[Elecraft] Art of Electronics
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Sun Apr 8 14:33:36 EDT 2018
They are working on the next edition, the X edition, which is referenced throughout the 3rd edition. It is supposed to be released this year but no date yet. I gather it is supposed to be much more in depth.
73
Tim, KQ8M
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Hi Robie,
The free Second Edition pdf is quite dated (1980), but work every penny of the price!
73
Frank
W3LPL
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From: "Robie Elms" <ruler55 at gmail.com>
To: donovanf at starpower.net
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Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 4:46:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics
Thanks for all the feedback. I’ll look at the pdf 2nd version first!
Robie
> On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:13, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
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> The current Third Edition is available in used but like new condition for $56.50 with free shipping at:
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> https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0521809266/ref=tmm_hrd_used_ol
> p_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr=
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> The Second Edition is available for free as a pdf at:
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> https://ia801605.us.archive.org/14/items/TheArtOfElectronics-2ndEditio
> n/the-art-of-electronics.pdf
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>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Mike Markowski" <mike.ab3ap at gmail.com>
> To: "Robie Elms" <ruler55 at gmail.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:42:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics
>
> Robie,
>
> I don't have all editions to compare, but think newest is usually best.
> Maybe others know better? The book is an intro, though very detailed!,
> and doesn't cover much in the way of RF to my recollection. It would
> be a foundation that makes RF design easy to follow, though.
>
> Others might have better recommendations for ham-specific books. But
> if you leaf through something like ARRL's "Introduction to Radio
> Frequency Design," you'll probably get more from it after a book like Art of Elec.
>
> 73,
> Mike ab3ap
>
>> On 04/08/2018 11:28 AM, Robie Elms wrote:
>> Which edition is the most useful for hams?
>>
>> Robie AJ4F
>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:14, Mike Markowski <mike.ab3ap at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck and all,
>>>
>>> It really is a great book, the best I've found on the topic for my
>>> style of learning. I really like math but also need concrete
>>> examples. I like their approach of "here's how we might approach
>>> this," leading to shortcomings, to how to improve, etc. Very
>>> methodical rather than jumping straight into the best solution
>>> without knowing where the model came from.
>>>
>>> In general, I find electronics learning - or really, learning
>>> anything - to be iterative. I'd take the math class, then the EE and
>>> understand some. As more math or EE clicked I'd understand the other
>>> a little better. And so on. At long last, I'm ready to compete with
>>> those kids who skated through university effortlessly...as
>>> retirement is only a decade away! Better late than never. :-)
>>>
>>> 73, Mike ab3ap
>>>
>>>> On 04/07/2018 07:17 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: That’s a great
>>>> book, “The Art of Electronics”. Horowitz and Hill, Harvard and
>>>> Rowland institute for Science. Interesting about the math. I
>>>> learned the math, though, in EE courses and found that to be a
>>>> plus. Math with an application. Seemed like I was always taking the
>>>> math course after I learned the math the semester before in an EE
>>>> course. Anyway, I bought the book when I was already on the job and
>>>> it was a great source of ideas and understanding. Chuck KE9UW
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