[Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

Jim Brown jim at audiosystemsgroup.com
Tue Sep 5 13:17:47 EDT 2017


On 9/5/2017 6:24 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> A transceiver designed for use with a dynamic mic (Kenwood, TenTec,
> Kenwood, etc.) typically expects 5 mV (or less) on the mic input. The 
> attenuation needed to reduce 1 V to 50 mV is 46 dB (20log(.005/1)).

Joe,

While I greatly respect your engineering, the output of a dynamic mic 
varies widely depending on what it's hearing. The classic "little old 
lady on a lavalier" in a TV studio may produce only 5-10mV, but when 
worked close to the mouth, as most ham mics should be used, the output 
is more like 100 mV. The fictional lead vocalist Arthur Leatherlungs can 
easily drive a dynamic mic to 1 V. Not only that, many ham mics are 
electrets, which tend to have output levels equal to or greater than 
dynamic mics. The mic input stage must accommodate all of these mics. 
Although I've not measured input clip levels of ham gear, I'd be quite 
surprised if they clipped below about 100 mV. And clip level is what 
matters.

As to computer output levels -- while RATED output level for clip is 
typically in the range of 1V RMS, some I've measured suffer from 
increasing distortion 6 dB below their actual clip level. I've measured 
-30 dB harmonics just below clip, and -40dB at 6 dB below maximum 
output. Further, while pro systems are correctly adjusted so that all 
stages in a signal chain clip at the same level to maximize signal to 
noise, those systems are going for 100 dB or better. Few ham systems 
need better than 50 dB SNR in the audio spectrum, but distortion 
products can be critical. SO -- the output of a computer audio interface 
should not be run at its maximum level, certainly not hotter than about 
0.5V RMS.

Years ago, the venerable Shure M67 and M68 were designed so that they 
clipped in the range of 50 mV, and Shure had to sell inline pads (10-15 
dB attenuators) to prevent overload. A new company, Tapco, led by Greg 
Mackie developed new inexpensive small mixers to compete with Shure, and 
ended up eating Shure's lunch with an input circuit with feedback 
control of input gain that handled much higher signals without overload. 
For at least 40 years, any pro mic input will handle signals up to at 
least 3V RMS through the combined use of switchable pads and feedback 
gain control.

73, Jim K9YC



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