 display for the missing digit, but maybe there is a display limitation? Amp firmware rev is 1.64.

From n1rj at roadrunner.com  Fri Oct 26 09:50:53 2018
From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 09:50:53 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Status Displayed on K3
In-Reply-To: <5bd304cd.1c69fb81.a8053.b95e@mx.google.com>
References: <mailman.4133.1540392779.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5bd304cd.1c69fb81.a8053.b95e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <e430c511-d2c8-0657-df2b-a81c3997a935@roadrunner.com>

The display of the K3 is "hard coded". When it was designed, there was no
KPA1500 hence it can only read KPA500.

73, Roger


On 10/26/2018 8:13 AM, Ed G wrote:
> I can?t think of a lower priority issue to have?.so here is my question.  I have the KPA1500 and K3 cabled together. Why do status changes on the amp (for example when I switch the amp to standby) show on the K3 screen as ?KPA500? and not ?KPA1500??  It looks like there is room on the K3 display for the missing digit, but maybe there is a display limitation? Amp firmware rev is 1.64.
> --Ed?
> 
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From ve2fww at globetrotter.net  Fri Oct 26 12:19:26 2018
From: ve2fww at globetrotter.net (NOEL POULIN)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:19:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and the KPA500
Message-ID: <482d3ca3-b5ba-5319-d10f-69cc3f0fa9d9@globetrotter.net>

Hello,
One of my friend is making a cable to key the KPA500 with his KX3.
According to the book, the KPA500 Pa Key must be connected to the ACC2 
2.5mm? plug as follow....SHELL and RING? not TIP...
I read that in the erratas section....
It is right like that??or shell and tip???
Thanks
Noel

From w8fn at tx.rr.com  Fri Oct 26 13:01:55 2018
From: w8fn at tx.rr.com (Randy Farmer)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:01:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
Message-ID: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>

First sent this to Skip rather than the list...

> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction 
> of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is issued 
> to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the horizon 
> for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's absolutely NO 
> reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits by itself once 
> they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain every couple of 
> months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get it fixed.
>
> 73...
> Randy, W8FN
>
> On 8/31/2018 5:07 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> FW: 1.60
>> Fixed Tune mode
>> No SVGA
>> Connected to K3 RS-232 serial port
>>
>> The "span window" on my P3 will often move up by exactly 5 KHz when I 
>> change bands.? For example, on 40 with a 20 KHz span and the span 
>> window going from 7020 to 7040, if I go to another band and then come 
>> back to 40, the span will now be 7025 to 7045.? Is this normal?? Have 
>> I missed a menu option?
>>
>> It does this most of the time, sometimes the span window stays put 
>> where I left it.? I think it has some connection to where in the span 
>> window the cursor is, but so far, I haven't been able to reverse 
>> engineer that.? I'd really like it to retain whatever span window 
>> limits I've set for each band.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 26 13:50:29 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:50:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and the KPA500
In-Reply-To: <482d3ca3-b5ba-5319-d10f-69cc3f0fa9d9@globetrotter.net>
References: <482d3ca3-b5ba-5319-d10f-69cc3f0fa9d9@globetrotter.net>
Message-ID: <7aa932cd-c87c-8c0b-3d53-b12c58b3189e@embarqmail.com>

Noel,

The answer is on page 5 of the KX3 manual.  The Keyline Out signal is on 
the ring.  The tip is the GPIO input.  Of course, the shell is common 
(ground).

So connect to the ring and shell.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 12:19 PM, NOEL POULIN wrote:
> Hello,
> One of my friend is making a cable to key the KPA500 with his KX3.
> According to the book, the KPA500 Pa Key must be connected to the ACC2 
> 2.5mm? plug as follow....SHELL and RING? not TIP...
> I read that in the erratas section....
> It is right like that??or shell and tip???

From k9ma at sdellington.us  Fri Oct 26 14:12:13 2018
From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:12:13 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9D62F488-6C48-4862-9067-C9ED8F034D1E@sdellington.us>

I haven't noticed that large a shift, but sometimes 0.5 kHz or so.

Scott K9MA 

----------

Scott Ellington

 --- via iPad

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Randy Farmer <w8fn at tx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
> 
>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is issued to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the horizon for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's absolutely NO reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits by itself once they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain every couple of months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get it fixed.
>> 
>> 73...
>> Randy, W8FN
>> 
>>> On 8/31/2018 5:07 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>> FW: 1.60
>>> Fixed Tune mode
>>> No SVGA
>>> Connected to K3 RS-232 serial port
>>> 
>>> The "span window" on my P3 will often move up by exactly 5 KHz when I change bands.  For example, on 40 with a 20 KHz span and the span window going from 7020 to 7040, if I go to another band and then come back to 40, the span will now be 7025 to 7045.  Is this normal?  Have I missed a menu option?
>>> 
>>> It does this most of the time, sometimes the span window stays put where I left it.  I think it has some connection to where in the span window the cursor is, but so far, I haven't been able to reverse engineer that.  I'd really like it to retain whatever span window limits I've set for each band.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>> 
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From ab4iq at comcast.net  Fri Oct 26 14:28:55 2018
From: ab4iq at comcast.net (AB4IQ)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:28:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <9D62F488-6C48-4862-9067-C9ED8F034D1E@sdellington.us>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
	<9D62F488-6C48-4862-9067-C9ED8F034D1E@sdellington.us>
Message-ID: <009801d46d59$c1d51070$457f3150$@comcast.net>

I just went thru my 2 K3S's and K3 all attached to different P3's with my
cable attached to the P3's comm ports and for some reason do not have the
same issue.  My span limits on all three have stayed the same from 6 to 160
meters.  I'm using three different PC's with two of them using Windows 10
Pro and one using Windows 7 Pro.  I used Dxbase to change the frequency of
all three rigs from Cluster spots.  Don't know why mine doesn't have the
same issues.  Luck I guess..

Ed.. AB4IQ

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From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K9MA
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:12 PM
To: w8fn at tx.rr.com
Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands

I haven't noticed that large a shift, but sometimes 0.5 kHz or so.

Scott K9MA 

----------

Scott Ellington

 --- via iPad

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Randy Farmer <w8fn at tx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
> 
>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction of
the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is issued to the
radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the horizon for curing this
extremely annoying "feature"? There's absolutely NO reason for the P3 to
decide to change the span limits by itself once they've been set up on a
band. Maybe if we complain every couple of months someone at Elecraft will
take notice and get it fixed.
>> 
>> 73...
>> Randy, W8FN
>> 
>>> On 8/31/2018 5:07 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>> FW: 1.60
>>> Fixed Tune mode
>>> No SVGA
>>> Connected to K3 RS-232 serial port
>>> 
>>> The "span window" on my P3 will often move up by exactly 5 KHz when I
change bands.  For example, on 40 with a 20 KHz span and the span window
going from 7020 to 7040, if I go to another band and then come back to 40,
the span will now be 7025 to 7045.  Is this normal?  Have I missed a menu
option?
>>> 
>>> It does this most of the time, sometimes the span window stays put where
I left it.  I think it has some connection to where in the span window the
cursor is, but so far, I haven't been able to reverse engineer that.  I'd
really like it to retain whatever span window limits I've set for each band.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>> 
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From kq8m at kq8m.com  Fri Oct 26 15:58:07 2018
From: kq8m at kq8m.com (kq8m at kq8m.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:58:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>

Hi,

 

I have been trying ot find the software for the W2 computer control. I found
the app to update the firmware but cannot find the control software. Does
anyone know where I can find it?

 

Thank you and 73

Tim, KQ8M

kq8m at kq8m.com

 


From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 16:14:27 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:14:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
Message-ID: <501B0172-4A1B-487C-AB18-1B806EF4B168@gmail.com>

It?s under Test Equipment on the Support page.

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 3:58 PM, <kq8m at kq8m.com> <kq8m at kq8m.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I have been trying ot find the software for the W2 computer control. I found
> the app to update the firmware but cannot find the control software. Does
> anyone know where I can find it?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you and 73
> 
> Tim, KQ8M
> 
> kq8m at kq8m.com
> 
> 
> 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 26 16:20:14 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:20:14 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
Message-ID: <916f5dff-9fef-3921-3683-c9a64a38567f@embarqmail.com>

Tim,

It is on the new Elecraft website.
Go to www.elecraft.com and click on SUPPORT
Then on the page that opens, click on Firmware and Software
On that page, click on Test Equipment Line Firmware and Software
Lastly click on W2 Firmware and Utility.  The Utility link is located 
near the bottom of that page.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 3:58 PM, kq8m at kq8m.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   
> 
> I have been trying ot find the software for the W2 computer control. I found
> the app to update the firmware but cannot find the control software. Does
> anyone know where I can find it?

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Oct 26 16:52:08 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:52:08 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>

It may be a timing issue.? It only happens when the software [N1MM+ in 
my case] sends a frequency command.? It rarely happens for me when I 
make the first frequency change.? Returning to the first band, it 
usually happens.? And you're right, it is annoying.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/26/2018 10:01 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
>
>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction 
>> of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is 
>> issued to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the 
>> horizon for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's 
>> absolutely NO reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits 
>> by itself once they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain 
>> every couple of months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get 
>> it fixed.
>>
>> 73...
>> Randy, W8FN
>>


From kq8m at kq8m.com  Fri Oct 26 16:57:41 2018
From: kq8m at kq8m.com (kq8m at kq8m.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:57:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
In-Reply-To: <916f5dff-9fef-3921-3683-c9a64a38567f@embarqmail.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
	<916f5dff-9fef-3921-3683-c9a64a38567f@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAACiClWAR1jxHhL08aQMNipwBAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>

Thanks to all who answered so quickly. I misunderstood what was what. I was under the impression that the utility was mainly for updating the firmware. I was wrong. Thanks for setting me straight.

73
Tim, KQ8M
kq8m at kq8m.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 16:20
To: kq8m at kq8m.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W2 Software

Tim,

It is on the new Elecraft website.
Go to www.elecraft.com and click on SUPPORT
Then on the page that opens, click on Firmware and Software
On that page, click on Test Equipment Line Firmware and Software
Lastly click on W2 Firmware and Utility.  The Utility link is located 
near the bottom of that page.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 3:58 PM, kq8m at kq8m.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   
> 
> I have been trying ot find the software for the W2 computer control. I found
> the app to update the firmware but cannot find the control software. Does
> anyone know where I can find it?


From ab4iq at comcast.net  Fri Oct 26 17:12:51 2018
From: ab4iq at comcast.net (AB4IQ)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:12:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
	<9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <010901d46d70$a8549ff0$f8fddfd0$@comcast.net>

I guess maybe I need to fire up N1MM+ to see what happens here.  Dxbase seems to work fine and so does DX4WIN.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:52 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands

It may be a timing issue.  It only happens when the software [N1MM+ in my case] sends a frequency command.  It rarely happens for me when I make the first frequency change.  Returning to the first band, it usually happens.  And you're right, it is annoying.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/26/2018 10:01 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
>
>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction 
>> of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is 
>> issued to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the 
>> horizon for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's 
>> absolutely NO reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits 
>> by itself once they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain 
>> every couple of months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get 
>> it fixed.
>>
>> 73...
>> Randy, W8FN
>>

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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 26 17:26:07 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
	<9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <ceabbed1-4189-ecbf-765e-bde5cc74e536@embarqmail.com>

I believe I heard of this "problem" before.  It needs to be addressed 
with the N1MM+ folks for a possible fix.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 4:52 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> It may be a timing issue.? It only happens when the software [N1MM+ in 
> my case] sends a frequency command.? It rarely happens for me when I 
> make the first frequency change.? Returning to the first band, it 
> usually happens.? And you're right, it is annoying.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 10/26/2018 10:01 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
>> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
>>
>>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction 
>>> of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is 
>>> issued to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the 
>>> horizon for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's 
>>> absolutely NO reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits 
>>> by itself once they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain 
>>> every couple of months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get 
>>> it fixed.

From ab4iq at comcast.net  Fri Oct 26 17:30:52 2018
From: ab4iq at comcast.net (AB4IQ)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <010901d46d70$a8549ff0$f8fddfd0$@comcast.net>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>	<9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>
	<010901d46d70$a8549ff0$f8fddfd0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <011301d46d73$2c582db0$85088910$@comcast.net>

Sorry guys but N1MM+ works fine here.  I went to several bands and modes
with no change in the P3's span.  I am running WIN4K3SUITE and COM0COM and
all three programs at the same time with no issues.  I am using just a
standard (Printer Cable) to the PC but it is connected to the K3S rather
than the P3.  I thought it ran to the P3 at first but after further
inspection I was wrong.  (as Usual)

Ed..AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AB4IQ
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 4:13 PM
To: 'Fred Jensen' <k6dgw at foothill.net>; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands

I guess maybe I need to fire up N1MM+ to see what happens here.  Dxbase
seems to work fine and so does DX4WIN.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:52 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands

It may be a timing issue.  It only happens when the software [N1MM+ in my
case] sends a frequency command.  It rarely happens for me when I make the
first frequency change.  Returning to the first band, it usually happens.
And you're right, it is annoying.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/26/2018 10:01 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
>
>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction 
>> of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is 
>> issued to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the 
>> horizon for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's 
>> absolutely NO reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits 
>> by itself once they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain 
>> every couple of months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get 
>> it fixed.
>>
>> 73...
>> Randy, W8FN
>>

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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Fri Oct 26 17:47:41 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 14:47:41 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <011301d46d73$2c582db0$85088910$@comcast.net>
References: <1d208461-9845-b9a5-c662-287cf27fff14@tx.rr.com>
	<9ed33506-55dd-fb19-1fce-199cc970c492@foothill.net>
	<010901d46d70$a8549ff0$f8fddfd0$@comcast.net>
	<011301d46d73$2c582db0$85088910$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <fc465e9a-3042-7bcc-78d4-e133f44a8aee@foothill.net>

I think that may be a clue Ed, my K3 is ancient [#642] but has current 
FW and new synth.? The computer connects to it and the P3 connects to 
the K3 serial port ... otherwise fixed-tune mode wouldn't work.? I've 
never seen the issue when changing bands with the BAND U/D switch, or 
from macros executed from the KPOD, only when the commands start at the 
computer and go thru the P3 to the K3.? N1MM+ is the only control 
software I use.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/26/2018 2:30 PM, AB4IQ wrote:
> Sorry guys but N1MM+ works fine here.  I went to several bands and modes
> with no change in the P3's span.  I am running WIN4K3SUITE and COM0COM and
> all three programs at the same time with no issues.  I am using just a
> standard (Printer Cable) to the PC but it is connected to the K3S rather
> than the P3.  I thought it ran to the P3 at first but after further
> inspection I was wrong.  (as Usual)
>
> Ed..AB4IQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AB4IQ
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 4:13 PM
> To: 'Fred Jensen' <k6dgw at foothill.net>; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
>
> I guess maybe I need to fire up N1MM+ to see what happens here.  Dxbase
> seems to work fine and so does DX4WIN.
>
> Ed.. AB4IQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:52 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
>
> It may be a timing issue.  It only happens when the software [N1MM+ in my
> case] sends a frequency command.  It rarely happens for me when I make the
> first frequency change.  Returning to the first band, it usually happens.
> And you're right, it is annoying.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 10/26/2018 10:01 AM, Randy Farmer wrote:
>> First sent this to Skip rather than the list...
>>
>>> This appears to have been a problem from the time of the introduction
>>> of the P3. It seems to be triggered when a frequency command is
>>> issued to the radio via the P3 comm port. Is there any hope on the
>>> horizon for curing this extremely annoying "feature"? There's
>>> absolutely NO reason for the P3 to decide to change the span limits
>>> by itself once they've been set up on a band. Maybe if we complain
>>> every couple of months someone at Elecraft will take notice and get
>>> it fixed.
>>>
>>> 73...
>>> Randy, W8FN
>>>
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Fri Oct 26 19:46:26 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:46:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <fc465e9a-3042-7bcc-78d4-e133f44a8aee@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-50B63937F1AC4B058A4C25E06E4C6672@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I have the same problem with wsjt-x running from a Mac. When I 
change bands, the center frequency changes. Very annoying since 
it moves part of the display outside of the 17M and 12M bands.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/26/18 at 2:47 PM, k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote:

>I think that may be a clue Ed, my K3 is ancient [#642] but has 
>current FW and new synth.? The computer connects to it and the 
>P3 connects to the K3 serial port ... otherwise fixed-tune mode 
>wouldn't work.? I've never seen the issue when changing bands 
>with the BAND U/D switch, or from macros executed from the 
>KPOD, only when the commands start at the computer and go thru 
>the P3 to the K3.? N1MM+ is the only control software I use.

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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 20:00:58 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:00:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <r480Ps-10136i-50B63937F1AC4B058A4C25E06E4C6672@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r480Ps-10136i-50B63937F1AC4B058A4C25E06E4C6672@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <3E2C0C3F-9B67-463D-8C98-05C7E90E7439@gmail.com>

Why do you presume it is a fault of the P3 and not something funky happening with whatever software you?re running on your PC?

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same problem with wsjt-x running from a Mac. When I change bands, the center frequency changes. Very annoying since it moves part of the display outside of the 17M and 12M bands.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 10/26/18 at 2:47 PM, k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote:
> 
>> I think that may be a clue Ed, my K3 is ancient [#642] but has current FW and new synth.  The computer connects to it and the P3 connects to the K3 serial port ... otherwise fixed-tune mode wouldn't work.  I've never seen the issue when changing bands with the BAND U/D switch, or from macros executed from the KPOD, only when the commands start at the computer and go thru the P3 to the K3.  N1MM+ is the only control software I use.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------


From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Fri Oct 26 20:09:57 2018
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:09:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] P3: Span limits move when changing bands
In-Reply-To: <3E2C0C3F-9B67-463D-8C98-05C7E90E7439@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r480Ps-10136i-35EE28335632491A808936703B10217B@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

It happens with two different OSs and two different programs. 
The best place to look first is the common elements.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/26/18 at 5:00 PM, ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) wrote:

>Why do you presume it is a fault of the P3 and not something 
>funky happening with whatever software you?re running on your PC?
>
>Grant NQ5T
>K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>
>>On Oct 26, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have the same problem with wsjt-x running from a Mac. When I change bands, the center frequency
>changes. Very annoying since it moves part of the display outside of the 17M and 12M bands.
>>
>>73 Bill AE6JV
>>
>>On 10/26/18 at 2:47 PM, k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote:
>>
>>> I think that may be a clue Ed, my K3 is ancient [#642] but has current FW and new synth.  The
>computer connects to it and the P3 connects to the K3 serial 
>port ... otherwise fixed-tune mode wouldn't work.  I've never 
>seen the issue when changing bands with the BAND U/D switch, or 
>from macros executed from the KPOD, only when the commands 
>start at the computer and go thru the P3 to the K3.  N1MM+ is 
>the only control software I use.
>>
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From hs0zed at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 22:21:39 2018
From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:21:39 +0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 crazy power output fault
Message-ID: <86a6d1ea-1cfc-5324-5df9-177c102533b4@gmail.com>

My K3F/100 S/N 298 has suffered a power output failure. Switched off 
last night everything normal and full power out as has always been the 
case. Switched on this morning and essentially nothing. The power meter 
flicks up and down like crazy. It's literally all over the shop. ALC 
shows a steady 7 bars when keyed, RF power meter on the K3 follows the 
LP100A, the odd flicker but essentially nothing. This is CW keyed at 
26wpm power meter is LP100A, then dummy load. Identical to last use 
yesterday but now its going crazy.\

What' shappened?

Martin, HS0ZED



From bobdehaney at gmx.net  Sat Oct 27 09:02:11 2018
From: bobdehaney at gmx.net (Bob DeHaney)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:02:11 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft New Web Presence
Message-ID: <001801d46df5$467cdbf0$d37693d0$@gmx.net>

Looks like there are some things to clean up.  Links on several of the web pages, for instance to PDFs, are dead links.  For example:  <https://elecraft.com/products/k1upkt_k1-upgrade-kit> https://elecraft.com/products/k1upkt_k1-upgrade-kit

 

The PDF and the firmware links are dead. I didn?t list all I found but there are several.

 

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T

 


From edauer at law.du.edu  Sat Oct 27 10:23:56 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:23:56 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] A Note on Keying Line from KX3 to KPA500
Message-ID: <978BBF86-A5AF-41AA-B2AC-30F485EB0E10@law.du.edu>

There was recently an exchange here about connecting the keying line from a KX3 to a KPA500 amp, specifically about which parts of a TRS plug to use.  There is an additional item of importance, which I believe I saw in one of Fred Cady?s texts.  If the operator is also using the KAT500 tuner, the keying line must go to the tuner first, then from the tuner to the amp.  The tuner is designed to inhibit the amp during a tuning cycle.  For that to happen, the key line should go from the KX3 to the KAT500 directly.  Maybe someone can confirm my recollection about this.

Ted, KN1CBR



From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 27 10:39:42 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:39:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] A Note on Keying Line from KX3 to KPA500
In-Reply-To: <978BBF86-A5AF-41AA-B2AC-30F485EB0E10@law.du.edu>
References: <978BBF86-A5AF-41AA-B2AC-30F485EB0E10@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <9d4c3d51-2a42-341b-8ad5-512166231353@embarqmail.com>

Ted,

That is exactly right.  The KAT500 manual explains it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/27/2018 10:23 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> There was recently an exchange here about connecting the keying line from a KX3 to a KPA500 amp, specifically about which parts of a TRS plug to use.  There is an additional item of importance, which I believe I saw in one of Fred Cady?s texts.  If the operator is also using the KAT500 tuner, the keying line must go to the tuner first, then from the tuner to the amp.  The tuner is designed to inhibit the amp during a tuning cycle.  For that to happen, the key line should go from the KX3 to the KAT500 directly.  Maybe someone can confirm my recollection about this.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR

From softblue at windstream.net  Sat Oct 27 16:44:47 2018
From: softblue at windstream.net (Dick Dickinson)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 16:44:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Web Page Note
Message-ID: <000901d46e35$e686c120$b3944360$@windstream.net>

I was attempting to download the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor.  It
evoked an Alert:  550 Failed to change directory.  I do have a copy of the
latest, so no loss for me.

