[Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

Dave Cole (NK7Z) dave at nk7z.net
Fri Feb 23 08:53:52 EST 2018


I use my K3 on FT8 daily, and have never had a long delay, not once, I 
have used both one stop bit, and two stop bits, and can see no 
difference between the two.

Is it possible something is autobauding?  I have every thing set 
explicitly to 38.4K.  The WSJT-S software, the com port on the computer, 
and the radio.  Nothing is searching for speeds...

Many people forget that the computer might auto search for speed if not 
set to the speed presented to the com port.

I am running 38K speed, and have set the computer to do 38.4K as well. 
I would look to my computer for the delay, not the K3, unless the K3 is 
broken...  My K3 is in RS242 B mode at 38.4K.

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 02/22/2018 09:19 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> RIchard,
> 
> There are no long delays inherent in the K3/K3S transmit timing. It should be ready to transmit RF within 5 to 15 ms of PTT assertion, depending on mode and other factors.
> 
> My apologies; I have not been closely reading this thread. I’ll come up to speed and get back to you.
> 
> If this is a transceiver problem, we’ll fix it ASAP.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
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>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Richard <FlatHat at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I’m missing something, but the “timing” problem with which some of us are fighting has nothing to do with computer clock accuracy. Even if the computer time is off, it’s the only time reference WSJT-X has to work with.
>>
>> So the instant the computer tells the software it’s time to transmit, BANG! WSJT-X goes into transmit RIGHT NOW, as it should, late or not, the software doesn’t know and doesn’t care.
>>
>> Our problem is that when WSJT-X goes into Transmit at the top of the new segment and tells the K3S to transmit, the K3S DOESN’T transmit. Its almost always late by 2 or 3, sometimes 4 or 5 full seconds. In my case, it eventually doesn’t transmit AT ALL!
>>
>> That’s not a software problem or a computer clock problem. It looks like a K3S problem, and I’d sure like to see the solution before I dump this radio.
>>
>> Richard - W4KBX
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are seeing a majority of the decodes in which the DT is less than <0.5 seconds, your computer clock is close enough for reliable contacts and decodes.   The software should handle decodes with a DT up to 2.0 seconds, but in many cases this depends largely {very largely in fact} on signal quality.  Both as transmitted and received.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2018 7:28 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>>>> Check the clocks on the computers. Sync them to a time server.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> ...nr4c. bill
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