[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 170, Issue 28
Ed gilliland
w5tm001 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 16 18:19:34 EDT 2018
Art,
I'm using two K3-to-KPA1500 cables back-to-back, no problems.
Ed W5TM
On 6/16/2018 13:40, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
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> 1. Re: KAT500 maual tuning? (ANDY DURBIN)
> 2. KPA1500 connecting cable to K3 (Art)
> 3. Re: KAT500 maual tuning? (ANDY DURBIN)
> 4. Re: KAT500 maual tuning? (Gordon LaPoint)
> 5. Re: KPA1500 connecting cable to K3 (Don Wilhelm)
> 6. Re: K2 Build: Requesting Tips and Tricks (Neil Zampella)
> 7. Deleting OT (Thomas Schaefer)
> 8. Re: Deleting OT (Grant Youngman)
> 9. Re: Deleting OT (Thomas Schaefer)
> 10. New release of Win4K3Suite (Tom)
> 11. Re: Deleting OT (Don Wilhelm)
> 12. Re: Deleting Off topic email (Thomas Schaefer)
> 13. Re: K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot (Dan Maase)
> 14. ATU Manual settings - KPA1500 (Paul Baldock)
> 15. Re: Deleting OT (Walter Underwood)
> 16. Re: Deleting OT (Jim Brown)
> 17. Re: K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot (Jim Brown)
> 18. Re: Deleting OT (John Hiatt)
> 19. Re: Deleting OT (Ronald Genovesi)
> 20. Re: Deleting OT (Bert Craig)
> 21. Re: Deleting OT (EricJ)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:17:17 +0000
> From: ANDY DURBIN <a.durbin at msn.com>
> To: Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
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> Thanks!
>
>
> Maybe Elecraft would fix the link to the KAT500 utility. This link - http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe
>
> returns "The requested URL /KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe was not found on this server."
>
>
> 73,
>
> Andy k3wyc
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:12 AM
> To: ANDY DURBIN
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
>
> Yes, the KAT500 Utility provides this function.
>
> Michael Blake
> k9jri at mac.com<mailto:k9jri at icloud.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, ANDY DURBIN <a.durbin at msn.com<mailto:a.durbin at msn.com>> wrote:
>
> Can the KAT500 L and C values be manually incremented and decremented? There appear to be no controls on the front panel to allow this and I was unable to download the KAT500 utility to see if manual control is supported there.
>
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Andy, k3wyc
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:24:33 -0400
> From: Art <kz5d at aol.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 connecting cable to K3
> Message-ID: <16408fbbf69-c8d-17013 at webjas-vae103.srv.aolmail.net>
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> Is there any provision for extending the standard Elecraft cable that is only about 3 ft to accommodate placement of the 1500 a little further away?
>
>
> 6 or 7 ft. would be ideal in my situation.
>
>
> 73,
>
>
> Art KZ5D
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:28:39 +0000
> From: ANDY DURBIN <a.durbin at msn.com>
> To: "dick at elecraft.com" <dick at elecraft.com>, 'Michael Blake'
> <k9jri at mac.com>
> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
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> Thanks!
>
>
> My search for KAT500 utility took me to http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm.old and I did not notice the "old"!
>
>
> 73,
>
> Andy k3wyc
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: dick at elecraft.com <dick at elecraft.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:21 AM
> To: 'ANDY DURBIN'; 'Michael Blake'
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
>
> Try the link to version 1.16.7.25 at the bottom of
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm
>
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of ANDY DURBIN
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 07:17
> To: Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Maybe Elecraft would fix the link to the KAT500 utility. This link -
> http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe
>
> returns "The requested URL /KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe was
> not found on this server."
>
>
> 73,
>
> Andy k3wyc
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:12 AM
> To: ANDY DURBIN
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
>
> Yes, the KAT500 Utility provides this function.