 

.just FYI for the site manager.

 

 

Kindly,

Dick - KA5KKT

 


From dflem at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 27 17:00:37 2018
From: dflem at yahoo.com (David Fleming)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAACiClWAR1jxHhL08aQMNipwBAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
	<916f5dff-9fef-3921-3683-c9a64a38567f@embarqmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAACiClWAR1jxHhL08aQMNipwBAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
Message-ID: <1401359194.17499903.1540674037682@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Tim,

You are right. The W2 Utility is used mainly for updating the firmware. I believe you are looking for the W2 Interface software. The new web site doesn't appear to have a link on the software page, but by typing "W2" in the Search box I was able to find it. Scroll about half way down the page to find the W2 Interface software.

https://elecraft.com/pages/w2-wattmeter-swr-bridge-software

Best 73,

David, W4SMT


On Friday, October 26, 2018, 4:58:31 PM EDT, <kq8m at kq8m.com> wrote: 


Thanks to all who answered so quickly. I misunderstood what was what. I was under the impression that the utility was mainly for updating the firmware. I was wrong. Thanks for setting me straight.

73
Tim, KQ8M
kq8m at kq8m.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 16:20
To: kq8m at kq8m.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W2 Software

Tim,

It is on the new Elecraft website.
Go to www.elecraft.com and click on SUPPORT
Then on the page that opens, click on Firmware and Software
On that page, click on Test Equipment Line Firmware and Software
Lastly click on W2 Firmware and Utility.? The Utility link is located 
near the bottom of that page.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 3:58 PM, kq8m at kq8m.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>? 
> 
> I have been trying ot find the software for the W2 computer control. I found
> the app to update the firmware but cannot find the control software. Does
> anyone know where I can find it?


From w9lsl at arrl.net  Sat Oct 27 18:17:20 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (Ken Ford - W9LSL)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:17:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
Message-ID: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

One of the things I really like about the KX2 is the hole for a mini-banana
jack counterpoise connection.  Is there any place that could be added on a
KX3?  The case thumbscrews get cranky at times. 

Ken Ford W9LSL



--
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From kq8m at kq8m.com  Sat Oct 27 18:44:32 2018
From: kq8m at kq8m.com (kq8m at kq8m.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:44:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
In-Reply-To: <1401359194.17499903.1540674037682@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAFWzXscNRWJLooS+7NS8aT4BAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
	<916f5dff-9fef-3921-3683-c9a64a38567f@embarqmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAACiClWAR1jxHhL08aQMNipwBAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>
	<1401359194.17499903.1540674037682@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJYHBT4PybpNnpOy6DHA0yfCgAAAEAAAAC+IZ5XfWMlFj367ZtqFj4sBAAAAAA==@kq8m.com>

Thank you, David.

That is exactly what I am looking for. I am also thinking of writing a little utility to display the data.

On that page is a link that is supposed to go to a mod for the W2 but it goes to the serial interface commands file. I think Elecraft is having trouble with their new design. Oh well, they will get it fixed.

73
Tim, KQ8M
kq8m at kq8m.com

-----Original Message-----
From: David Fleming [mailto:dflem at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 17:01
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net; kq8m at kq8m.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W2 Software

Hello Tim,

You are right. The W2 Utility is used mainly for updating the firmware. I believe you are looking for the W2 Interface software. The new web site doesn't appear to have a link on the software page, but by typing "W2" in the Search box I was able to find it. Scroll about half way down the page to find the W2 Interface software.

https://elecraft.com/pages/w2-wattmeter-swr-bridge-software

Best 73,

David, W4SMT


On Friday, October 26, 2018, 4:58:31 PM EDT, <kq8m at kq8m.com> wrote: 


Thanks to all who answered so quickly. I misunderstood what was what. I was under the impression that the utility was mainly for updating the firmware. I was wrong. Thanks for setting me straight.

73
Tim, KQ8M
kq8m at kq8m.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 16:20
To: kq8m at kq8m.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W2 Software

Tim,

It is on the new Elecraft website.
Go to www.elecraft.com and click on SUPPORT
Then on the page that opens, click on Firmware and Software
On that page, click on Test Equipment Line Firmware and Software
Lastly click on W2 Firmware and Utility.  The Utility link is located 
near the bottom of that page.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2018 3:58 PM, kq8m at kq8m.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I have been trying ot find the software for the W2 computer control. I found
> the app to update the firmware but cannot find the control software. Does
> anyone know where I can find it?


From kengkopp at gmail.com  Sat Oct 27 18:49:29 2018
From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 16:49:29 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
In-Reply-To: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAD4CdTNePQjgDTO=93cVr7vy=wc4HNXBgb4HfCJE_TyeNmJjjA@mail.gmail.com>

Adding two flat washers under the knurled screw heads would likely help.

73 !

K0PP

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 16:17 Ken Ford - W9LSL <w9lsl at arrl.net> wrote:

> One of the things I really like about the KX2 is the hole for a mini-banana
> jack counterpoise connection.  Is there any place that could be added on a
> KX3?  The case thumbscrews get cranky at times.
>
> Ken Ford W9LSL
>
>
>
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From Gary at ka1j.com  Sat Oct 27 18:57:20 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:57:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3
In-Reply-To: <5BCCFB4E.5664.EAE6A2C@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <201810212013.w9LKDVqJ012206@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>,
	<5BCCFB4E.5664.EAE6A2C@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <5BD4ED50.15172.16E22F5@Gary.ka1j.com>

The issue seems to be within the K3, 
likely the K3EXREF board? I just tried a 
different GPSDO for the 10MHz reference, a 
Trimble Thunderbolt. When I first 
connected the Thunderbolt I did get a 
rapid flashing asterisk.

Satisfied I went on to use the K3. On a 
hunch I went back to REF CAL and 
discovered the asterisk was now solid and 
not flashing. I restarted the radio and no 
asterisk in REF CAL. Neither GPSDO elicits 
a flashing asterisk but both are putting 
out a 10MHZ signal & the Thunderbolt for a 
short time, worked.

Seeing as two different oscillators are 
not being recognized by the K3, I have to 
assume it is the K3EXREF board that is of 
issue. Can't be the .1 TXCO or the radio 
would fail.

I'll have to contact Elecraft to see if 
it's worth sending the board in for 
repair.

Back to the contest.

73,

Gary
KA1J


> Ed,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. I do need an 
> oscilloscope. The only frequency counter 
> at this QTH is this K3, my K3s is at the 
> factory for an issue with SSB. 
> 
> That said, there does appear to be a 10MHz 
> signal coming from the GPSDO. There's 
> enough bleed-through that when I tune to 
> 10MHz I can still pick up the ticks from 
> WWV, however removing power from the GPSDO 
> and the signal drops considerably. I 
> connected 10' of wire to the center 
> conductor of the SMA and the signal in the 
> K3 increased considerably and it was dead 
> on top of WWV. So I'm feeling it's putting 
> out a signal at 10MHV but the strength or 
> condition of the signal, I have no way to 
> tell.
> 
> Looking at the info on the K3EXREF, the 
> Tech MD is on, REF CAL is displayed and I 
> need to engage keypad #2 to switch between 
> the EXREF being in or out, I have it 
> switched in. No asterisk.
> 
> I have not been inside the radio since I 
> started using it a week ago and the 
> asterisk was flashing at that time. I 
> saved the current configuration and loaded 
> the configuration that was good the last 
> time I used the radio and that didn't 
> help. I can't imagine the cable in the 
> radio failed without any mechanical 
> action. I'll have to take a look and see 
> if anything has become somehow dislodged 
> though it's been just sitting on the 
> table.
> 
> I was hoping it was something in a setting 
> that might have been altered and it seems 
> like that's not it. Thanks again for the 
> assistance.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Gary,
> > 
> > Well first thing I would check is whether 10-MHz is present at the
> > K3 EXREF sma jack.  If you have a freq counter check for correct
> > freq. No counter then use a radio that can tune 10-MHz for presence
> > of signal on correct freq.
> > 
> > Check for adequate reference level (I run 10mw which is more than
> > adequate; probably will run with 3mw to 5mw).  If you have no
> > milliwatt meter then use an oscilloscope to measure RF voltage.  Pav
> > = Vrms^2/R  or Vrms = 0.3535*Vp-p*probe multiplier.
> > 
> > From: http://www.ab4oj.com/test/pwrmeas.html
> > Pav = 10*10^-3 = 0.01 w , Vrms = sqrt(Pav*R) = 0.707v, Vp-p =
> > 2,.828*Vrms = 2v
> > 
> > If you are using a 10x probe Vp-p = 0.2v; Be sure to measure voltage
> > across 50-ohm load connected to the REF input.
> > 
> > If this is low or nonexistent try a different cable from the 
> > GPSDO.  Also check 10-MHz output at the GPSDO.
> > 
> > My guess either you have no 10-MHz ref signal or its off 
> > frequency.  If that is good then recheck configuration to enable
> > EXREF.  Still bad: then check internal coax from EXREF connector to
> > syn  board.
> > 
> > 73, Ed - KL7UW
> >    http://www.kl7uw.com
> > Dubus-NA Business mail:
> >    dubususa at gmail.com 
> > 
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 27 19:04:10 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 19:04:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
In-Reply-To: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <a774ddae-af5e-cac2-89de-fcb78226070b@embarqmail.com>

Ken,

I don't know about mounting a mini-banana jack, but you could look at 
the left end of the heatsink (heatsink facing you) for a good grounding 
point other than the thumbscrews.

Installing a mini-banana jack would involve drilling holes in the case. 
There is not a lot of free space to do that.  Pick your mounting 
location carefully before drilling to be sure it will not interfere with 
anything in the KX3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/27/2018 6:17 PM, Ken Ford - W9LSL wrote:
> One of the things I really like about the KX2 is the hole for a mini-banana
> jack counterpoise connection.  Is there any place that could be added on a
> KX3?  The case thumbscrews get cranky at times.
> 

From rich at wc3t.us  Sat Oct 27 19:19:43 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 19:19:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
In-Reply-To: <a774ddae-af5e-cac2-89de-fcb78226070b@embarqmail.com>
References: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<a774ddae-af5e-cac2-89de-fcb78226070b@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABYU7WgPHVQ0QdMDwAUU6toYz_afOkP-swMKhamVyEs+GNXv7w@mail.gmail.com>

I have a little pigtail with a PowerPole connector on it. Folds nicely out
of the way.

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 19:04 Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> I don't know about mounting a mini-banana jack, but you could look at
> the left end of the heatsink (heatsink facing you) for a good grounding
> point other than the thumbscrews.
>
> Installing a mini-banana jack would involve drilling holes in the case.
> There is not a lot of free space to do that.  Pick your mounting
> location carefully before drilling to be sure it will not interfere with
> anything in the KX3.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/27/2018 6:17 PM, Ken Ford - W9LSL wrote:
> > One of the things I really like about the KX2 is the hole for a
> mini-banana
> > jack counterpoise connection.  Is there any place that could be added on
> a
> > KX3?  The case thumbscrews get cranky at times.
> >
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Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Oct 27 21:09:50 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:09:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
In-Reply-To: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540678640477-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <d3cb3a79-68fb-2f03-46da-c2f2c6475663@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/27/2018 3:17 PM, Ken Ford - W9LSL wrote:
> One of the things I really like about the KX2 is the hole for a mini-banana
> jack counterpoise connection.

When I want to run that sort of portable setup, I simply plug a BNC male 
to Pomona (double banana) adapter onto the KX3 output.

https://www.pomonaelectronics.com/products/adapters/bnc-m-binding-posts

73, Jim K9YC


From ch at murgatroid.com  Sat Oct 27 23:04:55 2018
From: ch at murgatroid.com (Christopher Hoover)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:04:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Talk At Pacificon -- 9 AM Saturday: "Honey
 I Shrunk the Linear.."
In-Reply-To: <047d24be-392e-bbac-bff9-62504e2322c4@elecraft.com>
References: <e41159b4-c8dd-3f1e-7efc-cf556fd60a64@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<047d24be-392e-bbac-bff9-62504e2322c4@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CACw0PsaUKyXevccMucxkTNbiMFZDujZfYLnCGswkLSYXTrCmGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eric,

Is the presentation available online?

(I was at Pacificon, but my waking hours were used to help run the special
event station.)

73 de AI6KG


On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 6:51 PM Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
eric at elecraft.com> wrote:

> I will also be giving a talk at Pacificon on this Saturday at 9 AM Titled:
>
> "Building a Modern Solid-State Amplifier
>                            -or-
>        Honey, I shrunk the Linear!"
>
> I'll be covering our KPA1500 design goals and what it takes to manufacture
> and
> test a modern solid state amplifier like the KPA1500, followed with
> general Q&A
> from the audience.
>
> See you all there!
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
>
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Oct 28 00:05:28 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:05:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <712384ac-8f0e-ba65-ac2a-65324111b477@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? I know winter is approaching.? The sun has dropped so low in the sky 
the mountain blocks it for much of the day.? I see it when it comes up, 
a little around noon, and then just before it sets. However, the 
non-stop rain creates a deeper layer to the gloom. In the satellite 
photos there is a steady stream of clouds coming in from the southwest.

 ?? Wind from the sun is due in a few days.? That will enhance the 
ionosphere.? The lower sun angle tomorrow should help propagation.? If 
it works well I won't change the times the following week.? Like the sun 
the times remain in flux.

Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 ? 7047 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

_


From lists at w2irt.net  Sun Oct 28 00:36:40 2018
From: lists at w2irt.net (Peter Dougherty (W2IRT))
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:36:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
In-Reply-To: <276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
References: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
Message-ID: <009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>

Hi all.
Early into CQWW this weekend I was getting reports of extremely distorted
audio from my K3s. Being mostly a CW (and 6m FT8) operator I wasn't sure
what was going on. I figured it was RF, but it was happening at all power
levels, from QRP to 100W, and QRO with my KPA-1500. Same (bad) audio, just
stronger/weaker signals. All bands were equally bad.

I ended up going from the radio directly to the tower, physically bypassing
the amp and tuner, and only running low power, with the same result. It
sounded more like distorted audio than RF ingress.

Some troubleshooting by Dave, WO2X, who is a Flex owner: He remoted in to
his Flex a few miles away and noticed my garbled signal was absolutely dirty
and wide, despite low mic gain and little or no compression. The audio
sounded clean through the monitor, so it wasn't the audio chain. He's
speculating I may have a blown FET in the PA stage. 

We put in a Flex 6500 temporarily and it seems to be running fine. Wondering
if anybody here has had experience with this, and if so, what are my next
steps?

Thanks in advance.

---------------------------------------------
73 and Good DX
Peter, W2IRT

K3s S/N 10023



From k1ike at snet.net  Sun Oct 28 09:21:56 2018
From: k1ike at snet.net (Joe)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 09:21:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Software
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4569.1540701409.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.4569.1540701409.2969.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <b5268488-3aa0-6d6e-3bc7-881801da5d73@snet.net>

Now I'm confused.  The web site says that the W2 Current Production 
Firmware is V1.00, 4-12-2010.

When I look at my remote station using the W2 Interface Ver 1.12.1.18 
W4SMT software, the bottom of the screen says "Connected to W2 ver 1.07" 
  Why the difference?

K1ike, Joe

From edauer at law.du.edu  Sun Oct 28 09:47:26 2018
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
Message-ID: <B9736C72-A1EE-4A2B-96C1-30D0783A4307@law.du.edu>

    The BNC-BP adapter is also available from Elecraft.  It's under KX3 accessories on the order page at $9.95.

Ted, KN1CBR
    
    ------------------------------
    
    Message: 23
    Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:09:50 -0700
    From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
    To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to
    	a KX3?
    Message-ID:
    	<d3cb3a79-68fb-2f03-46da-c2f2c6475663 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
    
    On 10/27/2018 3:17 PM, Ken Ford - W9LSL wrote:
    > One of the things I really like about the KX2 is the hole for a mini-banana
    > jack counterpoise connection.
    
    When I want to run that sort of portable setup, I simply plug a BNC male 
    to Pomona (double banana) adapter onto the KX3 output.
    
    https://www.pomonaelectronics.com/products/adapters/bnc-m-binding-posts
    
    73, Jim K9YC
    
    
    


From k9yeq at live.com  Sun Oct 28 10:15:03 2018
From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill Johnson)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:15:03 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
In-Reply-To: <009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>
References: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>,
	<009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>
Message-ID: <SN6PR05MB4288D0C4B87B61FD9C4D17979CF20@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

I did and sent in to factory to fix.
Bil
K9YEQ

Bill
920-421-1172

________________________________
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:36:40 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio

Hi all.
Early into CQWW this weekend I was getting reports of extremely distorted
audio from my K3s. Being mostly a CW (and 6m FT8) operator I wasn't sure
what was going on. I figured it was RF, but it was happening at all power
levels, from QRP to 100W, and QRO with my KPA-1500. Same (bad) audio, just
stronger/weaker signals. All bands were equally bad.

I ended up going from the radio directly to the tower, physically bypassing
the amp and tuner, and only running low power, with the same result. It
sounded more like distorted audio than RF ingress.

Some troubleshooting by Dave, WO2X, who is a Flex owner: He remoted in to
his Flex a few miles away and noticed my garbled signal was absolutely dirty
and wide, despite low mic gain and little or no compression. The audio
sounded clean through the monitor, so it wasn't the audio chain. He's
speculating I may have a blown FET in the PA stage.

We put in a Flex 6500 temporarily and it seems to be running fine. Wondering
if anybody here has had experience with this, and if so, what are my next
steps?

Thanks in advance.

---------------------------------------------
73 and Good DX
Peter, W2IRT

K3s S/N 10023


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From rocketnj at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 10:21:57 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (Dave)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:21:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR05MB4288D0C4B87B61FD9C4D17979CF20@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
	<009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>
	<SN6PR05MB4288D0C4B87B61FD9C4D17979CF20@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <C8F51333-F2D8-4F75-86BE-FC44C6A9F534@gmail.com>

Bill,

Do you know what was fixed? Symptoms appear to be a bad device in PA.

Dave wo2x

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
> 
> I did and sent in to factory to fix.
> Bil
> K9YEQ
> 
> Bill
> 920-421-1172
> 
> ________________________________
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:36:40 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
> 
> Hi all.
> Early into CQWW this weekend I was getting reports of extremely distorted
> audio from my K3s. Being mostly a CW (and 6m FT8) operator I wasn't sure
> what was going on. I figured it was RF, but it was happening at all power
> levels, from QRP to 100W, and QRO with my KPA-1500. Same (bad) audio, just
> stronger/weaker signals. All bands were equally bad.
> 
> I ended up going from the radio directly to the tower, physically bypassing
> the amp and tuner, and only running low power, with the same result. It
> sounded more like distorted audio than RF ingress.
> 
> Some troubleshooting by Dave, WO2X, who is a Flex owner: He remoted in to
> his Flex a few miles away and noticed my garbled signal was absolutely dirty
> and wide, despite low mic gain and little or no compression. The audio
> sounded clean through the monitor, so it wasn't the audio chain. He's
> speculating I may have a blown FET in the PA stage.
> 
> We put in a Flex 6500 temporarily and it seems to be running fine. Wondering
> if anybody here has had experience with this, and if so, what are my next
> steps?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
> 
> K3s S/N 10023
> 
> 
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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Sun Oct 28 12:05:11 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:05:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
In-Reply-To: <C8F51333-F2D8-4F75-86BE-FC44C6A9F534@gmail.com>
References: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>
	<009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>
	<SN6PR05MB4288D0C4B87B61FD9C4D17979CF20@SN6PR05MB4288.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
	<C8F51333-F2D8-4F75-86BE-FC44C6A9F534@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9599381B-09AD-4244-9F52-A6DE04D0A510@widomaker.com>

Next step, Contact Elecraft Customer Service. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Dave <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Do you know what was fixed? Symptoms appear to be a bad device in PA.
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I did and sent in to factory to fix.
>> Bil
>> K9YEQ
>> 
>> Bill
>> 920-421-1172
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:36:40 PM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Early into CQWW this weekend I was getting reports of extremely distorted
>> audio from my K3s. Being mostly a CW (and 6m FT8) operator I wasn't sure
>> what was going on. I figured it was RF, but it was happening at all power
>> levels, from QRP to 100W, and QRO with my KPA-1500. Same (bad) audio, just
>> stronger/weaker signals. All bands were equally bad.
>> 
>> I ended up going from the radio directly to the tower, physically bypassing
>> the amp and tuner, and only running low power, with the same result. It
>> sounded more like distorted audio than RF ingress.
>> 
>> Some troubleshooting by Dave, WO2X, who is a Flex owner: He remoted in to
>> his Flex a few miles away and noticed my garbled signal was absolutely dirty
>> and wide, despite low mic gain and little or no compression. The audio
>> sounded clean through the monitor, so it wasn't the audio chain. He's
>> speculating I may have a blown FET in the PA stage.
>> 
>> We put in a Flex 6500 temporarily and it seems to be running fine. Wondering
>> if anybody here has had experience with this, and if so, what are my next
>> steps?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> 73 and Good DX
>> Peter, W2IRT
>> 
>> K3s S/N 10023
>> 
>> 
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From dm4im at t-online.de  Sun Oct 28 20:36:29 2018
From: dm4im at t-online.de (Martin)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 01:36:29 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] ..not just nice... Beautiful and Astounding!
Message-ID: <c85f20ae-19f7-593a-f859-56775d67e07d@t-online.de>

Elecrafters,
i asked the K3/CM500 users for their settings a few days ago.
I configured the TXEQ per the suggestions. In the contest, on 40m, DM4M 
got a '..nice signal.. ' from a W2 and a 'What a beautiful signal, 
astounding!' from a K5.

So i think your suggestions were on spot.
Thanks!

