[Elecraft] K3S VS: IC-7300

[Doug Person]

Well your experience is much different than mine. I enjoy all the brands 
just as I enjoy many brands of guitars, telescopes, and cars.

None have been as responsive as Elecraft. But, I certainly haven't been 
subjected to rudeness or condescension (the latter would be a serious 
mistake on anyone's part.)

I have nice examples of all the brands and I have my favorites.

The "Man/Machine" interface as an engineering challenge is always 
fascinating.

Doug -- KJ0F


On 7/4/2018 11:10 AM, Tom wrote:
> My experience with technical support from Icom, .. most emails go 
> unanswered.  Phone calls get resolved.  Very little feedback for 
> firmware updates or issues.
> My experience with Yaesu, some of the most rude and condescending 
> support staff anywhere. Horrible to deal with.  Everything is "send in 
> the radio".
> My experience with Elecraft, top notch, always want to help, sometimes 
> slow firmware updates, but always proportional to the number of requests.
>
> Ergonomics:  Feel of controls, and quality of controls: Yaeus first, 
> followed by Icom, then Elecraft.  Using a FTDX-5000 is just real 
> pleasure.
>
> 73 Tom
> va2fsq.com
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Doug Turnbull
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 1:40 PM
> To: 'Doug Person' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S VS: IC-7300
>
> Friends,
>    There are some other points not mentioned.   Yes, I agree the K3 is
> pricy but the performance is there.   However for most things the IC-7300
> does a grand job as does the TD590s.    For now and for some considerable
> time in the past though the K3 has had a superior receiver good in 
> contests
> and with high power neighbours.
>
>     Other K3/S advantages:
> 1)Modular construction allows one to only purchase what is relevant to 
> your
> needs and to build the radio up over time if desired.   This also
> facilitates repair as modules can be swapped or sent back to California.
> No need to send the entire radio.   Elecraft if you make a new radio 
> in the
> future try to maintain this modular approach.
>
> 2) Just what type of support does one get from Icom?   I very much doubt
> there is an equal forum with the designers involved.    Support from the
> factory in getting questions answered is also excellent.
>
> 3)More attention should be given to the clean output signal of the K3.
>
> 4)I wonder if the facilitation of digimodes by the 7610 is the equal 
> of the
> K3/S.
>
> 5) There is a very full line of accessories for the Elecraft line and 
> again
> all of this is modular.
>
> 6) The ability to at least assemble the radio gives the owner of a kit 
> built
> radio a better understanding as to operation and trouble shooting if ever
> needed.   It also saves on import duties into the EU.
>
>      Maybe Wayne should toot Elecrafts horn for these advantages as well.
> Again though you can work DX with an old FTDX 100 or Drake 2B with 
> Johnson
> Ranger at much lower cost it will not be so well facilitated. The fully
> equipped K3 is not an inexpensive radio it is a Porsche of the radio 
> world.
>
>       I can not imagine a company better than Elecraft to deal with 
> though
> I understand that Flex is pretty good and so to has TenTec been in the 
> past.
> Are they as good - this is hard for me to believe.
>
>                   73 Doug EI2CN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Person
> Sent: 04 July 2018 17:11
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S VS: IC-7300
>
> I didn't see any comparison chart for the K3S and the IC-7610.  I did
> see the comparison of the K3S with the IC-7300. This made me laugh. By
> the time you add up the required options for the K3S to achieve feature
> parity with the IC-7300 it costs 3 times as much. This actually makes
> the IC-7300 look like a really good deal. The IC-7300 is, after all, an
> entry level radio.
>
> I'll never stop being impressed by the ability of the K3/K3S. But, to
> me, it is no longer cost competitive. The only advantage the K3S has
> today is it has one of the best receivers. I doubt this advantage will
> last much longer.
>
> Doug -- KJ0F
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to turnbull at net1.ie
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
>