>
> Michael Blake
> k9jri at mac.com<mailto:k9jri at icloud.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, ANDY DURBIN
> <a.durbin at msn.com<mailto:a.durbin at msn.com>> wrote:
>
> Can the KAT500 L and C values be manually incremented and decremented?
> There appear to be no controls on the front panel to allow this and I was
> unable to download the KAT500 utility to see if manual control is supported
> there.
>
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Andy, k3wyc
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:31:29 -0400
> From: Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapoint at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
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> That appears to be the wrong link. The proper file is found at:
> http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm#utility
> then click on the *KAT500 Utility (Windows Version 1.16.7.25)
> <http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_16_7_25.exe>**July
> 25, 2016 link.
> *This is for the windows version.? The link you are trying is for an
> older version.
>
> Gordon - N1MGO
> **
>
> On 6/16/2018 10:17 AM, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Maybe Elecraft would fix the link to the KAT500 utility. This link - http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe
>>
>> returns "The requested URL /KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe was not found on this server."
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Andy k3wyc
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Michael Blake <k9jri at mac.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:12 AM
>> To: ANDY DURBIN
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
>>
>> Yes, the KAT500 Utility provides this function.
>>
>> Michael Blake
>> k9jri at mac.com<mailto:k9jri at icloud.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, ANDY DURBIN <a.durbin at msn.com<mailto:a.durbin at msn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Can the KAT500 L and C values be manually incremented and decremented? There appear to be no controls on the front panel to allow this and I was unable to download the KAT500 utility to see if manual control is supported there.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and 73,
>>
>> Andy, k3wyc
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:52:54 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: Art <kz5d at aol.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 connecting cable to K3
> Message-ID: <e90dfa40-0cb1-ad91-9e18-be5f4d982721 at embarqmail.com>
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> Art,
>
> The KPA1500 to K3 cable is 5 feet long.
> Yes, it can be extended, but about 10 feet is the limit. The limiting
> factor is the response time on the single wire communications bus over
> the AUXBUS line.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/16/2018 10:24 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote:
>> Is there any provision for extending the standard Elecraft cable that is only about 3 ft to accommodate placement of the 1500 a little further away?
>>
>>
>> 6 or 7 ft. would be ideal in my situation.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>
>> Art KZ5D
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:15:23 -0400
> From: Neil Zampella <neilz at techie.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Build: Requesting Tips and Tricks
> Message-ID: <fe0b8be3-b390-bfe0-9145-813128000fa3 at techie.com>
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>
> I just finished mine, and its loaded.
>
> I agree with all the previous advice, I picked up another 40 drawer
> parts cabinet for the parts, used them both,? and kept them in order
> that way.? Each board had its own area of the cabinets,Packing Box bag
> in one area,? Control Board in the next, RF board in another, etc.? I
> then segregated the parts by type. All the capacitors in one section,
> either by the PCB board number, or in the case of the '102' and '103'
> capacitors, all in one drawer and grabbed them as needed.??? Marked them
> across the front of the drawer with a Sharpie and masking tape.
>
> My resistors came all taped ready to go in order, just find the right
> end of the 'string' and work from there.?? Verify the colors, but it
> will save you a lot of time searching for the next resistor.
>
> Check and double check all the polarity and pin installations of the
> electrolytic capacitors, diodes and transistors.?? As far as ICs, make
> sure you have them positioned properly.???? When the manual says to
> verify PIN 1, you verify PIN 1.
>
> My only fault was that I installed an IC backwards.?? I looked at that
> thing daily and did not see that the large 'dimple' on the top and to
> one side of the IC was NOT the side with pin1 and the notch.???? It
> wasn't a costly mistake, but I lost about 4 weeks waiting for it to come
> back from Elecraft.????? FWIW ... I wasn't the only person who missed
> that, so I didn't feel so bad :)
>
> Make sure you have the right solder, and a GOOD temperature controlled
> soldering station.? I got a Hakko FX888 from Amazon for $97.00.
>
> Have a VERY GOOD digital meter that can measure capacitance, resistance,
> DC voltage, etc.??? Comes in handy when verifying parts you can see
> easily, but later on during the alignment steps.