-- 

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM

From Gary at ka1j.com  Sun Oct 28 20:58:16 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:58:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Possible K3s TX failure - distorted audio
In-Reply-To: <009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>
References: <fb4bcd9d-840e-ca74-b928-460cecd3568e@coho.net>,
	<276D3D6C9D5C8C4484211E9839FDE1AB4A396914@CITESMBX5.ad.uillinois.edu>,
	<009301d46e77$d3558db0$7a00a910$@net>
Message-ID: <5BD65B28.27529.1755B39@Gary.ka1j.com>

Peter,

I had that issue with the K3s, same kind 
of issue. I'd sent it in maybe 3 months 
ago for some warranty work & work on the 
PA I believe it was, but hadn't used the 
SSB for the same reasons as you. I heard 
no issue in the headphones listening to 
Monitor but got many reports of a terrible 
signal. I bought a HM4 mic thinking that 
was the issue but the new mic did no 
better.

I ran the backup K3 and got excellent 
reports with the KM4 mic so knew the issue 
was in the K3s. It's in California, in 
Queue right now.

Your issue may be different.

73,

Gary
KA1J


> Hi all.
> Early into CQWW this weekend I was getting reports of extremely
> distorted audio from my K3s. Being mostly a CW (and 6m FT8) operator I
> wasn't sure what was going on. I figured it was RF, but it was
> happening at all power levels, from QRP to 100W, and QRO with my
> KPA-1500. Same (bad) audio, just stronger/weaker signals. All bands
> were equally bad.
> 
> I ended up going from the radio directly to the tower, physically
> bypassing the amp and tuner, and only running low power, with the same
> result. It sounded more like distorted audio than RF ingress.
> 
> Some troubleshooting by Dave, WO2X, who is a Flex owner: He remoted in
> to his Flex a few miles away and noticed my garbled signal was
> absolutely dirty and wide, despite low mic gain and little or no
> compression. The audio sounded clean through the monitor, so it wasn't
> the audio chain. He's speculating I may have a blown FET in the PA
> stage. 
> 
> We put in a Flex 6500 temporarily and it seems to be running fine.
> Wondering if anybody here has had experience with this, and if so,
> what are my next steps?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
> 
> K3s S/N 10023
> 
> 
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From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Oct 28 22:10:45 2018
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:10:45 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Message-ID: <d21d0aed-0617-cb5a-f968-c73c65bb2582@coho.net>

Good Evening,

 ?? The rain has slowed from the roaring noise I was hearing during the 
second net to a mild patter on the roof.? It got so loud I could barely 
hear my own sending.? I wear headphones.? It was loud.? But copy was 
good on many of you.? K4TO was about 50% copy on 20 meters but came 
through on 40 meters quite well.? QSB of 2 to 4 S units was consistent 
on all of you.? A few of you had wider ranging reports.

 ?? K0DTJ is picking up spares on the Ducie Island folks.? W6JHB has a 
new amp but lacks a cable (for want of a nail).? W0CZ keeps raking his 
leaves before the next snow freezes them to the ground.? K6PJV laments 
the NFL's parity :)? while W8OV calls 85 degrees warm.? What a group.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K4TO - Dave - KY

K6XK - Roy - IA

K4JPN - Steve - GA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA


 ? On 7046.5 kHz at 0000z:

K4TO - Dave - KY

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K6XK - Roy - IA

W6JHB - Jim - CA

KG7V - Marv - WA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

W8OV - Dave - TX

W0CZ - Ken - ND

 ?? Until next week stay well,

 ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS

-


From lists at w2irt.net  Mon Oct 29 01:25:32 2018
From: lists at w2irt.net (Peter Dougherty (W2IRT))
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 01:25:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
Message-ID: <002d01d46f47$d0cc7b50$726571f0$@net>

Hi all,
Now that I have my K3s out of the desk for repairs, one of the things I'd
planned to do is to retire my MicroHam Microkeyer-II. 

Since the K3s has its own built-in sound card it connects via USB I don't
see the need for the MK-II any longer, and frankly I'd like to reduce the
complexity and clutter behind the radio in a very tight space. I am using
both the K3s and a P3 (with TX monitor), so I'm unsure of the needed
cabling. I also have a Y-box installed at the moment, for my band decoder to
the antenna switch and to my KPA-1500.

I set this all up in July, 2015 and quite honestly, I've forgotten all the
steps I needed to get the rig working with the MK-II, so  I'd appreciate any
details of how to get everything working without it. 

I know I'm going to lose two things: The Winkeyer, and true FSK RTTY. I've
operated away from home just using the K3s's internal keyer and never had a
problem (I'm still a relative slowpoke, rarely over 32WPM in contests and
lower other times). RTTY will be a challenge for me, though. I haven't used
AFSK for 17 years so would greatly appreciate help in making that work,
especially with dual VFOs.

Thanks in advance!

 


----------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Peter Dougherty, W2IRT

DXCC Card Checker/CQ-WAZ Checkpoint

www.facebook.com/W2IRT

 

K3s S/N 10023
KPA-1500 S/N 0398


From n6tv at arrl.net  Mon Oct 29 02:07:03 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:07:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
In-Reply-To: <002d01d46f47$d0cc7b50$726571f0$@net>
References: <002d01d46f47$d0cc7b50$726571f0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAOmNKGK0bVz6ANwrTVK2jkLSGT7PngnJu9+rHfiV-s_jp95e9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:26 PM Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
wrote:

> Since the K3s has its own built-in sound card it connects via USB I don't
> see the need for the MK-II any longer, and frankly I'd like to reduce the
> complexity and clutter behind the radio in a very tight space. I am using
> both the K3s and a P3 (with TX monitor), so I'm unsure of the needed
> cabling. I also have a Y-box installed at the moment, for my band decoder
> to
> the antenna switch and to my KPA-1500.
>
> I set this all up in July, 2015 and quite honestly, I've forgotten all the
> steps I needed to get the rig working with the MK-II, so  I'd appreciate
> any
> details of how to get everything working without it.
>

Tell MMTTY to use the USB Audio CODEC for reception (and perhaps
transmission).  Set MENU:MIC SEL to LINE IN.

The tricky part will be getting PTT to work, since MMTTY can't open the
same serial port if it is also being used for rig control by your logging
program.

I know I'm going to lose two things: The Winkeyer, and true FSK RTTY.


Most logging programs can send decent CW over the K3S USB cable (more
below).  This is via "on/off" keying, not KY commands.

FSK RTTY can still be supported by connecting a Serial Box (
https://bit.ly/S-BOX) to your Y-BOX.  This provides a separate serial port
exclusively for MMTTY.  If all of the 15-pin connectors of your Y-BOX are
already in use, you can use the RCA connectors to connect the two
together.  Otherwise, a short 15-pin M/M cable is all you need to connect
them together.  Remote K3 power on can also be supported by the S-BOX, if
needed.

I've operated away from home just using the K3s's internal keyer and never
> had a
> problem (I'm still a relative slowpoke, rarely over 32WPM in contests and
> lower other times).


For contests or computer keying, you can set CONFIG:PTT-KEY to RTS-DTR and
tell your logging program to send CW on the DTR pin of the K3S virtual
serial port, and PTT on the RTS pin.  Hand sending via the internal keyer
works great too.  I've written Win-Test scripts to keep the K3 paddle speed
in sync with the logging program sending speed (or you can set it a few WPM
slower if you prefer).  See https://bit.ly/wtscripts (not required).

RTTY will be a challenge for me, though. I haven't used AFSK for 17 years
> so would greatly appreciate help in making that work,
>

No need to use AFSK if you can get FSK to work over a separate serial port
(or virtual serial port).  Reception of one or both VFOs would be via the
LINE OUT jack to your PC stereo LINE IN (if it has one).  But all MIC
connectors I've seen on PCs are MONO despite using a stereo (TRS)
connector, so you won't be able to use dual VFOs for reception unless you
use an external sound card with a stereo LINE IN jack (external USB sound
cards with a stereo LINE IN jack are very inexpensive at present).

73,
Bob, N6TV
https://bit.ly/Y-BOX
https://bit.ly/S-BOX

From rocketnj at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 05:55:48 2018
From: rocketnj at gmail.com (David Decoons)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 05:55:48 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
In-Reply-To: <CAOmNKGK0bVz6ANwrTVK2jkLSGT7PngnJu9+rHfiV-s_jp95e9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002d01d46f47$d0cc7b50$726571f0$@net>
	<CAOmNKGK0bVz6ANwrTVK2jkLSGT7PngnJu9+rHfiV-s_jp95e9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5bd6d924.1c69fb81.27773.3c3f@mx.google.com>

Hi Bob,

I will be helping Peter with this project.

Couldn?t we use the USB in from the radio to PC, then use a program such as CSPE to split the CAT port (created by radio USB) to share between programs and the amp?

Many modern PCs and motherboards have a blue line in connector that accepts stereo input.

73
Dave wo2x


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bob Wilson, N6TV
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:09 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector; Peter W2IRT
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:26 PM Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
wrote:

> Since the K3s has its own built-in sound card it connects via USB I don't
> see the need for the MK-II any longer, and frankly I'd like to reduce the
> complexity and clutter behind the radio in a very tight space. I am using
> both the K3s and a P3 (with TX monitor), so I'm unsure of the needed
> cabling. I also have a Y-box installed at the moment, for my band decoder
> to
> the antenna switch and to my KPA-1500.
>
> I set this all up in July, 2015 and quite honestly, I've forgotten all the
> steps I needed to get the rig working with the MK-II, so  I'd appreciate
> any
> details of how to get everything working without it.
>

Tell MMTTY to use the USB Audio CODEC for reception (and perhaps
transmission).  Set MENU:MIC SEL to LINE IN.

The tricky part will be getting PTT to work, since MMTTY can't open the
same serial port if it is also being used for rig control by your logging
program.

I know I'm going to lose two things: The Winkeyer, and true FSK RTTY.


Most logging programs can send decent CW over the K3S USB cable (more
below).  This is via "on/off" keying, not KY commands.

FSK RTTY can still be supported by connecting a Serial Box (
https://bit.ly/S-BOX) to your Y-BOX.  This provides a separate serial port
exclusively for MMTTY.  If all of the 15-pin connectors of your Y-BOX are
already in use, you can use the RCA connectors to connect the two
together.  Otherwise, a short 15-pin M/M cable is all you need to connect
them together.  Remote K3 power on can also be supported by the S-BOX, if
needed.

I've operated away from home just using the K3s's internal keyer and never
> had a
> problem (I'm still a relative slowpoke, rarely over 32WPM in contests and
> lower other times).


For contests or computer keying, you can set CONFIG:PTT-KEY to RTS-DTR and
tell your logging program to send CW on the DTR pin of the K3S virtual
serial port, and PTT on the RTS pin.  Hand sending via the internal keyer
works great too.  I've written Win-Test scripts to keep the K3 paddle speed
in sync with the logging program sending speed (or you can set it a few WPM
slower if you prefer).  See https://bit.ly/wtscripts (not required).

RTTY will be a challenge for me, though. I haven't used AFSK for 17 years
> so would greatly appreciate help in making that work,
>

No need to use AFSK if you can get FSK to work over a separate serial port
(or virtual serial port).  Reception of one or both VFOs would be via the
LINE OUT jack to your PC stereo LINE IN (if it has one).  But all MIC
connectors I've seen on PCs are MONO despite using a stereo (TRS)
connector, so you won't be able to use dual VFOs for reception unless you
use an external sound card with a stereo LINE IN jack (external USB sound
cards with a stereo LINE IN jack are very inexpensive at present).

73,
Bob, N6TV
https://bit.ly/Y-BOX
https://bit.ly/S-BOX
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From lists at subich.com  Mon Oct 29 08:53:51 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 08:53:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
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> Couldn?t we use the USB in from the radio to PC, then use a program 
> such as CSPE to split the CAT port (created by radio USB) to share 
 > between programs and the amp?

Yes, if the logging program can handle any "unexpected" responses from
the amplifier.  VSPE is an "unmanaged" splitter - data from any port is
echoed to all ports.  Some of the better logging software offers the
ability to separately control an amplifier (or external receiver,
slave transceiver etc.).

> Many modern PCs and motherboards have a blue line in connector that 
 > accepts stereo input.

You should not need that.  The K3S (or K3 with KIO3B) USB audio is
stereo with Main RX on Left and Sub RX on Right.

Other than switching between sound card and mic for DVK purposes, the
K3S should be able to handle everything with no external hardware.  If
true FSK is important (rather than AFSK), consider MORTTY.  MORTTY will
provide a true FSK output from a USB port and is now supported by MMTTY.
Two MORTTY units can provide FSK and a Winkey emulator if you want to
offload CW timing from the PC as well.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-29 5:55 AM, David Decoons wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I will be helping Peter with this project.
> 
> Couldn?t we use the USB in from the radio to PC, then use a program such as CSPE to split the CAT port (created by radio USB) to share between programs and the amp?
> 
> Many modern PCs and motherboards have a blue line in connector that accepts stereo input.
> 
> 73
> Dave wo2x
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Bob Wilson, N6TV
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:09 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector; Peter W2IRT
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
> 
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:26 PM Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Since the K3s has its own built-in sound card it connects via USB I don't
>> see the need for the MK-II any longer, and frankly I'd like to reduce the
>> complexity and clutter behind the radio in a very tight space. I am using
>> both the K3s and a P3 (with TX monitor), so I'm unsure of the needed
>> cabling. I also have a Y-box installed at the moment, for my band decoder
>> to
>> the antenna switch and to my KPA-1500.
>>
>> I set this all up in July, 2015 and quite honestly, I've forgotten all the
>> steps I needed to get the rig working with the MK-II, so  I'd appreciate
>> any
>> details of how to get everything working without it.
>>
> 
> Tell MMTTY to use the USB Audio CODEC for reception (and perhaps
> transmission).  Set MENU:MIC SEL to LINE IN.
> 
> The tricky part will be getting PTT to work, since MMTTY can't open the
> same serial port if it is also being used for rig control by your logging
> program.
> 
> I know I'm going to lose two things: The Winkeyer, and true FSK RTTY.
> 
> 
> Most logging programs can send decent CW over the K3S USB cable (more
> below).  This is via "on/off" keying, not KY commands.
> 
> FSK RTTY can still be supported by connecting a Serial Box (
> https://bit.ly/S-BOX) to your Y-BOX.  This provides a separate serial port
> exclusively for MMTTY.  If all of the 15-pin connectors of your Y-BOX are
> already in use, you can use the RCA connectors to connect the two
> together.  Otherwise, a short 15-pin M/M cable is all you need to connect
> them together.  Remote K3 power on can also be supported by the S-BOX, if
> needed.
> 
> I've operated away from home just using the K3s's internal keyer and never
>> had a
>> problem (I'm still a relative slowpoke, rarely over 32WPM in contests and
>> lower other times).
> 
> 
> For contests or computer keying, you can set CONFIG:PTT-KEY to RTS-DTR and
> tell your logging program to send CW on the DTR pin of the K3S virtual
> serial port, and PTT on the RTS pin.  Hand sending via the internal keyer
> works great too.  I've written Win-Test scripts to keep the K3 paddle speed
> in sync with the logging program sending speed (or you can set it a few WPM
> slower if you prefer).  See https://bit.ly/wtscripts (not required).
> 
> RTTY will be a challenge for me, though. I haven't used AFSK for 17 years
>> so would greatly appreciate help in making that work,
>>
> 
> No need to use AFSK if you can get FSK to work over a separate serial port
> (or virtual serial port).  Reception of one or both VFOs would be via the
> LINE OUT jack to your PC stereo LINE IN (if it has one).  But all MIC
> connectors I've seen on PCs are MONO despite using a stereo (TRS)
> connector, so you won't be able to use dual VFOs for reception unless you
> use an external sound card with a stereo LINE IN jack (external USB sound
> cards with a stereo LINE IN jack are very inexpensive at present).
> 
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
> https://bit.ly/Y-BOX
> https://bit.ly/S-BOX
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From w9lsl at arrl.net  Mon Oct 29 08:58:31 2018
From: w9lsl at arrl.net (Ken Ford - W9LSL)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 05:58:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
In-Reply-To: <B9736C72-A1EE-4A2B-96C1-30D0783A4307@law.du.edu>
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The double binding post adapter isn?t what I have in mind - I?m thinking
specifically about use with the AX1 which needs a counterpoise.

Rich Hurd WC3T, where are you attaching your pigtail?



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From john at kn5l.net  Mon Oct 29 09:38:54 2018
From: john at kn5l.net (John Oppenheimer)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 08:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Narrow Spaced DR Measurement
Message-ID: <0f50232c-fb0d-5855-9f9a-c668d34d3299@kn5l.net>

While evaluating a receiver design, a K2 Narrow Spaced Dynamic Range
measurement was performed to validate the test bench. The K2 plot is on
the page: https://www.kn5l.net/newReceiverProject/plot-IMD/

If the two line equations are used, the Noise floor is -138 dBm and 2kHz
dynamic range is 87 dB. These are close to the Sherwood values of -136
and 80. The K2 settings are my normal operation IF/AF BW settings, which
is a little narrower than the Sherwood measurement parameters.

The question is the low level IMD measurement points do not follow the
line equation. Is this expected?

Guess I need to order a $60 Mini-Circuits ZFSC-2-6+

John KN5L

From alan at wilcoxengineering.com  Mon Oct 29 10:24:01 2018
From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Tuneup, Rescue, Build your K2 and others
Message-ID: <74143E0D-E9C1-44CE-9FF0-4AB78D18350C@wilcoxengineering.com>

Hello,

Does your K2 need repair? Tuneup?
Want to sell it, but it needs some attention before offering it for sale? 

In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago.

See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at 
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 

Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure --  are at
https://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ 

Cheers,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-478-0736 (cell, text)
http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox
Williamsport, PA 17701


From rich at wc3t.us  Mon Oct 29 10:25:27 2018
From: rich at wc3t.us (rich hurd WC3T)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:25:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Adding mini-banana jack counterpoise point to a KX3?
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Currently to one of the case screws with a ring terminal.  When the AXT1
shows up, I'm going to create a pigtail from that antenna mount
specifically using a .183 quick connect and a PowerPole (or maybe just a
quick connect to the counterpoise wire like the Superantenna does.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 8:58 AM Ken Ford - W9LSL <w9lsl at arrl.net> wrote:

> The double binding post adapter isn?t what I have in mind - I?m thinking
> specifically about use with the AX1 which needs a counterpoise.
>
> Rich Hurd WC3T, where are you attaching your pigtail?
>
>
>
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From graziano at roccon.com  Mon Oct 29 12:20:19 2018
From: graziano at roccon.com (Graziano Roccon (IW2NOY))
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:20:19 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Tuneup, Rescue, Build your K2 and others
In-Reply-To: <74143E0D-E9C1-44CE-9FF0-4AB78D18350C@wilcoxengineering.com>
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Hello Alan,

thanks for your page on the K2-Twins.
I saw them a long time ago and i was impressed with the solution.
After a short time i begun to search for a KAT100 in EC2 and i bought 
it.
Just the last weekend i decided to do the transformation and my K2-100 
has become a K2qrp + KAT100-KPA100 in EC2, the "Twins".
Your instruction and the detailed pictures were a great inspiration and 
a really precious guide to let me duplicate the solution.

Thanks a lot Alan.

Best 73's de IW2NOY Graziano Roccon

Il 2018-10-29 15:24 Alan D. Wilcox ha scritto:
> Hello,
> 
> Does your K2 need repair? Tuneup?
> Want to sell it, but it needs some attention before offering it for 
> sale?
> 
> In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project
> you might have started some time ago.
> 
> See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768
> 
> Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2
> enclosure --  are at
> https://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
> 570-478-0736 (cell, text)
> http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox
> Williamsport, PA 17701
> 
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From Gary at ka1j.com  Mon Oct 29 13:10:47 2018
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 13:10:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
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> I know I'm going to lose two things: The Winkeyer, and true FSK RTTY.

# Perhaps not, I use the marvelous 
Win4K3Suite which with com0com gives me 
com ports aplenty to use MMTTY, N1MM, 
WSJT-X and Logic 9 all running at the same 
time. I do need to use winkey with N1MM in 
CW if I want to use the keyboard to send. 

I check off the Winkey box in the N1MM 
setup and use the USB winkey. There are 
two connections to the WinkeyUSB box; one 
goes to the key and the other USB to the 
computer, that's it and the CW transmit 
functions work perfectly.

I'm assuming you don't have the USB 
version. maybe there's a mod to add USB to 
your unit?

With RTTY, I use N1MM and run the MMTTY 
digital window with the K3 set to AFSK A 
and it works beautifully. When not using 
RTTY I set the radio to DATA A for WSJT-X

Flawless.

73,

Gary
KA1J

From lists at w2irt.net  Mon Oct 29 13:57:02 2018
From: lists at w2irt.net (Peter Dougherty (W2IRT))
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 13:57:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:11 PM
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II

> I know I'm going to lose two things: The Winkeyer, and true FSK RTTY.

# Perhaps not, I use the marvelous 
Win4K3Suite which with com0com gives me 
com ports aplenty to use MMTTY, N1MM, 
WSJT-X and Logic 9 all running at the same 
time.

[pjd] I do plan to purchase Win4K3 eventually.


# I check off the Winkey box in the N1MM 
setup and use the USB winkey. I'm assuming you don't have the USB 
version. maybe there's a mod to add USB to 
your unit?

[pjd] I don't own a stand-alone Winkeyer. I own the MicroHam Microkeyer-II,
has a Winkeyer built-in, and it's that device that I want to retire. 

# With RTTY, I use N1MM and run the MMTTY 
digital window with the K3 set to AFSK A 
and it works beautifully. When not using 
RTTY I set the radio to DATA A for WSJT-X

Flawless.

[pjd] That's good to know. I will be using both RTTY and FT-8. For RTTY, the
need is to have left audio/control for VFO-A and right for VFO-B, which is
how I have it set now. Receive shouldn't change, I don't imagine, but I'm
not sure how to transmit RTTY on the K3s without the Microkeyer-II. And as
another posted mentioned, sequencing .WAV files in N1MM and WinWarbler is an
extremely high priority. 

