[Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

[Barry]

Lynn,
     I'm not sure whether I agree or not. I have no problem starting 
simple and seeing if it works. I have been in a position of needing to 
find what was happening without knowing what all was actually going on, 
something akin to solving for 2 unknowns with only one equation. 
However, I think you really need to know where you are going and 
establish a framework for that. I'm not convinced starting with just a 
single mode generator/decoder is the way to go. You are going to need to 
do at least some logging ability. Here you are, two requirements and no 
framework.

     I know I've been doing this for a long time, and I kinda knew where 
I was trying to go. So, I built my framework first, and then started to 
hang other applications on it. It appears to me we view things from 
different perspectives. Do I think you are wrong? NO, I don't. But it is 
how I like to build up a functionality; it must be my engineering 
background. :-)

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <KX3.1 at coldrockshotbrooms.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 9/4/2017 8:55:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

>Barry,
>
>You missed my point in both of your responses.
>
>Here it is again:
>
>   * START SIMPLE *
>
>One thing I've learned as a computer scientist with a few decades 
>experience is that someone can spend hours trying staring at one part a 
>problem when the issue is in an entirely different place.
>
>That was the essence of my post.
>
>Start simple doesn't mean *FINISH SIMPLE* -- not by any means.
>
>It's just easier to solve problems when you don't have a ton of moving 
>parts.  Get two working, then add the third, then add the fourth, etc.
>
>73 -- Lynn
>
>On 9/4/2017 4:28 PM, Barry wrote:
>>Lynn,
>>     You are correct there is a lot of gee whiz software out there. 
>>And, the usual connection is serial port, even when that port is 
>>created by a USB connection. I have a hard time understanding why 
>>there is so much angst over serial ports. Windows has a window call 
>>device manger. In it, you can see what ports are being defined. If you 
>>use a USB connection, you can watch the port announce itself. Just for 
>>clarification, I AM NOT a computer scientist and need my spell checker 
>>to get it spelled correctly. However, I did learn about device manager 
>>and have been happy ever since.
>>
>>     If you plan on  having your logging software know where you are 
>>and band you're on and track other activities, you really don't get 
>>much choice; you must be able to share the data to/from the radio. The 
>>best thing, best behaved, is Win4K3 for the Elecraft users, regardless 
>>of whether you are a KX3 or K3 user. I am being told the KX2 is also 
>>fine and my K3s works great. The one thing I have found here and 1 
>>other station is having forgotten which ports I was using for what; I 
>>now have that written down and life is sweet.
>>
>>73,
>>Barry
>>K3NDM
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <KX3.1 at coldrockshotbrooms.com>
>>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>Sent: 9/4/2017 4:33:00 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s
>>
>>>The reason I asked is that it seems that there is a bunch of 
>>>wonderful software out there, that it's all pretty awesome.
>>>
>>>Brand new users struggle mightily with things like serial ports when 
>>>they aren't strictly needed.
>>>
>>>So, start with just the sound card (and VOX).  Then add the serial 
>>>port.  Then try adding port sharing.
>>>
>>>... and remember, the first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save 
>>>all the parts.
>>>
>>>73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT
>>>
>>>On 9/4/2017 1:07 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>>>Yep! The serial connection is needed only for frequency control, and 
>>>>WSJT-X works just fine without it. I don't do any port sharing, 
>>>>giving WSJT-X the port by itself, and log manually in DXKeeper.
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