[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 50
John Perlick
jperlick at ariacorp.com
Thu Mar 30 23:12:01 EDT 2017
Re: Higher Power Amps
Personally I want an amp that will load at 1500 Watts. Like my Alpha 87A or before it my All would state RF-3230--both had loads of design margin at 1500 W output. That give me comfort that the amp going to last a very long time.
K0UM
John Perlick
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> 1. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Harry Yingst)
> 2. OT; New technology/Graphene (Richard Fjeld)
> 3. Re: K3/100 + P3 **Update** (Phil Hystad)
> 4. KX line future accesories (David Satterwhite)
> 5. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Ken K6MR)
> 6. Re: FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Rick WA6NHC)
> 7. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Harry Yingst)
> 8. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Gerard Elijzen)
> 9. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Ken K6MR)
> 10. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Ron D'Eau Claire)
> 11. FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Emory Schley)
> 12. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Bill Frantz)
> 13. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Bill Frantz)
> 14. KX2 Weighted Knob (Doug Millar)
> 15. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Charlie T, K3ICH)
> 16. Re: KX2 Weighted Knob (Chris Tate - N6WM)
> 17. Re: FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Edward R Cole)
> 18. Re: Mounting a KX3+PX3 ? (David Anderson)
> 19. Re: KX2 Weighted Knob (Harry Yingst)
> 20. Re: Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Jim Allen)
> 21. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 49 (Patrick Lynch)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:20:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>
> To: "donwilh at embarqmail.com" <donwilh at embarqmail.com>, Elecraft Email
> List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
> Message-ID: <1917436095.710358.1490908806877 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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>
> For my use it fits my needs better as?I do not plan to use Elecrafts Transverters nor their 100 watt amp remotely.
> So it becomes a simpler solution.
>
>
>
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>; Elecraft Email List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
>
> Harry,
>
> OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details:
> You will have some problems to solve if using that device.
>
> First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V)
> instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need
> some more logic circuits to make it work.
>
> 2nd, the KIO2 provides internal K2 signals needed for Elecraft
> accessories like the KAT100, KRC2, XVseries Transverters.? If you ever
> want to add any of those accessories, you will be back "where you started".
>
> 3rd, if you ever add the KPA100, you will have to give up all your work.
> Although that device will mount on the KPA100 board, the levels and
> polarity are not right AND it contains ALL the RS-232 signal lines, not
> just TXD and RXD and Signal Ground.? You would have to make extensive
> modifications to the KPA100 board to make it work - and you still do not
> have the internal K2 signal lines to support the external Elecraft
> accessory boxes.
>
> Simple "solutions" are often complex.? It is easier to use an external
> USB to serial adapter IMHO.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 3/30/2017 3:43 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
>>
>> Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F
>>
>> USB straight to the K2
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:22:46 +0000
> From: Richard Fjeld <rpfjeld at outlook.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT; New technology/Graphene
> Message-ID:
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>
> (If this has been mentioned before, I apologize.)
>
> In looking for information on new battery technology, I found some
> interesting talks on YouTube about Graphene tied to battery development.
>
> Graphene is revolutionary. Relative to an Electron, the thickness of
> Graphene is said to be two dimensional.
>
> I don't know which is the most informative link. This is one of
> several. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh3dA8xnZ4Y
>
> I foresee the possibility of this bringing changes to the hobby, not
> only in batteries. (Consider invisible antennas as you watch the video.)
>
> Dick, n0ce
>
> --
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:24:17 -0700
> From: Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 + P3 **Update**
> Message-ID: <E14177A3-ECCE-4677-B25C-19C644F0F8D7 at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Earlier post Updated ? the P3 has been sold...
>
> For Sale: K3/100 Configuration as shown below
>
> Updated Price: $1950 inclusive of shipping/insurance to CONUS destination.
>
> The complement included in the K3, serial number #6183:
>
> ? K3/100 with standard 2.7 kHz Filter
> ? KAT3: K3 ATU Option
> ? KXV3A: RX Ant., IF Out and Xverter Interface Option
> ? KFL3A-250-R: 250 Hz, 8-Pole Filter
> ? KFL3A-400-R: 400 Hz, 8-Pole Filter
> ? KFL3A-1.0K-R: 1 kHz, 8-Pole Filter
> ? MH2: Hand Held microphone for the K3
> ? KUSB: Universal Serial Bus Adapter
>
> This K3 (modular kit) is fully assembled and calibrated per Elecraft calibration procedures. It is fully
> functional with no dents, no scratches, and no dust or dirt on the cabinet. Used only in a non-smoking
> environent.
>
> Also, Elecraft documentation for the K3 plus the Fred Cady ?Elecraft K3? book.
>
> Also, I (posting this ad for Fred) can be contacted at this address or with Phil?s (K7PEH) address
> offline for any additional questions and photos of the equipment.
>
> 73, Fred, KE7FB
> fbirch48 at gmail.com
>
> Posted by Phil, K7PEH
> phystad at mac.com
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:25:01 +0000 (UTC)
> From: David Satterwhite <satterwhited at yahoo.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX line future accesories
> Message-ID: <621930491.694443.1490909101361 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> I would have to agree with an internal 2m/440 module for the KX3. In my mind this is the only thing that keeps my KX3 from being my one and only radio for portable use. Unfortunately, I keep going back to my Ft817, instead of my KX3, because it does it all.
> Dave, KM6P
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:26:50 +0000
> From: Ken K6MR <k6mr at outlook.com>
> To: Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>, Elecraft Reflector
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
> Message-ID:
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> I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work lots of people with 1000+ W. I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work better on 160.
>
>
> I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here) "If you feel loud you are loud".
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup. Seamless.
>
> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
> watts.
>
> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>
> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
> gain, make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
> how often?
>
> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
> so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
> not having a qso.
>
> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich - N5ZC
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:29:15 -0700
> From: Rick WA6NHC <wa6nhc at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
> Message-ID: <8624d55a-d99e-4355-ee8f-9530c062585d at gmail.com>
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> In the tub or out?