>
> I had a good time putting it together.? I'm ready to build another one
> just because it was enjoyable, frustrating at times, but mostly
> enjoyable.??? The support from Elecraft is amazing, an email at 8 pm ET,
> would get a reply by 10 pm only because I don't think Don sleeps!
>
> Don't hesitate to send emails if you have a question, as the book says,
> they will not let you fail.???? Make sure you make the changes in the
> main manual as listed in the errata, definitely saves you time, and
> errors.????? I'd also download the K2 Manual Appendices from the
> website, and print out the board component location diagrams.?? Once you
> start placing components, you may not be able to see exactly where that
> final part goes, but the diagrams help, and taping them up over your
> bench keeps you from having to flip back and forth from your
> installation step to the diagram.?? I even printed out the inventory
> parts list from that file, made the changes from the errata, and used
> that to identify parts if needed to keep me from flipping back and forth.
>
> Finally, the Elecraft website has a lot of good tips under its "Builder
> Resources" page.? I will let you know that many of the K2 mods there are
> already incorporated in the new kits, so you can read about them, but
> you don't have to do them.?? You can verify if you need anything yourself.
>
> Enjoy, there is nothing that gives me greater satisfaction to turn on my
> K2/100 and say .. "I built that .. and it works !!!"
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
>
> On 6/15/2018 7:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> Its been 15 years or so [K2 S/N 4398] but my resistors were taped in
>> the order of insertion.? If yours are, don't remove them before
>> needed.? I measured each of mine as I was about to insert it, and all
>> were correct.? I can see the colors, I just can't name them so this
>> was a huge gift from Elecraft. Benton Harbor just sent a bag, but of
>> course auto-insertion equipment hadn't been invented then either.
>> [:-)? I've always wondered how the machine that tapes them works.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 6/15/2018 4:03 PM, Brian Denley wrote:
>>> Scott:
>>> Get some magnification aid: binocular microscope, magnifying lamp,
>>> etc.? Some of those parts are pretty small and solder joints need to
>>> be inspected.? Good lighting is a must as well as an anti static mat.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> KB1VBF
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 2:14 PM, hawley, charles j jr
>>>> <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took about 10 years to build it. I started, then moved the ham
>>>> shack to the new addition. I recorded every mod, change and
>>>> alternate part over the 10 years and essentially wrote a new updated
>>>> assembly manual. Bought all the add on options. Bought new firm ware
>>>> that I never got to use and bought new again at the finish. Turned
>>>> it on and guess what, no issues. Somehow I like the way it sounds,
>>>> maybe better than the K3...
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>> KE9UW
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone, cjack
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Martin Sole <hs0zed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I built 7723 last year and it was an outstanding way to while away
>>>>> a good few days in the desert.? Here's a couple of things that
>>>>> might help you along:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not one kit it's 3. Think of it like that and keep everything
>>>>> separate. Even though you will do a minimal build on the RF board
>>>>> for test purposes it's still 3 kits.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a one day build. Even if you spend every waking hour on it
>>>>> (you wont!) it still takes a fair few days/weeks/months to get
>>>>> through.
>>>>>
>>>>> The book is right! Even when it's just plain wrong, it's right. Go
>>>>> back read it again, ask on here. But that build book must have been
>>>>> worked over almost 8000 times, it's right.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't find any suitable trays to organise components but I
>>>>> bought a set of small(ish) plastic pots with lids. Big enough to
>>>>> get my fingers in. I had 12 I think which was more than enough,
>>>>> about 4 inches diameter and a couple of inches deep. Keeping the
>>>>> lids on and marked with the contents helped keep from them
>>>>> scattering from a careless movement or other accident.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep everything as Elecraft intended. If it came in a separate
>>>>> little brown envelope, inventory it then put it back in the
>>>>> envelope. Keep the resistors on their tapes, they are in fitting
>>>>> order.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get a good quality pair of flush cutters and learn how to use them.