There are two issues at play for me. One is a complex hardware setup that
can easily allow the ingress of RFI into the audio chain, and that makes
physical reconnection of the radio a real chore after I have to take it out
for whatever reason. Connections that are fragile, wires that can't be
dressed correctly because of length due to the arrangement of my radio desk
and so on. The other side of the equation, and I think I may be fearing this
even more, is the need to replace all sorts of hardware and cables with a
maze of even more impenetrable software. As anybody who knows me knows, I
*detest* software solutions since it's so easy for any one app to break when
Windows 10 veers off in another direction.

So basically, what it boils down to is this: Can I transmit and receive CW,
SSB, two-VFO RTTY, FT-8 and other digimodes, .WAV file sequencing, firmware
uploads, and CAT control to/from the K3s using mostly just the single USB
cable and the physical connection to my paddles? I want to implement a KISS
solution **IF** it can be done. Otherwise I'll just keep the MK-II in line
since it's a known-valid configuration, albeit one I don't particularly like
(no offense, Joe).

73,

Gary
KA1J
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From lists at subich.com  Mon Oct 29 14:37:08 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:37:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
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On 2018-10-29 1:57 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) wrote:

> Can I transmit and receive CW, SSB, two-VFO RTTY, FT-8 and other 
> digimodes, .WAV file sequencing, firmware uploads, and CAT control 
> to/from the K3s using mostly just the single USB cable and the 
> physical connection to my paddles? I want to implement a KISS 
> solution **IF** it can be done. 

The answer to the question in the first line in yes.  However, when
you add the additional qualifier that it must be a KISS solution
the answer becomes no.

Simply put, in order to meet your specifications with *multiple*
applications (I know you use N1MM+, DXLab Suite, WSJT-X and MMTTY at
least), you *must* study the various manuals/help files and spend
a significant amount of time configuring each piece of software
to properly relate to the transceiver *and* study the transceiver
Owner's Manual to in order to figure out how to configure the
transceiver for the specific requirements of each application
(as well as vice versa).

For example, with DXLab Suite (WinWarbler) you need to understand
how to integrate transceiver commands with your wave files to switch
the audio input from mic to sound card and back with each wave file
*or* configure the transceiver to enable *both* mic and Line inputs
(and accept issues of noise from the "inactive" input).

> Otherwise I'll just keep the MK-II in line since it's a known-valid
> configuration, albeit one I don't particularly like (no offense,
> Joe).

You now know one of the guiding principles of microHAM's design for
the last 20 years.  The microHAM hardware/software is designed to
handle all the configuration issues ... it is intended to utilize
each supported transceiver in the manufacturer's stock/recommended
configuration and handle changes in input/output, etc. based on the
mode reported by the CAT interface, TX/RX status and source of PTT.


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV



From ko5v at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 29 14:53:32 2018
From: ko5v at earthlink.net (Jim KO5V)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:53:32 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 frequency counter question
Message-ID: <243569721.8011.1540839212854@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have what may be a stupid or naive question: has anyone used the built-in frequency counter in a K2 to measure the frequency of a circuit external to the radio? 

I found what may be a reference to this, done by a French ham, but his link no longer works. If this is possible, any info (especially potential gotchas) would be greatly appreciated. I have built a couple of nixie-tube clocks as Christmas gifts, and I need to adjust their internal frequency references. The output is a 400khz, TTL level square wave. I know I probably need more precision that the K2's counter may have, but right now, I just want to get as close as possible.

I hope I'm not completely crazy here...

Thanks. 73,

Jim KO5V

From n6tv at arrl.net  Mon Oct 29 14:55:23 2018
From: n6tv at arrl.net (Bob Wilson, N6TV)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:55:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Retiring my MK-II
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:55 AM David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be helping Peter with this project.
>

Thanks.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:57 AM Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net>
wrote:

> Can I transmit and receive CW, SSB, two-VFO RTTY, FT-8 and other
> digimodes, .WAV file sequencing, firmware
> uploads, and CAT control to/from the K3s using mostly just the single
> USB cable and the physical connection to my paddles?


Yes.

Can you do it without "a maze of impenetrable software solutions"?

No, but once you get it set up, it won't be too bad.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:55 AM David Decoons <rocketnj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Couldn?t we use the USB in from the radio to PC, then use a program such
> as CSPE to split the CAT port (created by radio USB) to share between
> programs and the amp?
>

The amp?  Since W2IRT has a K3S and KPA1500, no serial connection is needed
between the K3S and the amp.  The 15-pin ACC cable between the K3S, KPA1500
and Y-BOX handles all required communication.

Did mean VSPE <http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html>?  Here are the
steps to share the K3S virtual serial port between N1MM and MMTTY and use
AFSK RTTY.  This method uses the K3S virtual serial port RTS line for
"Hardware PTT" from MMTTY to avoid potential command conflicts that are
possible if you try to use "Radio Command PTT" from MMTTY.

*K3 Setup:*

CONFIG:RS232  USB  (In the VSPE setup below, I assume *COM5:* is the FTDI
serial port created by the K3S)
CONFIG:RTS-DTR PTT-OFF (for computer-generated CW, you will have to change
this to CONFIG:RTS-DTR PTT-KEY)
MAIN:MIC SEL  LINE IN (make sure *nothing* is plugged into LINE IN or LINE
OUT on the rear panel of the K3, otherwise you get zero audio on the K3 USB
sound card)
MAIN:MIC+LIN  OFF  (for SSB, you may have to set MAIN:MIC+LIN ON)

*Windows Setup to make the K3 USB Sound Card work in Stereo Mode so you
MMTTY can decode both Main and SubRx:*

   1. Windows Key + R (run):  mmsys.cpl (shortcut to open Windows sound
   control panel)
   2. On the *Recording* tab, select the K3's *USB Audio CODEC* and click
   *Properties*
   3. On the *Advanced* tab, select *2 channel, 16 bit, 48000 Hz (DVD
   Quality)* and click *OK*
   4. Click *OK* again

*VSPE Setup:*

   1. Device | Create | Splitter
   2. Virtual Serial Port:  COM6, Data Source Serial Port:  COM5 (or
   whatever the K3 USB cable created, check Device Manager)
   3. Check *Redirect Modem Registers*
   4. Under Initial modem registers state, *uncheck* both RTS and DTR
   5. Click OK
   6. Click Start emulation

*N1MM Setup:*

As you were doing before, but use COM6 for rig control instead of COM5

(For CW, specify CW keying on the DTR pin of COM6, PTT on the RTS pin)


*MMTTY Setup:*

   1. From the menu, *Option | Setup MMTTY*
   2. On the *TX* tab, under PTT & FSK, set Port to *NONE*
   3. Click the *Radio Command* button
   4. Set Port to *COM6* using the same settings as N1MM, (e.g. Baud:
   38400, Data Length: 8bits, Stop: 1bit, Parity: None, Flow control: none)
   5. Very important:  under *DTR/RTS*, check the box labeled *PTT*
   6. Very important:  at the bottom, set *Group* to *Clear* so no radio
   commands will be sent  by MMTTY and only hardware PTT will be used
   7. Click *OK*
   8. On the *SoundCard* tab, set Reception and Transmission to *USB Audio
   Codec*
   9. On the *Misc* tab, select Source:  *Left* for  Main Rx (VFO A) and
   click *OK*
   10. If you also want to decode Sub Rx (VFO B), you must configure a
   second independent instance of MMTTY (launched from a separate directory)
   but select Source: *Right*.  Perhaps you already had that working.

Of course you'll have to do further fine tuning to adjust audio levels as
required.

GL.

73,
Bob, N6TV

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct 29 16:53:06 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:53:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 frequency counter question
In-Reply-To: <243569721.8011.1540839212854@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <243569721.8011.1540839212854@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5f89937e-eaea-bb31-43cf-85bee7416bbf@embarqmail.com>

Jim,

Of course that can be done.  You would need to construct a coaxial 
counter probe similar to the internal probe (with a 10pF capacitor in 
series with the tip), but unlike the internal probe, you would have to 
provide a ground lead to the shield near the tip end. (the internal 
probe depends on the K2 PC board ground for the return path - that does 
not exist with an external device).

The length of your "probe" coax may reduce the maximum frequency that 
can be used.  With a short probe, the counter is good to 40 MHz.

The K2 display is limited to 10 Hz resolution, and its accuracy is 
dependent on properly setting the 4 MHz reference oscillator.  You can 
check that by tuning to WWV in SSB mode and using the N6KR method to 
determine the correct setting.
The details of how to do that are on my website www.w3fpr.com K2 Dial 
Calibration article.  The use of Spectrogram to determine that the 
transmitted audio tones are received at the correct frequency.  If you 
need Spectrogram, you can download it from my website opening page - 
look near the bottom for the links.  I have versions 5.17 and version 16 
there.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2018 2:53 PM, Jim KO5V wrote:
> I have what may be a stupid or naive question: has anyone used the built-in frequency counter in a K2 to measure the frequency of a circuit external to the radio?
> 
> I found what may be a reference to this, done by a French ham, but his link no longer works. If this is possible, any info (especially potential gotchas) would be greatly appreciated. I have built a couple of nixie-tube clocks as Christmas gifts, and I need to adjust their internal frequency references. The output is a 400khz, TTL level square wave. I know I probably need more precision that the K2's counter may have, but right now, I just want to get as close as possible.
> 

From w2kj at bellsouth.net  Mon Oct 29 17:06:09 2018
From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:06:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] F.S. Timewave Navigator
Message-ID: <B0ACAB26-B598-4A41-B742-071E6330A27C@bellsouth.net>

Howdy Gang.

Tried the digital modes and just don?t enjoy them much?.dedicated CW OP here (grin) so I?m offering for sale a like new, Timewave Navigator all set for the KX3/KX2.

This unit costs $375 from HRO plus another $55 for the cable for the KX3/KX2?a total of $430.

Will ship the unit with manual and all cables for $325.

			73, Joe W2KJ
			I QRP, therefore I am



From tonybarclay1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 18:09:27 2018
From: tonybarclay1 at gmail.com (tonybarclay1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:09:27 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Kx3 line
Message-ID: <BFE16197-1D4A-4990-9E3F-CA3EE7C8E50B@gmail.com>

I have just got my kxpa home and built. No atu

It work with the kx3 and px3 well.

I cam get the kx3 and kpxa working with mac logger.

But when I try with all three and the computer get a port busy message. Am using the cabeling set and the adapter. 

Am fillowing the cabeling diagram 

any thoughts please

Sent from my iPhone

From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Mon Oct 29 18:22:08 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:22:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Kx3 line
In-Reply-To: <BFE16197-1D4A-4990-9E3F-CA3EE7C8E50B@gmail.com>
References: <BFE16197-1D4A-4990-9E3F-CA3EE7C8E50B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db1d45e5-76b7-baf1-2274-1a58f163101a@embarqmail.com>

Tony,

Only one COM port is used for the KXPA100, PX3, and KX3 - and only one 
application can use a COM port at a time.

Yes, it is a USB port on the computer, but the computer assigns a COM 
port to the USB to serial adapter.

You will have to close one application to use another one.  The port is 
made BUSY by the 1st application, and cannot be used by any other until 
that application releases the port.

In other words, it is a problem with the computer enforcing the one 
application at a time using the COM port.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2018 6:09 PM, tonybarclay1 at gmail.com wrote:
> I have just got my kxpa home and built. No atu
> 
> It work with the kx3 and px3 well.
> 
> I cam get the kx3 and kpxa working with mac logger.
> 
> But when I try with all three and the computer get a port busy message. Am using the cabeling set and the adapter.
> 
> Am fillowing the cabeling diagram
> 

From ko5v at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 29 19:17:31 2018
From: ko5v at earthlink.net (Jim KO5V)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:17:31 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 frequency counter question
Message-ID: <1290903949.15318.1540855051943@wamui-duchess.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thanks Don, that's good news. I'm not expecting perfection - just getting close will do for now. 

73, Jim  KO5V


-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Oct 29, 2018 2:53 PM
>To: Jim KO5V <ko5v at earthlink.net>, Elecraft List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 frequency counter question
>
>Jim,
>
>Of course that can be done.  You would need to construct a coaxial 
>counter probe similar to the internal probe (with a 10pF capacitor in 
>series with the tip), but unlike the internal probe, you would have to 
>provide a ground lead to the shield near the tip end. (the internal 
>probe depends on the K2 PC board ground for the return path - that does 
>not exist with an external device).
>
>The length of your "probe" coax may reduce the maximum frequency that 
>can be used.  With a short probe, the counter is good to 40 MHz.
>
>The K2 display is limited to 10 Hz resolution, and its accuracy is 
>dependent on properly setting the 4 MHz reference oscillator.  You can 
>check that by tuning to WWV in SSB mode and using the N6KR method to 
>determine the correct setting.
>The details of how to do that are on my website www.w3fpr.com K2 Dial 
>Calibration article.  The use of Spectrogram to determine that the 
>transmitted audio tones are received at the correct frequency.  If you 
>need Spectrogram, you can download it from my website opening page - 
>look near the bottom for the links.  I have versions 5.17 and version 16 
>there.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 10/29/2018 2:53 PM, Jim KO5V wrote:
>> I have what may be a stupid or naive question: has anyone used the built-in frequency counter in a K2 to measure the frequency of a circuit external to the radio?
>> 
>> I found what may be a reference to this, done by a French ham, but his link no longer works. If this is possible, any info (especially potential gotchas) would be greatly appreciated. I have built a couple of nixie-tube clocks as Christmas gifts, and I need to adjust their internal frequency references. The output is a 400khz, TTL level square wave. I know I probably need more precision that the K2's counter may have, but right now, I just want to get as close as possible.
>> 

From john at kn5l.net  Mon Oct 29 20:07:30 2018
From: john at kn5l.net (John Oppenheimer)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:07:30 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Narrow Spaced DR Measurement
In-Reply-To: <0f50232c-fb0d-5855-9f9a-c668d34d3299@kn5l.net>
References: <0f50232c-fb0d-5855-9f9a-c668d34d3299@kn5l.net>
Message-ID: <ae41f1d0-48b4-8ed4-d9fd-779078c20c49@kn5l.net>

I believe I understand the low level IMD values not matching the line.
Looking at the Sherwood table, the K2 2kHz DR is "Phase Noise" limited.
Makes sense that phase noise would muck with the low values. Within
Ron's presentations it is mentioned that ARRL tried to solve the problem
with very narrow filters to remove the phase noise.

The 3rd order line slope is defined as two! Seams to me, the simple
approach is to find the line, as was done in the plot (notice the line
equation has "2*x"), and simply extend the line to the noise floor.

If the page is reloaded, there is a new "S3" line in the K2 plot to
demonstrate where the phase noise is an issue, about 12 dB below S3, or
S1 signals. Don't know about others, but the noise floor of my antennas
is well above S1, closer to S3 on a good day.

John KN5L


On 10/29/2018 08:38 AM, John Oppenheimer wrote:
> While evaluating a receiver design, a K2 Narrow Spaced Dynamic Range
> measurement was performed to validate the test bench. The K2 plot is on
> the page: https://www.kn5l.net/newReceiverProject/plot-IMD/
> 
> If the two line equations are used, the Noise floor is -138 dBm and 2kHz
> dynamic range is 87 dB. These are close to the Sherwood values of -136
> and 80. The K2 settings are my normal operation IF/AF BW settings, which
> is a little narrower than the Sherwood measurement parameters.
> 
> The question is the low level IMD measurement points do not follow the
> line equation. Is this expected?
> 
> Guess I need to order a $60 Mini-Circuits ZFSC-2-6+

From ve7xf at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 29 20:32:34 2018
From: ve7xf at shaw.ca (Ralph Parker)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:32:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] New website problem - no manuals
Message-ID: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>

I need a new version of the K3 manual. I went to the new website, 
selected 'support' from the menu, then 'manuals', which took me to the 
'document and manuals download' page. I am unable to go farther. 
Clicking on any of the six choices available gets me nowhere.

VE7XF


From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Oct 29 20:51:43 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:51:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New website problem - no manuals
In-Reply-To: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
References: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <F2545EBF-F082-4737-93F2-E191077E6112@widomaker.com>

Well I just downloaded the K3S Mamual on my iPhone. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Ralph Parker <ve7xf at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> I need a new version of the K3 manual. I went to the new website, selected 'support' from the menu, then 'manuals', which took me to the 'document and manuals download' page. I am unable to go farther. Clicking on any of the six choices available gets me nowhere.
> 
> VE7XF
> 
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From davidjw1 at cinci.rr.com  Mon Oct 29 20:52:14 2018
From: davidjw1 at cinci.rr.com (David Windisch)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:52:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] New website problem - no manuals
In-Reply-To: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
References: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1540860734904-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hmmmm.

Clicking on Title column entries worked fine just now.
Do you have Adobe Acrobat reader installed?

Brgds,
Dave, N3HE



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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Mon Oct 29 20:57:45 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:57:45 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Kx3 line
In-Reply-To: <BFE16197-1D4A-4990-9E3F-CA3EE7C8E50B@gmail.com>
References: <BFE16197-1D4A-4990-9E3F-CA3EE7C8E50B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06ACD762-20EE-4ABA-8446-8AE5162EAB84@widomaker.com>

Carefully re-check your cable connections. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 29, 2018, at 6:09 PM, tonybarclay1 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have just got my kxpa home and built. No atu
> 
> It work with the kx3 and px3 well.
> 
> I cam get the kx3 and kpxa working with mac logger.
> 
> But when I try with all three and the computer get a port busy message. Am using the cabeling set and the adapter. 
> 
> Am fillowing the cabeling diagram 
> 
> any thoughts please
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ______________________________________________________________
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 21:07:30 2018
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 21:07:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New website problem - no manuals
In-Reply-To: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
References: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <CAFHjwP72KWKGZE6nSmzk8-iE2WsKk6vHB+eHZ1MFY8tsgV2DDg@mail.gmail.com>

Ralph,

Have you cleared your browser cache since the new website went live? It is
possible your browser is holding references to the old location for the
doc, which may have changed with the site redesign.

73 de,

Ian, KM4IK

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 8:34 PM Ralph Parker <ve7xf at shaw.ca> wrote:

> I need a new version of the K3 manual. I went to the new website,
> selected 'support' from the menu, then 'manuals', which took me to the
> 'document and manuals download' page. I am unable to go farther.
> Clicking on any of the six choices available gets me nowhere.
>
> VE7XF
>
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From n4zr at comcast.net  Mon Oct 29 21:15:32 2018
From: n4zr at comcast.net (N4ZR)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 21:15:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New website problem - no manuals
In-Reply-To: <F2545EBF-F082-4737-93F2-E191077E6112@widomaker.com>
References: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
	<F2545EBF-F082-4737-93F2-E191077E6112@widomaker.com>
Message-ID: <d13cedec-6851-f6b3-ccdf-e6e25fa01280@comcast.net>

Which is fine, but I have a middle-aged K3, with the new synthesizers 
and other factory fixes.? However, my manual is forty-leven MCU updates 
behind.? Is there anywhere that an updated K3 manual can be uploaded?

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 10/29/2018 8:51 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> Well I just downloaded the K3S Mamual on my iPhone.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Ralph Parker <ve7xf at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I need a new version of the K3 manual. I went to the new website, selected 'support' from the menu, then 'manuals', which took me to the 'document and manuals download' page. I am unable to go farther. Clicking on any of the six choices available gets me nowhere.
>>
>> VE7XF
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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>>
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From ghyoungman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 21:46:35 2018
From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 21:46:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New website problem - no manuals
In-Reply-To: <d13cedec-6851-f6b3-ccdf-e6e25fa01280@comcast.net>
References: <143568ef-e0b7-807a-dfce-48de35ca5edd@shaw.ca>
	<F2545EBF-F082-4737-93F2-E191077E6112@widomaker.com>
	<d13cedec-6851-f6b3-ccdf-e6e25fa01280@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E79FEA9F-3602-481F-A866-EFFB4B28FC4B@gmail.com>

Download the K3S manual.  It?s right where it says it is on the website ? https://elecraft.com/pages/manuals-downloads 

The differences between the K3S and K3 are VERY minor ? I think related to preamp options as far as menu selections are concerned.    And then get the latest firmware update history to get the changes since the manual was produced (It?s dated 2015).  Firmware update history has always been the source for the most recent firmware changes ? and they are the same for the K3 or K3S.  Located here ? https://elecraft.com/pages/firmware-software <https://elecraft.com/pages/firmware-software>

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Oct 29, 2018, at 9:15 PM, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Which is fine, but I have a middle-aged K3, with the new synthesizers and other factory fixes.  However, my manual is forty-leven MCU updates behind.  Is there anywhere that an updated K3 manual can be uploaded?
> 
> 7

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Oct 29 23:08:39 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>

Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.

1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed. 

Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 ports are the most susceptible.

2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how lightning finds its way in:

   http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf

At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, common ground.

3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm

73,
Wayne
N6KR





From lists at w2irt.net  Tue Oct 30 01:01:41 2018
From: lists at w2irt.net (Peter Dougherty (W2IRT))
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 01:01:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Accessories or upgrades to K3s?
Message-ID: <011d01d4700d$a6275bb0$f2761310$@net>

Now that the problem with the KPA3 module on my K3s has been identified I'm
sending my beloved rig off to Watsonville later today. While it's out
getting re-Elecrafted, I'm wondering if there are any mods or improvements
that I should be considering. I bought it assembled in 2015, ordered the
first day it was offered for sale, in fact. I have matched 2.7 filters,
matched 400s for Diversity RX, a 250 and 2.1 in the main RX and the 13 kHz
TX filter. I don't have the DVK or TXCO (and I still don't know what I'd do
with the latter). So anything else I should consider?

Thanks in advance!


----------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Peter Dougherty, W2IRT

DXCC Card Checker/CQ-WAZ Checkpoint

www.facebook.com/W2IRT

 


From n7tb at comcast.net  Tue Oct 30 01:07:06 2018
From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:07:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Message-ID: <1540876026231-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I have
interfaced to Win4K3Suite.

The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back,
one ACC and one DATA.

I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the
spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.

What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
order to get the spectrum scope to work.

