[Elecraft] KPA500 thermal clicks

Tue Jul 17 12:20:40 EDT 2018

Makes sense. Seems like high power isn’t in the spirit of the mode. High power is bound to affect many just to make that one high power but weak signal contact now instead of trying at another time.
As well, working all countries with high power in one evening doesn’t seem in the spirit either.

Chuck
KE9UW

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> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:59 AM, turnbull <turnbull at net1.ie> wrote:
> 
> EME boys fave a lot of patb loss and their Yagis point to the moon.   For terrestrial worm, the path loss is generally much lower and especially when there are othdf local hams or good propagation the signal levels can be high.   This often leads to excessively wide signals on different audio frequencies.
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> -------- Original message --------From: "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave at nk7z.net> Date: 17/07/2018  15:30  (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 thermal clicks 
> yes...  Weak Signal, not low power.  The EME boys use 1 KW.
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave
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>> On 07/17/2018 07:15 AM, turnbull wrote:
>> I thought FT8 was a low power mode.   Am I wrong?   I am not referring to Fox Hound mode.
>> 73 DOUG EI2CN
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>> -------- Original message --------From: Michael Blake via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> Date: 17/07/2018  14:12  (GMT+00:00) To: Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, ANDY DURBIN <a.durbin at msn.com> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 thermal clicks
>> While possibly my imagination, after a few months of use I loosened all of the Z bracket to heatsink screws and side panel to heatsink screws and then retightened all of them plus the top cover to Z bracket screws.  That seemed to reduce the clicking.
>> 
>> Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI
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>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> “Clicks” caused by the “Z” bracket are well documented and normal. Personally, I don’t find this “intolerable” or even slightly annoying. My wall clock “ticks” every second.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
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>>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 7:56 AM, ANDY DURBIN <a.durbin at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The clicking of my KPA500 is almost intolerable and I'd like to know if what I'm experiencing is typical.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In an FT8 TX/RX cycle  with output power 126 W my KPA500 clicks 7-8 times during 15 second transmit and 7-8 times during 15 second receive.  In these TX/RX cycles my logger shows the finals temperature swings between 57 deg C and 63 deg C.   During  this test the KPA500 was seeing an SWR of 1.02:1  and calculated PA dissipation was 307 W.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think this temperature swing is likely to cause the heat sink to expand and contract significantly.  The thermal mass of the heat sink is quite large and the heating and cooling periods are short.    The first click happens almost as soon as the KPA500 is keyed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think it is possible that the clicks are caused by expansion and contraction  of the finals at their mounting points.   Is that likely and, if so, why would it be considered normal?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Andy k3wyc
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