>
> Rick
>
>
>> On 3/30/2017 1:47 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
>> Sparks NV USA
>> Washoe County DM09dn
>>
>>
>>> On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:32:01 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>
> To: Elecraft Email List <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
> Message-ID: <424272029.700532.1490909521807 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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>
> The?DB9-USB-D5-F cost about $15, so for about the price of a USB to RS-232 Cable you can put the USB interface right n the K2.
> If you decide in the future you want to go a different route you simply remove it and get the KIO2 from Elecraft.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 08:47:27 +1100
> From: Gerard Elijzen <vk2jng at icloud.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> Message-ID: <7AC5D5A1-546F-42EE-8776-B6098B05E2F5 at icloud.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi all,
>
> Would like to see the addition for (40m and 30m) of APRS and GPS for mobile use for the KX3 when 2m digipeaters are not reachable.
>
> Gerard VK2JNG
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:50:32 +0000
> From: Ken K6MR <k6mr at outlook.com>
> To: Bud Semon <bsemon at gmail.com>, "elecraft at mailman.qth.net"
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
> Message-ID:
> <BN3PR13MB08177B7643AF91C19D84E6449E340 at BN3PR13MB0817.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I use W6PQLs combiner/splitter pair for the RF paths. I use an Arduino to handle switching the band data from the two K3s, along with the keyline.
>
> I switch the pair between the radios using the Tx Focus line from a u2R as control, which drives 4 TopTen A/B switches to switch the combo between the radios.
>
> I also modified the KPAs to increase their gain a bit. NX1P has a good writeup about removing the pad in the amp and modifying the power sense circuit. The KPAs will work without modification, but I ran out of drive on the higher bands. Now getting 1000+ out on all bands is easy.
>
> So far no problems. I use my logging program and the MicroHam router program to insert some delay between activation and RF application. So far it's been pretty bullet proof.
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bud Semon <bsemon at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:32:07 PM
> To: Ken K6MR
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> How do you combine the 2 amps? I think that was KK9A's question also, so if you answered on the reflector, it would probably be appreciated.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Bud N7CW
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Ken K6MR <k6mr at outlook.com<mailto:k6mr at outlook.com>> wrote:
> I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work lots of people with 1000+ W. I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work better on 160.
>
>
> I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here) "If you feel loud you are loud".
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> on behalf of Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net<mailto:rthorne at rthorne.net>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup. Seamless.
>
> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
> watts.
>
> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>
> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
> gain, make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
> how often?
>
> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
> so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
> not having a qso.
>
> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich - N5ZC
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:00:53 -0700
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <ron at cobi.biz>
> To: "'Richard Thorne'" <rthorne at rthorne.net>, "'Elecraft Reflector'"
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
> Message-ID: <003c01d2a9a1$19fc9c60$4df5d520$@biz>
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>
> 2 dB might make a difference if you are only interested in having your call
> sign dug out of the noise for a contest or DXCC contact.
>
> Way back the early books from the 1930's that I read and the OT commercial
> operators from that era I knew said that under typical conditions found on
> the air, 6 dB was about the minimum change to hear a real difference in the
> signal while exchanging messages or other extended information. Those
> stations would not try a direct contact if the signals were "in the mud"
> opting instead for trying again at different time or getting a relay.
>
> In commercial operations we did not use the Ham RST system, but rather QSA 1
> through 5. 1 was a barely detected signal in the mud. 5 was a loud signal
> with perfect copy. I confess to doing about the same with Ham signals,
> choosing between at most five levels by ear for my report without reference
> to an S-meter.
>
> Personally, I've never gotten very excited about anything less than a 10 dB
> improvement, but the only DX I work are those calling me - usually for a rag
> chew - and I don't contest.
>
> And, for me, Ken's observation is quite right. If I get the bug to drop my
> Inverted L, rub some RF grease on the wire, neaten things up in general and
> restring it, I do think I am getting out better and stations seem to come
> back more quickly. Expectations are everything!
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
> K6MR
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:27 PM
> To: Richard Thorne; Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those
> questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work
> lots of people with 1000+ W. I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work
> better on 160.
>
>
> I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here)
> "If you feel loud you are loud".
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Richard
> Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup. Seamless.
>
> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
> watts.
>
> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>
> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain,
> make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?
>
> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so
> maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not
> having a qso.
>
> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich - N5ZC
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:02:45 +0200
> From: "Emory Schley" <silverlocks at gmx.com>
> To: Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
> Message-ID:
> <trinity-a4401c2e-5ff7-4d80-a311-d582634b458c-1490911365907 at 3capp-mailcom-bs16>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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>
> Let's see now, the antenna for 630 meters would be almost four times the length of one for 160? Doesn't sound like a "hiking" antenna to me, unless you're taking along a pack mule, maybe... ;-)
> ?
> Emory Schley
> N4LP
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:06:45 -0700
> From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> Message-ID:
> <r470Ps-10124i-6CF13D259A334A76B1FD11E888647A27 at Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
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>
> When my KX3 is fully set up for portable operation I have:
>
> Antenna
> RS232 <--> USB to P3
> SignaLInk to mic in
> phone out to splitter
> splitter to SignaLink
> splitter to headphones
> SignaLink to computer
> Power to KX3
> Power to P3
> IQ to P3
> RS232 <--> P3
>
> I have to swap plugs for the mic to use voice modes. (Plus muck
> with bias, vox, levels etc.) When I use CW I have to attack the
> paddle, which will break it transported attached to the KX3.
>
> (Did I forget anything?)
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>> On 3/30/17 at 11:57 AM, phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad) wrote:
>>
>> Wow, Seven cables!
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Frantz |"After all, if the conventional wisdom was
> working, the
> 408-356-8506 | rate of systems being compromised would be
> going down,
> www.pwpconsult.com | wouldn't it?" -- Marcus Ranum
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:06:46 -0700
> From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com>
> To: Scott McDonald <ka9p at aol.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
> Message-ID:
> <r470Ps-10124i-57E8C1C600ED4655A1D6BDE4D3BB4BDE at Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> The 2M option for the KX3 supports transmit at about 3W output.