Thanks and 73's,

Terry, N7TB



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From nr4c at widomaker.com  Tue Oct 30 06:08:32 2018
From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:08:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Accessories or upgrades to K3s?
In-Reply-To: <011d01d4700d$a6275bb0$f2761310$@net>
References: <011d01d4700d$a6275bb0$f2761310$@net>
Message-ID: <0C101F6A-F482-48EE-8471-DCBD8F3279B9@widomaker.com>

Get the KDVR. It can be useful as well as fun!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 30, 2018, at 1:01 AM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <lists at w2irt.net> wrote:
> 
> Now that the problem with the KPA3 module on my K3s has been identified I'm
> sending my beloved rig off to Watsonville later today. While it's out
> getting re-Elecrafted, I'm wondering if there are any mods or improvements
> that I should be considering. I bought it assembled in 2015, ordered the
> first day it was offered for sale, in fact. I have matched 2.7 filters,
> matched 400s for Diversity RX, a 250 and 2.1 in the main RX and the 13 kHz
> TX filter. I don't have the DVK or TXCO (and I still don't know what I'd do
> with the latter). So anything else I should consider?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> Regards,
> Peter Dougherty, W2IRT
> 
> DXCC Card Checker/CQ-WAZ Checkpoint
> 
> www.facebook.com/W2IRT
> 
> 
> 
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From w5sum at comcast.net  Tue Oct 30 06:35:44 2018
From: w5sum at comcast.net (w5sum at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 05:35:44 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com><4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com><9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com><082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com><24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com><bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com><F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com><D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>

very good suggestions Wayne. I work in the Communications field and have for 
40 years. I have seen massive amounts of lightning damage, regardless of 
grounding , protection, etc etc. If you take a direct hit.. something is 
going to fry and that?s it.

I unplug antennas, power cords AND Ethernet Cables to all computers in my 
ham shack. I must confess however, I have not disconnected the USB and RS232 
lines. I sort of figure if the power cord and ethernet cables to my computer 
are disconnected, the path for the power surge is eliminated. BUT.. guess it 
would be better to be sure. And btw, yes my computers are all grounded very 
well.

thanks for the heads up

Ronnie W5SUM


-----Original Message----- 
From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:08 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Cc: KX3 at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear

Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have 
been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can 
take steps to reduce your own risk.

1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. 
But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an 
attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. 
They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize 
this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable 
to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.

Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports 
(accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 
ports are the most susceptible.

2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge 
protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly 
recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how 
lightning finds its way in:

   http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf

At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, 
common ground.

3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm

73,
Wayne
N6KR




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From k4to.dave at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 08:08:43 2018
From: k4to.dave at gmail.com (Dave Sublette)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:08:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>
Message-ID: <CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>

For the past 30 years I have lived-in the highest point for 25 miles in any
direction.  I have three towers, 70 feet, 150 feet, and, until two years
ago, 200 feet.  I lowered the 200 foot tower to 155 feet two years ago.
For the first 15 years my equipment was struck and damaged 4 times for a
total of $15000 dollars in damage.  This inspite of the fact that
everything was grounded.  I'm sure something wasn't right with the
grounding systems, or this wouldn't have happened.  After one strike, the
drawers were welded shut on the metal desk the equipment was sitting on.

At that point, 15 years ago, I built all wooden tables to sit the equipment
on and started a policy of disconnecting everything that went to the
outside world.  I made a written checklist and followed it faithfully every
time it clouded up or I had to leave the equipment for more than a few
hours.

I reconfigured the AC to the equipment to be fed by one circuit.  I don't
run an amplifier so the power load was less than 500 watts, I am sure.  The
AC supply for the gear comes from the inverter, a pure sine wave circuit
and a 100 amp hour AGM battery. That inverter goes to the only source of
AC.  All computers are also powered from the same system.

So when I disconnect, one AC plug removes everything from AC source.  THEN
I also disconnect the phone line to the house at the outside customer
access box. AND I disconnect the station ground which goes through the
largest power pole connector available.  Now the equipment is bonded
together and isolated from ground.

All cables are disconnected and removed from the vicinity by several inches
(a weak point, I know).

Since implementing this system fifteen years ago, I have had zero lightning
damage, even though I have seen direct strikes to the towers.

I spent ten years of my EE design career designing lightning suppression
circuits.  The bottom line is, you can't prevent damage if things are
connected to the outside world.

I won't even sit in the same room with the gear when lightning is about.
During one of the strikes, I had a turned wooden lamp sitting on the top
shelf of my rig setup.  I forgot to unplug it.  Lightning got it and it
exploded, creating 15 inch long splinters out of the lamp body.  One buried
itself in the wall, leaving a one inch diameter hole, which I have left as
a reminder.  Several other splinters flew 12 feet across the room (right
through the space where I would have been sitting in my chair) and buried
themselves in the back of a small couch where my wife usually sits and
reads in the evenings.  At the time, we were out of town.  When I returned
and found the scene, my first thought was that someone had broken in and
trashed the place.

Bottom line --- disconnect power, telephone line, ground bus, and all
cables every time, no exceptions.

PS-- my Mac Mini does  not have a way to attach a ground wire unless I want
to drill and tap a hole in the aluminum case for a ground screw.

End of soapbox...

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:36 AM <w5sum at comcast.net> wrote:

> very good suggestions Wayne. I work in the Communications field and have
> for
> 40 years. I have seen massive amounts of lightning damage, regardless of
> grounding , protection, etc etc. If you take a direct hit.. something is
> going to fry and that?s it.
>
> I unplug antennas, power cords AND Ethernet Cables to all computers in my
> ham shack. I must confess however, I have not disconnected the USB and
> RS232
> lines. I sort of figure if the power cord and ethernet cables to my
> computer
> are disconnected, the path for the power surge is eliminated. BUT.. guess
> it
> would be better to be sure. And btw, yes my computers are all grounded
> very
> well.
>
> thanks for the heads up
>
> Ronnie W5SUM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:08 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Cc: KX3 at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
>
> Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have
> been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You
> can
> take steps to reduce your own risk.
>
> 1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is
> anticipated.
> But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from
> an
> attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning
> strikes.
> They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize
> this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB
> cable
> to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.
>
> Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports
> (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and
> RS232
> ports are the most susceptible.
>
> 2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or
> surge
> protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly
> recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how
> lightning finds its way in:
>
>
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>
> At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy,
> common ground.
>
> 3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>
>     https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 30 08:36:24 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>
	<CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9740dfb3-f0d4-4e69-75d0-34313cb34736@blomand.net>

The word we use is "mitigation".?? All efforts in this regard are done 
to minimize damage.?? Note that I used "minimize damage". With 
lightning, "elimination of damage" is not a word or phrase we use.?? 
Thus with lightning, "mitigation" methods should be carefully 
considered, and in the finality of things, expect and plan for some damage.

73

Bob, K4TAX




From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 09:31:16 2018
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:31:16 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <1540876026231-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540876026231-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <em9bea3905-e80e-42bd-831b-56b69be68d5d@office-desktop-i>

Terry,
     All you should need is a connection to the computers com port. 
Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the 
data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the 
computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer 
side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for 
the radio just as you did for the KX3.

     BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There 
were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run 
into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this 
reflector.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Terry" <n7tb at comcast.net>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question

>I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I 
>have
>interfaced to Win4K3Suite.
>
>The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the 
>back,
>one ACC and one DATA.
>
>I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use 
>the
>spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.
>
>What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
>order to get the spectrum scope to work.
>
>Thanks and 73's,
>
>Terry, N7TB
>
>
>
>--
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From dave.scarfe at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 09:51:42 2018
From: dave.scarfe at gmail.com (Dave Scarfe)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:51:42 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <em9bea3905-e80e-42bd-831b-56b69be68d5d@office-desktop-i>
References: <1540876026231-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<em9bea3905-e80e-42bd-831b-56b69be68d5d@office-desktop-i>
Message-ID: <CADUd-C-8t9jAeCBsjwzy=g6Mu4tkd2rm72+iWQErsJaXejS4Ew@mail.gmail.com>

Does not require an SDR, like an SDRPlay?

73,
de VE5UO

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:33 AM Barry <barrylazar2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Terry,
>      All you should need is a connection to the computers com port.
> Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the
> data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the
> computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer
> side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for
> the radio just as you did for the KX3.
>
>      BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There
> were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run
> into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this
> reflector.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Terry" <n7tb at comcast.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
>
> >I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I
> >have
> >interfaced to Win4K3Suite.
> >
> >The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the
> >back,
> >one ACC and one DATA.
> >
> >I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use
> >the
> >spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.
> >
> >What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
> >order to get the spectrum scope to work.
> >
> >Thanks and 73's,
> >
> >Terry, N7TB
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Oct 30 09:54:14 2018
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:54:14 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <em2bb93fe2-9192-4752-a7ff-19864f9dde4e@office-desktop-i>

Wayne,
     Good advice! I use a combination of preventatives. First, I buffer 
my power going to any sensitive electronics. I use a battery backup 
system, an UPS, to buffer the power. If there is a surge, the battery 
absorbs it. Second, I believe you will ultimately have a problem if you 
leave your radios connected to you antenna(s). So, I disconnect all of 
my station from my antennas during periods when lightning is expected. I 
have learned my lesson from having lost equipment. Since I started with 
this setup, I have had no problem, and it is far less expensive than a 
full blown lightning protection system.

     One last comment: I suggest that an UPS be used just for the surge 
protection from A/C and other motors on the line. A large motor can 
throw quite a surge onto the line even with no lightning to add to the 
voltage. An UPS is really cheap insurance to protect your station, less 
than $100 to protect a few $1000.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Wayne Burdick" <n6kr at elecraft.com>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: "KX3 at yahoogroups.com" <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 10/29/2018 11:08:39 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear

>Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that 
>have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective 
>circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.
>
>1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is 
>anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, 
>by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail 
>due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to 
>other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I 
>disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which 
>left the interface to their radio exposed.
>
>Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports 
>(accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and 
>RS232 ports are the most susceptible.
>
>2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or 
>surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we 
>strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail 
>regarding how lightning finds its way in:
>
>http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>
>At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, 
>common ground.
>
>3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>
>https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
>
>
>
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From clark.macaulay at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 10:00:00 2018
From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (engineercm)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:00:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
Message-ID: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
transmissions of those calling VP6D.

I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before.  Current
version: 1.9.1.  Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are
calling.  Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several
WSJT-X resources.  Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38.  Rx All
Freqs checked.

So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D?  Is it my
modest antenna?  Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? 
Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message.  Many are
calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO.  

Any suggestions greatly appreciated!



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From barrylazar2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 10:00:30 2018
From: barrylazar2 at gmail.com (Barry)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:00:30 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <CADUd-C-8t9jAeCBsjwzy=g6Mu4tkd2rm72+iWQErsJaXejS4Ew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1540876026231-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<em9bea3905-e80e-42bd-831b-56b69be68d5d@office-desktop-i>
	<CADUd-C-8t9jAeCBsjwzy=g6Mu4tkd2rm72+iWQErsJaXejS4Ew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <emc17e1380-a819-41e9-b012-88499d3781db@office-desktop-i>

No! The KX3 has I&Q analog data coming out of the side of the radio 
already. All that is needed is to feed an external sound card that data, 
and then, tell Win4K3 what the spectrum source is, pretty straight 
forward. I find the KX3 setup easier and less complex than the K3. With 
the K3, you need either a SDRPlay or a LP Pan to baseband the IF and 
develop the I&Q analog data needed. Wayne essentially designed that in 
the KX3.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Dave Scarfe" <dave.scarfe at gmail.com>
To: barrylazar2 at gmail.com
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 10/30/2018 9:51:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question

>Does not require an SDR, like an SDRPlay?
>
>73,
>de VE5UO
>
>On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:33 AM Barry <barrylazar2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Terry,
>>      All you should need is a connection to the computers com port.
>>Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the
>>data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the
>>computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the 
>>computer
>>side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using 
>>for
>>the radio just as you did for the KX3.
>>
>>      BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. 
>>There
>>were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really 
>>run
>>into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this
>>reflector.
>>
>>73,
>>Barry
>>K3NDM
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Terry" <n7tb at comcast.net>
>>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM
>>Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
>>
>> >I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I
>> >have
>> >interfaced to Win4K3Suite.
>> >
>> >The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in 
>>the
>> >back,
>> >one ACC and one DATA.
>> >
>> >I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use
>> >the
>> >spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.
>> >
>> >What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite 
>>in
>> >order to get the spectrum scope to work.
>> >
>> >Thanks and 73's,
>> >
>> >Terry, N7TB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
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From cyaffey at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 10:25:15 2018
From: cyaffey at gmail.com (Carl Yaffey)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:25:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>

I worked them. Like you, I heard many ?hounds? and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it?s propagation. Keep calling.
73

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <clark.macaulay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
> transmissions of those calling VP6D.
> 
> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before.  Current
> version: 1.9.1.  Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are
> calling.  Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several
> WSJT-X resources.  Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38.  Rx All
> Freqs checked.
> 
> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D?  Is it my
> modest antenna?  Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? 
> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message.  Many are
> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO.  
> 
> Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
> 

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
Recording studio.
cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com 
614 268 6353, Columbus OH
http://www.carl-yaffey.com
http://www.grassahol.com
http://www.bluesswing.com


From kc6cnn at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 10:24:53 2018
From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (Gerald Manthey)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:24:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <em9bea3905-e80e-42bd-831b-56b69be68d5d@office-desktop-i>
References: <1540876026231-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<em9bea3905-e80e-42bd-831b-56b69be68d5d@office-desktop-i>
Message-ID: <5bd869b5.1c69fb81.c433a.b70b@mx.google.com>

I use win4k3 as my rig control. I use the macros window to control other things. It also has the ability work with AC LOG which is my favorite logging software. It also works with other digital software. 
I use the small rig control window. The only thing I wish it had was adjustable window sizes. 
Great software. I am not an employee or paid by them. Just my opinion . 
73 Gerald


From: Barry
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:34 AM
To: Terry; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question

Terry,
     All you should need is a connection to the computers com port. 
Win4K3 know which radio and just works. The connection should be the 
data connection, but you will need a compatible connection on the 
computer or an adapter if you only have USB connections on the computer 
side. Just make sure you can tell Win4K3 what com port you are using for 
the radio just as you did for the KX3.

     BTW: I started out with the KX3 and moved up as you are doing. There 
were no compatibility issues. Good luck and have fun. If you really run 
into a problem, Tom usually pops up and helps; he monitors this 
reflector.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Terry" <n7tb at comcast.net>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 10/30/2018 1:07:06 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question

>I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I 
>have
>interfaced to Win4K3Suite.
>
>The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the 
>back,
>one ACC and one DATA.
>
>I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use 
>the
>spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.
>
>What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
>order to get the spectrum scope to work.
>
>Thanks and 73's,
>
>Terry, N7TB
>
>
>
>--
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From w2kj at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 30 10:49:55 2018
From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:49:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] F.S. Timewave Navigator
Message-ID: <210E1A4D-E9AE-4E70-80F3-17C82719F7C5@bellsouth.net>

Howdy Gang.

The Timewave Navigator advertised yesterday has been sold.

			73, Joe W2KJ
			I QRP, therefore I am

From w0gv at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 30 10:53:45 2018
From: w0gv at hotmail.com (Gerry Villhauer)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:53:45 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Thanks for the help
Message-ID: <DM5PR20MB1932A3DD1866BD25B37509DA99CC0@DM5PR20MB1932.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Just a note about the customer service I received from Elecraft.  I have been having a problem getting my newly acquired K3/0 mini and Remoterig to work over the internet. I received a callback from Brandon, he very excellently, talked me through the setup and got the problem solved.  I have never received that quality of service from any of the other manufactures that I have dealt with in my 50 years of ham radio.


Gerry, W0GV

Westminster, CO

From ns9i at bayland.net  Tue Oct 30 11:15:03 2018
From: ns9i at bayland.net (dgb)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:15:03 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Thanks for the help
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR20MB1932A3DD1866BD25B37509DA99CC0@DM5PR20MB1932.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM5PR20MB1932A3DD1866BD25B37509DA99CC0@DM5PR20MB1932.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <02e8c49f-3ba1-7964-2ee0-ae3dc324f74e@bayland.net>

Yes Brandon is tops!

73 Dwight NS9I

On 10/30/2018 10:53 AM, Gerry Villhauer wrote:
> Just a note about the customer service I received from Elecraft.  I have been having a problem getting my newly acquired K3/0 mini and Remoterig to work over the internet. I received a callback from Brandon, he very excellently, talked me through the setup and got the problem solved.  I have never received that quality of service from any of the other manufactures that I have dealt with in my 50 years of ham radio.
>
>
> Gerry, W0GV
>
> Westminster, CO
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From ve3iay at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 11:21:49 2018
From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:21:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Message-ID: <CAJ-xeHms310udsq91UUnXYSaFjoYPbJAyGUNoFe=3f3Fjdu_mw@mail.gmail.com>

The two connectors you mentioned are actually a DE-9 RS232 port, for radio
control communications with the computer, and a DE-15 ACC port, which is
generally used for communicating with other station equipment such as a
power amplifier, band switches, bandpass filters, automatic antenna tuners,
FSK (RTTY) keying interfaces, and so on. The RS232 port is certainly needed
by Win4K3Suite, but to the best of my knowledge, the ACC port is not needed
to operate with Win4K3Suite.

In order to use the RS232 port, you will need either a serial cable to a
serial port in the computer, or a USB to serial adapter (such as the KUSB -
but not the KXUSB).

You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will
need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I
believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file
available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use,
it must be capable of operating at HF.

You did not mention whether the K3 you are looking at has the KXV3 option
installed. This has five BNC connectors on it, for IF Out, XVTR In and Out,
and RX Ant In and Out. This option is highly useful, although not 100%
necessary, for use with an SDR for a spectrum display.

If your K3 does not have the KXV3 option installed, you will need some way
to connect the SDR to an antenna, and some means to isolate that SDR from
the antenna whenever you are transmitting, such as an external
transmit/receive switch controlled by the K3.

There is more information on this in the Win4K3Suite documentation.

73,
Rich VE3KI


N7TB wrote:

I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I have
interfaced to Win4K3Suite.

The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back,
one ACC and one DATA.

I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the
spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.

What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
order to get the spectrum scope to work.

From n5lz at comcast.net  Tue Oct 30 11:22:02 2018
From: n5lz at comcast.net (Don Butler)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:22:02 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.143.1540913053.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Same intermittent problem here.   I finally found that the ?Decode only 77 bit messages? box seems to be checked by default when you go to fox/hound mode in WSJT-X V 2.0.0 RC3 ? when it is ?unchecked? VP6D?s transmissions will suddenly be decoded ?. BUT that unchecked box cannot be saved ? the next time you launch and go in fox hound mode the box seems to be checked again by default ?. So when decoding of VP6D transmissions seems to stop ? go to advanced settings and uncheck that box and the messages will reappear ?  it is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed in the software ?. And apparently something different that VP6D seems to be doing with its transmitted messages ???

Don, N5LZ

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carl Yaffey
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:27 AM
To: engineercm
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D

I worked them. Like you, I heard many ?hounds? and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it?s propagation. Keep calling.
73

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <clark.macaulay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
> transmissions of those calling VP6D.
> 
> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before.  Current
> version: 1.9.1.  Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are
> calling.  Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several
> WSJT-X resources.  Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38.  Rx All
> Freqs checked.
> 
> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D?  Is it my
> modest antenna?  Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? 
> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message.  Many are
> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO.  
> 
> Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
> 

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
Recording studio.
cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com 
614 268 6353, Columbus OH
http://www.carl-yaffey.com
http://www.grassahol.com
http://www.bluesswing.com

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From johnae5x at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 11:28:22 2018
From: johnae5x at gmail.com (John Harper)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:28:22 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft]  K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
Message-ID: <CAPHmH=MSbc5JXWhcnABb19=bc7qTWD=+XBXGKNmFgGGOt+Z7mQ@mail.gmail.com>

Since VP6D is responding to multiple callers at once (on multiple
frequencies), his signal strength is reduced from what it would be if he
were making a transmission on a single frequency.

For example, if a single-freq reply from him would be -23dB, if he is
transmitting to several callers simultaneously on 3 different frequencies,
his strength on each would be only about -25.5 dB so maybe below your
threshold for copying him until he makes a single-frequency reply.

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com  Tue Oct 30 12:17:20 2018
From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:17:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>,
	<E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>,
	<CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>

In the fall of 1988 I installed a 160 foot tower. I already had a 120 foot tower and 
an 88 foot tower In the spring of 1989 the tall tower was hit by a direct hit and it 
was about 10K to repair all the damage. My homeowners insurance company was 
not at all impressed. I was given Assigned Risk Homeowners insurance and they 
also told me. You have 30 days to either get all those antennas and towers on the 
ground or else install a "Commercial Grounding System" or else your insurance is 
cancelled. At that time I am sure the mortgage company woudn't have been at all 
impressed. 

During the summer of 1989 I installed. 100 Ground Rods some in a radial pattern 
away from the towers and some in a perimeter ground around the house. The 
Radial pattern from the towers is in excess of 1/3rd the total height of the tall 
tower. ground rods are all 16 feet apart. All are connected by 3/8" inside diameter 
copper tubing silver soldered to the ground rods. A total of about 1200 feet of 
copper tubing.  I installed many Polyphaser protection devices on coax cable lines 
Rotors 5 of them on the three towers relay boxes to switch the 30 some yagi 
antennas on the towers and wire low band antennas. Hundreds of wires 
connecting all the relay switchboxes that select whatever antenna configuration 
you might want. In addition to all of the above we have Whole House Protection 
device on the main breaker box. And an additional one on a Sub Breaker box that 
is in the hamshack room. All devices in the hamshack have their own grounding 
strap that is connected directly to the ground strap a 2 inch wide copper strap 
along the backside of the table that has the equipment on it. As a last line of 
defense each Band Coax that enters the hamshack room has one of MFJ's Arc 
Plug switches and I have never blown any of the arc plugs. Because I am in 
Florida for 6 months of the year and the station is in Northern Indiana I operate it 
remotely while in Florida.

 I am the lightning rod for the entire neighborhood. I am within a few feet of being 
the highest point in the county. 