>>>>> It's worthwhile perfecting the technique of close cutting the leads
>>>>> before soldering, makes a nice board to handle afterwards and is
>>>>> very very very necessary in the area of the main vfo encoder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask questions here, it's a fantastic resource.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last, but by no means least, enjoy! As the ads say, it's the most
>>>>> fun you have with your clothes on. Though that might depend on how
>>>>> you do your kit building :)
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/06/2018 21:45, Scott wrote:
>>>>>> I'll be starting a K2 build in the near future after the inventory
>>>>>> is complete.? A partial inventory is complete at this point.? I'm
>>>>>> looking for tips and tricks for a successful build.? Right now my
>>>>>> biggest problem as I see it, is how to organize all the caps and
>>>>>> resistors to make the build go smooth and relatively quick.? At
>>>>>> any rate, all suggestions are welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> AD5HS
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:20:21 -0400
> From: Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <54D82DBE-5414-4ADE-A165-DBBE00643E32 at xmission.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>
> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>
> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>
> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom NY4I
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:28:37 -0400
> From: Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com>
> To: Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <6D1D5C8D-71E6-4645-B100-EE8493CAA71F at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> It isn?t just this list, of course. It?s every list, every BBS, every Yahoo or Google or IO group, twitter, and FB, and Reddit, and ? And every digest.
>
> I?ve never come across any list that will automatically do the filtering for you. And sometimes the OT threads can be quite interesting .. at least early on. :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>
>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>
>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>
>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom NY4I
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:32:09 -0400
> From: Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com>
> To: Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <3945BF06-E724-46F3-83BF-B2508A61CDF9 at xmission.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks.
>
> To avoid creating too many posts (and have this turn into a me-too off topic post), if people respond to me directly IF THEY KNOW HOW to FILTER a DIGEST, I will summarize and send it back to the list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom NY4I
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Grant Youngman <ghyoungman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It isn?t just this list, of course. It?s every list, every BBS, every Yahoo or Google or IO group, twitter, and FB, and Reddit, and ? And every digest.
>>
>> I?ve never come across any list that will automatically do the filtering for you. And sometimes the OT threads can be quite interesting .. at least early on. :-)
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com <mailto:toms at xmission.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net <http://qth.net/> list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>>
>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>>
>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tom NY4I
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:42:01 -0400
> From: "Tom" <tomb18 at videotron.ca>
> To: "Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite
> Message-ID: <DB1E12C196134282A506A0D8F65C9901 at DESKTOPAV61F2H>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello, There is a new release of Win4K3Suite which now provides display and control of the KPA1500. Win4K3Suite is a full featured control program for the Elecraft K3, K3S, KX3 and KX2 supporting the KPA500, and KPA1500 as well as various Panadapters. It includes built in Virtual radios allowing the sharing of the radio with up to 6 additional programs or hardware devices.
>
> You can see it in action here:
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Win4K3Suite
> and download a 30 day free trial at va2fsq.com
>
> Robust and contest proven, Win4K3Suite has been chosen as the software integration platform for the upcoming DXpediation to Baker Island in 2018.
> Check out the user reviews! https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11214
>
> 73 Tom
> va2fsq.com
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:42:11 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <1af65e1f-7ebb-22a5-c441-7154db313240 at embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Tom,
>
> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you
> are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your
> smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>
> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the
> digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
> Subscribe to individual emails.
> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>
> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place
> anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>
> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>
>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>
>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>
>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:59:29 -0400
> From: Thomas Schaefer <toms at xmission.com>
> To: donwilh at embarqmail.com
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting Off topic email
> Message-ID: <691716AB-CA9C-419B-AB78-D9DAD4CE1234 at xmission.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks for the useful information Don. I changed over to non-digest.
>
> I use a Mac so I already have all radio list email go into a Smart Folder. I created a rule to automatically delete any email that has OT in the subject (ironically, this one). Hopefully we can ask people to give some serious thought to what they write and if they must post something off-topic, to include OT in the subject. Again, just a polite request?I?m not telling people what to post.