> See: <http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3-2M%20FAQ.htm>
>
> Let me add, there are a lot of new hams with tech licenses. Many
> of them came to ham radio from an interest in community services
> ARES/RACES etc. They primarily use 2M and 70cm FM repeaters and
> simplex. It would be good for the hobby to have a radio which
> supported these FM uses and opened the possibility of other
> modes and bands. The Yaesu 8900 almost meets this requirement,
> except it only does FM. There is a very useful tech SSB subband
> on 10M which this radio just misses supporting.
>
> I'm sure that some of them would want a high quality, US built,
> radio that met their needs plus a little. Call it, "The gateway radio".
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 3/30/17 at 6:11 AM, elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Scott McDonald
> via Elecraft) wrote:
>
>> I realize the kx3 could be equipped to receive 2 meters now but
>> that's a lot of kit compared to an 817 just for 2 meter receive....
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Doug Millar <drzarkof56 at yahoo.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob
> Message-ID: <1130064735.7624814.1490912959227 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi,
> ??? Well, I might have done it. I like a little heavier knob on my radios. Ever since I had an HRO radio.
> ??? I took the KX2 knob and put 4 nuts in each of the four bins in the back of the knob. I took some modeling clay and forced it in to hold the nuts and to give more weight. I think that is just about perfect for weight and inertia. Comments?
> ?? Doug jEY
> ?
> drzarkof56 at yahoo.com
> 562 810 3989? cell/text
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 18:35:23 -0400
> From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" <pincon at erols.com>
> To: <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> In some cases a dB or so CAN make a difference. Otherwise, why bother to
> put a ?dB noise figure GaAsFET pre-amp at the antenna just to overcome 2dB
> of feedline loss?
>
> At the other extreme, if you are being received at 20dB over S-9 running a
> kilowatt, you'll still be S-5 at 100 milliwatts.
>
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: 'Richard Thorne' <rthorne at rthorne.net>; 'Elecraft Reflector'
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> 2 dB might make a difference if you are only interested in having your call
> sign dug out of the noise for a contest or DXCC contact.
>
> Way back the early books from the 1930's that I read and the OT commercial
> operators from that era I knew said that under typical conditions found on
> the air, 6 dB was about the minimum change to hear a real difference in the
> signal while exchanging messages or other extended information. Those
> stations would not try a direct contact if the signals were "in the mud"
> opting instead for trying again at different time or getting a relay.
>
> In commercial operations we did not use the Ham RST system, but rather QSA 1
> through 5. 1 was a barely detected signal in the mud. 5 was a loud signal
> with perfect copy. I confess to doing about the same with Ham signals,
> choosing between at most five levels by ear for my report without reference
> to an S-meter.
>
> Personally, I've never gotten very excited about anything less than a 10 dB
> improvement, but the only DX I work are those calling me - usually for a rag
> chew - and I don't contest.
>
> And, for me, Ken's observation is quite right. If I get the bug to drop my
> Inverted L, rub some RF grease on the wire, neaten things up in general and
> restring it, I do think I am getting out better and stations seem to come
> back more quickly. Expectations are everything!
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
> K6MR
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:27 PM
> To: Richard Thorne; Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> I'm running my two KPAs combined. Is there a difference? That's one of those
> questions that is tough to answer. I worked lots of people with 500W. I work
> lots of people with 1000+ W. I don't chase DXCC but things seem to work
> better on 160.
>
>
> I do feel louder. I think it was N6TR that said (probably mis-quoted here)
> "If you feel loud you are loud".
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Richard
> Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>
> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup. Seamless.
>
> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
> watts.
>
> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>
> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in gain,
> make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but how often?
>
> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160, so
> maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or not
> having a qso.
>
> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich - N5ZC
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:39:26 +0000
> From: Chris Tate - N6WM <ctate at ewnetinc.com>
> To: Doug Millar <drzarkof56 at yahoo.com>, Elecraft Reflector
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob
> Message-ID:
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>
> Good solution. Hope it holds up. The lack of knob weight on this most amazing little rig is the only genuine physical design gripe I can come up with. would be nice if it was a slightly heavier and rubberized grip.. pretty tough with such as small knob though and may be cost prohibitive. Your solution make lots of sense to bridge the gap. a push button encoder to add another route to menus would be another afterthought.
> ________________________________________
> From: Elecraft [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Doug Millar via Elecraft [elecraft at mailman.qth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:29 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob
>
> Hi,
> Well, I might have done it. I like a little heavier knob on my radios. Ever since I had an HRO radio.
> I took the KX2 knob and put 4 nuts in each of the four bins in the back of the knob. I took some modeling clay and forced it in to hold the nuts and to give more weight. I think that is just about perfect for weight and inertia. Comments?
> Doug jEY
>
> drzarkof56 at yahoo.com
> 562 810 3989 cell/text
>
>
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>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:45:25 -0800
> From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
> Message-ID: <201703302245.v2UMjQ9a013218 at mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> I use a converted (by me) 100w NDB as my amplifier after the K3 on
> 630m. The NDB is an aviation non-directional beacon that used to be
> common at airports and now are found surplus (if you look). I got
> mine for $40, fully operational, with built-in ac PS. It normally
> runs on a xtal LO which I gutted and drive with a simple coupling
> capacitor at 0.1mw (K3 run in TEST mode with output taken from
> transverter Tx out jack). I retained the tunable coil bandpass
> filter which drives a 2N2222 followed by two more transistor stages.
>
> But by removing audio transformers and low pass filters many 100w
> stereo amps will work at this frequency.
>
> Biggest challenge on this band is the antennas. Half wave at 472-KHz
> is over a thousand feet. The std inverted-L so popular for 160m is
> what I am using. Mine is 43-foot high by 122-foot long and
> multi-wire to lower Q. The base loading coil is 11 by 10 inch with
> 1/4-inch winding separation using No. 12 house wire (without
> insulation). Low noise receiving antennas are needed. Band performs
> best in winter when there is little lightening static.