The tall tower has had MANY direct hits since installing the commercial style 
ground system in 1989. I had a Hit Counter on the tower for a few years until I 
broke it one day while climbing on the tower. I think the counter had over 100 hits 
registered. To Date ZERO DAMAGE to anything in the house or on the towers. 
That is ZERO DAMAGE. A great big THANK YOU to the guys at Polyphaser for 
all the advice as to what to install and where to install it. 

I do have to retract one portion of the above statement. Once after a major hit the 
whole house protector on the main breaker box was smoking after the hit. Wife 
came into the shack and said that box on the breaker box is smoking. I told Jean 
that the box wasn't old enough to smoke. She didn't see the humor in that one. I 
called Polyphaser on the phone and the nice lady asked me one question. Was 
anything in the house damaged other than the whole house protector? I answered 
NO everything in the house and on the towers is all OK. I then asked her to 
overnite me a replacement box since it was at that time over 10 years old and 
finally gave its little life to allow the rest of the house ZERO DAMAGE. We were 
into our normal major spring time storm season. New Whole House protector  
arrived and was installed the next day. 

And to date Twenty Nine years later 
ZERO DAMAGE Again a big thank you to Polyphaser Turn BLITZ into BLISS. 

So YES a Tower can be protected from damage. When the TV stations and Radio 
station towers get hit they don't even go off air. Neither does my Ham Station. 

Copy the URL below into your favorite browser for a you tube video of my  QTH. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvRrummVFY

The Video was made while we were installing a new low band receive antenna at 
150 foot level on the tower. Drone and GoPro headband cameras. Yes that crane 
would do 275 feet from it's base. Yes that is ME in the Man Cage along with Dan 
one of the Fruchey Iron workers. I wearing the GoPro headband camera and my 
friend Dino Raptis KR9V operating his Drone. Thanks to Dino KR9V as all the 
video equipment is his and his editing to produce the You Tube Video

73
John k9uwa
John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
k9uwa at arrl.net
Visit our Web Site at:
http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
4836 Ranch Road
Leo, IN 46765
USA
1-260-637-6426


From johnae5x at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 12:19:10 2018
From: johnae5x at gmail.com (John Harper)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:19:10 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft]  K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
Message-ID: <CAPHmH=N5NFD5E9vYJSLQ4kwVzx0n_hTB4aGNKDdGmjxMBMS9vw@mail.gmail.com>

Correction: -28.5dB

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 30 12:49:37 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:49:37 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <20181030152511.C4560149B3A1@mailman.qth.net>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
	<20181030152511.C4560149B3A1@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <ea1a4b80-3e2e-0c4d-1cf6-24a2101856e4@blomand.net>

Depends on which version of WSJT-X being used.??? For V1.9.1 the 77 bit 
message does not apply.??? For V2.0.0 RC3 it does apply.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/30/2018 10:22 AM, Don Butler wrote:
> Same intermittent problem here.   I finally found that the ?Decode only 77 bit messages? box seems to be checked by default when you go to fox/hound mode in WSJT-X V 2.0.0 RC3 ? when it is ?unchecked? VP6D?s transmissions will suddenly be decoded ?. BUT that unchecked box cannot be saved ? the next time you launch and go in fox hound mode the box seems to be checked again by default ?. So when decoding of VP6D transmissions seems to stop ? go to advanced settings and uncheck that box and the messages will reappear ?  it is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed in the software ?. And apparently something different that VP6D seems to be doing with its transmitted messages ???
>
> Don, N5LZ
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Carl Yaffey
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:27 AM
> To: engineercm
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
>
> I worked them. Like you, I heard many ?hounds? and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it?s propagation. Keep calling.
> 73
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <clark.macaulay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
>> transmissions of those calling VP6D.
>>
>> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before.  Current
>> version: 1.9.1.  Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are
>> calling.  Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several
>> WSJT-X resources.  Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38.  Rx All
>> Freqs checked.
>>
>> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D?  Is it my
>> modest antenna?  Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed?
>> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message.  Many are
>> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO.
>>
>> Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
>>
> Carl Yaffey  K8NU
> Recording studio.
> cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com
> 614 268 6353, Columbus OH
> http://www.carl-yaffey.com
> http://www.grassahol.com
> http://www.bluesswing.com
>
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From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 30 13:01:16 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:01:16 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>
	<CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>
Message-ID: <eedfa84d-5c26-4261-94fa-444d7921ee6b@blomand.net>

Agreed.?? And your grounding system alone certainly cost several 
thousand dollars more than most ham stations.

I will also add, if your ground system, implementation and methods do 
not comply with NEC, in the event of any loss, your insurance company 
can simply say "it has been nice doing business with you.? Your coverage 
is hear by CANCELED".

Although living? TN, my QTH is 500 ft above average terrain out to 35 
miles.?? I understand living on a hill, grounding and lightning.? Do it 
correct to minimize damage.? Do it wrong or incomplete and expect to 
encounter a loss, up to and even the house, and hopefully no loss of life.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/30/2018 11:17 AM, John K9UWA wrote:
> In the fall of 1988 I installed a 160 foot tower. I already had a 120 foot tower and
> an 88 foot tower In the spring of 1989 the tall tower was hit by a direct hit and it
> was about 10K to repair all the damage. My homeowners insurance company was
> not at all impressed. I was given Assigned Risk Homeowners insurance and they
> also told me. You have 30 days to either get all those antennas and towers on the
> ground or else install a "Commercial Grounding System" or else your insurance is
> cancelled. At that time I am sure the mortgage company woudn't have been at all
> impressed.
>
> During the summer of 1989 I installed. 100 Ground Rods some in a radial pattern
> away from the towers and some in a perimeter ground around the house. The
> Radial pattern from the towers is in excess of 1/3rd the total height of the tall
> tower. ground rods are all 16 feet apart. All are connected by 3/8" inside diameter
> copper tubing silver soldered to the ground rods. A total of about 1200 feet of
> copper tubing.  I installed many Polyphaser protection devices on coax cable lines
> Rotors 5 of them on the three towers relay boxes to switch the 30 some yagi
> antennas on the towers and wire low band antennas. Hundreds of wires
> connecting all the relay switchboxes that select whatever antenna configuration
> you might want. In addition to all of the above we have Whole House Protection
> device on the main breaker box. And an additional one on a Sub Breaker box that
> is in the hamshack room. All devices in the hamshack have their own grounding
> strap that is connected directly to the ground strap a 2 inch wide copper strap
> along the backside of the table that has the equipment on it. As a last line of
> defense each Band Coax that enters the hamshack room has one of MFJ's Arc
> Plug switches and I have never blown any of the arc plugs. Because I am in
> Florida for 6 months of the year and the station is in Northern Indiana I operate it
> remotely while in Florida.
>
>   I am the lightning rod for the entire neighborhood. I am within a few feet of being
> the highest point in the county.
>
> The tall tower has had MANY direct hits since installing the commercial style
> ground system in 1989. I had a Hit Counter on the tower for a few years until I
> broke it one day while climbing on the tower. I think the counter had over 100 hits
> registered. To Date ZERO DAMAGE to anything in the house or on the towers.
> That is ZERO DAMAGE. A great big THANK YOU to the guys at Polyphaser for
> all the advice as to what to install and where to install it.
>
> I do have to retract one portion of the above statement. Once after a major hit the
> whole house protector on the main breaker box was smoking after the hit. Wife
> came into the shack and said that box on the breaker box is smoking. I told Jean
> that the box wasn't old enough to smoke. She didn't see the humor in that one. I
> called Polyphaser on the phone and the nice lady asked me one question. Was
> anything in the house damaged other than the whole house protector? I answered
> NO everything in the house and on the towers is all OK. I then asked her to
> overnite me a replacement box since it was at that time over 10 years old and
> finally gave its little life to allow the rest of the house ZERO DAMAGE. We were
> into our normal major spring time storm season. New Whole House protector
> arrived and was installed the next day.
>
> And to date Twenty Nine years later
> ZERO DAMAGE Again a big thank you to Polyphaser Turn BLITZ into BLISS.
>
> So YES a Tower can be protected from damage. When the TV stations and Radio
> station towers get hit they don't even go off air. Neither does my Ham Station.
>
> Copy the URL below into your favorite browser for a you tube video of my  QTH.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvRrummVFY
>
> The Video was made while we were installing a new low band receive antenna at
> 150 foot level on the tower. Drone and GoPro headband cameras. Yes that crane
> would do 275 feet from it's base. Yes that is ME in the Man Cage along with Dan
> one of the Fruchey Iron workers. I wearing the GoPro headband camera and my
> friend Dino Raptis KR9V operating his Drone. Thanks to Dino KR9V as all the
> video equipment is his and his editing to produce the You Tube Video
>
> 73
> John k9uwa
> John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF
> Antique Radio Restorations
> k9uwa at arrl.net
> Visit our Web Site at:
> http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
> 4836 Ranch Road
> Leo, IN 46765
> USA
> 1-260-637-6426
>
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From bill at wjschmidt.com  Tue Oct 30 13:20:33 2018
From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:20:33 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
Message-ID: <06ad01d47074$ddef1ee0$99cd5ca0$@wjschmidt.com>

So I've been here before.  Had a bad lightning strike and then put a lot of
effort into constructing a proper commercial grounding system around my
vertical.  That part worked very well.  What I never expected is that the
next strike would jump over the vertical, over my drive way and follow the
telephone cable into the house.  Even with lightning arrestors on the phone
lines, it still managed to damage a lot of electronic devices all over the
house (including ham gear) by lifting the ground in many places that had no
connection to the phone lines.  We live and learn.

 

 

K9HZ

 


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Oct 30 13:58:03 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:58:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <313de644-efe2-4cc7-ce53-cc95f91c5381@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/29/2018 8:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.

Don't blame the computer -- it's the MOV "surge protector" that the 
computer is plugged into. As hams, we're fixated on antennas as entry 
points for lightning, but power lines, telephone lines, and CATV lines 
are more common entry points, and the DIFFERENTIAL voltages during a 
strike between interconnected equipment fries them. Several pro audio 
engineering colleagues who were not hams experienced damage to their 
networked computers from lightning strikes, and it was an issue with the 
large audio systems we designed for worship and performance venues. The 
solution is a SERIES MODE surge protector that stores the energy from a 
strike in an inductor, then discharges it slowly. MOVs shove the strike 
current onto the green wire back to the panel and ground rod, generating 
the differential voltage that fries equipment.

Several rules. 1) Proper BONDING is FAR more important that bigger 
ground conductors. 2) NEVER use MOV surge protectors -- they are far 
more likely to CAUSE equipment destruction than to prevent it. 3) Follow 
NEC (the National Electric Code) for grounding and bonding.

N0AX's recent ARRL book on Grounding and Bonding is excellent. I worked 
with him on it, and much of it is based on my tutorial talk on the topic.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC


From k2asp at kanafi.org  Tue Oct 30 14:06:44 2018
From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:06:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>
	<CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>
Message-ID: <be8d13c4-9a05-dfd0-82f9-e8a308c4dc8d@kanafi.org>

On 10/30/2018 9:17 AM, John K9UWA wrote:

> So YES a Tower can be protected from damage. When the TV stations and Radio 
> station towers get hit they don't even go off air. Neither does my Ham Station. 

My firm designs communication sites for the Public Safety and Homeland
Security sectors (and any others who are willing to afford us).  Our
standard tried-and-true site grounding systems require a ground ring
buried in conductive concrete in deep trenches.  Many ground rods and
the leads to protected structures are cad-welded to this ring before the
trenches are back-filled with earth.  .  Inside each equipment enclosure
there is a comparable "halo" ground ring with leads to each piece of
equipment, as well as entry protectors on every electrical service,
communication, and antenna cable coming into the enclosure(s).

This system was originally designed and refined by Tom Croda (KB6KBI -
SK), a member of our firm  who was a nationally-acknowledged expert in
power and grounding systems for communication sites.  Our clients using
this system haven't lost any structures or equipment.

On topic - both my CEO and myself are Elecraft users and we haven't lost
any of those either.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

VP - General Counsel & Engineering Manager
CSI Telecommunications, Inc. - Consulting Engineers
San Francisco, CA - Beaverton, OR

From lists at subich.com  Tue Oct 30 14:45:04 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:45:04 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<E16BD96AEE0C4C97B38299446F8FB427@MININTMC1HLDC>
	<CAKynJKmnTz8zqYkTPfr+QTXWZbKuoBje2p279va3ThtwMsr7Aw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>
Message-ID: <faba973f-b070-0ff4-df11-913a6408cd2a@subich.com>


This is key.  I spent most of my professional life as Director of 
Engineering in TV stations.  Our towers were hit in nearly every
thunderstorm (1000 - 1600 foot towers are targets) but never had
any lightning damage to towers, antennas or equipment because the
towers were properly grounded, all the feedlines were bonded to
the tower, ground system and building and the buildings had a
complete perimeter ground.

The same holds true for amateur installations ... install a proper
lightning ground on the tower(s), bond the feedlines to the towers
at the top, bottom and every 100 +/- feet.  Install a complete
perimeter ground for the house; bond it to the power line entrance
ground *and* bond the feedlines to the perimeter ground ring where
they cross it.  Bond all the equipment chassis together *INCLUDING*
all computers, network switches, routers, telephone equipment, etc.

If you decide you can't afford to install proper bonding and grounding,
be prepared to replace all the electronic equipment in your home and
shack when your number comes up.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-30 12:17 PM, John K9UWA wrote:
> In the fall of 1988 I installed a 160 foot tower. I already had a 120 foot tower and
> an 88 foot tower In the spring of 1989 the tall tower was hit by a direct hit and it
> was about 10K to repair all the damage. My homeowners insurance company was
> not at all impressed. I was given Assigned Risk Homeowners insurance and they
> also told me. You have 30 days to either get all those antennas and towers on the
> ground or else install a "Commercial Grounding System" or else your insurance is
> cancelled. At that time I am sure the mortgage company woudn't have been at all
> impressed.
> 
> During the summer of 1989 I installed. 100 Ground Rods some in a radial pattern
> away from the towers and some in a perimeter ground around the house. The
> Radial pattern from the towers is in excess of 1/3rd the total height of the tall
> tower. ground rods are all 16 feet apart. All are connected by 3/8" inside diameter
> copper tubing silver soldered to the ground rods. A total of about 1200 feet of
> copper tubing.  I installed many Polyphaser protection devices on coax cable lines
> Rotors 5 of them on the three towers relay boxes to switch the 30 some yagi
> antennas on the towers and wire low band antennas. Hundreds of wires
> connecting all the relay switchboxes that select whatever antenna configuration
> you might want. In addition to all of the above we have Whole House Protection
> device on the main breaker box. And an additional one on a Sub Breaker box that
> is in the hamshack room. All devices in the hamshack have their own grounding
> strap that is connected directly to the ground strap a 2 inch wide copper strap
> along the backside of the table that has the equipment on it. As a last line of
> defense each Band Coax that enters the hamshack room has one of MFJ's Arc
> Plug switches and I have never blown any of the arc plugs. Because I am in
> Florida for 6 months of the year and the station is in Northern Indiana I operate it
> remotely while in Florida.
> 
>   I am the lightning rod for the entire neighborhood. I am within a few feet of being
> the highest point in the county.
> 
> The tall tower has had MANY direct hits since installing the commercial style
> ground system in 1989. I had a Hit Counter on the tower for a few years until I
> broke it one day while climbing on the tower. I think the counter had over 100 hits
> registered. To Date ZERO DAMAGE to anything in the house or on the towers.
> That is ZERO DAMAGE. A great big THANK YOU to the guys at Polyphaser for
> all the advice as to what to install and where to install it.
> 
> I do have to retract one portion of the above statement. Once after a major hit the
> whole house protector on the main breaker box was smoking after the hit. Wife
> came into the shack and said that box on the breaker box is smoking. I told Jean
> that the box wasn't old enough to smoke. She didn't see the humor in that one. I
> called Polyphaser on the phone and the nice lady asked me one question. Was
> anything in the house damaged other than the whole house protector? I answered
> NO everything in the house and on the towers is all OK. I then asked her to
> overnite me a replacement box since it was at that time over 10 years old and
> finally gave its little life to allow the rest of the house ZERO DAMAGE. We were
> into our normal major spring time storm season. New Whole House protector
> arrived and was installed the next day.
> 
> And to date Twenty Nine years later
> ZERO DAMAGE Again a big thank you to Polyphaser Turn BLITZ into BLISS.
> 
> So YES a Tower can be protected from damage. When the TV stations and Radio
> station towers get hit they don't even go off air. Neither does my Ham Station.
> 
> Copy the URL below into your favorite browser for a you tube video of my  QTH.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvRrummVFY
> 
> The Video was made while we were installing a new low band receive antenna at
> 150 foot level on the tower. Drone and GoPro headband cameras. Yes that crane
> would do 275 feet from it's base. Yes that is ME in the Man Cage along with Dan
> one of the Fruchey Iron workers. I wearing the GoPro headband camera and my
> friend Dino Raptis KR9V operating his Drone. Thanks to Dino KR9V as all the
> video equipment is his and his editing to produce the You Tube Video
> 
> 73
> John k9uwa
> John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF
> Antique Radio Restorations
> k9uwa at arrl.net
> Visit our Web Site at:
> http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
> 4836 Ranch Road
> Leo, IN 46765
> USA
> 1-260-637-6426
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
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> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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From lists at subich.com  Tue Oct 30 14:52:44 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:52:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-xeHms310udsq91UUnXYSaFjoYPbJAyGUNoFe=3f3Fjdu_mw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ-xeHms310udsq91UUnXYSaFjoYPbJAyGUNoFe=3f3Fjdu_mw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5ddc0587-6194-e5b1-165f-0a0bf32340b8@subich.com>

On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:
 >
> You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you
> will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the
> K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO
> dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever
> SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF.

As an alternative, you will need an IF to I/Q conversion device
(SoftRock, LP-Pan, etc.) and a sound card capable of 96KHz sample
rate (preferably 24 bit).

The SDR (e.g., the basic SDRPlay RSP) is probably less expensive than
the I/Q demodulator/high end sound card option these days but if one
already has a suitable sound card, the demodulator might work.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:
> The two connectors you mentioned are actually a DE-9 RS232 port, for radio
> control communications with the computer, and a DE-15 ACC port, which is
> generally used for communicating with other station equipment such as a
> power amplifier, band switches, bandpass filters, automatic antenna tuners,
> FSK (RTTY) keying interfaces, and so on. The RS232 port is certainly needed
> by Win4K3Suite, but to the best of my knowledge, the ACC port is not needed
> to operate with Win4K3Suite.
> 
> In order to use the RS232 port, you will need either a serial cable to a
> serial port in the computer, or a USB to serial adapter (such as the KUSB -
> but not the KXUSB).
> 
> You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will
> need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I
> believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file
> available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use,
> it must be capable of operating at HF.
> 
> You did not mention whether the K3 you are looking at has the KXV3 option
> installed. This has five BNC connectors on it, for IF Out, XVTR In and Out,
> and RX Ant In and Out. This option is highly useful, although not 100%
> necessary, for use with an SDR for a spectrum display.
> 
> If your K3 does not have the KXV3 option installed, you will need some way
> to connect the SDR to an antenna, and some means to isolate that SDR from
> the antenna whenever you are transmitting, such as an external
> transmit/receive switch controlled by the K3.
> 
> There is more information on this in the Win4K3Suite documentation.
> 
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
> 
> 
> N7TB wrote:
> 
> I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I have
> interfaced to Win4K3Suite.
> 
> The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the back,
> one ACC and one DATA.
> 
> I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the
> spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.
> 
> What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
> order to get the spectrum scope to work.



From tomb18 at videotron.ca  Tue Oct 30 15:06:56 2018
From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:06:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <HZ9vgRGF6qFkNHZ9wgwCpw@videotron.ca>
References: <CAJ-xeHms310udsq91UUnXYSaFjoYPbJAyGUNoFe=3f3Fjdu_mw@mail.gmail.com>
	<HZ9vgRGF6qFkNHZ9wgwCpw@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <BE345443838A4F178FF19CF21F525702@DESKTOPAV61F2H>

Hi,
Your options are as follows:
First you need the IF output from your K3.  Win4K3 does not support an RX 
antenna solution on the K3.  However, you can use another spectrum display 
product like HDSDR or SDRUno synced with OmniRig to Win4K3.  You would have 
to be sure that your SDR device is switched out and grounded during 
transmit.

Assuming you have the IF out, only the LPPAN and the SDRPlay devices are 
supported in Win4K3.  There is no support for EXT_IO drivers.
Since you already have a sound card for use with your KX3 I would suggest 
the LPPAN unit.

Please feel free to join the group  https://groups.io/g/win4k3suite.
The group is just starting up.

73 Tom
va2fsq.com

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 2:52 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question

On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:
>
> You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you
> will need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the
> K3. I believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO
> dll file available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever
> SDR you use, it must be capable of operating at HF.

As an alternative, you will need an IF to I/Q conversion device
(SoftRock, LP-Pan, etc.) and a sound card capable of 96KHz sample
rate (preferably 24 bit).

