[Elecraft] K2 100 Tuner question

[Gary]

You don't need the drawings. If someone would scan the existing case and share the scans it is simple to print.

I don't know what kind of copyright and/or patent issues that creates.

73,
Joe kk0sd

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From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Neil Zampella
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:45 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 100 Tuner question

You know, the point is moot.   I would assume that Wayne & Eric looked at getting a replacement vendor, but then after getting bids based on the sales history of the EC2, they determined that it would not be feasible at the price point they wanted to sell them at.

Now, it would be great if they could release a PDF of the engineering drawings of the EC2, so that those who wanted to create a KAT100-2 could still do that.

Neil, KN3iLZ

On 12/22/2018 11:42 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
> To the original point, there is no difficulty finding a different vendor, there are no tooling costs, and producing parts in small quantity is not cost prohibitive.
>
> Some people need to be right. Others want the right answer. Only the latter is of interest.
>
> Enough said.
>
> 73,
> Josh W6XU
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you spread $5K over a projected sales quantity of 100 (there were not of EC2 enclosures sold), then you have a tooling cost of $50 per enclosure.
>> Add to that the cost of administrative support, creating web pages, packing and shipping labor, and you have an EC2 enclosure that has to sell for over $150 to produce any profit.  About double the original customer cost of the EC2.
>>
>> It is different if you can project selling thousands of the items.
>> Enough said.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 12/22/2018 10:38 PM, W2xj wrote:
>>> You can buy a 3D printer for under $5K and make metal work on an as needed basis. That is where the auto industry is going.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 19:03, Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Josh,
>>>>
>>>> I may not be up to speed, but there are startup costs for anything.  Those costs have to be added to the product cost and for small volumes, it can be prohibited.
>>>> Entering a CAD file, getting scheduling from a small shop that may have a full schedule already can be costly.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/22/2018 9:16 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
>>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you're not up to speed on 21st century sheet metal fabrication.
>>>>>
>>>>> Small volume parts like this would be cut on a laser and bent with a CNC press brake. The only setup is loading the programs and there is no tooling. If someone draws the parts using a CAD program like Solid Edge, the resulting 3D models can be utilized directly by the vendor. Even small job shops have laser cutting ability, especially for small gauge material like this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

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