>
> My 600m webpage is down but I show a lot of antenna info
> there. Guess I need to restore it. I achieve 4.15w ERP with 100w
> drive. Very inefficient ground.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:12:14 -0400 (EDT)
> From: donovanf at starpower.net
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
> Message-ID:
> <776121572.2375091.1490904734537.JavaMail.root at starpower.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
>
> The product we need is a companion 630M 100 watt amplifier for
> Lowfer enabled K3 transceivers. That would have a big impact on
> 630M activity The K3 receiver is fantastic on 630M
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
> dubususa at gmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:06:49 +0100
> From: David Anderson <gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "Colin Haig (VE3MSC)" <ve3msc at cogeco.ca>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mounting a KX3+PX3 ?
> Message-ID: <68608E85-91F0-4BC1-9053-7F67F90AA868 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Have a look at the Go Box made by KG5EIU, his Flickr stream shows how he did it.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/FoYs5W
>
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
>
>> On 30 Mar 2017, at 19:52, Colin Haig (VE3MSC) <ve3msc at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Any recommendations on how to mount a KX3+PX3 ? I want to try it out with
>> my microwave setup, and would like to mount them on flat board or aluminum
>> base, and was wondering what people have done for mounting brackets?
>>
>> Thanks in advance and 73,
>>
>> Colin VE3MSC
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>
> To: Doug Millar <drzarkof56 at yahoo.com>, Elecraft Reflector
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob
> Message-ID: <963431194.794426.1490916281817 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>
> Years ago I used lead shot and epoxy to sill in the voids on a knob to add weight.
>
> You could probably also use BBs instead of the Lead shot
>
>
>
> From: Doug Millar via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:55 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob
>
> Hi,
> ??? Well, I might have done it. I like a little heavier knob on my radios. Ever since I had an HRO radio.
> ??? I took the KX2 knob and put 4 nuts in each of the four bins in the back of the knob. I took some modeling clay and forced it in to hold the nuts and to give more weight. I think that is just about perfect for weight and inertia. Comments?
> ?? Doug jEY
> ?
> drzarkof56 at yahoo.com
> 562 810 3989? cell/text
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 18:31:37 -0500
> From: Jim Allen <jalleninvest at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
> Message-ID: <E6641D0A-C3AC-46E5-8DC7-79A9EE8F974D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Get the Elecraft KUSB, and don't worry about it.
>
> I bought one last year. When I got around to trying it, it was apparently dead. An e-mail to Elecraft had a new one en route that day.
>
> You might save a few bucks fiddling around with other brands, but why?
>
> 73 Jim Allen W6OGC
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 23:32:17 +0000
> From: Patrick Lynch <k7nfbmobile at msn.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 49
> Message-ID:
> <BN6PR18MB144115A0AB80F5911D521303F3340 at BN6PR18MB1441.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 2:05 PM, "elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Fwd: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Carl J?n Denbow)
>> 2. Amplifier (ab4iqkf4cxo)
>> 3. Mounting a KX3+PX3 ? (Colin Haig (VE3MSC))
>> 4. Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (john at kk9a.com)
>> 5. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Phil Hystad)
>> 6. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Phil Hystad)
>> 7. Future KX3/KX2 Accessories? (Dauer, Edward)
>> 8. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Phil Hystad)
>> 9. Fwd: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (sancho)
>> 10. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Richard Thorne)
>> 11. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Paul Bryan)
>> 12. http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm (Edward R Cole)
>> 13. FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Edward R Cole)
>> 14. Re: Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts? (Mel Farrer)
>> 15. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Harry Yingst)
>> 16. Re: FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Wayne Burdick)
>> 17. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (Harry Yingst)
>> 18. Re: [KX3] Future KX3/KX2 accessories? (LA8AW)
>> 19. Re: Future KX3/KX2 Accessories? [Thanks!] (Wayne Burdick)
>> 20. Improved KX2 knob (Emory Schley)
>> 21. Re: FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (donovanf at starpower.net)
>> 22. Re: USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 (Don Wilhelm)
>> 23. Re: Future KX3/KX2 accessories (Brian D. Comer)
>> 24. Re: FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Fred Jensen)
>> 25. Re: FCC R&O approves 630m ham band (Doug Smith)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:39:16 -0400
>> From: Carl J?n Denbow <n8vz at qth.com>
>> To: Elecraft Mail List <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <367763BF-133C-4AD7-95B8-3D11E31D532A at qth.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Forgot to send this to whole list.
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Carl J?n Denbow <n8vz at qth.com>
>>> Date: March 29, 2017 at 9:46:06 PM EDT
>>> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>>>
>>> That's easy, Wayne. I'd love to see an internal soundcard module for digital mode operation, like one can do with the K3s. 73 de Carl N8VZ
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ===========================
>>> Carl J?n Denbow, N8VZ
>>> 17 Coventry Lane
>>> Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
>>>
>>> carl at n8vz.com
>>> www.n8vz.com
>>> EM89wh
>>>
>>> IRLP 4533 Echolink 116070
>>>
>>> PSK and JT65 Forever!
>>> ===========================
>>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and summits. This is what the KX-line is all about.
>>>>
>>>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :) What future accessories, antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
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>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:42:00 -0500
>> From: "ab4iqkf4cxo" <ab4iq at comcast.net>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Amplifier
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I personally would like to have a solid state amp capable of 1500 watts. I
>> have an Alpha 9500 and Palstar HF-Auto that works just fine but I enjoy the
>> way my KPA500/KAT500 along with the K3S works seamlessly with one another.