The SDR (e.g., the basic SDRPlay RSP) is probably less expensive than
the I/Q demodulator/high end sound card option these days but if one
already has a suitable sound card, the demodulator might work.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-30 11:21 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:
> The two connectors you mentioned are actually a DE-9 RS232 port, for radio
> control communications with the computer, and a DE-15 ACC port, which is
> generally used for communicating with other station equipment such as a
> power amplifier, band switches, bandpass filters, automatic antenna 
> tuners,
> FSK (RTTY) keying interfaces, and so on. The RS232 port is certainly 
> needed
> by Win4K3Suite, but to the best of my knowledge, the ACC port is not 
> needed
> to operate with Win4K3Suite.
>
> In order to use the RS232 port, you will need either a serial cable to a
> serial port in the computer, or a USB to serial adapter (such as the 
> KUSB -
> but not the KXUSB).
>
> You said you wanted to be able to use a spectrum scope. For that you will
> need some kind of software defined radio (SDR) external to the K3. I
> believe Win4K3Suite can use any SDR for which there is an ExtIO dll file
> available, such as one of the SDRplay RSP devices. Whichever SDR you use,
> it must be capable of operating at HF.
>
> You did not mention whether the K3 you are looking at has the KXV3 option
> installed. This has five BNC connectors on it, for IF Out, XVTR In and 
> Out,
> and RX Ant In and Out. This option is highly useful, although not 100%
> necessary, for use with an SDR for a spectrum display.
>
> If your K3 does not have the KXV3 option installed, you will need some way
> to connect the SDR to an antenna, and some means to isolate that SDR from
> the antenna whenever you are transmitting, such as an external
> transmit/receive switch controlled by the K3.
>
> There is more information on this in the Win4K3Suite documentation.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
>
> N7TB wrote:
>
> I am looking to purchase a preowned K3.  I currently own a KX3 that I have
> interfaced to Win4K3Suite.
>
> The K3 that I am considering buying has the two 9 pin Din plugs in the 
> back,
> one ACC and one DATA.
>
> I am not financially able to purchase a P3 currently and want to use the
> spectrum scope on the Win4K3Suite to do that for me.
>
> What do I need to have to be able to interface the K3 to Win4K3Suite in
> order to get the spectrum scope to work.


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From emoss98133 at msn.com  Tue Oct 30 15:19:55 2018
From: emoss98133 at msn.com (KD7PY)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:19:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1540927195924-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

download and try WSJT-X 2.0 rc3  that is the latest   I thought there is a
difference between 1.9 & 2.0 
Ed   KD7PY



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From andyfranyates at embarqmail.com  Tue Oct 30 15:30:04 2018
From: andyfranyates at embarqmail.com (Andy Yates)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:30:04 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <1540927195924-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1540927195924-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <d4932237-d870-2957-9fc3-8484aea640ea@embarqmail.com>

Follow their directions here: 
https://vp6d.com/index.php/dxpedition/ft8-operating-guidelines

Andy - W4KIL


From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com  Tue Oct 30 15:32:38 2018
From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:32:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <eedfa84d-5c26-4261-94fa-444d7921ee6b@blomand.net>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>,
	<5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>,
	<eedfa84d-5c26-4261-94fa-444d7921ee6b@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <5BD8B1D6.28468.18FA9E44@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>


From lists at subich.com  Tue Oct 30 15:49:56 2018
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:49:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <em2bb93fe2-9192-4752-a7ff-19864f9dde4e@office-desktop-i>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<em2bb93fe2-9192-4752-a7ff-19864f9dde4e@office-desktop-i>
Message-ID: <6632aa16-844e-87d4-5319-fd610d4543c0@subich.com>

On 2018-10-30 9:54 AM, Barry wrote:
 >
> One last comment: I suggest that an UPS be used just for the surge 
> protection from A/C and other motors on the line. A large motor can 
> throw quite a surge onto the line even with no lightning to add to
> the voltage. An UPS is really cheap insurance to protect your
> station, less than $100 to protect a few $1000.

Beware!  Most of what are sold as "UPS" are really "SPS" (standby
power supplies).  An SPS does not supply the load from battery and
inverter all the time.  Instead, the load is connected directly to
the line and only switched to the battery/inverter when the line
drops below about 70% of nominal voltage (typically 80 V on a 120V
system).

An SPS has little or no surge protection - typically a few MOV
devices that K9YC has rightly identified as causing more damage
than preventing in sensitive electronic equipment!

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-30 9:54 AM, Barry wrote:
> Wayne,
>  ??? Good advice! I use a combination of preventatives. First, I buffer 
> my power going to any sensitive electronics. I use a battery backup 
> system, an UPS, to buffer the power. If there is a surge, the battery 
> absorbs it. Second, I believe you will ultimately have a problem if you 
> leave your radios connected to you antenna(s). So, I disconnect all of 
> my station from my antennas during periods when lightning is expected. I 
> have learned my lesson from having lost equipment. Since I started with 
> this setup, I have had no problem, and it is far less expensive than a 
> full blown lightning protection system.
> 
>  ??? One last comment: I suggest that an UPS be used just for the surge 
> protection from A/C and other motors on the line. A large motor can 
> throw quite a surge onto the line even with no lightning to add to the 
> voltage. An UPS is really cheap insurance to protect your station, less 
> than $100 to protect a few $1000.
> 
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> 



From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Oct 30 15:50:09 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:50:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>

Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?? A number 
of years ago, our CQP team in Alpine County fried the front end of an 
IC-760 II in a snow storm [precip static].? Then, with an accumulated 
300 or so years of amateur radio experience on the team, we replaced it 
with a spare ... and fried that one too. [:-)? I have a coax Tee with a 
100K resistor in a PL259 on my K3, just wondering if it's necessary.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/29/2018 8:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.
>
> 1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.
>
> Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 ports are the most susceptible.
>
> 2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how lightning finds its way in:
>
>     http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>
> At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, common ground.
>
> 3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>
>      https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>


From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Oct 30 15:57:07 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:57:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <af232dd1-e4b7-3eb0-a22a-ce6b969ab823@foothill.net>

If you're talking about yesterday [Mon], they were completely off the 
air for a couple of hours midday here on the western frontier.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/30/2018 7:25 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
> I worked them. Like you, I heard many ?hounds? and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it?s propagation. Keep calling.
> 73
>


From rmcgraw at blomand.net  Tue Oct 30 15:56:50 2018
From: rmcgraw at blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:56:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <47B42049-FCD3-4BDC-B772-E424D58B486E@blomand.net>

If one used a KAT500, as I do,  it has static bleed resistors on all antenna inputs. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?  A number of years ago, our CQP team in Alpine County fried the front end of an IC-760 II in a snow storm [precip static].  Then, with an accumulated 300 or so years of amateur radio experience on the team, we replaced it with a spare ... and fried that one too. [:-)  I have a coax Tee with a 100K resistor in a PL259 on my K3, just wondering if it's necessary.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
>> On 10/29/2018 8:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.
>> 
>> 1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.
>> 
>> Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 ports are the most susceptible.
>> 
>> 2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how lightning finds its way in:
>> 
>>    http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>> 
>> At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, common ground.
>> 
>> 3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>> 
>>     https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
> 
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From ve3iay at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 16:09:06 2018
From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:09:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
Message-ID: <CAJ-xeHm2qOU5=7DRGmUOq2x=KNigDLXJy06ELXuEdi3QoZJNrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tom, a question for you. He already has a KX3 with IQ outputs. Could he
tune the KX3 to the K3's IF at 8215 kHz, connect it to the K3's IF Out
jack, and use it as the SDR for his spectrum display with the K3?

Thanks for correcting me on the ExtIO business.

73,
Rich VE3KI


Tom wrote:

Your options are as follows:
First you need the IF output from your K3.  Win4K3 does not support an RX
antenna solution on the K3.  However, you can use another spectrum display
product like HDSDR or SDRUno synced with OmniRig to Win4K3.  You would have
to be sure that your SDR device is switched out and grounded during
transmit.

Assuming you have the IF out, only the LPPAN and the SDRPlay devices are
supported in Win4K3.  There is no support for EXT_IO drivers.
Since you already have a sound card for use with your KX3 I would suggest
the LPPAN unit.

From tomb18 at videotron.ca  Tue Oct 30 16:24:31 2018
From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:24:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question
In-Reply-To: <HaM8gRVobqFkNHaMCgwYad@videotron.ca>
References: <HaM8gRVobqFkNHaMCgwYad@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <E51C49748BDE4790B0D7795189C8218E@DESKTOPAV61F2H>

Ha...never thought of that one.
I guess it could.  Zero $.

Of course, one would have to try it.  
73 Tom

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Ferch 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:09 PM 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Win4k3Suite Question 

Tom, a question for you. He already has a KX3 with IQ outputs. Could he
tune the KX3 to the K3's IF at 8215 kHz, connect it to the K3's IF Out
jack, and use it as the SDR for his spectrum display with the K3?

Thanks for correcting me on the ExtIO business.

73,
Rich VE3KI


Tom wrote:

Your options are as follows:
First you need the IF output from your K3.  Win4K3 does not support an RX
antenna solution on the K3.  However, you can use another spectrum display
product like HDSDR or SDRUno synced with OmniRig to Win4K3.  You would have
to be sure that your SDR device is switched out and grounded during
transmit.

Assuming you have the IF out, only the LPPAN and the SDRPlay devices are
supported in Win4K3.  There is no support for EXT_IO drivers.
Since you already have a sound card for use with your KX3 I would suggest
the LPPAN unit.
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From farrerfolks at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 30 16:29:29 2018
From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:29:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
	<4181F527-7E4C-4BEA-8B51-81B105296F18@elecraft.com>
	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
	<24808CBD-91F7-473A-9686-0502F432D9A1@elecraft.com>
	<bd2443c4-bb96-97ca-b8d7-183482b9a241@elecraft.com>
	<F3A713ED-DC49-4145-ADD6-D784A9A645B0@elecraft.com>
	<D5257A95-16F3-47D6-B11A-24ACE5A44DAF@elecraft.com>
	<407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <208942666.394344.1540931369500@mail.yahoo.com>

All this is good info.? Some right on and some just there.? From decades of using wire antennas with 600 ohm ladder line to a switch yard for selection,? I use the old FORD approach.? All ladder lines have back to back old Ford spark plugs in front of all the switching.? The common point on the two plugs goes to the tower ground network. So even when the antenna is not selected the FORD's do their thing.? No failures to date except the the pole Pig on the service pole to the house, it took a direct hit and blew a hole in the side of it.? Needless to say we were then on Generator back for a while.? Forgot to say the spark plugs have 5 w 1 Meg resistor across them to ground.........
Mel, K6KBE

      From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
   
Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?? A number 
of years ago, our CQP team in Alpine County fried the front end of an 
IC-760 II in a snow storm [precip static].? Then, with an accumulated 
300 or so years of amateur radio experience on the team, we replaced it 
with a spare ... and fried that one too. [:-)? I have a coax Tee with a 
100K resistor in a PL259 on my K3, just wondering if it's necessary.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/29/2018 8:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.
>
> 1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.
>
> Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 ports are the most susceptible.
>
> 2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how lightning finds its way in:
>
>? ? http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>
> At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, common ground.
>
> 3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>
>? ? ? https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>

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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Tue Oct 30 16:47:51 2018
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:47:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
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References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
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Spark plugs fire at 12,000 to 25,000 Volts. Some require as much as 45,000 V. I?d recommend something in addition to spark plugs. Gas discharge tubes have a turn-on voltage of 150 V to 2000 V, depending on the model.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> All this is good info.  Some right on and some just there.  From decades of using wire antennas with 600 ohm ladder line to a switch yard for selection,  I use the old FORD approach.  All ladder lines have back to back old Ford spark plugs in front of all the switching.  The common point on the two plugs goes to the tower ground network. So even when the antenna is not selected the FORD's do their thing.  No failures to date except the the pole Pig on the service pole to the house, it took a direct hit and blew a hole in the side of it.  Needless to say we were then on Generator back for a while.  Forgot to say the spark plugs have 5 w 1 Meg resistor across them to ground.........
> Mel, K6KBE
> 
>      From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
> 
> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?  A number 
> of years ago, our CQP team in Alpine County fried the front end of an 
> IC-760 II in a snow storm [precip static].  Then, with an accumulated 
> 300 or so years of amateur radio experience on the team, we replaced it 
> with a spare ... and fried that one too. [:-)  I have a coax Tee with a 
> 100K resistor in a PL259 on my K3, just wondering if it's necessary.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 10/29/2018 8:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.
>> 
>> 1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.
>> 
>> Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 ports are the most susceptible.
>> 
>> 2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how lightning finds its way in:
>> 
>>     http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>> 
>> At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, common ground.
>> 
>> 3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>> 
>>       https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
> 
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From neilz at techie.com  Tue Oct 30 16:48:01 2018
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:48:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
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FWIW ... K1JT in the FT8 DXPedition mode user guide specifically says, 
if you can't hear the DXPedition station, don't call them.

Item #7 for hounds says:
"Please do not call Fox if you are not receiving his transmissions. Do 
not call Fox if he issues a directed CQ (?CQ EU?, ?CQ 7?, ?) and your 
continent or numerical call area does not match the requested one. 
Calling out of turn only creates QRM, and will certainly not get you a QSO."

The FOX should always transmit between 300 & 600 hz. if they're 
following the User Guide properly.?? Watching VP6D in action, they are 
doing exactly that.????? I would also visit this webpage:? 
http://www.dxa3.org/vp6d/? which will list the frequencies they're using.

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 10/30/2018 10:25 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
> I worked them. Like you, I heard many ?hounds? and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it?s propagation. Keep calling.
> 73
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <clark.macaulay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
>> transmissions of those calling VP6D.
>>
>> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before.  Current
>> version: 1.9.1.  Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are
>> calling.  Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several
>> WSJT-X resources.  Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38.  Rx All
>> Freqs checked.
>>
>> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D?  Is it my
>> modest antenna?  Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed?
>> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message.  Many are
>> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO.
>>
>> Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
>>
> Carl Yaffey  K8NU
> Recording studio.
> cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com
> 614 268 6353, Columbus OH
> http://www.carl-yaffey.com
> http://www.grassahol.com
> http://www.bluesswing.com
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From neilz at techie.com  Tue Oct 30 16:55:19 2018
From: neilz at techie.com (Neil Zampella)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:55:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<75706627-180B-4259-93AE-56799C0FB923@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <017e5f07-02c6-7379-658d-d06bde632285@techie.com>

Considering that Joe Taylor has specifically said that v2.0-RC3 will 
default to 77 bit messages in DXPedition mode and should not be used for 
any DXPeditions until after the final General Availability release; and 
VP6D on the website's FT8 operating procedure page asks that v1.9.1 be 
used SPECIFICALLY,?? I'd just download v1.9.1 and install it into a 
different directory.

You can have both versions on the same computer, they will use the same 
log files, .ini, etc.

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 10/30/2018 11:22 AM, Don Butler wrote:
> Same intermittent problem here.   I finally found that the ?Decode only 77 bit messages? box seems to be checked by default when you go to fox/hound mode in WSJT-X V 2.0.0 RC3 ? when it is ?unchecked? VP6D?s transmissions will suddenly be decoded ?. BUT that unchecked box cannot be saved ? the next time you launch and go in fox hound mode the box seems to be checked again by default ?. So when decoding of VP6D transmissions seems to stop ? go to advanced settings and uncheck that box and the messages will reappear ?  it is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed in the software ?. And apparently something different that VP6D seems to be doing with its transmitted messages ???
>
> Don, N5LZ
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Carl Yaffey
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:27 AM
> To: engineercm
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
>
> I worked them. Like you, I heard many ?hounds? and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it?s propagation. Keep calling.
> 73
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <clark.macaulay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
>> transmissions of those calling VP6D.
>>
>> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before.  Current
>> version: 1.9.1.  Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are
>> calling.  Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several
>> WSJT-X resources.  Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38.  Rx All
>> Freqs checked.
>>
>> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D?  Is it my
>> modest antenna?  Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed?
>> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message.  Many are
>> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO.
>>
>> Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
>>
> Carl Yaffey  K8NU
> Recording studio.
> cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com
> 614 268 6353, Columbus OH
> http://www.carl-yaffey.com
> http://www.grassahol.com
> http://www.bluesswing.com
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct 30 17:06:49 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:06:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>
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	<9f543813-5417-8731-cef8-3dab5d42bf7f@elecraft.com>
	<082c8be7-9355-4621-8d82-c8ee3e958a34@elecraft.com>
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> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?

Yes.

Wayne
N6KR


>  A number of years ago, our CQP team in Alpine County fried the front end of an IC-760 II in a snow storm [precip static].  Then, with an accumulated 300 or so years of amateur radio experience on the team, we replaced it with a spare ... and fried that one too. [:-)  I have a coax Tee with a 100K resistor in a PL259 on my K3, just wondering if it's necessary.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 10/29/2018 8:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Every year, especially in summer, our techs see radios come in that have been damaged by lightning, despite the radio's protective circuitry. You can take steps to reduce your own risk.
>> 
>> 1. Many of us remember to disconnect antennas when lightning is anticipated. But in our experience, the most common source of damage, by far, is from an attached computer. Computers themselves often fail due to lightning strikes. They can also act as conduits for surges to other gear. Just to emphasize this point: Customers often say "I disconnected everything but the USB cable to the computer...," which left the interface to their radio exposed.
>> 
>> Note: Only in rare cases have we seen surge damage via other I/O ports (accessory jack, paddle/keyer jacks, PTT IN, KEY OUT, and DC). USB and RS232 ports are the most susceptible.
>> 
>> 2. Some stations have an ad-hoc ground system and little or no ESD or surge protection. If you haven't already taken protective measures, we strongly recommend reading this article, which goes into some detail regarding how lightning finds its way in:
>> 
>>    http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST/This%20Month%20in%20QST/June2017/Chusid-Morgan.pdf
>> 
>> At the very least, be sure your PC and other gear share a short, heavy, common ground.
>> 
>> 3. As for protecting your PC, here's a good starting point:
>> 
>>     https://www.wikihow.com/Protect-a-PC-in-a-Thunderstorm
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
> 
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From rv6amark at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 30 17:32:10 2018
From: rv6amark at yahoo.com (rv6amark)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:32:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
Message-ID: <mailman.144.1540935143.2966.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Re:? "Spark plugs fire at 12,000 to 25,000 Volts. Some require as much as 45,000 V."

That is at the pressure inside the combustion chamber.? At atmospheric? pressure, they fire at much lower voltages; however, Walter's point is still valid.? Turn on voltage is far more reliable with gas discharge tubes.? Sparkplugs were probably more helpful? with tube gear than with today's solid state gear.

Mark
KE6BB


null

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Oct 30 18:19:45 2018
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:19:45 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
In-Reply-To: <d4932237-d870-2957-9fc3-8484aea640ea@embarqmail.com>
References: <1540908000688-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1540927195924-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<d4932237-d870-2957-9fc3-8484aea640ea@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb78f9ef-27cd-a7c0-feb4-a2b88879d402@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On 10/30/2018 12:30 PM, Andy Yates wrote:
> Follow their directions here: 
> https://vp6d.com/index.php/dxpedition/ft8-operating-guidelines

The executive summary -- Use WSJT-X version 1.9, NOT 2.0 betas. They are 
working DXpedition mode on all bands EXCEPT 160M. To enter DXpedition 
mode, go to Settings, Advanced, and check the box for Hound. And RTFM.

Then when you are copying them well, call them ABOVE 1,000 Hz. Also, go 
to their website VP6D.com to find their FT8 frequencies.

73, Jim K9YC


From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com  Tue Oct 30 19:04:46 2018
From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:04:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <eedfa84d-5c26-4261-94fa-444d7921ee6b@blomand.net>
References: <d79b2d71-2d9f-cd46-949f-071f97cbcef0@elecraft.com>,
	<5BD88410.14940.1847D2B8@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>,
	<eedfa84d-5c26-4261-94fa-444d7921ee6b@blomand.net>
Message-ID: <5BD8E38E.24214.19BCD649@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>

Yes my grounding system is NEC compliant. And yes my insurance company is 
happy. Their last inspection they asked that I replace 5 or 6 boards on the Deck. 
>From a 29 years ago memory I think I had around 2K total plus sweat equity 
installing the commercial type ground system. That 2K is small potatoes 
compared to what equipment it is protecting. The whole house is protected from 
all other points of entry as well as the towers. Power Lines, CATV lines, Phone 
Lines, Small Dish TV lines and anything else that comes to our homes. Then if 
one adds up a simple Ham Shack with radio computer monitor TV sets 
throughout the house Microwave ovens Stoves Washing machines all the other 
stuff we have in today's homes. If you don't want to be replacing the stuff possibly 
all of it then all of us should have home protection. Either do it properly depending 
on your sytem or suffer the wrath of Mother Nature.
73
John k9uwa


> Agreed.?? And your grounding system alone certainly cost several 
> thousand dollars more than most ham stations.
> 
> I will also add, if your ground system, implementation and methods do 
> not comply with NEC, in the event of any loss, your insurance company 
> can simply say "it has been nice doing business with you.? Your coverage 
> is hear by CANCELED".
> 
> Although living? TN, my QTH is 500 ft above average terrain out to 35 
> miles.?? I understand living on a hill, grounding and lightning.? Do it
> correct to minimize damage.? Do it wrong or incomplete and expect to encounter
> a loss, up to and even the house, and hopefully no loss of life.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> On 10/30/2018 11:17 AM, John K9UWA wrote:
> > In the fall of 1988 I installed a 160 foot tower. I already had a 120 foot
> > tower and an 88 foot tower In the spring of 1989 the tall tower was hit by a
> > direct hit and it was about 10K to repair all the damage. My homeowners
> > insurance company was not at all impressed. I was given Assigned Risk
 
BIG SNIP

> >
> > 73
> > John k9uwa
John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
k9uwa at arrl.net
Visit our Web Site at:
http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
4836 Ranch Road
Leo, IN 46765
USA
1-260-637-6426


From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Oct 30 19:18:28 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:18:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <20181030213327.A5F9D149B153@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20181030213327.A5F9D149B153@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <9a21d281-795a-fc07-2933-78635cb3bd45@foothill.net>

Open wire feedlines used to have "spark balls" for lightning protection 
on high power transmitter installations. Admittedly, the transmitters 
used tubes.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/30/2018 2:32 PM, rv6amark via Elecraft wrote:
> Re:? "Spark plugs fire at 12,000 to 25,000 Volts. Some require as much as 45,000 V."
>
> That is at the pressure inside the combustion chamber.? At atmospheric? pressure, they fire at much lower voltages; however, Walter's point is still valid.? Turn on voltage is far more reliable with gas discharge tubes.? Sparkplugs were probably more helpful? with tube gear than with today's solid state gear.
>
> Mark
> KE6BB
>
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Oct 30 20:35:43 2018
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:35:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need a couple of testimonials for our new home page
Message-ID: <A9591B6C-C794-41B9-8B6E-A71ED13C5FEA@elecraft.com>

One of the features of our new website is a rotating series of customer testimonials (at the bottom of the home page). We'd like to upload a couple of fresh quotes here rather than use the ones from our old site.