>
> I believe that takes care of this one so thank you all for your consideration and the bandwidth.
>
> <SNARK>We can now go back to discussing how FT8 cannot be used at Field Day (with my K3 to make it tangentially on topic) or how my P3 makes a better pan adapter than back in the day when I used an Kenwood SM-220 (and the resulting 30 post thread about how good the Kenwood TS-820 line was). </SNARK>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom NY4I
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>
>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>
>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>
>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:16:34 -0400
> From: Dan Maase <dfmaase at aol.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: dfmaase at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot
> Message-ID: <16409624b1f-c8a-18318 at webjas-vab243.srv.aolmail.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> The K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot behavior has been passed up the Elecraft Tech/Engineering chain.? I expect it may take them some time to get to it, so in the meantime it would be useful for those interested to conduct the test below to determine if the behavior is unique to my K3 or more wide spread.?
> ?
> My primary concern is operating with the K3 driving an amplifier (KPA 500 in my case).? It is often the case that the overshoot is so high that the KPA faults on the first key press when power is set for 500 watts and in SSB +CW mode.
> __________________________________________________________________________________
> ?
> Following is a repeatable test that exhibits the overshoot and power adjust instability problem we have been discussing.
> ?
> Setup:
> 1,? Output terminated in dummy load (ANT 1)
> 2.? Config: CW WGHT -- [1]? SSB +CW
> 3.? S Meter Peak -- ON
> 4.? Meter Mode -- SWR/RF (to observe output power)
> 5.? Set Power 50 watts (initial setting)
> 6.? Select any band
> ?
> Operation:
> 1.? Select CW mode; VOX on
> ?
> Press key and hold.
> ? ? Note that power ramps up to the set 50 watt value
> ? ? Adjust power up or down; note that the power change is smooth with no jumps or overshoots
> ? ? Press key on/off/on .... -- power always returns to set value
> ? ? Release key and set power to 50 watts
> ?
> 2.? Change to SSB mode (upper or lower)
> ?
> ? ??Press key and hold while observing watt meter -- note that power overshoots the 50 watt level and then? ? ??? ??? ?drops to 50?watts.
> ? ? Adjust power up.? Note that the power jumps high then returns to set value.?
>
> ? ? Adjust power down.? Note that the power jumps high, than returns to set value.
> ? ? (note that whether the power is adjusted higher or lower, the output power jumps higher, then ? ??? ??? ??? ?reduces to the?set value).
> ? ? Also note that the power supply current jumps (overshoots high) coincident with each power adjustment.
> ? ? Release key, then press again and hold. Note that the power does not overshoot the set value.? Release and ? ??hold any number of times and power continues to be stable at set value.
> ?
> Changing now to CW mode with VOX and power is stable.
> Changing back to SSB +CW and power is unstable and with overshoot with first key press.
> ?
> This phenomenon occurs in both HP and LP modes.
> This phenomenon is apparent when the K3 is initially turned on from a cold start, but gets progressively more pronounced after about 10 minutes of on time in quiescent state (no RF out).? PA Temp at this time is 25C.? As requested, fan is set to level 1.
> ?
> Discussion:
> It is my understanding from old Reflector mail posts that the SSB +CW mode is implemented such that when key is pressed, the K3 changes dynamically from SSB to CW mode.? It appears that the CW ALC function is not in play until some time delay after key press, at which time the CW output settles at the set power level.? This time delay would appear to be at the root of the problem.? When the power is adjusted, it would appear the ALC loop opens up and then re-engages when adjustment stops.
>
> ?
> The fact that the phenomenon changes in magnitude as the K3 warms up, may simply be a function of linear stages within the ALC loop changing gain with temperature.
> ?
> The above test sequence is easy to apply and as such would be very curious to see if the phenomenon occurs on any of the Elecraft bench test K3's.
> ______________________________________________________________________________________
> ?