>> Surely a solid state amp and tuner could replace my present setup with less
>> real estate. I took the time to train my KAT500 with my antennas and
>> really works nice. With my other setup the Palstar has to do its thing with
>> RF applied and the alpha has to do its thing. The Alpha takes three minutes
>> to warm up and the KPA500 instantaneous and has 6 meters as well where the
>> Alpha does not. I'm not degrading the Alpha and Palstar at all because they
>> do work and quite well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed.. AB4IQ
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:52:28 -0400
>> From: "Colin Haig \(VE3MSC\)" <ve3msc at cogeco.ca>
>> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Mounting a KX3+PX3 ?
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Any recommendations on how to mount a KX3+PX3 ? I want to try it out with
>> my microwave setup, and would like to mount them on flat board or aluminum
>> base, and was wondering what people have done for mounting brackets?
>>
>> Thanks in advance and 73,
>>
>> Colin VE3MSC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:53:58 -0400
>> From: "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>> Message-ID: <e729fbc4175a5f1ca763c554811c8a10.squirrel at www11.qth.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>>
>> There are various circumstances and 1.76dB may or may not be important.
>> Much depends on your interests and goals.
>>
>> I am curious how you combined two KPA500's. The commercial combiners that
>> I have seen are extremely expensive and are not set up for the KPA500
>> automatic band switching. Perhaps an Elecraft KPA combiner would would be
>> a good option?
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>> from: Richard Thorne rthorne at rthorne.net
>> Thu Mar 30 12:31:48 EDT 2017
>>
>> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup. Seamless.
>>
>> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
>> watts.
>>
>> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
>> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>>
>> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
>> gain, make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
>> how often?
>>
>> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
>> so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
>> not having a qso.
>>
>> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rich - N5ZC
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:57:40 -0700
>> From: Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com>
>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <F86B550B-02C0-4A65-A8EC-BF6294471619 at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Wow, Seven cables!
>>
>> I am wondering if I even have seven cables on my K3+P3+KPA500+KAT500.
>>
>> Obviously not a rig you want to take into the field for portable ops which is the primary reason for my KX2 (and my former KX3).
>>
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don?t use the KEY jack and don?t have the 2m transverter.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
>>> Walter Underwood
>>> CM87wj
>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Phil, Me too. I already do this. My grab and go KX2 does it all for me. The KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my shack.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Bill
>>>> K9YEQ
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
>>>> To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX <n3jix at palink.net>
>>>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to understand this ?
>>>>
>>>> I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3. What other connections are there?
>>>>
>>>> My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection. Only connector is antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).
>>>>
>>>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX <n3jix at palink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll second this one too!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano <adx at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to
>>>>>> the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin
>>>>>> the antenna so make it two connections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Anthony WR3T
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Anthony DeStefano
>>>>>> adx at fastmail.fm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
>>>>>>> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
>>>>>> especially the
>>>>>>>> KX2 since it's new.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:00:57 -0700
>> From: Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com>
>> To: Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com>
>> Cc: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>,
>> "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <3386FFE8-07DF-4D13-8756-B67848EC2BFC at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I have never used a mic with my KX2 although the MH2 came free with it. I used the mic on my KX3 (sold a month ago) once merely to see if it worked. Otherwise, CW is my only mode for the portable ops and I have never used them with an amplifier. Barefoot is fine with me so far.
>>
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Walt, I have 8 into the KX3. I really meant the KX2 to which I have one cable plugged into it: the antenna. If I used the KX3 in place of the KX2 I would have only two cables, the mic and the antenna. However, I have temporarily used the KX3 in place of my K3S, an I use the KXPA100 etc., in the shack. The back of my K3S has 11 external connections, but I don't grab and go with it. :-)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bill
>>> K9YEQ
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter Underwood
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:11 PM
>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>>>
>>> I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don?t use the KEY jack and don?t have the 2m transverter.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
>>> Walter Underwood
>>> CM87wj
>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Bill Johnson <k9yeq at live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Phil, Me too. I already do this. My grab and go KX2 does it all for me. The KX3, I have to take a mic too, but both of these are grab and go in my shack.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Bill
>>>> K9YEQ
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>>>> Phil Hystad
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:44 AM
>>>> To: Bill Barnes, N3JIX <n3jix at palink.net>
>>>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to understand this ?
>>>>
>>>> I do that now with my KX2 and formerly with my KX3. What other connections are there?
>>>>
>>>> My configuration is KX2+built-in Paddles+antenna connection. Only connector is antenna (usually, sometimes I run the KX2 on external power).
>>>>
>>>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX <n3jix at palink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll second this one too!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM Anthony DeStefano <adx at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would pre-order a KXx device that allowed you go from the field to
>>>>>> the desk/computer via a single connection. Well and having to plugin
>>>>>> the antenna so make it two connections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Anthony WR3T
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Anthony DeStefano
>>>>>> adx at fastmail.fm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017, at 08:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
>>>>>>> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:03 AM Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
>>>>>> especially the
>>>>>>>> KX2 since it's new.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:02:19 +0000
>> From: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
>> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 Accessories?
>> Message-ID: <F1FF7DDC-3521-43F1-9769-58050A0E88EC at law.du.edu>
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>>
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>> Bluetooth or the equivalent for whatever can work that way, and something like the yesteryear computer ?docking stations? for all the rest, maybe as the front end of a DC power supply.
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:11:09 -0700
>> From: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <1B550922-0785-49A4-B671-41254978A9A1 at wunderwood.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I counted. I have seven cables to plug/unplug from my KX3. I don?t use the KEY jack and don?t have the 2m transverter.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:06:20 -0700
>> From: Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com>
>> To: Steve Sergeant <stevesgt at effable.com>
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <0F793D4D-3E93-4A59-9CCC-A11FDCC0B96E at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I have the digital recorder option on my K3. But, when I use my KX2 (or, the KX3 I used to own)
>> they are usually in the field sometimes using a picnic bench if nearby or otherwise the tailgate of
>> my pickup truck with the portable antenna somewhere not far away. Can?t imagine in that
>> scenario ever doing anything with a sound card especially when all I do is CW. Certainly I never
>> have a computer with me. Well, I will often have my iPad but if that is with me I am reading a
>> novel inbetween QSOs.