If you'd like to contribute a short sentence or two about your favorite Elecraft product, please email me directly. I can't guarantee all quotes will appear on the home page right away, but I do know they'll make our day :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Tue Oct 30 21:40:27 2018
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (hawley, charles j jr)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 01:40:27 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Testimonials
Message-ID: <2EF54539-1030-40BB-AF67-2D0D80949041@illinois.edu>

I?ve had two warranty repairs which were each a couple months after receiving the Elecraft product and in both cases was shipped the replacement module before returning the module with the issue. No down time on two products and out of dozens of Elecraft products purchased which never had any issues.

Chuck
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Wed Oct 31 01:45:00 2018
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:45:00 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <9a21d281-795a-fc07-2933-78635cb3bd45@foothill.net>
References: <20181030213327.A5F9D149B153@mailman.qth.net>
	<9a21d281-795a-fc07-2933-78635cb3bd45@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <63DCD853-5A78-4A39-9DC7-0937205B8098@gmail.com>

I have homemade adjustable spark gaps on my open wire line. It?s important to realize that voltages from normal operation on open wire lines can be quite high. My installation is atypical since I run a very high SWR on some bands, but the TLW program calculates as much as 7kv at the entrance to my shack on 40 meters! I saw some serious arcs before I got everything sized properly. I got a couple of 10 meg 10kv resistors from Mouser to use as static drains.

Victor 4X6GP 

> On 31 Oct 2018, at 1:18, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Open wire feedlines used to have "spark balls" for lightning protection on high power transmitter installations. Admittedly, the transmitters used tubes.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
>> On 10/30/2018 2:32 PM, rv6amark via Elecraft wrote:
>> Re:  "Spark plugs fire at 12,000 to 25,000 Volts. Some require as much as 45,000 V."
>> 
>> That is at the pressure inside the combustion chamber.  At atmospheric  pressure, they fire at much lower voltages; however, Walter's point is still valid.  Turn on voltage is far more reliable with gas discharge tubes.  Sparkplugs were probably more helpful  with tube gear than with today's solid state gear.
>> 
>> Mark
>> KE6BB
>> 
>> 
>> null
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From voerman at att.net  Wed Oct 31 08:27:49 2018
From: voerman at att.net (Lou Voerman W2ROW)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 05:27:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Extra Spring?
Message-ID: <1540988869767-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

I just received a new KXPD2 paddle from Elecraft. In the envelope was a
loose, extra spring with no documentation as to its purpose. Does anyone
know if the extra spring is the same as the original or is it some kind of
tension adjustment like the three different springs that came with the
KXPD3?

Also there are now two allen screws per paddle one to set the adjustment and
one to lock it in. All the documentation I could find showed only the one
adjustment screw per paddle.

I did email Elecraft support about the spring but no answer yet.

Thanks,
Lou   W2ROW





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From ws6x.ars at gmail.com  Wed Oct 31 09:39:55 2018
From: ws6x.ars at gmail.com (Jim - WS6X)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:39:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] US Navigator Interface Cable for K3
Message-ID: <000601d4711f$380bf6a0$a823e3e0$@gmail.com>

G'day,
Anyone on this list interested in a US Navigator cable set for the K3?
Includes the optional cable for controlling the KPA500. Please contact me
off list.
Thanks - Jim, WS6X


From k4qs1 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 31 13:15:36 2018
From: k4qs1 at yahoo.com (Chuck Stover)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 17:15:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500-F Available
References: <1882623453.19986695.1541006137007.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1882623453.19986695.1541006137007@mail.yahoo.com>

Earlier this year I upgraded from the KPA500/KAT500 combo to a KPA1500.? The KPA500 was sold to a local that already had a KAT500.? As a result my KAT500-F has been orphaned.
If anyone is interested contact me off list.? My QRZ.com info is good.
Pictures available.
73,? Chuck K4QS

From billamader at gmail.com  Wed Oct 31 14:07:55 2018
From: billamader at gmail.com (K8TE)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:07:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <9a21d281-795a-fc07-2933-78635cb3bd45@foothill.net>
References: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<9a21d281-795a-fc07-2933-78635cb3bd45@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <1541009275717-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

With 26 years experience in USAF communications and even more in commercial
broadcasting, I disconnect all wire inputs to my station's components when
the threat of thunderstorms arises.  If planned well, this is easy to
accomplish.  I have made significant money repairing commercial broadcast
transmitters which were installed properly but still suffered damage during
direct hits to their antennas.  That damage was very rare, but still
occurred.

I disconnect my DSL router's wall wart and phone line inputs along with
antenna, rotator control, and other cables that enter through the single
point protected/bonded/grounded panel.  That has worked every time!  If
lightning comes within ten miles, I disconnect.  If away from home, all my
valuable electronics are disconnected.  I do the same for snow storms which
with blowing wind also generate significant static electricity.

Why take the chance?  If I were to run a remote system, like my race car, I
would be ready to walk away from either in spite of taking appropriate
preventive measures and accept the loss.

73, Bill, K8TE



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From ab2tc at arrl.net  Wed Oct 31 18:10:47 2018
From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:10:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <B1B7C2AF-B797-411D-89BB-87DB2F68E833@elecraft.com>
References: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
	<B1B7C2AF-B797-411D-89BB-87DB2F68E833@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1541023847617-0.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

It's a dead short circuit for DC and low frequencies thanks to the SWR
bridge (it has a voltage transformer directly across the antenna terminals).
There seems to be different opinions on what is meant by "static". To me it
means a slowly varying DC voltage caused by static buildup in the clouds
during or before thunderstorms. The K3(S) is perfectly protected against
these. Some people include the transients that are caused by actual
lightning strikes nearby in the definition of "static". The K3(S) is not
protected against these as they have very strong high frequency content. For
these extra protection is needed as discussed several places in this thread.
I have a number of Alpha-Delta switches in my antenna system and they have
gas discharge tubes, but frankly I have no idea how effective they are.

AB2TC - Knut


wayne burdick wrote
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Fred Jensen &lt;

> k6dgw@

> &gt; wrote:
>> 
>> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> <snip>





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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Wed Oct 31 18:42:11 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:42:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <1541023847617-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
	<B1B7C2AF-B797-411D-89BB-87DB2F68E833@elecraft.com>
	<1541023847617-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <abcbaef6-a064-604e-1d67-aaf7b79bdad9@foothill.net>

Hmmm ... There seem to be different flavors of static.? My reference was 
to what is often called "precipitation static" [rain, snow, maybe hail]? 
and which can sometimes also be caused by wind blowing sand/dust past 
the antenna.? It sounds like bacon frying in the receiver.? Each drop or 
snowflake acquires a minuscule charge falling or blowing which 
discharges into the antenna on contact.? The typical semiconductor 
devices in radio front ends these days exhibit a nearly infinite 
impedance to "ground" and a tiny capacitance.? The constant little 
pulses from the static charge that capacitance with essentially no 
discharge path.? That's what fried the 1st 760 II and then, predictably, 
the second one.

There is also the combined "static" caused by distant thunderstorms.

INT QRN: "Are you troubled by static"
QRN: "I am troubled by static"

which is different than "static" caused by corona or leakage on a high 
voltage power transmission line.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

PS:? For those about to tell me "nearly infinite" is a meaningless term, 
save the BW.? I know, I hold a math degree.? Just using a little 
editorial license.

On 10/31/2018 3:10 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It's a dead short circuit for DC and low frequencies thanks to the SWR
> bridge (it has a voltage transformer directly across the antenna terminals).
> There seems to be different opinions on what is meant by "static". To me it
> means a slowly varying DC voltage caused by static buildup in the clouds
> during or before thunderstorms. The K3(S) is perfectly protected against
> these. Some people include the transients that are caused by actual
> lightning strikes nearby in the definition of "static". The K3(S) is not
> protected against these as they have very strong high frequency content. For
> these extra protection is needed as discussed several places in this thread.
> I have a number of Alpha-Delta switches in my antenna system and they have
> gas discharge tubes, but frankly I have no idea how effective they are.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> wayne burdick wrote
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Fred Jensen &lt;
>> k6dgw@
>> &gt; wrote:
>>> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?
>> Yes.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> <snip>
>
>
>
>
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From fcady at montana.edu  Wed Oct 31 18:47:54 2018
From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:47:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X print books 20% discount
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB39735A6A89CB2ADB855FB39AAFCD0@BYAPR02MB3973.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

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From elecraftcovers at gmail.com  Wed Oct 31 19:13:08 2018
From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 17:13:08 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Dry air static
Message-ID: <CAK+fsRWGPStk04mk8TWxpCaVzUv5nbnxtbBBcF2mMs5o=x4y_g@mail.gmail.com>

Fred,

I recall the output capacitor of the pi-net capacitor in my HT-17
rythmatically snapping in response to the charged particles of dust in the
dry Oklahoma air
building up on the long wire antenna. (;-)

73 !

K0PP
kengkopp at gmail.com

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 16:42 Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net wrote:

> Hmmm ... There seem to be different flavors of static.  My reference was
> to what is often called "precipitation static" [rain, snow, maybe hail]
> and which can sometimes also be caused by wind blowing sand/dust past
> the antenna.  It sounds like bacon frying in the receiver.  Each drop or
> snowflake acquires a minuscule charge falling or blowing which
> discharges into the antenna on contact.  The typical semiconductor
> devices in radio front ends these days exhibit a nearly infinite
> impedance to "ground" and a tiny capacitance.  The constant little
> pulses from the static charge that capacitance with essentially no
> discharge path.  That's what fried the 1st 760 II and then, predictably,
> the second one.
>
> There is also the combined "static" caused by distant thunderstorms.
>
> INT QRN: "Are you troubled by static"
> QRN: "I am troubled by static"
>
> which is different than "static" caused by corona or leakage on a high
> voltage power transmission line.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> PS:  For those about to tell me "nearly infinite" is a meaningless term,
> save the BW.  I know, I hold a math degree.  Just using a little
> editorial license.
>
> On 10/31/2018 3:10 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's a dead short circuit for DC and low frequencies thanks to the SWR
> > bridge (it has a voltage transformer directly across the antenna
> terminals).
> > There seems to be different opinions on what is meant by "static". To me
> it
> > means a slowly varying DC voltage caused by static buildup in the clouds
> > during or before thunderstorms. The K3(S) is perfectly protected against
> > these. Some people include the transients that are caused by actual
> > lightning strikes nearby in the definition of "static". The K3(S) is not
> > protected against these as they have very strong high frequency content.
> For
> > these extra protection is needed as discussed several places in this
> thread.
> > I have a number of Alpha-Delta switches in my antenna system and they
> have
> > gas discharge tubes, but frankly I have no idea how effective they are.
> >
> > AB2TC - Knut
> >
> >
> > wayne burdick wrote
> >>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Fred Jensen &lt;
> >> k6dgw@
> >> &gt; wrote:
> >>> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >> <snip>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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From donwilh at embarqmail.com  Wed Oct 31 19:14:53 2018
From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:14:53 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <abcbaef6-a064-604e-1d67-aaf7b79bdad9@foothill.net>
References: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
	<B1B7C2AF-B797-411D-89BB-87DB2F68E833@elecraft.com>
	<1541023847617-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<abcbaef6-a064-604e-1d67-aaf7b79bdad9@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <13544655-6be5-5ad9-fb19-9e6a7e5e8d4c@embarqmail.com>

Skip,

Yes, there are various causes of static on the feedline, but static is 
static.  It is a voltage charge on the feedline and it can damage equipment.
The source may be wind blowing on your antenna, rain or snow that 
carries charged particles, or nearby lightning.  No matter what the 
cause, it can produce a significant voltage across your feedline.  It 
does not take a direct lightning hit to produce damaging voltages on 
your antenna feedline.  A direct hit can cause damage to house and home 
and any equipment in that home, but there are other times when the 
accumulated static voltage on any feedline can cause damage to your ham 
equipment.

I recall an event many years ago when I got that lesson.  I had several 
antennas in the basement shack unterminated and just waiting to be 
connected.  The wind was blowing and I thought nothing of it until I 
picked up an open feedline and placed it near my Heathkit HW101 
intending to connect it - sparks flew as the coax got close to the 
chassis!  That was a warning to me - disconnect and ground all my 
feedlines when not in use.  If not grounded, at least a bleed resistor 
across the feedlines to discharge any built up static.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2018 6:42 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> Hmmm ... There seem to be different flavors of static.? My reference was 
> to what is often called "precipitation static" [rain, snow, maybe hail] 
> and which can sometimes also be caused by wind blowing sand/dust past 
> the antenna.? It sounds like bacon frying in the receiver.? Each drop or 
> snowflake acquires a minuscule charge falling or blowing which 
> discharges into the antenna on contact.? The typical semiconductor 
> devices in radio front ends these days exhibit a nearly infinite 
> impedance to "ground" and a tiny capacitance.? The constant little 
> pulses from the static charge that capacitance with essentially no 
> discharge path.? That's what fried the 1st 760 II and then, predictably, 
> the second one.
> 
> There is also the combined "static" caused by distant thunderstorms.
> 
> INT QRN: "Are you troubled by static"
> QRN: "I am troubled by static"
> 
> which is different than "static" caused by corona or leakage on a high 
> voltage power transmission line.

From flesnick at tbaytel.net  Wed Oct 31 19:24:26 2018
From: flesnick at tbaytel.net (Fred VE3FAL)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:24:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Dry air static
In-Reply-To: <CAK+fsRWGPStk04mk8TWxpCaVzUv5nbnxtbBBcF2mMs5o=x4y_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK+fsRWGPStk04mk8TWxpCaVzUv5nbnxtbBBcF2mMs5o=x4y_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CE1E80E6-364C-4D06-9644-32FD13DDDA81@tbaytel.net>

Snow static as well during blizzards do wonders to light up a neon bulb. I used to put one between my long-wire and ground, even wind when it would get a good swing would do the same thing

Fred
VE3FAL

Sent from my iPhone
Fred VE3FAL/CIW649


> On Oct 31, 2018, at 19:13, Rose <elecraftcovers at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fred,
> 
> I recall the output capacitor of the pi-net capacitor in my HT-17
> rythmatically snapping in response to the charged particles of dust in the
> dry Oklahoma air
> building up on the long wire antenna. (;-)
> 
> 73 !
> 
> K0PP
> kengkopp at gmail.com
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 16:42 Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm ... There seem to be different flavors of static.  My reference was
>> to what is often called "precipitation static" [rain, snow, maybe hail]
>> and which can sometimes also be caused by wind blowing sand/dust past
>> the antenna.  It sounds like bacon frying in the receiver.  Each drop or
>> snowflake acquires a minuscule charge falling or blowing which
>> discharges into the antenna on contact.  The typical semiconductor
>> devices in radio front ends these days exhibit a nearly infinite
>> impedance to "ground" and a tiny capacitance.  The constant little
>> pulses from the static charge that capacitance with essentially no
>> discharge path.  That's what fried the 1st 760 II and then, predictably,
>> the second one.
>> 
>> There is also the combined "static" caused by distant thunderstorms.
>> 
>> INT QRN: "Are you troubled by static"
>> QRN: "I am troubled by static"
>> 
>> which is different than "static" caused by corona or leakage on a high
>> voltage power transmission line.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> PS:  For those about to tell me "nearly infinite" is a meaningless term,
>> save the BW.  I know, I hold a math degree.  Just using a little
>> editorial license.
>> 
>>> On 10/31/2018 3:10 PM, ab2tc wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It's a dead short circuit for DC and low frequencies thanks to the SWR
>>> bridge (it has a voltage transformer directly across the antenna
>> terminals).
>>> There seems to be different opinions on what is meant by "static". To me
>> it
>>> means a slowly varying DC voltage caused by static buildup in the clouds
>>> during or before thunderstorms. The K3(S) is perfectly protected against
>>> these. Some people include the transients that are caused by actual
>>> lightning strikes nearby in the definition of "static". The K3(S) is not
>>> protected against these as they have very strong high frequency content.
>> For
>>> these extra protection is needed as discussed several places in this
>> thread.
>>> I have a number of Alpha-Delta switches in my antenna system and they
>> have
>>> gas discharge tubes, but frankly I have no idea how effective they are.
>>> 
>>> AB2TC - Knut
>>> 
>>> 
>>> wayne burdick wrote
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Fred Jensen &lt;
>>>> k6dgw@
>>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>>> Does my K3 have a static bleed across the antenna terminal(s)?
>>>> Yes.
>>>> 
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/
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>> 
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Wed Oct 31 19:41:34 2018
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 16:41:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Avoiding costly lightning damage to your radios gear
In-Reply-To: <13544655-6be5-5ad9-fb19-9e6a7e5e8d4c@embarqmail.com>
References: <407E0D7C-D1BA-43F7-976B-B93E696D2CB9@elecraft.com>
	<d36309bf-1d6c-614b-2096-4c51d099aa80@foothill.net>
	<B1B7C2AF-B797-411D-89BB-87DB2F68E833@elecraft.com>
	<1541023847617-0.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<abcbaef6-a064-604e-1d67-aaf7b79bdad9@foothill.net>
	<13544655-6be5-5ad9-fb19-9e6a7e5e8d4c@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a89550b-5958-7e81-07c7-87514ca2018a@foothill.net>

Yep, all true.? The somewhat insidious thing about precip static is that 
it can be totally innocuous, unlike T-storms, lightning strikes, and the 
like.? We hadn't even noted that it had begun snowing, fairly hard, 
outside the tent, when the first rx quit.? The "frying bacon" and the 
tiny little "grass" on the baseline of the panadapter should have been a 
clue to "look outside" to a bunch of OF's with that much accumulated 
experience ... sadly it wasn't.? OTOH, QRN from multiple distant 
T-storms is just that ... annoying noise in the receiver with no danger. 
Likewise with power line hash.? Of all the forms of QRN, and excluding a 
lightning strike [which is hard to ignore], precip static can be the 
most dangerous to equipment and go unrecognized by new folk [and a 
handful of OT's].

In this age with a dearth of Elmers standing next to you, that function 
seems to have migrated to email lists like this one, various fora, and 
various wiki's.? I don't think they can replace W6RMK, with my latest 
electronic creation [usually a TX] on his bench, explaining how the grid 
of the PA rectifies some of the RF waveform and charges a capacitor that 
slowly leaks off through an appropriately named "grid leak" resistor. [:-)

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/31/2018 4:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Skip,
>
> Yes, there are various causes of static on the feedline, but static is 
> static.? It is a voltage charge on the feedline and it can damage 
> equipment.
> The source may be wind blowing on your antenna, rain or snow that 
> carries charged particles, or nearby lightning.? No matter what the 
> cause, it can produce a significant voltage across your feedline.? It 
> does not take a direct lightning hit to produce damaging voltages on 
> your antenna feedline.? A direct hit can cause damage to house and 
> home and any equipment in that home, but there are other times when 
> the accumulated static voltage on any feedline can cause damage to 
> your ham equipment.
>
> I recall an event many years ago when I got that lesson.? I had 
> several antennas in the basement shack unterminated and just waiting 
> to be connected.? The wind was blowing and I thought nothing of it 
> until I picked up an open feedline and placed it near my Heathkit 
> HW101 intending to connect it - sparks flew as the coax got close to 
> the chassis!? That was a warning to me - disconnect and ground all my 
> feedlines when not in use.? If not grounded, at least a bleed resistor 
> across the feedlines to discharge any built up static.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>


From kengkopp at gmail.com  Wed Oct 31 19:43:24 2018
From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 17:43:24 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Additional on antenna charge ...
Message-ID: <CAD4CdTNchTw80XmCJw5vLEgs7Q+QUpgj-tttyCf_7-NmadVBpA@mail.gmail.com>

My open wire fed 1/2 wave 80M Zepp has an RF choke from each feeder leg to
the station ground.

Hint: Flashing copper sheared from the long side of a 4 x 8 foot sheet at
your local metal supply in 1 or 2 inch widths is ideal for equipment
grounding.  Use 1/4 - 20 brass hardware with wing-nuts for connecting flat
braid runs to equipment.

73 !

K0PP

From lenecee at ca.rr.com  Wed Oct 31 21:03:22 2018
From: lenecee at ca.rr.com (Len)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB cable required
Message-ID: <EFE1DEBB-9C33-4E8F-8721-9EAB9F15975A@ca.rr.com>

Hello Elecrafter?s.  Do any of you have a spare KUSB cable that they would like to sell me?  I have gone through all my accessory drawers, behind my desk, and equipment boxes.  I cannot program any of my K-line without it!  Tnx and best 73.  Len

From w6jhb at me.com  Wed Oct 31 21:13:46 2018
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 18:13:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 vs KAT3 High SWR Ability
Message-ID: <9C7A8C9F-1A07-490B-892A-5CFFC6A608CE@me.com>

Recently assembled a KPA500 / KAT500 pair and hooked ?em up to my 2010 K3. I?m wondering what the capability of the KAT500 is versus that KAT3 internal K3 tuner, as far as what each will match. 

I ask this because the KAT500 does a horrible job on 17 meter. The best if can do is about 2.3:1, whereas the K3 internal tuner has no difficulty getting a 1.0:1 match on the same antenna.

The antenna I use is an 88 foot long doublet 45 feet high. It is fed with about 110 feet of 600-ohm ladder line. At the shack end is a Balun Designs 4:1 balun, and from there to the back of the KAT500 is about ten feet of Belden 9913.

Is the KAT500 less capable of matching ugly SWR levels than the KAT3?

Jim / W6JHB

From w4das at comcast.net  Wed Oct 31 23:15:00 2018
From: w4das at comcast.net (Doug Shields)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 23:15:00 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Brand new KRC2ACC
Message-ID: <00ff01d47191$1384e4a0$3a8eade0$@net>

Hello everyone,

     I have a freshly built KRC2 band decoder for sale.  It was just
completed and tests out fine.  It includes the Accessibility Upgrade that
announces functions in Morse code.  It will come in the original Elecraft
box, with original manuals, power cord,  and everything received with the
kit.  It is of course in excellent condition having only check out time
since completion.  $110.00 shipped to any US destination.

 

Doug  W4DAS



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