> Thanks and 73,
> Dan AC6DM
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:07:36 -0700
> From: Paul Baldock <paul at paulbaldock.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] ATU Manual settings - KPA1500
> Message-ID: <5b2543db.1c69fb81.c27fc.7a76 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> It seems I can get a much better SWR by manually changing the L/C
> settings. However, I have not figured out how to store those manually
> entered settings; it always returns to the auto setting (as
> demonstrated by changing bands and then changing back ).
>
> Anybody know how to do this?
>
> - Paul KW7Y
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:17:54 -0700
> From: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <2DEF9CBD-4606-4351-AFD5-D458719941A5 at wunderwood.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>
> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>
>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>
>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>
>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>
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>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:27:53 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID:
> <abdd0fec-13ac-dfc6-379b-044eb0fe3dbf at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On 6/16/2018 8:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
> I subscribe to almost two dozen email reflectors. I used digest mode
> once many years ago when I went away on vacation, and that was the
> reason I stopped.? A far better solution is good email software that can
> be set up to sort incoming email into mailboxes that you can then
> quickly scroll through. I use Thunderbird.
>
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
> I know there are utilities to do this. Others will tell you about them.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:32:36 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot
> Message-ID:
> <f5a57b52-e999-1392-27af-8856d83700bd at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On 6/16/2018 9:16 AM, Dan Maase via Elecraft wrote:
>> Changing back to SSB +CW
> What is SSB +CW?
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:33:45 +0000
> From: John Hiatt <hidron at hotmail.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID:
> <CY4PR11MB13662E66361873C60EC648ADD9730 at CY4PR11MB1366.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> There is a separate email list for Elecraft Sales. It is how the monthly newsletters have been distributed. I can't seem to find information on the web site about how to subscribe to it though, and I don't remember how I got signed up.
>
> John, KC7DRI
>
> ________________________________
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:17 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
>
> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>
> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:15:17 -0700
> From: Ronald Genovesi <n3eta at coastside.net>
> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <EB233855-D4A8-415D-A49E-2CD498781CA9 at coastside.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push? This whole thread should have been labeled ?OT"
>
> Ron Genovesi
> n3eta at coastside.net
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:
>>
>> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>>
>> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com <mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>>
>>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>>
>>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>>
>>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>
>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org <mailto:wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm>
>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/>
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html>
>> Message delivered to n3eta at coastside.net <mailto:n3eta at coastside.net>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:24:01 -0400
> From: Bert Craig <wa2si at arrl.net>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
> Message-ID: <d33a3af8-0a85-409b-a24c-fc715f0419eb.maildroid at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.) Imagine coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and asking the ops to go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...
>
> Vy 73 de Bert
> WA2SI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Genovesi <n3eta at coastside.net>
> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
>
> Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push? This whole thread should have been labeled ?OT"
>
> Ron Genovesi
> n3eta at coastside.net
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:
>>
>> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>>
>> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com <mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>>
>>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>>
>>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>>
>>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:40:43 -0700
> From: EricJ <eric.csuf at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
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> Since I only own a K1 and a couple of K2s, the vast majority of posts on
> this list are OT to me. A few filters in Thunderbird allow me to see the
> legacy stuff and the OT stuff keeps the Elecraft community together when
> there are no Elecraft specific posts. That helps ensure the Elecraft
> brain trust is there when "on topic" answers are needed.
>
> Eric KE6US
>
>
> On 6/16/2018 11:24 AM, Bert Craig wrote:
>> Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.) Imagine coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and asking the ops to go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...
>>
>> Vy 73 de Bert
>> WA2SI
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ronald Genovesi <n3eta at coastside.net>
>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
>>
>> Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push? This whole thread should have been labeled ?OT"
>>
>> Ron Genovesi
>> n3eta at coastside.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>>>
>>> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
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>>>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com <mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>>>
>>>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>>>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>>>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>>>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>>>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>>>
>>>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>>>
>>>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop ?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
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