>>
>> After all, I sort of that that was the design goal of something like the KX2 and even the KX3,
>> minimal, small form-factor, portable operations or even hiking with it (which is something I
>> do not usually do).
>>
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Steve Sergeant <stevesgt at effable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hope we can be more creative than that!
>>>
>>> How about recording, playback, and automation features, some of which
>>> have not yet been imagined. How abut signal processing operations that
>>> are beyond the DSP capability in the radio? How about some
>>> not-so-distant future when spoken language translation might be possible?
>>>
>>> A sound-card type interface within the unit opens up whole new doors of
>>> possibilities.
>>>
>>>> On 3/30/17 9:53 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>>>> Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data ops (RTTY, PSK, etc.)?
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT <KX3.1 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Me too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/30/2017 5:26 AM, Bill Barnes, N3JIX wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to second this one: USB audio board for the kx3.
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:07:55 -0400
>> From: sancho <sancho at frawg.org>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <EC9F0B95-2D31-40EE-98BF-1DE37E157607 at frawg.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Sometimes I don't read the fine print... Sorry Bill, was to go to the list.
>> Jack KD4IZ
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: sancho <sancho at frawg.org>
>>> Date: March 30, 2017 at 14:12:26 EDT
>>> To: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>>>
>>> Wayne,
>>>
>>> I have had a similar list of features to posted by Bill Frantz below. I would add that the base that contains them should be designed to:
>>> 1) have wider adjustable viewing angle than the stock prop legs
>>> 2) have the ability to interface a matching base for the PX3 with one cable
>>> 3) provide single cable plus coax attachment for the KXPA100.
>>> 4) add BT for headset (maybe switchable or dual for data?) similar to WMR Rigblaster Blue
>>>
>>> This would get the rats nest off the desk and into the "Go Kit" and knock down sources of noise and RFI.
>>>
>>> Jack Spitznagel KD4IZ
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 23:50, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <SNIP>
>>>> Make switching between Data/Voice/CW easy - handle VOX, Mic bias & levels.
>>>>
>>>> Connect to computer/phones/mic to the radio without switching plugs.
>>>>
>>>> Contain "sound card"? + hub + RS232 to USB --> one cable computer connection ala K3S
>>>>
>>>> Run headphones/speaker + digital at the same time
>>>>
>>>> Amp for stereo speakers
>>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:24:55 -0500
>> From: Richard Thorne <rthorne at rthorne.net>
>> To: "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>> Message-ID: <539ccf4f-9836-534e-bee2-495af187ebb7 at rthorne.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I don't combine my KPA-500's. I use them in an SO2R setup.
>>
>> Rich - N5ZC
>>
>>> On 3/30/2017 1:53 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
>>> There are various circumstances and 1.76dB may or may not be important.
>>> Much depends on your interests and goals.
>>>
>>> I am curious how you combined two KPA500's. The commercial combiners that
>>> I have seen are extremely expensive and are not set up for the KPA500
>>> automatic band switching. Perhaps an Elecraft KPA combiner would would be
>>> a good option?
>>>
>>> John KK9A
>>>
>>>
>>> from: Richard Thorne rthorne at rthorne.net
>>> Thu Mar 30 12:31:48 EDT 2017
>>>
>>> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup. Seamless.
>>>
>>> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
>>> watts.
>>>
>>> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
>>> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>>>
>>> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
>>> gain, make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
>>> how often?
>>>
>>> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
>>> so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
>>> not having a qso.
>>>
>>> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rich - N5ZC
>>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:27:03 -0700
>> From: Paul Bryan <pbryan at anode.ca>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <1490902023.12596.10.camel at anode.ca>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> As for the calls for Bluetooth, it's not clear who wants it for
>> wireless mic/headset, and who wants it for digital comms.
>>
>> For digital comms, I think the problem will be audio codecs adding
>> artifacts. The A2DP[1] mandatory codecs are all lossy, and are targeted
>> for human audio perception, not digital communications. AFAIK, PCM
>> (uncompressed audio) isn't supported in A2DP because it uses too much
>> bandwidth.
>>
>> Paul, VA7CDB
>>
>> [1] https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/DownloadDoc.ashx?doc_id=2
>> 60859&vId=290074
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:35:21 -0700
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, KX3 at yahoogroups.com
>> <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
>> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us
>> want to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails,
>> beaches, and summits. This is what the KX-line is all about.?
>>
>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)??What future
>> accessories, antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line??
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:28:43 -0800
>> From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm
>> Message-ID: <201703301928.v2UJShES007421 at mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> USB ought to provide more than just audio interface. The USB on the
>> K3s provides all the RS232 functions. I mainly use it for digital sw
>> run on the computer, but I also have an utility that controls the K3
>> VFO and keys PTT. I can use it for panadapter use, as well. I use
>> the FDTI USB/RS232 cable from Elecraft.
>>
>> Comment on the original topic, It seems a cable interface/switch box
>> is a perfect after-market item for someone to make for the
>> KX2/KX3. A dual-band VHF/UHF transverter with external battery box
>> to clamp-on behind either radio is a nice concept, but the radios are
>> not capable of duplex operation, so this still falls short of what
>> the satellite community desires. The satellite population is just
>> too small for a decent market for a new all-mode duplex dual-band
>> radio. Also SDR's are making big inroads into this market so look
>> for this to come out of that industry. In fact one can do that with
>> a KX3-2M adding a UHF SDR.
>>
>> Long-range development of ham-sats will be moving to mw and utilize
>> digital modes, only (meaning DV as included). FEC digital is the
>> direction of communications tech. Its already in your smart phone.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> ------------------
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:53:57 -0700
>> From: Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com>
>> To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <KX3.1 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <968823C4-8C71-4A5C-9F7B-173066025AAA at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Is the only purpose of USB audio to interface to a computer for data
>> ops (RTTY, PSK, etc.)?
