[Elecraft] Fwd: K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

Bob McGraw K4TAX rmcgraw at blomand.net
Fri Feb 23 09:42:07 EST 2018


I don't find those value to work correctly.   The communication between 
the computer and radio is USB.     If it were RS-232, maybe so.

Also be sure the Poll Interval on the F2 Setup menu,   Radio tab is set 
to a value of 1 second.

Via the CONFIG menu, PTT - KEY is set to OFF - OFF, the RS-232 set to USB.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 2/23/2018 8:25 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
> Try this.
>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net 
>> <mailto:rmcgraw at blomand.net>> wrote:
>>
>> No issues of that type here.   These are my setup numbers:
>>
>> Baud Rate = Eight
>> 38400
>> Stop Bits = one two
>>
>> Handshake = None
>>
>> PTT method = CAT RTS
>>
>> Mode = Data/Pkt
>>
>> Split = Rig Fake It
>>
>> Also under the Advanced tab:  Miscellaneous
>>
>> TX Delay = 0.1 sec.
>>
>>  I'm not running any other applications such as JT Alert, N1NM, etc.  
>> The computer is connected direct to the K3S with no router, or 
>> splitter, or hub  and such in the path.
>>
>> ***  Be sure the VOX mode on the radio is OFF.  {Very important}
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/22/2018 10:08 PM, Richard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Richard <FlatHat at comcast.net <mailto:FlatHat at comcast.net>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing
>>>> Date: February 22, 2018 at 11:06:58 PM EST
>>>> To: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com <mailto:w6jhb at me.com>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m fighting the same problem and MORE. It usually goes like this:
>>>>
>>>> First FT8 (or JT65) activity of the day, the K3S seems to start on 
>>>> time but sometimes shut off quite late. Any band, any power; I 
>>>> don’t use the amplifier, so 100 watts is the limit.
>>>>
>>>> As time  goes along, the transmission initiation BY THE K3S gets 
>>>> later and later, and the shut off time does, too. By late I mean 2 
>>>> to sometimes 5 seconds!
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, it starts late, then DOESN’T shut off at all.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, it doesn’t start at all.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve tried just about every imaginable combination of setting on 
>>>> the Radio panel and in the Config menu, all with no improvement.
>>>>
>>>> In the year or more of enjoying JT65 and then FT8 with my Icom 
>>>> IC-7410, I had NONE of these problems, using the same computer and 
>>>> same software. It was bang on and trouble free from Day One.
>>>>
>>>> You kinda hafta suspect the K3S is the culprit in this, but I’m 
>>>> open to anything. If I can’t solve this soon, there will be a 
>>>> virtually brand new K3S for sale.
>>>>
>>>> Richard - W4KBX
>>>>
>>>>> Guys - sorry for the delay in responding to your posts - places to 
>>>>> go, things to do, all overriding ham radio for a couple hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was suggested that I see if I’m out of sync on my computer 
>>>>> clock(s). Well, here is the strange thing: the iMac that the K3 is 
>>>>> connected to consistently is giving me a DT response of 0.1 to 0.2 
>>>>> on 90% of the decoded stations, so I’m thinking that the default 
>>>>> time server the iMac / OSX is connected to is pretty accurate. But 
>>>>> it is this rig that starts it’s transmission a bit late.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RPi 3 that the KX3 is connected to consistently is giving me 
>>>>> DT figures around -0.8 to -0.9. which makes me think my time sync 
>>>>> is a little off. But the KX3 connected to this RPi starts right up 
>>>>> when it is supposed to. Interestingly, that RPi 3 is connected via 
>>>>> short Ethernet to another RPi 3 that runs it’s own GPS-sync’d NTP 
>>>>> server. Go figure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m stumped.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check the clocks on the computers. Sync them to a time server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 6:30 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:w6jhb at me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dennis - how you doing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I neglected to provide enough info - was in a hurry to 
>>>>>>> post that before I had to run out to pickup kids at school 
>>>>>>> (close to your dads QTH!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using VOX on both rigs. Each rig has it’s own computer and 
>>>>>>> separate, but identical external USB sound cards. The K3 is 
>>>>>>> connected to an iMac and the KX3 is connected to a Raspberry Pi 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim / W6JHB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Dennis Moore <dennis at mail4life.net 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:dennis at mail4life.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How are you keying the K3, VOX or PTT?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not clear from the email, are the K3 and KX3  on separate 
>>>>>>>> computers on just different sound cards in the same computer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Dennis NJ6G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/2018 14:22, James Bennett wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Got a question about using my K3 with WSJT-X 1.8.0 with FT8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I started looking at the “time bar” in WSJT-X and when the 
>>>>>>>>> K3’s red TX light comes on with the meter showing RF going 
>>>>>>>>> out. It is between 1.5 and 2 seconds after the beginning of 
>>>>>>>>> the new 15 second sequence! In that short duration, I am 
>>>>>>>>> hearing other stations’ signals coming through on my 
>>>>>>>>> headphones, so I know that other folks are getting their rig 
>>>>>>>>> to transmit right at the start of the 15 second sequence. If 
>>>>>>>>> mine is coming on 1.5 - 2 seconds late, I’m thinking I may not 
>>>>>>>>> always get decoded on the other end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, I switched over to my KX3 running the same version of 
>>>>>>>>> WSJT-X and observed what happened there. No delay - when the 
>>>>>>>>> new 15 second sequence starts, the KX3 goes into transmit 
>>>>>>>>> almost immediately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both the KX3 and the K3 are connected to two identical Tascam 
>>>>>>>>> USB125M external sound cards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there some setting on the K3 that is causing my 
>>>>>>>>> transmissions to fire off a tad late?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jim / W6JHB
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