[Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Neil Zampella neilz at techie.com
Tue Jul 3 21:28:20 EDT 2018


Mike,

the only automation is in the middle of the contact, the operator has to 
be in front of the radio and computer in order to select a station to 
answer,  to begin transmission, and to log the QSO.

None of that is automated in WSJT-X.   I cannot speak for other programs 
that have gone beyond that.

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 7/3/2018 5:06 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> That is FT8.  There is no involvement once the contact starts. That is 
> the beauty of it.    The automation is no legal in the USA and many 
> other places but I doubt it will be addressed much like excessive 
> power.  It is never addressed.  Do it right.  Don't worry about 
> others.  Have fun.
>
> The RTTY difference is that they come back to me and I moved, they 
> can't find me, they waste more time sending w0mu 599 over and over and 
> over again.  That is not better in my book.  If have not left.  I push 
> one other button to make a contact.  Seems pretty similar to me.
>
> To each their own.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 7/3/2018 2:59 PM, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
>> "How is it any different than the RTTY setups used for DXpeditions 
>> that  would do essentially the same thing, listen over a wide range 
>> and stack  the calls heard?"
>>
>> The, in my opinion huge, difference is that FT8 DXpedition mode does 
>> not even require the operator to be in the shack to complete the 
>> QSO.  All it takes is to start auto TX of your grid and then walk 
>> away.  As long as your call gets on the stack before your watchdog 
>> times out (assuming you have not defeated it) then the rest is 
>> automatic, including waking up your TX Enable if it had timed out.
>>
>> Two of my KH1 FT8 QSO were completed after I had given up and turned 
>> off TX Enable.  Although I was still in the shack I had no 
>> involvement in completing the QSO.  I was just a spectator. That is 
>> very different from the level of interaction required to complete a 
>> QSO in CW, Phone, or RTTY.
>>
>> I have no opinion on the experience of the DXpedition operator. Never 
>> been one and not likely to be one.
>>
>> 73,
>> Andy k3wyc
>>
>>
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