>>
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>> dubususa at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:37:06 -0800
>> From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
>> Message-ID: <201703301937.v2UJb6DX016724 at mail41c28.carrierzone.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> I have the FCC document linked from my website; http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm
>> Look for 600m - FCC announcement
>>
>> Dated March 29, 2017 the FCC approves ham radio use at 472-479 KHz
>> (630m) though not quite final for ham use.
>> 5w EIRP approved which is just about what one gets with reasonable
>> antenna fed with 100w. Hams will have to register with a power
>> utility agency to ensure no mutual interference with PLC usage by
>> utilities. Ham radio will be a secondary user.
>>
>> I expect ARRL to make a similar announcement, soon.
>>
>> I am part of the ARRL Experimental Group who have been licensed as
>> experimental stations for about four years on 600/630m.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>> dubususa at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:38:54 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Mel Farrer <farrerfolks at yahoo.com>
>> To: "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com>, "elecraft at mailman.qth.net"
>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>> Message-ID: <1892457259.15067389.1490902734171 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Frankly going to the higher power is really a engineering what if and looking at the new higher power devices rather than doubling up the 500.? IMHO
>> Mel, K6KBE
>>
>>
>> From: "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:13 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Amp Thoughts: 1000 watts or 1500 watts?
>>
>> There are various circumstances and 1.76dB may or may not be important.
>> Much depends on your interests and goals.
>>
>> I am curious how you combined two KPA500's. The commercial combiners that
>> I have seen are extremely expensive and are not set up for the KPA500
>> automatic band switching. Perhaps an Elecraft KPA combiner would would be
>> a good option?
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>> from: Richard Thorne rthorne at rthorne.net
>> Thu Mar 30 12:31:48 EDT 2017
>>
>> I have a pair of KPA-500's for an SO2R setup.? Seamless.
>>
>> I've been running the numbers on the advantage of going to 1000 or 1500
>> watts.
>>
>> 500 watts to 1000 watts - 3.01 db gain
>> 500 watts to 1500 watts - 4.77 db gain
>>
>> Will the increase from 1000 to 1500 watts or a 1.76 db increase in
>> gain,? make a difference? I'm sure it would in some circumstances, but
>> how often?
>>
>> I'm just starting on my quest to increase my dxcc totals on 80 and 160,
>> so maybe that 1.76 db would be the difference between a having a qso or
>> not having a qso.
>>
>> What are the thoughts of the serious low band guys?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rich - N5ZC
>>
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>> Message: 15
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:43:19 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>
>> To: "donwilh at embarqmail.com" <donwilh at embarqmail.com>, Paul Huff
>> <paul142857 at gmail.com>, Elecraft Email List
>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
>> Message-ID: <763650307.606754.1490902999051 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>
>> Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F
>> USB straight to the K2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:47:24 -0700
>> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> To: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
>> Message-ID: <CED5F19D-D7B6-4B76-AD66-AF62ADC96D07 at elecraft.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the FCC document linked from my website; http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm
>>> Look for 600m - FCC announcement
>>>
>>> Dated March 29, 2017 the FCC approves ham radio use at 472-479 KHz (630m) though not quite final for ham use.
>>> 5w EIRP approved which is just about what one gets with reasonable antenna fed with 100w. Hams will have to register with a power utility agency to ensure no mutual interference with PLC usage by utilities. Ham radio will be a secondary user.
>>>
>>> I expect ARRL to make a similar announcement, soon.
>>>
>>> I am part of the ARRL Experimental Group who have been licensed as experimental stations for about four years on 600/630m.
>>>
>>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>>> dubususa at gmail.com
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>
>> To: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>, Elecraft Reflector
>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <315883049.1474684.1490903253365 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Serial is actually used quite a bit in other fields
>> It just works and is pretty universal
>>
>> From: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>>
>> Thanks for confirming my guess.
>>
>> I remain amazed that serial connections are used so much in amateur radio. Outside of amateur radio, I?ve used RS-232 connections once since the early 1990?s. In 2002, I connected a console to an HP-UX to rebuild the kernel and get it on our net. I threw away all my RS-232 connector building stuff a decade ago. Then I got into amateur radio.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:48:37 +0200
>> From: LA8AW <oddyen at gmail.com>
>> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>,
>> "KX3 at yahoogroups.com" <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAJbn4zj76G5n+LimXDuFAMcFk8dER3fDorcUD_U7i5exSq74XQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> The future 'accessories' I would like to see, is an application for
>> configuration of all the menu settings for K3/K3s/KX3/KX2/Kxxx.
>>
>> Think of how easy it wold be e.g. to change all the AGC configuration - if
>> it could be done with the click of the mouse.
>>
>> 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____________________
>>
>> 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil
>> _____________________
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] <
>> KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The weather's been great in the Bay Area lately. That always makes us want
>>> to escape the lab for microDXpeditions to local parks, trails, beaches, and
>>> summits. This is what the KX-line is all about.
>>>
>>> Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :) What future accessories,
>>> antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:02:13 -0700
>> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>,
>> "KX3 at yahoogroups.com" <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 Accessories? [Thanks!]
>> Message-ID: <BCD1A7B9-A689-4DE7-8AA3-5374347B60ED at elecraft.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Thanks for all the great input, everyone. Too many emails to respond to individually.
>>
>> In the short term, we'll be making some improvements to both KX2 and KX3 firmware. Near the top of the list (other than bug fixes) will be a new menu entry that lets you choose one of two sets of ATU tuning data. As several people pointed out, it would be convenient to preserve your home QTH antenna tuning data when going out in the field.
>>
>> Stay tuned for future updates.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:05:45 +0200
>> From: "Emory Schley" <silverlocks at gmx.com>
>> To: Elecraft <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Improved KX2 knob
>> Message-ID:
>> <trinity-ad6fa6bb-5238-4015-8572-dca9de599c2a-1490904345377 at 3capp-mailcom-bs02>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>
>> I stretched out an O-ring a bit and managed to slip it over the tuning knob on my KX2. It now sits about 1/16th of an inch down from the top face of the knob, and it has greatly enhanced my ability to manually scan through the frequencies. I just put the tip of my right index finger at the side of the knob so that I'm touching both the O-ring and the upper edge of the knob, and that allows me to scoot merrily through the frequencies. The O-ring is black so it blends well with the rig and is barely noticable.
>> ?
>> Emory Schley
>> N4LP
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:12:14 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: donovanf at starpower.net
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
>> Message-ID:
>> <776121572.2375091.1490904734537.JavaMail.root at starpower.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>>
>> The product we need is a companion 630M 100 watt amplifier for
>> Lowfer enabled K3 transceivers. That would have a big impact on
>> 630M activity The K3 receiver is fantastic on 630M
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Wayne Burdick" <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> To: "Edward R Cole" <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
>> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:47:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
>>
>> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the FCC document linked from my website; http://www.kl7uw.com/home.htm
>>> Look for 600m - FCC announcement
>>>
>>> Dated March 29, 2017 the FCC approves ham radio use at 472-479 KHz (630m) though not quite final for ham use.
>>> 5w EIRP approved which is just about what one gets with reasonable antenna fed with 100w. Hams will have to register with a power utility agency to ensure no mutual interference with PLC usage by utilities. Ham radio will be a secondary user.
>>>
>>> I expect ARRL to make a similar announcement, soon.
>>>
>>> I am part of the ARRL Experimental Group who have been licensed as experimental stations for about four years on 600/630m.
>>>
>>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>>> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>>> dubususa at gmail.com
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>> Message: 22
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:30:25 -0400
>> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
>> To: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>, Elecraft Email List
>> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2
>> Message-ID: <696b6e45-e671-41c0-8fea-0ac21f5fb47a at embarqmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Harry,
>>
>> OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details:
>> You will have some problems to solve if using that device.
>>
>> First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V)
>> instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need
>> some more logic circuits to make it work.
>>
>> 2nd, the KIO2 provides internal K2 signals needed for Elecraft
>> accessories like the KAT100, KRC2, XVseries Transverters. If you ever
>> want to add any of those accessories, you will be back "where you started".
>>
>> 3rd, if you ever add the KPA100, you will have to give up all your work.
>> Although that device will mount on the KPA100 board, the levels and
>> polarity are not right AND it contains ALL the RS-232 signal lines, not
>> just TXD and RXD and Signal Ground. You would have to make extensive
>> modifications to the KPA100 board to make it work - and you still do not
>> have the internal K2 signal lines to support the external Elecraft
>> accessory boxes.
>>
>> Simple "solutions" are often complex. It is easier to use an external
>> USB to serial adapter IMHO.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 3/30/2017 3:43 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
>>>
>>> Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F
>>>
>>> USB straight to the K2
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:41:00 -0700
>> From: "Brian D. Comer" <brian at kf6c.com>
>> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories
>> Message-ID: <000001d2a995$f16d7770$d4486650$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> As some additional insight into the care needed when working with some of
>> the most popular USB interfaces.
>>
>> I have recently been working on understanding the lack of sensitivity in a
>> 900 MHz ISM device. This device is controlled by an FTDI245RQ USB interface.
>> The clock for this device can be an internal 12 MHz oscillator or a 24 MHz
>> external oscillator. The internal oscillator has very poor phase noise and
>> its 76th harmonic, present on the USB data lines, is strong enough to
>> de-sense a 900 MHz RX over a 7 MHz wide band. The DE0-Nano FPGA development
>> board which has a similar USB controller but with an external 24 MHz clock
>> also radiates significant energy on the 38th harmonic of its clock.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:12:21 -0700
>> From: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?
>> Message-ID: <3FC92C0E-0D09-4B18-803D-DD475B108EF0 at wunderwood.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Thanks for confirming my guess.
>>
>> I remain amazed that serial connections are used so much in amateur radio.
>> Outside of amateur radio, I?ve used RS-232 connections once since the early
>> 1990?s. In 2002, I connected a console to an HP-UX to rebuild the kernel and
>> get it on our net. I threw away all my RS-232 connector building stuff a
>> decade ago. Then I got into amateur radio.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Matt Zilmer <mattz at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Walter,
>>>
>>> In the K3S, we could move the KIO3B digital electronics to the upper
>> section of the main board, far away from the RF board. The main board is
>> also a multi-layer type, so we could sandwich most of the noisy digital
>> signals between signal ground planes, shielding them pretty effectively.
>> This solved the problem of digital noise getting into the K3S rx. In the KX
>> radios, digital noise would be in close proximity RF boards, so that
>> opportunity is not available to us.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> matt W6NIA
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3/30/2017 7:58 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>>>> That was my single complaint with the KX3, even before I bought mine. My
>> current setup is a rats nest of wires.
>>>>
>>>> On this list, five years ago, Elecraft said that the USB chips were too
>> noisy to be inside the radio. I presume they found a way to deal with that
>> for the K3S, but they have more room to work with there.
>>>>
>>>> wunder
>>>> Walter Underwood
>>>> wunder at wunderwood.org
>>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:03 AM, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> USB Audio. Should have been in the radio from the beginning,
>>>>> especially the
>>>>> KX2 since it's new.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Karl DK5LP <dk5lp at online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My greatest wish:
>>>>>> A schematic for the KXPA100/KXKAT100.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vy 73 de
>>>>>> Karl-Heinz, DK5LP / AK5LP
>>>>>>
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>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:47:42 -0700
>> From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
>> Message-ID: <d292c636-b2c3-3520-34b4-e8057eb107a0 at foothill.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>> How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
>> Sparks NV USA
>> Washoe County DM09dn
>>
>>
>>> On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:00:40 -0600
>> From: Doug Smith <doug at w7kf.com>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC R&O approves 630m ham band
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>> Oh boy, here we go again with a KW amp!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Doug, W7KF
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 14:47, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> How many watts into a rubber duck for 5 W EIRP?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV USA
>>> Washoe County DM09dn
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3/30/2017 12:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>> Working on a 472 kHz HT as we speak :)
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>
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